Amber Guyger ordered to pay Botham Jean's family more than $98M in damages in civil case
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CrimsonAllah@reddit
Yeah Good luck on that
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
It's so she doesn't profit off of it.
Now if she tries to make a career of it, Kyle Rottenhouse style, the family can take some of that.
chaoticnipple@reddit
Pretty sure Texas has a "Son of Sam Law" to prevent her profiting in the first place. But on the other hand, there's a non-trivial chance Abbot or some future governor will pardon her, and she'll end up a right-wing celebrity. :-p
Kazaganthis@reddit
Oh we still pretending Kyle is the bad guy? Even after the court case, FBI drone, and everything else exonerated him?
bshaddo@reddit
“Legally not guilty” and “didn’t do anything wrong” aren’t the same thing.
Kazaganthis@reddit
Im glad then that he's both.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
🥾👅
pirate40plus@reddit
Except Rittenhouse didn’t break the law and defended himself from a couple of idiots in a riot.
Launchpad903@reddit
Going to look for trouble and finding it isnt exactly protecting yourself
pirate40plus@reddit
Thats why he was carrying a med kit and offering to help people
sector9junkie@reddit
And also a f***ing rifle, was he gonna bandage them up with that?
pirate40plus@reddit
It was a riot! Rifle seems reasonable
zma924@reddit
Don’t bother. Reddit has made up its mind. If you boil it down to “he went to a riot with a rifle looking for trouble”, you didn’t actually care to look into the context of what he was doing there. As you said, he was offering aide and only used his rifle when he was blatantly attacked and cornered by people. Literally everyone he shot wouldn’t have been shot if they didn’t think that attacking a guy with a rifle was a good idea. It’s actually super impressive that, in the chaos of everything that was happening, he ONLY hit people who were actively a threat to him. But Reddit loves to paint him as some bloodthirsty vigilante who was hoping to get to shoot someone that night.
sector9junkie@reddit
It’s not impressive it is sheer dumb luck no one else was hit. And the reason people boil it down to that, is because that’s what it is. The context you describe is disingenuous in rittenhouses part. If he wanted to help people who got hurt, walking through the riot amidst people he wasn’t associated, with a weapon like that is antagonistic. No one woulda fucked with him if he was just carrying a med bag and rendering aid
ChadWestPaints@reddit
So youre taking the "it was her fault, just look what she was wearing" path. Interesting choice.
What makes you think that?
sector9junkie@reddit
That’s a false equivalence. Clothing is not the same as a tool for killing and impose different connotations to people in an already escalated situation. There’s no reason to think firing a weapon in a crowded area, when you are focused on targets only in your immediate reach, and not hit anyone just outside your focus, is fortune. His ability to handle a weapon competently is irrelevant.
sector9junkie@reddit
Is Anything but fortune*
Psycle_Sammy@reddit
You call it looking for trouble, the law calls it being where you have the same legal right as anyone else to be. Deal with it.
Launchpad903@reddit
Boot licker
ChadWestPaints@reddit
Youre the one taking the side of the state, the cops, the DA and ADA, and the judge and you call other people bootlickers?
Thats weapons grade projection.
Psycle_Sammy@reddit
Sure thing. Keep allowing the illegal actions of others to dictate your freedom of movement, simp.
Launchpad903@reddit
No one doing illegal things has ever dicated my freedom Nice try though
Psycle_Sammy@reddit
No, you just heavily implied that Rittenhouse was somewhere “looking for trouble” and that he shouldn’t have been, instead of having just as much right to be where he was as the rioters who attacked him before he defended himself.
ngyeunjally@reddit
The court of Wisconsin disagreed.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Stop yapping
pirate40plus@reddit
He was acquitted in a criminal case and prevailed in 3 civil suits.
TchoupedNScrewed@reddit
Hot take: I don’t need the legal system to tell me he’s a POS with a busted moral compass
ngyeunjally@reddit
Hot take. Your rejection of the legal system tells us that about you. You probably deny elections too.
