It’s actually my second Mk 7. The first was a ‘15 TDI SEL. Now that was a real unicorn car. They were only on the market about 6 months before Dieselgate and the stop sale. Not a ton of em sold, not many of ‘em were fully loaded SELs especially being a stick car. The Manual TDIs were mostly base models.
If you can believe it, I’ve owned 3 Golfs but never even driven a GTI. Went straight from 2 TDIs to the R.
I did consider a GTi instead of the R, but not seriously. To get the features I wanted I would have been looking at an Autobahn and at that point the R was “only” like $6k more.
No I do not. It's a stage 1 currently which is at or a bit above GTI power. Plan is to do an IS20 turbo and FBO, possibly next summer. I just really like wagons and the US has shit for options.
I tried like hell to convince my wife to buy a 19R, but she insisted on the 24. It's already biting us in the ass, car was in the shop for phantom touch button issues yesterday.
In the first 500 km, they changed my rear diff, passager side window mechanism et left front caliper. Still have all sorts of noise when moving. This is my last VW.
I also have a MK8 R, and my car at 2000 miles was in the shop yesterday to investigate why the overhead capacitive buttons decided to call roadside assistance all on their own for 20 minutes last Friday.
The buttons might not be an issue in some cars, but they sure as hell are in others. Furthermore I'd be willing to bet physical buttons wouldn't have the "phantom touch" issue. Do you agree?
Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race – I don’t remember what race - he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula One driving today too complicated with twenty and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical programme during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?
The Arteon is actually really interesting. 2022 and later have the drivetrain from the Golf R. A tuned one would be a subtle rocketship. Ditch the goofy stock wheels, black wrap the chrome bars on the grill, maybe even a GT2653 turbo for nearly 500hp? They will not hold their value at all, and will be very VERY good deals on the used market.
As someone who owned 2 top of the line 4motion executive package CCs, (09 and 13) - the depreciation is very similar, and I intend to capitalize on a slept on value.
Yeah the CC is a similar niche as a value proposal. Only thing I don't like is the weight, just under 4k lbs. Golf R powertrain but 600lbs heavier. That's where it seems really interesting to do a fully built one. Price aside an Audi S5 sportback would be the obvious choice in a nearly identical form factor, but similar mileage ones are like $15k more than an Arteon. But you do get a hell of a lot more - quattro vs haldex, V6 , etc.
Oh interesting, I would not have expected that. So more like an A6 then. Would not matter to me as a single guy but again I would not have guessed that. Really I just want an A4 Avant with roof rails for my canoe and a hitch for my bike rack. But as always we don't get the cool stuff unless you have $130k for an RS6
It would be in one of the top spots for me except for the engine. Now there's nothing wrong with the ea888 it just isn't very interesting. If they had gone ahead with the turbo vr6 that was rumored in development then that's a different story but they chickened out.
The Passat itself for that matter. Preferably fully redesigned and not with a single miserable engine option running an 8.5s 0-60. 2020-2022 Passat was terrible lol.
Rabbit truck would probably sell, if they keep it to its roots of cheap, small and efficient. Cause there's basically no other truck that meets that criteria. Maybe the maverick if they gave it a full bed.
With EPA requirements about to drop i could see it being decent if gas is cheap. A W12 might be a bit much but definitely some actually fun to drive cars could definitely be viable again.
One of the main reasons why VW is tumbling globally is because their management hat this mindset left. I live close to their HQ and was working in the industry and it is astonishing how backwards the German mindset is. In the meantime China needs about 3-5 more years to have completely surpassed us.
They forgot to mention the other part of the business plan is to let people buy cars with karma rather than real money, so people can finally buy the cars they make Reddit comments saying they'd buy.
Sales of brown manual wagons are through the roof!
I have a W12 Phaeton. I wouldn't recommend ownership to anyone. Maintenance costs are too high, everything is always breaking including all these plastic parts, and parts are not available hardly anywhere. I have to get parts from latvia.
VW announced something of a tie-up with Rivian last week with a figure of $5.8 billion quoted, though I don’t know exactly what that means. The new guy is ex-Rivian apparently. Maybe the former CEO opposed the deal.
Oh that'll be interesting. I think the Scout collab or whatever it is, is finally a good EV project by a legacy automaker. Maybe they'll push that and some decent cars that aren't boring as shit.
It's different in several respects. Where Rivian is midsize, Scout is literally beyond full-size. Where Rivian and Cybertruck are unitized, Scout is body-on-frame. So people who want a VERY large and VERY rugged truck will be into it. Moving that much mass is going to require an enormous amount of pricey batteries, which in turn suggests this thing is going to be a 6-figure proposition. In short, it's competing with the Hummer EV: an enormous, rugged, expensive truck. Is there enough room in the marketplace for, effectively, two Hummers? I doubt it. I'm not even sure there's room in the market for one Hummer.
Not quite. The scout numbers initially published show the width with mirrors. Updated numbers say it's exactly 79.9 in wide just like all other full size trucks. The other dimensions line up nicely with competing full size trucks.
IMO, if Scout can actually deliver on that range extender concept, they'll be on to something. I know EV people hate hybrids but the reality remains that batteries still suck for towing, hauling, and off road applications and they aren't touching the energy density of liquid fuel any time soon.
Of course the concepts they showed left a lot of information up to speculation and rumors at the moment predict they'll at least need a 3 cylinder turbo or 4 cylinder engine just to keep up with the energy demand for highway driving. Ram has a similar product due for production soon using a v6 just to charge the battery.
More off-road focused. While the R1T is good off-road, the R1S really shouldn't see anything worse than a dirt road. The bonus for Scout is that they will offer a diesel generator add-on for overlanding.
I think we may reach a point where cars will be like smartphones. They'll all be the same for the most part, and differences will be completely cosmetic
Fair point, I think, for me, it's the design. EV's all look weird to me design-wise. I don't own one but I would own one if a truck just looked like a normal ass truck. Was a fan of the Rivian R1T but the front end looks meh to me. Scouts design looks understated enough that I wouldn't mind buying it. That said, you bring up a good point if the actual final product isn't a shitbox on wheels that'll die off the second I plug my toaster in the back.
Between where VW is right now, inflation, poor quality overall in the car market, high interest rates, etc., it just feels like it's much more likely for them to get it wrong than right. Hope I'm wrong. A decent midsize EV truck would for sure interest me.
A decent midsize EV truck would for sure interest me.
The Scout they showed is full size not midsize. Not saying they can't do a midsize but VW definitely seems to want a piece of the lucrative full size market which they've never competed in.
I would add, their published dimensions are still up for debate. They claim over 90in wide when the federal limit before you have to start adding market lights in 80 in. All Full size trucks fall under that 80in mark for this reason except for duallies, and specific models like the Raptor and TRX.
It's not impossible they go straight for the Raptor and make it 90in but this doesn't leave much on the table for a future off road trim and ignores the potential for work truck customers which can be a very beneficial market.
They've since updated the dimensions. They said their original dimensions included the mirrors and the tire carrier. The Traveler is now listed as 79.9" wide and 190.9" long without tire carrier. The Terra is the same width but 229" long.
Isn't that the truck that doesn't use frame mounts but instead uses something like 75 fasteners that all need to be perfectly aligned to slot into the holes? The same truck that requires you to take the fenders and hood off to fix a rear bumper?
Yes I’m sure and you never touch your hvac because you have it set to auto. Yada yada.
Turns out some people like physical controls and like to fiddle with settings. Like, millions of people given that most car interiors have been re-gaining buttons in the most recent refreshes.
