Im in the deep, deep depression phase of it, i cannot look at a happy couple or a beautiful woman without feeling incredible jealousy and sadness that ill never have or experience such happiness
Women do care about height, but unless you’re a midget you are still taller than a lot of women. If you are a midget then there are people into that too. You have to find a social hobby where you can talk to and meet women. It’s the only possible way. Being at home isn’t going to summon pussy to you. Going out in public for shopping isn’t going to land you a date.
Basically talk to real women in real life and it will solve itself.
If you talk to enough real women and select based on attraction you’ll find something eventually. Assuming your standards aren’t literally insane like they have to be a model, virgin, etc.
It's not completely over; the height thing is overexaggerated a tremendous amount on social media honestly. I personally know several women who prefer shorter guys as well. Also saying "I'll never have this" at 17 (not even 1/5th of your life is over) is just silly; you'll be alright man. Wagmi
Imo, it's better to just focus on something else for finding fulfilment and happiness in life than living with false hope, chasing the unattainable and failing over and over.
Giving up on relationships isn't the same as giving up on life.
Listen dawg literally if you clean yourself, you arent obese, and you have the right amount of limbs there's some girl out there that you can manage to pull
Not saying btw you shouldn't clean yourself or be obese, I'm saying not everyone will manage to pull, I think it's better for them to give up on relationships and finding fulfilment elsewhere instead of trying and trying for zero results and having their self worth shattered
I know, its just, i fear that reality, its still entirely possible if not guaranteed, and a probably near decade of porn addiction has really fucked up my world view. Im off it now, but mainly because it makes me sad when i look at it. I know its just feels im not used to from november, but im scared man
Never too late to stop watching porn my man, dont worry too much about it. This might be hard to believe but as long as you can make a girl laugh, you're good.
First year ive done NNN, i have no urge for porn anymore, i just get sad every time i watch it from either jealousy or loneliness, i see people having a (supposedly) good time and i just cant handle it
Im not outwardly horny anymore, im just horny in the manner that im sad that no one finds me attractive
Hey man you’re 17 and still have lots of time to figure this stuff out, don’t sweat it. Quitting porn is already great. And yes your height is a disadvantage but it’s not a death sentence, I knew a guy who was your height and fat and physically not very attractive, but he had a unique sense of style and was funny and outgoing and he had plenty of sex and multiple LTRs. Honestly do your best to ignore your height, it’s not worth dwelling on. Everyone’s born with advantages and disadvantages, all that matters is being the best you can be, and you will find someone who likes your unique combination of born traits and developed traits.
Man, you’re 17. You have your entire wonderful life ahead of you.
Lots of my friends went out with men who were shorter than them. Hell, one of them married an actual genuine dwarf, and she’s about 5’7”.
I’m not saying that you don’t have it harder than someone who’s 6’2”, and it’s definitely harder when you’re younger and girls are generally more shallow and daft themselves than when you’re older and personality really is more important for both sexes.
But honestly, take it from an older woman, it really isn’t as big a deal as you think it is right now, and it won’t stop you having all that one day - unless you let it.
Just who do you think is populating the internet? So many dullards like yourself with the "internet isn't real life" take. Everyone walking around outside is part of this digital hellscape and each and every one of their minds are dramatically affected by it. We are all exposed to the same ideas, and they penetrate
I have been repeatedly told I am attractive by multiple people, even think so myself. I have also been asked to be someones boyfriend multiple times, but turned it down, no clue why. Still a virgin despite having been asked if I want to have sex with people, also not sure why.
I very rarely care, but I am depressed and sometimes also have moments of "damn, I wish I had a loving wife", but they pass and are far apart.
Reality is I will probably never aproach someone first because people make me anxious and stressed and I rarely leave house for same reason, though like I said, I don't really mind 99% of the time.
