Yeah, it's been on the news all day since the murder happened. I personally don't see it doing much. Banning TikTok & Snapchat will just lead to them migrating to X and/or Instagram.
Not at all. As much as I despise the government, these meassures should have been taken before. Nobody is using TikTok as a free speech tool or criticizing the PM. Only people with real mental disorders rising to fame and promoting violence and the cult of gangsters. There is a guy that literally sings about rape, has been arrested in the past for kidnapping and abusing a minor girl, got jailed and now he has a huge following and influence over teenagers, adults and girls as well. He's very active on TikTok.
The one that killed the other boy and injuried another took a picture of himself raising his fist after the murder and posted it on Snapchat. Days before the incident he had also posted the machette that he would use later as a murder weapon. Hours after the news, two guys which were related to the author, went live on TikTok and were praising him for the murder, talking about escaping jail time as they were minors, and were planning to do the same to another kid of their age.
This is a global issue, but in a country with such a low population as Albania this is shocking as knife violence is becoming popular. These young kids are not part of any gang like in UK or US. They are just heavily influenced by the people on TikTok that promote such acts. And this is the fourth case for this year when two teenagers fight each other with knives ending in a casualty.
There is a guy that literally sings about rape, has been arrested in the past for kidnapping and abusing a minor girl, got jailed and now he has a huge following and influence over teenagers, adults and girls as well. He's very active on TikTok.
The one that killed the other boy and injuried another took a picture of himself raising his fist after the murder and posted it on Snapchat. Days before the incident he had also posted the machette that he would use later as a murder weapon. Hours after the news, two guys which were related to the author, went live on TikTok and were praising him for the murder, talking about escaping jail time as they were minors, and were planning to do the same to another kid of their age.
If you dont use it doesnt mean 14 yo kids dont use it as well. If you are comparing urself with those kids i feel bad for you.
How does some random guy from Romania know what the situation is like? My brother is 13 yo and you have no idea how much bullying, blackmailing, threating and killing is promoted randomly via tiktok. So learn when to not give useless opinions
i noticed my romanian friends (16-17) do not use snapchat, while here in uk 80-90% of my school uses it. but yeah, theres no use for snap other than some streaks.
It's not the way to address the issue at all. The way to do so is by ensuring that victims of violence and bullying get compensated, while perpetrators get punished. Give incentives to victims to report abuse so they will feel safe and protected. This is not going to solve the root cause.
i think wee need to adress that the smartphones are not a toy but a tool that is not for use by the childrens , for me use of the smartphones should be limited only for those over the 16 y of age. also in the school should be zero tolerance for the smartphone use.
from his own words, he didn’t like how the boy (now dead) looked at him, started to threaten him - then the teacher made them settle it. Two days though, the eventual killer had a standoff with the now dead child and friends of each side got involved. The killer had premeditated and hid a knife somewhere outside the school and eventually stabbed his classmate during the fight.
You expect China to ban a Chinese social media company?
Playing the devil’s advocate here, not a sympathy for Rama, but every country should ban TikTok.
Fun fact: Tiktok is "banned" in China. The international version of tiktok we know is not used in China. They have their own version of tiktok called Douyin, which released was released 1 year before tiktok. Its the same app, just for chinese users.
I'm not writing about ban only on TikTok & Snapchat, but ban on any Social Media, which is common in authoritarian countries. As for TikTok, I don't know.
This isn’t gonna change anything. Parents and teachers have to work closely with this children. There is a way to prevent this. Bullying isn’t an underground issue is a neglect issue.
You can take a look at history and when governments decided to ban, it backfired. Still does in countries that ban different services.
Currently in Albania there’s a ban on betting. Guess what?!
People still continue betting. They did while there was a communist regime.
Banning is like cutting off a path. People will find optional paths to get what they want.
It only shows the incompetence of governments in strategizing a solution for its people which lies in deep rooted backwards mentality and customs, generational traumas, negligence etc.
Impulsively, i’d agree, since i don’t like either app, but there’s probably a better way to solve this problem than mindlessly banning entire platforms
half the platform is filled with trash in albania. snapchat is an avenue for child predators everywhere. the only risk is that this shit is gonna transfer to instagram and then what, ban insta?
the internet has always been a source of bullying and violence. banning certain access points because of said reasons is just stupid. This the equivalent when back in the day they where trying to ban CS 1.6 in Germany.