Nowhere near enough to justify the cost to develop. Especially in this market saturated with off road ICE SUV's and trucks. The Scout would just be another also ran that showed up almost a decade late to the party. The also lack the dealership network and brand image to actually be relevant to customers since almost no one that isn't an enthusiast even remembers the old Scout's and furthermore, VW doesn't even have a good truck and SUV engine to use for the thing.
I wouldn't even consider it insider info.
VW has been backing Scout the whole time.
VW Publically put a large sum into Rivian.
Scout's team has people from Porsche, Tesla, VW, VW Vortex (hi Jamie) doing PR, Lucid, and Fisker (they don't make noise when they start up, just so you know).
Scout showed their ladder style truck frame that isn't unibody and their plant has been planned and in production for awhile. Sucks to need to take 77 North from Columbia now.
The insider stuff I was told was like who the CEO of VW stepping down for the replacement. The other benchmarked vehicles. The range extender engine thoughts. The solid rear axle (because you could see it) and so on.
My buddies at Michelin got paid for testing so you knew it would have KO3s since it's the only off-road tires that still has good on-road capability with the presence and low-ish roll resistance.
Then the concept was sitting on them.
Scout also made sure A LOT of their old names, trim levels, and colors were trademarked(copy written?) so they could use them.
I applied for a marketing position even but the car isn't coming out for AWHILE so it's a back burner portion.
Just means VW paid a billion plus for software licensing --
one billion dollar convertible note in June 2024 - converts in December 2024 to equity at 10.84 a share
December 2024 - 1.32b cash payment for licensing existing rivian software
2025 - VW will invest a further billion dollars to buy new rivian shares at a 33% premium - buts its condition on two quarters of gross margins or two quarters $50m gross profit
2026 - another billion if VW successfully launches new cars with the Rivian derived software
2026 #2 - billion dollar loan with ten year term
2028 460 million dollar equity buy at premium
Rivian likely will not earn the 2025 billion - not only did they not show any improvement in Q3 for their profit margin - I think it was worse - they make 13k vehicles and only delivered 10k
He left Rivian earlier this summer. Though I do find it extremely interesting (and too coincidental) he takes over VW America right after their investment in his former employer.
This may be a reach, but I honestly believe that VW killed their business in America by pivoting too much towards the U.S market. It already happened once- in the early/mid 80s customers and reviewers slammed the Volkswagens made in the Westmoreland, PA plant, as having too cheap an interior with too soft suspension, both features designed to cater to the American market. To quote the Wikipedia article,
"Neither buyers nor company executives in Germany were pleased with the Americanization of the Rabbit using a softer suspension, less expensive interior materials and decidedly un-Germanic color-keyed interiors.^([19])Popular Mechanics said "inside is where you really see the Americanization of the Rabbit, the interior is comfortable but puffy. In fact, it's downright tacky"^([17]) – adding that the side marker lights on the Rabbit looked as if they "came off a kid's bike."
It's worth noting that the decline in Rabbit and Jetta sales from this time period was also in part due to the declining popularity of small cars in the wake of the fuel crisis ending. But still, VW's sales began to rise again once they reintroduced the character they had. Volkswagen is arguably one of the only mass market car brands that was ever able to sell their cars based oncharacter.Hagerty did a great section on this in the it VW ID Buzz video. Think about it. Before they discontinued it in the US, was the regular old Golf really any better on paper than the Corolla to most buyers? Not really. VWs reputations for reliability and quality ihave always been checkered to say the least, and their cars aren't packing the most advanced new features either, nor are they notably cheaper. The one advantage VW ever had in their normal, non-performance cars was the TDI models' mileage, longevity and getup, and even then those diesels had a very special character element to them. VW was the only maker of mass-market diesel cars in the USA, just like they were the only maker of wagons in recent years, one of the only makers of mass market manuals, and had a unique style to all their cars. The sporty attitude. The plaid seats in GTIs. The premium features that only VW offered in compact cars for the longest time (power leather seats were optional in MK4 Jettas and B5 Passats).
Where VW went wrong, besides the fiasco of Dieselgate and lying to thousands of customers and several world governments, was in getting too greedy and trying to increase their U.S sales volumes by American-izing their cars. To be fair to them, Volkswagen's sales had cratered after trying to pivot their brand to a more premium standing in the U.S market. The Passat is the perfect example of what happened to Volkswagen. The Passat became too premium and too expensive, so VW lowered it's price made an Americanized version without everything that made it worth buying over, say, a Camry or an Accord- the wagon versions, the AWD versions, etc. The Passat Alltrack's they sold in Europe would've sold like hotcakes here, especially with an optional TDI engine- the only other options in the "lifted AWD wagon" marketspace were Volvos and the Subaru Outback. Until recently Subaru sold the only AWD midsize sedans and compact cars, while VW had been selling AWD Golfs, Golf Sportwagens and Passats in Europe for years. VW had an option to break into several segments with little competition, and even tried a little bit at the end of the 2010s, with the AWD Golf Sportwagens and Alltracks. But overall, they abandoned a loyal customer base to make bland, uninspiring, uninteresting crossovers that nobody wants to buy, in an attempt to expand their market share, and I think that, combined with the rising popularity of SUVs, something VW is NOT renowned for, is a major reason for their fall in sales.
Volkswagen is arguably one of the only mass market car brands that was ever able to sell their cars based on character.
What was GM's brand ladder if not a way to choose which type of character suited you: Erstwhile Pontiac, the chevy with more plastic cladding and a more sporty character or Oldsmobile, the refined Chevy. And GMC's model revolves around selling Chevys with a whiff of rugged outdoorsy character and luxury. A different type of character from VW sure, but character nonetheless
I mean, have you ever sat in a base spec Corolla then got into a (US) base spec Jetta? The Jetta has always felt more premium than the corolla and a step above when comparing similar trims. Reliability notwithstanding, both the Jetta/Golf have been in the odd middle ground above true economy compacts like the Corolla/Civic, but bellow premium class compacts like the Lexus IS/Acura Integra. To be honest, I think Mazda does a better job at the moment bridging that gap than VW has in decades, but that’s another conversation
I actually never got in a base US spec of any of those cars as I'm up in Canada... I checked out the jetta and corolla this year as well as many other vehicles as I bought a car just two months ago. You're right, the Jetta is a step up, but only ONE step up... much less than the previous generations. I had an mk5 that I absolutely cherished, that seemed leagues ahead of the competition at the time and when I bought it new in 2009 it was priced competitively as well... I remember when a Civic or Corolla was equivalently optioned it was barely at all pricier.
For todays compact I agree the Mazda interior seems well put together but it is pretty dark and sad also... I ended up with a WRX because up here in Canada they are an incredible deal, as was the base Jetta and Corolla to be fair, but Civic and Mazda3 are priced way too high imo...
Yeah I rented a base 24 Jetta a few months back and man it was nice for a $23k car. A Corolla is likely way cheaper to run but it feels like a shitbox in comparison
I feel you, I haven't liked the cheaper models either, but if they go upmarket Audi is now in a bad place. Someone has to fill the lower tier; the overall lack expense of car ownership is killing the concept among young people
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No. That’s the average transaction price. There are plenty of cars well under 50K lol
First sentence when searching "average new car price": "The average transaction price (ATP) for a new car in the United States in 2024 is between $48,397 and $48,759, depending on the source"
That means people are choosing to spend more.
Honda, Toyota, and Mazda all have vehicles under $30K.
The idea that you have to pay more than $25K for a vehicle, let alone $45K is nonsense.
No, transaction price is a measure of what people are choosing to pay for cars. It has no bearing on the entry point into a given auto segment.
