What trope in UK television shows annoys you?
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For me, it is in UK police dramas (Frost was infamous for this) when a detective gets angry that a suspect gets away because said detective didn’t follow procedure.
There is an episode where a lawyer lectures Frost about this with regard to a vulnerable adult that Frost is trying to pin something on. Of course said lawyer has to be shown later to be corrupt so that Frost is forever right.
Everyone is entitled to innocent until proven guilty.
bettingthoughts@reddit
People being rude to police when they come to ask them questions about a major crime: “look can it wait im really busy” as they open up a cafe or tighten a wheel nut or something.
the_dudefather@reddit
"I've brought you a coffee, there's clearly nothing actually in the cup"
"Thanks, I'll just resume this walk and talk conversation while I lightly wave it to and fro, so the viewers know I'm holding an empty cardboard cup"
friends_with_salad_@reddit
The year is 866 AD, King Aethelred is on the throne, everyone is caked in mud and dressed in rags, but the lead looks like he's just come from PureGym, his rags contour every muscle perfectly, and he has a perfect grade 1 fade, no stubble or chin fuzz and no blade scratches, and perfect refrigerator-white teeth.
paolog@reddit
And speaks modern English.
(To be fair, no one would want to watch a film where everyone spoke Old English and was subtitled, and it would be a pain to make a well.)
Katharinemaddison@reddit
I liked the way in Vikings they started off and occasionally went back to people speaking Norse or Anglo Saxon, and then switched to modern English.
I did wonder if it would have been quite as impossible for the two to understand each other at all as was made out though.
MuskieNotMusk@reddit
The TV show Vikings does this pretty well
fishercrow@reddit
i would want to watch a film in Old English with subtitles - partly because id know that if they were so focused on accuracy as to translate everything, everything else would be on point.
tinned_peaches@reddit
And the women have clean shaven armpits
Terrible-Prior732@reddit
and clean hair!
jflb96@reddit
Clean-ish hair would’ve been pretty common, it’s just that the main soap was lye so you kinda made do with washing your hair once a month and brushing the worst of the grease out into your hat that would be washed with the rest of your underwear
AnselaJonla@reddit
Tbf, the idea that hair needs to be washed multiple times a week is a modern thing, and it's ruinous to the average person's hair. The more often you wash your hair the more you need to wash it because you teach your scalp to overproduce the natural oils of your hair in order to replace what you keep washing away.
My hair is healthier when it's only washed once a month. I just went two months this time, because I was unable to shower for a month due to injury, and it wasn't a limp greasy mess by the end.
starlinguk@reddit
That doesn't work when you have very thin hair.
BRIStoneman@reddit
And nobody is wearing hats.
IansGotNothingLeft@reddit
On this (and I'm not sure if it's historically accurate but it feels impossible to me); They're all set up at camp before the battle and the kings have a fucking 4 post bed, wooden chests and dining table set in their tent.
Genuinely asking, was this actually a thing??!!!!
WaspsForDinner@reddit
Was a thing since at least the Romans, and was still a thing into the early 20th century - see: campaign furniture.
IansGotNothingLeft@reddit
Thank you for the wording. I'm going to do some reading. It's honestly something that's bothered me for years whenever I watch a historical drama.
aredditusername69@reddit
This actually was a thing, going back a long long time.
theivoryserf@reddit
Glamping.
GraceEllis19@reddit
This one always gets me - even people who had physical jobs would’ve been lean rather than bulky and would’ve built muscles where they needed them based on their job rather than an all over ripped look. They were all riddled with parasites so a lot of nutrition would’ve been lost even for those with good diets. No one would’ve had visible abs.
Thendisnear17@reddit
Looking at Greek statues you can see abs. Not saying they were representative of the average Greek, but some had them.
When I looked most ripped was when I was on the dole, with no money. I didn't have enough money for food and was training a lot.
ramxquake@reddit
They would have been based on athletes.
TheKnightsTippler@reddit
What annoys me is when all the women are wearing flawless modern make up, and the men all look greasy as fuck.
YourLocalMosquito@reddit
The women all have smooth armpits and smooth legs.
eletricmojo@reddit
Also the female lead has modern makeup, perfect hair and legs perfectly shaved.
harping_along@reddit
I know it's apocalyptic, not historical. But all the gals in the walking dead wearing tank tops with perfectly shaved underarms when the men had big raggedy beards (to show they couldn't groom themselves, specifically, on top of all the dirt), drove me absolutely fucking insane. Are you not brave enough to show underarm hair? Really?
d3gu@reddit
God forbid women in media are shown to have gone through puberty aside from boobies and bums.
Have you noticed that even women's shaving adverts show them shaving a smooth leg? They've only just started showing red fluid rather than blue on period product adverts.
AffectionateAir2856@reddit
The most infuriating part being that the Saxon courts of the time would have been pretty lavish, rich people would have been dressed to the nines, and the danes that were invading were so polite and well washed that one of the key complaints from the Saxons was that they'd entice their women away too easily. True story.
BRIStoneman@reddit
Sadly it's not. It's a claim solely from a 12th Century Chronicle that's hundreds of years removed from events and is stated more as a 'civilising' justification for the Norman Conquest than actual history. In the same way that contemporary chronicles told all manner of wild tales about the Irish to justify the invasion there.
Interestingly, in 1066, Norman sources instead criticised the English for being too clean, saying that nobody who spent as long as the English making sure their long hair and beards were washed, brushed, braided and oiled could possibly be good warriors. We also know from 9th Century archaeology that the typical Saxon was probably quite fastidious about their appearance, given just how many combs we have.
Slanahesh@reddit
Hey, Uhtred is just a cut above the rest okay.
Accurate_Prompt_8800@reddit
The one I find annoying and overused is: The maverick detective who ruins their personal life but is brilliant at their job, so all is forgiven.
This is the detective who’s always shown drinking too much, estranged from their family, pushing away loved ones, and alienating colleagues, yet they’re such a genius at solving crimes that their behavior is excused or even celebrated. Think Luther, or Prime Suspect (though Prime Suspect at least critiques this trope a bit).
It is tiresome as it glorifies the idea that personal self-destruction is the price of professional brilliance. It’s as if the show is saying, Sure, this character is a terrible parent / friend/ partner, but look how good they are at catching killers! It also gets repetitive when nearly every show has some version of this tortured, self-destructive genius archetype instead of exploring healthier, more well-rounded characters.
The worst part is that it often comes at the expense of their colleagues or loved ones, who are portrayed as obstacles or nags for trying to hold the protagonist accountable for their actions. It’s an overused and overly romanticised trope that could do with a serious shake-up.
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
I would love someone to make a series of Guido Brunetti from the books by Donna Leon. He loves his wife and children and adores Italian food. Despite being such a happy guy, he's brilliant at detecting and the plots don't suffer for it.
His wife is a University lecturer. His colleagues and staff are brilliantly drawn. Sadly as it's set in Venice it would probably be prohibitively expensive.
HotRabbit999@reddit
Isn't this mental montalbano too? He's a happy guy eno loves eating but is great at solving crimes
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
Dear Salvo has a somewhat unsettled love life though, doesn't he? Not an unhappy one though, it seems.
HotRabbit999@reddit
It's more he doesn't want the same things as his partners iirc. They want marriage & a long term commitment, he just likes to eat. It's not unhappy, they just disagree in what they want from the relationship.
islandhopper37@reddit
German television has done this. I quite like the films, but I'm not sure they are available in English.
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
Oh, brilliant, I'll look out for it. I wonder if there are any clips on YouTube?
fartingbeagle@reddit
Aurelio Zen was good as well. Cancelled by Controller Cohen for being 'too white '.
AccidentalSirens@reddit
He didn't have a happy marriage, though.
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
Yes, very irritating.
alrighttreacle11@reddit
Maybe they could reshoot it in Doncaster that ahold get the price down a tad
GreatBigBagOfNope@reddit
Could do it in Birmingham? Venice of the North? Sure it would only take a few bits of pasta lying around to pass
Dr_Turb@reddit
That's a good call! I love those books for the picture of Venice and Venetians that she paints; stripped of the touristic (and largely treating the tourists as irrelevant). And Brunetti is a well- rounded, honest and upright copper, who sometimes has to torture his conscience over very small twists of the law. His low-level war against the boss and his cronies, aided by the enigmatic secretary, is just how I imagine life in many offices.
However, even here there are sometimes glimpses of corruption in high places, which is another trope of TV detective shows. Although for all I know it is entirely accurate, in Italy (although of course impossible in the UK).
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
The office setup is so brilliant.
Charliesmum97@reddit
I'd argue that both DCI Barnabys from Midsomer Murders are happily married with a stable home life. It's the rest of the county that's full of unhappy, cheating spouses.
Lady_of_Lomond@reddit
True! And there's a cute dog, too!
Fantastic_Picture384@reddit
Colombo is the opposite to this and its amazing how little it's picked up. He has a loving family, his colleagues respect him and he never has to go outside the lines. He uses his intelligence to solve the case.
NorthernSoul1977@reddit
"...just one more thing..."
Beatnuki@reddit
Bonus points for pretending to not be intelligent so he exasperates the arrogant perp of the week so much they get distracted and/or angry and make crucial mistakes.
BarNo3385@reddit
The issue is how you write a good story without this.
Story is fundamentally about conflict.
The "tortured genius" can always catch the bad guy but still experience conflict they "lose" by failing in other areas.
Imagine House or Sherlock if they were just nice well rounded professionals. How boring would that show be? They come into work, hold some sensible meetings, quietly encourage their staff, solve the murder or illness, then go home and have a low key family dinner with their well adjusted spouse and averagely successful younger children.
That's not a show anyone wants to watch 6 seasons of.
GlasgowGunner@reddit
Surely solving a murder can be interesting in itself without the detective being a tortured genius?
namtabmai@reddit
Columbo managed it, granted you never saw his wife so you only had his word on their relationship but it came across as solid and loving.
Closest Poirot came to being tortured is was his requirement for order. Similarly with Miss Marple, Tommy and Tuppence, Jessica Fletcher, Jonathon Creek, Father Brown, Nancy Drew, Veronica Mars, etc.
WaspsForDinner@reddit
Clearly the short-lived Mrs Columbo passed you by. Married to Capt. Janeway, no less.
futuresong@reddit
I'd take Veronica Mars off that list, things get pretty dark for her.
Acceptable-Art-9649@reddit
Like Ludwig recently.
InternalBumblebee7@reddit
That was the original Tom Barnaby in Midsomer Murders. Lovely wife and daughter, barely any problems at home.
Dimac99@reddit
Apart from the fact Joyce discovered so many dead bodies and knew so many murder victims personally that she probably spent years on antidepressants and heavy duty sleeping pills? 🤣
LadyFinduillas@reddit
Now that is only a TV thing, it didn't happen in the original books. The other thing that's very different in the books is that Troy is not particularly nice at all, they definitely changed his character for TV.
Dimac99@reddit
I'm glad they changed Troy, but Scott was a bit of a dick. I hated him first time around, not even sure I kept watching during his time until he was replaced. Maybe they made him a bit more like the OG Troy, although he wasn't as bad as I remembered when I watched it again recently. (Yay for ITV3!)
JeopardizeTheBeans23@reddit
Let's be honest, poor old Joyce Barnaby joins your local theatre/art/rambling club and you'd best be running for the motherclucking hills
Charliesmum97@reddit
OMG I just said that in a comment before I saw this one. Both Barnabys are happy in their home lives.
mangonel@reddit
You might be right, but Mrs. Columbo doesn’t think the case is as simple as you do
strangepurplefox@reddit
Funny you mention Sherlock, because I think Elementary handled this trope well. He is a tortured genius, but multiple other characters call him out on his bullshit (including a very satisfying punch to the face at one point), & it's not portrayed as nagging. There are also occasions where he faces consequences for his behaviour.
sprucay@reddit
Yeah, but Luther at least is fucking cool. I know what you mean though
LFC90cat@reddit
Is he? Wears that same blazer jacket that probably stinks as he sprints in it often. Drives a beaten car, never exercises (so it's a miracle he's in the great shape he is)
CareerMilk@reddit
I think they jokingly gave him a rack of all the same jacket in a later episode.
Ok-West3039@reddit
I think you should watch Cracker, it has this exact type of boring archetype And but it does it brilliantly and really makes you question how “likeable” someone like this is.
Ok-West3039@reddit
I think you should watch Cracker, it has this exact type of boring archetype but it does it brilliantly and really makes you question how “likeable” someone like this is.
APiousCultist@reddit
The Korean film Memories of Murder has a pretty great subversion of this.
radiorentals@reddit
I would say that it applies less to Prime Suspect than others because the 'maverick' isn't necessarily doing things the wrong way or outside of the lines, just the informal lines that were drawn by the institutional sexism she was constantly coming up against.
UberLurka@reddit
If you have not seen "A Touch of Cloth" by Charlie Brooker, you must see it.
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
How about Pie in the Sky? Crabb is a great chef and still solves the cases.
Dimac99@reddit
I do love Pie in the Sky and Henry and Margaret's relationship, especially as an older couple with no children. Both with rich, fulfilling lives, both together and separately. The only problem is I'm hungry by the middle of every episode. And again by the end!
TallFriendlyGinger@reddit
Not a TV series, but the game Disco Elysium explored this trope and dissects it pretty well imo. You play a detective whose personal life is so awful he's an alcoholic who's gone off the deep end and had a breakdown severe enough to forget who he is. You can solve the case but in the end your actions really affect your colleagues, friends, and relationships.