TchoupedNScrewed@reddit
What? Are you saying I’m a right winger? I’m a leftist. The justice system doesn’t decide what is and isn’t moral. Plenty of immoral actions are completely legal.
ngyeunjally@reddit
I see. your values seem to have you believing self defense is wrong. I imagine with values like that it would indeed be very hard to find someone you feel is representative of those values.
TchoupedNScrewed@reddit
You’re shadowboxing, bud.
ngyeunjally@reddit
You seem upset.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
So was OJ
ngyeunjally@reddit
Oj was obviously framed.
pirate40plus@reddit
Nope, OJ was acquitted in a criminal trial and found responsible in the civil trial. There was only 1 civil trial for him.
Chreiol@reddit
I’m curious what the relation is to Rittenhouse? Surely there isn’t a single aspect of this case that anyone would want to hitch themselves to, right? I hope at not at least.
alnelon@reddit
They’re both white and some people’s prejudice assumes that all white people support all white people no matter what.
Obviously that’s not true but racism never really leans too much on reality.
Wtfareyoutalkinabt@reddit
Yeah stop pretending you know damn well conservative Republicans love a white person killing a black person and will happily go fund me. There are many examples.
WigglingWeiner99@reddit
Name one black person Rittenhouse shot or killed.
PineappleFit317@reddit
There weren’t any black people, but there was a serial child molester, a domestic abuser and kidnapper, and a habitual petty criminal.
noncongruent@reddit
Yep, and Rittenhouse knew all of that when he shot those three people. It's why he went, armed with a semiauto rifle and several magazines of ammunition.
ChadWestPaints@reddit
Nahh he just knew some psychos were trying to hurt him and, once his attempts to deescalate/disengage failed, that he needed to defend himself.
It was only later that we all found out the shocking coincidence that the grown men who decided to chase down and try to assault/murder a minor unprovoked in public also turned out to not be very good people.
noncongruent@reddit
Not only did Rittenhouse know the criminal records of the people he shot, the people he shot also knew he was a minor. Amazing.
ChadWestPaints@reddit
Youre right, sorry:
Better?
noncongruent@reddit
From that distance, at night, Kyle looked like a full grown male, especially since he was carrying an assault-style weapon which no reasonable person would associate with a child. All I know is that Rittenhouse has never shown any remorse for having killed two people and maimed a third, so as far as I'm concerned he's a violent sociopath with a taste for blood, which makes him extremely dangerous. He certainly has his fans, people that, like him, don't really place any value on human life and would love to find themselves in the position of being able to kill other humans with impunity.
ChadWestPaints@reddit
This is such a bizarre point to harp on. They could've thought Rittenhouse was a minor or just a young man or a full adult or a grandpa or fuckin Buddha for all it matters - the point is that they chased down and tried to assault/murder a person unprovoked in public, and thats not okay.
First, none of us has any idea what his actual reaction is. Maybe behind closed doors he's cackling and plotting to kill again, or maybe he sobs himself to sleep every night, overwhelmed with regret, or anything in between.
Second, Rittenhouse has very publicly and famously shown remorse and emotional distress for what happened, and the near universal left wing response to this was mockery. "Cried like a little bitch" being the most popular analysis.
Third, its not clear how much one should have remorse for defending oneself from unprovoked attacks by psychos.
Fourth, that all aside, your point is still a non sequitur. To take an extreme example, prisoners in the concentration camps sometimes killed guards to escape. But they needed to in self defense, in order to survive, so not showing remorse wouldn't mean they're dangerous, bloodthirsty psychos. Itd just mean they did what had to be done to protect themselves. Rittenhouse’s case is obviously much less extreme.
ngyeunjally@reddit
People still think rittenhouse killed black people lmao.
vayaconburgers@reddit
That's already illegal. It's extremely unlikely that anyone will ever be able to collect on this, unless for some weird reason, Amber does decide to make a book or something all the money would go towards the judgment. So now, she is basically double blocked from profiting off telling her story. The laws as the exist prohibit her from profiting off talking about her crime and would require that those profits go to the victim. Now the judgment is just like a second wall. More likely than not, Amber would just like to serve her sentence, get out and live a pretty quite life. Any real financial "justice" for the victims probably is going to come from the developer of the apartments. If I recall right the City has already settled with his family.
frenchkids@reddit
I don't give a rat's ass what Amber wants.
