Israel Finds Large Troves of Russian Arms in Hezbollah’s Hands
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ForskinEskimo@reddit
This is the equivalent of saying "Hamas finds US manufacturing serial numbers in Israeli missile debris".
Through the chain of alliances and military support, Hazbollah is a beneficiary of Russia. Is this really a surprise to anyone?
aWhiteWildLion@reddit (OP)
Then Russia can stop pretending to be a neutral actor in the Middle-East and just admit that they have entered an alliance with Iran.
ForskinEskimo@reddit
Has it really been pretending? They're weren't shy about their air strikes and support for Bashir im Syria.
themightycatp00@reddit
You're comparing supporting countries to arming terrorist oragizations like hezbollah
That's why it's significant
capri_stylee@reddit
Most of the planet sees the IDF as equal to or worse than Hezbollah or Hamas. There is no moral high ground left for Israel.
themightycatp00@reddit
Is that way there isn't a single country who designated it a terrorist organisation? Even Iran didn't do it
Forcsome reason no one outside the niche reddits and twitter seems to agree
capri_stylee@reddit
States fear US repercussions, so they're reluctant to take measures against Israel. People don't have the same far, and Israel has cemented itself as a pariah, no one wants to engage with Israeli people, have a look on the Israel sub, daily posts about people being shunned, refused hotels, kicked from gaming communities. The world has watched the last year in horror, and no one will look at Israel the same again.
Baoooba@reddit
Right now, I wouldn't regard countries like Israel as any more moral or ethical than a terrorist organisation.
Also wasn't Israel literally founded on terrorism?
Also this doesn't actually imply Russia were directly supplying Hezbollah with weapons. Hezbollah have also been caught using US made weapons too
themightycatp00@reddit
Why did you post the comment twice? Did yuri post go to lunch without clicking "done" making igor respond to the same comment not knowing again?
Baoooba@reddit
I dont know. When I hit it the first time it said it didn't send. It happens.
Also, not sure if someone with an Israeli flag should really comment about bots considering Israel literally pioneered the entire concept! Lol
Baoooba@reddit
Right now, I wouldn't regard countries like Israel as any more moral or ethical than a terrorist organisation.
Also wasn't Israel literally founded on terrorism?
Also this doesn't actually imply Russia were directly supplying Hezbollah with weapons. Hezbollah have also been caught using US made weapons too.
ForskinEskimo@reddit
I'm commenting how this isn't news because anybody that's even slightly mindful of international relations should know this.
I'm also comparing arming a genocidal state to arming terrorists, except the later label doesn't mean much when we called Nelson Mandela and the ANC "terrorists" until 2008. But just for you;
[ "This is like saying Soviets find large catch of American supplied Stingers", who would be surprised by this?]
computer5784467@reddit
here's Russia's tass quoting Russia's "president" in one of their articles from October this year. so yes, it really has been pretending to be neutral.
ForskinEskimo@reddit
What does he mean "traditional"?
Still, I dont think that reads as them seeing thenselves as neutral, more like "unbiased", which is still so far from the truth.
Kafshak@reddit
Pretending? Russia is openly supporting Syria and Iran, and was supporting Saddam.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
Why is it surprising that Hezbollah has modern AT?
ForskinEskimo@reddit
Well considering how Hamas has been historically funded by Iran (which gets weapons from Russia) but their MANPAD presence is essentially non-existent, and their AT capabilities are also very basic, I'm surprised that Hazbollah has such solid squad-sized AT gear.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
I’d assume for a few reasons, like: Hamas is notoriously much harder to provision with advanced equipment than Hezbollah, given Israel’s blockade of Gaza; and in any event, it seems the terrain in southern Lebanon is much better suited to longer range AT systems than Gaza is, which is probably why Hamas utilizes EFP-type munitions against IDF armor there.
Check out the chapter in Stephen Biddle’s Nonstate Warfare on the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war, IMO it’s got some good analysis on how Hezbollah was already well on its way to having advanced light infantry anti-armor capabilities even back then.
Generic_Username_Pls@reddit
Russia supported Bashar in Syria who is allied with Hezbollah. Would surprise me if Russia sent weapons directly but rather it’s just Syrian weapons that Hezbollah used and has moved
TheJewPear@reddit
It wouldn’t surprise me at all, Iran, Russia, Hezbollah, all on the same side.
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
No, it shouldn't surprise you because Russian or old Soviet-made weapons are the standard across the middle east. Even among western aligned groups like the Kurds.
