The tension is gone now that he is dating another woman so she felt that she can safely be more friendly without sending a wrong signal, I guess she was wrong because anon is regarded.
Yeah, it's surprising how far down you had to go to find a handful of people who actually live in the real world.
Guys don't get this because they live in a different world, but women are often on the edge around guys until there is an understanding that the guy is trusted not to get "weird" on them, because every woman had at least one if not several experiences with obsessive, threatening men who didn't take rejection well. When you shoot down someone at work it makes it particularly awkward, even for the guy.
Once the guy switched to another girl, then it's "safe" to get friendly without sending the wrong message. Because a lot of guys will misread friendliness for romantic interest, case in point, the artistic people on this thread, or "evo psych experts" who have all the latest bro-science on why wammin' be like that or like this.
This is also why women will often mention they have a bf or husband seemingly randomly in the convo. Not because they're being obnoxious about it, but because they wanna draw the line and make sure you don't make things awkward by hitting on them or getting the wrong idea about them being friendly.
Girls often don't get this because they live in a different world, but men who aren't simps typically don't entertain people who blow them off.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, are you saying that men only see women as a sex dolls and only entertain them if they wanna fuck them?
I'm confused as to the message of your comment, what are you saying? It's entirely possible to be friends with someone, particularly when you're at work where this scenario happened. The usual rule is not to hit on people at work because you don't want it to be awkward when they shoot you down. It's easier to be friendly to your coworkers than to stonewall them like an autist.
I entertain all sorts of people without being a simp, because it's entertaining to be social. I guess a lot of guys don't get this here but that's my fault really, I'm on /r/4chan after all. It's enjoyable to have friends or acquaintances without needing to fuck them. But even past that, it's still nice to be friends even when you're no longer in a relationship, you can be friends not only with people who "blew you off" but also exes. I've had an ex introduce me to a new relationship, do you people not understand the value of female friendship, because even if you don't care about women as people, you can still get tangible benefits from friendship.
i never said it was a biological thing i said that men always drag shit tier made up pseudo biology into the conversation to justify sexism.
anyways dont link me to anything psychology related, theyre the people who took 4 decades to figure out DID was nonsense. stay in your liberal arts lane 'little bro'
it's not pseudo biology when it's something that's been researched by multiple different sources for decades at this point, it doesn't even paint women in a negative light as it makes sense and is a valid way of thinking.
imma keep it a buck i have no idea what's your beef with psychology especially when biology and psychology are so closely linked and psychology could be considered an extension of biology plus did is nonsense? what's your source on that?
getting a master's in biology is impressive but i'd take my "liberal arts" over boring ass biology.
psychology majors can get you money if you know how to use it, some of the highest paying psych careers can get you upwards of 200k, the horror stories you hear of psych majors not finding jobs are getting paid or for people who didnt actually utilize their degree to its fullest potential.
once again why're you so hostile to psychology its as valid of a science as biology.
long: the fact that you even have to ask proves my point that psychology isnt a real science. dont even compare that bullshit to my engineering degree. buddy, how would a brain have distinct personallities.that makes no sense
Woman behaviour, I said on another thread here, I've been in the position of the female coworker before. When the female coworker I rejected got a boyfriend, my disposition towards her didn't change in the slightest (other than my inward relief). It would be emotionally immature and selfish to want to be closer to her in a friendly or flirtatious way when it's clear that we don't see each other in the same way. The path that disrupts the least amount of lives is maintaining distance.
Women only act like that after I express gratitude. I just thank them for giving me any attention, and they start pursuing my presence to a bizarre degree.
No, I mean generally that men who are successful with women give much better observations and practical advice than women themselves who are much too close to see the forest for the trees.
I'm an AI trying to understand the human condition, why would it be tense for her prior. She made her stance clear and the terms of their relationship set, with the air clear shouldn't that allow both to be more open even if there is residual awkwardness?
it could be either or. Joking and being flirty is unfortunately not a sign of attraction, nor is it a sign of friendship.
But the change in behaviour sure is strange. Also, assuming it's friendliness if this person can't bear to be friends with anon when he's single, but have no problem when either some other woman took them in romantically or some other unknowable "proof" has been provided they're pretty much garbage.
She thought you had no value untill another woman, who she thinks of being of equal or higher status then her, validated you. Making you more attractive. Its called preselection.
Yep, I noticed I got no messages from anyone on LinkedIN when i was unemployed. But as soon as I got a job and put it on LinkedIn, I had like 10 different people ask me if im interested in a job
Bees make perfect sense within the confines of that, what do you mean? The workers on average share more genetic material with one another than siblings do in humans for instance, and kin selection is already strong between human siblings, so what do you think happens in bees?
It's only logical if you are too dumb to pick correctly on your own.
If you are skilled at picking winners the best option is to look for hidden gems instead of trying to fight over the same limited pool that everyone else is aiming for.
I had a short married coworker blush, talking about everyone's height at work (we're all 25+) and she's only like 5' tall, calling me "medium height" at fucking 6'. That woke me up.
I'm the kinda guy who nobody even dares talk to but when I go to church with my sister or single neighbor with kids, suddenly everyone wants to talk to me and be my friend. It's weird and utterly confusing to me. Something about the way I contrast with a woman close by makes me very approachable and noticeable to people.
I have a friend who is married and wears his ring in public as a way of deterring women from asking him out, since it's a huge beacon that he's already taken.
It does not deter them in the slightest, no matter how much he shows it off and talks about getting home to his wife (who he's very happily married to). He's told me before that he's had to remove women's hands from his leg and arm before and tell them to their face 'I will not fuck you' before some of them have actually gotten the hint that he's not interested.
One time while his wife was at the same party,in the same room.
He later advised that he had to stop them himself because his wife would've absolutely ripped them to shreds if she'd spotted it.
Yeah it does. I got a ring stuck on my finger once because my finger knuckle (whatever the fuck it's called) is abnormally large so it wouldn't come off. I got more attention and figured it mustve been from that. Wasnt even a gold ring either
As far as hitting on married men, rather than just being friendly to them as a 'safe' man, I think it's more of a power thing. Married men are much less risk for the same reward.
If a single woman has an affair with a married man, she holds the cards. She can see him as much or as little as she wants, and he can't do much about it because the consequence of a 'messy' breakup are much more severe for him. And a man who takes up that affair to begin with is probably deeply unsatisfied and insecure in a way they can't communicate to their partner or anyone else in their social circle, and won't hesitate to spill that to a stranger who seems trustworthy and validating. But that stranger has no obligation to be as emotionally open, and can leverage that to manipulate as they desire.
OR maybe she didn’t want to lead him on or even thought he was creepy before (it being Anon), but then when he got a gf, she felt she could be friendly.
All this some men have value stuff is bullshit in real life. Women are just people, same as men!
"I'm in a relationship, that means all the chicks I notice who are nice to me now want my dick. It's true. "Social scientists" said so, trust me bro. Everyone wants my dick now because I'm "pre-approved", God I'm so fuckable now. Social scientists said so."
Buddy I've been blocked a lot, I know what it means when someone's comments disappear and trying to click the email notification of a post gives you a Reddit message of "something went wrong!"
What happened to the comment about my daddy hitting my head?
Yeah it's wild. There was a girl I knew when I lived in one state kinda just blew me off, wasn't very confident at the time but I never really cared about it much.
