If this doesn't wake people up, nothing will!!! Then again, the US sleepwalked into an election where we put a bought and paid for tool of the fossil fuel industry in the presidency AGAIN! And I'm not saying Biden was so great, either. But at least he acknowledged climate change as real and wasn't planning to get rid of NOAA or anything
The new administration's proposed Secretary of Energy is an oil exec who categorically denies climate change and energy transition. Expect nothing in the right direction to happen for the next 4 years if he's appointed
Doesn't just deny it. He says some of the most insane things I have ever heard about it, as seen in this linked in videovideo We are cooked, I cannot believe how cooked we are.
"Calling carbon dioxide "pollution" would be like calling water or oxygen, the other two necessary ingredients for life."
He also says "there is no such thing as clean or dirty energy. All energy sources have an impact, both positive and negative."
Yes, because when we say "clean", we definitely mean "completely good with no downsides" as opposed to "significantly safer and less polluting than other sources" /s
It's brain rot and corruption to the nth degree. I cannot understand how so much of American citizens are this far gone to agree with this person. To agree with anything the trump campaign and appointees say. It's been devestating to my mental health as a 25y/o to come to terms with how archaic and stupid the majority of humanity is. Including people I love and care about in my life. I just want this to end already and I don't mean that in a suicidal ideation way, more so just that the slow burn is killing me. I have no faith we will fix this anymore so the prolonged inevitable just hurts.
Each individual always was going to die anyway. Nothing has changed.
We are reaching a point tech logically where that might not be true within our lifetimes. Which makes it suck even more that humanity is going to collapse.
How do you think us millenials feel that watched an already failing system corrupted by the rich become dumber and more corrupt every cycle. Every candidate worse than their respective predecessors from their party.
There is no denying it, we are in a plutocracy, and soon an autocratic one.
We can take comfort knowing the rich will eat each other soon enough as the supreme leaders' party cannibalizes the rich under pretexts after the country's credit card maxes out, something that will happen sooner after creditors understand just how untrustworthy and corrupt the leaders are.
It's the death throes of capitalism. It's not working well for the majority of us. You can see similar trends in most western nations. The establishment neoliberals in the center politically keep losing.
If there isn't any genuine left wing populism to vote for lot's of people will not vote for the status quo and a good chunk of the rest will vote for the right wing reactionary populism to see if that fixes the underlying problems. It won't.
It will just make things worse. But people are desperate for change. They have been since the great recession. The left wing resurgence just got crushed or coopted by corporate interests before it could actually change things.
I know more than a few non-insane MAGAts and am related to some of them. They ALL think that T was just saying crap that his "base" wanted to hear - not realizing that THEY are his base! These people don't believe that most of what T said during the campaign will happen because he a) was just "joking" or b) was exaggerating or c) won't be allowed to do them because "Congress".
Most of the ones I know are also racist (and so, anti-immigrant) and homo- and transphobic, so those messages played well to them and allowed them to ignore any messaging that they didn't agree with. The older ones are quite fearful about crime - the point that they'll believe any bullshit that they come across. For example, one doesn't ever ride the bus in a major city because "I'll be murdered!" Yet, no one has ever been murdered on a bus in that city. Just racism in another form, I think.
Tl:Dr - T won because his racist, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ+ imaging played into the fears of millions of white Americans (especially older ones). These voters ignored or didn't believe the foghorn loud warnings that T will become the first American dictator and that his administration will be a fascist dystopian.
The politics in this sub is absolutely mind-numbing.
The rapid decay of the natural Earth is not a political issue, it's a human issue. Just because one party is slightly more in denial about it doesn't make your fingerpointing any more profound or helpful. That's what's gotten us into this mess and will continue digging the hole.
The Democrats didn't appoint oil and gas execs and climate change deniers to major government roles though did they? (honestly asking as a non-American who is watching US politics turn to shit in real-time)
I think you can argue both sides have major problems, but as we enter the years of famine and increasing natural disasters, and migrations the like of which are almost unfathomable. I personally would much rather have someone like Biden or Harris when we face catastrophe. Leaders who might actually react in a better way and might soften the landing somewhat.