DanDan1993@reddit
It wouldn't surprise me if this was just a stockpile of dusty ak's that would probably all work with no jams;
Thing is there is modern equipment there, not Soviet. Pure modern era Russian weaponry.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
This also highlights why demands from protestors in the West to enact an arms embargo on Israel are hilariously juvenile & misinformed. As long as American adversaries are supplying Israeli enemies with weapons, we will also supply the Israelis with weapons.
valentc@reddit
The demands are to stop funding the genocide. They aren't fighting Iran right now except through proxy. They're killing mass amounts of civilans with American weapons.
How is funding Isreal the "mature and informed path?" Is funding the death of children enlightened and peaceful to you?
Name one thing Iran has done during this war that is even CLOSE to what Irael is doing in Gaza.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
I’m gonna start using a Hyperbole Translator™ when discussing this conflict with “anti-Zionists”. It’s just impossible to have any kind of rational conversation when every other sentence is an incendiary appeal to emotion that has nothing to do with the actual geopolitical dynamics at play.
Hyperbole Translator: “cease military support of Israel because Hamas is unable to defend its own territory but refuses to surrender”
Hyperbole Translator: “an American ally is fighting a war that has collateral damage, how can you support this?”
valentc@reddit
So genocide is just collateral damage now?
Hamas is dead. Israel is the occupier and in charge of the safety of the people and for making sure aid gets to vulnerable people. Did America just let lawlessness reign in Afghanistan? Did we deny aid to the locals and then blow it up when they grabbed it? Did they shoot red cross and UN workers?
No. We helped spread aid to the people and kept a general sense of security in the region. We didnt bomb aid workers trying to distribute aid.
Israel and zionists like you just saying, "Oh well, not my problem." When it 100% is. This is Israel's mess, so they are responsible for making sure more civilans don't die.
loggy_sci@reddit
Hamas is still fighting in Northern Gaza. They aren’t dead.
valentc@reddit
They basically are. Not everyone fighting Israel now is Hamas. There are probably plenty of civilans fighting back or defenditheir families when Isreal starts shooting them while evacutating. There are roaming gangs pf criminals because law and order doesnt exist anymore. Bodie are beinf left to rot because theres not enough people to take care od them, and anyone that does risks being bombed or shot.
Israel is responsible for security in Northern Gaza now. That doesn't mean killing civilans and denying them aid or blaming Hamas for every bad thing that happens.
DanDan1993@reddit
Jesus Christ dude
Start a GoFundMe and create this app. I'll be the first to donate
computer5784467@reddit
Israel's invasion started October 1st 2024.
Hezbollah killed 12 youngsters in a Druze village on 29 July 2024 before this invasion.
there are examples like this going back years before October 1st 2024.
so including the context of Hezbollah attacks on Israel predating October 1st 2024, can you further explain your framing of Hezbollah as simply fighting back against an Israeli invasion? what was Hezbollah fighting against in July, before the invasion happened?
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
Perhaps the Israeli settlers who have been slowly murdering their way through the WB without end since always?
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
Hold on, you’re saying that Hezbollah was “fighting settlers in the West Bank”… by launching rockets at Haifa?
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
I'm saying Hezbollah is fighting settlers in the West Bank in the same way that Israel is fighting Hamas by sniping children.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
So using your logic here… Hezbollah wasn’t fighting the IDF at all by launching rockets at cities in northern Israel, then?
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
No, I'm saying that just because two things seems unrelated and appear especially heinous out of context, they are all part of a larger ongoing conflict with ever escalating it-for-tat. Hezbollah attacked a different target than the settlers but as part of the same conflicting side, just like Israel have killed tens of thousands of people not involved in Oct 7th.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
Sure, and the United States killed tens of thousands of people not involved in Pearl Harbor or 9/11. That’s what happens in a war. Although it is bizarre that Hezbollah would intercede on behalf of Palestinian militias, given that Hezbollah is a Lebanese group and was under no obligation to attack northern Israel in response to Hamas attacking the Gaza envelope.
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
I don't know whatever formal agreements is between Hezbollah and Hamas or other parties involved, but even if there are non, they are pretty clearly in a relationship of having a mutual enemy, for similar reasons. If you look at the situation around Israel and think all of these things are happening in isolated vacuums completely unrelated to each other, then I don't know what to tell you. That just seems oblivious to me.
