Public school system in US sucks.
Posted by CrueltySquadMODTempt@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 57 comments
I somehow ended up in a Social Justice class which espouses ideas of Socialism and ironically social inequality. We are very much taught that we need to support the government, the education system must stay as is, we need public healthcare, guns should not be available, capitalism is bad, sexism and racism only goes for women and black people, diversity hires are good, the word fat is a slur, et cetera. Which are all ideas which I am very much not a fan of this being taught at the norm as it quickly brainwashes people into thinking that certain groups are greater than others, that there is no fairness in life, the use of words and supporting the right to bear arms is bad, and I am so annoyed that this is something being taught in our schools.
Tannman129@reddit
Thank God my kids go to a small conservative school, I couldn't deal with this nonsense
Viend@reddit
You’re not safe there either, as evidenced by Oklahoma pushing the Bible into schools.
Tannman129@reddit
Homie, I've gone to this school my entire Childhood. I'm best friends with the local sheriff, I grind corn with the principles dad, and have grown up with most of the staff. We're good.
Viend@reddit
None of those things matter if the state's forcing your school to force religion down your kid's throat.
Tannman129@reddit
Then fucking move, I don't know what to tell ya.
Late_Requirement_971@reddit
It’s a religion to those people.
What state is this?
CrueltySquadMODTempt@reddit (OP)
Washington state, I can't believe tax dollars are paid for this.
jthanson@reddit
We’re the only state that went bluer after 2020. Believe it, or move to the dry side when you’re older.
Late_Requirement_971@reddit
Every time I read stuff like this it makes me want to home school my kids
CrueltySquadMODTempt@reddit (OP)
I wish my parents would listen to me about home schooling, I tried that after getting bullied out of a school and it was the happiest I had been with my education in a long time.
optimisticbear@reddit
Some people aspire to learn more than their parents ever knew. As a graduate of a Private School in Bothell I resent learning about simple facts my peers learned in grade school only after I entered college level courses. Homeschools and private schools can and truly do end up being detrimental to the education of our youth.
golsol@reddit
Homeschool uses curriculum just like public and private school. Parents can teach their kids information they never learned in school. When you combine the resources of the internet with this, homeschool kids can wind up grades ahead of their public school peers.
My daughter is in 2nd grade and reads at a 6th grade level and is starting to learn basic algebra. Her peers in our local public school district are hardly literate and can barely count.
Illustrious-Fox4063@reddit
They may not even be potty trained if the /teacher sub is to be believed.
optimisticbear@reddit
My point was just because it's a homeschool/private school doesnt mean there's guaranteed outcomes. I'm glad it's working out for you and your family currently. I hope that continues to be the case.
somatt@reddit
Did you not have YouTube?
optimisticbear@reddit
Well considering I'm 10 years older than Google and YouTube was invented during my senior year of highschool. No. The Internet was a vastly different place in the 2000s.
somatt@reddit
Luckily we do now
Late_Requirement_971@reddit
It’s parents’ responsibility to make sure the money spent on a private education is worth it.
Don’t blame private schools for your parents making a poor investment.
optimisticbear@reddit
Hell yeah brother. I learned how the Earth was 6-10k years old instead of learning about evolution. Their investments were in the riches of the afterlife, but yeah blame my parents.
somatt@reddit
I will be doing just this
txeagle24@reddit
I never stepped foot in a public school classroom, and neither will my kids. Even friends who hated their private or homeschool experience and have varying political views feel the same way, and we're in a part of Texas that supposedly has good schools.
1_shade_off@reddit
You have friends with varying political views? I don't think that's allowed anymore
Ed_Radley@reddit
I’m happy my public school experience doesn’t reflect this. Literally the only class that was political was my high school history class and it was taught by a conservative.
Iqueefrainbows@reddit
Leave the West Coast, now. It's over taxed, over priced, corrupt AF, and crime is rising while your gun rights are eroding. I was born and raised in SoCal since '78 spent twenty years in the Bar Area, and five in Portland. I left to the South East and have not regretted one thing. Cheaper, better quality people, politics don't mean shit, easy to start a business and buy property. Fuck the West Coast.
CrueltySquadMODTempt@reddit (OP)
Yeah I really hate it here, I've always thought if I were to leave to another state I'd go to Florida. I've always been in love with Miami, I'm also a huge fan of Cuban culture and according to my dad some parts of the city are still stuck in that 80's whimsy which sounds amazing. But in reality I think I'm going to just leave the USA, I have family in Italy and Argentina so one of those two seem like a good destination.
AloofusMaximus@reddit
I often wondered why some parents in a district like this, hasn't been able to challenge it in court yet.
This shit is far far worse than the pledge of allegiance or some football coach praying before a game, but there's never been a signed challenge ( to the best of my knowledge).
mleet29@reddit
Care to share even one example that you’ve witnessed to any claim? I’m an elementary teacher in a small district. Literally nothing that you’ve said is taking place here. Or anywhere in schools that I’ve worked in. Not one of those. You just regurgitated every talking point of that chode Andrew Taint. You’re obviously a young male. Pick better role models.
CrueltySquadMODTempt@reddit (OP)
It's in a school in the Lake Washington School District in Seattle Metropolitan area that much I'll say. Also what does any of this have to do with Andrew Tate? I'm saying that I think you can be hateful to anyone no matter race or gender, people should have guns, defund the fed, and privatized business is better. This may be a specific case but this person is being paid to teach kids their viewpoint without question by tax payers.
jthanson@reddit
Lake Washington School District? I’m surprised you’re not quoting Che Guevara yet.