FirebunnyLP@reddit
Where does the developer of the apartments fall into any of this? Genuinely curious.
YourPenixWright@reddit
I can't find anything on the outcome of that trial but theres an article when they filed the lawsuit of the apartments saying that the locks on the door were faulty. That's why Amber Guyger was able to get in the apartment in the first place.
noncongruent@reddit
I heard that DPD physically took the door from the apartment to examine the lock mechanism. I never heard what the results were of that analysis. The doors themselves meet the fire code requirements of being self-closing and auto-locking, using the same kind of card access lock that hotels use. That was an important element of the case because she claimed his door was unlocked and thus she was able to enter without having his specific door key to unlock the door with.
vayaconburgers@reddit
Yes
monolith_blue@reddit
I believe it was the previously reported faulty door locks.
nomnomnompizza@reddit
Genuinely curious what are the laws around this? Had no idea that was even a thing.
swinglinepilot@reddit
Generally refers to a Son of Sam law, the first of which was passed in NYS and named after a serial killer operating within NYC. That serial killer didn't actually try to do anything to profit from his murders, it was the speculation that he might that led to the law
garrettgravley@reddit
Son of Sam laws are considerably limited - the Supreme Court declared NY’s unconstitutional in Simon & Schuster v. New York State Crime Victims Board.
That case involved the book Wiseguys, which was the source material for that movie Goodfellas.
ihaterunning2@reddit
So I thought most of these laws only pertained to people still in prison. Basically no one can profit off their crimes while still in prison.
But I clicked the wiki link and NY’s and California’s Son of Sam laws were actually overturned by SCOTUS, citing a violation of free speech. New laws were written that requires any criminal that receives $10K or more for the victim’s family to be notified and allow time to sue civilly so they can recoup those funds.
NeilZod@reddit
Has the family sued the developer?
FIalt619@reddit
She could totally market herself as “That hot Trumpy bitch who the libs sent to jail” if she wanted to.
SomethingHasGotToGiv@reddit
Hot??
FIalt619@reddit
Compared to Rittenhousr
earthworm_fan@reddit
It's just to prevent her from doing a book or documentary or selling rights in some other way
socraticrex@reddit
They got a judgement but they’ll never get it. Hollow victory.
NoReplyBot@reddit
Yes we all know that. The rest of her life is fucked. And if she tries to go get a book deal, talk at some maga rally, then the family will get that money.
The family isn’t at home waiting for a $98m check.
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
Why would she be invited to a trump rally?
Ill-Recognition8666@reddit
ummmm Kyle Rittenhouse…
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
Her incident has nothing to do with politics
Ill-Recognition8666@reddit
that won’t stop them from adopting as their own though 😂😂😂 or her leaning that way thinking she can make a quick buck!
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
That’s a quaint fantasy
Ill-Recognition8666@reddit
no that’s how conservatives move.
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
You need to get out more
Ill-Recognition8666@reddit
i’m out now!!! At basketball tourney waiting for the next game to start!!!!
MisterSumone@reddit
You're being down voted because they have no legitimate answer to your question because it's a idiotic suggestion that she would be speaking at a maga rally in the first place.
They're still upset that the majority of Americans wanted Trump as their president.
I wasn't one of them, but I'm not upset about it either.
quaestor44@reddit
???
whriskeybizness@reddit
I mean they have claim to basically every dollar she makes for the rest of her life.
She may get out of jail but she’ll never be financially free again.
MagicJohnsons69@reddit
Debt from lawsuits can’t be garnished in Texas. As long as she doesn’t put anything in her name that can catch a lien, she’ll never pay a dime
MaelstromTX@reddit
I hope they break her legs and throw her in a ditch when she gets out of prison.
ComparisonVisible959@reddit
Classy
MaelstromTX@reddit
She deserves even worse.