Hanzel_G@reddit
So what, like 90% of strikes the IDF does are against civilian targets? Or is it 80% or 50.00001%? Give me a ruff estimation...
computer5784467@reddit
firstly, Druze are literally the worst example you could present as Israeli settlers that Hezbollah needs to fight, and secondly, west bank isn't in Lebanon, you've missed up Lebanese and Palestinians. it seems to me that you care so little about the actual people in this conflict you don't even seem to know who's who.
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
It's arguably the same conflict though.
computer5784467@reddit
sure, but that's a different discussion from what you said isn't it. and anyway, if you think Iran gives a shit about Palestinians or even Iranians beyond them being weapons or convenient victims for propaganda for weak minds in the west I've got a bridge to sell you. I'm not asking you to agree that the IDF is doing the lord's work here, they aren't, but the dishonesty of framing Hezbollah as a rag tag group of freedom fighters that just want to chill out in a free and peaceful west bank is a significant driver for why we are where we are with this conflict.
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
Even if none of the parties actually give a shit about each other, they can still have the same goal and use the same justifications.
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
The other reason is that for every mean look Israel gets, they create thousands more of new "terrorists" or "freedom fighters" or whatever by purposely taking it out on the civilian population of whomever.
themightycatp00@reddit
If we aren't fighting Iran we are IRGC officers are found at every command bunker Israel destroys?
Israel bought these weapons these are Israeli weapons, we aren't Ukraine.
Hezbollah killed 12 arab Israeli children before a Israeli boot single boot touched Lebanese ground
Not when they fired the first shots, you can't claim self defence when you threw the first punch.
Nasrallah, may his soul eternally burn in the darkest pits of hell, was very vocal about what he would do given the opportunity
valentc@reddit
God, it's insane 12 Israeli children is too much, but destroying multiple city blocks killing hundreds of civilians to get one guy isn't. The hypocrisy is disgusting.
They fired on Sheeba Farms. That isn't considered Israeli territory by most of the world. Illegal settlers don't get sympathy.
Ok, but what did he do? The worst I can find is the 2006 kidnapping of soldiers leading to the 2006 Lebanon war.
Actions speak louder than words. If words can be used as grounds for terrorism, than Israel is also a terrorist state, right?
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
Unless your reason is simply the rule of law.
Sure, it's not always realistic to expect the government to follow the law.
But we probably should want them to.
Own_Thing_4364@reddit
What "law" is that?
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
22 USC 2378-1: Prohibition on assistance to countries that restrict United States humanitarian assistance
bermanji@reddit
Friendly reminder that the Palestinians are still holding 4 Americans hostage and blatantly executed another American hostage a few months ago.
Legate_Invictus@reddit
Yeah, because Biden is a spineless cuck who won't negotiate with Hamas directly and insists on tying American lives to Israeli security interests.
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
Don't think that's really relevant here. The act of war they did is illegal activity enough. The fact that one party is criminal does not make the other party not criminal.
bermanji@reddit
Muh USS Liberty moment
Own_Thing_4364@reddit
(b)Exception Assistance may be furnished without regard to the restriction in subsection (a) if the President determines that to do so is in the national security interest of the United States.
(c)Notice Prior to making any determination under subsection (b), the President shall notify the Committee on International Relations, the Committee on Foreign Relations, and the Committees on Appropriations of the Senate and House of Representatives of his intention to make such a determination, the effective date of the determination, and the reasons for making the determination.
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
Tbh, you got me. Didn't previously know about subsection b.
I don't think the Biden administration has formally performed the notice under subsection c. But that's not a very strong charge.
dgradius@reddit
Do you obey speed limits every time you drive?
UruquianLilac@reddit
Are people acting equally as surprised that the IDF has been found to have stockpiles of modern American armaments?
themightycatp00@reddit
What do you mean? These sells are litterally reported on the media
UruquianLilac@reddit
Oh, I see, that's the issue here. You needed to see the receipts and then everything would have been just fine.
Dmanrock@reddit
Well one side is America, the other side is Russia. Just making it clear what side Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran are on. So that the rest of the world can ally together and fight back to save Ukraine and Israel.
UruquianLilac@reddit
I'm Lebanese. I don't support Hizbollah. But I definitely don't support Israel. And I will implicitly accept help from anyone to defend my country from Israeli aggression. Even if it's Iran and Russia. On the other hand, I support Ukraine in their fight against Russian aggression, and I despise Russia for invading them.
