3 Danish navy ships are converging on the Chinese vessel suspect of cutting communication cables right now
Posted by gallipoli307@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 487 comments
sexaddictedcow@reddit
Why are the Chinese doing this?
Thoraxe474@reddit
Because they're dicks and no one ever punishes them for being dicks
roboconcept@reddit
what is this toddler's view of geopolitics and why is it on the prepper intel subreddit
Shadowstep_kick@reddit
Theres nothing incorrect about his statement. China is a serial geopolitical provocateur. Literally incapable of not stealing intellectual property, tresspassing in other countries air space and fishing rights, all the while claiming everyone is taking advantage of them. Trash culture since the revolution. Killed all your smart people and now a country run by the classless. Just like Russia.
NoHypocrisyDoubleStd@reddit
All those things you accused China of doing, the USA has done worst, you don’t just hear/care about it
Shadowstep_kick@reddit
America has its own problems. Don't accuse them of doing the subhuman shameless shit they've never done. America isn't terrorizing a smaller nation, Taiwain would gladly join America and benefit from it economically while maintaining their owm cultural identity. China only takes and kills.
Wabbitone@reddit
Just sink it already.
ToroMeBorro@reddit
Just checking, how many foreign military bases do they have?
adrenacrome@reddit
More than friends you have in real life, go back to /r/sino
TheMagicalSquid@reddit
Did you lose some argument on there? People who start pulling out random subreddits as some “gotcha!” are usually types that got kicked out or scrutinized enough to hold a grudge
tommytwolegs@reddit
Argument on /r/sino that's a pretty good joke
Ok_Investigator_4737@reddit
Look at that person's comment history...it's rough
GandalfTheSexay@reddit
That place is a cesspool. I got banned for mildly countering their all hail China mentality
Girafferage@reddit
frodofullbags@reddit
4
ToroMeBorro@reddit
So not 750? Got it 👍👍
Dabat1@reddit
All the more reason the Chinese were really dumb for trying what they did.
ToroMeBorro@reddit
I guess we're about to find out
Something tells me North America won't be so lucky to avoid catastrophe for a 3rd consecutive World War...
Dabat1@reddit
If so, or if not, either way history will forever record that your beloved China started it. :D
ToroMeBorro@reddit
Oh yes, this all started with the internet cables
Dabat1@reddit
Yes it quite literally has.
ToroMeBorro@reddit
If we're tallying up global escalations, the West is responsible for the vast majority that have lead us to this point (ie. Ukraine & Israel). You've got your head in the sand if you believe what you're saying
TheJesterScript@reddit
Next, you are going to tell me that Czechoslovakia and Poland deserved what they got in 1939.
Dabat1@reddit
Ah, yes, the terrible western escalations of... checks notes telling them not to oppress their own people and not allowing China to change international law across the entire world just because they want to.
Anything else, sweetheart? :D
ToroMeBorro@reddit
You sure you wanna start with international law? Just today, the UN ruled that Israel's committing genocide.
I'm not arguing China's any kind of saintly state, but we sure as shit ain't the good guys either
Dabat1@reddit
Interesting. That has nothing to do with the matter at hand. In fact NONE of what you have brought up has anything to do with China attacking others nation unprovoked.
Do you have anything that actually backs you up? I mean, we both know that you don't. Because nothing excuses direct attacks on other nations... But it's lots of fun to watch you twist in the wind.
ToroMeBorro@reddit
Hyuck hyuck, enjoy WW3, I know I won't ✌️
Dabat1@reddit
I wont enjoy it at all. But history will remember that your guys started it. ;)
Brave-Background9679@reddit
Probably not but china will be a massive pile of glass
According_View2502@reddit
Illegal foreign police stations? Over one hundred.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/chinas-overseas-police-stations-an-imminent-security-threat/#:~:text=Between%202016%20and%202022%2C%20four,Europe%2C%20Africa%2C%20and%20Asia.
No_Cell8707@reddit
jesus you getting that many downvotes shows the state of bootlicking in this subreddit lmao
RudeDudeInABadMood@reddit
I assume you're referring to the USA-- that's to try and keep the Chinese from being such dicks
DotFinal2094@reddit
Lmfao I can't tell if your joking or seriously believe this
RudeDudeInABadMood@reddit
Of course I believe it, it's true. What, you don't think we have bases in Asia and Australia to keep an eye on China?
Jetpack_Attack@reddit
Definitely not to push their own interests.
Never.
RudeDudeInABadMood@reddit
One of those many interests is to keep the Chinese from being dicks.
I mean, the US MIC has plenty of reptiles employed as well. The CIA in particular can be real assholes.
Jetpack_Attack@reddit
Those cowboys and their snow storm back in the 80s.
macbeefer@reddit
Why not both?
Jetpack_Attack@reddit
🥳 🌮 🎊
turkey_sandwiches@reddit
And the Russians.
RudeDudeInABadMood@reddit
Quite so
Jetpack_Attack@reddit
US are just dicks of a different colour.
An added bit of blue and white to the red.
Rev-Dr-Slimeass@reddit
If your argument is that China is justifiably antagonising other countries in line with modern competitive geopolitics, then sure. I don't think this is a particularly big deal, at least in the sense that China is acting normally.
If your argument is that because China doesn't maintain a global presence in the same way the west does so they can act in a hostile way with impunity, then your argument is dog shit.
turkey_sandwiches@reddit
Super curious. What the flying fuck does that have to do with any of this?
crash______says@reddit
Not enough to do this shit.
HelloImTheAntiChrist@reddit
Worldwide ?
ClassOf1685@reddit
My guess is that it is an illegal Chinese fishing vessel that was using a drag net on the sea bottom and cut the cable.
ConclusionOk912@reddit
all the way across the world?
King0Horse@reddit
I'm not saying I agree with the person you're asking, but...
Chinese fishing vessels have shown a tendency to range far and wide, because absolutely decimating the sealife close to a country you don't like is a net benefit to China.
ConclusionOk912@reddit
how is that feasible? do you know the gas costs to do that? that wouldnt be economically possible unless china knew about it in some way or another so it literally cant be some random chinese person it would have to be china or a chinese company doing something illegal with china knowing about
elastic-craptastic@reddit
https://youtu.be/pw2lO4sxZn8?si=0DW6-oRh44nVduMH
Gumbi_Digital@reddit
Could this be an actual accident where they were illegally fishing and dragging the sea floor?
Seems China doesn’t respect fishing rights…would be my first guess instead of something nefarious which would easily be caught (like now).
CrimsonTightwad@reddit
Because China has conquered Russia.
UselessPsychology432@reddit
These are practice for China vs USA/Europe. There will be "civilian" Chinese ships doing things like this all over in the event of war
errorryy@reddit
Taiwan recently cut off 7 nanometer chips to Hwawei and othee mainland manufacturers. Taiwan is, and always has been China, per US official policy. Despite propaganda.
ataboo@reddit
If it's China, I'd say it's a message that they're mad about the latest tariffs and could get closer to BRICS' agenda if they wanted to.
Messing with the connection between Baltic and ex-soviet states fits into Putin's agenda pretty directly. If it was Russia, that risks a NATO/EU response -- probably bumping military spending and Ukraine aid or spending more frozen assets. Another tick on the nuclear clock.
China, on the other hand, has a lot more financial consequence baggage, so there's probably a better chance of cooling off through the larger tariff negotiation going on. If we hear a lot of accusation and denunciation, expect more tariffs. If it stays hazy or maybe "it was some non-state 3rd party" then it's probably cooling off. Tariffs just spilled over from electric cars and drone batteries, to agricultural goods like pork, etc. so there's lots of economic and political pain if they keep escalating.
darthdelicious@reddit
Don't read Never by Ken Follett. You won't sleep well given current circumstancess. A little too believable.
pooinmypants1@reddit
🔥🔥🔥
Jetpack_Attack@reddit
All they have to say is "Whoops, unintentional mistake."
Pledge to fix it it. Draw it out and wait until everyone forgets. Then not fix it.
