15 year old just told me she wants a project car...
Posted by masterchef81@reddit | projectcar | View on Reddit | 303 comments
As the title suggests, my 15 year old just dropped that she wants a project car to restore and have as her first car.
Now, I'm a capable DIY-er but I don't have a ton of automotive experience or knowledge. I'm sure her first choices (a '67 Corvette or 68 mustang) will be hard to find. What would be some good alternatives that would be fun to own, but relatively cheap and easy to find and work on?
TheMadAsshatter@reddit
69 to 83 Datsun Z/ZX. All of them use 6-cylinder L-series engines that are as easy to work on as an engine can get. Unless you stumble upon the extraordinarily rare Z432 with the SR20 engine. Some can still be found relatively cheap if you look hard enough, though they are becoming more pricey and harder to find.
They have a healthy aftermarket and community. A small handful of parts may be scarcely available, but you should have no trouble finding any major parts or assemblies.
To a lesser degree, you can say the same of any Datsun with a 4-cylinder L-series. A B210 hatchback comes to mind.
GrandDaddyDerp@reddit
I'd go with a 4.0 wrangler. Bullet proof motor, massive aftermarket for cheap parts, convertible, and not fast enough to get into much trouble.
ReputationGood2333@reddit
I know others are talking about the model... But are you really sure you want to go deep into this? What does a "project" mean to her? We're talking hundreds of not thousands of hours and even if you're doing the work yourself it will cost a bunch and take over your garage.
Then she might get addicted and attached and it can't leave her side, some don't, some just let it go, others like the project more than the completed product so they sell and start another project.
For me it was a great way to spend some time with my dad, my friends helped me build it, and they helped me clean it up before car shows. 38 years later, I still own and drive my first car. It's a very rare muscle car, and it reminds me of my youth. It's amazing and an albatross at the same time.
Enjoy!
TravellingTrinkets@reddit
My first car was a project MG. So I'm kinda biased but I recommend any of the old cheap British cars, they are a blast to drive and there are lots of parts and support available for them. Triumph, MG and Austin are good brands to look at.
WldChaser@reddit
I assume that you also took care of the legendary electrical issues
TravellingTrinkets@reddit
Yes all new wiring throughout the entire car and new connectors for everything.
Ambitious_Ad_9637@reddit
Nothing wrong with a dependable econobox, and a basket case you can learn as you go on in the driveway. Restos are rarely dependable, and the ones that are are no longer restos, but rebuilds. That’s good though. Keeps it parked and teaching you. Jeeps and old 4Runners are easy to work on, and the roofs come off. The 80s Z cars are kinda poor man’s corvettes and they are fun but not fast enough to overwhelm. Old RX7s are a ton of fun since they don’t have a redline, and the engine is simplicity itself.
bdnavalbuild@reddit
For fun little project car, I'd say 85'Fiero GT. As others have said, the Miata is the easiest, cheapest, anf safer option
jmanyea08@reddit
As amazing as that is I would tell her that 80s is the latest… I have no experience with older cars but so many parts aren’t produced anymore I think this is the ideal balance of cool old school and more of a slight fixer upper than a whole restomod
mylittlepony201@reddit
MIATA TIME
acab415@reddit
VW bug and the John Muir book How To keep Your Volkswagen Alive
hedgie06@reddit
get a running car and do the maintenance with her, then get a project motorcycle, takes up less space and learning the systems scales up to cars pretty well.
Street-Dependent-647@reddit
VW beetle? Definitely checks the boxes for cheap, easy to find, and easy to work on.
smithers3882@reddit
No way would i put a young driver in an air-cooled VW. Yes fun to restore, parts, etc... but an absolute deathtrap from a safety perspective. At least a 20-30yo Mustang or Miata would have a driver's airbag and ABS. God forbid the awesome young gal wrecks the car and gets hurt, Dad would never forgive himself. Same for the MG.
noladutch@reddit
Jesus quit being a baby. Any air bag car doesn't make it a good safe car.
A solid car driven respectfully and defensively is safe.
Teaching someone to wrench is part of the process the other is to teach them to not have their head up their ass while driving.
An air cooled bug is a truly good choice for anyone.
Not to mention that VWs bolt together. Need floor pans is wrenches. Dented quarter it unbolts. No welding skills needed.
Pull an engine less than an hour with a floor jack.
They are the perfect first car. Certainly better than a rusty unibody or a old Vette.
smithers3882@reddit
In no way did I say that an airbag makes it a “good safe” car. All things being equal, I would rather have my child in a car wirh an airbag over one without.
And even with great defensive driving skills one can’t underestimate the idiocy of the other driver. Of course we can’t have our kids driving M-1 tanks, but safety should be a factor in the decision unless the resto is literally just to have a show / Saturday morning car only. I drove a tow truck for long enough to see tragedy upon tragedy.
Crucial_memory@reddit
A 73 vw super was my first car/project with my dad; took 2 years starting at 14. We rebuilt the entire car, from engine to paint and everything in-between. Was an awesome experience, and got me (further) into cars and pushed me to go into my now engineering career.
Sold it shortly after I was able to drive it for the mentioned safety issues. It's a small death trap of a car, especially when talking about going away for college.
throwedoff1@reddit
I drove a '71 Super Beetle in high school and through six years of college (self-funded working 32 hours a week).
Street-Dependent-647@reddit
It’s not the safest, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the Camaro or Vette of the same year. My dad and I bought a 68’ beetle as a project and didn’t get it finished in time for high school but I drove the shit out of it in college. You can’t do too much stupid stuff with 1600cc and 60hp. On the other hand, I had a classmate when I was young who wrapped his Mustang around a tree being dumb and not understanding how much power and how little grip the car had at speed. He survived but it was definitely too much car for him at that age.
anna_lynn_fection@reddit
Neither would her choices, and neither would just about anything considered classic. A project car shouldn't be a daily driver in the end anyway, and so should have a lower chance of an accident. Also, a VW, with maybe 60HP, isn't going to have her hot rodding and showing off like something more powerful might.
TheBuzzyFool@reddit
This would be a super cool car to have in college, but finding one to restore in time for high school would be tricky.
Genesis801@reddit
MG may not be a horrible way to go. Moss Motors does a great job with their inventory for parts, and you can often times find a decent example for a fair price.
Interesting_Pilot595@reddit
i got rid of my 75 midget when i moved to my own place in 02 because the moss motors catalog was showing a lot of stuff was no longer available. previous owner did an emissions delete so i lucked out finding spitfire parts at a junkyard that worked. fun car but the flywheel/starter would jam occasionally and require a bit of rocking to free up.
superluke@reddit
My first car was a Triumph Spitfire, it's also a good option. Super easy to work on because the whole front opens up.
Still have the car 31 years later.
airplane_porn@reddit
I second the MGB. They’re cheap to purchase, the parts are reasonably priced, easy to work on. Downside is that their resale value is trash, so don’t expect to do any better than breaking even when you sell it (shit, I lost money on mine, even though I sold it in much better condition than when I bought it…).
trashlordcommander@reddit
I third this because I have a running driving MGB that needs work but isn’t a total bucket for sale so if you’re in or near Northern Mi, hit me up.. lol
ZombieLinux@reddit
I fourth the MG. Fond memories of wrenching with my dad on ours. I’ve finally got a Midget of my own to work on with my kids.
As long as the body is in good shape, everything else is manageable and a great introduction to simple machines.
PickleZygote@reddit
Is it a coupe by chance?!
trashlordcommander@reddit
Nope sorry! It’s a 77 conv.
andiamo12@reddit
I think this makes a decent condition MGB or even midget/sprite a good candidate. If you find one that has had the major rust problems dealt with you can improve it as you go, making it more reliable in the process.
I drove a BGT and it was a fun college car.
TigerDude33@reddit
If you let your kid drive a 60s Mustang you are an idiot. They are death traps. The gas tank is behind the rear seat.
Let her project a Miata or something.
DigBeginning6903@reddit
No.
krys2lcer@reddit
DO NOT give your teenager a classic car as a first car. 67 vette or 68 mustang are NOT going to have basic safety features that will save her life in an accident. I don’t even think 3 point safety belts were mandatory till the mid 70’s. Not to mention ABS or airbags or crumple zones, the list goes on. If serious about something to restore vehicles from the 90’s are considered classics now and they have most all of modern safety features that make a huge difference.
Ch1ldish_Cambino@reddit
Miata is always the answer
asrid28@reddit
The biggest thing to keep in mind when picking an old car to rebuild, is to look into the availability and affordability of parts, not just engine parts, body panels, trim pieces. Older Jeeps are good starter projects, especially ones from the 40s-60s. You can nearly any part for those old jeeps and they are very simple to work on and there's tons of repair and restoration literature out there for them.
Altruistic_Lock_5362@reddit
I am not sure where the location. But watch the BS of California audio. Care with make any DIY care into an impossible clean air car. Some of the very cool 60s are 64-68 Chevy Impala, 2 Dr or 4 door. 66,67,68belair 283 or 327 upgrade(different heads) a very cool hot family style car. Not overly expensive. I am just throwing some ideas out there.
Impossible_Bison_994@reddit
I would recommend Camaro, Firebird, and Mustangs from the mid-to-late eighties as a good choice. There are still plenty of them for a reasonable price; they are just now beginning to rise in value. They are fairly simple to work on, easy to find replacement/reproduction parts, and have lots of aftermarket upgrades available.
AdvertisingOld3878@reddit
Get her a old Jeep with zero electronics so you will have a vehicle after the apocalypse
FreemansAlive@reddit
Mazda Miata. Always the answer
rudbri93@reddit
foxbody mustang
democracywon2024@reddit
C4 Corvette is less practical, but in a lot of ways that serves as a lesson. Plus, you can get in a lot less trouble with just one passenger rather than 3.
CastorrTroyyy@reddit
Bingo. Relatively cheap, long production period, easy aftermarket available. Pretty much YouTube videos for every mechanical issue in them
Rio_Snake@reddit
Uh have you seen the price of a fox body in the last 5 years?
CastorrTroyyy@reddit
The are good deals that pop up every so often, gotta be on the lookout for a beater. Probably a couple thousand.