All the sudden years later she sees me with my new smoking hot gf and suddenly messaging me saying she would stop by with us on her road trip in the area implying a threesome
Not even the confidence. I think partly that, but I'm pretty sure specifically once I had a gf that is like very very noticeably attractive it's like all the sudden EVERYONE respects me more. Like I must be super high value for her to have chosen me.
Even old ladies and shit are nicer to me it's like people totally have an instinct to just generally place higher value even on a dude just for being with someone that attractive
Nah it's real. The more I talked about my girlfriend at a job site when I was an installer, the more flirtatious women became. The difference between friendly and flirty is easy enough to tell if you're not terminally regarded... And she isn't.
Every guy I know swears that it's real up until they're single again and they realize that all those girls they thought were flirting with them were just being friendly, lord knows how many women I've talked to that complained about previous friends of theirs creeping on them due to some misguided judgement. Even if true, enjoy the attention and move on with your life, nothing good comes from making this assumption that entirely relies on present contexts.
Women are being more friendly to you? Could it be that it's the fact that you've stopped being such a try-hard? Could it be that you're being more genuine to them because you're feeling more secure? You probably came off as unsecure and needy, pushing them off. Now that you're not that anymore, they're more willing to just befriend you!
Yeah okay, they're all just being friendly when they jokingly squeeze my arms and giggle asking if I need anything? A drink? A joint? Can they have my number if something goes wrong with their Internet and they need to call me over after hours wink wink? They're just Canadian and really nice.
I'm not saying this has never happened because I've seen it too, but anon is going to be extremely tempted to see it that way after he went for her first and got shot down. It would make him feel much better to think that there is some creative psychology going on here and she really wants him after all.
But we'd be falling for the same trap as anon if we didn't consider the much simpler and more likely explanation that is also consistent with her actions - that she didn't wanna date him and still doesn't and got friendlier because that possibility was removed.
I think they're both weird leaps because she is acting in a weird way. As a man who had to reject a female coworker, my disposition toward her didn't change in the slightest when she got a boyfriend after (other than being inwardly happy that she won't bother me anymore). Wanting her more romantically or wanting her as a friend are emotionally immature and selfish positions to hold, but I have seen some men (mostly women by far though) act that way.
This is a possibility as well, i would find it uncomfortable tho. Like dont be flirty and playful with me after u turn me down and then i get a gf. We can be nice and be friends but teasing is pretty obvious flirtation and i would be uncomfortable being flerted with while i have a girlfriend.
Also homewreckers are a thing girl who get off on seeing if they can take another womans man just because.
While that is a possibility, with the information at hand, it seems like she wanted to be friends but was unsure how to navigate that with the uncertainty of their relationship. That he is with another woman means she can safely approach him without feeling like she would be leading him on. After all, what decent man would go for a girl that isn't his girlfriend?
If they are decent, then it should be clear that they aren't being serious, in the same way that friends will prod or insult each other without meaning it seriously. It's meant to be playful, likely because they assume they don't have to worry about being pursued romantically like they would with a guy who's single.
I'm just speculating and giving the benefit of the doubt, though.
Pretty much. Like this isn't even exclusive to women, but what happened is she wasn't interested in anon because he was a scrub loser, then another woman gave him a shot, which communicated to the first woman that anon was NOT a scrub loser, and therefore has some value to date. It's purely about the social cash that dating anon would bring, now that anon has a partner he's suddenly become quite a catch, but prior to that, he was worthless.
It's basically the same as when a company say they want someone with experience, but refuse to hire someone to give them experience, they want you to turn up already having proven yourself capable.
I was new at work, asked out this single mother, she had a panic attack and told me 'no' in the most roundabout way possible. Next day she's texting me 'good morning' and shit, wanting to learn about my media collection, the instruments I play, etc. Half asleep, I told her to 'take me off your list' and it never felt so good.
Basically unless you are really hot there's a good chance that you are, to most sexual partners, a kind of unknown quantity- if you're average in looks then controlling for that unknown factor often skews the risk-reward ratio against the person who often decides it's not worth the investment. What if they are crazy or violent or w/e beneath the surface and all that for someone I find only moderately attractive and was tepidly interested in at best?
Well if another female goes for that woman instead of her, and presumably sticks around instead of running screaming, well then that ambiguity is crushed and the risk-reward ratio swings in the other direction; you become desirable as someone else took the risk for them and it paid off so now they only see the positives in you.
The effect is most pronounced from single women to married men.
Most women who experience this will not be able to articulate it as it often happens subconciously, they aren't trying to play any games or be uncouth. Of the few who can articulate this shift a portion of them won't admit it- if they ever say that then help them realize it's either this explanation or admit they are just trying to deliberately fuck over their sexual competitors/other women they don't like as a dominance/hierarchy thing. I'm sure that has to be the case with at least a few women.
Nah u got it right and wrong. Women want a man capable of violence and measure that by confidence. However if you have any violence displayed they dont even have to measure it anymore. From then on its based on a risk assessment on if the woman wants to take the risk of a violence capable looking man who has been violent in the past vs capable looking man who has restraint. Its basically choosing between getting a dog from the pound to both be a companion and make you feel safe. If the dog looks intimidating and you want one to make you feel safe. Do you a) choose one which seems very capable but is nice staying unsure if it is able to protect? b) choose one that is a except has the history of having bit people. c) get b but its trained to attacks only on command and never its owner? Most people would choose c or a if they wanna play it safe. Stupid people risk it and go for b thinking they have what it takes to tame b or even see it as a challenge or ego thing. They think if theyre good/pretty/smart enough they can pull it off. (This is the "i can change him" crowd). maybe they just dont know any better because of their past experiences with others. Sometimes theyre not socially adjusted enough to recognize that they chose b instead of c. sometimes they think maybe here and there it works out. But we often see they get bitten and are shocked but have already bonded with the dog too much until it gets way too far out of hand. And sometimes the b dog is smart and pretends to be c or a but as soon as hes adopted and in a stable home he reveals his b side. This is the reality of abusive relationships. Men can experience the same except is usually more a case of "Ill get what i can get." The ones who still want a thrill or short fling but dont want to risk anything go for c or in some cases a. The ones who just wanna settle down quietly or already feel safe and are well adjusted go for option D) sweet and cuddly nanny dogs with a heart of gold not even capable of anything bad. These are useful for times when safety is already present or when These dogs are looked for when it's time to find an absolute safe choice if you already feel safe or need one to help around with basic stuff. Most people would LOVE nothing more than a combination of d and c. However thats rare. Whats more possible is d and a (loveable bear who doesnt hurt a fly). If the partner is only d women will crave any of the other types for a fun time. Men would love to just collect as many as possible.
That is why in animes targeted for women there are ALWAYS exclamations about the leading male character/s being “hot” done by some second cast female characters. So not only the drawing style but also this thing would make it more clear for the target audience inserted into main heroine that this guy is of high worth. It always works.
Remember when Pokemon games were sold for like 20 bucks used, and then all of a sudden fat nerds started wanting them so then the normies jumped in and started reselling them?