LeftToaster@reddit
Oh come on! It was clearly an accident. They dragged their anchor. Twice. It was just a coincidence that each time they caught a critical communications cable.
TwistingEarth@reddit
Because they have allied with Russia?
AdCharacter9512@reddit
That looks to be how it's gonna shake out.
Common-Frosting-9434@reddit
Yep, didn't China initially start to mobilize when Russia attacked Ukraine, but then backed down when it became apparent that Ukraine wouldn't fold as easily as Putin expected?
ghosttrainhobo@reddit
My guess: money.
tangerineSoapbox@reddit
The Chinese are doing this because the OP said "Chinese" without offering proof.
New_pollution1086@reddit
Help ruzzia
Ok_Chard2094@reddit
Is this Chinese ship the responsible party?
Or is it being used for cover?
Cutting one cable could be an accident, cutting 2 with the same ship is so obvious that you would expect to be stopped. Not a career enhancing move.
If I was the Russian navy, and wanted to cut some cables, I would use a submarine trailing or hiding under a big ship like this.
Cut the cables, sneak back to base and leave the clueless civilians on the surface holding the bag.
pizzaschmizza39@reddit
I really hope the West actually does something to respond to this. It's an act of war in my eyes. They have the ability to figure out who was behind it or just logically connect the dots and act accordingly which no one would blame them for.
D3ltaa88@reddit
Needs to be boarded and crew detained
LeftToaster@reddit
It has been intercepted and boarded by Danish Navy. Rihards Kols, a Latvian member of the European Parliament has tweeted that the captain is Russian and included an AIS track of the ship's course when it was over the communications cables:
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1858853514291691729/photo/1
Buffberg@reddit
It's a Russian captain and possibly crew on a Chinese ship. It could be Russia trying to pin the blame on China to create tension with the West.
ldwtlotpa@reddit
Am I tripping or did I see something recently about “watch for network cables being cut coming up in a few months” or something along those lines?
Deadpool2715@reddit
There was a post asking why it isn't done more
Totally_man@reddit
I know it's not what you're referring to, but I posted a prediction on this about 12 days ago
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, but it was removed by Reddit filters.
SchrodingersUniverse@reddit
Elon Musk freakin scares me dude. He is a byproduct of literal South African slave trade. He has skills beyond Tesla on how to exploit people.
RegionNovel8512@reddit
Dude, get a grip.
kingofthesofas@reddit
Yeah that's not how it works. Those cables are Internet backbone cables. Starlink is a last mile provider and it doesn't have nearly the capacity or capability to replace those cables. Like not even close. Also lots of cables are direct connections between data centers in the cloud etc.
WirelessWavetable@reddit
Newer submarine cables are 220-250Tbps. Older cables are even worse. Elon has said that Starlink V2 Mini is 165 Tbps and the previous satellites were 88 Tbps. They can get pretty close to being a substitute for the fiber cable. Especially if they can dedicate a couple satellites foto cover a specific region.
kingofthesofas@reddit
That's not quite how it works. Starlink is a mesh of rapidly moving low earth orbit satellites. You cannot dedicate one of them to anything because you need a ton of them working together also there are only certain parts of the world that can transmit so the satellites in those orbits do most of the heavy lifting for transmission. The actual usable capacity of the network is about 10% of the combined speed of all the satellites for this reason because they use most of their capacity just passing around data in the mesh between satellites. Total starlink capacity right now is about 90,000 Gbps so 10% of that. Just one fiber cable like MAREA is 200,000 Gbps and there are over 500 of them crossing the Atlantic.
On top of that individual connections are limited to really slow speeds because it is optimized for end users not data centers. You cannot run a data center with 220 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up for obvious reasons and trying to trunk them all together would be a disaster and probably just result in a ton of interference. Also you cannot depend on a satellite for the latency and levels of uptime required for a data center or backbone internet at least with current tech. If you wanted to use it for that you would likely need a purpose built satellite constellation and hardware but honestly it would just be easier and cheaper to repair or lay down new ocean fiber cables.
johnnyheavens@reddit
Data centers in the cloud huh?
kingofthesofas@reddit
The cloud is just data centers that lease hardware time.
johnnyheavens@reddit
The cloud is just the internet. It’s a marketing term to make CEOs feel good about data being outside their control.
kingofthesofas@reddit
Those are two different things. The cloud is leased time in other peoples data centers for storage and compute vs self hosting. The internet is a collection of websites and applications users access. Often the internet is hosted in "the cloud" but sometimes it is on site.
wolacouska@reddit
This reply made me realize I had seen that post, because this is what people were saying then too lol
bunchedupwalrus@reddit
Wouldn’t that just massively increase the value of internet via scarcity
kingofthesofas@reddit
No it would just fuck everything up. There would be no internet as we know it as services and sites would just break and corp networks would be in shambles. Eventually they would adjust to only having servers on the continent they are on with limited data going between the continents but for weeks or months everything would just be haywire and chaotic.
_fck@reddit
I think this is more likely than you're giving credence to. Companies had to scramble during COVID lockdowns. It was an unprecedented time, yet they eventually figured it out and now most of them are doing even better than they were before. The current system of things will need to be broken down before they can rebuild/"fix" it how they want. That doesn't happen peacefully and gracefully, without a period of great confusion/panic/problems.
kingofthesofas@reddit
I mean yes it could for sure happen but there is no starlink conspiracy around it. Starlink would be just as screwed as everyone else. Also if they want to censor the Internet it's actually not that hard to do technically, legally is the issue as well as voters would be very unhappy with it.
wwaxwork@reddit
You're assuming Elon knows that.
kingofthesofas@reddit
It doesn't matter if he does or not this whole plan will not work sooooo
kamalavoter@reddit
But Elon bad. Let them have this conspiracy theorist and then they call other people conspiracy theorists
Pktur3@reddit
Elon is not good by a long shot, but this is also an ill-informed scenario.
kamalavoter@reddit
Just saying it is funny listening to all their conspiracy theories while they swear on their life that Republicans are the conspiracy theorists. It's hilarious
unclebillylovesATL@reddit
I watched hundreds line up for the return of JFK. It is pervasive
kingofthesofas@reddit
I think that republicans engage in all sorts of Looney conspiracy theories but also I push back on any I see from the left too.
Pktur3@reddit
Social media certainly is an echo chamber.
YouAreMegaRegarded@reddit
I feel like “censoring the internet” is a pretty weak motive since the internet is already heavily surveilled and governments often successfully censor the internet.
I just simply think it is the equivalent of the iron curtain in the information age.
Dragonfly-Adventurer@reddit
What's the American analog to the Great Firewall of China? Mount Firewall? We're getting a Mount Firewall.
YouAreMegaRegarded@reddit
lol, if America wanted our own great firewall, we’d probably call the act creating the “Protect Global Communications Act” to isolate ourselves from the nonwestern nations.
Better-Ad-9479@reddit
More likely it would be called XiIPPOOBEAR for all of the stolen intellectual property paid for by XiBear
TechnicalParrot@reddit
If they wanted to censor the internet they can just get regular ISPs to do it, which they already do anyway, there's no need for some weird Starlink conspiracy for your misunderstanding of how the internet works. I'm not surprised the post was removed
kingofthesofas@reddit
Yes this 100% I also hate Elon musk but it's just not how the Internet works. If the Internet cables were cut it would be chaos for everyone including starlink. I bet all their backend is in AWS just like everyone else.
ldwtlotpa@reddit
No I mean a legitimate “watch for someone cutting major data cables in the water” like exactly predicting this.
Str0ngTr33@reddit
seen that on a couple of analyst tubes
CeruleanFlytrap@reddit
I remember seeing this too!! Have no idea where I saw it now, but yes, there was some kind of threat or intel related to exactly this.
ldwtlotpa@reddit
Maybe like the day after the election? I can’t find it anywhere.
CeruleanFlytrap@reddit
I want to say it was about a week ago and it was a warning from Russia.
CeruleanFlytrap@reddit
Like they alleged that the U.S. and UK would be the ones cutting cables.