TangerineRomeo@reddit
I owned a 72 Cutlass but I've never heard of a "Crew Cab" applied to a Cutlass. Do you mean a 4-door?
rudbri93@reddit
Yarp
VegetableExitTheRoom@reddit
poopfeast@reddit
Feel like this is the right answer. Becoming a classic, parts are available, powerful cars for the time but not absurd unless you make it that way
mortalcrawad66@reddit
A Ford Crown Victoria. Mustang or F-150 parts swap right in, very fun car to drive, easy and cheap to work on
KitchenPalentologist@reddit
Talk about a wide variety!
dicrydin@reddit
I obviously don’t know your daughter, but YouTube and media makes wrenching more romantic and satisfying than it actually is. It’s pretty frustrating at times. I’d be careful to get a big project, unless you’re ok adopting it when she says “this isn’t fun.” I have no idea your expectations budget or her ambition, but I think smaller projects that are running are best. A 50 year old restoration probably isn’t a great idea for a first project. Either you’re going to need to pony up a bunch of cash or not be afraid to fabricate. I’d get a 10-30 yr old Japanese car that has lots of aftermarket support and forums (civic, celica, 86) that needs normal maintenance and wear items and maybe a little elbow grease to clean it up. Fix it up and if she’s not in love with it flip it. You’ll have a much better understanding of where you are comfortable in the grand scheme of things, also giving a 16yr old an old high hp rwd sports car is a bad idea, No ABS, traction control, airbags or crumplezones make for a ride that I wouldn’t trust a teen to dive anywhere except a pasture.
Additional-Iron-8078@reddit
Bro I’m 16 and I somehow convinced my dad to loan me some money to buy a celica and it is one of the most frustrating things I have ever done but also one of the most fun
omg_1mz@reddit
Yes! My 94 is a pain in the ASS but a great car
Additional-Iron-8078@reddit
mumbling "stupid mf bolt come out!!!"
omg_1mz@reddit
Me at my wheel bearing.
the snap ring so dirty I couldn't see 💪
STRAIKERWTF@reddit
This is too true man
cybertruckboat@reddit
Type 1 fun is fun at the moment like a game. Type 2 fun is only appreciated after the fact. It's frustrating and more rewarding.
Additional-Iron-8078@reddit
lol fr
justrog19@reddit
DDE is so much fun to watch, but Lambos are a little expensive.
holysbit@reddit
My advice is to get an older jeep. Tons of support, easy to get parts for, and easy to work on. I think they are cool and fun too, but that’s subjective
LettuceTomatoOnion@reddit
Came here to say this. So many parts available out there and you can buy an entire new tub if you have to for under $5k. Not to mention $300 fenders everywhere, wiring harnesses, etc. etc.
Get a really old one and convert it to disk brakes and a dopey, but reliable, engine.
buckytoofa@reddit
For real when starting out and with limited tools it can be a huge pain in the ass. Start with a broken push mower. Then a broken riding mower, then go from there. Get dirty, get frustrated, break a fastener or 2, smell like grease and gasoline, break a part that costs more to replace than the whole project, encounter a part that will not remove with ease. THEN TELL ME YOU WANT A PROJECT CAR FOR FUN.
hcp815@reddit
Ha! Was loosening 17yo exhaust brackets this weekend. Rust in the face. Slipped socket and knuckles bouncing off metal at Mach 2. A couple seized bolts and a snapped nut. Good times.
_spectre_@reddit
I feel like those are good steps if you wanna wrench in general, but it also sounds like a quick way to turn someone off. It's honestly a 50/50 shot and the only way to see what works is to know the person. Some will be driven by the enjoyment of just fixing things, some will only be driven by fixing something they are passionate about.
That said, I wouldn't start with a roller for a first project. Everyone here is right. I started with a solid running Miata in 2015. Didn't know a lick about cars. Almost ten years later there are very few bolts I haven't touched. The unibody is about the only thing that hasn't been replaced on it.
4boltmain@reddit
This was going to be my advice too. Any project from that era is going to be a huge task. I would definitely recommend something more rewarding for the short term. Fix up a car and let her drive it in a parking lot and then make the flip. Let her keep some cash and then move on to another. Every gearhead has dreamed about restoring a muscle car, and very few of us ever have.
shadow247@reddit
Mine sits on the stands for weeks while I fiddle with this or that. Everything takes 3x as long as you think. Get your garage organized and setup before you even think about it. Half my wasted time is chasing tools and equipments that are scattered around the garage.
Fragrant_Lobster_917@reddit
HEY GUYS!
Yeah. You hit a snag and learn why mechanics learn 101 ways to swear... but the after is always worth it and it's why we all love it lmao
NutzNBoltz369@reddit
Get a Miata for her.
Fairly basic. Plentiful parts. Pretty cheap. Reliable. Fun.
Aaron707@reddit
If it has to be a classic car, I vote for an old early 1970's Dodge Dart. They can still be found somewhat affordable and parts are sorta OK prices. I daily drove a 1972 Dart with the slant-6 motor. Great all around classic and cheap/easy to maintain. Be sure to retrofit some disc brakes on the front as most came with drums and modern cars can stop far better than the old iron.
Sea_End9676@reddit
MIATA
jjbeo@reddit
Get a Miata and work on that, it's a very fun car and super easy to work on. But you might be worried about the safety of one
Zelio_Zeph_Sorcery@reddit
I was the kid in this story. Watched YouTube videos on restoring classics and wanted to do the same when I was 16. Dad had no experience beyond doing oil changes. We had a 69 gmc c1500 sitting out back that hadn’t moved in 12 years. I made the decision to throw a battery in it and see if it spun. (Bad idea I know.) It took months of work and learning to get it going, and another year to rebuild the engine, but we did it all ourselves and now work on a variety of car related projects when I visit home. I’d recommend anything simple and cheap. Old trucks, 90s era econoboxes, and anything with large production numbers. Stay away from the niche stuff for your first project. (My dad and I are restoring not one but two 3000gts and finding parts is a pain)
Jasonh123_@reddit
Early 2000s Honda Accord. It won’t be a “restoration” but you can learn a lot about working on cars from buying a reliable beater
BotherPuzzleheaded50@reddit
Miata, foxbody, ef/eg/ek, e36/e46/e39, gti, can all be fun learner project cars. But be willing to do at least half the work, and consider she may lose interest after a few cold nights full of busted knuckles and oily hair.
Quercas@reddit
My first car was a project car, I can’t imagine where I’d be right now if my first car was a 1990 Toyota Camry. I’d probably be a millionaire, probably be married and have a bunch of kids.
Having to work on that piece of shit all night just so I could drive it to school or work in the morning was a fucking nightmare.
Get your kid something reliable and safe, have a project car as a backup not a daily
jorgeyo716@reddit
Gbodys are great. And most of the upgrade parts are plug and play with no need to cut and weld unless your back halving the car.
djsadiablo@reddit
G Body all the way! You can get a decently priced Monte Carlo for around $2-3k that can be easily restored and parts are plentiful.
____uwu_______@reddit
Why not a fun tuner or something? Track down a worthless d series civic or a dodge neon and build that. Cheap cars, cheap parts, aftermarket is still there
noladutch@reddit
I would try and steer her in the vw bug direction.
Plenty to choose from easy and cheap. The lack of weight of components means no cherry picker. You can drop the engine in less than an hour with a floor jack.
Floor pans bolt in. They are truly great first project cars.
After that move up to where you need real tools like welders and cherry pickles and all that.
wncexplorer@reddit
Pickup a CJ-5, up to a YJ.
DrCueMaster@reddit
A 68 mustang would be a great choice. They are very simple cars, and I guarantee there's a YouTube tutorial for anything that she would want to do to it. They even sell new Mustang bodies.
No_Standard9804@reddit
What is your budget?
dukejcdc@reddit
No better project car than an old VW beetle!
monkeyman1947@reddit
Buy something from a non-salt state. Cars that aren’t rusty are easier to fix.
furyfx@reddit
Whatever you find, ensure it's running and driving. You can modest repairs and upgrades as you go. She picked out some extremely expensive models. I'd go with either a Chevy S10 or C1500.
BroccoliNormal5739@reddit
Two daughters got their first cars. It's like they are two different people...
Daughter one has the super power of being able to identify any year Mustang in traffic. We went with a 2000 Mustang, V6, 5 speed. Rebuilt everything together. She added lots of custom touches.
Second daughter knew what she wanted, "teal BMW convertible". A little harder to find, but worth the wait. She went totally stock in a restoration of a 1997 318i. So much fun!
I would do the Mustang over again in a heartbeat. Easy to work on. Parts are cheap and available. The BMW was very high quality but more expensive to keep.
mybeardisawesome@reddit
My 17yr old son hit me with this when he and I were looking for his first car. Ended up buying him a 90 C1500 with a 400SBC and manual transmission. Its a frankenstein of a motor, it has a 350TBI top end on it so trying to get it running right has been a bit difficult. ECU is looking for sensor input that the motor will never provide. It running and driving but when coming to stop with the clutch in, the RPM drops to zero and back up to 800ish and sometimes it will stall. Other than that, it absolutely loves smoking the tires in almost any gear if you get on it. It needs a little body work, some interior pieces, and a few other odds and ends yet.
How we landed on this truck
I let him pick. We talked about his likes(classic muscle cars and trucks, we've been going to a weekend long classic car show every year since he was born and I've been going since I was 8). He made a Facebook just to use marketplace and would send me vehicles that he found. We'd talk about them and what they needed/would need and if it would be a good buy for the money plus the repairs.
So far working on this truck has led to significantly more repairs than I initially thought but it's old and didn't live the easiest life but its been great working on it with my son and teaching him how to do things.
BurnedLaser@reddit
Fiero! Cool, different, shockingly safe, easy to work on for a mid-engine car, and parts are pretty cheap!
The '84 had issues with the coolant hoses running to the front getting damaged by improper lifting, which would overheat the 4cyl and cause it to perform old Ferrari activities.
The '88 GT has the best suspension geometry.