Bigluce@reddit
Ugh. Cracker.
Big_Daymo@reddit
This is why I loved Bodyguard. Richard Maddens character is dead set on catching the terrorists and saving people but his resolution by the end is that he's really mentally fucked and needs to get some damn therapy.
tinycrabclaws@reddit
Have you watched River? If you haven’t, I highly recommend it.
petantic@reddit
That series lost me when they had a missing suspect with a very distinctive scarred face and even after a television appeal with photo-fit, no one came forward to ID him.
Thomasinarina@reddit
I've JUST started watching this, currently on episode 2 and I'm already hooked.
Big_Daymo@reddit
Such a spectacular mini series, the creators really knew the emotional story they wanted to tell.
SCATOL92@reddit
There's an episode of inside number 9 called "Nine Lives Kat" that explores this trope so well in an irreverent way. Highly recommended
Rev_Biscuit@reddit
Cracker
Tuarangi@reddit
Creating "tension" by standing there like a lemon in silence after saying 'and the winner is' as music plays in the background and the camera jumps around for 10 seconds. Great British Menu, Bake Off, Four in a Bed all guilty amongst others.
If you want tension, have the result in an envelope that they can't open until they have said 'is'
MJLDat@reddit
Chris Tarrant started that a long way back on Capital Radio.
Tuarangi@reddit
He needs a slap with a wet fish or a visit from the phantom pie flinger then
Charliesmum97@reddit
I counted once. There is a TEN SECOND interval between Tess saying some version of 'and dancing next week are...' and actually naming the couple. TEN SECONDS.
paolog@reddit
The results show is 42 minutes long. Here's how it would go without the faff.
Tess: "Hello and welcome to Strictly: the Results. Through to next week are (reads out list at normal speed). That means that A and B and C and D, you're in the Dance-Off. A and B, you go first, then C and D.*
A and B repeat their dance
C and D repeat their dance
Tess: "Judges, based on that dance-off alone, who do you want to save?"
Anton: "A and B."
Craig: "A and B."
Motsi: "A and B."
Shirley: "Yep."
Tess: "C and D, you're through to next week."
group hug, "Keep Dancing!", roll credits
The dances are 90 seconds long, so I make that about 5 minutes, the Beeb could squeeze in a while other programme, and save money because the Sunday show wouldn't even need Claudia Winkleman.
Tuarangi@reddit
I feel that box / banker show on channel 4 could be a lot more efficient too just by going 1-20 in sequence instead of pretending there is any tactics to it
Ranoni18@reddit
Whenever the news come to the north they always chose to visit the roughest areas and seek out the roughest toothless individuals they can find to interview.
Icy_Aardvark9549@reddit
Don't have to look far then?
TheDawiWhisperer@reddit
they really do, as a northerner it bugs me that the people they interview always make us look like simpletons, especially in a room full of posh southerners.
i was watching a program about Shannon Matthews a couple of months ago and they had a girl who was one of Shannon's friends, so that'd made her mid-late 20s...i swear to god she looked 45.
TheDawiWhisperer@reddit
Yeah I'm from Wakey so not that far away...lots of very similar estates all around the place reaklyt
Delicious-Cut-7911@reddit
I live 2 miles from where Shannon lived. That estate is the worst in the area.
Silent-Detail4419@reddit
That makes me feel better. I am mid-40s, but I have been told on many occasions I look early-30s. I wish I was that would mean the fact that I still have a completely blank CV wouldn't be so catastrophic. Would really, REALLY love it if the people would STOP fucking me over and let me live.
I keep telling myself that, if I look younger, then perhaps my real age isn't the same as my chronological age. Someone posted something to X about a woman who was 60, but claimed to have the body of a 21-year-old (couldn't read the article as it was paywalled, think it was The Times).
chmath80@reddit
Buried in her basement, probably.
Jolly_Constant_4913@reddit
Hang on a minute mate, I was interviewed on one of those 😅
LosWitchos@reddit
An old job of mine was to do vox pops but "find the right sort of people so I can fit the newspaper narrative". Yeah it happens all the time.
Sidebottle@reddit
Asking a couple of 'random' people there persons opinion on a topic always irritated me. I get trying to humanise some stories, but most stories really don't need it.
Sister_Ray_@reddit
People selected for vox pops are invariably dim witted morons lmao
InfectedFrenulum@reddit
SPEAK YOUR BRAINS from The Day Today
original_oli@reddit
What is the letter of the law?
forfar4@reddit
https://youtu.be/yWWzFwDTVz4?si=FWpg2bzWfh4fmxv1
Abjam_Gabriel@reddit
J
artrald-7083@reddit
There's a wonderful outtake somewhere where they tried a vox pop on Jesus Green in Cambridge, and this random sunbather they asked somewhat awkwardly revealed that he was qualified to teach the subject they were asking about at university level.
lizziexo@reddit
Reminds me of this serendipitous moment! The way his face lights up makes me so happy
Particular-Zone7288@reddit
or are "selected" randoms that just so happen to parrot the narritive that sky news wants to forward.
Weird how that works
muddleagedspred@reddit
The "feckin' wanking bankers" fella was pretty spot-on, mind.
Dimac99@reddit
I always cheer for the single person they put in for "balance", while the other 3 or 4 interviewees talk ignorant shite. Unfortunately very prevalent in Scottish news when the topic is even mildly ScotGov related.
Remarkable-fainting@reddit
ask a stupid question get a stupid answer, a bit of Fry and Laurie
Kientha@reddit
I detest vox pops with a passion. You're not going to get a representative sample of the local community because most people will be at work at the time they're doing the vox pop and the first they've likely heard of what they're being asked is when they're asked so they won't be informed and the interviewer likely hasn't explained it well!
forfar4@reddit
"The Day Today" ripped vox pops to pieces regularly and hysterically.
forfar4@reddit
https://youtu.be/yWWzFwDTVz4?si=FWpg2bzWfh4fmxv1
NisusWettus@reddit
The use of them is disingenuous too. It's framed as opinions of normal people supporting the theme of the report, whereas actually it's the reverse - they're cherry picked to back up the opinion the report is pushing.
BeardedBaldMan@reddit
They also cause people's brain to dissolve. A colleague did one when a royal baby was born. She's an intelligent person who is normally excellent at communicating.
We replayed her bumbling idiocy in the office so many times that month.
R0gu3tr4d3r@reddit
I find them hilarious, my Mrs hates them too...6.20pm, nightly rant at the TV.
ric0n@reddit
Dowdy kitchen man
MadWifeUK@reddit
They used to do this all the time in NI after a bomb. All it was was a load of different people saying "Shackin," or "Terrible, so it is." Like they were ever going to find someone who said "Did you see it? It was a beezer! All the windies on both sides of the street out and people out of jobs, pure dead brilliant!"
InternationalRide5@reddit
They probably found a few, but would never broadcast it.
budget-lampshade@reddit
"That should be interesting for meatballs."
GrandDukeOfNowhere@reddit
The thing with vox pops is you can always interview 100 people and broadcast the 3 that say what you want them to say
BadBassist@reddit
Absolutely the lowest form of news
DoricEmpire@reddit
Or when it’s Scotland it’s always always Glasgow. Once in a blue moon you get Edinburgh or a farmer in a croft who’s based in McAnywhere, “highlands”
daddy-dj@reddit
Same with Wales - although the UK news channels hardly even bother talking about Wales, but if they do it's Cardiff and very occasionally Swansea. Like there's more to Wales than those 2 places, ffs.
Greggybread@reddit
Yeah, I get that. Everything in England, and arguably the UK is based on how it impacts London. Nowhere else seems to count, unless as OP here said it's some sort of poverty safari.
DankAF94@reddit
I'd argue there's a bit of a bigger bubble that'd encase the likes of Oxford and Cambridge.
But yes. Anything further than the home counties definitely gets treated like it's another country.
Fossilhund@reddit
Apparently the UK has "Flyover Country".
FloydEGag@reddit
And in Wales it’s always Cardiff, maybe Swansea if they’re feeling adventurous. A nuclear explosion could take out half of Gwynedd and the rest of the country would never hear about it
Common_Lime_6167@reddit
I remember when they announced the change in pension age to 68, they went to a pub in a part of Glasgow where the life expectancy was below 68 and asked this unhealthy looking middle aged guy in a football shirt how he felt about that given he would most likely be dead by then 😆
Late-Champion8678@reddit
What?! wtf 😂
ErskineLoyal@reddit
Malky.. A Malky Frazer or razor....😁
Beancounter_1968@reddit
Did they get given the Malky ?
younevershouldnt@reddit
Oof, at least the viewers probably couldn't understand his response.
(Joking, some of my best friends are weegies)
CaptainMexicano@reddit
That's fucking brutal 😂
jermysteensydikpix@reddit
Sounds like how they treat Appalachia in the US.
Fossilhund@reddit
Yup. 😥
Amphibian-Silver@reddit
Conversely, a vox pop in rural Oxfordshire will be the poshest, richest cunt in a Barbour jacket, despite the fact that there's a sizable population of people who look and behave like the characters from This Country.
Illustrious-Turn-177@reddit
Your mother just likes getting on tv.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
BBC NI has entered the chat.
let's go live to the streets of Belfast to see what local residents think of the new primary school
Here comes William from the Shankill
Well ah want fer till say that we don't want this new school. Those childer are Nat welcome. They can go to skool somewhere else we don't want them here it's our tradition y'know?
fuggerdug@reddit
Usual from a covered market.
AnUdderDay@reddit
It's not just the north. Voxpop in general always have the most sarcastic version of dotard.
Jazzlike_Standard416@reddit
They've probably interviewed 15-20 people in order to get the 3-4 that they show on the news which fit their preferred narrative.
sbdart31@reddit
They usually do it at about 11am on a Tuesday and then seem surprised that they can't find anyone more representative of the areas, that's because those people are at work and can't sit outside a shopping centre drinking cans from a plastic bag at that time
KezzaK2608@reddit
And they're usually pissed and/or stoned.
"Christ! Where did they find them?" Is the usual response in our house.
DaveBeBad@reddit
There is a reason for spoons to exist after all
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
The spoon is an illusion.
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
The spoon is an illusion.
SirPooleyX@reddit
I hate the convoluted way some character cannot use their mobile phone to get them out of a situation.
breadcrumbsmofo@reddit
Every time I’m watching a show set in a school, just the complete lack of safeguarding procedures. I’ll be sitting there like “this would never happen”, “what has just happened there is illegal”, “that’s a hell of a CPOMS log.” Like, there is just no one safeguarding the kids in TV shows and if there were, half the plot would fall apart.
Teembeau@reddit
This reminds me of Edgar Wright interviewing policeman for Hot Fuzz and they all commented about the lack of paperwork in cop shows.
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
I heard there was also a lack of dual welding shotguns which is why Edgar Wright added that in
douggieball1312@reddit
Every TV news story about universities or students featuring an image of students jumping or hats being thrown in the air. Every story about obesity featuring footage of random fat people in the street filmed from the neck down.
The whole 'tortured detective with troubled home life' motif in cop shows has also been done to death and needs to end. There must be more fictional TV detective inspectors in one ITV drama lineup in one week than there has ever been in real life.
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
I'm right with you, whenever they talk about obesity I want to see skinny people playing basketball
mr-seamus@reddit
My other half pointed out to me whenever the local news does the annual kids passing their A-levels thing they predominantly favour teenage girls in the filler footage to teenage boys. Her theory is because the camera operator is likely to be a man.
wildcharmander1992@reddit
It's because girls mature faster than boys
Doesn't matter if a boy is a bit of a dick or a A grade student who's never stepped a foot wrong in his life
You shove a camera in his face and say you're from the BBC in his head all he's thinking is
I could swear right now, I could swear right now, I should swear right now, it would be so funny if I swore right now, I should do what the grab her by the pussy guy did and just swear right now
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
To be fair, I'm 40 and I'm thinking about swearing. Had a work Christmas party photo last year, they had to Photoshop out my middle finger
radiorentals@reddit
It's a bit less true for TV but I'm sure Private Eye has a feature every year mocking the tabloid press for their photos of teenage girls looking at exam results or celebrating.
DameKumquat@reddit
Blonde long-haired girls. Ideally twins.
TheGreatBatsby@reddit
Lesbians. I'm just watching.
Nearby-Percentage867@reddit
“Ok, can we do that jump for the camera just one more time…”
racloves@reddit
I believe this could also be because statistics show girls score higher than boys, so they might want to show people who are likely to score higher
DankAF94@reddit
They did that at my school. They only interviewed 4 or 5 girls in total.
We had one black girl and a couple of Asian girls in our year (it's a Catholic school in a fairly white town) and all three of them were included
younevershouldnt@reddit
As someone who used to cover these, my experience was that the schools almost always chose the pupils.
And yes, they knew what they were doing.
mr-seamus@reddit
That makes it worse in a way. :/
younevershouldnt@reddit
Yep, and I feel slightly complicit in this low level pimping of pretty teenage exam passers.
PenaltyAdditional968@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
Applies to lots of news segments in different domains, not just crime.
Hot_and_Foamy@reddit
The girls usually look happier about their results. Boys look, grunt at their friends then skulk off.
islandhopper37@reddit
The "back office" part of police stations have long, straight, dimly-lit corridors with lots of grey exposed concrete (very handy for "walk and talk" scenes). The detectives' offices all have subdued lighting. Interview suites seem to be medium-sized rooms in the basement, also dimly-lit, while the main investigator stands and watches through a large one-way window as his colleagues interview a suspect.
tinned_peaches@reddit
When someone gets knocked out then wake up fine a few hours later without severe life changing brain damage.