There are quite a few sub $25K cars on sale right now: Civic, Mazda 3, Corolla, Sentra, Versa, Kicks, Trax, Trailblazer, Mirage, Outlander Sport, Impreza, Legacy, etc.
People want features that they don't need, and that's fine, but you gotta pay to play.
They have a bad reputation in general, and what isn't talked about is that many garages will turn you away if you own anything German. This will leave you stuck dealing with only dealerships if you need repairs.
I have a friend who has a S-class Benz and the Benz dealer where he bought it originally turned him away from getting a lube/oil/filter service because he didn’t want to get hosed for the full A/B/C service fleecing.
My stepdad is a mechanic and has been for the better part of 40 years. He will turn away anything German unless its something simple like brakes, tires, oil change. If it's having a legit issue, he won't touch it. He lives in my hometown with about 100,000 people where there is no local VW dealer that will work on cars. There was one old man in town who would work on German, but he passed away a few years ago. Now anyone with German in that town have to drive about 2 hours away to get more than basic maintenance done.
I prefer working on German cars tbh, there’s way more information on them online and software is available to connect for everything for diagnosis. A lot of oem parts are cheaper on my e46 than my ford focus
Okay true, it sounds like you don't live in a huge city so I guess that makes sense. I feel like the only real downside in that case would be having to get the proprietary software tools; I worked on a VW as a kid a lot and they really weren't that crazy, and I had the VR6 which was the worst of the bunch
Which is why they have no angle anymore. They used to be baby audi, and cater to a niche market wanting upscale cars at a lower price, with compromises including space.
Now they're cheaper and bigger, which no longer makes them more "Audi-like" than competitors. What's left? Cars with not great reliability records like Toyota or Honda, but still aren't price competitive with Nissan or Hyundai/Kia.
What about their line up says they don't understand the American market? This is the second comment back to back saying that. If they wanted to cater more to Americans and save money they'd scrap the golf, Jetta, a3 and a4.
Vans don't sell well in the US why would prioritizes it? Also the Euro Buzz is smaller. They made 2 different versions because they where trying cater to the American market.
Well, that was just one example. They’ve been doing this for years going back. The US model introductions are always delayed. Nothing is ever out on time.
And you have to be kidding me about vans not being popular. If the Buzz was out two years ago, they would’ve been everywhere. Interest rates were low and people were clamoring for lifestyle vehicles
I will do it. Every car gets the Gen 4 EA888. Different turbos for different models. All of them hot swappable. Increase reliability and reduce costs by reducing variance. Everything is MQB all the time. No more business cards. Sales staff gives customers golf balls with their info on it. No more coffee in the service centers. Only ketchup. Only MQB.
I'm more inclined to believe they retire because they see the writing on the wall and it's much better for future opportunities to retire than be sacked as CEO
Just because there was record profits doesn't mean there was not stress navigating a multiple year pandemic that triggers a global supply chain crisis and inflation.
VW doesn't really have trucks and they wouldn't be able to compete if they tried. Better to lean into CUVs, hatchbacks (still a thing imho), and bring in a top-spec wagon to get the fanboys excited and bring them into the brand.
Unfortunately, due to the Chicken Tax, VW would have to build a plant in the US for the Amarok in order to sell it here, so the payoff probably isn't worth it.
They do understand the American market, we want cheap and big cars that are simple. There is a reason why we get the Atlas and a different version of the Tiguan and had a different Passat.
This is a complete non issue for VW of America considering that the GTI is a niche product that is basically only still sold in the US because it generates goodwill.
If they do, they must not be particularly good at executing on it? Their US specific models are all regularly ranked pretty poorly in comparison testing. Plus, their sales figures have been pretty flat since they started making US specific product again so it's not even an success in the market.
I don't think the CEO of vw USA has the influence people here think.
The product strategy is decided by the product planning and marketing departments in Germany, which will have contacts in the USA, but it doesn't go through the CEO of VW USA
The problem is you can't blame VWOA. They constantly have to fight with the VW group to get anything here. The VW group doesn't get or care about the US.
Not since the 60s/70s really. The decided to go downmarket in the last decade or so to chase market share with bigger/cheaper American made cars and it kind of worked? Probably not nearly as well as they hoped and we might be seeing the ramifications of that now.
He most likely read the same rumors that have been floating around since early October that were saying that he was going to be given the boot. He can salvage whatever legacy he has left by leaving on his own accord versus waiting for another quarterly report that would seal his fate for sure.
The problem is that EVs are going to be a tough sell next year with the new administration coming in. The ID.Buzz is probably not going to be the saving grace it was hyped up to be and VW doesn't seem to have many alternatives for turning the ship around in NA.
Good riddance, this guy really fucked VW Argentina on his way out. I was incredibly surprised they rewarded him with the US spot, but the numbers must have been "good" considering the shitstorm that is VW at the moment.
Now the numbers are not good, the main branch from Germany NEEDS to start selling massive amounts of EVs (which they wont, because they are not that good and the market looking for EVs is not expanding as fast) so guy dipped after not getting anywhere with the dealears in the US (there were some interviews in spanish, in which he "politely complained" that the VW dealer network was uhm, "not budging with either the brand nor the customers"
altjacobs@reddit
Pick me! I will bring back the Phaeton, the W12 and aircooled ICE powertrains.
Hulahulaman@reddit
Buttons. I want a GTI with buttons.
ZZ9ZA@reddit
At this point I think I'm gonna keep my '17 R for as long as possible.
Perfect year car - last year of the analog main dash (speedo/tach, etc) and first year with adaptive cruise.
Sadly I'm dealing with health issues that will likely render me unable to drive stick in the next 5-10 years so the horizon is
Zlautern@reddit
I had a 17 GTI for a few years and loved it. Covid stole it from me. I am excited to eventually get a mk7.5 golf R but not for a year or two.
ZZ9ZA@reddit
It’s actually my second Mk 7. The first was a ‘15 TDI SEL. Now that was a real unicorn car. They were only on the market about 6 months before Dieselgate and the stop sale. Not a ton of em sold, not many of ‘em were fully loaded SELs especially being a stick car. The Manual TDIs were mostly base models.
Zlautern@reddit
I am currently driving a mk7 2017 Golf Sportwagen, its fine but not as fun as the GTI.
ZZ9ZA@reddit
If you can believe it, I’ve owned 3 Golfs but never even driven a GTI. Went straight from 2 TDIs to the R.
I did consider a GTi instead of the R, but not seriously. To get the features I wanted I would have been looking at an Autobahn and at that point the R was “only” like $6k more.
bikedork5000@reddit
Close. Perfect year car is my '19 Alltrack SEL 6MT.
ZZ9ZA@reddit
I do t think you have 300hp.
bikedork5000@reddit
No I do not. It's a stage 1 currently which is at or a bit above GTI power. Plan is to do an IS20 turbo and FBO, possibly next summer. I just really like wagons and the US has shit for options.
SRTie4k@reddit
I tried like hell to convince my wife to buy a 19R, but she insisted on the 24. It's already biting us in the ass, car was in the shop for phantom touch button issues yesterday.
tonytrouble@reddit
Wish I had analog sash. Digital is cool, but good ole analog, looks great. Never forget my Jetta GLX VR6 , sweet spot for sure.
DaOne_44@reddit
And a manuel, and it should be brown, and it should be a wagon
TryharderJB@reddit
I too want buttons. And I want them in the VR6 Corrado that should also be brought back.
joestabsalot@reddit
Scirocco?
ggouge@reddit
The buttons should be steampunk toggles though. I want cool buttons.
BP8270@reddit
With nixie tube trims
misterpickles69@reddit
Big metal throw switches for HVAC
keithplacer@reddit
Bring back Bowden cables for HVAC!
