Here is Mike Rogers declaring his full support for FISA wiretapping. He also says he wishes the Intel Community didn’t need a warrant. The neocons want him as FBI Director, libertarians should use every bit of their influence to push against this.

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Indentured_sloth@reddit

I don’t think this is necessarily true. Trump has a decent number of libertarian leaning people in his sphere

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s0p3rn1nja@reddit

I am still in shock that the overwhelmingly the posts I’ve read on this subreddit have supported Trump through this election cycle.

Most the rhetoric I have heard from his boasts the expansion of federal executive power, not limiting it. Sometimes when someone tells you what they are going to do, you have to listen to them.

Dictator on day 1. Weaponizing the justice department on day 1. Activating military assets to attack his enemies and use against the people.

And people didn’t like Chase Oliver because he was an openly gay candidate….am I the crazy one here?

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s0p3rn1nja@reddit

Obviously I’m oversimplifying…but honestly it drives me bonkers that if something or someone doesn’t perfectly fit every libertarian ideal then it’s terrible.

Never let perfect get in the way of better. If we wait for the perfect candidate, legislation, etc we will literally never make any progress whatsoever.

Sometimes an 80% solution is just the solution….for now.

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OpinionStunning6236@reddit

Are you saying this in support of Oliver or Trump? Because Trump is far from an 80% solution

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Neither. More that I was surprised leading up to and right after the election how many posts I saw on this sub that were pro-Trump. Personally I would take another 4 years of Biden laying in bed looking like grandpa Joe before I would endorse another Trump presidency. And that’s saying a lot for me.

I can’t help but wander if everyone just totally forgot the circus that was his last presidency. Not to mention that during that time he looked up to and idolized authoritarian world leaders while simultaneously alienating our democratic Allie’s.

Fast forward to this election and he is literally going into it telling us his playbook, both directly (his own words) and indirectly (through his sycophants and project 2025). He has a republican house, senate, and Supreme Court, and although he had opposition in his last term to check and balance, I feel those have eroded dramatically.

This term will look incredibly different. And judging by the picks I have seen thus far for his cabinet….mike rogers for FBI director(see OP), Matt gaetz for attorney general (under ethics investigation for statutory rape), Tulsi Gabbard for director of national intelligence (accused of Russian collusion/spying), Linda McMahon education secretary (fucking WWE founder), Pete Hegseth for SECDEF (Fox News anchor?!?!), Brenda Carr to lead FCC (help author project 2025 and wants to extend power of FCC to regulate online content and providers).

Elect a clown and expect a circus.

The 80% solution comment was in regards to general policy and legislation I have seen people on this sub talk down on because it wasn’t “libertarian” enough. It wasn’t specifically speaking about candidates but IMO Chase would have been a better pick than Trump.

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Robbie122@reddit

Most people here truly didn’t care so long as voting for trump was sticking it to the liberals. The entirety of this election could be that, trump doesn’t have any concrete plan but these vague grandiose ideas. based on that alone there’s no way anyone could’ve said they voted for him based on detailed policy or plan.

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19_Cornelius_19@reddit

Chase had zero chace of winning and was not a string candidate at all. He also denounced Ron Paul. The dude's a loser.

Anywho, Trump, who is not a Libertarian, still has some Libertarian principles such as less government. He wants to cut regulations; Kamala wanted more regulations.

How would he become dictator on day 1? He had 4yrs and failed to do that. How would whe weaponize the justice department? He had 4yrs and did not succeed there. How is he going to activate the military to attack his enemies and the people? If you're talking about the illegal immigrants, then fine they shouldn't be here. If you're talking about actually attacking US citizens, then that's a crazy notion.

Sounds like a whole lot of fear mongering, like always.

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AbolishtheDraft@reddit (OP)

You can not like Chase Oliver for being a clown and also not like Trump or his neocon appointees.

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SuckHerNipples@reddit

As someone from Michigan, our "primary" options for Senator were someone who worked for the CIA or Mike. As far as I'm concerned they were both garbage.

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AbolishtheDraft@reddit (OP)

I wish the GOP had nominated Justin Amash

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Individual-Arm9999@reddit

Justin for Senate

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AbolishtheDraft@reddit (OP)

Based

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Exciting_Vast7739@reddit

Always and forever. I literally cast one vote in the primary this year. It was for Justin.