Maybe you're only willing to get intimate/become someone's partner once you form a connection and actually get to know them and trust them, that's fine
it's okay. you're only 17 and you've had one girlfriend before. that's normal. a lot of people don't start dating at all till 16. i don't think you should feel so hopeless when you're so young.
it does suck when you don't have success with women. i know they tend to be pickier than men, and it might be hard to find someone. but you probably eventually will. i mean the way i think about it, how many people end up like 60 saying "yeah i never married anyone because not even one decent woman wanted to be with me."? even people with rough dating lives tend to eventually end up with someone.
the modern problem is people becoming extremely superficial because of dating apps and everyone becoming extremely status oriented. and i think the solution is to meet people in real life and try to genuinely get to know them before making a move as much as possible. irl, people assess you and interact with you as an actual person. and they actually get to know you. a lot of women meet a guy they don't like for a superficial reason and eventually like him for his personality. whereas online, people assess you as just a statistic or a number on a scale like height or salary or something like that (salary not applicable at 17 though). I know some girls don't like when guys sort of "befriend" them before trying to make a move. so i feel like the strat is more like to meet a girl, befriend her genuinely, and allow a friendship to build up and if there's more chemistry between you two than that then it eventually naturally transitions into something more. i mean, even making friends is hard for some people. but i think this is the strat.
maybe i'm being schizo and yapping about something no one cares about. but i do genuinely sympathize with this problem a lot of guys have these days. i just think you shouldn't feel so eternally hopeless about romantic prospects when you're only 17 and have already gotten a girl once. things will probably work out okay for you.
But thats the thing, my only relationship with a girl was a weird one, she had alot of trauma and mental issues and basically jumped on me, i think because i was just nice to her and i allowed her to use me as a trauma pillow, i still have no idea how to talk to women or any idea of what hints from a girl look like, before and after that, i havent had a single girl even bat an eyelid at me
Not necessarily true. Women are just more subtle about it. But they will still have men they want to get with and they will put themselves in the position to talk to you and get you to ask them out.
To be honest, I don't see how. You might get a better idea of whether a certain girl will reject you or not, but whether or not you recognize her "hints" doesn't change whether she likes you or not. She could like you and you think she doesn't or vice versa.
Unless you just ask out any girl who shows interest in you. Which I guess some people do, and that's fair.
Or if you mean that you can avoid asking a girl out if she gives you no hints in order to reduce the chances of rejection, then that's also true. But I don't recommend that because you never know for sure if someone likes you, and it's best to learn to handle rejection in life.
Yeah, thats the problem im worried about. Low self esteem, so will never believe that a woman actually likes me enough for me to risk asking them out, im very blunt, and dont do hints well.
Its like the perfect cocktail for absolute failure
you're probably gonna have to learn to accept rejection. it'll hurt a lot the first time but once it happens a lot you'll learn not to internalize it and maybe that will even heal your self esteem. i used to have a really shitty self esteem when i was younger too. i'm 16. when i was like 10 or so i definitely hated myself. things got progressively better but i still had a somewhat bad self esteem that i tried to bury in a million different ways until i was about 14 and had the most earth shattering heartbreak ever and it kind of caused me to change my entire life. I mean it's kind of complex and it would be a super long story to explain why those two things relate but now my self esteem is a lot better. it's more about self acceptance than self love, to me. I can look in the mirror and see that I have a little bit of fat under my chin or messy eyebrows or whatever else i used to be insecure about. (to be honest i feel like i was imagining a lot of it. looking back maybe i had body dysmorphia) and now these are things that i have accepted, and instead of obsessively hating it i just accept that that's how i am and who i am that's okay.
i think the same goes for rejection; its about accepting that someone doesn't want you and accepting who you are. it's easier said than done but try not to let the fact that some girl doesn't want you destroy you. just because she doesn't like you doesn't mean that you're worthless or that no one ever will want you or whatever else it might make you think. fear of rejection is not really about rejection. it's about what you take it to mean and the way you might internalize it. in reality it doesn't mean much. it means that you weren't her type. at most it means that you're conventionally unattractive. but even if you are, so what? life goes on. whether that girl wanted you or not doesn't change who you are or how attractive you are. you remain the same person at the same level of desirability before and after being rejected by some woman. so when you think about it, it doesn't even matter.
i know understanding this and learning to make the move is easier said than done. unlearning low self esteem was also more easily said than done for me. but it is absolutely possible. i used to be insanely depressed and anxious and self hating and i was even on meds for it at some point. but now i feel better and i'm happy with myself and my life.
finding a partner is very possible for you. but you will probably have to learn self confidence first in order to unlock that potential. as a bonus, that's also something that will probably make you more attractive to women.