These are pretty easy to swap a 3800 into, and lots of people elect to swap in the 3800SC for that extra oomph! The 3600 is trash and the Iron Duke 4cyl is gutless
aroundincircles@reddit
If it was my daughter (and I have 4 of them, one which is 15) I would get something more modern and safer to drive. I know it’s not cool or sexy, but an early 2000’s Honda civic has a huge aftermarket, tons of cheap parts, is reliable and easy to work on.
Things to consider: Insurance What it will cost to fix when she hits something at slow speeds. Etc
I bought my daughter a 2001 S10 blazer, we live in a rural area, and she wants to lift it, big tires, off road bumpers, etc. all of which is cheap and easy to do.
Carrera_996@reddit
Any car enthusiast that has been eyeballing pony and muscle cars is going to disown her father if he sticks her in a Honda. Maybe a Civic-del-sol or an S2000. That's it, though.
aroundincircles@reddit
My daughter wants a camero, told her she can when she can afford the insurance on it. The insurance on a camero is 6x what it is on the Blazer.
Carrera_996@reddit
A Blazer is not a Honda. Blazers are fun.
PositiveAtmosphere13@reddit
One of the affordable project cars now are Pontiac Fieros. Guys are doing an engine swap with the 3800sc V6 engine. You end up with a fun to drive two seat mid engine sports car. That's not too expensive. And with you tube videos showing step by step instructions.
They make me think of my V8 Vega.
assicus_clappicus@reddit
I completely agree with a fox body mustang. Perfect in my opinion. You can find examples that are still mechanically sound, that you guys can work on to make nicer and nicer, for really fair pricing. Parts are readily available in all budget ranges. The 5.0’s power is 100% manageable and as she gets older she’d easily be able to add power whether she wants to go NA or forced induction. Just don’t go convertible, sounds cool to a 15 year old but it’s an absolute fucking nightmare getting old convertibles to work properly, seal properly, etc. plus a thief is only a razor blade away from your possessions. Fox body mustang has my vote 🤙
MrShnBeats@reddit
Volvo 240
HeadOfMax@reddit
Budget?
Does she need it as a daily?
poorboychevelle@reddit
This. My first car was a Corolla because I needed it to get to work so I could afford to pay the gas and insurance on it.
First can needs to be dead reliable unless you really like picking kids up on the side of the road (can't thank my father enough for the dozen times he's done it when I was younger and still figuring project car life. The secret s AAA)
Admirable-Leopard-73@reddit
Your first car would fit in the trunk of my first car: 1967 Pontiac Bonneville.
noldshit@reddit
Lets be honest here... You always total your first car.
With that in mind, sit down and have a chat.
"Look, this the reality. You want to build something up, lets go but lets start with something we can learn on. If it goes well, we sell it once done and put the money towards something nicer. Its how all car people get their start."
STICH666@reddit
There are tons of rolling shell examples of '68 mustangs out there for very reasonable money. It's also one of the most documented chassis ever modified so you'll never be lost in doing anything. you'll never be struggling for parts no matter how obscure. That car is an excellent choice.
sailingthr0ugh@reddit
VW Beetle and get her the book “How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive” by John Muir for Christmas. Dirt cheap, amazing availability of aftermarket parts and resources, and you’ll never stop fixing it. Plus, as a parent, it’s not fast and due to the cuteness people notice you on the road.
mathewMcConaughater@reddit
Seconding, they’re small and simple engines, not overly complicated cars either
chiphook@reddit
1st gen miata.
BWFTW@reddit
You can get running inline six automatic first gen mustangs for not too much. Then you could spend time fixing small things and learning the basics. And after the car is cleaned up look at building a motor for it and swapping it.
WldChaser@reddit
I would suggest that the two of you shop around for something a little more recent that will not require a ton of work or parts. There are a lot of handyman specials out there, just make sure you know just how much work will be needed to get it road worthy.
feelingsupersonic@reddit
Biased opinion: good condition Porsche 944 (non turbo)
Reliable, easy to work on, pretty safe, real driver's car. Not enough power to get into big trouble with, but it rewards you for skillful driving. And it has a presence that you won't get from 99% of cars on the road today.
randouser8765309@reddit
A Miata. Depending on what you mean by relatively cheap. Keep an eye out for one that hasn’t been botched or previously modified. Because with some suspension upgrades it would be one hell of a fun car for your daughter. And an appropriate first project car.
Any 60’s mustang is gonna be like 25k plus for a coupe where I’m from in condition worth driving around. More for the corvette. You don’t want a large project for your daily. More something you can plan for weekend projects.
feelingsupersonic@reddit
This is a good answer, on paper. But it's clear that the girl wants something classic with a certain image (at least, that's the direction she is leaning in). But no matter how much we circlejerk the Miata, it is not always the answer. Even though it may be one of the best choices, there needs to be an emotional connection.
Ididntdoeeit@reddit
67 Corvette, LMAO
IamNotTheMama@reddit
Split Window, 427 FI
randouser8765309@reddit
I mean they are absolutely fantastic cars. I’d put ae86 or a 240sx for imports too but I see less of them in decent condition. And ae86 is getting ridiculously expensive. Built those too and they’re a great first project if you can find one in decent shape.
Mini Cooper S or an acura rsx, civic, etc. too but neither are rwd which the two original examples had in common.
Someone else said fox body which could be a good option if she likes the styling and again if they can find one that hasn’t been botched or rotting in a driveway.
Novogobo@reddit
back in the 90s my friend fixed up a 68 mustang. not a full on restoratation but took a not so great looking runner with some serious issues and made it pretty and roadworthy. it wasn't so cheap and my friend is really skilled, like now people pay him to cut up their old porsches. finding a fixer 68 mustang now is going to cost a fucking fortune even for something with fatal frame damage.
dlax6-9@reddit
It's always a Miata for stuff like this now.
thurniesauna@reddit
It’s the best answer
2Fly4Me17@reddit
M iata I s A lways T he A nswer
StelioKontossidekick@reddit
Came here to write this as well, there's a good bit of Miata fans that will welcome you, help you find parts, and encourage you along your way.
Ok-Needleworker-419@reddit
If you don’t have a ton of car experience, get something newer that needs a good detail and maybe some basic maintenance and that’s it. A restore will overwhelm both of you.
TangerineRomeo@reddit
Probably way outside what she is thinking, but Honda Elements are quirky and grow on you. There is a huge community of Element owners that help each other with troubleshooting and repairs. ...hope you aren't laughing too much by now, but either way, sounds like you've got great journey ahead. Good luck to you both.
OutlandishnessOne316@reddit
I haven't seen it listed but a chevy s10/gmc Sonoma is a fun one to build and have fun with.
leadfoot_mf@reddit
67 vette and 68 mustang are easy to find its being able to afford it is the problem
MrAlcoholic420@reddit
NA Miata!!
Not_your_cheese213@reddit
I be like sounds like you need a job!
Ironbasher1@reddit
V.W.bug! Before anybody laughs there is still more aftermarket support for these than many other cars.
stoned_banana@reddit
I'll give you a decent volkswagen rabbit. Engine and transmission not installed but included
prairie-man@reddit
use this father-daughter time to make that decision together. Unfortunately, the local car show season is over the 2024,
Learn to recognize what she is interested in: sports cars, muscle cars, coupes, convertibles, trucks, etc.
and... nNo better time than now - to have conversations about cost. Cost to purchase, repair, modify, insure....
obi1kenobi1@reddit
Depends where you are, in a good chunk of the country local car show season is just getting ramped up because it’s been too hot to go outside for eight months.
Secret-Ad-7909@reddit
Also holiday parades
Tack_it@reddit
This, they start at 10 here instead of 9 in the summer but cars and coffee events go year round here
PumpLogger@reddit
Was just about to suggest this actually.
IneedaWIPE@reddit
OK, with "her" "first car" "at 15", the selection criteria must have:
Safety. Get something newer with airbags. Accidents with inexperienced drivers is a thing.
Reliability: get something that won't ever leave her stranded. Additionally she may not want to wrench on it when she is a junior or senior in high school.
Not a lot of effort to get it on the road: she'll want to be driving it when she gets her license soon. A new motor or tranny and a paint job is a good short term project. Get something that will have a high confidence level of getting it on the road by the time she starts driving.
IF you live in one of the salty road areas you may want to go out of state to find something that hasn't seen salt. Not only does salt rust the body but it also causes problems with the electrical which can be most difficult to troubleshoot.
IF it were me I'd get a first gen crv or rav.
BabyStepsWest@reddit
VW Bug! Cheap to acquire easy to work on tons of aftermarket parts large YouTube library.
2fatmike@reddit
This is 100% opposite of muscle car but ive seen some great vw bug projects come from family projects. Everything is available to fix or restore these cars. For the most part theyre affordable. Its really hard to find a muscle car that hasnt already been modded to a pile of parts or rusted out so itd cost a ton to fix. Maybe an old jeep would also be a choice for me. Fiberglass tub so theres no rust and a frame to start with. Lots of options. Just keep in mind that rust repair is very expensive and takes some skill to make it last.
ThisHandleIsBroken@reddit
Just want to add that an old VW can be very easy and satisfying
Prudent_Prior5890@reddit
The worst financial decision I ever made was buying a project truck as my first vehicle.
ITYSTCOTFG42@reddit
I would suggest applying for a part-time job in a tuning shop. IDK what the age restrictions are in your state but in her position I would even volunteer to clean up or whatever for free just to gain the knowledge.
chatapokai@reddit
Very cute and I hope this become as a great bonding experience for the both of you, however the cars she wants were more attainable 15-25 years ago in a condition where a high schooler can own and maintain them. Today you're looking at 25 to 35 Grand to get a running one that would be safe enough for a soon-to-be 16 year old to drive around in. Anything price wise that would be suitable to jump into would be a rotting frame that would need a bottom-up restoration most likely. At this point I would look for something a little more modern with more parts available. I've seen people list miatas and stuff which are a fantastic starting off point, but maybe you can kind of get to know her a bit more and see what she's into and what you guys can agree to own. Maybe she gets a regular day-to-day car and you guys can restore a classic mustang on the weekends or something as her project car.
masterchef81@reddit (OP)
Thank you! This was kind of what I expected. 60s era cars were getting tough to find when I was a kid...
pistonsoffury@reddit
You can still find 1965-1970 Mustang coupes for under $10k in running/driving condition that will need some light restoration work to be nice drivers. If she's into 60's muscle cars then lean into that and stoke the flame.