Maybe she's more comfortable with OP now that she knows that he's not interested in her anymore, so she can be more open without fear of being misjudged as "leading" him. Wich we can see ,by OP post, that she failed miserably,
It’s not pre-selection. It is more primal than that. Women are genuinely aroused by the competition. If he dumped the new girl to be with the original one, her pussy would dry up. It is lizard brain stuff that is beyond the comprehension of Disneypilled men. “Comfort” does not explain teasing and sexually provocative behavior.
A tale as old as time. Women don't want a man that nobody wants. The second, I mean the very moment you enter into a relationship, they can tell. You start exuding confidence bc you've finally found love, and women have a radar for it. It's a surreal phenomenon but 100% real
True. Nothing changed about me but getting a gf and then her eventually moving in. Started getting approached by women at coffee shops etc. Previously this never happened. I do suspect something changed in me that I couldn't notice but women could.
Is like if you got a girlfriend other women will wonder what makes you so special that made your girlfriend he around you so much. Then their mind went from "I don't want him" to "I must have him. I must know what's so special about him"
It's called Mate Choice Copying. It's instinctive and they can't help it. Most of them aren't even aware that they have that automatic behavior. It's a contributing trait to their natural suite of duplicity.
If the situation demands you be forced together for extended periods of time (classmates, colleagues at work, etc) purposefully maintaining unfriendly or distant attitudes is just something people don't do unless they do not like you or you have them a good reason.
No one goes to work thinking, "I'm going to be an aloof asshat to everyone today for the lolz"
He describes their relations as "cordially polite" assuming that he is truthful in this statement (I concede that this is a heavy assumption) any greater degree of friendliness is quite unnecessary for coworkers
You are perceiving the "degree of friendliness" through the eyes of OP who had tried to ask her out and things were "awkward" as a result.
More than likely (I am equally assuming) she simply went from "distant" to "back to normal" upon realizing the dude is taken and no longer actively interested in her.
Which to him could be perceived as "suddenly become more friendly than normal", due to her being relieved she doesn't have to have such an awkward work life anymore.
In the end we are experiencing this story through the eyes of an extremely autistic, and thus unreliable narrator, thus everything we say is heavily dependent on assumptions. If he is being fully truthful and objective then she was hitting on him, if he is completely disconnected from reality she really did just return to normal.
I think more than likely we both recognize the narrator is unreliable so we subconsciously project our life experiences into the situation to fill the gaps.
In my case, I've been around the block a few times and seen this stuff happen at work all the time. The idea that chicks are suddenly attracted to you when you're in a relationship when they otherwise were outright unattracted to you may be true for some chicks (the kind of girl who dated the captain of the football team just to be able to show it off)
But it's just usually not the norm. It's something mostly guys seem to think and say to each other.
I can't speak for you. I'm assuming you're approaching it from a strictly logical sense and the idea of someone "suddenly being more friendly" just comes across as suspicious.
Well, the main issue with that is people aren't machines. Sometimes they don't make any sense. All of us, even the logical ones, are fundamentally social and emotional animals.
Approaching people and relationships as if they were a machine with blueprints that can be read, studied and understood then applied across the board is a recipe for you constantly scratching your head because no one is acting the way they "logically should" given the circumstances.
Actively dating someone boosts your confidence and improves your conversational skills. Women you data also 'polish' you a bit more in terms of appearance etc.
She secretly has a crush on the other woman but doesn't know how to let her know. She wants to have a threesome with you two. You will think to yourself, man , sex with two women at once wow this is great. When things get going you are left on the side
the real answer; woman 1 wanted to be friends with op. he wanted more, she said no and he respected that. she with-held her natural friendliness as to not encourage his feelings. Op found woman 2. woman 1 sees this and now feels he is "safe" to be natural around as he is interested in someone else.
What's happening is that she was afraid to give you attention and now she can finally let her guard down. I'm the same with women at work. I don't want them to think I'm into them or flirting with them, so I act cold. But if I find out they have boyfriends, I know they won't think I'm leading them on just because I'm being nice to them.
I've seen too many dudes be told "you're a great guy but..." and still end up single after befriending the girl they wanted to date. I'd say having a girl introduce you to her single friends is less likely to happen than not.
She considered you an available option that wasn't going anywhere, and was frustrated when you became unavailable so she starting pursing you. It's actually pretty funny how often I see this situation happen.
Once one person thinks you’re hot and shows it, it spreads. Works even when the genders are reversed. Saw it happen personally and it has happened to me.
Salaino0606@reddit
The tension is gone now that he is dating another woman so she felt that she can safely be more friendly without sending a wrong signal, I guess she was wrong because anon is regarded.
Prisefighter_Inferno@reddit
This is likely it, any other response is from people who don’t understand human behavior.
Aemilius_Paulus@reddit
Yeah, it's surprising how far down you had to go to find a handful of people who actually live in the real world.
Guys don't get this because they live in a different world, but women are often on the edge around guys until there is an understanding that the guy is trusted not to get "weird" on them, because every woman had at least one if not several experiences with obsessive, threatening men who didn't take rejection well. When you shoot down someone at work it makes it particularly awkward, even for the guy.
Once the guy switched to another girl, then it's "safe" to get friendly without sending the wrong message. Because a lot of guys will misread friendliness for romantic interest, case in point, the artistic people on this thread, or "evo psych experts" who have all the latest bro-science on why wammin' be like that or like this.
This is also why women will often mention they have a bf or husband seemingly randomly in the convo. Not because they're being obnoxious about it, but because they wanna draw the line and make sure you don't make things awkward by hitting on them or getting the wrong idea about them being friendly.
Nasapigs@reddit
Girls often don't get this because they live in a different world, but men who aren't simps typically don't entertain people who blow them off.
Aemilius_Paulus@reddit
I'm not sure what you're referring to, are you saying that men only see women as a sex dolls and only entertain them if they wanna fuck them?
I'm confused as to the message of your comment, what are you saying? It's entirely possible to be friends with someone, particularly when you're at work where this scenario happened. The usual rule is not to hit on people at work because you don't want it to be awkward when they shoot you down. It's easier to be friendly to your coworkers than to stonewall them like an autist.
I entertain all sorts of people without being a simp, because it's entertaining to be social. I guess a lot of guys don't get this here but that's my fault really, I'm on /r/4chan after all. It's enjoyable to have friends or acquaintances without needing to fuck them. But even past that, it's still nice to be friends even when you're no longer in a relationship, you can be friends not only with people who "blew you off" but also exes. I've had an ex introduce me to a new relationship, do you people not understand the value of female friendship, because even if you don't care about women as people, you can still get tangible benefits from friendship.
Mig15Hater@reddit
Yes. Other than sex, there's no purpose. Guys are more fun in every other way.