i know i just told my whole life story but idk😭 i really wanted to say that to you
I dont exactly hate myself anymore, im just scared that no one will like me in that way, i dont even think my girlfriend did tbh, she just needed a bodypillow. What i seem to have internalised is that no one really actually cares about me and they just say nice things so that their names wont be on the note i inevitably write, if someone says they like talking to me or like being around me, i instinctually dont believe them, it doesnt make logical sense to me, i think thats partly why my first relationship just... fizzled out more than anything else
I was the same way and that stuff just gradually went away over time. I had only one gf by 17 as well but still ended up dating/hooking up throughout my 20s and now I'm about to get married at 34. Your age is the worst for self confidence but I promise when you get older you'll feel silly for ever having worried about it. As much as you can just try to be nice, friendly, outgoing, and confident (you'll be faking it at first) and force yourself into social situations and you'll be fine. Especially if you're going off to college or moving to a large city.
If you stay in shape, have good hygiene, a decent haircut, wear clothes that fit, be caring and pleasant to be around, etc there's always going to be women who are attracted to you. There's some who won't date short guys but plenty more who wouldn't care.
Also if your ego can handle it you can get on Tinder or one of those other apps. You have to spend a while on it and you'll feel like you're getting rejected a lot, but if you're shy or bad at reading signals it's much easier to meet people there when it flashes a big fucking sign that says "THEY LIKE YOU TOO". That's how I met most of my girlfriends when my self-esteem was bad
'Happy couples' is an oxymoron, OP. And women remain beautiful only for a few years. But a sigma male like you will always remain an undergarment-soaker. Be happy, king!
Isn't that part of the so-called point? I thought part of the non-memey purpose was to break the porn-fap-dopamine cycle and "re-naturalize" your thought/lust pattern so it could focus on real, non-digitalized
I am yet to have issues. I masturbate average once a day probably, sometimes none, sometimes twice, sometimes once. The times I feel myself fall down the coomer hole I do a reality check and just drop all porn for a week or two. Also randomly just stop masturbating for a week or two for no reason just because I don't feel like it.
Not to generalize, but I feel like if you have issues and become a complete coomer you have no one else to blame.
I know a guy who is a complete freak and after I realised he also tried to make the case in a group chat that masturbating 7+ times a day is completly normal and that most people do it. I don't care if you do that, but don't act as if that is the norm, neither is complete abstinance. Just have a healthy relation to gooning and you'll (probably) be happier.
Strangely, I have the opposite effect. The first week I was getting horny all the time, now I don't get horny at all, just random boners through the evening and night. Bruh.
Funny enough, the French have an expression for that, it's "être en chien", which could be translated as "to be as a dog", meaning to be desperate for sex or money (usually).
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Im in the deep, deep depression phase of it, i cannot look at a happy couple or a beautiful woman without feeling incredible jealousy and sadness that ill never have or experience such happiness
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Maybe stop feeling sorry for yourself and get your shit together
Banana_Soreen@reddit
How
8123619744@reddit
Women do care about height, but unless you’re a midget you are still taller than a lot of women. If you are a midget then there are people into that too. You have to find a social hobby where you can talk to and meet women. It’s the only possible way. Being at home isn’t going to summon pussy to you. Going out in public for shopping isn’t going to land you a date.
Basically talk to real women in real life and it will solve itself.
LordVaderVader@reddit
I think the real problem is people don't want to have any girlfriend.
They want to have girlfriend which they consider beautiful and it's narrowing their range of interest.
8123619744@reddit
If you talk to enough real women and select based on attraction you’ll find something eventually. Assuming your standards aren’t literally insane like they have to be a model, virgin, etc.
The_King_7067@reddit
Fix any stuff that is making you ugly/unattractive.
Too fat? Too skinny? Ugly body basically? Diet + gym
Bald? Try to fix that if possible
Etc etc
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I have basically none of those problems
Im at least average in practically every field
Except.....
that one
Im short
The_King_7067@reddit
Oof, I'm sorry
Banana_Soreen@reddit
And its over just like that
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Have you tried just walking up to random women and talking to them if u do a 100 atleast 20 would say yes
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I feel like most women would be creeped out if an incredibly short, 17 year old dude walked up to them and started talking to them
Ssyynnxx@reddit
How short?