PhotographMyWife@reddit
My daughter goes to public schools in the most red state in the union. I'm just popping in to say, the entire claim by the original OP is consistent with what she has been taught for at least four years. The second I stepped in to voice my concerns, I was immediately blasted. Within a couple of months, my daughter told me I was "homophobic" because I was not gay. "That's what the counselor told me."
So, can confirm. Even being in the most "right" state is not better than a very "left" state. I never wanted her in public schools. This is unacceptable.
mleet29@reddit
Can I ask you to give an example that would cause you to go to the school? OP didn’t give examples he has witnessed, but just other people’s stories. You said it was your experience, can you give me a real example? I can give real world examples because I’m a teacher and none of that works be acceptable to teach. If any one of those happened then parents would come for our heads. Rightfully so. How old was your daughter during this conversation with the counselor? I mean, really. Do you really think an actual adult human said that your father is homophobic because he isn’t gay? Is it possible there was a misunderstanding in a counselors lesson?
PhotographMyWife@reddit
You're dead-ass wrong on both of your last two statements. I am FROM that state and I have an adolescent daughter who I have taught to be a decent human being and not some weak-minded, feminist, liberal nutjob who thinks "all men" are some sort of sinister, evil bring looking to victimize all women.
The conversation I mentioned came up at during parent/teacher conference. After the counselor said her piece about her thoughts on my daughter, I asked about the spewing of BS associated with LGBT students at the school and why that was a part of curriculum at all.
BallsOutKrunked@reddit
Nevada high school, my kid said one of her teachers cried the day after the election and spent the day teaching her periods about fascism making parallels to Trump.
pristine_planet@reddit
Very red city in a mostly red county in an ever red state and my daughter witnessed similar events after the elections, more than one teacher. That’s not their job, definitely not what we pay them for.
Comprehensive-Bus299@reddit
Only had to read the title to agree. It always has. Amd some states are worse than others in very different ways.
TravisKOP@reddit
The Soviets won. They knew they couldn’t beat us economically or militarily so they just poisoned our culture and died knowing we’d follow shortly after
Sekreid@reddit
After joining Noah get the boat I’m seeing a teacher or two a week molesting kids, ugh .
Stldjw@reddit
Remember when we were racing the Soviets and were dumping money into science and math? Need to bring that back.
Technology as well.
TheRealDarkPatriot@reddit
Record the class for us. People try to pretend like this isn’t happening.
TheLizardBrain@reddit
I think you’re taking certain concepts a certain way and running with them. I can easily imagine an educational segment about Capitalism itself or vs Socialism or whatever.
They may have pointed out some major flaws in capitalism- which there are- and you took that as “capitalism is bad”.
Same for racism and sexism- they probably were highlighting pervasive problems in modern history and even current day- black people and women have had a harder time in this country than white males. That doesn’t mean racism and sexism against white males doesnt exist, but slavery, Jim Crow, drug laws, women’s suffrage, reproductive rights and so on are more glaring examples than issues that white men face.
So I don’t think you’re wrong or posting this in bad faith, but I think your perspective is skewing your perception a certain way that might not be the full story.
AloofusMaximus@reddit
While i didn't have this experience, my best friend went to a different high school than me. He had a teacher that literally taught that black people were incapable of being racists to white people, we went to high school in the 90s, BTW.
I'm not 100% sure of the details, but know broadly, that part of the post modern philosophy looks at everything via power dynamics. That's the underlying framework for all the "woke stuff".
With that being said, I think some of these people actually really drank the Kool aid and do see everything like that. I think there's some decent points there, but it's not a very good world view.
Even intersectionality can be useful in the sense that "this person will never have your perspective because of vastly different life ecperiences". Instead, today it's used as victimized king of the hill.
AlphaIota@reddit
I would speak at a school board meeting.
ThatGuyWithAHoodOn@reddit
My college has a handful of required CORE classes that teach very similar stuff. Fml I have to pay to go to a class that is completely useless and also has required attendance. You can tell the professor very much is spouting his own beliefs instead of being impartial.
kfmfe04@reddit
Hope DOGE shuts down the DOE and gets rid of this indoctrination BS.
Mirness6@reddit
I call it political grooming
elganador0@reddit
We have to open the schools, no school choice is cooking these kids
DravenTor@reddit
This must be why all the American liberal teachers are shitting their pants right now. They know people are fighting back against grooming their children with their woke agenda.
Tennoz@reddit
The liberal party has always had a hold on education, this honestly doesn't surprise me
wormfood86@reddit
"But you can't cut funding for education, think for the children!"
-The idiots teaching this crap
BallsOutKrunked@reddit
Just give them more tax dollars and everything will be better. /s
Constant_Jeweler7464@reddit
This is why we homeschool.
denzien@reddit
I'm about to send my oldest off to college. I hope I've inoculated him against this crap. I told him, just say what the professor wants you to say even if it's something you disagree with. It's about the grades.
meabbott@reddit
Well, yeah. It is designed to produce winger voters and it works quite well with 95+ percent of voters going for wingers.
pimperella2@reddit
This sounds like bullshit
BallsOutKrunked@reddit
Best part is we're supposed to make it better by paying more taxes.
ExpatSajak@reddit
Thank god i went to a small town public school and also before all this activism on both sides ramped up. We were taught an entirely un sugarcoated American history. We learned about the government's treatment of Native Americans, African Americans, and Asian Americans, some stuff I had never even heard of before. It covered the good and the bad. It wasn't some rah rah jingoistic history. And we were never told what to think aside from condemnation of blatant atrocities. Diversity of viewpoints was accepted, and we were given ample chance to share our opinions on social issues and no one's was ever given preference by teachers
Ninthreer@reddit
You’ve got a really good mindset!
but yeah US schools suck. Just hang on to your morals and you’ll push through