I think though that there should be more moderation by parents and school staff involved to limit the amount of time kids spend on the internet and devices but like said before banning apps wont fix anything lol.
The dumbest most annoying people mindlessly looking through tik tok videos on the bus. They can't even focus on the shitty short videos they just mindlessly scroll through. Always with the phone on full volume to annoy everyone else.
By law anyone seen publicly watching Tik Tok videos must be dry slapped in the face (using a large fish is optional but not compulsory). This is what a serious government would put in place.
I doubt TikTok really made him kill his classmate (If it weren't for TikTok he'd just find "inspiration" to do so in something else) but I see nothing wrong with banning TikTok and short form content in general due to the amount of sheer idiocy in it. I hope that Albania will succed in doing so and that other countries will follow. Go Albania!
RandomRavenboi@reddit
Yeah, it's been on the news all day since the murder happened. I personally don't see it doing much. Banning TikTok & Snapchat will just lead to them migrating to X and/or Instagram.
No_Junket4368@reddit
Then X and Instagram will be banned because of some similar incident
sta6gwraia@reddit
Are these apps any different of the other apps?
elektronyk@reddit
Another excuse to ban social media apps used for dissenting speech, just like they did in Turkey
Who tf even uses Snapchat in 2024
Hellcat_28362@reddit
I have a 300 day snap streak, everyone's on snap
GumiB@reddit
Kids use Snapchat nowadays.
elektronyk@reddit
Huh weird. I am 21 and people my age stopped using Snapchat around 2019.
BrusiOto@reddit
I am 22 and i still have friends using it (they are the aame age too) so it must be a big albanian problem i guess
31_hierophanto@reddit
Can't believe that kids still use Snapchat. I thought everyone just moved to Tiktok!
Rough_Transition1424@reddit
Interesting, I stopped using my it around 2021 and I'm 21
Bejliii@reddit
Not at all. As much as I despise the government, these meassures should have been taken before. Nobody is using TikTok as a free speech tool or criticizing the PM. Only people with real mental disorders rising to fame and promoting violence and the cult of gangsters. There is a guy that literally sings about rape, has been arrested in the past for kidnapping and abusing a minor girl, got jailed and now he has a huge following and influence over teenagers, adults and girls as well. He's very active on TikTok.
The one that killed the other boy and injuried another took a picture of himself raising his fist after the murder and posted it on Snapchat. Days before the incident he had also posted the machette that he would use later as a murder weapon. Hours after the news, two guys which were related to the author, went live on TikTok and were praising him for the murder, talking about escaping jail time as they were minors, and were planning to do the same to another kid of their age.
This is a global issue, but in a country with such a low population as Albania this is shocking as knife violence is becoming popular. These young kids are not part of any gang like in UK or US. They are just heavily influenced by the people on TikTok that promote such acts. And this is the fourth case for this year when two teenagers fight each other with knives ending in a casualty.
RandomRavenboi@reddit
God fucking damn my generation is fucked.
Humble_Rich_4969@reddit
JACOB_WOLFRAM@reddit
Turkey banned discord not TikTok
Ecstatic-Ad6736@reddit
Teens use it alot
Alexgreat446@reddit
i noticed my romanian friends (16-17) do not use snapchat, while here in uk 80-90% of my school uses it. but yeah, theres no use for snap other than some streaks.
BlueShibe@reddit
I've heard in Germany Snapchat is very used but completely obscure in Italy for some reason
RightAsRain1@reddit
They should be banned worldwide.
alex_dark@reddit
Can he just ban violence and bullying?
seventhdayofdoom@reddit
What a stupid excuse to ban anything. Parents are so stupid for actually supporting these bans.
GumiB@reddit
It's not the way to address the issue at all. The way to do so is by ensuring that victims of violence and bullying get compensated, while perpetrators get punished. Give incentives to victims to report abuse so they will feel safe and protected. This is not going to solve the root cause.
standupguy1004@reddit
i think wee need to adress that the smartphones are not a toy but a tool that is not for use by the childrens , for me use of the smartphones should be limited only for those over the 16 y of age. also in the school should be zero tolerance for the smartphone use.
BrusiOto@reddit
I agree to a certain point... how can you compensate the kid who just got murdered? Since he is the victim...
31_hierophanto@reddit
Yeah, banning Tiktok isn't really the answer here. It's stopping bullying.
MegasKeratas@reddit
What will we do without the albanian ultranationalistic comments Eddi? Think of the consequences.