Banana_Soreen@reddit
5'4
Ssyynnxx@reddit
It's not completely over; the height thing is overexaggerated a tremendous amount on social media honestly. I personally know several women who prefer shorter guys as well. Also saying "I'll never have this" at 17 (not even 1/5th of your life is over) is just silly; you'll be alright man. Wagmi
The_King_7067@reddit
Do they actually have a shorter boyfriend, or are they just saying that
Ssyynnxx@reddit
I know one of them is dating a 5'2 dude lmao
The_King_7067@reddit
That's a lucky ahh 5'2 dude then
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Is he lucky or did he just know his audience
The_King_7067@reddit
I just feel like people who look beyond physical attributes are rare
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Pretty surprising but most people really do think personality>looks
The_King_7067@reddit
How your personality is perceived is also dependent on looks
Someone ugly being confident is more likely to be seen as arrogant
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Alright man its completely over if you think youre ugly, just give up, no point in trying, etc
Is that what you want to hear?
The_King_7067@reddit
Imo, it's better to just focus on something else for finding fulfilment and happiness in life than living with false hope, chasing the unattainable and failing over and over.
Giving up on relationships isn't the same as giving up on life.
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Listen dawg literally if you clean yourself, you arent obese, and you have the right amount of limbs there's some girl out there that you can manage to pull
The_King_7067@reddit
What if someone is ugly though?
Not saying btw you shouldn't clean yourself or be obese, I'm saying not everyone will manage to pull, I think it's better for them to give up on relationships and finding fulfilment elsewhere instead of trying and trying for zero results and having their self worth shattered
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yeah I'm straight up saying you can still pull if you're ugly physically
The_King_7067@reddit
If you're very lucky, maybe. Even more lucky if it's a healthy relationship
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yeah I'm not spending days going back and forth, you can believe whatever you want to, all I'm saying is you're not fucked if you're not a 10/10
The_King_7067@reddit
I'm saying you're fucked if you're ugly, not if you're not a 10/10, being ugly doesn't mean not being a 10/10
Fair enough if you don't want to reply anymore, we both have better things to do in our life than arguing on Reddit kek. Have a good one.
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I know, its just, i fear that reality, its still entirely possible if not guaranteed, and a probably near decade of porn addiction has really fucked up my world view. Im off it now, but mainly because it makes me sad when i look at it. I know its just feels im not used to from november, but im scared man
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Never too late to stop watching porn my man, dont worry too much about it. This might be hard to believe but as long as you can make a girl laugh, you're good.
Banana_Soreen@reddit
First year ive done NNN, i have no urge for porn anymore, i just get sad every time i watch it from either jealousy or loneliness, i see people having a (supposedly) good time and i just cant handle it
Im not outwardly horny anymore, im just horny in the manner that im sad that no one finds me attractive
WettestNoodle@reddit
Hey man you’re 17 and still have lots of time to figure this stuff out, don’t sweat it. Quitting porn is already great. And yes your height is a disadvantage but it’s not a death sentence, I knew a guy who was your height and fat and physically not very attractive, but he had a unique sense of style and was funny and outgoing and he had plenty of sex and multiple LTRs. Honestly do your best to ignore your height, it’s not worth dwelling on. Everyone’s born with advantages and disadvantages, all that matters is being the best you can be, and you will find someone who likes your unique combination of born traits and developed traits.
Ssyynnxx@reddit
I think nnn is kind of a meme, abstaining for the whole month is borderline self destructive in my honest opinion
The_King_7067@reddit
I pray that one day you may grow above at least 5'8 (preferably more) brother
travelerfromabroad@reddit
5'4 is bad but remember that the avg height for women is 5'2.
Banana_Soreen@reddit
It still basically completely removes dating apps from even being an option
Allmychickenbois@reddit
Man, you’re 17. You have your entire wonderful life ahead of you.
Lots of my friends went out with men who were shorter than them. Hell, one of them married an actual genuine dwarf, and she’s about 5’7”.
I’m not saying that you don’t have it harder than someone who’s 6’2”, and it’s definitely harder when you’re younger and girls are generally more shallow and daft themselves than when you’re older and personality really is more important for both sexes.
But honestly, take it from an older woman, it really isn’t as big a deal as you think it is right now, and it won’t stop you having all that one day - unless you let it.
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
You won't till you try 99% of guys give up before hitting a jackpot
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Is that how you got a girlfriend?