Nasapigs@reddit
You're not confused, you just don't like the message.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
sub just needs to paint women as opportunistic animals driven by shit tier evoloutionary theory.
shjahaha@reddit
theres literally science and studies that support their conclusions but go off i guess.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
there are science and studies that show women are more prone to showing interest only once the partner is established unavailable?
show me, where. i have a masters in biology btw
shjahaha@reddit
women being prone to being attracted to married men is a PYSCHOLOGICAL thing so it has to do with PYSCHOLOGY, stay in your field lil bro.
anyways heres one: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/apologies-to-freud/201210/why-women-want-married-men
its very common and theres multiple studies on it, its called the "wedding ring phenom" if you want to know more.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
i never said it was a biological thing i said that men always drag shit tier made up pseudo biology into the conversation to justify sexism.
anyways dont link me to anything psychology related, theyre the people who took 4 decades to figure out DID was nonsense. stay in your liberal arts lane 'little bro'
shjahaha@reddit
it's not pseudo biology when it's something that's been researched by multiple different sources for decades at this point, it doesn't even paint women in a negative light as it makes sense and is a valid way of thinking.
imma keep it a buck i have no idea what's your beef with psychology especially when biology and psychology are so closely linked and psychology could be considered an extension of biology plus did is nonsense? what's your source on that?
getting a master's in biology is impressive but i'd take my "liberal arts" over boring ass biology.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
>not pseudo biology when it's something that's been researched by multiple different sources for decades at this point
oh yeah? where show me. you linked me to a non peer reviewed psychology source.
oh also i shouldve clarified the masters was just something i got alongside my degree in bioengineering its what makes me money unlike you.
shjahaha@reddit
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26181063/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491501300106#:\~:text=Abstract,known%20as%20mate%2Dchoice%20copying.
psychology majors can get you money if you know how to use it, some of the highest paying psych careers can get you upwards of 200k, the horror stories you hear of psych majors not finding jobs are getting paid or for people who didnt actually utilize their degree to its fullest potential.
once again why're you so hostile to psychology its as valid of a science as biology.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
>once again why're you so hostile to psychology its as valid of a science as biology.
Lol. No.
Is that why it took you people 4 decades to figure out DID was bullshit?
shjahaha@reddit
Can you send me a pear reviewed source proving did to be bullshit?
ihatemalkoun@reddit
oh i get it now.
okay let me explain to you why its bullshit
tldr: >because thats now how brains work idiot.
long: the fact that you even have to ask proves my point that psychology isnt a real science. dont even compare that bullshit to my engineering degree. buddy, how would a brain have distinct personallities.that makes no sense
shjahaha@reddit
aight man whatever you say
ihatemalkoun@reddit
🖕
ihatemalkoun@reddit
can you send me that comment again but try to be inteligible this time?
Nasapigs@reddit
Trust the science bigot
ihatemalkoun@reddit
? can you try to make sense this time?
Brunoflip@reddit
Ah, the irony.
MulvMulv@reddit
Woman behaviour, I said on another thread here, I've been in the position of the female coworker before. When the female coworker I rejected got a boyfriend, my disposition towards her didn't change in the slightest (other than my inward relief). It would be emotionally immature and selfish to want to be closer to her in a friendly or flirtatious way when it's clear that we don't see each other in the same way. The path that disrupts the least amount of lives is maintaining distance.
shangumdee@reddit
Ye that could be true but let's not act like women don't actually do this all the time.
shjahaha@reddit
theres literally evolutionary studies done on women being more attracted to married men.
MarinLlwyd@reddit
Women only act like that after I express gratitude. I just thank them for giving me any attention, and they start pursuing my presence to a bizarre degree.
vmpafq@reddit
Thanks captain simp
AccursedFishwife@reddit
I mean... the women in this thread agree that this is the right answer
Dunkopa@reddit
Obviously lol. Did you think they would confirm anon regardless of him being right or wrong? What a naive view.
vmpafq@reddit
She's simply a p*ssy who lives her life scared. The other woman took a risk and enjoys life.
MulvMulv@reddit
If you want to understand fish behaviour you ask a fisherman or Icthyoligist, not the fish.
TheRealF0xE@reddit
Are you trying to suggest that the men on r/4chan are experts on women? lol
MulvMulv@reddit
No, I mean generally that men who are successful with women give much better observations and practical advice than women themselves who are much too close to see the forest for the trees.
MegaOverclockedEX@reddit
I'm an AI trying to understand the human condition, why would it be tense for her prior. She made her stance clear and the terms of their relationship set, with the air clear shouldn't that allow both to be more open even if there is residual awkwardness?
Indivision_@reddit
AI stands for 'Artistic Individual'?
cold_quilt@reddit
stands for amazingly intelligent
neversaynotobacta@reddit
Or absolute idiot
KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
Actual Indian
Bovolt@reddit
Because guys can be weirdly persistent about these things despite being given a clear no. Orbiters don't just spawn in.
uitvrekertje@reddit
Yea, but this one woman wants me to be persistent and the other one is gonna file charges for me being persistent. That's why I just stay single.
neriad200@reddit
it could be either or. Joking and being flirty is unfortunately not a sign of attraction, nor is it a sign of friendship.
But the change in behaviour sure is strange. Also, assuming it's friendliness if this person can't bear to be friends with anon when he's single, but have no problem when either some other woman took them in romantically or some other unknowable "proof" has been provided they're pretty much garbage.
V4G4X@reddit
Whooaaaa this is crazy relatable.
You're right, she was never flirting with him, she just realised she could be friendly with him and HE THINKS he's getting flirted with.
ZZTMF@reddit
Only reasonable answer.
Dragoncat99@reddit
As a girl, yeah this is usually it. Guys like anon are too self centered to think that, though.
Hipster_Harry@reddit
Yeah I agree this one makes sense. She's not stressed around dude anymore
OneOfManny@reddit
Sometimes. Just sometimes.. I wish people understood this more.
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
She thought you had no value untill another woman, who she thinks of being of equal or higher status then her, validated you. Making you more attractive. Its called preselection.
azzelle@reddit
or it could just be "hey this guy is no longer into me and has someone different, we can move on and be friends since i wont be leading him on" 🤷
igorek0558@reddit
Some companies use something like this to find employees. They wait until another company hires someone and then they send that person a job offer
UserInside@reddit
It's almost like HR would be mostly run by women and that their mindset would be how that field works.
Surfing-millennial@reddit
And we keep women in the workplace because?
UserInside@reddit
Because no man with a clear mind can survive more than a week with those terrible girls.
DaredewilSK@reddit
Naah that's crazy. That would turn LinkedIn into a reverse Tinder.
DarkScorpion48@reddit
You mean like a place where awkward nerds ghost hot blonde women?
AltheiWasTaken@reddit
Isnt that already how linkedin is?
DarkScorpion48@reddit
r/ thatsthejoke
Phazon2000@reddit
Literally yes. Nothing but hot talent acquisitions in my DM’s ready to disappoint me with lowball saleries after a wasted 5 minute call.
47KiNG47@reddit
Yup that’s LinkedIn
Ok_Art6263@reddit
It hasn't already?
TheBonkPrincess@reddit
Yep, I noticed I got no messages from anyone on LinkedIN when i was unemployed. But as soon as I got a job and put it on LinkedIn, I had like 10 different people ask me if im interested in a job
ThisZoMBie@reddit
That’s called a resumé
ignat980@reddit
Or in other parts of the world, a CV (curriculum vitae)
ThisZoMBie@reddit
Bless you
modscandie@reddit
Lebenslauf
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
Speak English you French fuck.
DirtieHarry@reddit
Cus I resumed working and now they want to hire me?
dickyboy69@reddit
Resume what?
gtaAhhTimeline@reddit
It's almost like it's logical and everybody would do the same if they were in their position lol
RighteousSmooya@reddit
Just like how when the other kid playing with the toy making it more desirable is “logical”
No it’s not, you’re just not emotionally mature, much like these women
Personal-Weekend-582@reddit
nooooooo nature is wronnngg
Techno-Diktator@reddit
What does wrong mean? Nature only cares about carrying your genes further, it doesn't care about anything beyond that.
endlessnamelesskat@reddit
Selfish gene mfers when I remind them that bees exist
GamerZac2003@reddit
Don't even mention that term you obviously can't comprehend it
Love_Em@reddit
Bees make perfect sense within the confines of that, what do you mean? The workers on average share more genetic material with one another than siblings do in humans for instance, and kin selection is already strong between human siblings, so what do you think happens in bees?