Onionsteak@reddit
It now have buttons, but it's on a 80's era RCA remote running on replaceable double A batteries.
rhunter99@reddit
I 3 buttons.
djseifer@reddit
Solomon Grundy want buttons too!
OreeOh@reddit
As long as you don't I D 3
Element_905@reddit
Don’t forget manual transmissions. Currently only the Jetta has it.
PrimitiveThoughts@reddit
I want a GTi with a W12
MatureUsername69@reddit
Here you go (it's not good)
bestselfnice@reddit
They made one!
1214161820@reddit
They made one, yes, but what about second GTI W12?
vwman18@reddit
I don't think he knows about Second W12, Pip.
Alieges@reddit
You know, that W12 in the back might be lonely. Perhaps it should have a VR6 up front too…
TheGeorgeForman@reddit
Sir, a second W12 has hit the GTI
p1plump@reddit
They didn't learn a thing from cadillac's buttonless adventures of the 201x's. .. . what the hell?
OpenlyBiCoastal@reddit
The new GTI mk8.5 now has steering wheel buttons, it’s the new Golf R that still has the dumb capacitive buttons.
Ray1340@reddit
I have a MK8 R, the car is not reliable but the capacitive buttons are not an issue.
epsiblivion@reddit
what issues are you seeing? the usual with steering wheel, sos, etc?
Ray1340@reddit
In the first 500 km, they changed my rear diff, passager side window mechanism et left front caliper. Still have all sorts of noise when moving. This is my last VW.
SRTie4k@reddit
I also have a MK8 R, and my car at 2000 miles was in the shop yesterday to investigate why the overhead capacitive buttons decided to call roadside assistance all on their own for 20 minutes last Friday.
The buttons might not be an issue in some cars, but they sure as hell are in others. Furthermore I'd be willing to bet physical buttons wouldn't have the "phantom touch" issue. Do you agree?
Shark00n@reddit
And analogue dials, fuck screens
G2idlock@reddit
Those are back. Not to worry, they did listen.
johnny_tifosi@reddit
Gentlemen, a short view back to the past.
bobj33@reddit
Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race – I don’t remember what race - he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula One driving today too complicated with twenty and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical programme during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?
fx2798@reddit
I want a GTI without red everywhere
helium_farts@reddit
Air cooled buttons
Dredgeon@reddit
If you want a GTI with buttons and a trunk and a stick shift get GLI
khanak@reddit
Bring back the manual gearbox and fix the waterpump issues.
knowledgeable_diablo@reddit
So you want it good?…. One thing at a time my friend.
PolarWater@reddit
Give me some knobs, too. We will live in utopia.
DM725@reddit
And a manual.
Zlautern@reddit
Give us the trucks and vans too.
Disastrous_Elk_4693@reddit
Bring me in as head of marketing. Let's bring back Peter Stormare and resurrect the Unpimp ze Auto commercials.
LachlantehGreat@reddit
Can I get a sportwagen
Itchy_Document_5843@reddit
I want the Touareg TDI back. It's the best luxury SUV ever.
awesomeperson882@reddit
Will you bring the Passat wagon back over?
MNWNM@reddit
OMG I had a 2005 Passat station wagon named Sweet Mocha Brown that was the best car I've ever had.
oidoglr@reddit
With a W8 and a manual again please. I’d love to own another.
gdnws@reddit
Now we're firing on all cylinders. Lets put it in a few more things while we're at it. The Arteon looks like a good candidate.
oidoglr@reddit
I drove a ‘23 Arteon this past summer and it’s in the top running as my next vehicle.
bikedork5000@reddit
The Arteon is actually really interesting. 2022 and later have the drivetrain from the Golf R. A tuned one would be a subtle rocketship. Ditch the goofy stock wheels, black wrap the chrome bars on the grill, maybe even a GT2653 turbo for nearly 500hp? They will not hold their value at all, and will be very VERY good deals on the used market.
oidoglr@reddit
As someone who owned 2 top of the line 4motion executive package CCs, (09 and 13) - the depreciation is very similar, and I intend to capitalize on a slept on value.
bikedork5000@reddit
Yeah the CC is a similar niche as a value proposal. Only thing I don't like is the weight, just under 4k lbs. Golf R powertrain but 600lbs heavier. That's where it seems really interesting to do a fully built one. Price aside an Audi S5 sportback would be the obvious choice in a nearly identical form factor, but similar mileage ones are like $15k more than an Arteon. But you do get a hell of a lot more - quattro vs haldex, V6 , etc.
oidoglr@reddit
The rear legroom in the Arteon is so much better than the Audi A5 Sportback, and I have kids who are following in my growth projection (I’m 6’3”)
bikedork5000@reddit
Oh interesting, I would not have expected that. So more like an A6 then. Would not matter to me as a single guy but again I would not have guessed that. Really I just want an A4 Avant with roof rails for my canoe and a hitch for my bike rack. But as always we don't get the cool stuff unless you have $130k for an RS6
gdnws@reddit
It would be in one of the top spots for me except for the engine. Now there's nothing wrong with the ea888 it just isn't very interesting. If they had gone ahead with the turbo vr6 that was rumored in development then that's a different story but they chickened out.
awesomeperson882@reddit
Why not go full bonkers, bring back the Golf Harlequin and throw a manual W8 AWD golf in the mix
gdnws@reddit
Absolutely no reason not to. I want to see the engine madness again so put anything in everything.
Pseudonym_741@reddit
With a rear-mounted engine like in the Clio V6.
goaelephant@reddit
Passat W12 Biturbo manual ... Front wheel drive
Imagine the torquesteer
GoochMasterFlash@reddit
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance picking up the kids from soccer looks like
bossrabbit@reddit
Exclusively in brown
awesomeperson882@reddit
North America does not have a brown diesel wagon option rn
historicusXIII@reddit
The Arteon wagon!
Stunt_Vist@reddit
I just want a new Lupo 3L. The up was absolute trash compared to that.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
The Passat itself for that matter. Preferably fully redesigned and not with a single miserable engine option running an 8.5s 0-60. 2020-2022 Passat was terrible lol.
B00marangTrotter@reddit
Bring me a sexy fast Scirocco with buttons and the the Rabbit and Rabbit truck.
settlementfires@reddit
Rabbit truck would probably sell, if they keep it to its roots of cheap, small and efficient. Cause there's basically no other truck that meets that criteria. Maybe the maverick if they gave it a full bed.
B00marangTrotter@reddit
Exactly my thinking too.
Aye_of_the_tiger@reddit
Ooooh rabbit truck
CODMLoser@reddit
Diesel Rabbit truck!!
EatSleepJeep@reddit
VR6! Hell, VR12!
Jake2k@reddit
I’ll fix the leaking sunroofs and find better plastics to use for coolant hoses and flanges. Vote for me!
bschmidt25@reddit
V10 TDI! V10TDI!
settlementfires@reddit
This guy has a comprehensive plan to bankrupt vw!
darknecross@reddit
Put the I5 into a golf you coward.
rhunter99@reddit
I like you
netWilk@reddit
I wish Canada would just accept European homologation, so that we could order the wagons with matrix headlights directly from Europe.
Zlojeb@reddit
Matrix is allowed in Canada afaik
netWilk@reddit
Now if only somebody would let VW know.
Zlojeb@reddit
Well Porsche (VW) does know.
rhunter99@reddit
Wagons would be nice to see on the road instead of suvs
bse50@reddit
They would be a welcome sight here in the old continent as well... :(
F1_Geek@reddit
Bring back the bug!