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Ye
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I dont believe you but ill give you benefit of the doubt
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
You won't know till you try
The_King_7067@reddit
This isn't true for people that aren't attractive
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Take every chance you got instead of blaming the tools you were born with at best sharpen your tools and keep trying it's never chances are never 0
The_King_7067@reddit
It really depends
For most sure it's not a good idea to give up
But for some it's over, in which case I'd suggest they do their best to accept it and find fulfilment+happiness in other things life has to offer
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Sure as long as you don't close yourself off in both heart and mind and keep a clear view of things you can still find happiness
The_King_7067@reddit
Easier said than done, but it is true
You'll never know until you try, but for some people it is genuinely over (like the ones born with a misfigured face)
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yea for sure but I'm willing to bet some dude on the 4chan subreddit is fairly normal looking & just hella insecure
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Admittedly yes, being short doesnt help though
Ssyynnxx@reddit
It does in some cases
This height obsession in the internet is annoying as fuck, it just isnt that important irl
home_rolled@reddit
Just who do you think is populating the internet? So many dullards like yourself with the "internet isn't real life" take. Everyone walking around outside is part of this digital hellscape and each and every one of their minds are dramatically affected by it. We are all exposed to the same ideas, and they penetrate
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Sounds like you got penetrated alright lmfao
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Theres being short, then theres being "obnoxiously short" as someone described it, im 5'4
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yeah and? If you're not submissive maybe you're a little fucked but if not there are tons of girls who are into that
Personal-Weekend-582@reddit
Glad there wasn't this epidemic of self defeatism / incel online culture when i was 18 cause it would have messed up my head
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yeah i missed it by like 2 years; its fucking awful
Zestyclose_Zone_9253@reddit
I have been repeatedly told I am attractive by multiple people, even think so myself. I have also been asked to be someones boyfriend multiple times, but turned it down, no clue why. Still a virgin despite having been asked if I want to have sex with people, also not sure why.
I very rarely care, but I am depressed and sometimes also have moments of "damn, I wish I had a loving wife", but they pass and are far apart.
Reality is I will probably never aproach someone first because people make me anxious and stressed and I rarely leave house for same reason, though like I said, I don't really mind 99% of the time.
The_King_7067@reddit
Maybe you're only willing to get intimate/become someone's partner once you form a connection and actually get to know them and trust them, that's fine
I hope you can find someone one day
Mesarthim1349@reddit
"Just stop being sad, lulz"
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Yea man you got me!
BigOlSandal69@reddit
i'm genuinely sorry for you
you'll find it though bro
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Im not exactly hopeful
I feel like this is going to be a new, continuous thing that doesnt stop after november ends
BigOlSandal69@reddit
it's okay. you're only 17 and you've had one girlfriend before. that's normal. a lot of people don't start dating at all till 16. i don't think you should feel so hopeless when you're so young.
it does suck when you don't have success with women. i know they tend to be pickier than men, and it might be hard to find someone. but you probably eventually will. i mean the way i think about it, how many people end up like 60 saying "yeah i never married anyone because not even one decent woman wanted to be with me."? even people with rough dating lives tend to eventually end up with someone.
the modern problem is people becoming extremely superficial because of dating apps and everyone becoming extremely status oriented. and i think the solution is to meet people in real life and try to genuinely get to know them before making a move as much as possible. irl, people assess you and interact with you as an actual person. and they actually get to know you. a lot of women meet a guy they don't like for a superficial reason and eventually like him for his personality. whereas online, people assess you as just a statistic or a number on a scale like height or salary or something like that (salary not applicable at 17 though). I know some girls don't like when guys sort of "befriend" them before trying to make a move. so i feel like the strat is more like to meet a girl, befriend her genuinely, and allow a friendship to build up and if there's more chemistry between you two than that then it eventually naturally transitions into something more. i mean, even making friends is hard for some people. but i think this is the strat.
maybe i'm being schizo and yapping about something no one cares about. but i do genuinely sympathize with this problem a lot of guys have these days. i just think you shouldn't feel so eternally hopeless about romantic prospects when you're only 17 and have already gotten a girl once. things will probably work out okay for you.