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
That's not a specific UK issue though
Charliesmum97@reddit
There are 3 kinds of 'getting hit on the head' in crime dramas. There's the 'get pushed backwards, whack you're head, instantly dead' or, the 'oh, it's you' right before getting bludgoned in the head and killed (or snuck up on from behind). If you're the hero, however, you are only rendered unconscious and wake up perfectly fine with no concussion or anything. Occasionally there's the 'hit on the head and left in a coma for a certain amount of time, but then waking up just in time to name the murderer.'
islandhopper37@reddit
And of course when they wake up, they can remember all the details of the attack...
raspberryamphetamine@reddit
I love it when Midsomer Murders does the sneak-up! Killer’s POV and the victim turns round “oh, it’s you! What are you doing here?” Cue the black gloves and murdering.
Dimac99@reddit
Followed immediately by the strings and the theramin. Bloody love that theme tune!
NorthernSoul1977@reddit
That's super-bad for you.
Comfortable-Pace3132@reddit
Extensive fighting with several heavy blows to the head and they just go home and clean up the cut on their lip and carry on with their day
eleanor_dashwood@reddit
It’s usually on the cheekbone isn’t it?
Vivian_I-Hate-You@reddit
Person gets the living snot beaten out of their face...nothing, no black eyes, no lost teeth, no broken nose. In my eyes it somewhat glorifies violence
knight-under-stars@reddit
Contestants dragging out the answers to blindingly obvious questions on quiz shows.
I know they are encouraged to do so for entertainment's sake but it is just pure filler and makes the contestants look like morons.
Brickie78@reddit
What colour is the sky? A: Red. B: Blue. C: Orange
"Well .. let's see. Red? No, I don't think it's red. No. So it's between orange and blue for me, Jeremy. Let me think. Blue sounds familiar. The phrase "blue sky" sounds right to me. Orange? Hmmmm. There's that song. Marmalade skies. Marmalade is orange so ... No. No, I'm going with blue, Jeremy. The answer is B: blue"
You're sure?
"Yes"
You want to lock in that answer?
"Yes"
You're locking in B: Blue as your answer. You don't think it's A: red or C: orange? Last chance.
"No it's B: blue Jeremy"
Well, we'll find out ... after this break!
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
I'll never be on a quiz show for this reason. I'll just go "blue". Then they'll say "but can you waffle on to take up more time" and I'll say "sure, it's blue"
Biscuit-Box@reddit
If they're going through every single answer like that, the crew better make sure they're listening out for conveniently-timed coughing...
Bownzinho@reddit
The National Lottery Show which Dale Winton hosted was easily the worst offender for this. Contestants had a story for every single question and he would help them drag it out forever. It was infuriating to watch.
DankAF94@reddit
Whole reason I stopped watching Pointless was because it felt like Alexander spent more time asking them questions about the contestants lives more so than actually playing the damn game.
Just do a quick intro for each person at the start then leave it. You'd probably be able to fit another round in at that rate
No-Bat3159@reddit
Bradley Walsh! And his incessant chirping in to the answers - I do not CARE if you think its "A" dickhead
HeavyCovenant@reddit
I can't believe The Chase is still a thing and I can't believe people watch it every single day.
It is so tired now.
ImThatBitchNoodles@reddit
Used to watch it at night, when I was working in care homes. That and Naked Attraction, laughing our butts off at how ridiculous both shows were.
DoricEmpire@reddit
They even have a channel dedicated to it - Challenge TV
No-Bat3159@reddit
My friend needs routines lol and the chase is part of that routine. It makes me irrationally angry
SarkyMs@reddit
Just ask more questions, make each one a fiver not a tenner if you are worried about budget.
Anaptyso@reddit
"Oh no, the top secret whatever it is we need is on the evil company's server! What will we do?"
"Don't worry, I'll hack the serve"
TAPPY TAPPY TAP FOR FIVE MINUTES
"Done, here's the exact bit of information you need".
FFS, it does not work like that. More realistic hacking would be clicking a couple of times to start running a script, waiting for hours, and then finding out that it didn't work anyway.
Even if you do have access, data is complicated. I've spent hours this afternoon trying to get a bit of data I need out of some logs that I have full access to. No need to actually hack anything, but it's still a time consuming process to understand the data structures, interpret encoded values, tweak searching/filtering functions etc.
Alpine_Newt@reddit
I wouldn't recommend you watch the film 'Hackers'. TAPPY TAPPY TAP is about 90% of the movie.
Spiderinahumansuit@reddit
To be fair, there are scenes in that movie of them doing social engineering to trick people into giving them access, too.
islandhopper37@reddit
Quite a lot of social engineering in "Sneakers" as well. But in parts the film also sends up the "using cunning social engineering tricks or high tech equipment to get results" trope. The main protagonists are working out how to secretly enter a particular building. Then, one of them manages to obtain a complete set of full scale paper copies of the construction drawings/floor plans of the building they want to get into. When the others ask him how he got them, he just tells them he went to the local council's building control department and asked for a copy of them.
Phat-Lines@reddit
That’s because your tappy tappy tapping
Every decent hacker knows it’s CLACKEDY CLACKEDY CLACK with a green monitor with binary on it
FloydEGag@reddit
Thirty seconds later ‘I’m in!’
Busy_Mortgage4556@reddit
Hacker they just found in a youth hostel: "This is complicated, they must be using some form of code I've never seen before."
"But you can de-cypher it right?"
Hacker they just found in a youth hostel: "I can try, but this is trickier than I thought" Click. "I'm in."
Duck_Person1@reddit
It's faster if you wear a black trench coat and sunglasses
Dimac99@reddit
I remember a scene in NCIS where Abby realised she was being hacked and she and McGee both had to counter the hack in real time - by using the same keyboard at literally the same time to type their different bits of code. Like the computer could some how magically sense who was pressing each key and which different line to assign the key presses to. I think the director thought it worked like two people playing piano together?
I was screaming at the telly.
My mum: "It's not real, you know."
To bloody right, it isn't!
Soggy_Parking1353@reddit
You mean you don't keep your secret plans in a folder marked Secret Plans which only contains the secret plans the protagonist is seeking and no other secret plans?
SpaceMonkeyAttack@reddit
Or ringing someone at the company and saying "Hi, this is Dave from IT, we need your password to install more RAM on your laptop."
Remarkable-Ad155@reddit
Not finishing (or, in a lot of cases, even starting) a drink.
Main character pops into the pub, orders a drink, has a chat, maybe finds out some key information then turns face and leaves. You never seem to see somebody go 'ok, mate, I'll just finish my pint then head off' or 'no thanks, love, I was actually just looking for x'.
See also: just hanging up the phone when the important conversation has finished without saying goodbye or anything.
PuzzleheadedLow4687@reddit
Worse than not finishing a drink is when someone still has about 1/6th of a pint left, and their mate says "fancy another" and walks off back to the bar with the unfinished glass.
That's probably about a quid's worth of beer!
There was a scene in Mr Bates vs the Post Office where this happened and it was very distracting.
Expensive-Estate-851@reddit
If it's my round I'll ask who wants what and take my dregs back to the bar to finish whilst queuing
PuzzleheadedLow4687@reddit
Sure, but you don't take other people's unfinished drinks with you...
PippyHooligan@reddit
Same with cigarettes. Lighting a cigarette to establish character/mood. Then taking one drag, waving it about a bit, then stubbing it out/flicking it away.
Rev_Biscuit@reddit
£16 a pack!! Not a chance
PippyHooligan@reddit
Exactly! Tobacco doesn't just grow on trees, y'know!
theycallmewhoosh@reddit
r/technicallythetruth
guycg@reddit
When are we going to get a show when a main character looks into his baccy pouch, realises he's basically out , so instead pulls a half smoked fag out of a wet ash tray in a pub beer garden while attempting to be innocuous. Smoking it till the absolute tip until it burns his wrinkled fingers.
TV shows really give too much credit that adults who smoke are kinda cool.
froegi@reddit
Ahh black books is good for that
guycg@reddit
True actually, probably Royle Family as well.
PippyHooligan@reddit
Exactly. They need to write that scene into the next series of Bridgerton.
FloydEGag@reddit
Yeah exactly, as a former smoker it still drives me mad! No smoker is abandoning a fag after a couple of puffs (unless the bus they’re waiting for comes along)
WaspsForDinner@reddit
It's okay - they rarely pay for them either.
United_Common_1858@reddit
There is a reason for this. It's the same as characters never using etiquette on a telephone.
Audiences routinely reject it since we don't want total realism. It is also extremely difficult to justify leaving that 10 seconds in multiple times in multiple scenes when the editing process is so ruthless that you need to cut filmed footage by 1/2 to 2/3.
Is an editor really going to cut a great scene of an actor showing emotion but leave in 8 seconds of another actor saying "let me just finish my lunch I just ordered" and sipping hos drink.
Audiences don't actually want it; it tests terribly.
A_Jesus_woman@reddit
Also everyone having everyone else's phone number, even characters who hate one another (even in the days before WhatsApp groups).
superkinks@reddit
Yeh, why is there no “alright then mate, see you later, bye, yeh, yeh, bye”?
radiorentals@reddit
I hate it too, but it's because it's essentially wasted time. It doesn't add anything to the narrative or drive the story forward but takes time to shoot, time to digitize, time to edit, time to colour correct, time to online, time to dub/mix etc. It may not seem like it but if you're pushed for time either narratively or linearly those extra seconds really start to add up across the course of a series.
Filthwizard_1985@reddit
Shaun of the Dead has this ending to a phone call and it was both real and funny.
PuzzleheadedLow4687@reddit
That is for the sole reason that it is really boring and adds nothing to the story.
paolog@reddit
Except realism.
Remarkable-Ad155@reddit
Exactly- nobody ever gets sidetracked with a "by the way, can you grab some milk on the way back please?..... yeah, I've fed the cats...... I said I've fed the cats...... no, not seen him..... anyway, look I've got this murder to solve, I'll call you later, yeah? ...... "
throw_away_17381@reddit
Bridgerton - especially this series.
ANoteNotABagOfCoin@reddit
The hanging up without saying "bye" thing:
It used to drive me mad as well, I mean how f'ing rude can you be. But I've learned that it has to do with the value it adds to the story--which is none. If it doesn't drive plot, it's usually excluded.
Glandular-Slaughter@reddit
Xfiles would drive me mad with this. No going ‘hey hello?’ Because Mulder literally ended a sentence and hung up.
SebastianHaff17@reddit
This drives me mad. Seen it on US TV too though. Saw an entire large whisky wasted the other day. It gives me chills.
Dimac99@reddit
If it makes you feel better, it was probably cold tea and the actor never wanted it anyway!
Remarkable-Ad155@reddit
See, I get it if it's a baddy trying to intimidate someone or something and making a big show of dropping some cash on the bar etc but so often it's a character having a regular conversation
SebastianHaff17@reddit
Yeah. And maybe it's my boozy nature but I'd down that bad boy before I went.
BritishBlitz87@reddit
Careful, in an American show that'd make you an alcoholic!
Rev_Biscuit@reddit
Haha! Good man. Also refined character who orders a whisky and makes it last for ' the meeting ' If I got a whisky in a pub instead of a pint this meeting best be quick because I'll be back at the bar before the introductions had finished.
RaedwaldRex@reddit
The phone thing. Arranging to meet over the phone, but giving no times or location or anything.
paolog@reddit
It's for continuity. People never eat anything either, just poke the food with a fork or take tiny nibbles. Otherwise if there are multiple takes, the final edit would show food being less or more on a plate or drink going up and down in a glass.
But yes, it's totally unrealistic, and like you say, they could at least say at the end of the scene that they were going to finish it up.
Dr_Turb@reddit
The phone rings with an important clue immediately after the team has finished summing up where they stand. The phone never rings before they've finished their sentence.
hundredsandthousand@reddit
It's probably for practicality's sake because if they never touch it then they don't have to worry about it when editing different takes together. It's the same with food, they actually talk about it in the Friday night dinner retrospective. It is frustrating though
jlelvidge@reddit
Everyone seemingly earns a living large enough when working in a cafe/shop for just 3 days a week to live in London. Especially programmes like Eastenders. The person has no money but gets offered a part time job that answers all their debts and then a couple of months down the line, they are buggering off on a holiday or flying to another country. How much an hour are they supposed to be being paid in that job, £500 an hour? And another one of Eastenders failings, how many bedrooms does each house have as there are up to 10 characters living in most of them and none possess a washing machine?
islandhopper37@reddit
> How much an hour are they supposed to be being paid in that job, £500 an hour?
Maybe the scriptwriters confused a barista with a barrister...
(I'll get my coat!)
Consistent_Sale_7541@reddit
and when they move house they have a couple bin liners and thats it
CuteNeedleworker9@reddit
And they usually get that job by just mentioning they are looking for work near the owner/manager of the business without even being interviewed or asked for a CV.
Personal-Listen-4941@reddit
And everyone can afford to drink in the pub all evening, every evening. Everyone on Albert Square must spend over a hundred quid a week in the Vic. No wonder people are constantly trying to own it. It’s a goldmine.
ufb1684@reddit
Don't forget going to the cafe for breakfast and lunch as well. These characters eat out more in a week than I do in 6 months.
Emergency-Nebula5005@reddit
They ain't got no dosh for nuffink, but they're straight out their houses and into the caff for breakfast. :/
Runaroundheadless@reddit
Eh? Frost or i. Television? I’m scrolling off and you may do too.