Thanks for having reason. I do think I agree for the most part.
But if we're being honest, we need someone like Bernie who would be more likely to completely overhaul rather than apply band-aids.
I was hopeful that the new President would drain the proverbial swamp, but he clearly hasn't. Why though?
I cannot emphasize this enough: the left demonizes his every move. The right seems to have his back for the most part, so he naturally kisses their asses to return the favor. It's this 2 party chicken crap that I'm sick of.
When people play the Dems vs GOP game, no one wins. That's why I'm sick of all the political bs on this sub. I'd go to the politics sub if if wanted to see whining about the election.
So useful when people drive to work to sit in offices all day doing the same work they could’ve done at home, sitting next to their teammates that are in the same Zoom/Teams calls since there are a couple people that are still remote.
It’s all so pointless. I used to have hope but no longer.
I have to work in the office 2 days per work to "cooperate with my team". Except that there isn't enough space where they sit, so I'm on a different floor and only see them at lunch (if that). Some weeks I speak less than 10 minutes with them, apart from participation in mandatory meetings.
(I'm in Asia, where bosses get antsy if they can't literally see over your shoulder.)
Can't. My parents yell all sorts of shit at me about "being lazy" and trying to "undermine or fight them" and I'm 18 but since I live with them they can blackmail me into doing most anything they want anyway.
People fail to realize-this is why Putin invaded Ukraine. Because it's the world's bread basket. Then he proceeded to bomb the h*** out of it, to make it harder for wheat to grow. Good job, greedy disgusting humans.
Pffft. The largest land based oil and natural gas reserves discovered since the Saudi oil fields was found under… drum roll please… Eastern Ukraine… in… nutha one please… 2014.
Commodities fixing and futures trading is just a side racket. Famines make food profits soar; grow less, charge more! Really cuts down on production and distribution costs, ya know? /s
It's also the top exporter for semiconductor grade neon. About 70% of global production. It's incredibly difficult to purge lithography tools properly without it.
But removing supply from EU impacts supply elsewhere.
Grain prices have been through the roof in AU since the war began and we're 15,000km detached from them. It's difficult to be more distant from the Ukraine and not be in an ocean.
Right. Anywhere. That is, anywhere in the world. So they are in fact feeding the world. Of course there are some other major 'breadbaskets of the world,' but Ukraine has been a major one
The UK is one of the only major net importers of food in Europe and we get most of our wheat from Canada. It's a bread basket in Europe but I don't believe most their exports are to Africa.
Actually a lot of Ukraine's food exports go to Africa and less developed nations, although this has obviously decreased since the full-scale invasion and destruction of sea routes in 2022
Parking missiles in Ukraine after they were to join NATO is what sparked this. Though, with all the other missiles aimed toward Russia, why it would make a difference, I've never heard.
I think my short term hopium is we will have a bad year in the US then make adjustments next season away from exports. That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a shitty year but I can see a pivot happening if we aren’t collapsed. The world seems to adjusted around losing ukraines output? I think the us MIGHT get like 5 more years after the global famines start.
We just elected the fascist oligarch party and gave them the entirety of government, whether or not they choose to export our food supply will be up to their own profit motives and whims unfortuantely.
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I live in upstate, near the PA border.
I moved here 2 years ago from the west coast. In just two years, I have seen a vast change in the weather. The first year we moved here we kept being told it was a mild year for snow, tho there was some snow. Last year the snow barely stuck and melted away very fast. This year it is almost Thanksgiving and it's still in the fifties and barely any rain let alone any other moisture.