Banana_Soreen@reddit
But thats the thing, my only relationship with a girl was a weird one, she had alot of trauma and mental issues and basically jumped on me, i think because i was just nice to her and i allowed her to use me as a trauma pillow, i still have no idea how to talk to women or any idea of what hints from a girl look like, before and after that, i havent had a single girl even bat an eyelid at me
BigOlSandal69@reddit
unfortunately women kinda want you to go after them. i feel like women don't tend to hit on guys first.
AlteredBagel@reddit
Not necessarily true. Women are just more subtle about it. But they will still have men they want to get with and they will put themselves in the position to talk to you and get you to ask them out.
BigOlSandal69@reddit
Yes, they might try to give you opportunities. But that's not really the same as hitting on someone.
AlteredBagel@reddit
That’s true, but recognizing those subtle signs can go a long way in increasing your success rate
BigOlSandal69@reddit
To be honest, I don't see how. You might get a better idea of whether a certain girl will reject you or not, but whether or not you recognize her "hints" doesn't change whether she likes you or not. She could like you and you think she doesn't or vice versa.
Unless you just ask out any girl who shows interest in you. Which I guess some people do, and that's fair.
Or if you mean that you can avoid asking a girl out if she gives you no hints in order to reduce the chances of rejection, then that's also true. But I don't recommend that because you never know for sure if someone likes you, and it's best to learn to handle rejection in life.
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Yeah, thats the problem im worried about. Low self esteem, so will never believe that a woman actually likes me enough for me to risk asking them out, im very blunt, and dont do hints well.
Its like the perfect cocktail for absolute failure
BigOlSandal69@reddit
you're probably gonna have to learn to accept rejection. it'll hurt a lot the first time but once it happens a lot you'll learn not to internalize it and maybe that will even heal your self esteem. i used to have a really shitty self esteem when i was younger too. i'm 16. when i was like 10 or so i definitely hated myself. things got progressively better but i still had a somewhat bad self esteem that i tried to bury in a million different ways until i was about 14 and had the most earth shattering heartbreak ever and it kind of caused me to change my entire life. I mean it's kind of complex and it would be a super long story to explain why those two things relate but now my self esteem is a lot better. it's more about self acceptance than self love, to me. I can look in the mirror and see that I have a little bit of fat under my chin or messy eyebrows or whatever else i used to be insecure about. (to be honest i feel like i was imagining a lot of it. looking back maybe i had body dysmorphia) and now these are things that i have accepted, and instead of obsessively hating it i just accept that that's how i am and who i am that's okay.
i think the same goes for rejection; its about accepting that someone doesn't want you and accepting who you are. it's easier said than done but try not to let the fact that some girl doesn't want you destroy you. just because she doesn't like you doesn't mean that you're worthless or that no one ever will want you or whatever else it might make you think. fear of rejection is not really about rejection. it's about what you take it to mean and the way you might internalize it. in reality it doesn't mean much. it means that you weren't her type. at most it means that you're conventionally unattractive. but even if you are, so what? life goes on. whether that girl wanted you or not doesn't change who you are or how attractive you are. you remain the same person at the same level of desirability before and after being rejected by some woman. so when you think about it, it doesn't even matter.
i know understanding this and learning to make the move is easier said than done. unlearning low self esteem was also more easily said than done for me. but it is absolutely possible. i used to be insanely depressed and anxious and self hating and i was even on meds for it at some point. but now i feel better and i'm happy with myself and my life.
finding a partner is very possible for you. but you will probably have to learn self confidence first in order to unlock that potential. as a bonus, that's also something that will probably make you more attractive to women.
i know i just told my whole life story but idk😭 i really wanted to say that to you
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I dont exactly hate myself anymore, im just scared that no one will like me in that way, i dont even think my girlfriend did tbh, she just needed a bodypillow. What i seem to have internalised is that no one really actually cares about me and they just say nice things so that their names wont be on the note i inevitably write, if someone says they like talking to me or like being around me, i instinctually dont believe them, it doesnt make logical sense to me, i think thats partly why my first relationship just... fizzled out more than anything else
BigOlSandal69@reddit
Then maybe you feel unlovable and should unlearn that.
boisterile@reddit
I was the same way and that stuff just gradually went away over time. I had only one gf by 17 as well but still ended up dating/hooking up throughout my 20s and now I'm about to get married at 34. Your age is the worst for self confidence but I promise when you get older you'll feel silly for ever having worried about it. As much as you can just try to be nice, friendly, outgoing, and confident (you'll be faking it at first) and force yourself into social situations and you'll be fine. Especially if you're going off to college or moving to a large city.