Silent-Silvan@reddit
In a police/crime show. The suspect won't speak to the police without their lawyer. This is made out to be unreasonable and somehow suspicious. Obviously, they only want a lawyer because they are guilty.
NEVER speak to the police without a lawyer! I say this as someone who has never been a suspect or committed a crime.
MGD109@reddit
Eh, is that really a think in UK police shows? Most of the one's I've watched they just have a lawyer when the interrogation starts and its never shown them demanding one.
Or if they don't have one, its either mentioned they waived legal representation or their is no mention they should have a lawyer (Waking the Dead was especially bad at that).
Sometimes you get someone particularly rich or involved with organised crime bragging about how expensive their lawyer is.
Showing them demanding a lawyer as a sign their dishonest is more something I associate with American Tv series. I remember in Frost a solicitor ripping Inspector Frost for employing that sort of thinking back in the 90's.
jaggington@reddit
The solicitors in Vera sitting there silently with pen poised, with an occasional gurn at their client when they started confessing.
Decalvare_Scriptor@reddit
When a person is being questioned by police they always carry on with whatever activity they are doing at the time.
HailToTheKingslayer@reddit
Every Midsomer Murders episode
Gruejay2@reddit
The county with a comparable murder rate to Guatemala.
throw_away_17381@reddit
Ah yes the village with one through and a population of 87,000.
AccidentalSirens@reddit
If you lived in Midsomer and you stopped what you were doing every time the police questioned you about a murder, you'd never get anything done.
catgo4747@reddit
To be fair they're used to it!
Dimac99@reddit
It's the lack of cooperation and mouthing off at the cops that gets me. Like, I cannot imagine being obstructive to a police officer investigating a murder, whether I liked the victim or not! Actually, I can't imagine being obstructive to a police officer full stop.
otterlycute@reddit
I'm watching Ludwig right now and there's a lot of that.
snarkycrumpet@reddit
like you're really going to have to put out the hymn books in church, not concentrate on the detective asking about a MURDER
Comfortable-Pace3132@reddit
What makes you think it was MURRDURR
snarkycrumpet@reddit
"err, well, inspector that's what I heard at the village shop this morning.."
quarterpastfour@reddit
Came to say this. It always seems to be a mechanic working on a car too. And then, after a minute's questioning while they carry on working, they'll snarll "I ain't got time to stand around talking", sling an oily rag to the ground and storm off. Oh! I didn't realise you could just walk away from police questioning if you didn't feel like it any more. Good to know.
radiorentals@reddit
It's not a UK show but Law & Order is the prime offender for this.
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
That is a badass move tbf. Treating the police with the same attention you would a door to door salesman.
StuD721@reddit
The first time I noticed this was when the person being asked questions by the police was juggling twin toddlers and another child. That is the only time this makes any sense.
Changing the oil in your car? Nope.
Inspecting something on a production line? Forget it.
Toddlers? Stand aside, Constable, unless you want to put this nappy in the bin.
mry8z1@reddit
Thought you meant actually juggling then
guycg@reddit
One of the best delivered lines by Charlie from It's Always Sunny
'Please don't stop working. They never do on TV."
wildcharmander1992@reddit
Dennis just let me finish my story......
Telling me the plot of an entire episode of law and order is not a story
whitenoisemaker@reddit
I was looking for this one! Dramatically it makes sense, without stuff like this it'd be hard to maintain interest given the amount of questioning scenes some programmes have. But then again, Line of Duty had a tonne of formal interview scenes at the station that were riveting...
davew111@reddit
Not noticed it before but you're right, the guy is always working on a car or something and doesn't even bother to look up.
talking_heads_90333@reddit
the alternative is every episode has 10 scenes of sit down interviews in the back room for every person questioned
Beatnuki@reddit
Vaguely annoyed the police have the temerity to show up and enquire about who is going around cutting up all these people - even if they're innocent!
Brickie78@reddit
Conversely, the police marching into whatever activity they're doing and demanding everyone stop immediately to answer some early routine questions.
Not a British show, but a particularly bad example in Castle when they barge into the middle of a magician rehearsing a dangerous trick and just shout out from the audience and flash the badge. IIRC it's even played as if they did actually get the assistant accidentally beheaded for a moment
ufb1684@reddit
A bug bear of mine for years. Yeah my neighbour of 20 years has been found murdered but I'll just carry on washing the dishes whilst the police question me.
Kasrkin84@reddit
The Law & Order episode of Community was amazing for this.
TheEternalContrarian@reddit
Not a UK show, but Law & Order was like this. A colleague of 10 years gets murdered but the character questioned doesn't seem fazed at all.
balwick@reddit
BBC Comedies that actually think they're funny
Otto1968@reddit
Police/Spy dramas - the main character always lets their kids down by missing school play/football/parents evening
Stripes_the_cat@reddit
When the writers can't trust the audience to hate the villain enough so they suddenly do an act of sexual assault.
Nah, man, the kidnapping, the murder, the violence, the drugs, corruption, whatever it was, trust the audience to get it. Don't use women as props to make sure they understand "baddie = bad".
Stripes_the_cat@reddit
When the writers can't trust the audience to hate the villain enough so they suddenly do an act of sexual assault.
Nah, man, the kidnapping, the murder, the violence, the drugs, corruption, whatever it was, trust the audience to get it.
THE-HOARE@reddit
Grizzled cop loses wife finds new love only for the season 1 bad guy/ serial killer to kill the new love.
catchcatchhorrortaxi@reddit
I honestly can’t recall a single TV show where this has happened. Got some examples?
Krakshotz@reddit
Whenever a show goes all “Ship of Theseus” with the main cast.
New Tricks is the first one that comes to mind
catchcatchhorrortaxi@reddit
Is that a trope though?
varunn@reddit
Using a person with a Glaswegian accent as a policeman or policewoman.
Lower_Discussion4897@reddit
The long suffering wife who only pops up to complain about the behaviour of the main protagonist. This makes her unlikable even though her complaints are credible.
Extreme-Kangaroo-842@reddit
Skylar White. Hated her the first watch of BB as all she ever tries to do is stop a dying Walt providing for his family.
Subsequent watches: realising that Walt is a narcissistic shitbag who's only concern is getting what he wants. Money for his family is just a by product. He's a lying, murdering shit head of the highest order.
Put yourself in Skylar's shoes. You find out your husband is a drug lord kingpin who has no real qualms about murdering people if it means he stays out of jail. Wouldn't you do everything you could to stop it or get the hell out of there?
Mossy-Mori@reddit
I could never wrap my head around the hate for a woman who has a teenage disabled child, just had another baby in her late (?) 30s, finds out her husband has cancer, but is somehow expected to put up and shut up when he's suddenly gone day and night!?
ramxquake@reddit
Because Walt is the protagonist of the show. We're tuning in to see this man go off the rails and get into exciting drug dealing adventures. She's the nagging wife in the way of it. Of course the audience don't like her, she's trying to stop the show.
lordolxinator@reddit
I think at first, people will sympathise with Walt. It's a gradual decline from a depressed unrecognised genius family man with a terminal illness into a conniving sociopath, so it's easier to try and justify Walt's actions because he's got a good reason. It just seems like he's having to turn darker and darker to survive against the shit situations and evil criminals he's found himself embroiled with.
Skyler meanwhile, is out of the loop with all of this. She comes across like a naggy wife who is just a buzzkill, but frankly, that perception is just wacky to me. She cares about her family more than anything, and gets really stressed and confused when Walt grows distant and erratic throughout his cancer progression. Walt Jr starts to rebel a bit, Skyler loses support around the birth of Holly, and she struggles to figure out what's going on. The viewer is innately biased, because they see everything, and have this different perception of Walt. So seeing his wife not support him and just add these superficially perceived Karen complaints to his long list of issues involving lethal drug dealers and million dollar deals, leads to this perception among some people that "Walt isn't being treated fairly". So then someone has to take the blame, regardless of the fact that this situation is only occurring or at least made worse by the fact Walt is misleading the person giving him grief.
Then when she finds out, she becomes self-destructive, tries to save Walt Jr and Holly through a divorce/separation. But covers for Walt to spare the drama and turmoil the family would experience. Walt of course becomes more emboldened and egotistical, and takes it as a personal attack on him to take away his family, his home status quo. So he tries to threaten and stonewall Skyler, and she then resorts to a tit for tat trying to make him want to leave (so that she can save Walt Jr and Holly without having to come clean about the whole meth thing).
And when she finally gets onboard with it (or at least supports Walt), some people attribute it as Skyler being two-faced. Instead of you know, being in too deep in a situation she can't really escape from (the suicide attempt, the heavy smoking, drinking, infidelity with Ted, etc being inadequate) then she has to try and get a handle on the narrative and the laundering side of things to try and damage control before Walt leaves the life of crime one way or another (which is why she's so relieved when Walt says he's out).
She was never a bad character, she was a concerned mother and wife operating with very little information, lies and deceptions from her erratic husband, and struggled to have a solution that wouldn't destroy her life and that of her kids in the process. She made some absolute fuck ups, sure. But everyone did.
OkIndependent1667@reddit
Mind hunters sorted this one brilliantly, his wife is nagging him about hardly being home so just pulls out pictures of a crime scene showing a murdered child the same age as their son and he tells her he’s trying to catch whoever did this, she pipes down pretty quickly after that
RedWestern@reddit
I remember that so well. It was such a satisfying moment. I know a guy who used to be a detective (not homicide, but something with an equal level of exposure to some fucked up shit), and the sacrifices those guys have to make to their physical and mental health, and to their family, for the sake of justice, is pretty unreal.
Bigluce@reddit
That was a great show ended too soon imo.
thesaharadesert@reddit
Anna Gunn got so much stick for playing Skylar White to near-perfection, trying to cope with Walter’s shenanigans.
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
Joyce Barnaby in Midsomer Murders is infamous for this, going on at Tom about wallpaper needing changing, when he has forever a series of horrific murders to investigate by just himself and his dim witted Sgt.
Bernardcecil@reddit
On crime shows, when someone tells you they want to see you in person later to tell you something important, that is their death sentence. Just take a second to tell the person!! It will save your life!
MrBeer9999@reddit
A gripe so minor that it's pure nitpickery, but in British crime drama, two overused scene end/cutaways:
- Where a flock of crows takes off squawking from the trees in a sinister manner, for no reason other than the detective just found a body, or a suspect said something portentous.
- The person that put a pan on the stove with the gas at full bore at the start of the scene, suddenly realises their food is burning to a crisp, because of course it fucking is. Learn to cook ya dumb shit!
botchybotchybangbang@reddit
There are a number, but the obsession with these nobodies who went on love island or bb , then giving them a daytime TV slot , then a quiz show. So vanilla
Appletwirls@reddit
That all our dramas have to be close to realism, and filmed in a muted colour scale to match our dreary weather and outlook. Our crime dramas are the worst for this, might aswell be watching traffic cops or police interceptors only difference is there's a 40min continuous scripted storyline.
Ohh and 6 episode seasons or the same small pool of actors being used
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
Ah yes, it's another gritty drama set in the North of England starring that woman who played Raquel in Coronation Street in the 80s. She does get around.
wildcharmander1992@reddit
Let's make a drama
"Should we use Sarah Lancaster?"
Nah we used her last time...who else is there?
"Michelle Keegan"
No we used her the time before
AHHH Suzanne Jones it is then
Rinse and repeat
impamiizgraa@reddit
Doctor foster and happy valley were both banging. Don’t need another though lol
Silent-Detail4419@reddit
Sarah Lancashire
90s_as_fuck@reddit
Happy Valley is banging though.
AnUdderDay@reddit
That's not a trope. That's just how British TV works.
radiorentals@reddit
This is true. And it's a lot better than the N American model of 13 or 20+ eps a season.
AdministrativeShip2@reddit
I'd love to see a "Margate vice" played completely straight but with full stunts, and bright colours.
NunWithABun@reddit
Detective Inspector Edward Punch and Detective Sergeant Judy Feldman are Punch and Judy: Dreamland Vice.
DangersVengeance@reddit
Hello Netflix? Here’s an idea you’ll love
K1ng_Canary@reddit
There was a film with James McAvoy that I now can't recall the name of that made great use of Canary Wharf as a location for the action, which gave it a completely different look to anything else set in the UK.
thesaharadesert@reddit
Welcome to the Punch
zydr_drinkr@reddit
When detectives approach people to ask questions, almost always those people carry on doing whatever they were doing, walking away from the detectives or just turning their backs, and the detectives just accept it. Normally if someone is approached like that, they'd stop what they're doing and pay attention
otterlycute@reddit
And they're always so inconvenienced by it.
absurdmcman@reddit
The increasing use of the quirky, witty, slightly bumbling 'eart of gold but overwhelmed 30s+ woman as protagonist.
Essentially the Phoebe Waller-Bridge archetype. May have been fun and somewhat interesting in Fleabag, but now it's tired and utterly derivative.
2Fast2Mildly_Peeved@reddit
On the theme of police dramas, when the person going out and doing all the enquiries is a DCI. Detective Chief Inspectors do not go out doing enquiries. They delegate and provide oversight and direction to the investigation. I'm looking at you Vera Stanhope, John Luther.
LemonZestLiquid@reddit
Who does do the enquiries then? (If you don't mind me asking)
2Fast2Mildly_Peeved@reddit
Almost certainly the PC's and DC's, and possibly civilian investigators hired by the force.