I have been telling everyone who will listen since I moved here that this is an issue. That snow packs in places that traditionally get a lot of snow over a season are so important both for us, and the areas below us. That it's going to dry up fast and the multitude of rivers around here can shrink and dissipate quicker than you think. That this area is absolutely not prepared for west coast fire weather-but that WILL happen. I have been waved off, laughed at, called a lunatic, and told that the years of living under orange skies, falling ash, and choking on the taste of smoke trapped within a heat dome out west have addled my brain and it could NEVER happen here because it is New York. It's starting here, and when it gets bad it's going to get really bad, because so many people refuse to look at what is happening.
Don't forget how this is happening in November a week before Thanksgiving. Summer fires will be worse, but brush fires near Christmas will be the mental blow for alot of people.
You know there are people in this upcoming administration who will be internally advocating for a limited nuclear war to help the environmental and climate situation.
Hell, I think we should have a great big one so that we can erase industrial society before we erase all life on earth as a consequence of that same industrial society.
SS: Roughly a year from the sky turning orange spawning Blade Runner images of Times Square, now Manhattan itself is on fire. We’re seeing climate breakdown come home to roost in the core of capitalism.
We had one in Brooklyn too last week. Seems like possibly a cigarette or small fire that got out of co tell in prospect park. Took an overnight fire crew to put it out. This is fine…
I'm surprised Central Park hasn't seen one at this point. Fingers crossed it rains before it does. I've heard this is a combination of climate change induced drought conditions and major cuts to the parks department which means a ton of understory growth and a lot of kindling.
we are supposed to get a ton of rain Wed. night through Thursday here, but I think it's more imporant upstate gets it for the reservoirs so hopefully they get hit too.
We had a pretty big one near us in metro Boston a couple of days ago. They had to send tanker trucks with water because our ponds are almost dry. Homes were evacuated and it took fire departments from many towns to finally put it out.
That hasn't happened in my life time that I'm aware of and I was born in the 1960's.
this isnt exactly the heart of global capitalism altho i can see why someone not from nyc might think so. inwood, washington heights and the bx are some of the poorest, most heavily polluted areas in the five boroughs thanks in no small part to its proximity to the i95.
inwood is also literally on the opposite end of the island of manhattan fron wall street and the stock exchange. its like 10 or 1q miles away.
fun fact tho, inwood hill park is the last remaining natural forest and natural salt marsh in manhattan. it sits on a fairly quiet fault line and there are old native american caves in the hills oyster middens that are centuries old, perhaps older than henry hudson
Wildfires are wildfires because they’re out of control, not because they’re “in the wild”. They also don’t start spontaneously. Even the ones in the wild are started by cigarettes, fireworks, campfires, gender reveals, etc.
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pandorafetish@reddit
If this doesn't wake people up, nothing will!!! Then again, the US sleepwalked into an election where we put a bought and paid for tool of the fossil fuel industry in the presidency AGAIN! And I'm not saying Biden was so great, either. But at least he acknowledged climate change as real and wasn't planning to get rid of NOAA or anything
DecisionAvoidant@reddit
The new administration's proposed Secretary of Energy is an oil exec who categorically denies climate change and energy transition. Expect nothing in the right direction to happen for the next 4 years if he's appointed
Extension_Grocery_44@reddit
Doesn't just deny it. He says some of the most insane things I have ever heard about it, as seen in this linked in videovideo We are cooked, I cannot believe how cooked we are.
DecisionAvoidant@reddit
"Calling carbon dioxide "pollution" would be like calling water or oxygen, the other two necessary ingredients for life."
He also says "there is no such thing as clean or dirty energy. All energy sources have an impact, both positive and negative."
Yes, because when we say "clean", we definitely mean "completely good with no downsides" as opposed to "significantly safer and less polluting than other sources" /s
Extension_Grocery_44@reddit
It's brain rot and corruption to the nth degree. I cannot understand how so much of American citizens are this far gone to agree with this person. To agree with anything the trump campaign and appointees say. It's been devestating to my mental health as a 25y/o to come to terms with how archaic and stupid the majority of humanity is. Including people I love and care about in my life. I just want this to end already and I don't mean that in a suicidal ideation way, more so just that the slow burn is killing me. I have no faith we will fix this anymore so the prolonged inevitable just hurts.
m00z9@reddit
Each individual always was going to die anyway. Nothing has changed.