If you stay in shape, have good hygiene, a decent haircut, wear clothes that fit, be caring and pleasant to be around, etc there's always going to be women who are attracted to you. There's some who won't date short guys but plenty more who wouldn't care.
Also if your ego can handle it you can get on Tinder or one of those other apps. You have to spend a while on it and you'll feel like you're getting rejected a lot, but if you're shy or bad at reading signals it's much easier to meet people there when it flashes a big fucking sign that says "THEY LIKE YOU TOO". That's how I met most of my girlfriends when my self-esteem was bad
NavatoTV@reddit
Just passportmax lil bro
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I feel like that might not be a constructive way of going about dating
If i fail in my own country, on my own terms, in my own dating pool, then that says all i need to hear
travelerfromabroad@reddit
You haven't failed because you haven't tried, though?
Banana_Soreen@reddit
Correct, but my intuition is rarely wrong
Experimental121@reddit
solution: NTR them by any means necessary 🍇 🐺🐺
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I would feel bad
One_Client4409@reddit
'Happy couples' is an oxymoron, OP. And women remain beautiful only for a few years. But a sigma male like you will always remain an undergarment-soaker. Be happy, king!
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I really dont think im making anyones undergarments wet
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
You made mine wet
Banana_Soreen@reddit
I think you pissed yourself man
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Aw shi
Ockial@reddit
"Pussy-havers" , huh
Another addition to my vocabulary
lonevolff@reddit
I'm told they prefer utero-american
ThePassiveGamer@reddit
Femin-x
LilXansStan@reddit
“Adult woman fetish”
RectangularLynx@reddit
"boyfriend-free girl" tier phase
Uncle480@reddit
Are you really sure you want to add that to your vocabulary? Personally I'd rather forget it exists and move on with my life
Ockial@reddit
I didn't say I was gonna use it lol . Feels derogatory
Amathril@reddit
Well, it does have certain incel energy.
ReNitty@reddit
It’s actually very progressive
WhiteFenix207@reddit
Anon does not care what your gender is. If you have a womb you are a target
Ockial@reddit
I highly doubt he used the term as a gender-neutral option. He's a 4chan user after all
WhiteFenix207@reddit
Probably yeah
ricepharmacy@reddit
Garand thumb is that you
Illustrious-Back-944@reddit
“Get in the idiot squisher”
”Fine just stop pressuring me into it“
Allmychickenbois@reddit
Well this is terrifying
ShefBoiRDe@reddit
Subpar_diabetic@reddit
Most normal no-fap participators
PenguinProfessor@reddit
Isn't that part of the so-called point? I thought part of the non-memey purpose was to break the porn-fap-dopamine cycle and "re-naturalize" your thought/lust pattern so it could focus on real, non-digitalized
Zestyclose_Zone_9253@reddit
I am yet to have issues. I masturbate average once a day probably, sometimes none, sometimes twice, sometimes once. The times I feel myself fall down the coomer hole I do a reality check and just drop all porn for a week or two. Also randomly just stop masturbating for a week or two for no reason just because I don't feel like it.
Not to generalize, but I feel like if you have issues and become a complete coomer you have no one else to blame.
I know a guy who is a complete freak and after I realised he also tried to make the case in a group chat that masturbating 7+ times a day is completly normal and that most people do it. I don't care if you do that, but don't act as if that is the norm, neither is complete abstinance. Just have a healthy relation to gooning and you'll (probably) be happier.
emeraldkingpanda-kun@reddit
Creeper aw man
toomuchradiation@reddit
Yep, brain is pretty flexible so after few weeks of abstinence one would get an erection from the sight of a curvy tree.
-H_-@reddit
yeah but anon is still a bit pornbrained so hes not there yet
msto3@reddit
There's also the flatline part where you realize you've burned out your dopamine receptors so much that you feel nothing
CharlesEverettDekker@reddit
Strangely, I have the opposite effect. The first week I was getting horny all the time, now I don't get horny at all, just random boners through the evening and night. Bruh.
Aggressive_Concept@reddit
Funny enough, the French have an expression for that, it's "être en chien", which could be translated as "to be as a dog", meaning to be desperate for sex or money (usually).
CT0292@reddit
Just have a wank anon.