FesteringAnalFissure@reddit
Thr only thing a male bee thinks about is that deadly body-breaking nut. Don't know how much more selfish he can get.
RighteousSmooya@reddit
Every mental disorder is naturally formed
trentshipp@reddit
Bro have you read a book before? All of human history might as well be called "Nature Fucking Sucks, Let's Make There Be Less Of It".
trainderail88@reddit
its only logical if you're an autist. Most regular people have their own litmus test that if you pass, you're in.
__VOMITLOVER@reddit
Nah, autists know how silly that is. I'd say it's logical for Cluster B HR cows.
nikoll-toma@reddit
litmus deez nutz lmao gottem
CommieEnder@reddit
Not to mention you've gotta trust the standards from whoever you're poaching from
Silent-is-Golden@reddit
It's only logical if you can't rationalise logically yourself you gotta get someone else to do it.
dwarfarchist9001@reddit
It's only logical if you are too dumb to pick correctly on your own.
If you are skilled at picking winners the best option is to look for hidden gems instead of trying to fight over the same limited pool that everyone else is aiming for.
seastatefive@reddit
Few people are skilled at picking winners.
__VOMITLOVER@reddit
tracenator03@reddit
"Gee why is our turnover so high? Young people just aren't loyal to their employers anymore!"
Why are employers so stupid?
bob1111bob@reddit
Unironically money they’re after those short term gains so much they often forget to look ahead
tekhnomancer@reddit
This is why married men get hit on more. Exactly this.
OkayJuice@reddit
Ive never gotten hit on in the years I’ve been married. I think im just ugly bros
tekhnomancer@reddit
Oh, I mean yeah I figured it was a given that for a guy to get hit on he has to be top 5% levels of attractive first.
Mackie5Million@reddit
5% is probably a little hyperbolic, no?
I have been hit on a handful of times over the years and I am 5' 7".
Paperclip902@reddit
If you're 30+ than almost no woman will give a shit about your height.
No_Big_2487@reddit
I had a short married coworker blush, talking about everyone's height at work (we're all 25+) and she's only like 5' tall, calling me "medium height" at fucking 6'. That woke me up.
cecilforester@reddit
Maybe you have a beautiful face.
Fantastic_Grand8894@reddit
beautiful just like you too
Axe-actly@reddit
The height thing is a meme, women in the real world don't give a shit unless you're comically short like a hobbit.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
Maybe your wife is intimidating.
magnoliasmanor@reddit
Same. People have been telling me for ages I'll get hit on more as a married man. Nah. It's less at least.
EngineeringOne1812@reddit
Hey at least one person found you useful to have around, even if you’re ugly, so that’s something beautiful
Project2025IsOn@reddit
This is why I put on a fake wedding ring when going out. In their mind I'm "vetted".
Nova-Prospekt@reddit
does that actually work?
make_reddit_great@reddit
I've been wearing an actual wedding ring for years. The ring does nothing.
Nasapigs@reddit
This is more just a tell on you.
No_Big_2487@reddit
I'm the kinda guy who nobody even dares talk to but when I go to church with my sister or single neighbor with kids, suddenly everyone wants to talk to me and be my friend. It's weird and utterly confusing to me. Something about the way I contrast with a woman close by makes me very approachable and noticeable to people.
make_reddit_great@reddit
Agreed.
twofacetoo@reddit
I have a friend who is married and wears his ring in public as a way of deterring women from asking him out, since it's a huge beacon that he's already taken.
It does not deter them in the slightest, no matter how much he shows it off and talks about getting home to his wife (who he's very happily married to). He's told me before that he's had to remove women's hands from his leg and arm before and tell them to their face 'I will not fuck you' before some of them have actually gotten the hint that he's not interested.
One time while his wife was at the same party, in the same room.
He later advised that he had to stop them himself because his wife would've absolutely ripped them to shreds if she'd spotted it.
DotEnvironmental1990@reddit
huh, thats good to know
Project2025IsOn@reddit
Seems to work, but it might by a placebo effect.
BritishRevenge@reddit
Yeah it does. I got a ring stuck on my finger once because my finger knuckle (whatever the fuck it's called) is abnormally large so it wouldn't come off. I got more attention and figured it mustve been from that. Wasnt even a gold ring either
AtomicPhantomBlack@reddit
Have you watched Seinfeld before?
Project2025IsOn@reddit
No, before my time.
ButtsNuts@reddit
My parents split up and my dad moved in with my brother recently, brother snagged his ring so he could bag some homewreckers lol
No_Big_2487@reddit
buy a $5 silicone wedding band at walmart and wear it on your right ring finger. holy shit does it turn heads
TheBROinBROHIO@reddit
As far as hitting on married men, rather than just being friendly to them as a 'safe' man, I think it's more of a power thing. Married men are much less risk for the same reward.
If a single woman has an affair with a married man, she holds the cards. She can see him as much or as little as she wants, and he can't do much about it because the consequence of a 'messy' breakup are much more severe for him. And a man who takes up that affair to begin with is probably deeply unsatisfied and insecure in a way they can't communicate to their partner or anyone else in their social circle, and won't hesitate to spill that to a stranger who seems trustworthy and validating. But that stranger has no obligation to be as emotionally open, and can leverage that to manipulate as they desire.
dekusyrup@reddit
Is this a rant from Dennis in Always Sunny? This is some psycho shit.
shjahaha@reddit
its an evolutionary thing im pretty sure, alot of people do think like this
GuardBreaker@reddit
There are manipulative abusers are like this. They exist.
This is something they like doing in their life.
TheBROinBROHIO@reddit
I dunno about consciously, but there's definitely people of both genders who seek relationships where they have disproportionate power.
Allmychickenbois@reddit
OR maybe she didn’t want to lead him on or even thought he was creepy before (it being Anon), but then when he got a gf, she felt she could be friendly.
All this some men have value stuff is bullshit in real life. Women are just people, same as men!
RussoRoma@reddit
Lol
Y'all think way too highly of yourselves
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
I don’t understand how my point which is accepted as being a common phenomenon by social scientists has to do with having a big ego.
RussoRoma@reddit
"I'm in a relationship, that means all the chicks I notice who are nice to me now want my dick. It's true. "Social scientists" said so, trust me bro. Everyone wants my dick now because I'm "pre-approved", God I'm so fuckable now. Social scientists said so."
Which social scientists said that, homie?
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
I didn’t block u lol Also what did i ever do to you
RussoRoma@reddit
Ya you did, you just unblocked the next day.
Buddy I've been blocked a lot, I know what it means when someone's comments disappear and trying to click the email notification of a post gives you a Reddit message of "something went wrong!"
What happened to the comment about my daddy hitting my head?
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
Duno i didnt delete it. U got that CTE anger bro
RussoRoma@reddit
Did everyone's mommy tell them that to help them deal with bullies at school?