Ceramicrabbit@reddit
Surely that business plan could never fail
RunnerLuke357@reddit
With EPA requirements about to drop i could see it being decent if gas is cheap. A W12 might be a bit much but definitely some actually fun to drive cars could definitely be viable again.
Ceramicrabbit@reddit
Except people only buy SUV anymore
Drzhivago138@reddit
Welcome back to the US, Touareg
owdee@reddit
With the diesel V10?
hardinho@reddit
One of the main reasons why VW is tumbling globally is because their management hat this mindset left. I live close to their HQ and was working in the industry and it is astonishing how backwards the German mindset is. In the meantime China needs about 3-5 more years to have completely surpassed us.
Hustletron@reddit
You mean like when VWoA went bankrupt in the 90s?
SanchoMandoval@reddit
They forgot to mention the other part of the business plan is to let people buy cars with karma rather than real money, so people can finally buy the cars they make Reddit comments saying they'd buy.
Sales of brown manual wagons are through the roof!
biciklanto@reddit
I saw two W12 Phaetons parked in a driveway yesterday. That was a blast from the past mixed with envy of whomever owns those 24 cylinders.
(And no envy over their maintenance and repair bills)
wrxiswrx@reddit
I have a W12 Phaeton. I wouldn't recommend ownership to anyone. Maintenance costs are too high, everything is always breaking including all these plastic parts, and parts are not available hardly anywhere. I have to get parts from latvia.
improbablydrunknlw@reddit
I envy their trunk hinges
wrxiswrx@reddit
made by Italian bike company Campagnolo. They also produced wheels for ferrari and other italian marques.
biciklanto@reddit
Never seen those before. Amazing engineering.
improbablydrunknlw@reddit
Yeah they're pretty astounding eh.
rconn1469@reddit
Unfortunately the America CEO can’t decide much of shit. He’s just supposed to say “German daddy may we have some scraps?”
Amish_country_Rich@reddit
Yes sir, more ice options and I think this company might even thrive a little!
Mr_Robotox@reddit
V10 TDI Touareg!
bearded_dragon_34@reddit
As someone who recently acquired a Phaeton…yes.
PluckPubes@reddit
As someone who owned a phaeton... Let's see what you say in a couple years
Percolator2020@reddit
Reliable V10 TDI?
BP8270@reddit
You have my vote!
jackal1871111@reddit
I would vote for you
drags_@reddit
2 door Golf R with AWD please.
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Fit_Equivalent3610@reddit
Toyota is looking for more collaboration partners. W8 GR86 pls.
I will settle for VR6 GR86 but only if you call it the VR86.
Guzxxxy@reddit
So, products nobody will buy?
theflintseeker@reddit
Can you give the ID Buzz round headlights and make it $15,000 cheaper?
Carl-99999@reddit
The next 4+ years are going to be crazy. And not in a good way.
weristjonsnow@reddit
I really wanted an id4. They discontinued it the day after I test drove one. Very grumpy
OD_Emperor@reddit
Wait they already killed the id4?
MortimerDongle@reddit
No, but there is currently a stop sale and production halt in the US, and I haven't heard that they know exactly when it will end.
woolh@reddit
No. They even refreshed it for 24MY.
keithplacer@reddit
VW announced something of a tie-up with Rivian last week with a figure of $5.8 billion quoted, though I don’t know exactly what that means. The new guy is ex-Rivian apparently. Maybe the former CEO opposed the deal.
MigratingSwallow@reddit
Oh that'll be interesting. I think the Scout collab or whatever it is, is finally a good EV project by a legacy automaker. Maybe they'll push that and some decent cars that aren't boring as shit.
Ceramicrabbit@reddit
I don't really see the difference in most EV offerings they all seem pretty same-y. What would be better about Scout exactly
hutacars@reddit
How not? You think a Leaf is the same as a Taycan?
Yummy_Castoreum@reddit
It's different in several respects. Where Rivian is midsize, Scout is literally beyond full-size. Where Rivian and Cybertruck are unitized, Scout is body-on-frame. So people who want a VERY large and VERY rugged truck will be into it. Moving that much mass is going to require an enormous amount of pricey batteries, which in turn suggests this thing is going to be a 6-figure proposition. In short, it's competing with the Hummer EV: an enormous, rugged, expensive truck. Is there enough room in the marketplace for, effectively, two Hummers? I doubt it. I'm not even sure there's room in the market for one Hummer.
N0Name117@reddit
Not quite. The scout numbers initially published show the width with mirrors. Updated numbers say it's exactly 79.9 in wide just like all other full size trucks. The other dimensions line up nicely with competing full size trucks.
FogItNozzel@reddit
Scout is using a traditional body on frame design with a solid rear axle and mechanical lockers. Those all mean a lot of good things to truck guys.
Scout is also doing a range extender the right way, with an onboard generator (like the BMW i3).
There’s a lot there for truck enthusiasts to be excited about.
N0Name117@reddit
IMO, if Scout can actually deliver on that range extender concept, they'll be on to something. I know EV people hate hybrids but the reality remains that batteries still suck for towing, hauling, and off road applications and they aren't touching the energy density of liquid fuel any time soon.
Of course the concepts they showed left a lot of information up to speculation and rumors at the moment predict they'll at least need a 3 cylinder turbo or 4 cylinder engine just to keep up with the energy demand for highway driving. Ram has a similar product due for production soon using a v6 just to charge the battery.
Regardless, the Scout concept just looks cool
JBoy9028@reddit
More off-road focused. While the R1T is good off-road, the R1S really shouldn't see anything worse than a dirt road. The bonus for Scout is that they will offer a diesel generator add-on for overlanding.
shagistan@reddit
The R1S completed the Rubicon. I think it'll do fine
JonnyG_USA@reddit
I think we may reach a point where cars will be like smartphones. They'll all be the same for the most part, and differences will be completely cosmetic
Personal_Border4167@reddit
They just got sued by the NADA for trying to go DTC with Scout. I’m sure he’s fed up with the American dealer network.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
It's so far out from production and deliveries that the jury is still out in my opinion.
MigratingSwallow@reddit
Fair point, I think, for me, it's the design. EV's all look weird to me design-wise. I don't own one but I would own one if a truck just looked like a normal ass truck. Was a fan of the Rivian R1T but the front end looks meh to me. Scouts design looks understated enough that I wouldn't mind buying it. That said, you bring up a good point if the actual final product isn't a shitbox on wheels that'll die off the second I plug my toaster in the back.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Between where VW is right now, inflation, poor quality overall in the car market, high interest rates, etc., it just feels like it's much more likely for them to get it wrong than right. Hope I'm wrong. A decent midsize EV truck would for sure interest me.
N0Name117@reddit
The Scout they showed is full size not midsize. Not saying they can't do a midsize but VW definitely seems to want a piece of the lucrative full size market which they've never competed in.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Yup, definitely. I should have been more clear. I think the focus on full size is smart too.
N0Name117@reddit
I would add, their published dimensions are still up for debate. They claim over 90in wide when the federal limit before you have to start adding market lights in 80 in. All Full size trucks fall under that 80in mark for this reason except for duallies, and specific models like the Raptor and TRX.
It's not impossible they go straight for the Raptor and make it 90in but this doesn't leave much on the table for a future off road trim and ignores the potential for work truck customers which can be a very beneficial market.
supreet908@reddit
They've since updated the dimensions. They said their original dimensions included the mirrors and the tire carrier. The Traveler is now listed as 79.9" wide and 190.9" long without tire carrier. The Terra is the same width but 229" long.