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frenchkids@reddit
Good. I have zero sympathy for her. Killed an accomplished young man sitting watching TV.
noncongruent@reddit
On the worst and least day of his full life he was a better person than Guyger could ever aspire to be. The world has truly become a lesser place in some small way because he is not in it and she is.
Tipsy247@reddit
I think the family got pissed she was seeking parole
themobiledeceased@reddit
It's simple outrage and follow through. It isn't being widely reported that Amber did not attend the Civil trial, she could not afford an attorney, and did not meet criteria to be provided an attorney. There was no defense presented.
noncongruent@reddit
From what I understand the state is only obligated to provide an attorney in criminal cases, not private civil cases as was the case here.
TexasLiz1@reddit
I love the fact that she didn’t get parole because she kept filing appeals and so it showed that she was not in any remorseful and did not in fact take full accountability for her crime.
My heart grew three sizes the day I heard that. She should die in prison.
frenchkids@reddit
Toe-tag parole is what she should get.
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ComparisonVisible959@reddit
You're no better than she is.
frenchkids@reddit
Right. Have the day you deserve.
connivingbitch@reddit
So they filed a civil suit? Pretty sure that was going on prior to her trying to get parole. And would they really be that surprised that she was trying to get paroled? This is some pretty flaccid supposition.
earthworm_fan@reddit
No, the family wants money if she were to make money from the case.
Mimaw10@reddit
His brother (a strong Christian) in a packed televised courtroom spoke out telling her he’d forgiven her and asked the judge if he could give her a hug - which he did. One of the most emotional moments I’ve ever witnessed / that had everyone in tears. When this new case against her was filed - she declined attorney representation. The entire civil case against her - and the INSANE monetary verdict - is such a surprise. She is a devastated & very remorseful young woman sitting in prison! So yes, I wonder what point the family is trying to make. When is enough ENOUGH?
Wtfareyoutalkinabt@reddit
Fuck y’all Republicans. A lot of remorseful black people in jail but y’all don’t have this same “enough is enough sympathy” fuck her hope something happens to her in jail
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ComparisonVisible959@reddit
Apparently neither do you.
TexasLiz1@reddit
She’s not remorseful. She tried to appeal the verdict. Please explain how wanting to vacate a correct judgement shows remorse.
She‘s a young woman sitting in prison. Botham Jean is a corpse. She did that. She was tried and sentenced to a relatively lenient 10 years. She didn’t even want to serve that.
Her family wants to ensure that she in no way profits off this crime - that’s their right. Who are you to decide when they get enough justice for the murder of their son / brother / whatever - a freaking accountant sitting in his apartment eating ice cream!
HermannZeGermann@reddit
The civil case against her is hardly a surprise. She caused injury to someone else, so she's financially liable for it (in addition to being criminally liable).
As to the INSANE $ verdict, she's welcome to appeal it as a matter of right, just like everyone else who has ever lost a civil suit.
MagicMike352@reddit
How do you come up with that amount? She’ll move to Florida like OJ did.
Rockm_Sockm@reddit
She should pay with jail time.
I am loathe to say this because i dont want to defend her. They need to stop with these bullshit mulimillion judgements against civilians while corporations get 1950s fines.
Joeylaptop12@reddit
Well I am loathe or whatever to say this, you only think it’s bullshit because you don’t understand the process. Or maybe even feel an innate subconscious antipathy towards certain groups seeking justice?
Regardless, as others have noted, it’s to ensure she can’t profit off her killing of an innocent black man
Your strange irritation be damned
Rockm_Sockm@reddit
You're just making baseless assumptions and responding irrationally out of pure emotion. You aren't loathe to he an asshole, you quite enjoy the sarcasm.
I said she should pay with actual jail time.
Zero judgements against an individual should he for an imaginary number they will never earn a 10th of in their lifetime. They are getting more and more frequent.
Corporations on the other hand are still paying 1950s fines for breaking the law. It's actually just cheaper for them to pay the fine and they save millions. You completely ignored this because it doesn't suit your limited point of view.