Sea-Juggernaut-7397@reddit
I have a '68 and in stock form I can't really recommend it for daily driving in modern traffic.
Certainly not for a new driver or a kid.
The brakes on a modern anything are a zillion times better than the stock 1960s brakes, and people don't realize how fast they're actually stopping in traffic every day. The non-power drum brakes are like a hard workout on the leg press machine at the gym if you need to try to stop quickly.
The steering is sloppy even when all the parts are new.
The trunk floor is the top of the gas tank and there's no divider to stop gas from flooding the passenger compartment in a rear end accident.
The seats will give you a spinal injury in a rear-end accident. No head restraints (that's what the head rests on modern seats are actually called) mean guaranteed whiplash, and the latch that holds the seatback up is weak and will break in an accident.
If you're lucky enough to have a car with the optional 3-point seatbelts, those aren't terrible although they're primitive.
My '68 has modern (2011-2013) Mustang GT front and rear disc brakes and has been converted to power brakes so it's actually not bad, and I did the Borgeson integral power steering box upgrade to get rid of the sloppy, leaky non-integral power steering system so it steers as good as a 1970s car. The seats went out on the curb and it has E46 BMW M3 power seats and seatbelts in it. Still haven't done anything about the gas tank/trunk floor.
I honestly wouldn't let a kid of mine out on the road in a stock 1960s car. Their safety just doesn't measure up. It's not worth the risk.
A Miata or a Fox body Mustang are great ideas. They're modern enough - parts are plentiful and cheap, and they are safe even in stock form.
If you're dead set on a 1960s car, do all the upgrades to the safety stuff before they can drive it.
pistonsoffury@reddit
Agree on the brakes, steering, seats and seat belts as basic restoration upgrades at this point.
Labeling a Foxbody or Miata safe though - debatable at best. You get t-boned in an intersection in a fox body, miata or '68 Mustang and you're probably not walking away from that in any of them.
EC_CO@reddit
Highly agree. Mustang coupes were literally made in the millions and the aftermarket parts availability is like no other, making a more affordable overall restoration possible. I was gifted a '70 Barracuda and the parts costs are killing me. I'll be $30k+ deep for just a decent driver quality, it would be 1/3 less if it was a Mustang.
pistonsoffury@reddit
Ugh I know, Mopars are stupid expensive while Mustangs are basically like lego sets for adults at this point and comparatively really cheap.
EC_CO@reddit
Yeah, it must be real fun trying to find some of those unobtainium parts for the wagon
philipdaehan@reddit
To add on to this, just get a regular car, but do all the possible work on it you can. Say you pick up a 12 year old Honda.
- Lube the brake pins.
- Do a trans oil change (drain & fill NOT flush)
- Flush the radiator (from piss yellow to clear distilled water, than new coolant)
- Swap the motor mounts
Tons of work you can do on a running and "new to her" car, to make it safer, learn about cars, and bond throughout it.
lifesaberk@reddit
MG’s make great project cars
Soulmighty@reddit
A good project car should be something cheap and popular. Have lots of aftermarket support with Lego like ability so you can substitute parts from different year. A Honda is what you want. Sure it be great to get a old Corvette or a mustang to rebuild but that requires money, expertise and time. Not to mention really expensive if you guys mess up something. I would feel horrible if I messed up a true classic mustang. I wouldn't bat an eye if I messed up on a cheap little Honda. You guys should work on it together and develop mechanical skills than step up to the mustang or Corvette.
Zealousideal-Kale-71@reddit
1992 - 2002 camaro or firebird, hell maybe a vette, but that's more sketchy for a teen.
And_there_was_2_tits@reddit
Depends how nitty gritty you want to get with it.
It would probably be much much easier to get a more modern car, I’m partial to Honda, and focus on customizing it. Headlights, suspension, exhaust, paint, wheels, etc.
Agreeable_Passage707@reddit
Get an old japanese car! Reliable and buildable. Could be a honda (biased to del sol) or a drift missile or even a VIP build. You can buy a $4k-$10k car and mod it up to 300-400 bhp and feel AWESOME while saving money and learning all the basics.
My advice is wait till spring- go to some shows and meets and really check all the cars out and deep dive into them before swimming into a potential money pit.
An american muscle car will be fun to rebuild but extremely costly and take a veeeeery long time and deep intimate knowledge of classic cars.
Hideyagrl@reddit
Me,my daughter and son all restored a 66 mustang!!! It was honestly the best bonding ever, then we sold it and bought a c10 that my son and I restored and sold. Would really like another project but we have quite a few dirt bikes and a quad that takes up a lot of our time.
JEStucker@reddit
Figure out a budgetary number, triple that, because project cars are money pits.
estimate how long you want to take fixing it to what point, double that time.
Redbeard6665@reddit
I’d say foxbody mustang, or 70s nova or a late 70s malibu/gbody
Double-Wallaby-19@reddit
Definitely don’t squash that dream! That time together would be the thing you and her will remember for both of your lifetimes!
However a full restore or even just making a project car road worthy and safe is a huge undertaking!! She’s probably going to be driving in a year? I wanted my kids daily driver to be a more modern car with safety features such as air bags and ABS. I bought an older Lexus LX470 for their first car. Heavy, body on frame, not a fast car by any stretch of the imagination, ABS, traction control, etc. Made sure it had new tires.
Go to car shows together to build on the interest. Maybe she’d be into off-roading. Building or at least equipping a 4Runner to handle some trails or beach driving……… that’s definitely doable for weekend shade tree mechanic and likely safer than a Honda tuner car.
That’s awesome that she’s interested in something you can share together!!!
overindulgent@reddit
Grab a c4 corvette. Great sounding engine, tons of room under the hood so wrenching is easy, parts are plentiful and cheap, plentiful how to videos on YouTube and you can get a decent one for under $10k. Buy a running c4 for like $8k. Then start upgrading things. Upgrade the brakes and brake lines. Upgrade/refresh the suspension. Put in a new stereo with car play. An LS3 would be the perfect motor swap as well.
biggirlsause@reddit
I think a good starting point would be to buy a cheap engine off of Facebook marketplace, and buy an engine stand. I think doing an engine tear down would definitely be a good starting point, low cost of entry, and definitely more mechanically involved, especially putting it back together.
TheSharpieKing@reddit
My kid was the same. We had a bad stretch in her tween years and were doomed to family counseling when she announced that she wanted to fix up a car prior to her getting her license at 16. I said great, I’m all in, and she found a 1979 Alfa Romeo Spider on Craigslist for three grand.
Bought it with her own money, and for that price, you can imagine it was quite the project. We spent about a year working on it together on the weekends off and on and it was a great bonding experience that totally healed our relationship. A big bonus was that she learned how to drive a stick!
But as the time came to actually get her license, we reached an impasse. She needed something reliable that she could drive on modern freeways, and her mom was insisting on safety features like a rollbar or seat belts since there is no airbags in a 1979 Spider.
It was her decision to throw in the towel, and flip it. She wound up buying a Miata in pretty decent shape and is now happily on the road and safe on the freeway when she has to commute from her mom‘s house to me which is about an hour away.
Financially, I lost about three grand on the deal all told, but she is doing great now and we are getting along better than ever, and I look at it as much more pleasant than tedious hours in a family therapist office would’ve been.
Ask_Ari@reddit
Build a K-swapped AWD Boosted Civic Hatch and teach her that it's ok to make grown men cry
Recent-Leave-8526@reddit
SN95 Mustangs are affordable and fun with plentiful parts and easy to work on. At this point, they’re also 20+ years old. Can’t believe I’m saying that. LOL
CoastTraditional1596@reddit
I’m biased because I have one but dude… an old civic. I drive a 95’ Del Sol, and not only is it cool looking, it’s insanely fun to drive while being relatively slow and safe, and it’s a civic platform meaning it’s INFINITELY customizable and easy to work on.
Hairy-Consequence565@reddit
DSM
Weak_Credit_3607@reddit
While restoring a valuable classic sounds like a great idea. It's not an ideal first project. The highly prized project vehicle will put you in the poor house and in a hurry. Settle for something comon and not too rough of shape. Maybe a dent or 2 and a few rust spots in easier to repair places. Something that's already drivable is a bonus. If all goes well, then consider something that's more of a challenge. Most projects go on for years, finding the correct parts or performance parts if that's the direction you decided to go. Unless you have money falling off a tree, then by all means go off the deep end, lol
sohcgt96@reddit
Sometimes its not about seeking out the exact thing you want, but finding something you can get. Especially if you don't want to drive halfway across the country for it.
The thing you both need to know before getting into this is that its going to take a LOT, and I mean a LOT more time and money than you think. Restoring a car isn't a work a couple nights a week on it for the summer and you're done, couple thousand dollars project. Working on it 3-4 nights a week plus weekend time even for experienced people a restoration job can take over a year. If it needs a lot of patching on the body or custom work, double that time.
Great example, my friend and his dad did a '72 Chevelle 4 speed a couple years ago. Both had done cars before. Has the equipment to paint and has done several cars himself. They just ordered a crate motor and brand new transmission since it was just a frame, body from the firewall back, and suspension when they bought it. Cost over $30K to fully do it and over a year working on it several days a week.
OneBag2825@reddit
Yeah, no- stick with something that will always have parts, tech knowledge, and easy to work on- older civic or Corolla/Camry.
Let her buy the first gm muscle car
ZANIESXD@reddit
BMW E46 with stick
earmenau@reddit
Fixing an old rust bucket can be an absolute nightmare, always buy the nicest, most complete car for a project. This is the cheapest way.
Gnarleeee@reddit
Miata or old 4pot/6pot bmw. I’m 26, own 2 properly operational e36, and learned everything from some 16yo on YouTube…. These things are legos.
