What remains of the Landing Gear section of a B-52D tail number 56-0605 "Cobalt 2" in a small lake in Hanoi.

That'll get ya one good swing in the chute and probably a broken leg or two. But better than the alternative. Great article about a BUFF flying a low-level route, hit a mesa, and then cartwheeled in the air before crashing..the crew actually ejected horizontally

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-death-spiral-of-swoon-52-the-story-of-the-b-52-bomber-that-crashed-into-hunts-mesa-during-a-low-level-training-sortie/

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QuitBeingAbigOlCunt@reddit

What is a Mesa?

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gbettencourt@reddit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa

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Lethal_Hobo@reddit

Wow that site is super cool, nice find

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twelveparsnips@reddit

It has a very low success rate. You can eject in every US bomber.

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Hot_Net_4845@reddit

Yep! There are 4 ejection seats and hatches in the ceiling they eject from, and 2 in the lower deck with hatches in the floor

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Cargoflyer@reddit

I would prefer to ride the bomb down

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Live-Motor-4000@reddit

Blimey, it’s Dr. Strangelove himself

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PingCarGaming@reddit

Ironic, the mig21 also got downed

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Live-Motor-4000@reddit

Man, I love it when someone posts something and says “check out this cool pic” and then someone replies with all the details and adds to it

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HellHeight@reddit

(Alt Acc rn) but iirc 3/4 of those POWs are still alive

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Recoil42@reddit

I've been here. It's a cool place to visit, but it's pretty funny that it's in such a quiet neighbourhood. There are a couple cafes in front of it with names like "B-52 Cafe" and that's about the extent of it. Otherwise locals are just chilling, having noodles in front of the landing gear, hanging their laundry and... that's it. Don't expect too much, but it's a fun little walk from the Ho Chi Minh Museum (not worth visiting) and the Old Quarter.

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VMaxF1@reddit

I just did this last week - you must've taken a different route than me! I found myself walking down tiny enclosed laneways that would've been fascinating and picturesque, if not for the constant hooting and revving of endless parades of scooters going in each direction and almost clipping every building, parked scooter or pedestrian they passed.

(no judgement on them, just saying I found it the opposite of fun!)

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HellHeight@reddit

Why isn’t the Ho Chi Minh museum worth visiting?

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rocketshipkiwi@reddit

I went to the Ho Chi Minh museum and it was great. The propagada was hilarious, I really enjoyed it. Then again, I’m not American so maybe that makes a difference.

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dinkleberrysurprise@reddit

The English placards at the Korean War museum in Dandong, China are also downright hilarious

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Recoil42@reddit

It's been a few years, so my full recollection is hazy, but I remember I mostly found it a bit boring. It's one of those museums dedicated to one person so it goes into the full details of, for instance, his upbringing which might be interesting to die-hard HCM enthusiasts (YMMV) but I didn't get much value I couldn't have gotten by skimming through his Wikipedia article.

As I recall, most the exhibits were in Vietnamese with only sparse English translations too — which is totally okay, it's a Vietnamese museum after all — but all of that just means you aren't getting the full value of what might be interesting to you as an English reader/speaker.

There are just better museums and historical sites in Vietnam.

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njsullyalex@reddit

This has got to be a bit surreal visiting if you're an American.

Like, we had a war with Vietnam. We lost. And now we've reconciled enough that Americans can go visit sites like these in Vietnam completely peacefully.

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Mal-De-Terre@reddit

There's also a museum of captured hardware which features an obelisk made of downed aircraft parts not too far away. That one is sobering.

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PeckerNash@reddit

Dang. You’re the first American I’ve encountered who admits the US lost Vietnam. No joke.

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StolenSkittles@reddit

Well, then you haven't encountered very many, because I've never met somebody who thinks we won.

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Coreysurfer@reddit

Exactly..most educated Americans would say it was a brutal war, conflict what ever word you want to put there and we did NOT win, some may say we didn’t lose but they would be wrong, America lost allot of lives as did Vietnam for what many have NO idea and that is still the question i suppose on some level

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remuspilot@reddit

Not only that but we cooperate them, do exchange officers in the military, etc. It's a past life.

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ConstableBlimeyChips@reddit

The Vietnamese might have a past grudge against the US and what they did in the 60's and 70's. But it doesn't hold a candle to their dislike of the Chinese. If the price of opposing Chinese supremacy in the region is to become friendly with the Americans, they are (and have been) more than willing to do so.

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summersa74@reddit

Fighting the French was personal, fighting the Americans was business, but fighting the Chinese is tradition.

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solocmv@reddit

My grandfather went to Dresden three time and Cologne a couple of times. I went to both and even worked for BMW.

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njsullyalex@reddit

I think the difference is Germany’s government today is completely different than the one in power during WWII. The Nazi government was gutted and destroyed.

Vietnam’s government today is the same one the U.S. fought against in the Vietnam War. What’s changed is our relationship with the nation.

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DobIsKing@reddit

What do you mean "we lost" lol?

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Isgrimnur@reddit

Three years later...

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Jaydee888@reddit

If you’re ever in Hanoi go to the war/military museum, you will learn that the American Vietnamese war was just one in a long history of brutal conflicts/ occupations that country has endured.

I have travelled ALOT and found the Vietnamese to be very welcoming of tourists.

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FastPatience1595@reddit

Never, ever mess with the Vietnamese. They defeated a) the french in 1954 b) the USA in 1973 and (for good measure) the chinese in 1979.

Only afghans come close. Never pick a fight with them either.

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The_Crite_Hunter@reddit

I highly recommend the book "The 11 Days of Christmas" about B-52 LB2 raids during Vietnam. here

https://youtu.be/60ihI7VU2OY?si=R-eyDeYm38Crb4nyhttps://youtu.be/60ihI7VU2OY?si=R-eyDeYm38Crb4ny

https://youtu.be/60ihI7VU2OY?si=R-eyDeYm38Crb4ny

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