Push-Hardly@reddit
You da bomb
MeatyMexican@reddit
this one
Stroikah1@reddit
90% chance it was covered in a Simpsons episode 10years ago or so....
Ok-Thing-2222@reddit
Yes, I think I saw it yesterday somewhere.
Taste_the__Rainbow@reddit
Don’t se see posts like this every few months since 2018?
birgor@reddit
You are right. Some intelligence guy warned about Russia had specific plans about cutting cables just a couple of days before it happened.
Can't find where I read it now though.
abovedafray@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/s/kgfBAgacZy
DarthPineapple5@reddit
A Putin ally was reported talking about cable sabotage a few weeks ago. Of course he was accusing the US and British of planning it, they are nothing if not consistent when it comes to projection
Guilty_Zucchini_1569@reddit
Yeah Putin was talking about it the other week
LoneStarDev@reddit
https://youtu.be/2ziLp66XPAw?si=zymtLOxUmw4FyR3p
Confident-Pace4314@reddit
Not really hard to predict when it already has happened
Odd-Guess1213@reddit
This is not new. It happened in the Red Sea in March, for example. It happened last year too.
extrastupidone@reddit
Thats the obvious first thing to do.
buttscratcher3k@reddit
Tbh the russians have been regularly monitoring and mapping undersea cables for decades, and people have been saying they would be severed for equally as long it's not a new or novel technique (also been done before with no repercussions). It's constantly talked about in multiple circles and likely will continue to be.
capitan_dipshit@reddit
All lines of communication (data, roads, pipelines) into ruzzia should be cut.
AbbaFuckingZabba@reddit
Yes it's been known since Nord Stream that this was something the Russians might do as a means of non-direct escalation. And now Ukraine has permission to launch ATACMS into a section of Russia. I can imagine if more cables are cut ATACMS will be allowed to strike more regions.
Eriiiii@reddit
It was a report by russians saying the us was planning to do it if i recall correctly
senecant@reddit
Caspian Report published a video about cutting cables just a couple of weeks ago. https://youtu.be/gxsaWhXG1Gg?si=pCOFM_8iHwmlnc2Y
scubasteve02@reddit
I remember seeing this as well.
lightweight12@reddit
Yesterday everyone said it was the Russians...
Big-Professional-187@reddit
No it's China, Russia is their puppet state now. Putin disappeared something like 2012-2013 as have medev and a whole bunch of others. They're using body doubles and AI to run bullshit and use food as a weapon to coup African nations. It's scarier than just "Russia".
SevenBansDeep@reddit
Source: made it the fuck up
Big-Professional-187@reddit
Ukrainian intelligence has said this publicly. It's their theory not mine.
mamamackmusic@reddit
And why would Ukrainian intelligence be reliable when talking about Russia...Ukraine and the US are clearly biased sources of information, who should be met with the most skepticism when talking about their direct geopolitical adversaries. I wouldn't trust Russian statements about Ukraine or the US, either.
Big-Professional-187@reddit
They're the ones in the shit not the United States or the media.
Possible_End_5272@reddit
Don't do drugs, or watch Alex Jones, kids...
Big-Professional-187@reddit
No I'm just going off what Ukrainian intelligence is offering as their theory for the motivation behind the kinetic warfare being waged.
lightweight12@reddit
Ok?
therapistofcats@reddit
Nah bro, this sub is all about jumping to conclusions and posting random shit so one day you'll be right. Get your logic out of here.
Side note. Anyone remember last March when Silicon Valley Bank went under and 80% of this sub said we'd have a run on the banks and economic disaster?
thefedfox64@reddit
Yea, and when we have that run, you'll be sorry. And I'll be right, and out of a job, and poor and homeless. But I'll be fucking right. And that's all that matter. /s
LeftToaster@reddit
Russia is just a Chinese puppet.
whatThePleb@reddit
It's the same picture.
Past-Piglet-3342@reddit
Facts? In a scare-mongering sub? Come now.
turtleduck@reddit
this article says the ship was in Russia on November 10 https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2024-11-19-soevaernet-foelger-kinesisk-skib-der-var-taet-paa-beskadigede-kabler
ridebird@reddit
Betting on it being Russia is not exactly high odds.
But theres a lot of shitty Chinese spy ships crawling around the nordics as well, just a lot more common with Russian ones.
joeg26reddit@reddit
Rushin? Well. Someone’s in a hurry now
01010110_@reddit
Here's a live map
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:213234/zoom:10
gatsby_101@reddit
That’s really neat. Looks like they are indeed intercepting them at the moment.
AstroSeed@reddit
It's like the video game harpoon!
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
I used to fire real harpoons. 🤓
AstroSeed@reddit
You mean the actual anti ship missile??
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
Yes sir The USN paid me to play video games. With real ships and weapons.
donairdaddydick@reddit
Username checks out.
MechanicalAxe@reddit
Damn, best me to it but I never saw this till I scrolled down.
sigh guess I'll delete.
MechanicalAxe@reddit
Username checks out.
Sororita@reddit
I had that when I was an Electronic Warfare Tech. as a contractor. Didn't fire any real shit, but I did operate and maintain radars used for playing OpFor for Marine pilot training exercises. It was like getting paid to play the most realistic video game ever produced.
Quiet-Tackle-5993@reddit
Maintains radar systems was like playing a video game?
Sororita@reddit
You know how some games will shoot for hyper-realism? The operating part of "operate and maintain" is the really fun part, with the preventative and corrective maintenance being part of the simulation part of the game
JadedBoyfriend@reddit
Very good. Thank you for your service, Sir.
Girafferage@reddit
Ender? Is that you?
AstroSeed@reddit
Kewl hehe
SecretSquirrelSauce@reddit
I used to help "sink" you guys!
AlwaysHigh27@reddit
Looks like it's still stopped. They are still at anchor 12 hours after your comment.
gatsby_101@reddit
I happened to look several hours ago and saw two DNK ships onsite, then the original interceptor moved away and the second anchored about 1km away overnight. In the past few hours it looks like they’ve switched positions again with DNK P525 back on site today.
The latest update I read said it was a Chinese ship but piloted by a Russian captain, although the article admitted that the latter has not been independently verified yet.
I can’t even put my car into drive without first disengaging the parking break, you would think that the bridge would be aware that they were dragging the anchor across the ocean floor…twice.
lifeenthusiastic@reddit
Down to 2 kts, I'd say they have been stopped. That certainly feels unprecedented
LeftToaster@reddit
The Danish patrol vessel P525 and the Yi Peng 3 have been in the same place for several hours. Clearly they are investigating.
improbablydrunknlw@reddit
Still there six hours later.
sim-pit@reddit
Another 6 hours.
MyWifeButBoratVoice@reddit
Another 9 hours after your comment. They're still there.
DeltaNu1142@reddit
Post says 3 vessels intercepting as of 47 minutes ago. I see one... but it's entirely possible that I'm missing something.
Insanelycalm@reddit
They could use something to mask their signals too since they’re warships.
KoreyYrvaI@reddit
Most Naval vessels can go 'off AIS' if they want. They can also go to a version of AIS with more restricted access.
Grundens@reddit
everyone's capable of switching off their AIS...
KoreyYrvaI@reddit
This is also true.
sim-pit@reddit
Vessel is stopped, no need for more than a single ship.
HereticBanana@reddit
It's possible not all Dutch Navy vessels report their location.
thatsnotamachinegun@reddit
hikingmike@reddit
Hahahaha well done
butt_huffer42069@reddit
Oh my God I love you
exteriorcrocodileal@reddit
Did you generate a meme just to reply to this guy’s typo 🤣
livingstar@reddit
Commenting on 3 Danish navy ships are converging on the Chinese vessel suspect of cutting communication cables right now... Misspelling Danish?
HereticBanana@reddit
Nah, just transposed the two countries. Thanks for the heads up.