Phagewubs@reddit
Don’t worry. He doesn’t mean what he says and is only trying to divert attention from the devious things he does.
Arbo96al@reddit
Start worrying about your own?
GimiderKing@reddit
Why did he kill the boy?
Phagewubs@reddit
from his own words, he didn’t like how the boy (now dead) looked at him, started to threaten him - then the teacher made them settle it. Two days though, the eventual killer had a standoff with the now dead child and friends of each side got involved. The killer had premeditated and hid a knife somewhere outside the school and eventually stabbed his classmate during the fight.
Objective_Result_285@reddit
This is something I would expect from countries like Turkey & China.
RecentCharge9625@reddit
You expect China to ban a Chinese social media company? Playing the devil’s advocate here, not a sympathy for Rama, but every country should ban TikTok.
xClaydee@reddit
Fun fact: Tiktok is "banned" in China. The international version of tiktok we know is not used in China. They have their own version of tiktok called Douyin, which released was released 1 year before tiktok. Its the same app, just for chinese users.
RecentCharge9625@reddit
You live, you learn. Thanks for this
Objective_Result_285@reddit
I'm not writing about ban only on TikTok & Snapchat, but ban on any Social Media, which is common in authoritarian countries. As for TikTok, I don't know.
Affectionate-Row-710@reddit
This isn’t gonna change anything. Parents and teachers have to work closely with this children. There is a way to prevent this. Bullying isn’t an underground issue is a neglect issue.
T2DUnlimited@reddit
Banning never solves anything.
You can take a look at history and when governments decided to ban, it backfired. Still does in countries that ban different services.
Currently in Albania there’s a ban on betting. Guess what?! People still continue betting. They did while there was a communist regime.
Banning is like cutting off a path. People will find optional paths to get what they want.
It only shows the incompetence of governments in strategizing a solution for its people which lies in deep rooted backwards mentality and customs, generational traumas, negligence etc.
SirDoodThe1st@reddit
Impulsively, i’d agree, since i don’t like either app, but there’s probably a better way to solve this problem than mindlessly banning entire platforms
deathgang12@reddit
half the platform is filled with trash in albania. snapchat is an avenue for child predators everywhere. the only risk is that this shit is gonna transfer to instagram and then what, ban insta?
kruska345@reddit
awesome, everyone should do it
woolblock_@reddit
the internet has always been a source of bullying and violence. banning certain access points because of said reasons is just stupid. This the equivalent when back in the day they where trying to ban CS 1.6 in Germany.
I think though that there should be more moderation by parents and school staff involved to limit the amount of time kids spend on the internet and devices but like said before banning apps wont fix anything lol.
vesko26@reddit
just ban phones in schools stupid
123provaa@reddit
They have already done that.
SamiTheAnxiousBean@reddit
I don't agree with the reasons but banning TikTok and Snapchat is nothing but a positive
Fantastic_Camel_1577@reddit
The dumbest most annoying people mindlessly looking through tik tok videos on the bus. They can't even focus on the shitty short videos they just mindlessly scroll through. Always with the phone on full volume to annoy everyone else.
By law anyone seen publicly watching Tik Tok videos must be dry slapped in the face (using a large fish is optional but not compulsory). This is what a serious government would put in place.
eferalgan@reddit
TikTok is so dumb it should be banned for the sake of mental health
abandonedtulpa@reddit
I think he should just ban the internet if he really wants to prevent bullying
blitzdisease@reddit
Not internet but tiktok wouldn't be missed
Weekly_Structure9810@reddit
Albanians were swearing at each other and flirting at the earthquake app. Banning an app does nothing
rydolf_shabe@reddit
they aint gonna do shit
EdliA@reddit
Pathetic move from people that have no idea what to do.
HarvesterOfSorrow_88@reddit
I doubt TikTok really made him kill his classmate (If it weren't for TikTok he'd just find "inspiration" to do so in something else) but I see nothing wrong with banning TikTok and short form content in general due to the amount of sheer idiocy in it. I hope that Albania will succed in doing so and that other countries will follow. Go Albania!
Fickle-Message-6143@reddit
Snapchat weird, I can see TikTok being used but snap.
kotrogeor@reddit
People use Snapchat for sending nudes so a lot of stuff gets leaked from there.
Dry_Hyena_7029@reddit
If he bans tik tok, in reallity nobody lose anything.