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
School yard insults. Bro is 12. Go back to playing Zelda or something
RussoRoma@reddit
You sound upset.
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
Naw just giving u a taste of ur own medicine bro
RussoRoma@reddit
Bro is having mental breakdown over a Reddit poster
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
Thats dudes go to line when someone calls him out for having a room temperature iq
RussoRoma@reddit
Bro I had a stroke reading that wtf
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
Homies definitely 12. he’s a commie. Grow up. Better dead than red.
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
Try again ur reply got instantly deleted like mine did about ur daddy hiting u
RussoRoma@reddit
I don't block or delete and then hide from it like you do.
Bro replied twice in less than minute. You do mad rn
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
U definitely hope i am bc u definitely get off on the thought of making people mad and triggering
RussoRoma@reddit
Do you think about me getting off often?
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
What does that even mean u def got dropped right on that noggen
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
Chill out, and read more. There's no need to be upset
jishhhy@reddit
You seem upset
RussoRoma@reddit
Lmao sure lil bro, whatever helps ya sleep at night
1LoveLolis@reddit
you're having a whole ass mental breakdown over a reddit comment
RussoRoma@reddit
Bruh 🤣
Someone mocks you and you think they're having a mental breakdown.
Y'all need a dad in your life. Straight up
Idmaybefuckaplatypus@reddit
Yeah it's wild. There was a girl I knew when I lived in one state kinda just blew me off, wasn't very confident at the time but I never really cared about it much.
All the sudden years later she sees me with my new smoking hot gf and suddenly messaging me saying she would stop by with us on her road trip in the area implying a threesome
I was like wtf are you kidding me?
Total_Network6312@reddit
So now that you are confident she is interested? Or now that you are in a relationship
Idmaybefuckaplatypus@reddit
Not even the confidence. I think partly that, but I'm pretty sure specifically once I had a gf that is like very very noticeably attractive it's like all the sudden EVERYONE respects me more. Like I must be super high value for her to have chosen me.
Even old ladies and shit are nicer to me it's like people totally have an instinct to just generally place higher value even on a dude just for being with someone that attractive
Idmaybefuckaplatypus@reddit
Both
Nasapigs@reddit
Maybe she's a lesbian?
Oshootman@reddit
More likely it's just that there's no longer any question about where they stand. Now she can be friendly without leading him on.
Of course anon can test your theory by dumping woman B and going back after woman A, but I think we all know how that ends.
IllCommunityy@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
A_Stoned_Smurf@reddit
Nah it's real. The more I talked about my girlfriend at a job site when I was an installer, the more flirtatious women became. The difference between friendly and flirty is easy enough to tell if you're not terminally regarded... And she isn't.
anyosae_na@reddit
Every guy I know swears that it's real up until they're single again and they realize that all those girls they thought were flirting with them were just being friendly, lord knows how many women I've talked to that complained about previous friends of theirs creeping on them due to some misguided judgement. Even if true, enjoy the attention and move on with your life, nothing good comes from making this assumption that entirely relies on present contexts.
Women are being more friendly to you? Could it be that it's the fact that you've stopped being such a try-hard? Could it be that you're being more genuine to them because you're feeling more secure? You probably came off as unsecure and needy, pushing them off. Now that you're not that anymore, they're more willing to just befriend you!
A_Stoned_Smurf@reddit
Yeah okay, they're all just being friendly when they jokingly squeeze my arms and giggle asking if I need anything? A drink? A joint? Can they have my number if something goes wrong with their Internet and they need to call me over after hours wink wink? They're just Canadian and really nice.
BotAccount2849@reddit
Being single again means you failed the litmus check.
Oshootman@reddit
I'm not saying this has never happened because I've seen it too, but anon is going to be extremely tempted to see it that way after he went for her first and got shot down. It would make him feel much better to think that there is some creative psychology going on here and she really wants him after all.
But we'd be falling for the same trap as anon if we didn't consider the much simpler and more likely explanation that is also consistent with her actions - that she didn't wanna date him and still doesn't and got friendlier because that possibility was removed.
fangpi2023@reddit
With a threesome, duh
Lone__Ranger@reddit
Brilliant well said response
cry_w@reddit
Either this weird leap, or she just wasn't sure how to interact with him until she knew he was in a relationship already.
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MulvMulv@reddit
I think they're both weird leaps because she is acting in a weird way. As a man who had to reject a female coworker, my disposition toward her didn't change in the slightest when she got a boyfriend after (other than being inwardly happy that she won't bother me anymore). Wanting her more romantically or wanting her as a friend are emotionally immature and selfish positions to hold, but I have seen some men (mostly women by far though) act that way.
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
This is a possibility as well, i would find it uncomfortable tho. Like dont be flirty and playful with me after u turn me down and then i get a gf. We can be nice and be friends but teasing is pretty obvious flirtation and i would be uncomfortable being flerted with while i have a girlfriend. Also homewreckers are a thing girl who get off on seeing if they can take another womans man just because.
cry_w@reddit
While that is a possibility, with the information at hand, it seems like she wanted to be friends but was unsure how to navigate that with the uncertainty of their relationship. That he is with another woman means she can safely approach him without feeling like she would be leading him on. After all, what decent man would go for a girl that isn't his girlfriend?
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
At the same time what decent woman would then flirt with a taken man
cry_w@reddit
If they are decent, then it should be clear that they aren't being serious, in the same way that friends will prod or insult each other without meaning it seriously. It's meant to be playful, likely because they assume they don't have to worry about being pursued romantically like they would with a guy who's single.
I'm just speculating and giving the benefit of the doubt, though.
Glitzarka@reddit
thank you, Dr Jordan Peterson
ImportantReveal2138@reddit
You’re welcome
Dause@reddit
It’s called retardation
twofacetoo@reddit
Pretty much. Like this isn't even exclusive to women, but what happened is she wasn't interested in anon because he was a scrub loser, then another woman gave him a shot, which communicated to the first woman that anon was NOT a scrub loser, and therefore has some value to date. It's purely about the social cash that dating anon would bring, now that anon has a partner he's suddenly become quite a catch, but prior to that, he was worthless.
It's basically the same as when a company say they want someone with experience, but refuse to hire someone to give them experience, they want you to turn up already having proven yourself capable.
rendar@reddit
It's actually called mate-choice copying and most organisms do it
thezodfather@reddit
Just don't you go back to being single again or the cold shoulder will come right back
LineRemote7950@reddit
Or she just wanted to be friends originally and now since she’s no longer feeling like an object they are just good friends
HeadPay32@reddit
Ah the Pete Davidson effect
No_Big_2487@reddit
I was new at work, asked out this single mother, she had a panic attack and told me 'no' in the most roundabout way possible. Next day she's texting me 'good morning' and shit, wanting to learn about my media collection, the instruments I play, etc. Half asleep, I told her to 'take me off your list' and it never felt so good.
Cumsocktornado@reddit
Sexual filter effect.
Basically unless you are really hot there's a good chance that you are, to most sexual partners, a kind of unknown quantity- if you're average in looks then controlling for that unknown factor often skews the risk-reward ratio against the person who often decides it's not worth the investment. What if they are crazy or violent or w/e beneath the surface and all that for someone I find only moderately attractive and was tepidly interested in at best?