Lets say you've got fairly serious job, often it won't even involve the DCI, they might be told about it but it'll be the local DI and DS running the show. If it's serious enough they may allocate the DCI as the Senior Investigating Officer, SIO to oversee the case and make decisions.
They'll delegate down what needs doing, trickling down to DS level, who will then work out which resources to deploy to what.
So if you've got for example, a really serious assault, you might have lots of enquiries needing to be done. So the DS will likely work out what needs to be done by a DC and what might be able to be delegated to other staff.
So you might find statements/medical statements/video interviews with the victim/interviews/file building to take to CPS will likely be the DC's job, you might find CCTV and local community reassurance is tasked to PCSO's or NPT, as well as preserving the scene, arrest attempts for the suspect, and some of the basic enquiries might be done by response.
JeffLynnesBeard@reddit
For me it’s comedies where EVERY other character is crazy and irrational and the protagonist is the only sane one.
catjellycat@reddit
For me, it’s when well-meaning Hoorays write something where a character is a bit down on their luck and ‘poor’
We then see said character at the pub, at a restaurant, with a take away coffee. In all ways just living their life as usual but just every now and again referring to their struggles.
Cough, Fleabag, cough.
Teembeau@reddit
This is like the thing in a series like Friends where someone comes in and says "My boss has let me have his beach house for the weekend, who's in" and no one says "you know, I'm skint". They all have the money to book last minute flights to Malibu.
thedevilsavocado00@reddit
Well at least Friends does address the money issue from time to time like the whole Rachel Joey and Phoebe not being able to splurge on everyone's birthday sort of thing. Although I do admit that they do ignore the fact that they are struggling financially most of the time.
SISCP25@reddit
Just looked and New York to LA can be done for just under £200 nowadays, so in a pre 9/11 world not hard to imagine it was significantly cheaper
DankAF94@reddit
I love the self aware moment where Joey says that their bosses probably hate them because theyre all sat in a coffee shop at 2 o'clock on a weekday afternoon
tiorzol@reddit
They drive there in a borrowed car tbf
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Time Team, a great British thing....but.
FFS...always rushed because they only have 3 days to survey and dig up everything. Just give them a month, they'll find way more.
And, the artist's impression, based on a single fucking ear bone. Always some random person with a countryside background....as if I expected a human in an urban sprawl. It's just made up
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Asking some victim of some tragedy how they feel.
"So Martha, once the Police told you your family had been eaten by an 8ft spider, how did you feel?"
Just once, I want them to say "as it happens, they were all a set of cunts, I only wish the spider had come sooner"
But, the answer is always "gutted"....strained through tears, because...their family just suffered a massive tragedy!
cantevenmakeafist@reddit
The classic trope from detective shows / crime films.
"You can't just do what you want. You've crossed the line, you're off the case!"
Fired detective then sneakily solves the case in their own time.
Soggy_Cabbage@reddit
A variation of this, the old detective who recently lost their partner on the job or is a lone wolf. A case they're working goes very wrong due to them not doing thing according to proper proceedure due to their arrogance. They get shouted at by the police cheif who decides to punish them by partering them up with a rookie who does everything by the book.
And through the power of "old person with experience getting shit done" and "young person with book smarts and few life skills" they solve the case and become the best of buddies.
_poptart@reddit
In my house we always say it’s a Tortured Hero, who drinks too much whiskey and listens to records, whose wife has died/left him, and he’s being called back for One Last Case, and his reluctance finally turns into alone Maverick Cop
WaspsForDinner@reddit
Even better if the One Last Case is linked to The One That Got Away early in their career.
Miercolesian@reddit
Sounds a lot like Inspector Morse.
But this is always the thing with TV detectives. They have their little identifiable quirks.
Morse went to Oxford, drinks beer, drives a red Jaguar, and listens to classical music.
Poirot has a silly mustache, cannot grasp English word order, and waddles when he walks.
Sherlock Holmes smokes a pipe, lives in rented rooms, and hobnobs with the aristocracy.
Jane Tennison has a hairstyle like Princess Diana only a bit longer, dyed blonde over gray hair, etc., etc.
chartupdate@reddit
That's what made Dragnet so funny as it stood that trope on its head
cantevenmakeafist@reddit
Bonus points if the previous partner was killed in service the day before retirement.
MGD109@reddit
How many UK Detective shows go down that route? I'm only drawing Midsommer Murders and New Tricks.
Its more something I associate with American shows.
CareerMilk@reddit
Luther does it pretty often.
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
It is American, but the first Dirty Harry (1971) film has a scene where the district attorney explains that all of Harry’s tactics make the evidence used inadmissible in court.
You get older and realise Harry is wrong and the DA right even if the DA comes across as hectoring.
RoyceCoolidge@reddit
Yes, well when I see five weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of a park in full view of a hundred people, I shoot the bastards, that's my policy.
TheEvilHypnotist@reddit
"Do you realise that because of you this city is being overrun by baboons?" "Well, isn't that the fault of the voters?"
Alwaysroom4morecats@reddit
Also on Frost he always used to walk into the incident room where the other coppers were like 'alright settle down lads, settle down' when clearly there was not much noise actually going on!
itsheadfelloff@reddit
It's like Ghostbusters 2 and you realise that health and safety guy was absolutely in the right. They've got a nuclear(?) powered ghost jail in the middle of a city without anything being signed off
90s_as_fuck@reddit
https://youtu.be/5RJei9xpRrI
Of course The Simpsons have done a parody of this.
FighterJock412@reddit
Ahhh, Mcgarnagle.
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I even clicked the link.
Elongulation420@reddit
Conversely, and I know that one isn’t supposed to think this and Harry does try to set them straight, but whenever I watch Magnum Force I’m sneakily siding with David Soul and Tim Matheson 😦
younevershouldnt@reddit
I realised that when I rewatched it.
But to this filmmakers' credit, I'm sure they intended viewers to get that - he was a proper antihero, unlike a lot of the movies that followed.
pbroingu@reddit
https://youtu.be/7llLFbV97bs?si=TKG5QZlns8Gv9lKm
Bye book
dfinkelstein@reddit
Have you watched Community?
stolethemorning@reddit
There’s a great subversion of this in Sweetpea. You’ve got the plucky young detective with a great gut instinct… but the only piece of evidence they bring in in completely unusable because of the manner they obtained it, lol.
AJB1304@reddit
We're looking at you, Endeavour!
earlgreytoday@reddit
"I don't wanna hear it, McBain! You're out of here!"
Rich_Pay675@reddit
Pulls a bottle of booze from the filing cabint, necks about a half bottle. Back to work.
ImThatBitchNoodles@reddit
Law & Order: SVU has a lot of that and 9/10 is detective Stabler.
FireBowAintThatBad@reddit
After a healthy beating to one of their suspects (who is innocent about half the time)
strodey123@reddit
That a full 'series' in 6 episodes lol
crumblingruin@reddit
In police dramas, when someone has been abducted or is being held captive by a killer in a remote place, and the police take a wild "educated" guess about where they might be, race off in their cars and arrive five seconds before the victim is about to be killed. Bonus points if the place is something like a huge warehouse and the police magically know exactly which floor and room they are in. ITV's "Grace" almost became a parody of itself by doing this in multiple episodes.
paolog@reddit
Subverted in an episode of "Sherlock".
TheCiderDrinker@reddit
Remind me... Please
Coanda2013@reddit
This but the officer feels the need to be the one that races across the city to get there. Just radio it in - there might be police nearby.
Educational_Ask_1647@reddit
Vox Pops. They aren't seeking balance, they aren't seeking diversity of views. They're seeking anyone to meet their 5pm deadline. Drunk teenagers on the ramjam and an OAP with a thing about dogs? Fine. What do you think about the state of the economy...
RedWestern@reddit
So there are a few very niche ‘tropes’ that I just can’t stand. One is that nearly every show set in a prison, or which has scenes in one, will at some point show a character discovering a nasty surprise in their food.
Another, less common one, has what I like to call the “sympathetic sex offender” trope, where they unexpectedly reveal a certain character is a registered sex offender, everyone will react with the appropriate level of disgust and anger towards them, then they’ll tell the story and make it sound in some way justifiable (i.e. we were in love, she was very nearly legal but not quite, she lied about her age, blah blah blah). Like, I understand what they’re trying to achieve, but it’s still invariably bullshit.
DoricEmpire@reddit
Pretending to be set in an area while doing the absolute bare minimum to portray it.
An example: Granite Harbour. Meant to be based in Aberdeen but the only bits that could tell you ots set there are a few photos and the same shot of film repeated (it’s amazing how far you can travel using just one road at Aberdeen beach). The actors were clearly trying to fake an accent and it was a challenge trying to find an Aberdonian accent. In fact I think there may have been more Scandinavians than Aberdonians.
It felt like BBC Scotland were doing the minimum to show they represent the whole of Scotland, while at the same time trying to avoid speaking to anyone from or setting foot north of the Forth.
radiorentals@reddit
Location filming is insanely expensive these days, especially in areas where there isn't a pool of local production talent. I don't mean talent as in talented, I mean that you have to travel a lot of production crew from Glasgow or Edinburgh, house them for the duration of filming, pay per diems etc.
If you see a ton of foreign names on the credits of a show then it means that it's likely a co-production with a foreign broadcaster (where they split the cost of the show between them - allowing both to get a higher budgeted show than either could afford) and/or they're taking advantage of tax credits in both countries - so there will be a % of the budget that has to be spent in both places including the number of people who appear on screen of the co-pro nationalities.
I know it's incredibly dull and I'm sorry for boring you, but this is the reality of telly these days.
Mossy-Mori@reddit
Remember when that actually Aberdonian actress was on River City and everyone thought it was a fake accent!? We canna win
Beginning-Current114@reddit
Rayminnnnnd…..
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
When there’s a key bit of information that could solve the whole issue but the character just won’t say it. Soaps are bad for this dragging out storylines.
ImThatBitchNoodles@reddit
Medical or police dramas where someone starts flatlining and then some dr barges in and starts "CPR", but instead of looking like CPR it's just them keeping hands on patient's chest and flexing their arms by going up and down with their whole body.
I'm not good at explaining, but use this as a reference and imagine it a bit more dramatic than this.
SCATOL92@reddit
And then the person takes a big breath and sits up and is totally fine.
Moby_Hick@reddit
Half the time they fight you back and the other half they complain about hurty ribs - and that's if they survive.
ImThatBitchNoodles@reddit
Exactly...It's not like they were dead couple seconds ago. 🙄
Hour-Cup-7629@reddit
The North. The north to anyone vaguely south is Manchester. Nothing exists between Manchester and Glasgow. Its a mysterious hinterland forgotten by most of the country. Preston, York, Lancaster, Carlisle, Newcastle, Durham, Sunderland and so on. All are figments of the imagination. HS2 will connect ‘the North’ with London. Manchester isnt the North. Newcastle probably is and Scotland certainly is, but Manchester? Nah.
Gold_Association_330@reddit
So many equestrian tropes 🤦♀️.
Horses are always shown making small “whinnying” noises, especially in stressful scenarios. Horse riders are always dressed in full clean show show apparel, even when training at home.
Curlysar@reddit
In police dramas, making out that inspectors and chief inspectors are the ones investigating and solving crimes, when in reality they are largely office managers and constables are the ones who investigate.
In all emergency service-type shows, finding someone collapsed etc and they’re pronounced dead with nobody attempting CPR. Irritates me beyond belief.
sprucay@reddit
The one that made me laugh was silent witness where a guy was hit by a car in a car park, paramedics turned up, did literally 5 chest compressions and then shook their heads and gave up
Glass_Commission_314@reddit
To be fair, I saw a man hit by a lorry the other week, and paramedics didn't even turn up, just the old blacked-out, silver van. He was in one piece, mind.
He was being chased by the old bill though, so maybe they can just send them straight off to Resyk like in Judge Dredd.
BppnfvbanyOnxre@reddit
Some years ago a mate was on the platform when a guy jumped in front of a train. He said they still got a doctor to declare the guy dead despite his head being crushed.
Dimac99@reddit
I can't recall where I was reading about it recently, but neither police nor paramedics are allowed to declare death, so if there's no chance of resuscitation they use a phrase like "injuries incompatible with life". Even in a case like the total decapitation of a motorcyclist. It sounds a bit daft but I don't suppose they can list all the exceptions and edge cases when they make the rules.
Dolly_Stardust@reddit
In the UK, paramedics can absolutely declare someone dead; they just can't sign a death certificate. Same goes for registered, district and palliative care nurses who were involved in the care of the deceased. I think even the police can in certain circumstances, but don't quote me on that!
Moby_Hick@reddit
It's where the "injuries incompatible with life" comes in.
If I turn up to an address and he's rotting and maggoty then I absolutely have the authority to say he's dead. Doing CPR and he's stopped breathing for the last twenty minutes? Nope.
Need an ambulance to turn out for that.
Glass_Commission_314@reddit
Interesting... Well, I wasn't studying the scene, I'm not a ghoul. I was just going off the lack of any obvious ambulances or paramedics. Presumably a doctor was one of the thronging crowd, to give the undertaker the nod.
Either that, or in your mate's case the people who dealt with the incident just wanted to ruin a doctor's day.
sprucay@reddit
Not going to lie, that surprises me somewhat. But a lorry is a bit different to a car in a car park
shannondion@reddit
The one that gets my goat is when they shock people with no heartbeat, you can’t wake the dead.
londonconsultant18@reddit
Traumatic backstories.