UmichChris@reddit
This! I’ve had 5 E36s over the years. Easy to work on. Parts everywhere. Tons of info & support everywhere too. Prices on the cars are going up tho….
Remarkable_Skirt_231@reddit
With my wedding next year I’m getting nervous that I won’t be able to get one before they are too pricey. Miss my 328is so much, but I think I’ll have to go M3 coupe when I get around to it.
Electronic_Elk2029@reddit
2001 Jetta
immortalsteve@reddit
If you play your cards right, this could be the single most formative experience of her life and lead to a lifetime of benefit! My grandfather taught me the basics and I am building my own car now and do my own maintenance to save a ton of money. Your daughter could take the incredible amount of skills you will learn together in to any number of career paths.
No_Bad2428@reddit
Lol. She has good taste, I'll give her that.
masterchef81@reddit (OP)
Lol, yeah. I had to suppress a bit of a chuckle when she said that's what she wanted.
Me too kiddo, me too...
brybry631@reddit
Maybe she just wants to spend time with you. Keep it simple and buy a fairly good car.
centstwo@reddit
Don't get a MINI (BMW). I've been working on Hondas and Acuras. Now we have a MINI and everything is annoying. For example, the plastic, oil filter cap is at an angle on top of the engine. Removing the cap gives the transmission and suspension an oil bath. Easy to clean up, but what a mess.
I've had fun working on a 2008 Acura TSX. I'm looking for a 2007-8 Acura TL for myself.
Good Luck
lurker-1969@reddit
I would consider something less than a "restoration" as a project in your case. I'm a pretty handy guy with experience, a great shop and 2 daughters. I did my 69 Z/28 RS in 2 years in all my "spare time" Ground up through paint myself. I've been driving that car 24 years or so and am very proud of my accomplishment. At that, the car was a rolling shell with a pile of parts and original engine and running gear in really good nearly rust free shape. It is absolutely a huge, long term project. I find it tough to believe that a gal that age would stay focused for the time required. Teen girls grow up and move on pretty darn quick. Mine are 32 and 30 now. I'm getting ready to feed their horses they had as kids as I write this. Damn Arabians live a long time !
I think you have a worthy idea. Just pick a project that is more short term and less involved. Then maybe move on to 1963 Corvette for the next one.
InternetSalesManager@reddit
Hard no. Get started with an already used reliable vehicle and learn from there.
whiskey_formymen@reddit
start with late 80s early 90s honda, stick.
Its_me_i_swear@reddit
Jeeps are good first cars. Fairly easy to work on, easy to find in any condition or price.
tiedyeladyland@reddit
Especially if you can find a YJ with the AMC straight-six that just needs TLC vs a complete overhaul
Complex_Management87@reddit
I did a ‘71 SuperBeetle with my oldest. Parts are super cheap and it’s (relatively) easy to work on, though continuing maintenance is a bit of a pain. The accelerator and clutch cables are a constant problem. Good experience for both of us, though. It’s fun to drive…zippy because of its size, but not so much power that it’ll get a driver into real trouble. My only requirement for a project car was it had to have the correct number of pedals (3).
nmyron3983@reddit
Any G body GM. Monte Carlo, Chevy Malibu, Olds Cutlass and the like. They should be pretty plentiful in various yards, parts are handy and they accept small block Chevy motors.
badluser@reddit
Buy and old WRX or STI, get her an anxiety port. Walaah, you'll always have something to work.
Rjgom@reddit
get a sleeper for insurance rates. anything known hot is going to be expensive to insure. but you can mod it however you like.
jmeesonly@reddit
Miyata.
TommyTheCat89@reddit
Why not make a project car out of a 90s or early 2000s civic? Cheaper and easier to find parts, more modern safety equipment, and not a death box on wheels that a brand new driver is whipping around cars that people need to support entire families.
daydai76@reddit
Also 1975 - 1979 Chevrolet Nova is affordable..... For now.
bogieboy307@reddit
And totally rad!
Tiemujin@reddit
MIATA!
moparguy_alec@reddit
Can’t go wrong with an old pick up truck. Full size or mini, American or import, just have fun with it. Trucks are never not useful
arenajumper@reddit
I bought my comanche project car when I was 15. My dad knows nothing about working on cars. I had to learn everything myself (until going to automotive school at 16). I even daily drove it for a year. My dad was supportive but never tried to help. Sit down with her discuss budget, time frame, how feasible it is to drive every day, and what her end goal is for a classic. Then help her and give her free reign of the direction of the build. I hated nothing more than my dad trying to control what mods I did despite not helping me at all or knowing why I was doing those mods.
AlejoMSP@reddit
Do it. I’m waiting for the day. She couldn’t say it soon enough. She’s eleven and the second one is 9. They show zero interests in any of my hobbies.
I’m waiting for the day.
yakkowitt@reddit
Karmann Ghias, Bugs or Buses (air-cooled stuff). 70s Japanese cars like the Datsun 240Z, 260Z, 280Z, 510, Fairlady 1500, or Toyota Corolla. 80s and newer: First-gen Toyota MR2, Fox-body Mustang, Miata, RX-7.
Wild-Main-7847@reddit
Honesty, when it comes to a project car the more flexible you are, and the more you shop around, the better the end result will be. You might find a basket case for $3000 and a decent head start for $5000. Try to find something that has a good body and original drivetrain. Early mustangs are plentiful and relatively cheap. YouTube can reach you just about anything, but understand that I cannot overstate how much work goes into a project car. TV shows make it look easy because they cram a years worth of work into a 1 hour episode.
Ivy1974@reddit
That would be cool. Would stick to something that predates computers. Something where back in the day you had to stick a screw driver in the carburetor to get it started.
rickbb80@reddit
Really? A corvette for a first car for a 16 year old. I see a trip to the hospital in your near future, (if you’re lucky). Just no. Get her a nice safe and dependable car and a project car for later when she learns how to actually drive better.
RealMasterpiece6121@reddit
Also, while Mustangs and Corvettes can be awesome cars, you may want to tread carefully on how much power you kids first car has. That is unless she is already into cart racing or some other kind of motorsport hobby.
One of the last dangerous things is turning a 16 year old loose in a car that has a lot more power than they can handle. It is a good recipe for injuringinr killing themselves and others.
musicpeoplehate@reddit
Any 20-year-old car is a project car. Steer her toward something that doesn't need a huge amount of work so she can get a taste of what it's like.
carguy82j@reddit
If you get a 60 car for a project, make sure to teach her how to drive it properly and not daily it. Depending on where you live, the other drivers don't drive like they used to back in the 60s and the brakes and suspension are not made to do some of the driving we have to do today with assholes cutting you off and doing stupid stuff. I'm building an old 93 BMW with my 11 year old daughter that has ABS and at least one airbag. I would let her daily it. We will wait to put the bigger engine and LSD in it until she has driven a couple of years on the street. She does indoor karting now, and i will get her outdoor karting lesson too. I already let her drive cars on farms roads near me. At 13 im signing her up for NHRA Jr street so she can drag a real car at the race track. Once she is good to drive, I will let her drive my 29k mile Grand National to show and at the drag strip.
DonkeyGlad653@reddit
S-10 Chevy 4x4 extended cab with manual transmission and 4.3 V-6. Too easy and all the aftermarket parts you’d need. She can keep it going forever
thisemmereffer@reddit
A 1979 puch maxi that is not currently running. If she gets that thing running like a top then get the project car. This is like when she was 3 and said she wanted to be an alligator when she grew up
njslugger78@reddit
Kids are smart. They know how to get parents moving. Have fun, you two.
FunIncident5161@reddit
Get a project motorcycle they are cleaner, cheaper, and parts are way lighter in comparison to car parts. plus they take up far less space than a car. I am down that road with a 1979 Honda goldwing and I love working on it but very frustrating probably less than a 60 year old car would be, rust being the biggest issue on a car.
Bartholomeuske@reddit
A car from 68 is now 56 years old.... Don't do that to yourself.
uhst3v3n@reddit
I tend to steer away from convertibles for young female drivers. Too easy to hop in, grab a purse, or harass at a stoplight.
But I live in Houston
Woodstock0311@reddit
Ton of 60's Camaros and Chevelle's out there. Easy to find parts for, especially the Camaro
Utter_Rube@reddit
First gen Mustangs can still be found cheap in base trim, coupe with an inline 6. Should be able to find something fairly complete without too much rust for under five grand, price goes up with V8 and fastback.
C2 'Vettes aren't cheap.
Grandemestizo@reddit
A gen 4 (1994-2004) or gen 5 (2005-2014) Mustang would be cool.
HoboMoonMan@reddit
‘60s Mustangs are easy to find, cheap and cheap to build. You can build one out of a catalog because they make damn near everything for them. It’s not a bad choice…
No-Information3194@reddit
Mustang coupes are pretty damn cheap for a project car, and tons of aftermarket, wouldn’t be a bad choice at all.
Mill-Work-Freedom@reddit
Great opportunity to work on a lasting project together.
Have a neighbor kid fairly close, he started at 15 as well and sourced, purchased and restored an Edsel all by himself. Then did the same for a 60's station wagon I believe.
There are many older vehicles sitting around you might be able to pick up cheap. Agree with others, figure out what she really wants, and a few other options as well.
Awkward_Stranger407@reddit
MK3 golf, or a mk4 for parts availability
butchdog@reddit
You could try an older Mustang (60's) with a six cylinder. Not as sexy, but not so expensive or challenging. If some mistakes are made restoring it, not a great loss but a good learning experience. They are plentiful still and you avoid modern electronics and get the same classic looks. Also some size for safety in an accident.
someonestopthatman@reddit
The answer, unironically, is always Miata.
They're cheap-ish, easy to work on, tons of them around, good aftermarket support, can be built anywhere from mild to wild, handle great out of the box, have a huge following with forums full of good advice, and (importantly for a teenage first time driver) are slow AF in stock form while still feeling sporty.
skylinesora@reddit
Location, budget, and time willing to spend on the car are all pretty useful information
kfe11b@reddit
Tdi
Infernal-Majesty@reddit
Maybe see if there are cheaper alternatives, for example if she likes muscle cars, maybe find something from the 80's like a Cutlass/Monte Carlo or Firebird/Camaro/El Camino. Those are relatively cheap.
