I'm Canadian and everybody I know hates his fucking guts. The people of the maritime provinces are ashamed to be associated with Trudeau and everything that goes on past New Brunswick
Whatever Americans are fed about Canadians all being holier than thou hyper liberals comes only from the GTA and BC. The millions of normal people who live here suffer at their hands and we can barely speak out about it.
Grew up in Central Ontario, moved to the states at 12. Would visit family when I could, most in Toronto and Peterborough. Visited this past April to see my great Aunt and the city was almost unrecognizable. Everything smelled, construction jobs halting traffic but no one working. Garbage everywhere. Everything seemed barely functional.
Only worse place I’ve lived was Vancouver, but even then it seemed contained?
I met some Albertans and they were some of the most politically relatable people I've ever met as a Californian who would be labeled "conservative".
I feel for Saskatchewan, Alberta, and the non-coastal provinces. I'd personally be very much in favor of it if y'all ever wanted to become states instead. Same if you ever needed help shooting your way out of a dictatorship to be normal and independent Canada again.
tldr Canadians deserve to be free--lotta good leafs up there.
as an american who’s entire family is form quebec, why are they over represented in the government? does canada not have balances against tyranny of the majority?
We're the second most populous province in the dominion.
So we got the second most seats.
That is all.
And since the GTA and Montréal are the most populous cities in the country, accounting when combined for near a fourth of the total canadian population, most parties focus their effort and political engagements on both citites since they have the most seats.
gee, it's almost like check-and-balance measures for country areas like the US electoral college to prevent major cities from dominating the rest of the nation exist for a reason
Might not know this if you've never left one, but the interests and concerns of people in those cities are different to the interests and concerns of people outside of them. Very, very different. If there isn't a counterbalancing element of some form, then they basically have no representation of their issues. Issues which, if not properly addressed, don't just cause weird people to be sad like urbanite social problems. Their issues cause famines and ecological disasters when they're ignored. So they give them the means to be fairly represented.
No one said their interests can't be different, the question was why someone living in a less populated region is more of a human being than the person who lives in a city.
Also, farmers are often the people who vote against dealing with ecological disasters because it would impact their short term profits, and let's not forget that they tend to largely exist off of government subsidies, which the government can't pay if the cash cows that are cities go tits up because you ignored the "urbanite social problems" that for some reason are not real.
This is why I hate rural particularists and farmer's lobbies. It's not that they want to be taken into account or make reasonable compromises, they fundamentally don't seem to value people other than them as human beings.
Whoever takes the biggest slice of pie. Say you have 10 parties and 100 voters, 8 parties get 10 votes each while one gets 11 and the other 9. The one with 11 votes wins even though it was only 11% of the vote.
Something we learn in school is a majority election vs minority election, where the 'ruling party' (the person who has the most seats and thus the Prime Minister) has more or less than 50% of the total seats and thus has the power to make changes by themselves, or has to convince other parties in the house to hop on board with their ideas to get anything done.
The prime minister the leader of the party that can secure confidence of the house. That 33% represents the number of people who voted for liberal members of parliament. Currently the liberals have the most seats but not greater than 50% required to make a majority.
The conservative party is the official opposition with the second most number of seats.
Because the liberals and Justin Trudeau have a minority government they have to maintain support from other parties and often have to capitulate to their demands for that support.
All the legislation put forward by the Liberals is DOA unless they can get another party to support their bills. You require a majority of the voted from members of parliament to pass a bill on to the senate.
The conservatives tried a none confidence motion several times in one week but not even the Block Quebecois wanted to support their motion so it was DOA.
So unless Trudeau pisses off the other parties enough or Pierre Poilievre learns to actually play nice with others Trudeau shall sit as the Prime Minister until the next election.
So when you look at the power structure being Libs + NDP in a coalition accounts for greater than 60% of the votes cast that coalition actually reflects what Canadians actually voted for.
The Prime Minister is chosen based on who can maintain the "confidence" of the House of Commons --- by convention, this is usually the person who can command the most seats in the House (which the Trudeau Liberals gained a plurality of).
