An "entire regiment" of more than 1,000 soldiers left the 20th Guards Motor Rifle Division of the Russian Armed Forces stationed in Volgograd amid rising tensions in the Russia-Ukraine war, according to the Russian investigative outlet iStories.
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WhitishRogue@reddit
Individuals defecting is normal in a war. A platoon is less likely but still a normal occurance. An entire regiment is a whole other thing.
Is it possible these soldiers and their commanders feel there will be few consequences for desertion afterwards? Either they live elsewhere in Europe or they think the old guard of Russia won't be in power?
I know avoiding death on the battlefield is by far the worst outcome unless they end up in a gulag.
TrumpsGrazedEar@reddit
It is possible. However hunting down 1000+ people is going to be hard in the middle of the war. Sure they will catch some, but most should excape.
jimmycarr1@reddit
Sorry for my ignorance but where are they suspected to escape to, would it be Ukraine or Russia or somewhere else?
TrumpsGrazedEar@reddit
You mean 'anonimous source' saying germany aprehended somebody of ukrainian descent?
jimmycarr1@reddit
I don't mean anything I'm just asking you for more details
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Russia, supposedly.
jimmycarr1@reddit
Sorry for my ignorance but where are they suspected to escape to, would it be Ukraine or Russia or somewhere else?
TrumpsGrazedEar@reddit
You mean 'anonimous source' saying germany aprehended somebody of ukrainian descent?
Eexoduis@reddit
Honestly… from the stories (and video evidence), I wouldn’t want to be recaptured after desertion. Torture “motivation” camps. Russian paramilitaries literally raped the Donbas cowboy to death
MonsutAnpaSelo@reddit
excuse me what?
Eexoduis@reddit
The Donbas Cowboy
CatJamarchist@reddit
The 'Donbas cowbow' was an American who had been fighting in the region on Russia's side for a while. (Some) Russian soldiers reportedly got suspicious that he may be a spy or something - so they tortured and raped him to death.
dgradius@reddit
And he was on their side!
Reasonable-Ad4770@reddit
It's anonymous source from the outlet called iStories.
polymute@reddit (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IStories
A credible news source actually. I recommend anyone here in the comments to read up on them.
Bud_Fuggins@reddit
It's the Д-Team
Icy-Cry340@reddit
This is well in the “I want to believe” category lmao, but Newsweek has become famous for those in the course of this war. Probably a reaction to Economist spilling the beans on Ukraine’s 20% desertion rate.
Winjin@reddit
What's most interesting in this is that there's even high-ranking officers:
"858 contract soldiers, 150 mobilized soldiers, two conscripts, 26 junior officers, a major, two lieutenant colonels, and more."
So the contract soldiers are the ones that were paid really well to join, basically the local version of PMC. Then mobilized are the guys that were sent the draft papers and they joined. Conscripts are, well, conscripts, a couple of teenagers. 26 sergeants could very well be also contracts or mobilized. But a major and two colonels - now that's really interesting.
I wonder where'd they go. Did they try to disperse back into Russia? Did they go to the Ukrainian side and give up \ join the Russian Legion? Would they try to reach Transnistria and go further? I've heard it's pretty much closed that way, though.
Plus desertion is hard, now they won't be able to use their credit cards and I'm not even sure if they keep the IDs. I think the passports are kept by the officials until they return, instead they have the "Military ID" so... Just how hard the situation must be to desert, knowing full well how complicated it's gonna be after that.
Stromovik@reddit
Contract soldiers are like every soldier in US Army or Marines.
Looking up division name gives 1 article in Russian about desertion. According to it most soldiers simply went home. And it used term СОЧ meaning they didnt leave a combat unit which would be desertion.
Probably the number is 10 times lower. This division had its commander killed in 2022 thougth.
Winjin@reddit
The Western media could be lying too. Or the Russian. Like, I don't think they've admitted to the explosion of the rocket silo to this day. But the Western has had their fair share of "Russia has ran out of tanks" too.
TraditionalGap1@reddit
26 junior officers would be lieutenants and captains, the Russians rely far more on their commissioned officer corps for low level leadership than most Western forces.
Winjin@reddit
Yeah, could be true. In that case it's even more of a fuckup, since these are career officers with at least 5-7 years.
I looked it up: you have to leave the Officer School as Senior L, then at least 6 years to become Captain, then at least 4 years to become Major. That's someone with 10+ years of a career
fajadada@reddit
Good Luck Ukraine I truly hope you prevail against your invaders. Hopefully the Russian army will quit participating in mass suicide attacks to avoid Putin being embarrassed in his “Three Day War”
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