LeftToaster@reddit
The Danish Navy patrol vessel P525 (Rota), a Diana Class patrol ships is stopped and co-located with the Yi Peng 3. The HDMS Soloven, a Danish Navy diver support ship is about 10 miles SE and heading NW. The next closest military ship visible on AIS is the HDMS Hvidbjoernen, a Thetis Class patrol frigate that is about 75 nm SE of the site and heading the same direction.
DilbertPicklesIII@reddit
They are almost there
TummyPuppy@reddit
How do they know where the cables were cut?
DilbertPicklesIII@reddit
They are on the boat that did it.
Any-Kaleidoscope7681@reddit
Optical Time/Distance Reflectometry AKA OTDR
-rwsr-xr-x@reddit
It looks like that got too popular too fast, now many of the critical tiles are blacked out/blanked out and the map only loads the surrounding areas.
Mathfanforpresident@reddit
They're docked next to each other now
Strange_Lady_Jane@reddit
Its so WILD to me we can watch this happen.
Hammer0173@reddit
This also shows the Danish military vessel.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9224984
Bitter-Culture-3103@reddit
I've never seen so many ships in my life 😳
lifeenthusiastic@reddit
Looks like it is slowing down?
UnRealistic_Load@reddit
Any updates on what has transpired since?
MysticPing@reddit
For context two undersea cables, one between Sweden and Latvia and one between Finland and Germany were cut shortly after this ship passed over each cable, the ship departed from Russia.
Personally I doubt this is China, more likely Russians using a Chinese flagged ship.
While China does give Russia limited support, China also needs trade with the west.
ro-dtox@reddit
Elon could not be happier
First_Bed1662@reddit
Why don't they need practice?
work4work4work4work4@reddit
And it's going to be problematic for them if they end up blocked from ports because Russians are using their ships for ops.
durge69@reddit
Do they have barcodes on the side? So when they comeback they can Scandinavian?
legleg339@reddit
havent seen a ping from HDMS HVIDBJOERNEN for a couple hours. they seem to have gone dark for some reason. stopped pinging when they got within a couple miles of the chinese ship
LeftToaster@reddit
It turned off it's AIS transponder when it got within 13nm of the site. It is back on AIS now, 150km north. But the patrol ship HDMS Rota (P525) is back on site. The diving support vessel HDMS Soeloeven is also now back in port.
gallipoli307@reddit (OP)
Did it sink?
legleg339@reddit
lol i highly doubt it, more like it turned off its AIS system or switched to a miltary only one for some reason to avoid prying eyes while it was doing whatever it was doing
hikingmike@reddit
Is it possible for an actor to place a device of some kind on the cable/cables that will cut them, and which can be activated at the time of the actor’s choosing through a satellite signal or something? Or just on a basic timer. Seems possible. Not easy. But possible.
AutomateDeez69@reddit
These cables are absolutely massive and very deep in the ocean, not sure how you could get something wrapped around it and then activated at your time of choosing.
LeftToaster@reddit
It's very simple to hook, drag and damage a submarine cable with an anchor. It happens from time to time in ports where ships drop anchor.
The Baltic Sea is not particularly deep - average of 55 meters. Most container ships carry 10 - 13 'shots' of anchor chain - with each shot being 30m. So that's 300 - 390m of anchor chain.
hikingmike@reddit
Well, maybe if we knew how it was done manually, we could work out a way to do it delayed automatically. The deep in the ocean part doesn't matter. They were cut somehow.
CriticG7tv@reddit
It will be interesting to watch this situation develop, though I'm trying not to make assumptions. I'm not sure the ship being Chinese flagged is indicative of anything or not, and the ship did depart from Russia. As far as I've heard, we still don't know for certain if it was actually this ship that's responsible.
Definitely suspicious though...
LeftToaster@reddit
I'll add a couple of points to the intrigue.
Under patterns of behavior
Under unusual behavior:
GumnyBear@reddit
What map is this
LeftToaster@reddit
There are numerous publicly accessible AIS transponder tracking sites. try www.vesselfinder.com
Right-Influence617@reddit
Swedish source for the location of the cables
Edit: Exact location of the Yi Peng 3, the ship suspected of cutting cables in the Baltic this week.
It left the Russian port of Murmansk and is headed towards an "unspecified" destination.
BeneficialBack1264@reddit
I did not expect the Chinese navy to be involved.
I'd say payment for the cut cable by seizure of the ship is a fair trade.
pintord@reddit
I say cut all cables to CCP and RU.
thefedfox64@reddit
They are on land between the two...so...
humanredditor45@reddit
Bomb them?
thefedfox64@reddit
Oh no no, you have to do it subtly, like dragging and anchor on the seabed so....you have an excuse. And people will say it's an accident as not to appear warmongers
xphoney@reddit
Ship isn’t worth much above scrap
jammin_jalapeno27@reddit
But Chinese intelligence officers imbedded in the crew however…
kalitarios@reddit
The ones who mysteriously drowned after poisoning themselves just before being overtaken?
JensenJustJensen@reddit
Impress its crew.
MontaukMonster2@reddit
If we tell them how big Arnold Palmer's tallywhacker was, maybe that might impress them?
MeDThempb@reddit
Best I can do is juggle for them.
hairbowgirl@reddit
They aren’t worth much more than scrap either.
Prepsov@reddit
rageling@reddit
Why would a ship that knows it's being tracked and the only one in the area cut the cable on purpose, knowing full well it would come back to them.
If I was a military using drones or subs to cut cables, I'd want as much plausible deniability as possible, like an innocent chinese cargo ship.
livingstar@reddit
Rumours saying there are pictures of a submarine onboard.
Literally_A_Halfling@reddit
Source for these rumors?
livingstar@reddit
Old danish sailor. Intel like this can spread fast and easy in Denmark. But its still rumours. Warship HDMS Soeloeven are anchored next to them and no media in Denmark are reporting this yet. So rumours are only rumours for now. But HDMS Hvidbjoernen, another Danish Navy Warship is heading their way.
ConclusionOk912@reddit
me
elinamebro@reddit
brathafurer@reddit
Oh Good Grief. Total BS
Angry_Old_Dood@reddit
Lmao you'd think the pictures would accompany the rumors
Dry-Palpitation4499@reddit
That’s the genius of it.
BeneficialBack1264@reddit
Can they gift themselves both the sub and the cargo ship?
Midnight2012@reddit
I'm pretty sure the Baltic sea (aka NATO sea) is like the most heavily monitored body of water on earth as far as submarines. Boats are different to track tho.
The place is crisscrossed with hydrophones, etc.
Minimum_Guitar4305@reddit
"What you going to do about it?🤷♂️
gittenlucky@reddit
I can’t tell if you are serious or not… Russian and China have some mutual interests, of course they are cooperating. In this instance, I’m betting they find nothing on the surface ship. It’s a distraction while the sub moves away…
Quiet-Tackle-5993@reddit
Not easy to hide a sub in those waters, a submersible drone, though, sounds pretty plausibly
BeneficialBack1264@reddit
I just did not think China was involved with cutting cables, as I was unaware. Russia I knew about.
And that's the whole story.
raxdoh@reddit
I’d be more surprised if china is not involved.
errorryy@reddit
Taiwan cut off 7nm chips to China, esp Hwawei, recently. US policy has been, always, the one China policy--despite Pelosi grandstanding.
Rougaroux1969@reddit
Depends on if they did it the easy way using an ROV on board, which could easily be thrown over, or if they are capable of using a submarine for this which is much more difficult.
thumos_et_logos@reddit
They already cut one earlier in the year. They dragged their anchor until they caught it and then tore the line. Then sailed back to China and claimed it was unintentional and wouldn’t return to face investigation.
therapistofcats@reddit
It's a bulk carrier. Not really Chinese Navy
beardedliberal@reddit
My sweet summer child.
bigjonxmas@reddit
UPDATE?
legleg339@reddit
nothing much has changed really, p525 is still guarding yi peng, HVIDBJOERNEN is back on public AIS for the last couple hours patrolling and SOELOEVEN seems to be back on a regular patrol or going to refuel or something
AnanasAnarchist@reddit
It's a ship going from Russia to Egypt.
