Update on Chinese vessel suspected of sabotage of undersea cables

Well it’s not fact checked as we can not certainly tell if the Chinese vessel is responsible. But multiple sources are reporting on the incident. +the time table of the vessel and them trying to escape the nearing navy as seen on tracking maps + a Russian captain. More then suspicious if you’d ask me

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Totally_man@reddit

The ship was in Russia on November 10th

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bearfootmedic@reddit

This is the answer. I dunno why everyone is getting hung up on it being a Chinese ship - ships get flashed in all sorts of weird places. This is a Russian op

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ComingInSideways@reddit

Yes, most US ships used to be registered to Panama.

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hectorxander@reddit

Ah well that makes sense, there is no reason for the Chinese Government to sever cables. The Russians are obviously behind it.

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totpot@reddit

Putin directly asked Musk not to enable Starlink for Taiwan, as a favor to Xi. Not a surprise that Xi would also be doing favors for Putin.

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lerpo@reddit

Agreed, and I'm glad you've put in the caption it's not verified. The issue with a fair amount of people is they run with the headline and just assume it fact.

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vncrose@reddit (OP)

Yes and it’s a huge problem currently for worldwides society how we deal with facts and "news". There needs to be a change in either behavior or better algorithms asap.

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HuggyTheCactus5000@reddit

Fact check international espionage? I think it is easier to ask Putin directly at this point.

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LemonSparkTheUnwise@reddit

Who's worried? I think that's a wild headline. That's all.

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Atheios569@reddit

They’ve done it before though.

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I_make_things@reddit

They also cut 2 telcom cables at the same time.

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Totally_man@reddit

The ship was in Russia on November 10th.

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Bubskiewubskie@reddit

How could you prove it

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Mars_target@reddit

Weird that I as a Dane barely find any mention of this in the news and have to see it on here. There's been no news to us about boarding, just that the ships were following it.

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WillBottomForBanana@reddit

I know this is still developing.

Could this very suspicious ship be a decoy? e.g. another ship did the cutting and this one is [somehow] provable as not the culprit? Classic "make the victim look irrational" stuff.

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HaveYouAwoken@reddit

“By the time Yi Peng 3 entered Danish waters, multiple Danish naval vessels had already been dispatched to monitor its movements.“

Under careful watch the Chinese ship was able to significantly damage critical infrastructure. Just goes to show that we need decentralized infrastructure now more than ever.

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Ralfsalzano@reddit

What do these cables even do

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lerpo@reddit

Data, so Internet and communication. But the Internet is set up to purposely redirect itself to other nodes if they do break (it's happened before where sharks have bitten through undersea cables) and it just gets redirected

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Ralfsalzano@reddit

That’s what I thought, it’s the equivalent of geopolitical petty vandalism

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AppropriateGoal4540@reddit

Not necessarily just petty vandalism. They might want traffic to flow through other compromised nodes. Or they might want to know exactly how long it will take to repair the link in the event of war with NATO.

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hectorxander@reddit

They could be both redirecting traffic while still sabotaging it out of general principle. That principal being they are emulating nazis.

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m0ntsta@reddit

Nazis redirected internet traffic?

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hectorxander@reddit

They attacked their neighbors. They also scapegoated and ran an oppressive security state that ruthlessly executed other Germans that stood in their way of seizing power. Both also qualities Russia has today.

Putin is hardly shy about it, they are directly sponsoring and helping fascist groups across the west, and those groups are quite close to taking elections, and will no doubt try to fix future ones if and when they get in.

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m0ntsta@reddit

It was a joke

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hectorxander@reddit

It was not unlike when our brave revolutionary heroes took the airports from the British.

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Accurate-Mess-2592@reddit

We know the Russians have a sub that is specifically designed to dock to these cables and splice in monitoring equipment to collect data. They could be damaging one line to redirect all Internet traffic into a compromised line allowing them to harvest every bit of data moving to and from the two counties. Pretty simple yet extremely effective.

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lerpo@reddit

Basically yeah. We did a research paper on this for my masters (cyber security) last year, and from a legal standpoint it's not an act of war. It's basically as you've defined it

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steelersfan1020@reddit

If somehow all of them were severed, would people still be able to access websites hosted in their own countries?

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lerpo@reddit

Yes, websites are just stored on severs around the world. So local ones would be fine.

But it would be a mental task to destroy ALL connections, and by that point you'd also need to scramble the satellite Internet connections.... Which (for example) is more or less impossible with things like starlink because there are so many individual Sats to connect to if one goes down

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AntiSonOfBitchamajig@reddit

At 18TB/s no less, HUGE bandwidth.

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fanclubmoss@reddit

Do they find any cable cutters? /s

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Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit

Another one of china's grey zone skullduggery.

What's the worse that can happen here? 1. The PLA-N intervenes, becomes a messy situation and drags EU into heightened tensions with China. 2. China pulls a tactic from its hostage diplomacy playbook and pressures the foreign officials of boarding navy's country. 3. China play's victim and calls out EU countries for intervening in waters outside of their region

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m0ntsta@reddit

*Skulduggery