Simple opinions in a complex world are for simple minds. I don't see good guys and bad guys. They're all bad in one way or another. The common factor for me is seeing Israel as the invasive aggressor in Lebanon and Russia as the invasive aggressor in Ukraine and supporting people defending their land by any means necessary even if they're not savoury methods. I'm not allied to an axis of Marvel style super heroes or super villains. I'm allied to what I see as a just cause. And that leads to contradictory positions. But that's inevitable if you want a nuanced opinion based on your values and not blind adherence to a notion of who the bad people are.
Dmanrock@reddit
Contradictory positions are for naive people who believe everything can be achieved without compromise. People who reject reality and substitute it with their own.
Mussolini wasn't as bad as Hitler, nor was Japan. But they all gotta go for the world to be a better place. While I would say the same applies here, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran are pure evil entities that should be purged from modern society. I'm sure that would be a great help to your people of Lebanon, no longer needing to be a puppet to Islamic terrorist organizations and dance to their tunes.
UruquianLilac@reddit
Like I said, I live in the real world, not the Marvel universe.
Dmanrock@reddit
Well, your opinion matters not, they're being purged as we talk.
UruquianLilac@reddit
You are seeing yourself deeply into the fantasy world now.
Dmanrock@reddit
The one that is delusional to his own stance calling others fantasy now? Why don't you face reality buddy
themightycatp00@reddit
I was replying to this comment you made
I can will apply the "Keep It Simple, Stupid" method since it's clearly needed here:
Why would people be supprised the IDF has american weapons when it's publicly known the IDF has american weapons? Does that skibidi with your rizz?
DanDan1993@reddit
..... What is your point?
UruquianLilac@reddit
If America gives its allies weapons, so does Russia. What's the news here?
bermanji@reddit
Then why does the Lebanese military use mostly American weaponry?
UruquianLilac@reddit
Hizbollah is Russia's ally, not Lebanon.
bermanji@reddit
All of Hezbollah's armaments are in direct contravention of Lebanon's 2008 law banning armed militias *and* UNSC Res 1701, OTOH the LAF's armaments are legally purchased by the Lebanese government.
UruquianLilac@reddit
Hope you apply the same rigour to the dozens of UN resolutions Israel doesn't comply with.
DanDan1993@reddit
Are Lebanon and Russia allies of any sort?
Why does Russia sell weapons to a terrorist organization and not through the state if they are allies?
What is the purpose of the sale of such weaponry? Is Russia bypassing sanctions using this to both fund their war and to divert attention from Ukraine?
UruquianLilac@reddit
Yup, just what I thought. In your worldview there are good guys and bad guys, and you think you are the good guys.
DanDan1993@reddit
....
So no answer to the questions?
Are Lebanon and Russia allies? If so why is Hezbollah getting the weapons but the army doesn't? If not... Why are there Russian weapons in southern Lebanon or Lebanon at all?
bermanji@reddit
I made a comment about this previously -- some of the weapons that were captured (specifically an export-only variant of the Kornet-M) were only put into service as recently as 2018. These weapons were 100% manufactured and exported by the Russian Federation, they are not old Soviet stocks.
JMoc1@reddit
So a single weapon system makes every single weapon in Hezbollah’s arsenal from 2018?
bermanji@reddit
Try a good faith argument next time and you'll get a real response.
JMoc1@reddit
I’m trying to understand your argument as you say “some.”
Unfortunately, this leads to a very interesting effect. Does the presence of “some” advanced Russian weapons mean that Hezbollah is directly funded by Russia?
bermanji@reddit
My argument was crystal clear, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension and come back when you're ready.
JMoc1@reddit
No, your argument leaves an opening to claim that the Kurdish forces, like the YPG, are Russian backed because they use somewhat modern Eastern equipment.
This is what’s called a logical fallacy. Which you are doing by basing the age of a single weapon system to apply it to the entire inventory of Hezbollah without further confirmation.
bermanji@reddit
I gave an example of a specific weapon system, nowhere did I state that was the only one nor did I state that Russia is Hezbollah's sole weapons supplier (they aren't).
What are you trying to prove?
JMoc1@reddit
You have an example of one weapon system. Are we to believe that all 60-80% of these “Russian weapons” are all based on recent transactions because of the age of one weapon system that could have easily been smuggled into the country?
If not, then what was the point of your comment?
bermanji@reddit
It's not "one weapon system", I made that clear above, multiple times.
You're either functionally retarded or a troll, either way I have better things to do.
themightycatp00@reddit
So you're saying that the USSR had a policy of arming arab nations with soviet made weapons? If so I'll agree and add that the prevalence of post soviet made weapons, like the kornet for example, showes the policy continues
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
The USSR had a policy of selling arms. The USA has a policy of selling arms.
