ULPT: If you live in Texas and want to lawfully obscure your car's rear license plat you can do so with a bicycle carrier and multiple bicycles in said carrier as long as the carrier is attached in the usual way.

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CallNResponse@reddit

Just me: if I was going to do something illegal enough that I didn’t want anyone to ID my car - I think I’d just go out and steal one and use it for the task.

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I’ve been pulled over twice, in Indiana and Georgia for having my bike rack obscure my plate from their automatic readers. It’s complete bullshit and not a reason to pull me over, but I still do it and give my license and they check for warrants and let me go.

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knuckles_n_chuckles@reddit

Serious question: why do you care if people can see your plates? Other than “I don’t want government knowing where I am” which is funny because they have your address.

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ThatGuyHadNone@reddit

I just saw that Audit the Audit video too

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theboyyousaw@reddit

Lmao same. Good on that grandma for not backing down.

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flumbum_peters@reddit

W be. E my wz,a

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PilotBurner44@reddit

Any chance you have a link to the video? Not finding it on YouTube with its awful search.

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Mostcoolkid78@reddit

Pretty sure it’s this Haven’t watched it but seems like it based off context clues

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PM-ME-PANTIES@reddit

Yep that's it

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lawn-mumps@reddit

Context??

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TwiztidJuggla420@reddit

I think he is referring to a YouTube channel, if I'm not mistaking.

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xKniqht@reddit

It's a YouTube channel that reviews police interactions from a legal perspective. One of his recent videos covered this exact statute where a woman in Texas was unlawfully pulled over for having a bicycle rack on her car covering her license plate.

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

lol

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Trevor775@reddit

Why is this Texas only?

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

Because I am only sure of Texas.

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interzonal28721@reddit

Useful for free tolls if you take off the front plate

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omadope@reddit

We have "accidentally' driven in the peach pass lane going south through Atlanta. Had our gravel bikes on the back. I looked pretty carefully and it appeared the camera only catch the back plate. That was at least 4 weeks ago. Nothing in the mail yet!

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PO0tyTng@reddit

Txtag cameras catch the back plates… unless you have bikes covering them! Hahaha just have to drive everywhere with hundreds of dollars of stealable goods hanging off the back!

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omadope@reddit

Same with Atlanta's. 😎

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theonliestone@reddit

Just get some crappy bikes - or steal them off someone else

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B1SQ1T@reddit

Just steal someone’s entire car and you never have to worry about paying tolls again

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zenon10@reddit

where does one get crappy bikes?

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booch@reddit

Off someone else's bike rack?

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pooferfeesh97@reddit

Craig'slist.

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

I know a homeless guy who buys them cheap from thrift shops.

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pogo_chronicles@reddit

On Halloween I got a razor scooter for $3 from goodwill and I rode it until the wheel disintegrated that same night.... Totally worth the $3

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

I know a homeless guy who bought a bike from a thrift store for $12, It got stolen. Homeless people steal stuff from each other apparrently all the time. Even the ones that are considered friends. Also had a blanket and sleeping bag stolen. He stopped buying bikes because they kept getting stolen. He just walks everywhere now.

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riiil@reddit

Did he try getting a bikelock ? =)

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StreetlampEsq@reddit

Yeah, cut one off another bike, but didn't seem to help his problem.

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pogo_chronicles@reddit

Homeless people steal stuff from each other apparently all the time

That's what I've heard/seen from the YouTube videos. There's one from channel 5 covering the Las Vegas tunnels within the last year or two

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J-Di11a@reddit

Walmart... Pawn shop... Unattended homeless encampment

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_My_Angry_Account_@reddit

You can pick up free bikes after big music festivals like Coachella. People abandon bikes by the hundreds if not thousands at these events and you can get a bunch for free.

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meower500@reddit

Off of u/theonliestone ‘s bike carrier

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theonliestone@reddit

How'd you know it's mine? My license plate is covered

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Marcus1626@reddit

Creating solutions, not problems

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Shaggy_AF@reddit

Just Craigslist some crappy bikes for $5

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Difficult-Mobile902@reddit

You can get a shitty bike at a thrift store for $10

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tfc867@reddit

Or just put a bike rack in the front, tol!

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gta35@reddit

What would happen if I do it in NJ/NY? Does anybody know?

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AcceptableOwl9@reddit

Same thing. Except you still have to have a front plate.

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Careless-Weather892@reddit

Texas also requires a front plate.

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Cynical_Tripster@reddit

Do they just pull over anyone out of state without a front plate? Or use it to fish? Ideally they'd be like 'Oh that's an OK/NM/KS plate, they don't have fronts' and not do it, but, yaknow... Cops.

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Ds1018@reddit

Probably only if they’re looking for an excuse to pull you over.

Been driving my corvette with no front plate for 12 years here in central Texas and have never been pulled over for it.

My wife’s jacked up Jeep that she’s had for 5 years doesn’t have a plate and they’ve never said anything to her. That’s mostly used in our small-ish town though.

They pulled over our kid in his shitbox for not having one within 6 months though.

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Jooj272729@reddit

If you go west of dripping springs or south of San Antonio it becomes hard ass state trooper or bored sheriff country and they'll pull you over for it. I keep my front plate in my glove box and just put it on the dash when I'm outside of Austin/SA

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No_Willingness9959@reddit

Years ago I started driving my shit box in highschool. Within 2 week I got pulled over for no front plate. Then I bought a new truck only 2 years old and left the dealer place holder sticker on the front. Drove like that for a year and a half before I finally put the front plate on.