Get into buddhism and philosophy. Appreciate your next breath.
flutterguy123@reddit
We are reaching a point tech logically where that might not be true within our lifetimes. Which makes it suck even more that humanity is going to collapse.
Fornicate_Yo_Mama@reddit
That’s not Buddhism, that’s Nihilism.
hectorxander@reddit
How do you think us millenials feel that watched an already failing system corrupted by the rich become dumber and more corrupt every cycle. Every candidate worse than their respective predecessors from their party.
There is no denying it, we are in a plutocracy, and soon an autocratic one.
We can take comfort knowing the rich will eat each other soon enough as the supreme leaders' party cannibalizes the rich under pretexts after the country's credit card maxes out, something that will happen sooner after creditors understand just how untrustworthy and corrupt the leaders are.
Tearakan@reddit
It's the death throes of capitalism. It's not working well for the majority of us. You can see similar trends in most western nations. The establishment neoliberals in the center politically keep losing.
If there isn't any genuine left wing populism to vote for lot's of people will not vote for the status quo and a good chunk of the rest will vote for the right wing reactionary populism to see if that fixes the underlying problems. It won't.
It will just make things worse. But people are desperate for change. They have been since the great recession. The left wing resurgence just got crushed or coopted by corporate interests before it could actually change things.
AlwaysPissedOff59@reddit
I know more than a few non-insane MAGAts and am related to some of them. They ALL think that T was just saying crap that his "base" wanted to hear - not realizing that THEY are his base! These people don't believe that most of what T said during the campaign will happen because he a) was just "joking" or b) was exaggerating or c) won't be allowed to do them because "Congress".
Most of the ones I know are also racist (and so, anti-immigrant) and homo- and transphobic, so those messages played well to them and allowed them to ignore any messaging that they didn't agree with. The older ones are quite fearful about crime - the point that they'll believe any bullshit that they come across. For example, one doesn't ever ride the bus in a major city because "I'll be murdered!" Yet, no one has ever been murdered on a bus in that city. Just racism in another form, I think.
Tl:Dr - T won because his racist, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ+ imaging played into the fears of millions of white Americans (especially older ones). These voters ignored or didn't believe the foghorn loud warnings that T will become the first American dictator and that his administration will be a fascist dystopian.
mediocre_mitten@reddit
WhizCheeser@reddit
Lol
livinguse@reddit
And the EPA head wants us to be 'Energy dominant'
PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES@reddit
Probably going to get hate for this but:
The politics in this sub is absolutely mind-numbing.
The rapid decay of the natural Earth is not a political issue, it's a human issue. Just because one party is slightly more in denial about it doesn't make your fingerpointing any more profound or helpful. That's what's gotten us into this mess and will continue digging the hole.
Fern_Pearl@reddit
I’d like to see your definition of ‘slightly’.
PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES@reddit
Look at the consumption/emissions/expenditure/etc of the average Republican in the US, and compare it to that of an average Democrat in the US.
You'd be surprised how close they truly are.
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
The Democrats didn't appoint oil and gas execs and climate change deniers to major government roles though did they? (honestly asking as a non-American who is watching US politics turn to shit in real-time)
Veganees@reddit
Source?
kylerae@reddit
I think you can argue both sides have major problems, but as we enter the years of famine and increasing natural disasters, and migrations the like of which are almost unfathomable. I personally would much rather have someone like Biden or Harris when we face catastrophe. Leaders who might actually react in a better way and might soften the landing somewhat.
PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES@reddit
Thanks for having reason. I do think I agree for the most part.
But if we're being honest, we need someone like Bernie who would be more likely to completely overhaul rather than apply band-aids.