One day you will grow up and realize there are standards everyone has to be held to equally. If it's a case with a piece of shit who had it coming like her, or Nintendo versus anyone legally emulating games they own.
happy_puppy25@reddit
Seriously. I’m an anxious person and worried about small infractions like driving fines. Here this person is that commits an awful act and never goes to prison. This world isn’t right
FearerOfonomatopoeia@reddit
Yeah, this is why I never liked cop supporters or people who talked about "justice porn" or "FAFO".
I'll see "FAFO" to justify killing a homeless man for screaming in public or a petty thief shoplifting. Meanwhile, a upper-class person who steals millions gets a few years. Meanwhile, a cop who does something extremely bad gets a warning or a year. Meanwhile, a a multi-billion corporation who regularly steal billions in stole wages or environmental damages or tax evasion gets fined for less than they saved by committing the crimes.
There's no justice if the most powerful get slaps on the wrist while the poorest and most vulnerable of society get the worst punishments.
beaute-brune@reddit
Not taking what you’re saying as defending her, but I don’t see it as bullshit in the age of Internet and hypermedia. It’s so easy to spin your life into a story people will pay to see or straight up finance now, running your lifestyle and likeness as its own business. So many people, no matter how shitty they are, building podcasts, vlogging, setting up donation sites, becoming talkshow and oped guests, Onlyfans, so on and so forth. I see this as a good defensive move by the family.
noncongruent@reddit
Will she earn enough money to satisfy this judgement during the rest of her life? Almost certainly not. Will Botham Jean's family be waiting there to collect their share of every dollar she makes the rest of her life? Certainly. She'll never have a good credit score again, it'll be in the shitter and that'll hurt her finances for the indefinite future. It's the least she deserves.
frenchkids@reddit
AMEN
hullowurld@reddit
does this judgement follow her if she declares bankruptcy?
Rtfmlife@reddit
I dunno why the other poster said yes, because generally negligence and personal injury judgments are dischargeable in bankruptcy. The only exceptions are willful and malicious injury, fraud, and other intentional torts.
If and when she gets out of prison and declares bankruptcy (or declares it in prison) the Court would have to determine the dischargeable status of the judgment. The exceptions are listed in Section 523 of the bankruptcy code.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/523
Traps86@reddit
Killing someone would not be typically discharged. Civil cases come in every shape and size... sure, more minor small claims can be discharged, killed someone? Not likely, ask OJ, o wait, he's dead now.
hullowurld@reddit
Thanks for your detailed response
Traps86@reddit
yes
GrundleKnots@reddit
He asked "does" not "should"
Traps86@reddit
yes, i answered the question asked...in a civil case where negligence was proved, you can't discharge it...not sure how that is confusing to you.
Rtfmlife@reddit
She will declare bankruptcy after this just like OJ Simpson did. Take a look at what happened with the OJ Simpson judgment if you want a preview.
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
She isnt a celebrity like oj
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
Celebrity status does not, in this context, give her any additional advantage.
Own-Reception-2396@reddit
People cared about oj, she is a nobody in a forgettable largely local case
fsi1212@reddit
That doesn't really matter in bankruptcy cases. Bankruptcy is actually very simple. I did it successfully with no attorney assistance.
Spare-Cap-3900@reddit
She’s already serving her time. I agree she should not profit from this, but don’t condemn her financially for the rest of her life. How can she rehabilitate with this anchor around her neck? I don’t agree with this.
TexasLiz1@reddit
She killed a man. She was a 5 year veteran whose reckless actions resulted in the death of a completely innocent man. She got off with a light sentence. She deserves an anchor around her neck.
She probably could have rehabilitated by accepting accountability, showing genuine remorse and not trying to appeal a very light sentence.
noncongruent@reddit
I think she should be condemned until such point as Botham Jean can return to his family and those that loved him and miss him terribly.
HermannZeGermann@reddit
So Botham Jean's family should just receive nothing then?
deja-roo@reddit
They have already settled with the city.
HermannZeGermann@reddit
Uh huh, cool. How is that relevant?
Did the city's settlement release the killer cop from liability? No.
deja-roo@reddit
It's relevant because you asked if his family should just receive nothing. They didn't receive nothing.