N0Name117@reddit
Not saying you’re wrong but the website still lists the same 90+ inches for the width.
supreet908@reddit
It says 79.9" without mirrors here
nondescriptzombie@reddit
Isn't that the truck that doesn't use frame mounts but instead uses something like 75 fasteners that all need to be perfectly aligned to slot into the holes? The same truck that requires you to take the fenders and hood off to fix a rear bumper?
Fuck Rivian.
Standard-Juice-3738@reddit
F150 lightening looks pretty much like a normal F150. Just with light bars
luckymethod@reddit
Yeah that's imho the biggest issue with that truck. It's so clunky, the infotainment system is 100% Ford and it's not a compliment.
avoidhugeships@reddit
Ford infotainment is great. It has AA and carplay which is 95% of what most people want.
luckymethod@reddit
We apparently have very different standards.
probsdriving@reddit
The Ford infotainment could gain sentience, assume a physical form via a Boston Dynamics humanoid, and then kick my dog.
I would still rather use it vs. being forced to adjust vents via a screen.
HighHokie@reddit
Weird. I just set the vents and never touch them again.
probsdriving@reddit
Yes I’m sure and you never touch your hvac because you have it set to auto. Yada yada.
Turns out some people like physical controls and like to fiddle with settings. Like, millions of people given that most car interiors have been re-gaining buttons in the most recent refreshes.
HighHokie@reddit
Perhaps manufacturers are realizing they just aren’t very good with software.
Personally, I prefer to not fidget with controls and just focus on the drive.
bearded_dragon_34@reddit
That’s fair…but how many of us would rather have a Scout with an ICE? To me, it’s still a compromised product.
N0Name117@reddit
Nowhere near enough to justify the cost to develop. Especially in this market saturated with off road ICE SUV's and trucks. The Scout would just be another also ran that showed up almost a decade late to the party. The also lack the dealership network and brand image to actually be relevant to customers since almost no one that isn't an enthusiast even remembers the old Scout's and furthermore, VW doesn't even have a good truck and SUV engine to use for the thing.
TheDirtDude117@reddit
It was basically a way of VW to get their hands on some tech from Rivian but the cars were already designed as a concept before that showcase.
Source: SEO of Scout's son plays Soccer with me
Just_Here_To_Learn_@reddit
The true insider information.. while they’re playing Sunday league games together
TheDirtDude117@reddit
I wouldn't even consider it insider info. VW has been backing Scout the whole time. VW Publically put a large sum into Rivian. Scout's team has people from Porsche, Tesla, VW, VW Vortex (hi Jamie) doing PR, Lucid, and Fisker (they don't make noise when they start up, just so you know).
Scout showed their ladder style truck frame that isn't unibody and their plant has been planned and in production for awhile. Sucks to need to take 77 North from Columbia now.
The insider stuff I was told was like who the CEO of VW stepping down for the replacement. The other benchmarked vehicles. The range extender engine thoughts. The solid rear axle (because you could see it) and so on.
My buddies at Michelin got paid for testing so you knew it would have KO3s since it's the only off-road tires that still has good on-road capability with the presence and low-ish roll resistance.
Then the concept was sitting on them.
Scout also made sure A LOT of their old names, trim levels, and colors were trademarked(copy written?) so they could use them. I applied for a marketing position even but the car isn't coming out for AWHILE so it's a back burner portion.
ZeroWashu@reddit
Just means VW paid a billion plus for software licensing --
Rivian likely will not earn the 2025 billion - not only did they not show any improvement in Q3 for their profit margin - I think it was worse - they make 13k vehicles and only delivered 10k
deweysmith@reddit
It’s weird that the article says he’s former Rivian, because he was their CCO until today
potentially_electric@reddit
He left Rivian earlier this summer. Though I do find it extremely interesting (and too coincidental) he takes over VW America right after their investment in his former employer.
https://www.automotivedive.com/news/rivian-chief-commercial-officer-kjell-gruner-steps-down/722675/
toilet_ipad_00022@reddit
It's not weird at all. They invested in Rivian because they were impressed by what the leadership there was able to do.
I-STATE-FACTS@reddit
Does VW America really make such deals and not the main VW
No_Skirt_6002@reddit
This may be a reach, but I honestly believe that VW killed their business in America by pivoting too much towards the U.S market. It already happened once- in the early/mid 80s customers and reviewers slammed the Volkswagens made in the Westmoreland, PA plant, as having too cheap an interior with too soft suspension, both features designed to cater to the American market. To quote the Wikipedia article,
It's worth noting that the decline in Rabbit and Jetta sales from this time period was also in part due to the declining popularity of small cars in the wake of the fuel crisis ending. But still, VW's sales began to rise again once they reintroduced the character they had. Volkswagen is arguably one of the only mass market car brands that was ever able to sell their cars based on character. Hagerty did a great section on this in the it VW ID Buzz video. Think about it. Before they discontinued it in the US, was the regular old Golf really any better on paper than the Corolla to most buyers? Not really. VWs reputations for reliability and quality ihave always been checkered to say the least, and their cars aren't packing the most advanced new features either, nor are they notably cheaper. The one advantage VW ever had in their normal, non-performance cars was the TDI models' mileage, longevity and getup, and even then those diesels had a very special character element to them. VW was the only maker of mass-market diesel cars in the USA, just like they were the only maker of wagons in recent years, one of the only makers of mass market manuals, and had a unique style to all their cars. The sporty attitude. The plaid seats in GTIs. The premium features that only VW offered in compact cars for the longest time (power leather seats were optional in MK4 Jettas and B5 Passats).
Where VW went wrong, besides the fiasco of Dieselgate and lying to thousands of customers and several world governments, was in getting too greedy and trying to increase their U.S sales volumes by American-izing their cars. To be fair to them, Volkswagen's sales had cratered after trying to pivot their brand to a more premium standing in the U.S market. The Passat is the perfect example of what happened to Volkswagen. The Passat became too premium and too expensive, so VW lowered it's price made an Americanized version without everything that made it worth buying over, say, a Camry or an Accord- the wagon versions, the AWD versions, etc. The Passat Alltrack's they sold in Europe would've sold like hotcakes here, especially with an optional TDI engine- the only other options in the "lifted AWD wagon" marketspace were Volvos and the Subaru Outback. Until recently Subaru sold the only AWD midsize sedans and compact cars, while VW had been selling AWD Golfs, Golf Sportwagens and Passats in Europe for years. VW had an option to break into several segments with little competition, and even tried a little bit at the end of the 2010s, with the AWD Golf Sportwagens and Alltracks. But overall, they abandoned a loyal customer base to make bland, uninspiring, uninteresting crossovers that nobody wants to buy, in an attempt to expand their market share, and I think that, combined with the rising popularity of SUVs, something VW is NOT renowned for, is a major reason for their fall in sales.
Capri280@reddit
What was GM's brand ladder if not a way to choose which type of character suited you: Erstwhile Pontiac, the chevy with more plastic cladding and a more sporty character or Oldsmobile, the refined Chevy. And GMC's model revolves around selling Chevys with a whiff of rugged outdoorsy character and luxury. A different type of character from VW sure, but character nonetheless
Idratherhikeout@reddit
Subaru fits with VW
Montreal4life@reddit
the golf being better than the normal pedestrian corolla? of course. but the jetta? not so much
Galligan626@reddit
I mean, have you ever sat in a base spec Corolla then got into a (US) base spec Jetta? The Jetta has always felt more premium than the corolla and a step above when comparing similar trims. Reliability notwithstanding, both the Jetta/Golf have been in the odd middle ground above true economy compacts like the Corolla/Civic, but bellow premium class compacts like the Lexus IS/Acura Integra. To be honest, I think Mazda does a better job at the moment bridging that gap than VW has in decades, but that’s another conversation
Montreal4life@reddit
I actually never got in a base US spec of any of those cars as I'm up in Canada... I checked out the jetta and corolla this year as well as many other vehicles as I bought a car just two months ago. You're right, the Jetta is a step up, but only ONE step up... much less than the previous generations. I had an mk5 that I absolutely cherished, that seemed leagues ahead of the competition at the time and when I bought it new in 2009 it was priced competitively as well... I remember when a Civic or Corolla was equivalently optioned it was barely at all pricier.