I was hopeful that the new President would drain the proverbial swamp, but he clearly hasn't. Why though?
I cannot emphasize this enough: the left demonizes his every move. The right seems to have his back for the most part, so he naturally kisses their asses to return the favor. It's this 2 party chicken crap that I'm sick of.
When people play the Dems vs GOP game, no one wins. That's why I'm sick of all the political bs on this sub. I'd go to the politics sub if if wanted to see whining about the election.
Ghostwoods@reddit
You're absolutely right.
Nothing ever will.
The sunk cost fallacy is an absolute bastard.
Birch_Apolyon@reddit
Something I learned about through economics ironically enough. Learned to appreciate how non-rational people were after taking that class.
NotAnotherRedditAcc2@reddit
From 0 to Trump in exactly 1 comment.
PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES@reddit
It's crazy. Some people are acting like Orange man is forcing them to eat more meat, drive their cars, buy more useless crap.
Sure, he's a loon for what he says about CC, but lots of people have the "holier than thou" mentality simply from calling him out. So brave!
Deguilded@reddit
So i'm going with "nothing" here.
thoptergifts@reddit
Stop having kids.
ParamedicExcellent15@reddit
Stop consuming
Ancient-Practice-431@reddit
Stop driving
Brantonios@reddit
So useful when people drive to work to sit in offices all day doing the same work they could’ve done at home, sitting next to their teammates that are in the same Zoom/Teams calls since there are a couple people that are still remote.
It’s all so pointless. I used to have hope but no longer.
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
I have to work in the office 2 days per work to "cooperate with my team". Except that there isn't enough space where they sit, so I'm on a different floor and only see them at lunch (if that). Some weeks I speak less than 10 minutes with them, apart from participation in mandatory meetings.
(I'm in Asia, where bosses get antsy if they can't literally see over your shoulder.)
Birch_Apolyon@reddit
Can't. My parents yell all sorts of shit at me about "being lazy" and trying to "undermine or fight them" and I'm 18 but since I live with them they can blackmail me into doing most anything they want anyway.
Lol, I tried.
jbiserkov@reddit
Revolutionize the political system.
NotAnotherRedditAcc2@reddit
Make profound sounding statements that have no meaning.
HollywoodAndTerds@reddit
Catch Kony
JustAnotherYouth@reddit
Kony Bad 2024
cycle_addict_@reddit
Drought..
First we burn, then we starve.
Waiting for the first year when the multiple bread basket failure happens and the import/export loop freezes.
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
We'll see how fast the blanket tariffs are removed when America has to start importing food afap
pandorafetish@reddit
People fail to realize-this is why Putin invaded Ukraine. Because it's the world's bread basket. Then he proceeded to bomb the h*** out of it, to make it harder for wheat to grow. Good job, greedy disgusting humans.
Fornicate_Yo_Mama@reddit
Pffft. The largest land based oil and natural gas reserves discovered since the Saudi oil fields was found under… drum roll please… Eastern Ukraine… in… nutha one please… 2014.
Commodities fixing and futures trading is just a side racket. Famines make food profits soar; grow less, charge more! Really cuts down on production and distribution costs, ya know? /s
cappsthelegend@reddit
It is Europe's Bread basket. not the world's. He definitely did it to cripple/pressure them though
One_Television_764@reddit
It's also the top exporter for semiconductor grade neon. About 70% of global production. It's incredibly difficult to purge lithography tools properly without it.
hr1966@reddit
But removing supply from EU impacts supply elsewhere.
Grain prices have been through the roof in AU since the war began and we're 15,000km detached from them. It's difficult to be more distant from the Ukraine and not be in an ocean.
bristlybits@reddit
Australia I hate for you to find out this way but you are in an ocean
hr1966@reddit
Lol, thanks.
Johundhar@reddit
Don't they export wheat beyond Europe?
ranchwriter@reddit
Africa
Deguilded@reddit
Where will they go when food gets scarce?
dgradius@reddit
Same place the Gazans are going when food gets scarce.