You could try to find a more "unpopular" version of cool cars. For example the early 4th Gen Camaro/Firebird or SN95 Mustang. If she doesn't care about it being fast, you can always opt for the V6 version of any Camaro or Mustang and it will be significantly cheaper.
Look online together and keep an eye out for cars that just need a little work, don't buy someone else's half-finished project. If you find something with potential, do research on common issues for that car and how involved the repair is.
When I was 14 my dad bought a Porsche 914 for us to fix up and be my first car. Found some rust, then more rust and dug deeper. I am now 30 and it's currently a bare shell. Lol
snotrocket50@reddit
My son wanted to drive our Isuzu trooper when he got his license. He was 14 at the time and the trooper had a seized engine. I told him I would provide the parts and expertise and he would provide the labor and learn. He did a fantastic job and it started first time. It was a great bonding experience. Do it with your daughter no matter what car you get.
Kelome001@reddit
So with YouTube and the internet in general you can do the vast majority of the work for whatever car she ultimately gets. Just be aware some things will take specialized equipment or that the equipment would make it much much easier. So be prepared to get some extra tools you may not need very often, or budget for someone else to do certain jobs.
As for car… I don’t know your life and budget but I’d personally be leery of maybe older cars for a presumably inexperienced driver as a potential daily. But, up to you and a lesser extent her. Just be aware the more common the vehicle the easier time you will have getting performance or OEM parts and often be cheaper.
My dad and I partially restored an old Jeep Willys when I was around that age. Did a complete engine tear down and rebuild. Dad didn’t know anything about it. Just read some books and looked around online for suggestions and parts hunting.
SanitaryTrout@reddit
I wish I would’ve started at 15 and not 25. I’d be a hell of a lot more done!!!
TNShadetree@reddit
There are millions of classic mustangs around. And I'd highly recommend a Mustang as a first project.
Huge aftermarket support so you can buy anything needed. And parts are super inexpensive compared to other classic cars.
As long as you don't insist on a fastback, you should be able t find a reasonably priced.
For a daughter, I'd recommend 67 up. Seat belts and dual brake reservoir became standard in 67.
When checking out a potential mustang, the first step is to hit the ground and look underneath. Needing floor pans isn't a big deal, but rusted out rockers, frame rail or the cowl will mean tough work ahead. You can check the cowl by running a hose into the vent in from of the windshield and see if water leaks into the inside floors.
Novogobo@reddit
a miata, or if front wheel drive a 90s civic.
ihaveadeathwish99@reddit
Look into an e30 or e36 bmw. A lot of info online and they’re increasing in value so getting one that’s a project will get you a great car once done
375InStroke@reddit
Old Mustangs are still cheap and plentiful.
Darthtrong@reddit
Panther body to learn and have a reliable daily. Then an older mustang to wrench on and make pretty.
AnywhereFew9745@reddit
Jeep CJ with a good frame and body
Jengalover@reddit
Plan on her wrecking in the first 6 months.
Turtle_ti@reddit
Is your daughter just day dreaming about a project car fantasy. Or doess she/you as a family, actuary have the money, knowledge, skills, connections, ability and desire/drive to start and finish a program car?
It doesn't sound like you or your family have a history with automotive restorations, so where is your daughters desire to have a project car come from.
Is it just a fantasy, Something she saw online or social media and thinks would be cool. Does she just want a cool old car? does she want something to impress her friends, or a boy, or simply has a crush on a boy that likes cars.
How much project car does she think she wants, does she realize and want to do the amount of work that is needed and will she actually follow through to completion. Does she have any history of working on cars, did she start taking automotive classes in school, is that an option at her school ?
Find out what her idea of a project car is, not the tyoe of car itself, but the amount of work she wants to put into it. And the Skills she wants to learn and do.
Possibly the best option for what she really wants might be a cool older car that is in running condition, and you two do an oil change, filters, maybe spark plus or carburetor, as well as some interior work like the radio or speakers, new seat covers and a shifter knob and call it "project car done".
Find out why she wants to do this. what her end goal actually is. And how much work she wants to do to get there.
Does she want to rebuild a frame, or do body work, or tear apart and rebuild and engine or transmission, or simply have a cool old car that she did some work on.
Sometimes the adventure is the goal. Other times the end result is the only goal that matters.
Extreme_Map9543@reddit
A late 70a or early 80s Mercedes w123. Or a late 80s w124. They’re cheap, easy to work on, reliable. Still hold classic lines. Have most modern luxuries as far as old cars go. And are relatively safe to drive.
OnDasher808@reddit
Have a daily before a project. Do you already have enough cars for your family that transportation isn't a problem? Do you have the garage and driveway space that having a car hung up won't put anyone out? Do you have the finances that you can throw $15k into a black hole and never get anything back and still be okay? The main thing is to make sure this won't become something that drives arguments in the family, no car that you don't even own yet is worth that.
I would start with an early 2000s Mustang, not because I think they are great or anything but they are old enought to be cheap and have a few things wrong that she can work on. It's also distinctive enough that she will know you're acknowledging her interest instead of just a random cheap car. If she complains that it's not the car she wants tell her that it's a project and once she finishes she can sell it and start another project, you don't have to start with your unicorn.
Ok-Subject1296@reddit
How about a truck? I had a 72’ F100 3 on the tree 302 fixed it up got some wheels and tires. That thing was fun
yugosaki@reddit
Any 60s car is going to be hard to find for anywhere in the realm of a reasonable price for a first project, let alone a popular muscle car.
I would suggest the two of you browse local buy and sell websites and see what's there, or if you have pick and pull type places in your area, pop in and see if they have "builder" cars for sale. Temper her expectations on getting a popular classic for a first project and find something that'll be a more realistic but fun daily driver. I'd look for 90s vehicles as those are going to be the ones where you might find a cool car at a reasonable price, and still be able to get parts.
Also she doesn't want her dream car as a first project, trust me. Odds are there are gonna be mistakes, she's gonna break stuff, and there is gonna be frustration. It's just part of the learning process, but breaking something on your dream car just hurts way way more.
ThrowRAwannabe0321@reddit
Go for any 80’s-90’s import she can get behind. Shit even 80’s-90’s american muscle
gyrospita@reddit
BMW E30, E28, E34, E23
Apx1031@reddit
1st gen Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX. Cuz why not?
shitboxfesty@reddit
Or even just a gs/rs.
Apx1031@reddit
those are 2g's and those 420a engines are ass. I've had both and the 420a is just glass, especially after all these years.
shitboxfesty@reddit
No the first gen exlipse had an rs/gs/gs-t/and gsx options. Been working on them for years. But I much prefer 1gA’s to 1gB’s, cus flip ups for the win
Apx1031@reddit
Pop ups ftw indeed.
Thats right, Laser RS, Eclipse GS. Long day.
shitboxfesty@reddit
All good mate. I still have a teal laser rs I’ll get around to fixing one day
BigDaddyLongLeg69@reddit
I would go with something that’s not too uncommon to find at your local junkyard, you can usually look up inventory online for places like upullandpay and LKQ, that way you can find parts relatively quick, cheap, and easy. I’d also recommend pushing something more realistic as a first project, especially if she wants it as a first car and she’s only a year away from 16. Something fun from like the 90s to now like a Miata, mustang, Camaro, Chevy cobalt ss, dodge neon srt, ford probe…etc. This way she’ll have a car first when she’s 16, she’s more sure she has the drive to work on cars and she’ll be ready and more confident to take on a bigger project like a 60s mustang. Also she’ll need tools, and a nice toolset will be something that she’ll treasure and allow her to take pride in her tools and learn how to use and care for em. Home Depot has a Husky 270 piece Mechanics Tool Set on sale for the the holidays right now for $99, best bang for your buck and great set. Other tools I’d recommend is heavy duty impact gloves so she’ll be more confident in not dirtying her hands and hurting herself and definitely helps not to always bust up your knuckles, some safety glasses, a rubber mallet, a dead blow hammer, a flashlight, pliers, a pocket knife, a torque wrench, pry bar sets, and a tool bag or box. All of those you can get at harbor freight for pretty cheap. The only other thing I can say is YouTube will be your guys best friend with tutorials and guides on what you need to fix.
PerformanceDouble924@reddit
First off, you and she both need to understand that classic cars are essentially 4 wheeled motorcycles when it comes to safety, and for a first car, she'll want something with crumple zones and air bags, as new drivers often get into accidents, and you want to give her the best odds of walking away from them.
Full-Cockroach7772@reddit
You need to rule out any Corvette for a teenager. If you call your insurance company you will find that they will not insure it for a teenager and if you put it in your name and insure it as your car they will exclude anyone under a certain age maybe 18~21 If you do find a company that will insure it the price will probably be very expensive. I could be wrong but I would definitely check it out before buying anything you can’t insure for her. BTY I think it’s a fantastic idea I did the same thing with both my boys. 1968 Mustang and a 1968 Camaro.
Klo187@reddit
I mean, a basic toolkit isn’t so bad to get her started, teach her how to change a tire, change spark plugs, change brakes on what you already have, if she wants to get into muscle cars, mopar is a good option, they were everywhere, had so many options and cross over between brands and models, and parts are still easy to get.
Japanese is also a good direction, with miatas and Nissans everywhere.
Just make sure she understands that her budget isn’t unlimited, a lot of the time she’ll have to repair a part rather than replace, the work is dirty and hard, time consuming and not cheap
Stren509@reddit
The biggest concern here is safety. Id suggest a project but not as her first daily. Id put her in a mid to late 2000s Japanese car and build a OG mini or something like that for father daughter cruises.
Convergentshave@reddit
Why not start with like changing the oil in your own car, or replacing an alternator or something.
See if it’s actually something she would be interested in. Restoring a car is… years of weekends of work.
Steelrod_lopez@reddit
The 60s and 70s cars are way easier to restore than the new stuff that’s for sure. In her age group there’s a lot that consider 90s-2000s jdm cars classics and those are muuuuuch more tricky.