What if it was actually Russians performing sabotage (or someone else) and this Yi Peng 3 ahip is just a scapegoat? I mean it's a tanker, not like sea cables are the primary thing they deal with.
jerseycoyote@reddit
This is the most reasonable explanation. It doesn't make much sense for China to get involved at this level on behalf of Russia. China cooperated with Finland's investigation when a Chinese container ship damaged an undersea gas pipeline last year
elastic-craptastic@reddit
I saw something on YouTube a couple months ago about one of these wires being cut and when they got down to finally getting them out of the ocean they were definitely pulled up and cut with a tool. There's some scientific base that listens to the ocean or some s*** that wants the weather warmed up and they can get to their office somewhere in Scandinavia they realize their internet was down and had to do a big investigation. I'm going to have to do a YouTube history search
bmorebredmon@reddit
Thanks so much for the post
Padgriffin@reddit
I think the most obvious question is why China would use a ship under the Chinese flag for something like this. The most obvious choice would be using a ship under a flag of convenience, it doesn’t match their MO nor does it benefit them to be this blatant
kufsi@reddit
Yi peng 3 appears to be dragging anchor and went back and forth over the cables. You can see it just looking at the trace back of their path. I don’t think that it was a distraction or scapegoat thing, they made it pretty obvious.
The question is more about whether this was a deliberate attempt to damage the cables or a malfunction and/or snag and they tried to un-snag their anchor.
Quiet-Tackle-5993@reddit
What are the odds of accidentally snagging a cable with your anchor unless you’re intentionally dragging it? Gotta be pretty damn low
kufsi@reddit
Almost impossible, pretty easy if you are dragging though, also considering that boats aren’t supposed to anchor in the middle of a shipping lane it’s really unlikely.
Dulcedoll@reddit
I've had pretty bad days at work. I've never had "my mistake at work put us materially closer to WWIII" bad days.
kufsi@reddit
Yeah lol same here. I think that is actually the least likely scenario though. There is no logical reason that they would drop anchor right where they did, malfunction or sabotage makes much more sense.
backcountry57@reddit
The average depth of the Baltic sea is 180ft. It's really shallow. All they have to do is drag an anchor along the seabed from coordinate X for a couple miles, then carry on as normal.
inorite234@reddit
Sink it.
Fuck them all. The American people voted for this, let it all burn
makk73@reddit
The American people voted for the Chinese to attack commutation cables in The Baltic and for The Danish Navy to intervene?
inorite234@reddit
They voted for trump, they voted for every decision he is going to make.
Ask any of them why and you'll get a varying amount of reasons why.
FarmingDowns@reddit
Honest question, do you wear your helmet indoors or only outside?
fjb_fkh@reddit
Beanie hat with a prop on top. Big brains needs to vent.
FarmingDowns@reddit
Hahaha nice
makk73@reddit
What does this have to do with Trump?
He isn’t in office, yet.
And in any case, not every single thing that happens in The World is attributable to American Domestic Politics.
Countries will act in their own rational (or what they see as rational) self interest regardless of what happens or doesn’t happen in US electoral cycles.
makk73@reddit
What does this have to do with “the American people”?
pepchang@reddit
President elect trump would know a danish of you filled it with fruit dipped it in coffee and said here is your day nish sir, It's European for Big Mac.
Jugzrevenge@reddit
Loose lips and all that?!?! Hi China!
_chip@reddit
It’s so hard to find info. Were they stopped and boarded ?
LeftToaster@reddit
AIS tracking shows the Chinese registered container ship Yi Peng 3 was followed by 2 Danish patrol ships and intercepted. It is at anchor now, just outside of the shipping channel. The original patrol ship that followed it through the Danish Straits, identified as hull number P525, which appears to be the HDMS Rota also anchored near the Yi Peng 3 for several hours. It was joined by a Danish Navy diver support ship, the HDMS Soeloeven which also anchored nearby. The HDMS Rota has since left the scene proceeded to the Island of Anholt. At about the time the Soeloeven got to the scene, a much larger Danish warship, the frigate HDMS Hvidbjoernew did a 180 degree turn and started steaming towards the site where the 2 ships are at anchor. The HDMS Hvidbjoernew is now about 13 miles away.
It appears that the first patrol ship, the HDMS Rota, followed, intercepted and stopped the Yi Peng 3. The dive support ship may be there to investigate, or possibly it was just an asset in the area. Lots of questions. Did the Seoloeven, which sailed to Anholt, take crew off for questioning? It would they wait for the Hvidbjoernew which carries a helicopter?
_chip@reddit
Thank you
TehHamburgler@reddit
Looks like it says "anchored"
sovietarmyfan@reddit
This will become a diplomatic nightmare. They can take in the Chinese suspects, but China will pressure Denmark heavily to get them free before they squeal.
agentobtuse@reddit
Danish navy: you cut these cables? Chinese navy: meow
sim-pit@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bgnaY2nd8
legleg339@reddit
HDMS SOELOEVEN appears to be leaving the scene, DNK NAVY PATROL P525 arriving on scene, HDMS HVIDBJOERNEN still off AIS so likely lurking about nearby quietly, YI PENG 3 still at anchor and hasnt moved
Fluid-Bread3480@reddit
wsj already blaming russia for the cut cable xD https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russia-suspected-as-baltic-undersea-cables-cut-in-apparent-sabotage-801cb392
mn25dNx77B@reddit
Sink it
Frontpageorlurk@reddit
My thoughts exactly. Show these cunts why we spend a trillion dollars a year on defense.
livingstar@reddit
Rumoura of pictures of a submarine unboard Yi Peng 3
desertstudiocactus@reddit
From where?
livingstar@reddit
People on Denmark
desertstudiocactus@reddit
Got a link?
livingstar@reddit
Rumours are rumours. Denmark is small country so intel spreading fast and easy. Could be wrong but let’s wait and see.
Huppelkutje@reddit
So bullshit.
livingstar@reddit
Rumours can easily be billshit.
Huppelkutje@reddit
Why are you helping spread them, then?
livingstar@reddit
I did label the Intel as rumours. But I believe the source. Old danish sailor and Denmark is a fairly small country so these ind of Intel can spread fast among sailors. So I think this subreddit can handle plausible rumours, can you?
desertstudiocactus@reddit
Tense times indeed
Thoraxe474@reddit
Get em
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Nothing like hoping for the start of WWIII!
Thoraxe474@reddit
How long can everyone just let Russia and China do bad things with no consequences?
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Honest question, is WWIII worth the cost to you?
Echad_HaAm@reddit
Honest question, is stopping a ship that caused a hostile act of sabotage really something you believe has an even remote chance of starting WWIII?
And just how much sabotage and damage are you willing to bend over and take while soothing yourself that it's ok to be victimized repeatedly and not seek even the most basic level of accountability for the perpetrator because of the utterly false and ridiculous belief that it would mean starting a world war?
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Direct kinetic engagements are usually the type of event that ignites a hot war, especially when Russia and China seem all too eager to engage in violence right now.
It’s ironic because I believe we hold the same view that China’s actions are bad in this scenario but it seems one of us is acting solely from emotions/anger.
dirty-E30@reddit
Yeah to me this is yet another baiting of NATO. They could have and probably should have used a sub but decided to operste from the surface. Why?
xoakbur@reddit
Yes, you. Your emotion is fear.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Please explain.
Ffdmatt@reddit
Stopping a ship from engaging in a hostile act of sabotage is a rational conclusion.
Ignoring it because we're afraid they might get angry and hit back is a fear-based conclusion.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
And where did I say to ignore it? You’ve seen that I voiced a different approach and decided it didn’t fit into the weekly narrative that you’ve been told to believe so now you assume to know all of my thoughts, it’s a typical thought process of someone who’s been captured.
King0Horse@reddit
This is especially ironic when you follow it up with:
Because nobody else but you has their own thoughts? Do you believe that you, alone, are completely informed and see through all propaganda?
