How much to charge for delivery? 200 mile round trip.

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Accurate_Prompt_8800@reddit

Return trip. HMRC standard is 45p a mile, so I’m assuming they bumped it up to 50p a mile so you’re getting more really.

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Rocky-bar@reddit

45p a mile? it must be way behind inflation by now.

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WhiteDiamondK@reddit

To be fair, it’s not. I do a lot of fuel claims for work. I drive midlands to Surrey a lot, for which I get a smidge over £100 round trip. I use, maybe, £40-£45 of fuel.

Admittedly, I have quite an economical car, but I make a nice wad on top of my salary each month.

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rectal_warrior@reddit

You also have to take into account maintenance and depreciation when calculating vehicle expenses. There's a good reason it's higher than the fuel cost alone.

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WhiteDiamondK@reddit

I’m well aware of that, but double the fuel costs seems more than generous.

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rectal_warrior@reddit

It's not generous, cars lose vale proportional to their milage and wear and tear. The cost of servicing and maintenance is significant if you look after your vehicle properly.

If you drive a shit box then it is generous, but not many people do.

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Accurate_Prompt_8800@reddit

Tbh I checked HMRC website for the 2024 rates. They are getting 50p per mile which is 11% more than suggested! Inflation can’t account for that much surely haha.

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stoatwblr@reddit

fuel, tyres, wear & tear (maintenance), insurance, fjnance

there's vastly more to milage allowances than "petrol"

and no, the hmrc allowances hasn't tracked inflation or it'd be over £1mile from the 1995 allowances

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stoatwblr@reddit

plus time at an appropriate hourly rate plus extra insurance for commercial use

if the vehicle usage is paid then it's business purposes, which very few people have bothered with as insurance

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Delts28@reddit

It's not business purposes, being paid petrol money doesn't turn you into a business. It's a one off private sale, bit a commercial enterprise.

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hillbagger@reddit

If I'm driving for work I'm getting paid by the hour, on top of the 45p per mile.

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gozzle_101@reddit (OP)

So £100 for the 100 there and 100 back?

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ames_lwr@reddit

Plus whatever admin fee you might have to pay to amend your car insurance to cover that trip

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bluejackmovedagain@reddit

I'd add at least £10 an hour for your travel time in both directions too.

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Accurate_Prompt_8800@reddit

I would say so, yeah. You can always ask for a little more if you want but £100 is fair I think.

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Robojobo27@reddit

Why do they want you to deliver it? Surely it’d be more convenient for you and cheaper for them to just pay a courier?

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gozzle_101@reddit (OP)

I guess convenience for them, that’s a good shout though I’ll pass it on. I don’t really want to drive 100 miles fully loaded

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

Why are they buying it from someone 100 miles away? I can get screed from the local Screwfix.

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gozzle_101@reddit (OP)

I’ve knocked some off to get rid of it. To someone doing a job soon it’s a steal. It’s sat around for 6 months as my plans for it changed

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stoatwblr@reddit

if they won't collect it, it's obviously not 'a steal'

there's a reason stuff like this is usually "collection only"

Does your insurance cover full commercial use? (which is what its classified as if you're charging to deliver)

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It's not commercial use if you're doing a one off private sale. Commercial use is specifically using it for a source of employment, not about being paid petrol money doing the odd trip. By your criteria anyone taking petrol money for giving a friend/family member a lift would suddenly be a commercial vehicle.

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stoatwblr@reddit

argue that with your insurers or the police and see how far it gets yiu

and yes, taking "petrol money" DOES put people at risk of being declared business purposes. I'm aware of a cow-orker who got his insurance cancelled over this when he was in a minor ding

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Delts28@reddit

It only puts you at risk if it's related to a business activity. One off sales aren't a business activity unless linked to a business.

I've read my insurance policy on this because both my wife and I use the car occasionally for what the layman would think is business. We don't actually need the insurance according to the insurers but our employers do require it.

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

I’m just worried about you being ripped off or having your time wasted.

Screwfix sells a 20kg bag for £17. I can’t see any price which includes your time and petrol unless they’re paying you with dodgy money or else winding you up.

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jimicus@reddit

375kg, though. That ain't gonna be cheap.

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DeepSpaceNineInches@reddit

Can you not send it on a pallet? Been a while since I sent one, but 10 years ago it cost me £140 to send an 800kg euro pallet of stuff an hour or so towards London.

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Calo_Callas@reddit

£450ish through TNT at the likely better than average corporate rates I get at work depending on the dimensions, I get why they probably don't want to use a courier.

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stoatwblr@reddit

TNT has aiways been one of the most expensive optionx out there. I've seen quotes from them come in at twice anyone else

it's always made me wonder how they stay in business

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jimicus@reddit

Palletways comes in a lot cheaper. Might be a better bet.

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Calo_Callas@reddit

Fair enough, this is a lot larger than most of the stuff I deal with.

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stoatwblr@reddit

Various couriers do heavy loads and they'll be cheaper than your costs - meaning that if you charge less than them, you're rather silly

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Hatertraito@reddit

That's like 4 adult men

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JoeDaStudd@reddit

What's the actual drive time?\ 100 miles on the motorway could be under 1h30, 100 miles on b roads could be 3h+.

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JohnLennonsNotDead@reddit

Have you checked if your car can actually carry that amount which will likely be 100% over the rear axle?

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gozzle_101@reddit (OP)

According to the manual I can carry 430kg total load plus driver + fuel. I figure 3 bags on each seat (75kg, average weighted human) and 3 in the boot it should spread as evenly as possible. Still not mad keen for it though!

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JohnLennonsNotDead@reddit

Good stuff mate, you’ve got it boxed. I would say £200 is very reasonable from your side. I paid £80 to return 58kg of bathroom furniture via a pallet that I had to arrange myself via a specialist company as Royal Mail don’t touch that weight or bulkyness etc. I’d imagine for them to arrange a courier would be getting on double that amount if it’s by weight alone.

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geeered@reddit

What is your time worth to you and what's it going to cost you in fuel?

Of course if it means a sale vs no sale, that's a factor - but make sure you get payment upfront!

You could always look at shiply and see if you can get a cheaper quote. I've got a van myself, but have often used them to say collect a cheap or push bike rather than make the trip myself and is often no more expensive before my time is considered.

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exiledtomainstreet@reddit

Hard to say. Depends how difficult it is/desperate you are to sell. You could tear the arse out of it or do it for nothing.

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gozzle_101@reddit (OP)

Tbh, I need it gone. In a couple of months it will be worthless as it’s sat around for a while now. But I’m really begrudging 4 hours in the car on a weekend for free!

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exiledtomainstreet@reddit

Yeah, not ideal. Find a number that makes it seem worth it, multiply it by 1.2 then start the bidding there.

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quoole@reddit

Answering from the perspective of a self employed person. You can charge up to £0.45/mi as a expense (45p is meant to cover not just fuel, but wear and tear on the car too) so I would charge that. Then I would charge an hourly rate. So it's it's two hours maybe it's £40 for your time and about £90 (200 miles, yes you absolutely include the return journey in this instance) for travel expenses. A total of £130.

Why on Earth, unless it's a particularly delicate or unusual item, they wouldn't want it delivered by a traditional delivery service I don't know.

If you hired a courier to do it in your place, they would likely charge over £200 for a journey of that length.

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