To think that I was a time when you could be trapped in a tube with people spewing poisonous fumes from their gobs - and there was no escape from breathing in that 2nd hand poison.
Seeing as OP is Australian imma guess that Qantas being Qantas have cheaper out and not updated their interior seating in a while (due to be phased out tbf)
people quickly forget that when, some idiot lights up a cig in the bathroom or in their seat, that although it is wildly wrong, you still need a safe place to extinguish that small little fire.
This video is quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSET4ZpH1U and to be honest, anyone who smokes on an aircraft deserves to be locked into the toilet with a halon extinguisher.
A&P here, there are several STCs available which eliminates the ashtrays altogether. A new weight and balance is required, of course, but it can be done.
IIRC, there’s only a regulatory requirement for ashtrays in the lavatories these days, nowhere else in the cabin. Probably depends on the certification basis of the aircraft, but you can always step up to later amendments.
For u.s. carriers, yes. There are still foreign flag carriers that allow smoking. Hence why we still have aircraft rolling off the line with ashtrays and "no smoking" lights. Either the STCs are applied during cabin fitting, or the manufacturer develops a submodel for u.s. carriers.
Meanwhile other countries get the smoking accoutrement
Curious about which airlines these days still allow smoking nowadays; I know the national carrier in my country fully banned smoking in the late 2000 and IIRC it was among the last major airline in the region that still allowed smoking inflight.
Harder to smell fire, plane gets smokey, people with weak lungs have to breathe in other's smoke. Oh fun fact most planes have ashtrays in bathrooms just in case
Katana_DV20@reddit
To think that I was a time when you could be trapped in a tube with people spewing poisonous fumes from their gobs - and there was no escape from breathing in that 2nd hand poison.
IAteAPlane@reddit
I’m at air cadets and our squadron has rows of them at the back of some rooms that have them
juusohd@reddit
Ashtrays can be found still on all modern ailiners.
FastPatience1595@reddit
Must be a mother Fokker ... (I'll see myself out, running for cover).
FastPatience1595@reddit
Humorless redditors strike again... go watch Meet the parents, with Ben Stiller and De Niro.
Over-Conflict6231@reddit
The Fokker 70 was manufactured in the 90s.
The first A320 was built in the 80s. The first 737 was built in 60s.
A Fokker 70 ain't that old. That one just has a slightly outdated interior.
snarfgobble@reddit
Extremely outdated.
GTdspDude@reddit
I was gonna counter that we routinely had these in the 90’s, but then I realized that’s 30 years ago and I’m going to go cry in the corner now
idubbkny@reddit
right there with you...
BergaChatting@reddit
Seeing as OP is Australian imma guess that Qantas being Qantas have cheaper out and not updated their interior seating in a while (due to be phased out tbf)
Specialist_Reality96@reddit
More likely it an Alliance or similar charter operator that does mine site charters.
BergaChatting@reddit
Shit yeah, I confused f100 which is what Qantas have
Specialist_Reality96@reddit
I think the F-100's are run by Alliance for QANTAS link just actually painted in QANTAS colours. So not a massive step between the two.
Ok-Dust-@reddit
Looks like 1974 is the oldest one still flying. 50 years old still doing 2-3 legs a day pretty consistently isn’t half bad.
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-737-200-c-gnlk-nolinor-aviation/e96dgg
zootayman@reddit
An interesting question would be what country/airline waS THE FIRST TO NOT ALLOW SMOKING ON THE PLANES.
i RECALL THAT IN THE 60S THEY EVEN GAVE PASSENGERS COMPLEMENTARY CIGRARRETS ON TH EFLIGHTS
I recall that in the 60s they even gave passengers complementary cigarettes (small pack) on flights (ie- American Airlines)
Corbettcommander@reddit
Alliance airlines?
flyboy1964@reddit
From the days of the beefy padding, wide and comfortable airline seats. Today it's all about how many sardines the airlines can fit inside the can.
unityofsaints@reddit
Yeah it still has seet recline, haven't seen that in years /s
Poopafly@reddit
Light up a cigar
joesnopes@reddit
Doesn't show anything about age. Shows how global Fokker's customers were.
auxilary@reddit
people quickly forget that when, some idiot lights up a cig in the bathroom or in their seat, that although it is wildly wrong, you still need a safe place to extinguish that small little fire.
Every-Progress-1117@reddit
You mean, not in the bin stuffed full of paper?
This video is quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSET4ZpH1U and to be honest, anyone who smokes on an aircraft deserves to be locked into the toilet with a halon extinguisher.
bake_gatari@reddit
Ayyyy!!! Where my Fokker bros at??
ScienceYAY@reddit
Mother Fokker
itchygentleman@reddit
A modern FAA legal airplane cannot legally take off without an ashtray 👍
MattheiusFrink@reddit
acktchually....
A&P here, there are several STCs available which eliminates the ashtrays altogether. A new weight and balance is required, of course, but it can be done.
turndownforjim@reddit
IIRC, there’s only a regulatory requirement for ashtrays in the lavatories these days, nowhere else in the cabin. Probably depends on the certification basis of the aircraft, but you can always step up to later amendments.
MattheiusFrink@reddit
For u.s. carriers, yes. There are still foreign flag carriers that allow smoking. Hence why we still have aircraft rolling off the line with ashtrays and "no smoking" lights. Either the STCs are applied during cabin fitting, or the manufacturer develops a submodel for u.s. carriers.
Meanwhile other countries get the smoking accoutrement
mikepapafoxtrot@reddit
Curious about which airlines these days still allow smoking nowadays; I know the national carrier in my country fully banned smoking in the late 2000 and IIRC it was among the last major airline in the region that still allowed smoking inflight.
MattheiusFrink@reddit
Mostly the ones from countries thnotdo not abide by world customs. Cubana, iranair, and air Alegria, for example
DionFW@reddit
Yup. Illegal to smoke on the plane, but in case that one asshole does......
Haunting-Item1530@reddit
Ashtray I assume? Fokker 70 was manufactured in the 90s btw
Simple-Order8549@reddit (OP)
Yes. It’s still old because it’s from a time when smoking was allowed during a flight.
Haunting-Item1530@reddit
True, smoking on planes was outlawed in 2000 in the US and '96 in the Netherlands where the fokker 70 was manyfactured
Simple-Order8549@reddit (OP)
Why did they ban smoking on flights anyway? Fire hazard?
CaptainMundane893@reddit
I don't want to shock you or anything, but cigarette smoke is a health hazard.
Over-Conflict6231@reddit
The same reason they banned smoking in restaurants.
poemdirection@reddit
Back then the "non-smoking" section was really just the "slightly less smelly section"
Haunting-Item1530@reddit
Harder to smell fire, plane gets smokey, people with weak lungs have to breathe in other's smoke. Oh fun fact most planes have ashtrays in bathrooms just in case
zevonyumaxray@reddit
It's actually a juicebox holder.
Sackheimbeutlin87@reddit
"Wait, your name is Gay Fokker?"
RedditModsSuckNuts88@reddit
Meet the Fokker
yeahgoestheusername@reddit
MotherFokker!
O4EWO@reddit
And you're riding in it????
Liamnacuac@reddit
Hey, they still have gumwads in wrapper boxes!
Gimme-shelter777@reddit
Our A330’s still have ashtrays in the back of the seats in the cockpit, not that they get used
farox@reddit
Not with that attitude
Historical_Gur_3054@reddit
USAF KC-135's are so old they have ashtrays in the cockpit
Hennabott96@reddit
This is nostalgia lmao
LyleLanley99@reddit
NO RECLINING
Simple-Order8549@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I was in the row in front of the exit row.