For todays compact I agree the Mazda interior seems well put together but it is pretty dark and sad also... I ended up with a WRX because up here in Canada they are an incredible deal, as was the base Jetta and Corolla to be fair, but Civic and Mazda3 are priced way too high imo...
foreverablankslate@reddit
Yeah I rented a base 24 Jetta a few months back and man it was nice for a $23k car. A Corolla is likely way cheaper to run but it feels like a shitbox in comparison
Hustletron@reddit
Volkswagen is doing well here though.
Your rant has nothing to do with reality.
The only thing they need to fix is EVs. That’s too euro right now (all touch screen, silly tech and not as full of range).
UniqueThanks@reddit
They need someone who actually understands the US market. VW of America has been clueless for decades
Santa_Ricotta69@reddit
They literally cheapened their whole portfolio for you people lmao
trolololoz@reddit
Average new car price is approaching $50k. The American market has spoken and doesn’t really want a cheapened portfolio.
Santa_Ricotta69@reddit
I feel you, I haven't liked the cheaper models either, but if they go upmarket Audi is now in a bad place. Someone has to fill the lower tier; the overall lack expense of car ownership is killing the concept among young people
Hustletron@reddit
And it is the people’s car after all.
I say they adopt some skoda stuff for the us to give the brand more character and start selling cars that poors like me can rally behind!
modest_merc@reddit
And rally in!
DaggumTarHeels@reddit
Mods removed my edit because of the draconian domain filter.
No. That’s the average transaction price. There are plenty of cars well under 50K lol
First sentence when searching "average new car price": "The average transaction price (ATP) for a new car in the United States in 2024 is between $48,397 and $48,759, depending on the source"
That means people are choosing to spend more.
Honda, Toyota, and Mazda all have vehicles under $30K.
The idea that you have to pay more than $25K for a vehicle, let alone $45K is nonsense.
time-lord@reddit
Average just means a lot more masarattis on the road.
And I see a lot more of them. There's still a ton of cheap cars though.
DaggumTarHeels@reddit
No, transaction price is a measure of what people are choosing to pay for cars. It has no bearing on the entry point into a given auto segment.
There are quite a few sub $25K cars on sale right now: Civic, Mazda 3, Corolla, Sentra, Versa, Kicks, Trax, Trailblazer, Mirage, Outlander Sport, Impreza, Legacy, etc.
People want features that they don't need, and that's fine, but you gotta pay to play.
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No. That’s the average transaction price. There are plenty of cars well under 50K lol
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Smegma-Santorum@reddit
buying a VW made in Mexico is not a great deal
anonymouswan1@reddit
They have a bad reputation in general, and what isn't talked about is that many garages will turn you away if you own anything German. This will leave you stuck dealing with only dealerships if you need repairs.
Santa_Ricotta69@reddit
I own an AMG Benz and I've never been turned away from anywhere, it's crazy that would happen with a Jetta lmao
cptpb9@reddit
Nah outside big cities it’s a thing. I had a North American market only Passat and still had trouble finding someone to work on it
Santa_Ricotta69@reddit
That's wild to me. At least Germans use torx and not Phillips head screws!
cptpb9@reddit
Don’t give them ideas 😂
keithplacer@reddit
I have a friend who has a S-class Benz and the Benz dealer where he bought it originally turned him away from getting a lube/oil/filter service because he didn’t want to get hosed for the full A/B/C service fleecing.
anonymouswan1@reddit
My stepdad is a mechanic and has been for the better part of 40 years. He will turn away anything German unless its something simple like brakes, tires, oil change. If it's having a legit issue, he won't touch it. He lives in my hometown with about 100,000 people where there is no local VW dealer that will work on cars. There was one old man in town who would work on German, but he passed away a few years ago. Now anyone with German in that town have to drive about 2 hours away to get more than basic maintenance done.
Positive_Opposite885@reddit
I prefer working on German cars tbh, there’s way more information on them online and software is available to connect for everything for diagnosis. A lot of oem parts are cheaper on my e46 than my ford focus
Santa_Ricotta69@reddit
Okay true, it sounds like you don't live in a huge city so I guess that makes sense. I feel like the only real downside in that case would be having to get the proprietary software tools; I worked on a VW as a kid a lot and they really weren't that crazy, and I had the VR6 which was the worst of the bunch
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
What podunk shops do you go to?
Scary_One_2452@reddit
Which is why they have no angle anymore. They used to be baby audi, and cater to a niche market wanting upscale cars at a lower price, with compromises including space.
Now they're cheaper and bigger, which no longer makes them more "Audi-like" than competitors. What's left? Cars with not great reliability records like Toyota or Honda, but still aren't price competitive with Nissan or Hyundai/Kia.
k0fi96@reddit
What about their line up says they don't understand the American market? This is the second comment back to back saying that. If they wanted to cater more to Americans and save money they'd scrap the golf, Jetta, a3 and a4.
UniqueThanks@reddit
For starters, maybe not wait so long between European and US releases. The ID Buzz was out in Europe nearly two years ago
k0fi96@reddit
Vans don't sell well in the US why would prioritizes it? Also the Euro Buzz is smaller. They made 2 different versions because they where trying cater to the American market.
UniqueThanks@reddit
Well, that was just one example. They’ve been doing this for years going back. The US model introductions are always delayed. Nothing is ever out on time.
And you have to be kidding me about vans not being popular. If the Buzz was out two years ago, they would’ve been everywhere. Interest rates were low and people were clamoring for lifestyle vehicles
elVanPuerno@reddit
Department of Diesel Engine Emissions
97AllDay@reddit
ID7 Tourer
GTI/Golf R with buttons
Bring back Golf
AllTrack
kylesisles1@reddit
I will do it. Every car gets the Gen 4 EA888. Different turbos for different models. All of them hot swappable. Increase reliability and reduce costs by reducing variance. Everything is MQB all the time. No more business cards. Sales staff gives customers golf balls with their info on it. No more coffee in the service centers. Only ketchup. Only MQB.
steve626@reddit
Odd. The CEO of my company suddenly retired yesterday. Microchip Technology
k0fi96@reddit
I've read articles that CEOs tend to retries after tough economic times because the stress of the job just gets to them and they have enough money.
randomman87@reddit
I'm more inclined to believe they retire because they see the writing on the wall and it's much better for future opportunities to retire than be sacked as CEO
DreamzOfRally@reddit
The last 14 years has not been a tough financial time for any big company. Even 2020 there was profits records
k0fi96@reddit
Just because there was record profits doesn't mean there was not stress navigating a multiple year pandemic that triggers a global supply chain crisis and inflation.
DreamzOfRally@reddit
Which was 4 years ago. Supply chain issues related to covid resolved themselves after 2 years. So it’s been 2 years of normality.
k0fi96@reddit
Yeah when these resignations tend the happen once status quo is restored it's basically burnout
jimmyjunior44@reddit
Lmao mine did too, did yours start with a W?
Savings-Expression80@reddit
Usually they have advance notice. You don't give up that salary for nothing.
djwhiplash2001@reddit
EE here, love your products.
samcuu@reddit
They're getting married.
tractorcrusher@reddit
Aww 🥰
poopellar@reddit
In 9 months we're getting a 7nm car, yay!