This came up on Vigil, a whodunnit on the BBC set on a submarine which spent 75% of its time on insanely boring scenes from the past
sungrad@reddit
Poor, uneducated, or rough characters being played by or portrayed as northerners, while middle class, well off, educated characters are being played by southern actors.
richbun@reddit
People taking turns on the exposition perfectly picking up where someone else started and then handing off to the next. So they all know it, so why are they repeating it aside from to lazily ensure the audience understood.
Just have one person explain, and make it natural like someone needs it explaining to them.
JennyW93@reddit
Very much not British, but one of my favourite bits in the Simpsons is where Lisa is doing exactly this and Marge cuts in with “Oh, please, Lisa. Everyone’s already figured that out”. (ToH IX, the segment with the hairpiece possessed by Snake).
Ratiocinor@reddit
Homer: Well, here we are at the Brad Goodman lecture.
Lisa: We know, Dad.
Homer: I just thought I'd remind everybody. After all, we did agree to attend this self-help seminar.
Bart: What an odd thing to say...
ANoteNotABagOfCoin@reddit
Yeah that's poor writing.
The best exposition sequence in recent memory for me is the one in Ant-man. Michael Pena and the sequence actors killed it.
TraditionalCrab9157@reddit
Read a bit recently that spoke about writers these days having to insert at least 4 viewer updates per hour because people are only half listening because they are on their fones while viewing.
richbun@reddit
I don't mind the updates. It's the delivery. People in the real world don't rotate around 5 different people to say a sentence.
farfetchedfrank@reddit
It makes laugh when a cop goes after a serial killer on their own. I once saw 5 cops struggle to arrest a purse snatcher.
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
True. I can’t think of a serial killer in UK history certainly post WW2 that was caught by an individual person’s brilliance. Perhaps the exception is Colin Pitchfork and possibly John Duffy.
Otherwise Brady and Huntley were given up by acquaintances. Sutcliffe was caught in a traffic stop, and the Suffolk strangler by a fluke in having his DNA on file for an unrelated crime.
Shoddy-Computer2377@reddit
Brady and Hindley would very likely never have been caught, were it not for their idiotic decision to invite David Smith round that night.
lovelylonelyphantom@reddit
Likewise Peter Suttcliffe would never have been caught and his murders would have continued if he didn't make the stupid mistake of putting false number plates on his car. He only got caught by pure chance.
Silent-Detail4419@reddit
Pitchfork is currently in Leyhill - an open prison about 10 minutes from where I am in Bristol. That means he has more rights and freedom than I do, currently living under house arrest in BS5.
Cars2IsAMasterpiece@reddit
How is he allowed in an open prison when he broke the terms of his parole by trying it on with a teenager? Surely the maximum security prisons are meant for scumbags like him.
MGD109@reddit
Interesting, do you have a link? I'd love to read more about it.
Lopsided_Rush3935@reddit
You'll want to look into the work of David Canter. Canter is a British psychologist who, in the 1980s, turned his atention towards criminology and specifically to thoughts/ideas he had about criminal profiling. Over the next few years, he would develop a prototype system of investigation to be used to identify and locate criminals which made heavy use of known statistical correlations and the geographical tendencies/behaviours of previous criminals. He proposed it to detectives in the UK but they were far more content with conducting investigations how they had traditionally done so.
Then, also in the 1980s, the prolific murder spree of 'the railway murderers' began, and the police really couldn't stop them...
Eventually, the murder toll got so horrendously bad that they turned to Canter and gave him unlimited access to all of the evidence collected from crime scenes and interviews. From this, Canter created a criminal profile of the railway murderer that turned out to be scarily accurate, even going as far as to suggest a particular block of flats as the killer's address. The police searched the block and found the killer ('killer' - singular, by that point - his initial accomplice had quit).
Since then, Canter's method of profiling has been taught internationally and is used by organisations like the FBI.
SarkyCherry@reddit
Never heard of him. That’s really interesting. I will have to look this up in detail now. Thank you
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
John Duffy was one of the Railway Murderers.
Dimac99@reddit
Tbh I'm often muttering at the telly about how detectives should be checking in with colleagues before they even knock on a witness's door alone. You've got a mobile phone, text someone to let them know where you are so they know where to look if things go south!!
Accurate_Prompt_8800@reddit
This one is hilarious, especially when the serial killer or criminal is supposed to be extremely dangerous the police officer always manages to outwit or overpower them… shock indeed
MobiusNaked@reddit
Well, the scariest capture of a serial killer, Levi Bellfield - known to kill with a hammer, is when they worked out he must be in the loft.
There is an interview with the copper who entered the loft without a helmet- scary for him. Luckily Levi was hiding naked in fibreglass insulation.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
If it’s Luther (or maybe ex-Army squaddie Smithy from The Bill) I can forgive that, otherwise… Nah.
DeapVally@reddit
Yeah, working in a&e, we get lots of custody people. It requires a lot of hands to hold even an average sized person who doesn't wish to be held! One person hasn't got a chance of arresting someone who doesn't wish to be.
Lunaspoona@reddit
They figure it out, do the dramatic 'O' and run off without telling a single person where they are going. End up in a dangerous situation, and the team have managed to figure it all out after and get there bang on time to save the day!
Rubberfootman@reddit
Phone calls almost never interrupt conversations.
MadWifeUK@reddit
And they're never proper phone calls either:
Evening. Interior of middle class living room. Husband on the sofa with a glass of wine, wife cuddled up next to him. Both watching a game show with annoying laughter track on the television.
Phone rings, screen shows "Work"
Davis: Davis. listens for a minute I'm on my way. Turns to wife Sorry love, go to go in. Lifts conveniently placed car keys and leaves.
How it should be:
Evening. Interior of middle class living room, bubbles from kid's bathtime soaking into the carpet, husband is holding a mug of tea in one hand and a KitKat in the other. Wife is at the other end of the sofa folding pants. Adverts are on the television.
*Phone rings, screen shows "Dammo"
Davis to wife: What the Eff? Why is Dammo ringing me at this time?
Wife: How the hell would I know? Maybe answer it and find out, dickhead.
Davis answers phone
Davis: Dammo, what's up? No, no you're fine, we're not busy... Yep... yep. Oh for fucks sake! Is that definite? Can't it wait til the morning?... OK OK, but I'm putting my overtime in from now. OK, see you in a bit. Bye, bye, byebyebye, bye.
Davis to wife: That was Dammo. The Chief's on his back about the PSCs going AWOL with the NUNS. I'm going to have to go into work.
Davis starts looking for his car keys
Wife: What time will you be home?
Davis: I dunno, probably late. Where are my bloody keys?
Wife: Are they in your coat pocket?
Davis from the hallway Yep, here they are. Right, I'll see you later.
Wife: yells after Davis Will you bring in a pint of milk?
LadyFinduillas@reddit
This comment is beautiful.
Sinister_Grape@reddit
You can never end a call with just one “bye”
Charliesmum97@reddit
I'd watch this show
90s_as_fuck@reddit
Dammo knows Davis always gets results.
kathereenah@reddit
Amazing.
Rubberfootman@reddit
Perfect.
davew111@reddit
Related to phone calls, they are always too fast when you don't hear the caller on the other end. Character will answer the call and say "hello? yeah? ok!" and hang up. They then proceed to relay to the other characters "that was detective Bramble from Met, he says a person matching the description of Amir Zarkowi was seen at Heathrow Terminal 4 by the baggage claim area, he was carrying the a suitcase like the one we are looking for, he and detective Jones were in pursuit but lost him in the car park when he fled in a blue Ford van, partial registration LV13"... You got all that from that 3 second phone call?
Silvagadron@reddit
I always like how that was really exaggerated in Toy Story 2 with Woody in that advert.
baechesbebeachin@reddit
No one ever says bye!! It's so weird
Rubberfootman@reddit
So true, and they remember times, street names and numbers perfectly.
Two minutes later I’d be asking myself if it was 7 o’clock at 10 Rillington Place, or 10 o’clock at 7 Rillington Place.
Tornik@reddit
"Can you zoom in and enhance?"
Also,
"I need those DNA results straight away!"
AltoCumulus15@reddit
That Scots are always the baddies
spizoil@reddit
Really bugs me how shows like Shed and Buried, Salvage Hunters, Fifth Gear etc always show you what’s coming up in this episode. Watch the first couple of minutes and you’ve seen most of the show
PMmeyourbestfeature@reddit
'I'm looking for a gift for my aunt.'
radiorentals@reddit
This is a thing that has been imported from the US. A US half hour is about 23 minutes with 3 ad breaks and the broadcasters are terrified to lose viewers so they want to keep the ones they have engaged (coming ups) and engage the ones who have just arrived (previously ons). So you can expect probably about 18 mins of new content across a '30 min' show.
If it makes you feel any better programme makers don't like it either.
akira1310@reddit
This is my most hated thing about television.
knityourownlentils@reddit
Banging gavels in courtrooms. We don’t use them in the UK.
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
The judiciary leaves them to auctioneers in the UK. I recall a lad who had been in my youth group running foul of the law, he later described his time in court and the lack of a gravel was a stand out point for him: not his acquittal! 🤔🧐
jdsuperman@reddit
Well, at least they couldn't stone him to death then
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
Damned autocorrect!
The_Pajamallama@reddit
Bastard, there’s beer all over my phone now
VanishingPint@reddit
Interesting didn't notice that - I remember Noel Edmonds using one in character https://youtu.be/_dNvlZbhiN4?si=yH7x_U7o1I7GwPAb
Used "to alert parties in court to the entrance of the judge into the courtroom" - so I guess the Judge wouldn't need to do that https://fullfact.org/law/no-gavels-please-were-british/
Silent-Detail4419@reddit
it's not just a British thing, it's a Commonwealth thing. There are no gavels in Australian and NZ courts either.
Comfortable-Pace3132@reddit
Order! I'll have none of that anti-gavel lip in my courtroom
superkinks@reddit
Seriously? I’ve never been to court and I feel like I’ve been deceived now
ScottOld@reddit
Bit different, but the BBC randomly blurring stuff, like small logos etc because they can’t advertise, it’s visually distracting and draws more attention to the fact there is a logo
barneywire@reddit
When someone says in a crowded room "everybody out" to talk to one person instead of taking that one person to another room to talk.
DameKumquat@reddit
In any lab on TV, say for forensics and DNA work, the staff are wearing lab coats but no gloves and with loose hair everywhere.
In reality they're in old jeans and T-shirts, no coats unless it's an extra-clean area, with nitrile gloves changed regularly, and hair securely tied back or under a hairnet, and no touching their face.
Also they have to have a bunch of glass bottles with coloured water in. In reality they're almost all colourless, just labelled with many different colours of tape. Had a film crew come to my department once. They thought the boss's lab looked too old-fashioned and boring so used mine, all white Formica and freezers, and brought a couple dozen bottles of coloured stuff to put on shelves above him.
And don't get me started on the likelihood of getting useable DNA, the fact that every suspect has a record, and the magic sped-up times it takes to get results.
Altruistic_Dig_2873@reddit
I was watching some crime drama with my friend and in almost every lab scene he was "well he just contaminated that sample, and she just contaminated that other sample"
Worried-Penalty8744@reddit
How do you feel about forensic pathologists going off around the country and indeed the world being crime fighters?
Fuck knows how the Lyell Centre makes any actual money, they must have an entire team dedicated to cooking the books
Worried-Penalty8744@reddit
How do you feel about forensic pathologists going off around the country and indeed the world being crime fighters?
Fuck knows how the Lyell Centre makes any actual money, they must have an entire team dedicated to cooking the books
SamVimesBootTheory@reddit
This bothers me so much in crime dramas, like the amount of female characters with long hair who go into a crime scene and it's like TIE YOUR HAIR UP
anabsentfriend@reddit
...and without fail, the inspector (Vera) goes marching through the crime scene in her old coat that she's worn in every other scene she's been to in the last 30 years. CSIs all around in scene suits, gloves, masks, and overshoes, but apparently, the Inspector (Vera) has magic non-shedding clothes, hair, skin, etc. They (Vera) also pick up random stuff that she stuffs in a bag and into her coat pocket, which turns out to be the key evidence that solves the crime. Ffs.
DattoDoggo@reddit
The way the news will interview absolute morons for rage bait then call it “balanced reporting”.
sanddancer08@reddit
And another one is when someone is starving and offered food; they stuff as much food into their gob for about 5 seconds (to indicate they're starving, of course, because otherwise we wouldn't know) then never touch the food again.
sanddancer08@reddit
When police search a missing person's house and happen upon a random post it note scribbled with an anonymous telephone number which miraculously unlocks the entire case.
Like it could be ANYONE?! the local chippy; the number of a yoga teacher; your great aunt who you need to ring to thank for your Christmas gift cos your mum won't stop nagging. ANYONE!!
Tsarinya@reddit
Women all seem to have the same hairstyle of Loose Beach Waves. Bonus points for if they are doctors, nurses, police officers etc and wear said Loose Beach Waves down when they are doing something that would definitely require them to tie their frigging hair up.
Silvagadron@reddit
People guessing someone’s password based on things in the room, or just knowing what their favourite colour is.
Speedbird223@reddit
I think after watching this Charlie Brooker “How to Report The News” all British news segments now annoy me…🤣
https://youtu.be/aHun58mz3vI?si=WB14ziBCkO8Goi7H
ProtoplanetaryNebula@reddit
Nobody says goodbye on the phone. Even when it’s a normal conversation, not a piece of terrible news.
jojosparkletoes@reddit
Male police detective with a drinking problem, bad divorce, stroppy teenage daughter whom he loves, but will never say, she gets in trouble, he saves her.
Female detective, also with drinking problem, dim husband and children who hate her.