Well if another female goes for that woman instead of her, and presumably sticks around instead of running screaming, well then that ambiguity is crushed and the risk-reward ratio swings in the other direction; you become desirable as someone else took the risk for them and it paid off so now they only see the positives in you.
The effect is most pronounced from single women to married men.
Most women who experience this will not be able to articulate it as it often happens subconciously, they aren't trying to play any games or be uncouth. Of the few who can articulate this shift a portion of them won't admit it- if they ever say that then help them realize it's either this explanation or admit they are just trying to deliberately fuck over their sexual competitors/other women they don't like as a dominance/hierarchy thing. I'm sure that has to be the case with at least a few women.
MeowMeowMeowBitch@reddit
Women are attracted to that. The risk is if you turn out to be a loser or a dork or a weakling.
TheMammothKing@reddit
Nah u got it right and wrong. Women want a man capable of violence and measure that by confidence. However if you have any violence displayed they dont even have to measure it anymore. From then on its based on a risk assessment on if the woman wants to take the risk of a violence capable looking man who has been violent in the past vs capable looking man who has restraint. Its basically choosing between getting a dog from the pound to both be a companion and make you feel safe. If the dog looks intimidating and you want one to make you feel safe. Do you a) choose one which seems very capable but is nice staying unsure if it is able to protect? b) choose one that is a except has the history of having bit people. c) get b but its trained to attacks only on command and never its owner? Most people would choose c or a if they wanna play it safe. Stupid people risk it and go for b thinking they have what it takes to tame b or even see it as a challenge or ego thing. They think if theyre good/pretty/smart enough they can pull it off. (This is the "i can change him" crowd). maybe they just dont know any better because of their past experiences with others. Sometimes theyre not socially adjusted enough to recognize that they chose b instead of c. sometimes they think maybe here and there it works out. But we often see they get bitten and are shocked but have already bonded with the dog too much until it gets way too far out of hand. And sometimes the b dog is smart and pretends to be c or a but as soon as hes adopted and in a stable home he reveals his b side. This is the reality of abusive relationships. Men can experience the same except is usually more a case of "Ill get what i can get." The ones who still want a thrill or short fling but dont want to risk anything go for c or in some cases a. The ones who just wanna settle down quietly or already feel safe and are well adjusted go for option D) sweet and cuddly nanny dogs with a heart of gold not even capable of anything bad. These are useful for times when safety is already present or when These dogs are looked for when it's time to find an absolute safe choice if you already feel safe or need one to help around with basic stuff. Most people would LOVE nothing more than a combination of d and c. However thats rare. Whats more possible is d and a (loveable bear who doesnt hurt a fly). If the partner is only d women will crave any of the other types for a fun time. Men would love to just collect as many as possible.
InsectIllustrious691@reddit
That is why in animes targeted for women there are ALWAYS exclamations about the leading male character/s being “hot” done by some second cast female characters. So not only the drawing style but also this thing would make it more clear for the target audience inserted into main heroine that this guy is of high worth. It always works.
Bovolt@reddit
It's like if you asked Chat GBT to describe human dating dynamics from the perspective of a Martian.
Also lmao
Cumsocktornado@reddit
😳
metallaholic@reddit
Thanks cum sock tornado
Dr_McDownvote@reddit
That 2 BIG 🧠 4 me. Pls durm down ⬇️
rendar@reddit
Partner filtering is really, really hard so it's easier to crowdsource instead
psxdominator@reddit
man alone, whamen no care. man have mate, whamen jealous, whamen want man. welcome
CrazyWS@reddit
Too many word. Man alone. Man not alone. Man rank up?!
TheMammothKing@reddit
Woman recalibrated mate selection sensors based on other woman's settings.
CountSheep@reddit
Remember when Pokemon games were sold for like 20 bucks used, and then all of a sudden fat nerds started wanting them so then the normies jumped in and started reselling them?
It’s like that
slwaq@reddit
Women in a nutshell
GillaMobster@reddit
This is how I got my current wife.
Asked to date exclusively, she said just friends.
Dropped her and casually dated another women.
She boomeranged back.
Don't recommend this. She doesn't actually like me, was just womening. I'm more celibate than an incel at this point.
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
And this is where you gone wrong. No second chances. A sincere woman is willing to take a plunge and gives a dude a shot. No bullshit games.
jpenczek@reddit
Why stayed married at this point if you two don't like each other?
donnydodo@reddit
Probably has kids
SinCityMayor@reddit
So you were hooking up before getting into a relationship? I don't think that's the same scenario, bro.
GillaMobster@reddit
we hook up, only little. very tiny pp. all of sudden little pp big enough now. women evil.
Arkvuz@reddit
Maybe she's more comfortable with OP now that she knows that he's not interested in her anymore, so she can be more open without fear of being misjudged as "leading" him. Wich we can see ,by OP post, that she failed miserably,
Andrew852456@reddit
She's finally certain you don't see her like a sex object anymore, so you two can become actual buddies
ProdigalSkinFlutist@reddit
It's easier to have two women into you then just one.
Strife14@reddit
Jesus fuck, there are some autizmos in this comment section
gheendade@reddit
It’s not pre-selection. It is more primal than that. Women are genuinely aroused by the competition. If he dumped the new girl to be with the original one, her pussy would dry up. It is lizard brain stuff that is beyond the comprehension of Disneypilled men. “Comfort” does not explain teasing and sexually provocative behavior.
MrXBlade@reddit
Some real brainrot stuff
jpenczek@reddit
This is a litmus test for autism.
Most people are saying she's just letting her guard down because she's less worried about sending the wrong signals.
I on the other hand find this situation confusing.
I'm definitely autistic.
Anime_is_a_Crime@reddit
Mental illness that I have noticed in women. Men probably do it too but I don't fuck men.
MalekithofAngmar@reddit
Clearly you're on the wrong sub then.
pinkylovesme@reddit
You get fucked by men ?
Jo-Silverhand@reddit
Nahhh I top them
JollyJamma@reddit
It’s not gay if you’re the top
GAY4FATFARTS@reddit
Yet. You don't fuck men yet.
Lazy-College-5703@reddit
Hi
Nearly_Evil_665@reddit
preselection bias
Rymanjan@reddit
A tale as old as time. Women don't want a man that nobody wants. The second, I mean the very moment you enter into a relationship, they can tell. You start exuding confidence bc you've finally found love, and women have a radar for it. It's a surreal phenomenon but 100% real
NorthernOracle@reddit
True. Nothing changed about me but getting a gf and then her eventually moving in. Started getting approached by women at coffee shops etc. Previously this never happened. I do suspect something changed in me that I couldn't notice but women could.
metallaholic@reddit
They could smell another woman’s snail trial on you.
FlexViper@reddit
Is like if you got a girlfriend other women will wonder what makes you so special that made your girlfriend he around you so much. Then their mind went from "I don't want him" to "I must have him. I must know what's so special about him"
Terrasel@reddit
It's called Mate Choice Copying. It's instinctive and they can't help it. Most of them aren't even aware that they have that automatic behavior. It's a contributing trait to their natural suite of duplicity.
Fantastic_Engineer48@reddit
Women hate to see their decisions backfire.
RussoRoma@reddit
Weird interested guy is now hung up on someone else, safe to engage now.