They run a minority government with the backing of other third parties (i.e. the NDP, BQ) on a case by case basis. The NDP also had an agreement with the Liberals to support them for like two years and make sure the government didn't fall, which was recently rescinded.
Canada operates on a first-past-the-post (FPTP) system, with each riding contended as a seperate race between the parties. The Liberals tend to be very vote efficient, winning ridings in the East with very slim margins (and not neccessarily a majority) --- meanwhile, the Conservatives tend to win ridings in the West by very big margins.
So a Conservative may win a riding in Alberta with like 70% of the vote, while swing ridings in Southern Ontario are won with around 30-40% which is split usually between the NDP, Conservatives and Greens.
there are several parties that each share seats in the house, with a total of 180.
The party with the most seats chooses the prime minister.
Because there are several parties nobody needs a majority, and voting for a small party is worth it because we dont vote for the prime minister directly
Nah the indians that have been here are hardworking good people, but in the past 5ish years we literally just let ANYONE in and all the newfriends are just abusing every social system possible & most of them are lazy
Ofc this is a generalization but you get what I'm saying
I mean,folks didn't vote for this. After he got voted by in barely last time they turned around and just too the railings off international students and TFWs without every saying that was the plan
Canadians can vote, it’s just that they always choose the worst possible candidate even after seeing how he badly he fucked up the country in his last term.
No, morons in parts of BC, Southern Ontario and Montreal do, and because of our electoral if you win those you pretty much have the election on the bag.
The crisis is affordability. Immigrants aren’t driving up Canadian prices: that’s the fault of oligopolies which Conservative and Liberal governments exacerbated.
Huh? You think mass immigration is a conservative policy? Our options are Diet Republican Wannabes (conservatives), Incompetent Sellouts (Liberals), and Ultra Woke Incompetent Sellouts (NDP). You’re an idiot if you think the NDP will fix anything.
So you're saying the conservatives are against oligarchs, and the Liberals are actually conservative even though they allowed unchecked mass immigration for the last decade? You are exactly what I expect from an NDP supporter.
I am saying that Conservatives and Liberals love this mass immigration because they can get get bigger kickbacks from their oligarchs because the oligarchs are making more money.
The stance of the NDP has always been the labour unions, they were a big financial contributor to the NDP until Jack Layton died.
So yeah, traditionally, historically labour and NDP went hand in hand.
I think most screwed ones in this situation are the jeets. They pay the money for bullshit universities, can't even get decent homes to live, can't find any jobs cos the economy is screwed and take the blame for everything
It's not even like they got any work visas to stay and now are forced to leave.
It's a form of class slavery. White liberal middle class families now get to sit on their ass with their cushy WFH jobs while "Rasheed" does the shit retail and delivery jobs, yet somehow everyone else is racist for pointing this out.
bingle42@reddit
I'm Canadian and everybody I know hates his fucking guts. The people of the maritime provinces are ashamed to be associated with Trudeau and everything that goes on past New Brunswick
bingle42@reddit
Whatever Americans are fed about Canadians all being holier than thou hyper liberals comes only from the GTA and BC. The millions of normal people who live here suffer at their hands and we can barely speak out about it.
PeachKnight96@reddit
GTA and BC make almost a third of Canada's population so what do you mean by "only"?
Ssyynnxx@reddit
I'm from Toronto & i gotta apologize, this city is literal cancer
itsbigpaddy@reddit
Grew up in Central Ontario, moved to the states at 12. Would visit family when I could, most in Toronto and Peterborough. Visited this past April to see my great Aunt and the city was almost unrecognizable. Everything smelled, construction jobs halting traffic but no one working. Garbage everywhere. Everything seemed barely functional. Only worse place I’ve lived was Vancouver, but even then it seemed contained?
Mongr3l@reddit
BC almost flipped this provincial election. You can lump those Degens in the GTA in with Degens from Van and Vic. Small town BC bleeds blue
komstock@reddit
I met some Albertans and they were some of the most politically relatable people I've ever met as a Californian who would be labeled "conservative".