FizzbuzzAvabanana@reddit
The use of the word 'celebrity' for an individual who was on TV once years ago in something like love island or big brother. Who are ya? Who are ya?
PlinkPlonkFizz@reddit
How people just sod off and live in America, with no job, no visa and usually a criminal record. Soaps istr were the worse culprits for this
ChelseaMourning@reddit
The BBC’s obsession with getting people to cry on camera. “And your mum would have loved to have been here, but she’s dead. Isn’t she? She’s dead. She died when you were a little helpless kid. And you miss her so much don’t you? Also your dog died 6 months ago. Are you crying yet? Oops, get the tissues!”
It’s like someone read that people love real emotion, so now every poor sod who goes on the one show has to be aggressively grief bombed until they’re in tears.
evilgiraffee57@reddit
Oh hello you Oscar award winning actor in Frost/Midsommer etc?
Well you are blatantly the killer.
(Or a nightmare to work with and so reduced to a bit part in a sunday evening drama that i therefore judge you personally for)
evilgiraffee57@reddit
Oh hello you Oscar award winning actor in Frost/Midsommer etc?
Well you are blatantly the killer.
(Or a nightmare to work with and so reduced to a bit part in a sunday evening drama that i therefore judge you personally for)
YammyStoob@reddit
Empty cups - I read this elsewhere and now can't unsee it and now, neither will you. Coffee cups, etc, are always empty when given to the actors and knowing it's empty, they wave it around unlike the normal care you'd take with a full cup of hot beverage.
BroodLord1962@reddit
Police/crime drama's where one of the detectives is an idiot. We've had it in Vera, Morse, Father Brown, Moonflower Murders. It's just such lazy writing.
gandyg@reddit
Everytime a new character or family joins a soap it's always "Are they all the seem? They have 'SECRETS'!"
RestaurantAntique497@reddit
Not really a tv show but it bothers me irrationally that news reporters will stand outside a house (or any crime scene) all day including the 10pm news even though they could just be reporting from the studio.
It's as if standing in the cold makes the story more legitimate
InfectedFrenulum@reddit
Indeed! The BBC using licence payers' money to fly a reporter to stand 500 yards from The White House to spout the same shite that was just spouted in the studio back in the UK.
Shoddy-Computer2377@reddit
And then something important does happen but the BBC are busy talking shite in the studio and don't cut over quickly enough.
CaveJohnson82@reddit
Especially when said person is a radio presenter so you can't even bloody see what's going on!
90s_as_fuck@reddit
They've got their ear to the ground and fingers on the pulses though.
InfectedFrenulum@reddit
Put BBC news on before going to work: "It's coming up to 2am here in Washington DC, so we're unlikely to hear any further updates until Congress re-opens for the day."
Groundbreaking.
MJLDat@reddit
The BBC reporting on the BBC, standing outside Broadcasing House, saying the BBC won’t speak to them. Then they stop filming and walk into the building.
Infamous_Telephone55@reddit
Or when the story is actually about the BBC, and they send a reporter to go and stand outside Broadcasting House about 100 yards away from the actual news studio just so that they can have broadcasting house in the background.
Teembeau@reddit
Journalist stood outside the door of No 10.
Dimac99@reddit
They won't admit it publicly, but they're there for Larry
NunWithABun@reddit
With a police officer guarding the crime scene tape giving them the side-eye because it's half 10 at night, pissing it down, and they just want a quick puff on their vape.
OriginalPlonker@reddit
Whenever two people are talking and someone's nearby watching them, the watcher is somehow invisible. Does nobody look around anymore?
chipscheeseandbeans@reddit
Xmas episodes of sitcoms where they have to eat multiple Xmas dinners
Sweet-but-pyscho@reddit
At the end of DIY / renovation programs when they show the before videos they ALWAYS put them in grey scale - like they weren’t bad enough to warrant being upgraded and redecorated anyway. It boils my blood!!!!
Adept_Platform176@reddit
When modern series are just filled with manipulative needle drops to convince you that what you're watching is cooler than it is. I see this all the time when my family is watching stuff like Brassic
Blixx99@reddit
Mainly in soaps
Character A: so I was thinking about inviting Sarah to the party tonight, is that ok?
Character B: errr yeah sure, I guess
A: are you sure? She doesn't have to come if you don't want to.
B: it's fine, why would it bother me anyway?
A: thanks you're the best friend ever!
They hug and the camera focuses on B smiling while A leaves, once A has left the room B immediately stops smiling and looks away annoyed/ upset
ghotiboy77@reddit
Suffocated with a plastic bag on the head
killed by being injected with nicotine
During the big chase the bad guy is run over by a big truck
People saying "Yeah, its a lot" when something emotional/weighty happens
MGD109@reddit
Is that so common? I remember it happening in Midsomer Murders but where else was it done?
sanehamster@reddit
All retired detective s have one unsolved case that haunts them, for which they copied/stole the files. Unless their ex partner was corrupt
MGD109@reddit
I remember Midsommer Murders did a great job deconstructing that one back in the 90's.
Said retired detective's obsession had ruined their life, sanity and nearly ended up ruining a completely seperate case, their efforts failed to do anything to expose the actual killer (who ended up being killed completely separately and was only exposed after they died) and its acknowledged they would have gone to prison if the Inspector Barnaby hadn't looked the other way out of sympathy.
SpiritedVoice2@reddit
I hope you have you been watching re-runs of Frost and this hasn't been playing on your mind since 1998.
MGD109@reddit
Yeah me too. Though to be honest I'm struggling to remember which episode that was.
I remember the one where a paedophile nearly got off cause Frost punched him in the face and had to resign to ensure he didn't.
I remember the one where everyone thinks that a guy with Down Syndrome killed a little girl and wants the case handled quickly, but I'm pretty sure in that one its Frost who ends up exposing he's innocent.
And a remember one where their is a shady lawyer who gets to yobs off despite them probably fatally mugging an old lady, but to my memory Frost was doing that by the book, it was the lawyer who was employing all sorts of tricks (like having the subjects fake being ill so the police wouldn't get a chance to get any forensic material before the clothes were washed) and he ends up actually winning when Frost tries to call him out, pointing out they have the right to legal representation and that the sheer number of people who have been wrongfully imprisoned cause they didn't get it.
davew111@reddit
A heavily pixelated blurry image can be enhanced by computer magic to get read the license plate of the killer's car.
jaimefay@reddit
My husband is probably sick of me angrily muttering "but you can't DO that!" when this happens.
You can't add details that just don't exist in the original image. It's bullshit.
paolog@reddit
Bonus points when the tech team says "But you can't DO that!" and their boss says "Just do it!" and ten seconds later, there it is, crystal clear.
jaimefay@reddit
In my head, they're angry-grumbling internally about the limits of algorithmic interpolation and how this is bullshit and will not stand up in court, lol.
wildcharmander1992@reddit
Used to make me laugh back in the day
Watch a crime show were they do all this shit
Then on comes Crimewatch with a picture taken with a potato of a man in a hoodie from behind in the dark from 3000 metres away "do you recognise this man"
I wouldn't even recognise that man If I was that man maybe you should hit up itv for the cameras I just saw them use before I switched over
Neither-Drive-8838@reddit
" There is absolutely no way I will do that, No No No!" Cut to scene of them doing just that.
krakeneverything@reddit
When troubled cop is absent dad to daughter. Then in 2nd to last episode daughter gets abducted.
ClevelandWomble@reddit
The one that gets me is where the copper has a personal interest in the case but his/her boss still lets them get involved. As someone who used to carry a warrant it just kills the storyline for me.
Any decent defence lawyer who found out that detective knobhead helped in the enquiry would be doing cartwheels of joy. Every single piece of evidence from that entire station could be challenged.
And Frost! I'd love to see him handing his contemporaneous notes to the court for the judge to see.
Dimac99@reddit
Ah, but Frost is ahead of the game there, he doesn't keep contemporaneous notes! Have you seen the state of his office? It does bother me immensely though that Humphrey keeps his notes on random scraps of paper and old receipts in Death in/Beyond Paradise. I can't see his reviews going well, no matter how much of a detective genius he is.
And don't get me started on all the coppers making notes in their notebooks then tearing them out. You're not allowed to do that, it's an official record!
ClevelandWomble@reddit
... which counsel for the defence may ask to be shown to the court if the witness wants to refer to them. Yes. I know it's fiction but there's no need to let the characters just tear the rule book up just to make them interesting or, worse still, edgy.
Kitchen_Owl_8518@reddit
Take my upvote for your Detective knob head comment had me laughing 😂😂😂
Scary_Marionberry320@reddit
Oh yeah like in Broadchurch when the man Dr Who suspects who the killer is but goes ahead with the arrest without formally standing down Olivia Coleman / recording his intentions anywhere
sychtynboy123@reddit
Mrs browns boys,it's shite
dvb70@reddit
Honestly all of them. When you get older you realise most TV writing is just a series of linked clichés and tropes. It's incredibly rare to see something I have not seen before.
MGD109@reddit
I mean humanity has been making fiction for at least 10,000 years at this point.
Its hard to come up with a truly original idea.
HappyLittleHermit@reddit
The 2 leads of a detective show will go to an event, a night out, on holiday or wherever and then there's always a dead body. The amount of deaths they just happen to be present for is extremely suspicious
MGD109@reddit
As Terry Pratchett put it "If a detective is to go on holiday, then he won't even have time to unpack his socks before tripping over at least one dead body"
Nearby-Percentage867@reddit
“Drink tonight?” “Sure 8 o’clock?” “Great, I’ll pick you up” “See you then.”
Where? Where will you pick them up?
DarkNinjaPenguin@reddit
From their house, presumably?
Life-Frosting-9848@reddit
Patients in a “coma” in literally any show where there isn’t any form of artificial airway/drugs keeping them asleep, and then they just “wake up” as if nothing ever happened 🫠
Ceejayncl@reddit
Not a U.K. show, but I watched the Blacklist. The final season was bad for the set being obviously in America, but supposed to be elsewhere. For example they were supposed to be in a warehouse in Europe. At the back they had bollards protecting the loading bays, and it was very American. The period warehouse was also to be big to exist in Europe from that time period.
Adding on to this, the fact that they were allowed to use guns in the European countries. Most European countries don’t allow any officer to carry guns. They would never ever let an officer from a foreign country carry a gun. Further more, they also wouldn’t let those officers carry out the actual work. At the very best they would be in a police car observing whilst the local officers did the work.
wildcharmander1992@reddit
Person A and B are talking about something normal and mundane
Person C catches the end of the conversation from outside the doorway
Person C decides that the least likely scenario in existence must be what's happening and goes mental either telling everyone else the "fact" they've discovered or being really uncomfortable and on edge about it
Later on Person A & B are discussing the same thing in front of Person C and D and again it's very obvious what they are talking about but they have purposely worded it to sound a bit rude or to vaguely relate to what the person C thinks it is
Person C sits and reacts with the most over the top pantomime expressions before kicking off and being told the obvious truth
" Oh you were talking about seeing that band you mentioned last week, when I heard you say 'they have so many good hits under there belt' that you called a mafia hitman in to murder your pregnant wife so you could turn her into paté and eat her on a bit of toast for your Christmas dinner starter!!!!"
And everyone just accepts that they thought that and laugh along like "Oh Avril , what are you like?!?"
irishmickguard@reddit
Im yet to watch a realistic depiction of the British army on British tv. They always have shit berets, overuse slang from 25 years ago (when their advisor served, if they even have one), female soldiers always amazing and males always mongs or irredeemable cunts.
pickindim_kmet@reddit
I find it crazy we've had 60 ish years of Coronation Street and despite all the fights and drama, not one of them has said a single swear word.
Might be the street that has the most crime in the UK, but not a single swear word.
nfoote@reddit
I just watched Gangs of London. Henchmen patrolling the Bosses garden at night time in jackets and coats while the Boss looks on from his open bedroom balcony. Boss turns into the room without shutting the balcony doors and greets his wife on their bed who is wearing silky, strappy nightwear, yet she DOESN'T instantly complain she's cold and he's letting all the heat out and try to put her icey feet on him to warm up / punish him?? Come on! At least try make it believable!
MrSam52@reddit
Not just UK tv but complete lack of understanding of how poker works, someone goes all in ‘ah mr x looks like you cant match my bet so you’re out’ and then that person would win the hand (requiring someone else to give them money or throw their car keys in).
No if someone bets higher than you can afford your bet gets spun off and anything above that is part of a separate pot. Otherwise as soon as one person takes a lead they’d win every hand.
LahmiaTheVampire@reddit
I’m not sure if life imitates art or art imitates life in this matter, but in pubs someone will order a non specific drink (like a beer or pint). Ive then seen people do this in real life but then always get asked what kind.
vrekais@reddit
Married couples that hate each other but remain together.
GraceEllis19@reddit
Historical adaptations where everyone has no body hair and beautiful smooth skin with no imperfections. Then having mad passionate sex scenes involving all sorts of stuff that in reality you’d probably not want to do to someone who hadn’t had a bath in the last year…
UnrealCanine@reddit
Maybe I'm just an introvert, but any group of people claiming to be so close after 2 days together
talking_heads_90333@reddit
When I was still young enough to think Eastenders was worth watching, it used to annoy me when someone knocked on the front door and waited all of 0.2 seconds before stepping back and shouting "Oi Terry I know you're in there!!" at a first floor window.
Zealousideal-Wash904@reddit
In police and medical dramas when they run out of ideas so they start involving the existing characters’s families.
