Is Windows 11 Worth it?

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Tonny_Gaugh@reddit

Just wait a couple of months. I'm on W11 but the truth is that w10 is faster and less buggy

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Stargate_1@reddit

W11 has measurably better performance in games thi.

Also genuinely curious what bugs you've encountered so far. I've had no issues with neither 10 nor 11

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Parking_Chance_1905@reddit

This, I got about a 20% increase in performance across the majority of the games I play on an ancient (2013 build) hardware.

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emeralda_official@reddit

Nice bullshitting with 20% but there indeed isn't much performance loss, performance differs 1-5% at most between them so no difference

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IanMo55@reddit

How is 10 faster and what bugs are you talking about?

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CreatureofNight93@reddit

I upgraded to Windows 11 some months ago, and for me it runs a bit better than 10, I did though change the UI back to that of Windows 10.

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ItchySackError404@reddit

Just get windows 11.

And when you do, open command prompt as administrator and type:

reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve

And then restart your PC

This will change the right click menu back to the windows 10 layout which I recommend because the default right click menu on windows 11 is rage inducing.

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Parking_Chance_1905@reddit

Yep, why move some of the most used features onto a 2nd menu...

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ItchySackError404@reddit

And the fact that 7zip doesn't embed into the default.... I use that a lot

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The reason 7Zip doesn't show up in the new right click menu is because the API they're using for it has been deprecated and they never updated to the "new" API. And I put "New" in quotes there because it's like a decade+ old at this point. That's completely on 7Zip for not updating their code.

If you're interested NanaZip is a fork of 7Zip that corrects the right click menu, properly supports dark mode, and has a few other added features.

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ItchySackError404@reddit

I'll check it out, sounds nice if it matches your color mode!

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MobileVortex@reddit

They are icons at the top of the right click... Assuming you mean copy/paste/rename

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Parking_Chance_1905@reddit

Yeah, but muscle memory made even that change a little more than mildly irritating lol.

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IanMo55@reddit

Definitely a weird thing to do but it's easy enough to switch it back.

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sagarassk@reddit

Just to piggyback on this. I ended up spending $5 on "StartAllBack". I hate the new apple style taskbar. I also wanted my tray icons back and the windows 7 style of the file explorer. Best $5 i've ever spent.

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MariusTheUnyielding@reddit

Dude. You literally just made my life so much better. Thank you.

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Martini1@reddit

Does Openshell/classicshell not work on Windows 11? I used it on windows 10 to get an actually functional start menu in it.

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throwmeawaydoods@reddit

it does work, i will say that the win11 start menu is a lot more functional than 10 (though it’s still not the same as the classic list view if you prefer that)

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Emerald_Flame@reddit

What are the differences?

Better HDR support
Better multi-monitor support
Better support for CPUs with different core types (ie. Intel's P and E cores / AMD's CPUs where only some cores have 3D vcache)
File explorer has tabs now
The start menu is different
The right click menu options can be different if app developers haven't updated to the "new" API ("new" in quotes because it's like a decade old at this point)
More settings have moved out of the legacy control panel and into the settings app

Is it worth it?

At this point, it's more or less personal preference. However, you have less than a year left to upgrade. W10 receives it's final security update in 2025-10. After that point, Windows 10 realistically will no longer be safe to use when connected to the internet due to new security flaws that won't ever be patched. You need to update to W11 by then.

how do I prevent it from popping up more?

Update

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mprevot@reddit

There will be patches for W10, but to be paid.

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Emerald_Flame@reddit

That is correct, you can get up to 3 years of extended support if you're willing to pay for it, but it's not exactly cheap for most people.

Year 1: $61
Year 2: $122
Year 3: $244

For the vast majority of people, it's going to be a lot easier and cheaper to just upgrade. Even if their current hardware isn't supported, and you don't want to side-step some of the requirements, it's likely going to be cheaper to upgrade than it will to pay for the updates.

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mprevot@reddit

I think the security flaws are overestimated. The last build is old, patched converged likely to some higher level of security.

Anyway, I think I remember the prices will be lower for consumers.

How many users of W7 kept using it after end of support ?

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Emerald_Flame@reddit

I think the security flaws are overestimated. The last build is old, patched converged likely to some higher level of security.

It's really not. Over the past decade plus, we've generally seen that once an OS goes out of support, significant security issues that were previously unknown come out of the woodwork pretty quick. It's pretty common that this close to to an EoL if blackhats are finding major security flaws, they sit on them and keep them silent until the EoL date so they don't draw attention to it so it goes unpatched and they can exploit it essentially forever after the EoL passes.

How many users of W7 kept using it after end of support ?

Lots. And lots were also victims of identity theft, fraud, etc due to the insecurity of the OS.