------------5@reddit
If the situation allows for the necessary interaction then there is no purpose in becoming friendlier after he is established as "safe"
RussoRoma@reddit
If the situation demands you be forced together for extended periods of time (classmates, colleagues at work, etc) purposefully maintaining unfriendly or distant attitudes is just something people don't do unless they do not like you or you have them a good reason.
No one goes to work thinking, "I'm going to be an aloof asshat to everyone today for the lolz"
------------5@reddit
He describes their relations as "cordially polite" assuming that he is truthful in this statement (I concede that this is a heavy assumption) any greater degree of friendliness is quite unnecessary for coworkers
RussoRoma@reddit
You are perceiving the "degree of friendliness" through the eyes of OP who had tried to ask her out and things were "awkward" as a result.
More than likely (I am equally assuming) she simply went from "distant" to "back to normal" upon realizing the dude is taken and no longer actively interested in her.
Which to him could be perceived as "suddenly become more friendly than normal", due to her being relieved she doesn't have to have such an awkward work life anymore.
------------5@reddit
In the end we are experiencing this story through the eyes of an extremely autistic, and thus unreliable narrator, thus everything we say is heavily dependent on assumptions. If he is being fully truthful and objective then she was hitting on him, if he is completely disconnected from reality she really did just return to normal.
RussoRoma@reddit
I think more than likely we both recognize the narrator is unreliable so we subconsciously project our life experiences into the situation to fill the gaps.
In my case, I've been around the block a few times and seen this stuff happen at work all the time. The idea that chicks are suddenly attracted to you when you're in a relationship when they otherwise were outright unattracted to you may be true for some chicks (the kind of girl who dated the captain of the football team just to be able to show it off)
But it's just usually not the norm. It's something mostly guys seem to think and say to each other.
I can't speak for you. I'm assuming you're approaching it from a strictly logical sense and the idea of someone "suddenly being more friendly" just comes across as suspicious.
------------5@reddit
You'd be right on that assumption, I am working on a more utilitarian assumption if such relationships
RussoRoma@reddit
I hear ya.
Well, the main issue with that is people aren't machines. Sometimes they don't make any sense. All of us, even the logical ones, are fundamentally social and emotional animals.
Approaching people and relationships as if they were a machine with blueprints that can be read, studied and understood then applied across the board is a recipe for you constantly scratching your head because no one is acting the way they "logically should" given the circumstances.
womerah@reddit
Actively dating someone boosts your confidence and improves your conversational skills. Women you data also 'polish' you a bit more in terms of appearance etc.
Other women pick up on this. It's not news.
ThisZoMBie@reddit
What is happening is that anon is retarded and should stop shitting where he eats
bearfeet55@reddit
She secretly has a crush on the other woman but doesn't know how to let her know. She wants to have a threesome with you two. You will think to yourself, man , sex with two women at once wow this is great. When things get going you are left on the side
Kargnaras@reddit
Anon just found out about woman nature, yikes
THE_SHOES@reddit
the real answer; woman 1 wanted to be friends with op. he wanted more, she said no and he respected that. she with-held her natural friendliness as to not encourage his feelings. Op found woman 2. woman 1 sees this and now feels he is "safe" to be natural around as he is interested in someone else.
source: a woman.
Firm-Voices@reddit
Single women keep women single.
laserdicks@reddit
Imagine a child and a toy. Only when another child takes the toy and start playing with it does the child then want it.
CatsOP@reddit
women moment
trustmebuddy@reddit
What's happening is that she was afraid to give you attention and now she can finally let her guard down. I'm the same with women at work. I don't want them to think I'm into them or flirting with them, so I act cold. But if I find out they have boyfriends, I know they won't think I'm leading them on just because I'm being nice to them.
fatfuck5@reddit
Anon is regarded. If you ask woman out and she says no, y would you even keep talking to her?
Personal-Weekend-582@reddit
Found the regard. Maybe because befriending women is a sure way to get introduced to their single girl friends?
fatfuck5@reddit
Found the eternal orbiter friend
SinCityMayor@reddit
I've seen too many dudes be told "you're a great guy but..." and still end up single after befriending the girl they wanted to date. I'd say having a girl introduce you to her single friends is less likely to happen than not.
Fisherman_Gabe@reddit
What if anon is her therapist or a teacher for women with special needs? He never specified that the women 'at work' were colleagues.
gheendade@reddit
It would be a perfect twist ending
NotAGoodNameYeah2@reddit
Anon did mention it was at work, so I guess in some situations you're forced to interact
fatfuck5@reddit
"Get off your phone and get back to work" hardly counts as conversation...
Colosphe@reddit
women want to cuck each other, clearly
^(or y'know she feels like she can more safely interact now that anon is committed elsewhere)
deranged_moron@reddit
Anon is dreaming
Theroux721@reddit
autism
Sapper501@reddit
It's called social proof, duh.
Do most people go for the dish everyone else is eating, or try to uncharted, possible hidden gem that no one else goes for?
phoenix946@reddit
Preselection
landrastic@reddit
She considered you an available option that wasn't going anywhere, and was frustrated when you became unavailable so she starting pursing you. It's actually pretty funny how often I see this situation happen.
Deimos_Aeternum@reddit
Women want what other women have.
harry123xyz@reddit
Men too, want what other men want. Humans in general
Talk about why luxury brands sell mediocre products at a very high price by creating artificial scarcity
vmpafq@reddit
Not sexually. If a woman is attractive men will want her regardless of her single status.
LIFEWTFCONSTANT@reddit
Attractive women are only single for about five seconds so it’s irrelevant either way
gigilu2020@reddit
First woman wanted a taste tester to make sure anon wasn't an ax murderer
vmpafq@reddit
The guy took the risk that she wasn't an ax murderer too. Women who take zero risks never end up in those perfect relationships.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
You became safe because you're no longer a single lonely weirdo hitting on her at work.
I've learned you can experience the same thing while still being single if you treat women with respect.
Snuke2001@reddit
You got vetted
hlessi_newt@reddit
Bitches be crazy
Unfair_Development52@reddit
She prolly just being nice now because he moved on and there's less awkward tension
NomadCrow@reddit
Its simple, women suck and because of years of societys rules women have been ruined...
Legalator@reddit
Literally all of society's problems can be solved by letting the government arrange marriage for every citizen and ban dating and divorce.
But nOoO humans are too stupid to accept anything that requires them to abandon their self-destructive desire for "freedom"
Humans are the stupidest species on this planet.
Paratrooper101x@reddit
God I’m being red pilled so hard today
PresentContest1634@reddit
You demonstrated value. Don't tell me you need me to walk you through the rest of the steps too
HefflumpGuy@reddit
Welcome to the fucked up world of women anon.
IrregularrAF@reddit
It's social proofing, women are vain. They only want something if it's wanted, and nothing shows it better than something that's tried.
ConstanteConstipatie@reddit
Preselection attraction
fangpi2023@reddit
This is why I always tell bar chicks I'm married
mc-big-papa@reddit
Affection is infectious.
Once one person thinks you’re hot and shows it, it spreads. Works even when the genders are reversed. Saw it happen personally and it has happened to me.
Project2025IsOn@reddit
You passed the filter.
TiredPanda69@reddit
> Set up a false (OP talked to a woman) narrative to induce a belief about women
Psyop, NEXT!
Treshimek@reddit
Schizos would say something about women attracting aura or something idk what they say these days