The graveyard.
ParamedicExcellent15@reddit
It goes anywhere, depending on the price and who’s buying
Johundhar@reddit
Right. Anywhere. That is, anywhere in the world. So they are in fact feeding the world. Of course there are some other major 'breadbaskets of the world,' but Ukraine has been a major one
cappsthelegend@reddit
Probably but they mostly support Europe
Yebi@reddit
Nobody supports Europe, almost every country is a net exporter
mujahidean@reddit
The UK is one of the only major net importers of food in Europe and we get most of our wheat from Canada. It's a bread basket in Europe but I don't believe most their exports are to Africa.
2xtc@reddit
Actually a lot of Ukraine's food exports go to Africa and less developed nations, although this has obviously decreased since the full-scale invasion and destruction of sea routes in 2022
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/ukraines-grain-exports-are-crucial-to-africas-food-security/
m00z9@reddit
NATO+US provoked Putin for 10+ yrs. He was forced to invade.
BadAsBroccoli@reddit
Parking missiles in Ukraine after they were to join NATO is what sparked this. Though, with all the other missiles aimed toward Russia, why it would make a difference, I've never heard.
ArticulateRhinoceros@reddit
Wheat yields in Kansas were at an all-time low last year.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
That would be this coming year. This coming year we will see many common fresh food shortages.
pape14@reddit
I think my short term hopium is we will have a bad year in the US then make adjustments next season away from exports. That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a shitty year but I can see a pivot happening if we aren’t collapsed. The world seems to adjusted around losing ukraines output? I think the us MIGHT get like 5 more years after the global famines start.
BadAsBroccoli@reddit
Yeah, that's what the grossly wealthy naturalized citizen from South Africa said, with his shiny new job in our government.
leo_aureus@reddit
We just elected the fascist oligarch party and gave them the entirety of government, whether or not they choose to export our food supply will be up to their own profit motives and whims unfortuantely.
DrGrannyPayback@reddit
Whut? Seems unlikely.
Kitchen_Database_415@reddit
Sure glad climate change is a hoax.
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ontrack@reddit
I'm guessing this is sarcasm
GingerTea69@reddit
We also skipped Autumn this year and are going straight from Summer to Winter.
drawingablankhere93@reddit
I live in upstate, near the PA border. I moved here 2 years ago from the west coast. In just two years, I have seen a vast change in the weather. The first year we moved here we kept being told it was a mild year for snow, tho there was some snow. Last year the snow barely stuck and melted away very fast. This year it is almost Thanksgiving and it's still in the fifties and barely any rain let alone any other moisture. I have been telling everyone who will listen since I moved here that this is an issue. That snow packs in places that traditionally get a lot of snow over a season are so important both for us, and the areas below us. That it's going to dry up fast and the multitude of rivers around here can shrink and dissipate quicker than you think. That this area is absolutely not prepared for west coast fire weather-but that WILL happen. I have been waved off, laughed at, called a lunatic, and told that the years of living under orange skies, falling ash, and choking on the taste of smoke trapped within a heat dome out west have addled my brain and it could NEVER happen here because it is New York. It's starting here, and when it gets bad it's going to get really bad, because so many people refuse to look at what is happening.
proscriptus@reddit
The sap is running in Vermont this week.
ContessaChaos@reddit
When is that supposed to happen?
proscriptus@reddit
Spring. You make me feel syrup in the late winter and early spring.*
To be clear, there is often a small autumn sap run, but not like this.
*The season on average starts six weeks earlier now than after World War II.
ContessaChaos@reddit
Damn. Thanks.