People aren't assuming to know all of your deepest thoughts you paranoid tool, they're responding to your actual words, because your thoughts, which you typed out here, are trash. I can't imagine the thoughts that you keep to yourself are any better if these turds are the ones you deemed worthy of being read by other people.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
I dared pose a question which is counter-narrative and what followed were accusations which required assumptions to be made about my position. When I ask do you want WWIII does that mean I support ignoring Chinese aggression? You see it’s quite the leap to make and one that was made because captured minds don’t discuss, they argue and bicker from emotional appeals and personal insults rather than discussing the topic.
ExpertCatJuggler@reddit
Marine here. Yes.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
May God have mercy on your soul.
EllemenoB@reddit
So you rather cower in the corner and let others get away with this?
Then go. Go sit in your corner while the world moves on.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
This is such a predictable Reddit behavior. I said something you don’t like and now you are assuming you know every thought I have.
It’s ironic because I think a diplomatic/economic response should be used first, but that doesn’t fit your echo chamber narrative does it? It’s wild seeing how Reddit used to be anti-violence now the echo chamber wants violence.
IndividualWear4369@reddit
That's why you are a dumbass.
Diplomatic/Economic responses don't work, they only appear to.
The CCP and Russia know what they are doing. This isn't some rogue ship captain "accidentally" dragging their anchor across cables. They have been following the same strategy for decades: foment chaos, and act innocent.
They know they can't take us on militarily so the play is to try to cause collapse in our systems until we are weak enough so they can make a move.
Any response by the West is to be painted as unprovoked aggression.
The Cold War never ended bud.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
My God you’re so stuck in a fear mindset it’s painful. You really can’t see past the Red Scare can you?
Who said I thought this ship was “accidentally” doing anything? Again you’re captured mind cannot fathom a discussion and rather you argue and bicker, where has that gotten you?
IndividualWear4369@reddit
Until the CCP falls, and China's people decide it's fate, and not just it's upper class, I will always distrust China.
Same with Russia. They changed out the roster but it's still the same upper crust making the decisions.
You don't understand history, you don't understand geopolitics, and it is abundantly clear your reading comprehension is garbage if you didn't understand why I put accidentally in quotations marks.
If you trust China or Russia, you are living in a false reality bud.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
You’re so emotionally pepped up and stuck that you can’t see you’ve again made huge assumptions and are projecting them on to me. At this point you’re the equivalent of someone talking to themselves having a panic attack. I pity you.
ExpertCatJuggler@reddit
It ain’t my soul he’ll need mercy for in this scenario 🙂↕️
USAFmuzzlephucker@reddit
"Hitler annexed Czechoslovakian Sudatenland? So? Is it worth another world war?" "The Germans are rearming and threatening their neighbors? So? Is it worth another world war?"
The point being responding with strength in each of these scenarios could have prevented a wider conflict EARLIER. Responding with weakness only delays the inevitable and makes the results MUCH worse and MUCH more deadly.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
You and I agree on a strategic/philosophic basis but our execution is obviously different. Further does you equate the cutting of internet sea cables to the invasion of foreign lands? You can’t just group every action into one category and kick and scream that you want war. You have no idea what war is like and the absolute hell it produces for everyone involved.
USAFmuzzlephucker@reddit
Actually, I do know what war is like. Not only from personal experience but I also chose to study it after I left the service.
I'm not saying open fire on it. I'm not saying sink it. I'm saying impound it. I'm saying hold the operators accountable. I'm saying don't just sweep it under the rug, "oh it was an accident" we know it wasn't and there should be solid consequences.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Which confirms my point above, I never said ignore it. You’ve seen and I agree on taking action but outright violence can only be revered for the last resort and yet people on this subreddit seem all too willing to cry “war!” From the comfort of their sofas and have little if any clue what history has to teach us about armed conflicts.
No_Science_3845@reddit
Look at the bright side, makes all the prepping worth it.
Grouchy-Ebb9550@reddit
Is being attacked and not doing anything in responses worth it to you? How many times could I punch your mother in the face without you wanting to do something to stop it? Is me saying I'm gonna attack other people enough for you to not defend your family? You that big of a pussy?
hanumanCT@reddit
The word we are looking for is 'brinkmanship'
dirty-E30@reddit
Where have you been?
Been there arguably since Putin annexed Crimea but almost certainly since he invaded Ukraine.
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Want to have your worldview rocked?
Here’s the NATO chief admitting that NATO expansion eastward prompted Russia to invade Ukraine. Here
Turns out world affairs are much more complicated then most people think.
Ok_Atmosphere_3547@reddit
Nothing like being a cowardly bootlicker
HaveYouAwoken@reddit
Are you projecting or do you sincerely believe WWIII is a desirable scenario?
Mr_E_Monkey@reddit
They weren't worried about that when they cut the cable?
TDG71@reddit
You mean, accountability.
BennificentKen@reddit
Oh fun - I never thought this stage of WWIII would be tracked by marine AIS transponder.
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Ships engaged in actions like this are not the causes of wars in the post-cold war era. If they were we would have been at war a hundred times over the last century
BennificentKen@reddit
Oh, I know.
IMO, WWIII started in 2014, so I'm just talking about the stage where we go from rare big moves and small steps in between to bigger steps at a faster pace.
TastyProof@reddit
It says the ship is 'constrained by her draught'. So is it 'stuck' in shallow water? Could it be the navy is there to help? I dunno i'm not a sailor.
runningdevops@reddit
This is normal and expected, nothing to do with the Navy.
It means she is claiming that she's in a deep channel that she cannot leave without risk of running aground, so the normal rules of right-of-way do not apply. Imagine another vessel like a fishing boat dragging nets is crossing her path -- often she would change course to avoid the other boat. But she is advertising that she cannot. It's normal given the shallowness of the area she's in.
brathafurer@reddit
I agree it is most likely not the chinese ship that cut the cables. This is a bulk carrier and is not configured as a Special Ops ship. Could be customs or a party just to question them if they did pass over the cables near the time they were cut.... but many ships did
Quiet-Tackle-5993@reddit
You don’t need a special ops ship to cut a cable in waters that shallow. Could easily be an underwater drone, etc. Plenty of possibilities
Vivid-Way@reddit
maybe they are defecting… red october… red october…
Fantastic_Baseball45@reddit
I'm guessing the maralago classified documents assisted the Chinese military with locations.
improbablydrunknlw@reddit
Or, and just maybe, they looked at the publicly available and well mapped list of submarine cables
AntidoteToMyAss@reddit
Figures Drumph would be behind this.
Fantastic_Baseball45@reddit
I'm spit balling 😂 🤣
nomamesgueyz@reddit
Why would the cheeky Chinese do that?
LeftToaster@reddit
Probing, testing response and vulnerability. Same reason Russia sends long range bombers and patrol aircraft into (or very close to) NORAD airspace.
Or alternatively, trying to help Russia out by seeding public fatigue with conflict.
brathafurer@reddit
This also may be nothing more than the Chinese ship was dragging its anchor and damaged the cables
LeftToaster@reddit
This will obviously be the position of the Chinese captain, but to drag an anchor over 2 separate communications cables that run in different directions? Seems unlikely to be accidental.
brathafurer@reddit
True, seems unlikely but in any case it most likely isn't the chinese vessel, unless they claim they dragged their anchor. But this is a bulk carrier not a special ops ship. Its obvious immediately its not a special ops ship. See my other posts with links
LeftToaster@reddit
It doesn't take a 'special ops' ship to cut a communications cable. You just have to intentionally drag your anchor over the known location of the cable.
brathafurer@reddit
See my link earlier today on an equivalent US vessel, the MV Ocean Trader (google it). Not much info is around. I did one tour on the Ocean Trader
brathafurer@reddit
It does, It takes at minimum special outfitted divers with equipment and/or an ROV. Usually both. These have to be launched and recovered all surreptitiously and when a vessel is stationary. Near impossible to do underway
LeftToaster@reddit
Last year another Chinese cargo ship accidentally dragged an anchor and 'accidentally' cut a gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia.
brathafurer@reddit
True. Still might be the case here, maybe for only one cable though.
brathafurer@reddit
Most likely this vessel or one like it. Remove spaces from url
https: //www .datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/irish-military-escorts-russian-spy-ship-away-from-subsea-cables/
Empty_Awareness2761@reddit
Boycott most Chinese made goods…
kriger33@reddit
I agree. Wage war with your wallet. It cracks me up (and makes me want to weep) how many acquaintances I know that will complain about China then they will be talking about some deals on useless junk they got on Temu 1 minute later.