Individuals in both the former USSR and the USA sell plenty of arms illicitly.
Plenty of people in the Middle East and elsewhere exchange arms with each other where neither party is the original manufacturer or has contact with the original manufacturer.
Do the AR15 style weapons owned by Central and South American criminals and rebel groups provide evidence of a continuing US policy of arming those groups? Or, perhaps, is it just a consequence of proximity and regular old market behavior?
You may have the opinion that Russia is supporting Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc. That opinion may well be true, and there's probably strong evidence to support that. However, just a pile of weapons manufactured in Russia is not strong evidence.
themightycatp00@reddit
So how come hezbollah has post soviet weapons like the kornet?
Proof?
If 70% of hezbollah's arsenal is post soviet russian made weapons when it's too much to just be consequences
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
You don't think people privately sell arms to each other? If you really need proof, here are some links: https://www.atf.gov/news/press-releases/atf-releases-comprehensive-firearms-trafficking-report https://www.thetrace.org/2024/03/us-mexico-gun-trafficking-border-cbp/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/world/asia/us-weapons-afghanistan.html
It's hilarious to me that you're so committed to the weakest evidence that you say people don't exchange goods with each other outside, officially sanctioned state actions. Like I said, there's plenty of good evidence of Russian meddling out there. I don't know why you insist on making a fool over yourself when the statement is just "hey, pick your battles, this one is relatively easy to dismiss"
bermanji@reddit
There is a *massive* difference between a few crates of AKs disappearing and literal stacks of drones or ATGM systems that cost $50k/shot. Advanced systems like MANPADS and ATGMs are not just "goods that one exchange with eachother outside sanctioned state actions" they are highly controlled items that don't just fall off the back of a truck one day. A single Strela can take down an airliner, that's not even in the same *realm* as a standard firearm.
NonAwesomeDude@reddit
Efraim Diveroli and David Packouz have something to say about that.
TheJewPear@reddit
This wasn’t a random assortment of old weapons, but apparently a huge stockpile of modern armaments.
Either way, like I said, Russia-Iran-Assad-Hezbollah are 100% same side by now. I don’t think it really matters much if Russia provided weapons directly, or if Assad gave those weapons to Hezbollah.
sBucks24@reddit
Wanna quantify this?
Nickblove@reddit
Russia also met with Hama leadership days before October 7th to so it’s not unlikely that they made a “deal” to provide arms(though it’s just a assumption with no proof on my part)
Generic_Username_Pls@reddit
Hamas is still a political party at the end of the day, their interests align with Hezbollah as well so it’s not the most coincidental meeting I’d imagine
aWhiteWildLion@reddit (OP)
It's not surprising to find Russian weapons in Hezbollah warehouses, what is surprising is the quantity and quality of the armaments and weapons found. "Approximately 60% to 70% of the weapons seized in the initial days of Israel’s invasion were Russian".
JMoc1@reddit
60% to 70% could mean anything, however.
Are we talking of Russian origin or delivered directly from the Russians? Because there is a difference between getting an RPG-7 from 1989 from USSR surplus to getting a Kormat-M launcher directly from the Russian Federation.
aWhiteWildLion@reddit (OP)
The anti tank weapons captured in the first month of the Israeli ground offensive more than what an Indian army infantry division would have.
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2024/11/israels-war-part-7-war-against-hezbollah.html
JMoc1@reddit
Reports from the IDF, which conflate both ATGMs and RPG warheads which include older RPG-7s, RPG-26s, newer RPG-29s, and Kornat-EMs.
This is unreliable information from an unreliable narrator, even if we take the IDF at their word.
themightycatp00@reddit
That not how math works
They go into it in the article
sBucks24@reddit
They actually don't... It's just vague mentioning of "some" weapons they've found. And that it was "more than military analysts thought they would".... These are meaningless statements, none of which have been backed up with provided evidence.