PaPerm24@reddit
Ive heard its possible to tap in the fall even during normal years because its flowing down instead of up or the opposite
jsc1429@reddit
Manhattan has trees??? Thought it was all concrete lol
jimmy-jro@reddit
Totally fucked
KingofGrapes7@reddit
Don't forget how this is happening in November a week before Thanksgiving. Summer fires will be worse, but brush fires near Christmas will be the mental blow for alot of people.
pandorafetish@reddit
Up until the past week or so, it was in the 70s here in the northeast!!! Humans' capacity for delusion is apparently endless
CassiHuygens@reddit
"God will save us."
It's like some of them haven't read the Bible.
leo_aureus@reddit
You know there are people in this upcoming administration who will be internally advocating for a limited nuclear war to help the environmental and climate situation.
Hell, I think we should have a great big one so that we can erase industrial society before we erase all life on earth as a consequence of that same industrial society.
AlwaysPissedOff59@reddit
I'm assuming at this point that Kyiv will be reduced to fallout sometime after Jan 21, with our permission.
leo_aureus@reddit
It is a source of deep regret, repulsion, and embarassment for myself as an American, but I agree completely.
6sixtynoine9@reddit
This is fine.
bachrodi@reddit
I agree
Suspicious-Bad4703@reddit (OP)
SS: Roughly a year from the sky turning orange spawning Blade Runner images of Times Square, now Manhattan itself is on fire. We’re seeing climate breakdown come home to roost in the core of capitalism.
lasmesitasratonas@reddit
This isn’t the beginning, that’s the thing. The beginning was decades ago.
Suspicious-Bad4703@reddit (OP)
The end of the beginning. The beginning of the End. lol
____cire4____@reddit
We had one in Brooklyn too last week. Seems like possibly a cigarette or small fire that got out of co tell in prospect park. Took an overnight fire crew to put it out. This is fine…
Suspicious-Bad4703@reddit (OP)
I'm surprised Central Park hasn't seen one at this point. Fingers crossed it rains before it does. I've heard this is a combination of climate change induced drought conditions and major cuts to the parks department which means a ton of understory growth and a lot of kindling.
____cire4____@reddit
we are supposed to get a ton of rain Wed. night through Thursday here, but I think it's more imporant upstate gets it for the reservoirs so hopefully they get hit too.
SharpCookie232@reddit
We had a pretty big one near us in metro Boston a couple of days ago. They had to send tanker trucks with water because our ponds are almost dry. Homes were evacuated and it took fire departments from many towns to finally put it out.
That hasn't happened in my life time that I'm aware of and I was born in the 1960's.
BigJobsBigJobs@reddit
my old neighborhood
thr0wnb0ne@reddit
this isnt exactly the heart of global capitalism altho i can see why someone not from nyc might think so. inwood, washington heights and the bx are some of the poorest, most heavily polluted areas in the five boroughs thanks in no small part to its proximity to the i95.
inwood is also literally on the opposite end of the island of manhattan fron wall street and the stock exchange. its like 10 or 1q miles away.
fun fact tho, inwood hill park is the last remaining natural forest and natural salt marsh in manhattan. it sits on a fairly quiet fault line and there are old native american caves in the hills oyster middens that are centuries old, perhaps older than henry hudson
gangstasadvocate@reddit
This one actually a while fire that started in the wild? Or is this still the one that got started with the gunshots sparking it?
FreakInTheTreats@reddit
Wildfires are wildfires because they’re out of control, not because they’re “in the wild”. They also don’t start spontaneously. Even the ones in the wild are started by cigarettes, fireworks, campfires, gender reveals, etc.
RestartTheSystem@reddit
Roughly 90% are started by humans and their idiocy. Lightning strikes do still cause wildfires. Obviously at a much lower rate.
DecisionAvoidant@reddit
SW Washington's biggest fire last year was caused by a dirtbike crash
thoptergifts@reddit
Stop having kids.
StatementBot@reddit
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Suspicious-Bad4703:
SS: Roughly a year from the sky turning orange spawning Blade Runner images of Times Square, now Manhattan itself is on fire. We’re seeing climate breakdown come home to roost in the heart of world capitalism. This is just the beginning.
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