I feel for Saskatchewan, Alberta, and the non-coastal provinces. I'd personally be very much in favor of it if y'all ever wanted to become states instead. Same if you ever needed help shooting your way out of a dictatorship to be normal and independent Canada again.
tldr Canadians deserve to be free--lotta good leafs up there.
viral-architect@reddit
My Canadian stereotypes come from South Park. I wouldn't expect a flapping head to understand though.
larry-arthauer@reddit
I was wrong about you Canadians, maybe you aren't all fa- I mean pussies
I guess even doormats would eventually complain when they are worn out
BackseatCowwatcher@reddit
To be fair- it's less "Canadians get to vote" and more "Ontario and Quebec get to dictate the overarching government while the rest of Canada suffers"
Impressive-Morning76@reddit
as an american who’s entire family is form quebec, why are they over represented in the government? does canada not have balances against tyranny of the majority?
MrYougan@reddit
We're the second most populous province in the dominion.
So we got the second most seats.
That is all.
And since the GTA and Montréal are the most populous cities in the country, accounting when combined for near a fourth of the total canadian population, most parties focus their effort and political engagements on both citites since they have the most seats.
zrezzif@reddit
It’s as if those places got more people 😲
3DollarMeat@reddit
gee, it's almost like check-and-balance measures for country areas like the US electoral college to prevent major cities from dominating the rest of the nation exist for a reason
yomamasokafka@reddit
Explain one reason why people in cities count as less of a vote than a farmer Nebraska
3DollarMeat@reddit
Might not know this if you've never left one, but the interests and concerns of people in those cities are different to the interests and concerns of people outside of them. Very, very different. If there isn't a counterbalancing element of some form, then they basically have no representation of their issues. Issues which, if not properly addressed, don't just cause weird people to be sad like urbanite social problems. Their issues cause famines and ecological disasters when they're ignored. So they give them the means to be fairly represented.
GalaXion24@reddit
No one said their interests can't be different, the question was why someone living in a less populated region is more of a human being than the person who lives in a city.
Also, farmers are often the people who vote against dealing with ecological disasters because it would impact their short term profits, and let's not forget that they tend to largely exist off of government subsidies, which the government can't pay if the cash cows that are cities go tits up because you ignored the "urbanite social problems" that for some reason are not real.
This is why I hate rural particularists and farmer's lobbies. It's not that they want to be taken into account or make reasonable compromises, they fundamentally don't seem to value people other than them as human beings.
yomamasokafka@reddit
Ok. They have local government for that. I don’t give a fuck how different their views are when electing national level representatives.
3DollarMeat@reddit
you probably work as some analyst or consultant that basically exists for nothing but buying some guy's third yacht.
yomamasokafka@reddit
I grew up on a farm in Nebraska asshole. I work a union job i do in the field.
Also who dosent have a job where you are buying some guys yacht? Weird insult dude.
Throwawaymaybeokay@reddit
Canada is an interesting place. Half the population wants to fuck him. And the other half does too. But neither side can decide on exactly how.
-_--__--_-@reddit
I don't think anyone wants to fuck him here.
Tasty-Window@reddit
I don't understand Canadian elections nor do I care to, but it appears Trudeau only got 33.12% of the vote (2nd place), but somehow was re-elected?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Canadian_federal_election
dudewiththebling@reddit
Whoever takes the biggest slice of pie. Say you have 10 parties and 100 voters, 8 parties get 10 votes each while one gets 11 and the other 9. The one with 11 votes wins even though it was only 11% of the vote.
xTraxis@reddit
Something we learn in school is a majority election vs minority election, where the 'ruling party' (the person who has the most seats and thus the Prime Minister) has more or less than 50% of the total seats and thus has the power to make changes by themselves, or has to convince other parties in the house to hop on board with their ideas to get anything done.
lllGrapeApelll@reddit
The prime minister the leader of the party that can secure confidence of the house. That 33% represents the number of people who voted for liberal members of parliament. Currently the liberals have the most seats but not greater than 50% required to make a majority.