Personally, idk why anyone would ever take Isreal at their word when it comes to "finding" things post them invading...
fajadada@reddit
They said some weapons were as new as 2020
JMoc1@reddit
Some is not quantifiable, unfortunately. That could mean anything.
fajadada@reddit
Really? Didn’t know that!😱
AmericanNewt8@reddit
Yeah, Syria has been supplying Hezbollah with Russian weapons for decades at this point; as has Iran. I doubt Russia sees the need to get directly involved, especially since their interests really run counter to Hezbollah's at the end of the day (they'd like to lock Iran out of Syria, but that's a lower priority than the whole Ukraine business).
themightycatp00@reddit
it's russia supplying them directly
Just a few weeks ago there were reports the houthis are using satellite intelligence to target ships in the red sea and that russia is planning to sell them anti ship missiles
Right before and directly after 7/10 all of hamas' leadership met with putin in moscow
If russia offers support to 2 major Iranian proxies in the regoin why not a third? Especially considering the old USSR policies in the middle east
AniTaneen@reddit
Would surprise if they did given how much they need them right now.
Would surprise me if they work. They probably are from the 70s and 80s, the last time Russia actually needed their stuff to work.
slickweasel333@reddit
Read the article. They found so many Kornets, Russian antitank missiles manufactured post-2020, that the IDF is considering standing up a whole Kornet unit with all the missiles they found.
postdiluvium@reddit
Oh this is interesting. The Republicans in America want to cut Ukraine off and allow Russia to take more land. But they also want Israel to fight against Russia's proxies in the middle east. With trump coming into office, I wonder how this will play out for Israel. Who will trump side with? Israel or Russia?
AmusingMusing7@reddit
Yeah, strange bedfellows and conflicting alliances or sympathies, seem to be the name of the game lately.
datNomad@reddit
Groups of radical Muslim fanatics are proxies of Orthodox Christian Russia? Groups that are directly subjugated to Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps are Russian proxies? Do you have any reliable source with evidence for such a claim?
postdiluvium@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Russia_relations#:~:text=Iran%20and%20Russia%20are%20strategic,arms%20and%20weaponry%20to%20Iran.
Here is the wiki to explain the alliance between Russia and Iran.
datNomad@reddit
How does this "alliance" makes Iranian proxy to become Russian? Liechtenstein is in the same military alliance as the US. Does it make American proxie, for example, South Korea, South Vietnam, etc. to become proxie of Liechtenstein? I see some sort of logic fallacy in this statement.
postdiluvium@reddit
Calm down
RollinThundaga@reddit
One step closer to the Finno-Korean hyperwar.
Level-Technician-183@reddit
I remember reading the news were weapon bought by the US were found in ISIS hands 2 months after exporting them.
The article is behind a paywall and more details are needed. 4 years is quite the large time to get many weapons smuggled or bought by someone else later.
Old_Wallaby_7461@reddit
It's the same path both ways.
Russia (or the US) -> Syria (or the FSA) -> someone who has money and wants weapons.
Level-Technician-183@reddit
Yep. Or direct supply for both cases. Both want unstable middle east. But russia and hezbollah case has way longer time of supply than the US and ISIS case.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
Are you suggesting that the Russian materiel mentioned in the article were destined for someone other than Hezbollah, but Hezbollah indicted the shipment and/or was smuggled them by a middle man?
Level-Technician-183@reddit
Ir definitely an option. A proper investigation and traking is needed for this in order to know hoe it got sourced.
RedTulkas@reddit
It could be direct supplies from russia
But it might as well be supply that was skimmed of the top by the russian military and feeding the pockets of some oligarch
And if the war in ukraine was any indication the latter happened far mor often than putin wants you to believe
deeptut@reddit
Some of the weapons, which include modern Kornet antitank missiles manufactured as recently as 2020, were sent to southern Lebanon in recent years from Russian stockpiles in neighboring Syria, according to Syrian security officials and an Arab official.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED.
Well, not that shocked.
EternalMayhem01@reddit
Russia was supporting Hezbollah operations in Syria. Not surprising they have so much Russian arms. After the Russians their next big supplier would be the Iraninans no doubt.
JohnAtticus@reddit
One of the arguments you hear about why it wouldn't matter if the US put stipulations on the use of American weapons (similar to those put on Ukraine) is that Israel would ignore those stupilations and just get weapons from other sources like Russia.
This news illustrates another reason why that idea is ridiculous.
Even if Russia could spare weapons at some point in the future, Israel would be buying them from a staunch ally of Iran that indirectly sells arms to Hezbollah by using the Assad government in Syria as an intermediary.
Chance-Plantain8314@reddit
Hezbollah Finds Large Troves of Russian Arms in Israel's Hands
How is this news to anyone?
This 150 character limit is a hilarious waste of time. This 150 character limit is a hilarious waste of time This 150 character limit is a hilarious waste of time
lanzkron@reddit
Perhaps you could have used some of those 150 characters to make your comment clearer because I have no idea what you're trying to convey.
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