DJMagicHandz@reddit
Now kith...
steve626@reddit
Maybe some openings on rich asshole Island opened up
steve626@reddit
Haha
gimpwiz@reddit
He finally realized they bought Atmel and said "fuck that!"
Big_Size_2519@reddit
VW USA has no idea what they are doing, Bring someone that understands the US market
PrivateAccount00001@reddit
gasoline v8 amarok
DavoinShowerHandel@reddit
US market, aka more CUVs?
trolololoz@reddit
And trucks
AdamN@reddit
VW doesn't really have trucks and they wouldn't be able to compete if they tried. Better to lean into CUVs, hatchbacks (still a thing imho), and bring in a top-spec wagon to get the fanboys excited and bring them into the brand.
LinuxNoob@reddit
You bring the rabbit truck back and you will print money.
dinkygoat@reddit
Amarok. Sure it's basically a Ranger and even built by Ford, but it exists.
But this is still true.
manosiosis@reddit
Unfortunately, due to the Chicken Tax, VW would have to build a plant in the US for the Amarok in order to sell it here, so the payoff probably isn't worth it.
squidwardsdicksucker@reddit
They do understand the American market, we want cheap and big cars that are simple. There is a reason why we get the Atlas and a different version of the Tiguan and had a different Passat.
uchigaytana@reddit
The big issue is them cutting manual transmissions for the Mk8 GTI when the BRZ, Supra, and new Z have such high take rates on the manual.
netWilk@reddit
GTI doesn't though. Of the global sales, 95% ordered the GTI with a DSG.
freebullets@reddit
I traded my manual GTI for a DSG GTI. No regrets. It's still a manual at heart and shifts better than I ever did, and my left hip isn't sore anymore.
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
It’s almost like half-adding the manual wasn’t a winning decision.
Mythrilfan@reddit
"Yeah but it's a different kind of manual we want on this niche product, see?"
Docist@reddit
Any source on this? Everything I’ve seen says it was nearly half in recent years
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pusch85@reddit
Yes, the big issue is them not catering to a niche of a niche marker.
Manual transmission fanboys are delusional.
huhwhat90@reddit
The reddit MBA program remains undefeated.
SireEvalish@reddit
The level of disconnect required to believe this is incredible.
CuddleTeamCatboy@reddit
This is a complete non issue for VW of America considering that the GTI is a niche product that is basically only still sold in the US because it generates goodwill.
TheBolognaPony@reddit
If they do, they must not be particularly good at executing on it? Their US specific models are all regularly ranked pretty poorly in comparison testing. Plus, their sales figures have been pretty flat since they started making US specific product again so it's not even an success in the market.
Antiparian@reddit
They had one, a good one, too. Guy born and raised in Long Island.
Never had the autonomy to run the business like he was promised.
ProjectZeus4000@reddit
I don't think the CEO of vw USA has the influence people here think.
The product strategy is decided by the product planning and marketing departments in Germany, which will have contacts in the USA, but it doesn't go through the CEO of VW USA
brennok@reddit
The problem is you can't blame VWOA. They constantly have to fight with the VW group to get anything here. The VW group doesn't get or care about the US.
TheThunderbird@reddit
The new guy is mentioned right in the subtitle. Nevermind reading the whole article, did you even open the link?
totallwork@reddit
I think it’s the opposite. They don’t know what makes Volkswagen desirable in the first place.
buttery_nurple@reddit
You should apply.
whalesalad@reddit
Bring back the VR6 R32
Maximilianne@reddit
It still exists, just buy a VW Talagon and strip out the engine
whalesalad@reddit
what in gods heavenly image is a talagon
BigFootEnergy@reddit
They would sell dozens of
oralabora@reddit
Happy happy happy!!
canadianbillsfan0@reddit
So do I buy 2025 golf r or wait till 26
Carfr33k@reddit
"resigns" sure. This job is like walking off the plank....it chews through guys.
josh_moworld@reddit
He got resigned for sure
OceanGate_Titan@reddit
Anytime this happens I wonder if he was caught having an affair
keithplacer@reddit
Or worse.
OceanGate_Titan@reddit
Murder?
Agree-With-Above@reddit
Reddit car dudes thinking they know more about company management than a CEO
keithplacer@reddit
They must all be Savagegeese fans too.
CompanyHead689@reddit
This idiot did plan on making all their vehicles electric
SystematicHydromatic@reddit
Uhoh, another scandal incoming?
What have these idiots done now?
pinbacktheband@reddit
I was a hard-core VW person growing up, but by the late 80s they were building garbage
Jon-Umber@reddit
Dude stumbled on their wikipedia page and immediately decided to gtfo
Lucky_Chainsaw@reddit
Hey look, a generic minivan cosplaying as the microbus.
dinkygoat@reddit
Remember the Routan.
IsTowel@reddit
This was definitely a capitulation in response to the formidable jaguar rebranding
gmangee@reddit
Haptic feedback
International-Day-00@reddit
“We should make a hybrid version of the ID buzz that’s within the average American price range.” ( exit door creaks slowly open )
offensivetoaster@reddit
I hope the new one brings back the manual R and gets rid of all that touch bullshit
bishopredline@reddit
Does anyone in the US actually purchase Volkswagen
Reasonable-Egg842@reddit
Come to Los Angeles - VW’s are everywhere.
leedle1234@reddit
Not since the 60s/70s really. The decided to go downmarket in the last decade or so to chase market share with bigger/cheaper American made cars and it kind of worked? Probably not nearly as well as they hoped and we might be seeing the ramifications of that now.
OkDirection8015@reddit
Bring back the beetle but not as an EV!
DatDan513@reddit
Smart
ObligationSlight8771@reddit
Probably getting a job in the what administration as director of clowns
elVanPuerno@reddit
Department of Diesel Engine Emissions
toad_salesman@reddit
Emissions maximization czar
scroopydog@reddit
Department of hamberders
DocPhilMcGraw@reddit
He most likely read the same rumors that have been floating around since early October that were saying that he was going to be given the boot. He can salvage whatever legacy he has left by leaving on his own accord versus waiting for another quarterly report that would seal his fate for sure.
The problem is that EVs are going to be a tough sell next year with the new administration coming in. The ID.Buzz is probably not going to be the saving grace it was hyped up to be and VW doesn't seem to have many alternatives for turning the ship around in NA.
tofulo@reddit
Dieselgate 2 inc
Heisenbugg@reddit
Dieselgate will be the most weak ass controversy compared to the other horrible shit that is about to roll in.
ThrowRA_6784@reddit
Maybe the next guy will make me a Beetle
redbullsgivemewings@reddit
The scandalous reason why will surface shortly
VanillaLifestyle@reddit
"Ran VW USA"
dimebag2011@reddit
Good riddance, this guy really fucked VW Argentina on his way out. I was incredibly surprised they rewarded him with the US spot, but the numbers must have been "good" considering the shitstorm that is VW at the moment.
Now the numbers are not good, the main branch from Germany NEEDS to start selling massive amounts of EVs (which they wont, because they are not that good and the market looking for EVs is not expanding as fast) so guy dipped after not getting anywhere with the dealears in the US (there were some interviews in spanish, in which he "politely complained" that the VW dealer network was uhm, "not budging with either the brand nor the customers"
_sideffect@reddit
"I'm rich now, later suckers!"
benzguy95@reddit
I’ve been looking for a job in automotive lately………
localtuned@reddit
I don't think this is normal.
Recoil42@reddit
Someone let Volkswagen know I'm available.