That gen of vette is a C2 and yeah they’re rare and very spendy. The mustang not so bad though. That gen is 67-69 and a 6 cyl version can be had for fairly normal money in need restoration shape.
Depending on how far you want to go with the restoration and budget there’s a lot of options but I’d recommend rack and pinion and disk brakes for drivability.
I’d budget around 15-20k for the project. And there’s tons of material and aftermarket support out there for those cars. The more boutique the car the less support so I’d stick with the big ones (Camaro nova vette stang etc.) the engines are super simple and easy to work on as are almost all the other components and the parts tend to be pretty affordable (aside from body and interior stuff) so I’d recommend finding a relatively clean shell with all the chrome and stuff intact to start.
They can be had for that kind of money already done depending on the chassis/parts but I think the experience will be a good one. It’s not easy to build a car but it’s definitely not impossible and 60s muscle is the best one to do it on.
obi1kenobi1@reddit
My advice along the lines of other comments is while figuring out what she likes try to encourage interests in less desirable cars. There are still a lot of deals to be had in the classic car hobby, cars that are still relatively affordable, relatively reliable, relatively easy and cheap to work on, but you need to avoid the cars everyone wants. Depending on the car it can be as simple as looking at a four door instead of a two door, or if she for example shows an interest in something like a Ford Falcon or Corvair or something follow that lead. Just whenever she mentions a car go look up prices, and try to encourage interest in the cars that will be more attainable. Or maybe even get some books or magazines about classic cars and go through them to see which ones stand out as something she would be interested in.
Collectors tend to want the cars that were cool and desirable when they were young, but the great thing about being a younger person in the hobby is that there’s no direct nostalgia for them. Any old car is cool because they never saw any on the road, and they all have charm that modern cars lack. As a millennial that’s why I’m most interested in classic luxury land yachts and station wagons, for decades nobody thought those cars were cool and even nowadays I get people asking why I chose a four door Oldsmobile 98 instead of a sporty car, but it’s because I wasn’t around when those cars were still on the road so to me they’re just cool looking, comfortable, and well equipped cars, I don’t have that memory of the annoying neighbor kid whose dad was a dentist driving one that older people have.
A big consideration that a lot of people interested in getting into the hobby don’t always think about: are you in it for the performance aspect, for the collectible/investment aspect, or just for the vibes? That last one is the sweet spot that will really open up your options. Like a ‘68 Mustang is an unrealistic dream car, especially as a first project. But a ‘68 Mustang coupe, with a six cylinder and an automatic? That’s basically poison to collectors so they’re much more accessible to people who just want a classic Mustang and not necessarily a top of the line performance model. And of course modern cars are so ridiculously overpowered that even a lot of hatchbacks and crossovers will smoke a (stock) classic muscle/pony car in a race, so in the grand scheme of things what’s the difference between a V8 and a straight six? They’ll both feel slow and poor-handling to someone getting their license in the 2020s, recently I discovered that my mother’s Ford Flex has a faster 0-60 time than a Lamborghini Miura.
And unlike pony cars which had exclusive styling muscle cars were just normal midsize cars with a performance package. So as an example if she likes a 442 see what she thinks of a Cutlass, which is the same car with the same styling but without the sporty package or the desirability/price. Make it a four door and the price goes down even more while still being a very cool looking and fun car (and one that people will likely gravitate toward at a car show, because they see restored muscle cars every day but rarely see a normal sedan).
One other thing to consider is safety. No classic cars are really going to be safe, but most accidents are low-speed collisions near home so you can dramatically improve safety in those scenarios with the right car. My personal preference for safety has always been 1969. Shoulder belts were mandated half way through the 1968 model year, and headrests were mandated half way through the 1969 model year (most manufacturers made them standard at the beginning of the model year but I’ve seen some ‘69 Ford cars without headrests). Around those years a bunch of other safety features also became either popularized or mandated, like collapsible steering columns, side impact door beams, disc brakes, radial tires (though that one is obviously super easy to fix if the car didn’t come with them), more standardized exterior lighting, mirrors on both sides, and some other things I’m forgetting. Some brands even offered primitive ABS and traction control systems in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s, though that’s a bit too niche to count on finding. Also in those days bigger cars were always much safer, in a similar way to how pickup trucks today just plow through everything else on the road. A big late ‘60s or early ‘70s car won’t be anywhere near as safe as something from the ‘90s or newer, with airbags and a modern safety cage/crumple zone construction, but it will still be way better than something even from just a few years earlier.
dwcanker@reddit
The less desirable 60s cars can still be picked up fairly cheaply. A ford falcon shares a lot with mustang just not as cool looking, usually much cheaper, available in 4 doors even cheaper, and still pretty common. There are a lot of other examples once you get look past mustangs, camaros, chargers, corvettes,,,,,,, I bought a 2 door 67 ford galaxie back in the day for as another example but those are boats.
Miserable-Martyr69@reddit
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WhiskeyDabber67@reddit
That’s awesome she has an interest in cars and you’re encouraging her. But giving your limited knowledge and that she wants it as her first car, a restoration probably isn’t the best idea. I bought a 67 Mustang at 18 and they are great cars to learn on, simple enough to handle most repairs and plentiful parts. I don’t think I would put my daughter in one as a first car though, not exactly the safest anyways.
Instead of finding a restoration project, I’d look for a clean stock car to modify and work on. As others have said, Miata’s are great for this. I have no idea what your financial situation is, but a 67 corvette or mustang isn’t cheap. Doing a restoration on one isn’t cheap either. I’d have a conversation with her about what she’s into, and consider what your budget will be then look into options in your price range. Getting a clean stock vehicle and modifying it to her individual tastes over time seems like a better ideas to me.
She gets a car that’s fairly reliable when she gets her license, and can learn the basics on vehicle maintenance and turning a wrench. Plus learning to drive safely on something with reasonable power for a 16 year old to learn to control.
JHZcar@reddit
this is my 1980 datsun 280zx i got for $1600 non running when i was 15, theyre fun cars, whatever you do make sure theres no rust
JHZcar@reddit
this is the car when i left for college at 18, anything is doable depending on how you budget your time
Moby1313@reddit
My project car in 1992 was a 1960 Thunderbird. My current project car is a 1976 XJ12L jag. Good luck.
Thee_Sinner@reddit
Miata is always the answer
totaltomination@reddit
Honda Fit/Jazz is a great place to start, disposable cheap and plentiful, they are a great handling package designed in an era of fine element analysis so they don’t handle unpredictably and when you do crash, you walk away with bumps and scrapes instead of impaled on a steering column. Very modifiable, heaps of engine swaps and parts communities and the computer talks to your laptop in really helpful ways
ShidOnABrick@reddit
Crown vic / MGM (pedestrian but still peppy and sounds good with no or any exhaust lol, the fatherly move) , fox body ( possibly a gateway into a life of power sports lol ) , miata (pedestrian fast, but extremely fun to drive all rounder, speed issue is easily remedied, 2.5L ford fusion swap is almost bolt on and huge overhead for more power )
classless_classic@reddit
I’m so jealous. My oldest could not care less about cars and thinks they are stupid.
Having a kid that wants to spend time working on a project in the shop would be a dream.
Enjoy every minute.
MR2Starman@reddit
Aw11 mr2 or zw30 Spyder. Both are small, cute, fun, very tame in stock form and exceptional drivers cars. Best of all if it's a manual her idiot friends won't be able to drive it.
I love the foxbody, but that's too much on gas, insurance, and tires for a teenager. Anything less than a manual 5.0 isn't worth buying or working on either.
datboipabz15@reddit
Does it have to be a muscle car? Otherwise japanese is the way. Like the best is an ek hatch. You can literally do anything. They cost about 5k running add another 7k you have a full specced race car that can gap even modern cars.
killerwhaleorcacat@reddit
You need to know your budget first of all. Sixties cars would be a massive project. You would need to do every single part of it. It would be more expensive. Not have nicer safety features such as antilock brakes or airbags. I usually stick with 1996 and newer vehicles for the ease of obdii troubleshooting. You could absolutely find a mustang from them or newer to fix up and have a reliable daily driver that gets good mileage. Might make more sense to get the v6 for mileage and safety as a new driver. Also if you have winter you might consider awd and 4wd options such as a wrx or a single cab short bed Chevy truck. That’s a great option. A full size single cab short bed. Much safer, better road visibility. Reverse camera can be added for a new driver to aid backing up.
alexlikespizza@reddit
W dad W daughter
mr_lab_rat@reddit
Newer car than that. She might like American cars but e36/e46 BMWs can be found for cheap (available as convertibles too). Very easy to work on thanks to longitudinal engine. Tons of parts available. Everything fits together, manual swaps, rear ends for shorter gearing, 3.0 intakes and TBs on 2.5 engines. Great fun, tons to be learned, and pretty good cars to drive as well. Not easy to make big power but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
pieisthetruth32@reddit
Let’s put a Child brand new to driving in a car from the 70s because you want your child to live a long, healthy life?
Cars are my life and I would never put my child in a death trap for shits and giggles
chatapokai@reddit
Especially in the condition that they would be able to afford and pick one up. Anything less than $15,000 is probably rotted through and/or hasn't had their suspension and brakes updated or maintained (like they'd be looking at an i6 mustang with drums all around which is NOT safe anywhere to daily, even in California weather).
pieisthetruth32@reddit
I don’t think people understand, restoring or modifying a vehicle pre-1990 for the most part involves you becoming a fabricator as well.
The only classic car Iv worked on is a 1970 Camaro. some of the work involved building a jig to position the car sideways in the garage so we can cut out the whole whole entire floorboard and welding in a new one
You could teach a monkey to rebuild a Chevy 350. if you ask me, classic cars are not for new car people at all. If You are a young person who wants to drive a car and modify it you get a 1990s+.
Not to mention the wonders of tuning that are available to you with OBD 2.