The conservative party is the official opposition with the second most number of seats.
Because the liberals and Justin Trudeau have a minority government they have to maintain support from other parties and often have to capitulate to their demands for that support.
All the legislation put forward by the Liberals is DOA unless they can get another party to support their bills. You require a majority of the voted from members of parliament to pass a bill on to the senate.
The conservatives tried a none confidence motion several times in one week but not even the Block Quebecois wanted to support their motion so it was DOA.
So unless Trudeau pisses off the other parties enough or Pierre Poilievre learns to actually play nice with others Trudeau shall sit as the Prime Minister until the next election.
So when you look at the power structure being Libs + NDP in a coalition accounts for greater than 60% of the votes cast that coalition actually reflects what Canadians actually voted for.
DrNateH@reddit
The Prime Minister is chosen based on who can maintain the "confidence" of the House of Commons --- by convention, this is usually the person who can command the most seats in the House (which the Trudeau Liberals gained a plurality of).
They run a minority government with the backing of other third parties (i.e. the NDP, BQ) on a case by case basis. The NDP also had an agreement with the Liberals to support them for like two years and make sure the government didn't fall, which was recently rescinded.
Canada operates on a first-past-the-post (FPTP) system, with each riding contended as a seperate race between the parties. The Liberals tend to be very vote efficient, winning ridings in the East with very slim margins (and not neccessarily a majority) --- meanwhile, the Conservatives tend to win ridings in the West by very big margins.
So a Conservative may win a riding in Alberta with like 70% of the vote, while swing ridings in Southern Ontario are won with around 30-40% which is split usually between the NDP, Conservatives and Greens.
Blisterexe@reddit
there are several parties that each share seats in the house, with a total of 180.
The party with the most seats chooses the prime minister.
Because there are several parties nobody needs a majority, and voting for a small party is worth it because we dont vote for the prime minister directly
DrNateH@reddit
There are 338 (soon to be 342) seats in the House. Not sure where you got the 180 number from.
Blisterexe@reddit
my ass apparently, sorry
buckshot95@reddit
We have multiple parties. Parties never get an actual majority of votes.
Bigu_Penisu@reddit
say what you will, but jeets are hardworking people compared to, say, immigrants from muslim countries
MrSarcRemark@reddit
No one told bro about Pakistan
Bad_boy_18@reddit
Like you can tell the difference between a jeet or a Muslim 🤣
Noah_Salafi@reddit
Jeet hands typed this comment.
EVENTHORIZON-XI@reddit
Jewish hands are typing my comment
EVENTHORIZON-XI@reddit
oh look a penny
Spanker_of_Monkeys@reddit
Well that's a bit of a contradiction, given there's 200 million Muslim jeets.
I'm all for shitting on islamic fundamentalism but calling ~20% of the world lazy is a bit regarded
ihadagoodone@reddit
It's more like 60%.
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Nah the indians that have been here are hardworking good people, but in the past 5ish years we literally just let ANYONE in and all the newfriends are just abusing every social system possible & most of them are lazy
Ofc this is a generalization but you get what I'm saying
Beneficial_Pear9705@reddit
it’s true
source: am lazy muzzo
buckshot95@reddit
Don't you like chicken vindapoo?
secondcondary@reddit
Chicken with tha poo?
nowlickmyfet@reddit
Well, duh. They got plenty of Indians. Kinda comes with the package when it comes to them.
-Neeckin-@reddit
I mean,folks didn't vote for this. After he got voted by in barely last time they turned around and just too the railings off international students and TFWs without every saying that was the plan
MrStoccato@reddit
Canadians can vote, it’s just that they always choose the worst possible candidate even after seeing how he badly he fucked up the country in his last term.
itsbigpaddy@reddit
No, morons in parts of BC, Southern Ontario and Montreal do, and because of our electoral if you win those you pretty much have the election on the bag.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Yeah, we oscillate between Conservatism and Diet Conservatism.