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mprevot@reddit

https://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/26/32238/2/Microsoft-Windows-10.html?sha=bb510aef8e2160713b6ae094ae5eee8847b820f0&order=3&trc=67

https://mspoweruser.com/analysis-shows-over-the-last-decade-windows-10-had-fewer-vulnerabilities-than-linux-mac-os-x-and-android/

Do you have data or links about "lots were also victims of identity theft, fraud, etc due to the insecurity of the OS" ?

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amfaultd@reddit

Just prolonging the inevitable.

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bobsim1@reddit

Well thats time were i use a well proven product instead of goong to a new one. If you need your system running you should test win11 before 10 runs out of support. If it isnt as important you can just as well wait for a while. There isnt much benefit to upgrading now if you dont need the new features.

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DokCrimson@reddit

W11 has been out 3 years…

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bobsim1@reddit

That doesnt make it better. Win 10 is even older and has still problems.

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MobileVortex@reddit

And only offered to enterprise customers

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mprevot@reddit

no, consumers too

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Pajer0king@reddit

Me, still using win 7 🥰

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logangrowgan2020@reddit

absolutely not it sucks, you'll just spend more time customizing it to be like win10. win11 is worst windows since 8

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polishfemboy_@reddit

In my opinion no.

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FakeMishraJee@reddit

Just install Debian 12

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JKLopz@reddit

Yeah, not as bad as people make it to be, its not a Win 7 vs Win 8 type of upgrade. There are some changes and you might have to configure stuff to make it look/feel like win 10, but that's it. (I'm currently using both, 10 on personal PC and 11 in work pc, most of the time I don't even notice a difference {I'm waiting to upgrade my storage situation to do a fresh install of win 11}).

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nyctophobiax@reddit

I had windows 11 since its release and never had any issues I’m surprised people are still debating on the upgrade 3 years after its release

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discoKuma@reddit

because it still has plenty of bugs.

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discoKuma@reddit

I had to downgrade to Win10 two days ago because Warzone kept crashing on 11. Some mandatory subsystem I couldn’t disable was causing issues, and VMware Workstation Pro runs way better on 10 than on 11—at least for me. Not sure why, but otherwise, the experience on 11 was great. Lots of improvements, but also things I didn’t like. Overall, it’s good.

Just stick with 10 until it’s done—no rush.

As for the pop-up, I just closed it, and it never came back.

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DokCrimson@reddit

Just use W11. LTSC should only be used in circumstances where the software/hardware you use isn’t functional on W11. Otherwise the world moves on and compatibility will be for just W11

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Mr_Jackabin@reddit

Just get it, Windows 10 is at end of life and 11 is decent for things like HDR etc

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AbhishMuk@reddit

Standard windows 10 is near EOL. Win10 LTSC IOT will give security updates till 2032.

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DokCrimson@reddit

IOT.

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SeafoodDuder@reddit

There are things you can download to make windows 11 look just like windows 10. It's worth it to make the move.

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IanMo55@reddit

Such as?

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mprevot@reddit

explorer patcher too. free

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IanMo55@reddit

Thanks.

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SeafoodDuder@reddit

Like OpenShell: https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/

There are other options like: -https://www.startallback.com/

-https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/how-to-make-windows-11-look-and-feel-like-windows-10

But I've only ever used OpenShell.

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IanMo55@reddit

Ok. Thanks for those.

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SeafoodDuder@reddit

np :)

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EvilDan69@reddit

IF/when you do, clean install. Don't upgrade.

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mprevot@reddit

I keep W10 enterprise/workstation so far and maybe beyond october 2025. I find the GUI of W11 too complicated to get the same things. But it's also more unified and nicer, many good features too (HDR, etc). But do you need them ? Also you give up on some control over your OS.

Also, can you update ? ie., do you have tpm2 chip ? do you understand what is involves ?

I invite you to try W11 in a virtual machine.

If security is a priority or a problem, W11 is a good update with default settings. But a properly set up W10 box is good too, maybe better since it's more stable (less new features), so the security converges to optimal coverage.

W10 ltsc 2021 or W11 ltsc 2024 (same build as Windows server 2025: 26100) are also good candidates if you look for security and stability long for 10 years.

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wiseude@reddit

Is your pc a gaming pc?if so w10 is better simply by the fact it doesn't have tpm/vbs which have been proven to reduce performance.

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TrickyPianists@reddit

YES AND HELL NO.

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ltecruz@reddit

Made the change 2 months ago - 0 problems.

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BlatantPizza@reddit

Sounds great what an amazing endorsement.

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Ozi-reddit@reddit

11 is a lot worse in many ways ...
if don't want nag non retail is way to go, LTSC

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orasatirath@reddit

bloatware11

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BeardedBears@reddit

No, but it's not like you have much of a choice. Either hang on for about another year, then upgrade, or start tinkering with Linux.

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Accomplished_Emu_658@reddit

I think so for security updates and some features. Also it will stop bugging you. It takes a bit of getting used to.

I loved windows 10 but once i got used to 11 it’s good. Not perfect sure.

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