The lack of (barely) abstract thinking in our culture is absolutely terrifying.
I get it's hard to avoid Chinese made goods, but for crying out loud at least try if you're going to bitch and moan.
Empty_Awareness2761@reddit
If a good amount of us just stop buying stuff from mainland china, it’ll dry them up quickly. The tariffs won’t mean jacksh*t at that point.
kriger33@reddit
Exactly. But God forbid anyone actually puts effort in on their own accord. And so many are the same people yelling about personal choice and keeping the government out. Then won't do shit unless made to... by the government.
multitoucher@reddit
What if it's a different actor cutting the cables precisely as the Chinese vessel passes over it?
kriger33@reddit
That's my thought. China cares too much about trade and $$$ to blow it all on something like this. It's honestly a huge factor currently keeping them out of Taiwan. It would implode their economy. That economy is the CCP life line. Don't get me wrong it would be catastrophic to the entire global economy, but it would be the end of China as we know it.
If they were to make a move on the EU it would be a hail Mary play, not something that's a pain in the ass inconvenience to the EU. Seems very risky for very little strategic pay off on their end.
This has Russian finger prints all over it IMO
*BTW not trying to downplay the significance of these undersea cables.
brathafurer@reddit
That is very possible. This chinese ship is a bulk carrier not equipped for special Ops. Google Russian ship Yantar. This russian ship, or one similar, is most likely
Active-Budget4328@reddit
Maybe China is using the cover to test its own response for future preparedness. Anyways I hope the fat Pooh bear falls down the stairs
Opposite_Ad_1707@reddit
It would be more fun to see him get involved with a Russian window. I hear they are brutal
LeftToaster@reddit
What if it's a sea monster?
Qontherecord@reddit
WAR WAR WAR WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
charlestontime@reddit
What humans do best.
brathafurer@reddit
This chinese ship is not configured as a special Ops vessel. Its a bulk carrier.
The US has its own special Ops vessel. The MV Ocean Trader. Kind of a boring name isn't it.
You won't find much info on this ship. I did one tour on it.
https: //www .twz.com/21261/americas-elusive-special-operations-mothership-is-packing-stealth-speedboats
abruptcontriveddingo@reddit
What did you do on the Oceanside?
brathafurer@reddit
Broadly speaking Communications/Electronics
Qontherecord@reddit
how are you able to track danish military movements?
Chris56855865@reddit
Probably AIS. It's not war yet, they won't turn off everything.
Qontherecord@reddit
Probably pretty standard and I'm just dumb, but seems kind of shocking.
Chris56855865@reddit
Nah, I think during peacetime warships have to have their transponder on, just like military aircraft. I was able to see RAF and USAF cargo aircraft, and even some Global Hawk drones via ADS-B (the same thing Flightradar24 uses) with my own software defined radio and free software.
Important_Jaguar_392@reddit
Don’t tease me, I need more info!
Snoo-72988@reddit
Pretty sure there have been instances in the past where captains forgot to lift their anchor, and that ended up damaging cables. Just because a cable was cut doesn't mean that there was some ill intent to disrupt coms.
LeftToaster@reddit
Two undersea cables that run in different directions?
geneticeffects@reddit
And so now that you have made this argument on China’s behalf, what would convince you it was intentional? What would you need to see/hear/learn to convince you?
Snoo-72988@reddit
What would convince you it wasn’t intentional?
geneticeffects@reddit
You didn’t answer my question.
Snoo-72988@reddit
Because my point is that an accident is just as likely of an explanation as an intentional act. You don’t have any evidence that this was intentional.
geneticeffects@reddit
That doesn’t answer the question.
Bellypats@reddit
Proof is the answer to your question. But the burden of proof will be upon the investigators.
Snoo-72988@reddit
Internal communications showing intent.
thefedfox64@reddit
Would the fact that the shipping company just within the last month transferred captain to a Russian make any difference? Also that they just left a Russian Port, and the fact that they went over that area no less than 3 times as well? Sailing is not like driving a car, opp forgot my cell phone. There is no real reason to sail forward, turn a giant cargo ship around, go back, then turn it around again and go forward, all within like 50 miles.
geneticeffects@reddit
China’s internal communications? You trust the Chinese government to admit they did it?
Snoo-72988@reddit
If there’s no evidence to show intent, what makes you think this is intentional?
geneticeffects@reddit
You keep avoiding answering…
Snoo-72988@reddit
I’m noticing I’m not the only one not answering questions.
geneticeffects@reddit
Another example of you not answering the question. ✅
Snoo-72988@reddit
👍
geneticeffects@reddit
And another…
Blizzhackers@reddit
Just fucking make out already.
Thks4alldafish42@reddit
Beat me to it
Charley2014@reddit
As someone who works on boats, you will seriously f up your ship if you forget to lift the anchor.
Snoo-72988@reddit
I'm fully aware, but it happens more frequently than you'd imagine.
ComprehensiveKiwi666@reddit
Yeah. That’s not what happened comrade
Charley2014@reddit
“Dragging anchor” can occur due to heavy winds or sea conditions and happens often. It’s why we have bridge watch 27/4 whilst at anchor, to make sure we don’t hit anything close by. Forgetting to pull up your anchor and putting your engines into gear is a big problem. Could be lousy journalism but the wording here makes a difference.
Snoo-72988@reddit
Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification.
Internal-Ad-9401@reddit
In this case it’s the foreign enemy soooo it’s likely going to be taken as malicious intent.
Snoo-72988@reddit
China? Germany and Denmark don't consider China a foreign enemy.
Internal-Ad-9401@reddit
They’re apart of NATO and nato has considered China a country that is a threat. Just because they don’t come out and say it on their own they’re affiliated with that position that Nato takes.
Girafferage@reddit
Wacky how they always forget the anchor when it targets foreign cables but never when it could hit a Chinese one lol
AdditionalAd9794@reddit
Except but russian and western intelligence agencies released warning underwater infrastructure would be targeted just a week and a half prior
Important_Jaguar_392@reddit
“Two Baltic Sea data cables have been damaged, and the Chinese Carrier Yi Peng is the most likely suspect.“
HereticBanana@reddit
Just a clarification: The Yi Peng is currently off the coast of Taiwan, the Yi Peng 3 however...
Internal-Ad-9401@reddit
Kind of in a suspicious spot imo. What real reason would they have there aside from pre planned shipments
CrimsonSpinel@reddit
CharismaticAlbino@reddit
Ben Schwartz and Jenny Slate tearing it UP! Couple a funny MFers right there
Puzzleheaded_Sea6731@reddit
That's Don Rickles.
CharismaticAlbino@reddit
Pfffft, my bad! I'm so dumb
SystematicHydromatic@reddit
The question is, will they do anything about it? Like, board it and search it.
livingstar@reddit
No they just stopped for no reason at all and HDMS Soeloeven of the Danish Navy approaching just to greet them from a distance.
KeepingItSFW@reddit
Yi Peng 2: The Electric Boogaloo
MrD3a7h@reddit
This should read "Chinese Bulk Carrier Yi Peng."
ProfDepressor@reddit
Get to your bunkers! Don't come out for 25 years no matter what! Do it now!
Desperate-Builder287@reddit
This will be the first type of attacks in any ' Hot ' war ..hence the UK/RN is investing millions in this area...RFA Stirling Castle being the latest in operation.
OSI_Hunter_Gathers@reddit
The Vikings are coming!
ripfritz@reddit
Jeeze
micksta323@reddit
And then what happens?
Logical___Conclusion@reddit
Oh, a Chinese invasion of Taiwan at the end of Biden's term makes sense.