Vote NDP or perish, cause the writing is on the wall.
Foxhound220@reddit
No thanks, Jeet.
DokeyOakey@reddit
The crisis is affordability. Immigrants aren’t driving up Canadian prices: that’s the fault of oligopolies which Conservative and Liberal governments exacerbated.
Foxhound220@reddit
Nah, it's Jeet crisis.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Is that what Jordan Peterson and Pierre Poilievre say to you?
Stellarwiind@reddit
You will never win against this 4chan adjacent crowd here. I agree with you though.
DokeyOakey@reddit
I know, it’s screaming into a void of mongoloids. Someday they’ll look back and say “yeah, we shouldn’t have supported Billionaires like that”.
Humans will be the downfall of society; we constantly vote against our own self interests.
Mongr3l@reddit
We need a strong candidate to stand up to orange man. Pajeet is a spineless worm. Orange man won’t respect him.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Orange man is dumb and disrespectful, he’s not gonna respect L’il Milhouse, he only respected Justin because Justin cucked him.
ernestkgc@reddit
OK Dinesh
oh__boy@reddit
Huh? You think mass immigration is a conservative policy? Our options are Diet Republican Wannabes (conservatives), Incompetent Sellouts (Liberals), and Ultra Woke Incompetent Sellouts (NDP). You’re an idiot if you think the NDP will fix anything.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Mass immigration favors oligarchs: they are driving down the income we can obtain so the oligarchs and CEO suite make more money.
oh__boy@reddit
So you're saying the conservatives are against oligarchs, and the Liberals are actually conservative even though they allowed unchecked mass immigration for the last decade? You are exactly what I expect from an NDP supporter.
DokeyOakey@reddit
I am saying that Conservatives and Liberals love this mass immigration because they can get get bigger kickbacks from their oligarchs because the oligarchs are making more money.
The stance of the NDP has always been the labour unions, they were a big financial contributor to the NDP until Jack Layton died.
So yeah, traditionally, historically labour and NDP went hand in hand.
Aren’t furries typically Dippers? Uwu!
Foxhound220@reddit
No thanks, Jeet.
Fleeing-Goose@reddit
Hey, at least he got MAID up and running right?
...
Right?
Beneficial_Pear9705@reddit
bro americans just did that
Immortal_Merlin@reddit
Thats childs play, let me give you a few tips on being pro in bad choices
You see, we had to choose between putin, communists round 2, some guy who looks democratic and zhirinovsky(trump, but less rich and less sane)
NOW THAT is how you win bad choices award
sebastianinspace@reddit
hey we do that in australia too!
skull_fucker79@reddit
many such cases
daemon1targ@reddit
I think most screwed ones in this situation are the jeets. They pay the money for bullshit universities, can't even get decent homes to live, can't find any jobs cos the economy is screwed and take the blame for everything It's not even like they got any work visas to stay and now are forced to leave.
leastemployableman@reddit
It's a form of class slavery. White liberal middle class families now get to sit on their ass with their cushy WFH jobs while "Rasheed" does the shit retail and delivery jobs, yet somehow everyone else is racist for pointing this out.
Angry_Robot@reddit
You’re allowed to vote in Canada, but voting wrong is an indictable offense.
zrezzif@reddit
Damn, election isn’t secretive in Canada? Who knew
tisfo2@reddit
Everytime shit happens Prime minister in Greece shows up with 5 o'clock beard
Marciano_il_Mario@reddit
He will go away as soon as a Canadian team wins the Stanley Cup, that's what everyone agreed on. Pray the deal is not altered any further.
Dubya_The_Goat@reddit
Why would he even want to do this? why would any Canadian are they dumb.
Salaino0606@reddit
Vro is a YouTuber 💀💀💀
TronnaRaps@reddit
Screwdeau at it again
Ssyynnxx@reddit
When the political sabotage goes too well and now you gotta make it look like you're sorry