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PuffyPoptart@reddit

CA requires a front plate, but I moved from a state that didn’t and still had my old tag. An officer pulled me over and he asked me if my previous state required a front plate as he didn’t know. I told him no and he let me go.

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dominickster@reddit

I've been pulled over for my missing front plate in CA. If you don't have a front plate and the cops can't see your back plate, you're 100% getting pulled over

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bigfoot_goes_boom@reddit

I’ve never had a front plate nor has anyone in my family and we have visited California as well as driven around our own state with a bike rack covering the rear plenty. Never had an issue

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dominickster@reddit

Cops just didn't see you

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TedW@reddit

They meant 100% +/- 50%.

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BeneficialNobody7722@reddit

I live in California and have had no front and a non-plate rear for 6 years. No stops. Depends on the car you drive.

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testaccount123x@reddit

spent the first 30 years of my life in tx, got pulled over for all kinds of bullshit and non-bullshit like speeding. I was a cop magnet, and never once did I get pulled over for no front plate or did a cop even mention it when I would get pulled over. And I've never had one on there

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HumunculiTzu@reddit

The first time I ever got pulled over was because I didn't have a front license plate, they then proceeded to search my car because it was suspicious. I'm not from out of state

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Gold_for_Gould@reddit

If they want to pull you over it's not difficult to make something up. If anything, this ULPT would draw more attention to you. Unless your plates come back as stolen or something this isn't going to be helpful at all.

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Wildcat_twister12@reddit

Legally they’re not suppose to. States are suppose to support other states laws when it comes to this kind of stuff.

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bardblitz@reddit

Can we install a front loaded bike rack as well??

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Careless-Weather892@reddit

Snow plow. They’ll never suspect a thing.

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Nowhereman55@reddit

"oh sorry officer I've just been paranoid since the Winter Power Crisis, I can remove it" 😂

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cttime@reddit

Just gotta mount a bike carrier on the front too

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irishpwr46@reddit

Keep the front plate on the passenger side floorboards with one screw. If you get pulled over, show the cop and say that it was falling off and you have to get replacement screws.

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wtporter@reddit

It’s illegal in NYS. It’s a violation to obscure the plate by “any part of the vehicle or anything carried thereon.”

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iron_annie@reddit

Tiny dab of clear glue and a small random dried leaf that just happens to be stuck to your front plate. Tis the season.

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username2563@reddit

The bikes would get stolen.

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JS_NYC_208@reddit

In NJ, More and more people have bike racks installed. Anything to avoid paying.

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blindreefer@reddit

Just drive around without plates. I don’t think anybody gets in trouble for that there

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Peanut_Farmer67@reddit

You can obscure it until a trooper decides he has quota to meet for the month. Then your getting a ticket.

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ilikeycycling@reddit

And you’ll still win in court

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TheBigKahuna44@reddit

Yeah but you’ve already lost because you had to go to court

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strangelove4564@reddit

If it's Judge Fleischer you'll still get a dressing down.

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KidPowered17@reddit

Love his content, I watch him almost daily.

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dubstyles240@reddit

lol quotas. Texas cops ain’t doin shit these days.

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PissedOffAsylum@reddit

Just this summer I drove from Indiana to North Carolina with the same setup. Never had an issue, but free tolls

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InitiativeAgile1875@reddit

Fuck me why didn't I think of this. My unregistered vehicle and I thank you

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user26031Backup@reddit

Funny timing there was an audit the audit episode just the other day about this.

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todudeornote@reddit

You'll save lots of money - until those bikes are stolen off your car.

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todudeornote@reddit

Also, your gas mileage will sink.

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Gscody@reddit

Not by much.

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DragonSlayer19827@reddit

Buy cheaper gas. Simple.

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

Buy cheap ones from thrift stores.

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dennys123@reddit

Or just get some high wattage IR LED's and put them around your plate, wire to your battery and you're good to go

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Averylarrychristmas@reddit

I know this is supposed to be unethical tips…but I just assume that anyone intentionally trying to obscure their plate is a massive fucking asshole.

I haven’t been wrong yet :)

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

You know some companies troll parking lots scanning people's plates and then sell the info?

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Averylarrychristmas@reddit

That’s not why people use it :) they use it to dodge fees and avoid responsibility, like an asshole.

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drjunkie@reddit

Dodging fees from companies is an ethical thing to do though. I’d say it’s even part of your civic duty.

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Pokari_Davaham@reddit

I get that you've already acknowledged this, but obviously there is a big overlap between unethical/asshole behavior.

Wanting to conceal your plates from corporate scanners isn't even unethical.

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itrnella@reddit

Did we watch the same video on YouTube today? Lol

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johnhasheart@reddit

Audit The Audit ftw.

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itrnella@reddit

Fucking love that shit. One of my most watched channels!

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Wellarmedsheepy010@reddit

Around philly you can just cover it with a tint cover and the cops apparently dont care.

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MrPoopMcScoop@reddit

This is not true.

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that_bermudian@reddit

The statute specifically mentions that bicycle racks mounted in a normal fashion cannot be used to charge a motorist with obstruction of their license plate…

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that_bermudian@reddit

u/dirtymoney I see you enjoy watching Audit the Audit

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glockman40@reddit

You saw the same video on the YouTube channel “Audit the Audit” that I saw yesterday.

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strangelove4564@reddit

Can't count the number of times I've seen people obscuring their plate with a large ball hitch.

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dirtymoney@reddit (OP)

I often wonder about using those hitch mounted cargo carrier trays with cargo in it.

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