Chippedg70@reddit
🫡
jessreally@reddit
Good verdict. I wish the judgement applied to the whole family so they can't profit off of this killing either
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
To what degree is the family responsible for this tragedy?
jessreally@reddit
The degree to which the Guyger family should be able to profit off of her killing Botham Jean, though, is 0.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
Have they even attempted to do this? In any way in the years since it has happened?
jessreally@reddit
Is your point that they won't because they haven't?
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
I'm just asking if you have any reason to suggest these people have done anything to profit off this death, other than being related to the person that committed the crime. Are you going to answer the question, or just state that you have zero indication they have done any indication that they have done anything wrong?
Pretty simple question, really.
jessreally@reddit
Saying I hope the Guyger's can't do something isn't in the least implying that they have done that. Your questions are based on what you inferred rather than what I actually said. I can infer things from your responses, too. As shown in my replies to you.
Anyway like I said, I hope the Guyger's can't profit off Amber Guyger's killing of Botham Jean.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
You did not say that. At all.
It's a question. Why is it so hard for you to give a simple answer? If the answer is no, just say that. If the answer is yes, show us.
There's no need to infer anything. When someone asks me a question about what I think, I answer. You seem to be unwilling to do that.
I ask you again, do you have any indication they have attempted to do that, or intend to do that? It seems like a very straightforward answer.
jessreally@reddit
I know what I said. I'm looking for loopholes in this judgement granted today to the Jean family. I'm not concerned about what the family of the killer Amber Guyger has done. I'm concerned with ways to ensure they can't profit off her killing Botham Jean. If you have no ideas towards that end, then you are of no use to me in this thread so get out my replies
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
Apparently not, because you did not say "I hope" until I started questioning you.
So why don't you answer the question?
That's nice. Do you have any evidence that her family has attempted to do this or intends to do this? You're refusing to answer the question.
Then stop replying or quit being a coward and answer the question. These aren't "your" replies. You could very easily just state what you think one way or the other, right now it looks like you're avoiding the question.
jessreally@reddit
Don't confuse yourself as someone to whose questions I owe answers. Plenty of ways to get you out of my replies. Thank you for amplifying my posts.
MisterSumone@reddit
Why do people like you exist? Is it solely to increase the carbon footprint while wasting oxygen?
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MisterSumone@reddit
Im concerned with ways to ensure that Joe Biden doesn't profit off covid deaths.
You and me? We're basically the same.
earthworm_fan@reddit
The average user here doesn't even know the basic facts around the case.
A_Homestar_Reference@reddit
Redditors constantly surprise me with the amount of angry vengeance they lust for in things they're barely involved with and hold no direct experience with. All you need is a tasty headline.
Large-Vacation9183@reddit
Is it high? Hell yes. Will she ever be able to pay them that amount? Hell no.
Regardless, if you don’t want that price tag hanging over your head for the rest of your life, don’t kill anybody, and it’s not an issue
Dropping-Truth-Bombs@reddit
Maybe she’ll open an OnlyFans to start paying some of it off.
MickTravis1@reddit
From the attorney for the Jean family comments post verdict it seems like they were making a case against the city and the jury bought it. I know they tried to go after the city and it was previously thrown out. His comments included things like police violence needs to end and qualified immunity needs to be abolished.
Joeylaptop12@reddit
People in the comments are more angry about the family’s legal strageties then about Botham Jean’s killing
It’s almost like they can’t stand facing the reality of anyone being punished for their racism or attempt to profit. Expect nothing less from r/Dallas
undeniablykostas@reddit
How? How can a person who's in prison pay that?
Browning1917@reddit
LOL!
That's kinda like what that idiot Bannon has been charged with telling him he's supposed to pay BILLIONS to his plaintiffs.
Ain't gonna happen.
General_Lake9863@reddit
I understand that loss is priceless and that poor family really lost an amazing young man, but gosh 98 million is just insane! I also understand that theyre trying to "send a message", but come on 54m like they agreed on originally wouldve been plenty