Would I be poisoned if I stepped on this puffer fish on a beach on Contadora Island in the Pacific Coast of the Central American country of Panama?
Posted by Rd3055@reddit | marinebiology | View on Reddit | 24 comments
I found it on an island beach in Panama's Pacific Ocean. It washed up ashore in the same area where I was walking around the water waist-deep and barefoot (1 will now be ordering some beach shoes).
Thank you in advance for your answers
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stargatedalek2@reddit
Pufferfish poison is only if you eat them, not in their spines like it is for lionfish. Which conversely means lionfish are safe to eat!
SatanDarkofFabulous@reddit
Oh that's cool!
stargatedalek2@reddit
You can even eat the lionfish toxin itself! It'll give you an upset stomach if its raw, but cook it and it's basically imperceptible.
nygration@reddit
Fun fact: Heat denatures the protein of the lionfish venom! Cooking makes it not just 'imperceptible' but destroys the toxin. Similarly, Kitzer et al. (1985) found that soaking limbs affected by lionfish spine injuries in non-scalding water 40-45°C lead to 'complete symptomatic relief' in 80% of cases.
stargatedalek2@reddit
I did not know that worked post injection. That is very good to know thank you. Hopefully I won't have to use it but you never know, everyone goofs up eventually.
afoley947@reddit
Someone i knew did some brief research on them. They are pretty nutritious (similar EFA profile to atlantic stripped bass) and taste like grouper!
Plus, they're invasive in the Atlantic Ocean, so you can catch as many as you'd like.
stargatedalek2@reddit
They're super easy to spear for too! Since they just kind of hunker up and assume they're invincible, but if your spike is longer than theirs they can't really do much.
Taxus_Calyx@reddit
This is the difference between poisonous and venomous.
mrzurkonandfriends@reddit
Poison is ingested. Venom is injected. I have no knowledge of this fish, but that is an important distinction in case you get some smart-ass comments.
Rd3055@reddit (OP)
I see. Thanks for the explanation.
mrzurkonandfriends@reddit
Not a problem, man. I hope you found the info you initially wanted.
sarcastic_monkies@reddit
This animal will not release venom through its spines but is poisonous when ingested. I'm am not saying, however, that it won't hurt lol
Rd3055@reddit (OP)
lol, I am already looking at beach shoes on Amazon.
TechnicallyHankHill@reddit
This is a porcupinefish, not a pufferfish. The spines are modified scales, and they are not used for delivering poison. They still possess poison in their organs, and so eating them can poison [and probably kill] you [though some places can feature them as a delicacy if prepared right].
Rd3055@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the information. I will never in a million years think of eating that fish, raw or cooked.
I will, however, invest in some sturdy beach shoes now.
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ether_allenpoe@reddit
No