Comfortable-Pace3132@reddit
I'm convinced that shows start going downhill when they start using flashback if it's not used normally. Means they've had to make up back-story to fuel storylines rather than using what they have in the present day
ASL3312@reddit
If someone is chopping any sort of vegetable in the kitchen then they WILL definitely cut their hand / finger on the knife.. Every. Single. Time.
iCowboy@reddit
The washed out blue tint on almost all BBC current day drama which makes it look like it was filmed under fluorescent light.
3lementZer0@reddit
When the scene changes from car to their home for example, and the cast are continuing their conversation with the exact same energy as if they didn't speak at all on the journey between the two places.
paolog@reddit
Or the conversation continuing from the exact point it left off before the cut, despite there being several minutes or hours of intervening time.
DifferentWave@reddit
There’s been some kind of fight, and someone has an injury. There then follows an entire scene where a second character, usually a woman, holds a bowl of water and dabs ineffectually at the wound with filthy wet rags while a very long and significant conversation takes place.
paolog@reddit
Bonus points if the hero is fit and has his shirt off, and double bonus points if this means one thing leads to another.
Comfortable-Pace3132@reddit
The Northern/Southern trope is very much still a thing in ITV-type dramas. Southerners are always 'well-to-do suburbanites with a secret', and Northerners are still portrayed as some kind of stupid or nasty
Major-Revolution5250@reddit
When anyone goes to visit a CEO type dude and he pours whoever a large whiskey from a crystal decanter at 10 am and they both drink it
Shoddy_Reality8985@reddit
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AsYouKnow
I'll turn it off instantly and do something else. Most recent culprit was the film Vice: "as you all know, I am Scooter Libby and..." alt+F4, stick your lazy writing up your bumhole sideways and send me the footage.
paolog@reddit
Warning for TV Tropes virgins: don't click on the link unless you've got a couple of hours to spare.
Paulstan67@reddit
Mainly in soap operas...
It's impossible to get barred from the local pub/cafe/shop/surgery.
You could beat up the landlord, sexually abuse a member of the staff/owners family and steal a month's takings and kick the dog yet you still wouldn't be barred!
PigHillJimster@reddit
Is it a trope when it actually occurs quite often in reality?
Too often the cases where it comes to light there's been a miscarriage of justice or the guilty walk free are where the Police haven't followed procedure correctly.
Qrbrrbl@reddit
To be fair, there's a bit of a different between PC Muggins forgetting to properly tag an exhibit and DCI Renegade deciding that evidence is for pussies
Kitchen_Owl_8518@reddit
😂😂😂
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
True, what I am annoyed is the way they glamourise it in police shows, to show that the cop is constrained by the rules. There is one episode of Frost when after having been outwitted by a criminal, he just plants evidence on them, because he knows they are guilty.
You wouldn’t praise a teacher for not marking homework or a cleaner for not changing their mop.
Zarathos8080@reddit
Any woman cop/spy/military asset is both slim and small but is also a martial arts wizard that can kick the ass of any giant man. Speaking as a giant man, I find this unrealistic.
Hayesey88@reddit
When people on the programme don't actually add any value and are just there to tick boxes.
IansGotNothingLeft@reddit
Putting the phone down without even saying goodbye.
And in a family of 2 or 3 kids, one of them has to be a boy with the IQ of an orange.
paolog@reddit
Someone on the phone gives the caller a character's name that has several different possible spellings and writes it down correctly without asking for the spelling.
"So have you got that name for me? Sean Reed, you say?"
writes down "Shawn Reid", and the character turns out to be called exactly that
Imaginary-Quiet-7465@reddit
Someone coughs and that’s it, they’re fatally ill.
WVA1999@reddit
"Breakfast" is one bite of toast before rushing off
paolog@reddit
While pulling on a jacket.
Teembeau@reddit
Especially in the USA. The wife has been up for hours filling a table with every known form of Breakfast and the husband grabs a bit of toast and leaves
Massaging_Spermaceti@reddit
Not really a trope, but I hate that any bladed weapon has to be accompanied with a sound effect of metal on metal. It's bad enough drawing from a scabbard, but it happens when someone just brandishes a sword or picks one up off the dirt ground.
paolog@reddit
Zhhhing!!!
Apparently Foley artists make that sound by running a metal bar along a scaffolding pole.
Hot_and_Foamy@reddit
And then the immediate attack they do is to attack their opponents sword. Like the target is open just hit them!
Massaging_Spermaceti@reddit
Yes! Torso wide open and undefended, but rather than stab they'll bring their sword down in a big overhead swing straight into the waiting blade.
urban_shoe_myth@reddit
Police/detectives allocated a massively complex case days before retirement. They're either getting shot minutes before they're due to clock off, or they work 24/7 for their last week and have some near misses along the way
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
Tragedy does sometimes happen just before retirement, look up the murder of Matt Ratana (killed by an autistic man who had been detained but not searched properly and had an antique firearm hidden in his person). But you’re right that’s it is repeated to a tedious degree.
HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)
Tragedy does sometimes happen just before retirement, look up the murder of Matt Ratana (killed by an autistic man who had been detained but not searched properly and had an antique firearm hidden in his person). But you’re right that’s it is repeated to a tedious degree.
Previous_Kale_4508@reddit
Not a trope of the shows mainly, but at the end of a show the credits too frequently get squashed or mashed into a fraction of the screen rendering them unreadable while the station ident is given the rest of the space and the announcer tells us what is on next.
I know it's an attempt to stop channel hopping, but it makes me want to change the channel anyway.
douggieball1312@reddit
I hate that because I often like the song they play over the closing credits and the babbling announcer then starts waffling over it.
Smooth-Purchase1175@reddit
Ah, yes, the dreaded "credit squeeze", as criticised by Charlie Brooker.
maccon25@reddit
i agree that that kinda attitude to the law is wrong / irksome etc, but just a well written character, that evokes a reaction in you? like not even protagonist has to be the perfect moral exemplar that the reader loves and admires..
Pier-Head@reddit
Setting a scene in the middle of winter and the trees are all green. Not just a British thing though.
Brrrofski@reddit
When someone is Welsh and they always have the same accent.
The valleys area is one of many, obvious accents.
kevstershill@reddit
One that seems to have been adopted from the US - the last-minute piece of evidence, brought up in the middle of the trial, that proves the accused did it, which seems to be just accepted by everyone.
IlovemyBudgie@reddit
The gormless dad.
SteveyPeas@reddit
The police come in to “take someone away” but will patiently wait for them to finish their conversation, or will stop mid walk off when another character calls their name to tell them something.
grayggr@reddit
City chase scenes in crime, drama, detective thrillers. Pursuer is 3-4 turns/streets away. Pursued jumps into an obscure shop/alley/side street.
Pursuer despite being 3-4 turns away knows exactly where they've gone.
Never thinks ,'fucking hell, where did they get to'
Puzzleheaded-Step222@reddit
For me it’s in a film when the mum or dad is slaving away in the kitchen to make the family breakfast and they all take one bite and rush out the door
jdsuperman@reddit
That's much more of an American trope, though. It's usually all pancakes and waffles.
betsykitten@reddit
Not just in UK shows but a group of friends or family all start arguing with eachother about something that's happened, overlapping their yelling, when one sensible members of the group tells them all to shut up and they talk about it it normally again. Never, ever seen that in real life.
And childbirth that lasts 10 minutes from waters breaking to delivery. If only!
LaraH39@reddit
I am SO bored of the alcaholic/broody loner cop that has lost his wife/gf and solves crime despite his depression. Hated by his boss because he's not "modern" enough.
The other type I hate is the "let's blame this guy and close the case cause it's easy, I can't really be fucked doing my job. Oh no here comes xxx that we're going to obstruct at every turn because it's easier to put effort into stopping him solving this than helping him solve it"
DylanClegg23@reddit
That the North actually exists and people live there happily. WTF?!
PuzzleheadedLow4687@reddit
News reporters doing pieces to camera from outside in terrible weather, just so they can be standing outside a famous place or a building where something happened (invariably the thing that happened was done by people inside the building, in the warm and dry).
Even worse if they are doing a report *about* the weather, while standing outside in it...
ADIParadise@reddit
Any crime drama where they find someone dead and then fail to make any effort to save the person. They're dead says the unqualified expert in medical matters "call the police", NO how about call a blooming ambulance and maybe start CPR ?
lordsteve1@reddit
Not just UK TV shows but the usual “hero/main character must be from a broken family” always pisses me off because it just makes out that the good guys have to be flawed but let’s make it be the only way we know how by giving them a divorce etc.
Along a similar vein is whenever the partner/husband/wife of the main character in a law enforcement/emergency services role gets pissy because or half needs to devote time to their vital role for society. I mean you are in a relationship with someone whose career literally forms a key part of a functioning society and yet get huffy when they are working overtime to save lives in a hospital or trying to solve a murder/kidnapping/rape case. What did you expect when you married a police/paramedic/fire service/security services employee??
Omnissiah40K@reddit
How being hit in the head with the butt of a gun, shovel, cricket bat ...etc causes an instant guaranteed (non life threatening) knockout. Is it really that effective to knock somoeone out that way?
They then miraculously wake up with no visible head injury or brain damage, usually having been transported some distance.
Like if you had someone unconscious from a head injury for several hours, wouldn't you be worried they might not wake up?
molluscstar@reddit
Most depictions of mental health units (or ‘asylums’ - they’ve not been called that for many years). Straitjackets aren’t a thing anymore and mentally unwell people aren’t kept in concrete cells. I did criticise an American show for depicting a patient being strapped to the bed while in distress but Google tells me that’s actually done there! We don’t do that in the UK.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Any scene where a dangerous and determined criminal with a bladed weapon is completely disarmed and subdued by an unarmed, unarmoured person (cop or not.)
Even martial arts experts will tell you this is highly unlikely to go well for the person trying to stop the armed person.
Also any scene where being shot is brushed off as a minor inconvenience - even with ballistic armour, it’s going to do damage and it will hurt (and do a number on your hearing…)
FilthyDogsCunt@reddit
The parts in all the cop shows where the cops aren't a bunch of lazy brain-dead fascists.
Just once I'd like to see a realistic depiction of them on our TV.
OkIndependent1667@reddit
Would be funny to see the murderer get caught because an officer said “i can smell cannabis” out of the blue next to his car
Smooth-Purchase1175@reddit
I believe "Monk" would be up your alley for that. :)
PippyHooligan@reddit
Person A enters a room and starts to excitedly explain to person B that a fantastic thing has happened to them.
Person B looks glum and quiet.
Person A continues their long and exciting diatribe, oblivious to how B is not reacting.
Once they're finished, person B says something like "I'm afraid I have some bad news."
I started picking up on this a while back and it's used so damn often it's really started to get on my nerves.
BppnfvbanyOnxre@reddit
Balance in debate / science stories on one hand you have a professional qualified with requisite degrees, published research papers and for balance some 1/2 creationist with from the flat earth society.
Mr-_-Steve@reddit
Anything around channel 4 that claims to be "A Social Experiment"
No piss off, your putting people together promising them money if they stick around and almost guarantee a social influencer career the more drama they can create..
What your doing is fueling the mental health issues of all the generations.. Its cool you are helping the all inclusive future claiming you support the LGBTQ+ community as well as the BLM movement, but when your pushing programming filled with Gaslighting, bullying, proper gander and hate then your just the worst...
pimpledsimpleton@reddit
terrible exposition, people telling each other things they must already have known in an incredibly lame way that removes all immersion in the story. "ever since you graduated from cambridge with a 1st class degree in egyptology and went onto become the pre-eminent world expert in the secrets of the pyramids you've flown around the world discovering some of the most incredible things"... "yes... i know"
"the hunter and the hunted are similar in so many ways". "you will become the thing you hate". the backbone of most police thrillers.
Potato-starch-eater@reddit
Brilliant detective slowly loses himself to degenerative illness but masks his symptoms and persists with increasingly dangerous quests against doctor's advice. Wallander with Alzheimer's, George Gently with MS, Julien Baptiste with brain tumour to name a few. It's a tired old trope, I just want to see an old Detective retire peacefully after an illustrious career and grow tomatoes in their allotment.
BromleyReject@reddit
People falling / diving / being pushed into the sea / a river and the water is beautifully crystal clear.
And being able to hold their breath for 5 minutes while they navigate an exit amongst pipes, tubes, metal girders etc
nightsofthesunkissed@reddit
Man and woman falling in love, man makes a move on woman, everything going perfectly, and then he makes a move and she pushes him away, as though disgusted, offended or angry. for seemingly no reason at all. It confuses me so much.
Alternatively: Man and woman falling in love, woman expresses more angry passion during an argument, than romantic passion when they were happy.. Boring, dull, unrelatable.
I wish there were more women in romantic films who seemed enthused by the guy. Where are the films where the woman can't get enough of him and there's a sense of unfettered mutual adoration?
mr-seamus@reddit
My other half went to an all girls school and pointed out to me whenever the local news does the annual kids passing their A-levels thing they predominantly favour teenage girls in the filler footage to teenage boys. Her theory is because the camera operator is likely to be a man.
wirral_guy@reddit
Not just UK shows but a conversation that gets cut short by a scene change - in real life it would literally carry on until they got the answer
theloniousmick@reddit
When people some how innately know where someone is. They just come across them in a random location when the initial person was on a random walk in the countryside for instance. I know they can't show everything but my head cannon is about 40 minutes if phonecalls and texts going"have you seen Sharon I need to ask her something"
Bazahazano@reddit
Jelly in a jam jar.
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