The years between carbureted cars and OBD 2 are kind of ass to tune and modify heavily a lot of the times, obviously the aftermarket will solve problems but still
For an example, look into tuning an OBD one versus an OBD two E36
khazixian@reddit
I mean miatas arent exactly the safest cars. A tiny ass convertible in a world of crossovers and SUVs isnt going to protect you any better than a boat from the 70s.
pieisthetruth32@reddit
You are not going to put ABS in advanced traction control systems as well as a multi point role cage that directs the engine left or right when you smashed into a wall on a restored 70s vehicle
Half of what I listed is standard on a Miata the rest is very common to add onto them and there is a large aftermarket for them with lots of forms to support the person building it.
You wouldn’t think a smart car is super safe on knee jerk reaction but in reality, they are very safe. No less then a normal sized car.
Obvious-Dinner-1082@reddit
Miles safer than a 70s classic. Miata will have abs, disc brakes all around, a modern suspension, in a collision the motor won’t sitting be in your lap, with a steering column through your chest.
Dive30@reddit
Car? If she would be OK with it, a C/K 1500 or F150, maybe an old Jeep? Lots of parts and support.
DocTarr@reddit
I would pick something that has a good reproduction/aftermarket that they made a lot of. Also something simple.
Ford Falcons are easy first cars because the overlap with mustang chassis makes reproduction and aftermarket parts easy and cheap to come by.
Similarly most classic trucks. Trucks have the additional benefit of being way simpler. If she's into that I would get yourself a bumpside Ford. Super easy to work on, cheap to come by, etc.
thurniesauna@reddit
Haven’t seen this yet, but her first car should not be the project car.
All first time drivers are likely to wreck in their first year. Your willingness and her interest can be a huge memory for your family, and create inspiration for your kids job interest later.
Get her a civic or sequoia and take your time with the project, using reasonable goals to motivate and keep the project going.
CTPENGUIN88@reddit
If you're sticking to muscle and trying to keep it reasonable. I'd say Comero, Jeep / Truck. But if you want to spend a little more for looks and street cred, I'd go with some cheap jdm car like a Miata, Speed3, or any of the nissans Z / ZX.
There is a world where you go with a E30, E36, etc but I think you'd be rolling the dice on costs of fixing aswell as how much work is required to restore.
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NCC74656@reddit
if i were in your shoes, id do what ever i had to to find a car she likes to restore. id head down to menards and harbor freight and get her some of the tools she will need and go from there. i recommend getting a used lincoln mig welder as opposed to a chicago electric if your gonna do body work. it will turn out better
Dinglebutterball@reddit
The 80’s el Camino’s are still cheap if you don’t have to worry about emmisions
66NickS@reddit
Take a look at pickup trucks too. Typically pretty tough, full frame, lots of aftermarket support, plenty of room in the engine bay, easy to get underneath, etc
UneaseyMech@reddit
None of them will be cheap, restoring a car is expensive and you generally need to buy 2 or 3 of the same vehicle to end up with a decent product, parts are not easy to come by either, it’s either junkyard parts or race car parts as the manufacturer obviously don’t make the vehicle anymore, if you want something that won’t be a huge pain in the ass, don’t go with the mustang, they are puddle makers (I’ve done 3)
tgallmey@reddit
Set a budget and let her become addicted to marketplace. It’s her tism so she should pick it. GM stuff is usually easy to find and work with and has the most aftermarket and support available.
G-T-R-F-R-E-A-K-1-7@reddit
Check out YouTube channels like Junkyard Digs, Dylan McCool, Mighty Car Mods, The Skid Factory, Road Kill (Motor Trend), Auto Alex, Vice Grip Garage, Pole Barn Garage & Hoonigan for inspiration on what other people have built - heaps of variety in just those. Best advice I can give is to choose something that from the beginning will be seen as a practice car so it wont be a big deal if mistakes are made and you can both hone your skills in a low stakes project then get something next level later to build to a higher quality. The practice car will help you's gather the ground level knowledge and techniques. Have fun! :D
StartwithaRoux@reddit
First Gen s10 (near same suspension as a G body)
Any G body
Old clapped out Honda that you think isn't too far gone
Fox body mustang (they are going up)
C10 of any generation (also going up)
Miata
Pick your flavor of z car
shroomkat85@reddit
82-92 Camaro, you can find them for cheap, especially ones that need work. Parts are cheap and easy to find. Out of all the cars I’ve ever worked on, it’s been the easiest by faaaarrrr. I was mostly into imports and I’m sure other old American cars are just as easy, but holy crap you can take the whole car apart with a box wrench in a weekend. Also, they’re really nice looking cars.
Another top comment was fox body. If you can find one for cheap do it but it won’t be as pretty as the Camaro and you won’t get as much bang for buck as an old 3rd gen. Also firebirds of the same year as the Camaro bc they are literally the same cars. Firebirds I’ve found tend to be cheaper as well.
e30erza@reddit
I mean they made like 2.3million 1964-1969 mustangs. Not common to see now but idk about rare
Mopar44o@reddit
Whats the budget?
xcelor8@reddit
You can certainly find a example car that runs and drives, but still needs work and or upgrades, you don't need to find one that's been sitting undriven in years that's not functional. I see mustangs in and under 20k all the time, can't say what actual condition they are in.
cheeseandzakaroni@reddit
3800 GM Submitted without comment.
wheelsmatsjall@reddit
A friend of mine is getting rid of a 79 mg convertible for about 2,000 rust free project car but they are small cars. It's not totally worn out it's just been seeing the desert for about 10 years. If you look around you can find them in this price range some better some worse but if you look out west there always rest free or down south
blindythepirate@reddit
A square body Ranger. Cheap to find, has a decent aftermarket. Can't fill the truck with a ton of other kids
echomatt95@reddit
Early Mustangs are incredibly easy to find and for reasonable prices. Their parts are also pretty reasonable price wise. Corvettes are definitely going to be harder price wise.
Some have recommended the MGB, and now, while they definitely have gotten easier to get parts for, especially the state side, I'd stay way for safety concerns. Definitely try to get a hard top car as a first project. Both safety wise driving and working on.
Now I'd say an "offical" sports car should be avoided just because of insurance premiums, and young drivers usually get high premiums. A two door coup from the 70s, 80s and 90s are really reasonable projects and the later you go, meaning closer to 2000s the more safety equipment you'll get.
My highest recommendation is to get a running driving example of a car, I know this seems pretty dumb to say but sometimes you'll find unbelievable deals on really good models but they DON'T RUN, always get the driver.
My recommendations for good, cheap projects are: 70s-2000s trucks, all parts are available and a genuine passion from their associated communities will always help
Any gen mustang. So many were made and they fun and cheap.
Later corvettes, 90s to 2010, are easy to find have a great aftermarket.
Any Japanese imports are solid choice, just get one that was originally sold in your country and parts should be plentiful. Personally recommend this option best for safety and fuel economy.
Besides that set a budget and once you got a idea let us know with un update and we can provide even more examples in that range. Good luck and have fun.
Obvious-Dinner-1082@reddit
Bias opinion, but a late second gen Camaro. The stock motor tops out with 175hp, not enough to get in real trouble in. Dirt cheap stock parts, endless upgrades. Can be torn down and rebuilt with a basic tool set. Almost everything is a 1/2” or 5/16” socket, or a Philips screw.
Downside, 10mpg and generally not a safe car to be in a collision with as with most classics.
roadwarrior1974@reddit
Late 1980's or 90's F150 pick up.
sladebonge@reddit
Something with no power would be ideal so a rustang would be perfect.
Navi_Professor@reddit
a c4 is great. a 90s one is right at that crossroads of simplicity but modern enough modern tech they're liveable.
c5s have a bit too much wiring for a beginner and have their own expensive issues
Isamu29@reddit
You won’t find a good one cheep air a cheep one that’s good. Both are 25-40k cars in poor condition. Will need lots of rust repair or fiberglass repair. Most will need at least one new big ticket item like engine/transmission/rear end rebuild. Not to mention the suspension and brake systems. I would look at bring a trailer .com, that would give you a pretty good idea of the price ranges. Remember these cars are 50 plus year old cars. The bad ones are gonna be really bad and the ones that need easy things done to them are going to be $$$$$.
QuiteQuestionablyQ@reddit
Not sure what some of the other people in here are saying. You can totally still find an early notchback Mustang ('64-'66) for well under the 10k range in serviceable condition, and are cars that have had every inch of metal on them reproduced. They'll be ratty, but they'll work. A C2 Vette, on the other hand, is crazy talk. 70's C3's can be had in decent shape for a decent price, though they're certainly not a C2. Talk with her about what she likes! If she wants a classic, shoot for a classic. Life is too short to go through Miatas
daydai76@reddit
Her first choices aren't realistic whatsoever, those are dream car choices 1973 - 1978 Mustangs are more realistic. Fox body Mustangs aren't realistic either. Ford Fairmont (Fox body platform) still slightly affordable. Some parts of U.S P71 Crown Vic are affordable. Either way first car that's a beater with a heater is great way to go.
cicada_shell@reddit
Should have her browse BaT for a bit and see the whole gamut of cars. There's much more out there aside a Mustang or a C2. Any of the old air-cooled VWs, BMW 2002, Mercedes 190E or R107 or a W123, a Porsche 944.. a lot of the domestic stuff you'd actually want to own has been priced stupidly in recent years and most post-fuel crisis domestic cars you can actually work on are going to be pretty dull or low quality. Could even consider a JDM van or something.
Jpaynesae1991@reddit
See if she has interest in a 90s car, going for something in the 60s will need every single piece replaced, unless you’re willing to buy a car that mostly done already, plus it’ll be safer in a crash
RIG_PIG69@reddit
67 vett or stand what's your budget? R u rich? I say Miata.
ohitsjeffagain@reddit
air cooled vw hands dowm
BadBadBenBernanke@reddit
MGB and aircooled VW are probably your best bet. The parts are all available, there’s a large knowledgeable DIY community, and they made a lot of them.
CollectiveJohn@reddit
Mazda protege/protege5 They’re cheap and easy to work on. Underpowered enough that she wont put herself in much danger. It handles extremely well. Downside is there’s Not very much aftermarket except suspension and turbos. It can make around 180whp with a turbo reliably
TheProcess1010@reddit
Mustang, civic, c5/c6 corvette, reg cab short bed truck (surprisingly light, and drop kits + suspension work can make em nimble), Miata