SquiddyGO@reddit
Would make more sense to do it when the weak dictator takes over
Ecstatic_Bee6067@reddit
Touch the boats. Touch the boats. Touch the boats.
Internal-Ad-9401@reddit
We don’t like it when our boats are touched lol fafo
hotdoginathermos@reddit
Remember what happened last time...
ConclusionOk912@reddit
one piece is starting to make a lot more sense
Ho_Advice_8483@reddit
Any tools used are definitely tossed overboard by now.
Crocs_n_Glocks@reddit
I was in the US Coast Guard so I can't speak precisely to the Danes...but yeah no worries they know that's a thing, there are probably three dozen sailors aboard each Navy ship watching every inch of the Chinese deck just hoping they toss something overboard to retrieve.
thefedfox64@reddit
I believe they use their anchor to drag/catch and snap the cable. Happened previously with another Chinese ship
GraniteOak5@reddit
And I believe they use their anchor to make a sick 180 degree turn in the blink of an eye. Happened in Pirates of the Caribbean. It could also be what you said but this plan has more panache so just spitballin’.
thefedfox64@reddit
I thought that was that alien movie with Rihanna and Liam Neison aboard some old ww2 ship.
But they made multiple 180 degree turns, cause I believe they sail back and forth over it 3 times....that's a lot of toyko drifting
buttscratcher3k@reddit
Yes I too saw this documentary.
geman777@reddit
Ahh battleship.... I enjoyed that trash film
thefedfox64@reddit
Yes thank you.
GraniteOak5@reddit
Good points! We could be dealing with some kind of Chinese/pirate/alien/Liam Neeson alliance here and if that’s how World War III kicks off I doubt anyone would even be mad.
LikwidDef@reddit
Tru
Jaicobb@reddit
Current status of the ship is it's weighed down by its draught.
hereforthelaughs37@reddit
Yeah, what does that mean?
thefedfox64@reddit
Like dragging an anchor
buttscratcher3k@reddit
If they were smart they'd have special anchor with a little extra chain connected, disconnect the chain after a certain distance and nobody will ever know.
sirlearnzalot@reddit
the Danes know to look for the orange colored scissor handles as they’d easily stand out in the ocean
30yearCurse@reddit
shame if hit a mine and sank...
DOMlNOS@reddit
I hope this fishing vessel is on its way to capture some footage
brathafurer@reddit
Jebus This one
https: //www .navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/russian-spy-ship-yantar-loitering-near-trans-atlantic-internet-cables/#prettyPhoto
USAFmuzzlephucker@reddit
Did the military vessels turn off transponders? The HDMS SOELOEVEN hasn't updated in about an hour and I can't find the other vessels mentioned nearby. Meanwhile the YI PENG 3 shows "at anchor" as of 3 mins ago.
I'm unfamiliar w naval military procedures or capabilities so forgive my ignorance.
I know for military air ops, they'll turn off transponders when conducting real world operations.
LeftToaster@reddit
It is showing 'at anchor' right next to the Yi Peng 3
USAFmuzzlephucker@reddit
Must have be my connection. It still showed "at speed" when I clicked on it w the last update of an hour ago.
brathafurer@reddit
I don't think it was the chinese ship. It is not equipped for special ops. The Danish vessels could be nothing more than customs or possibly to question them.
It was most likely the russian ship Yantar or one like it (Google Yantar)
brathafurer@reddit
This one.
https: // www. navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/russian-spy-ship-yantar-loitering-near-trans-atlantic-internet-cables/#prettyPhoto
brathafurer@reddit
Most likely the Yantar or one similar
https: //www .theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-ship-escorted-away-from-internet-cables-in-irish-sea
Chris_WRB@reddit
Interesting... I'm keeping tabs on this
GrandMoffJenkins@reddit
Picture of the 3 Danish ships giving chase...
First_Bed1662@reddit
donairdaddydick@reddit
This is the lions whose balls got tugged right?
buttscratcher3k@reddit
lmao I have no idea what this is referring to but it made me laugh
donairdaddydick@reddit
There’s a video of a lioness who obviously wants some more and just starts grabbing and chomping buddy’s nuts.
buttscratcher3k@reddit
reading this and looking at the sad lion's face is too much rn lmao
First_Bed1662@reddit
Nah different cat
Pretend_Builder5094@reddit
And rumors says it’s berserkers out of control in a mushroom lsd state, tomorrow Denmark clams no responsibility as they were reincarnated Vikings 🦾
brathafurer@reddit
Most likely russian spy ship Yantar. Google Yantar for story
Embarrassed_Set7387@reddit
Sink that bitch
brathafurer@reddit
Possible Misinfo put out by russia to draw attention away. Also vessels approaching vessel (now at anchor) could be normal customs or just to cuestion Captain & crew. Most likely coincidence passing so close to cables. Many ships do and did. This is the ship to suspect.
This ship
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/russian-spy-ship-yantar-loitering-near-trans-atlantic-internet-cables/#prettyPhoto
Hammer0173@reddit
HDMS SOELOEVEN is approaching!
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9224984
buttscratcher3k@reddit
Soeloeven deez nutz
LeftToaster@reddit
The Soeloeven is a diver support ship - it's now on site. The HDMS Hvidbjoernen, a Thetis Class patrol frigate is also heading that way.
CeruleanFlytrap@reddit
Being able to watch this in real time is pretty damn cool.
Seattle_gldr_rdr@reddit
Chinese?!
suchdogeverymeme@reddit
Patsy
jdthejerk@reddit
Sink it with a limpet. Blame in on an old WW2 mine.
Oniriggers@reddit
Good distraction move? We shall see…
Human-Entrepreneur77@reddit
Based on the latest AIS data, Yi Peng 3 has left the Kattegat shipping lane and appears to be escorted by a Danish Navy vessel. Online reports suggest that a Danish pilot was placed onboard the vessel during the afternoon of November 19 as it continued passing through Danish Straits
thatguyinyourclass94@reddit
what app is this?
chutulu@reddit
vesselfinder.com
CeruleanFlytrap@reddit
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:213234/zoom:14
LarsVigo45-70axe@reddit
Put couple torpedoes in the side of the big whale, only way to handle a bully
Possible-Tangelo9344@reddit
And what'll happen to the Chinese...?
aneurism75@reddit
China and Russia both all of a sudden cutting internet cables prodigiously... maybe the ground work before a major escalation of some sort...
ProfessionalCreme119@reddit
No because they've never done this before. So they don't quite know how to gauge our response and repair time. Which is why they're likely doing this now as a test to gauge our response and repair time.
Puzzleheaded_Donut_6@reddit
Damn, I thought we had until January for the shenanigans to begin.
westonriebe@reddit
This makes more sense, they are practicing for cutting Taiwan’s cables
westonriebe@reddit
Russia really didnt seam to have a particular reason to do this
ConsciousWhirlpool@reddit
Mmm, Danish.
untimelyawakening@reddit
verge365@reddit
I hope they catch them and publicly embarrass them for their b.s.
livingstar@reddit
Dutch? Thought it was the Danish Navy
ManliestManHam@reddit
is that normal or abnormal? I wasn't paying attention before wires got cut and do not know what is normal.
yehghurl@reddit
It's normal for internet cables to be accidentally damaged but not normal for aggressive nations to be cutting them on purpose.
ManliestManHam@reddit
sure. is the Danish ships converging normal is more what I'm asking
gwhh@reddit
More like accidentally on purpose.
pnwguy1985@reddit
Would be cool if they would capture said ship.
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
Little pay back for power hosing the RotP supply ships in the South China Sea.
PresentSundae1738@reddit
Time to cut a Chinese underwater cable. Play the same game without worry of escalation.
Joros89@reddit
Absolutely wild. Smoke em if you got em guys and gals.
Leo-1A3-A5@reddit
Just as fake as the account
Leo-1A3-A5@reddit
I stand corrected, Danish media is reporting on this as well https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2024-11-19-soevaernet-foelger-kinesisk-skib-der-var-taet-paa-beskadigede-kabler
Big-Professional-187@reddit
Lol