Dock workers of the COSCO union in Pireus, Greece block munitions shipment to Israel

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Axil_GR@reddit

In Greece we call these people "Άπλυτοι" (Dirty). Something is wrong with them.

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Ntinaras007@reddit

In greece we call you milk and honey dive jumper.

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Axil_GR@reddit

I thought that name was limited to Nazis, times change I suppose?

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nospsce@reddit

Bravo to Greece and its people! We need more of this!

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Lads!
Btw just a note OP, these guys stand in the same political line like the ones that tried to stop ammunition tracks of NATO for Ukraine. They are against NATO, Russia, Zelensky and Israel and they were the first to protest against all this carnage. They are for the workers, not the oligarchs. The Marxists you were saying in a previous post.

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Another_WeebOnReddit@reddit (OP)

yeah they are piece of shit, but they finally did something good for once

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SalmorejoFresquito@reddit

Why are they pos? Selling weapons is ok but just to the ones you decide?

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Another_WeebOnReddit@reddit (OP)

Because Ukraine needs them, they are being invaded.

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SalmorejoFresquito@reddit

And they don't want that to be a bussiness

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

What is the alternative?

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sandvine0@reddit

Ukraine & Russia should figure out a diplomatic solution to their dispute. The war has gone on long enough and at this point escalation by any sides would only ends with nuclear war. NATO is very hawkish & wants the war to go on despite the mounting Ukrainians death toll. They're slave to the weapon industries (their economies are dependent on war to sell more weapons, they don't necessarily have Ukraine's best interest).

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

Russia is not interested in a diplomatic solution that doesn't give them everything they want.

That is not a diplomatic solution and only Russian shills are advocating for it.

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sandvine0@reddit

And if the need for punishment ends with a nuclear war? Would you still advocate for it? The west have already done their full economic sanctions, embargoes, Russia has been banned from world cultural & sports events, what more do you want? To see the world ends up in flames? Diplomatic solutions, reparations to Ukraine, not any more war. The west just wants to infinitely sell weapons.

"Russia is not interested in a diplomatic solution that doesn't give them everything they want."

And what do they want? They want NATO to not expand? As NATO promised them they would?

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

Diplomatic solutions, reparations to Ukraine

Again, this is not happening.

I'm done trying to make you understand it.

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sandvine0@reddit

That is not happening? Why? Tell me one thing that Russia wants and that NATO is risking nuclear war for? Because if it's not to keep war in perpetuity so the US can keep selling weapons, y'all are risking nuclear war for a disagreement over freaking NATO membership, which is stupid.

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

Russia wants Ukraine.

Nobody but Russia is risking nuclear war.

If you give in to Russia's demands because you're afraid of nuclear war, you're just telling Russia it can do whatever it wants forever as long as it threatens nuclear war.

Goodbye.

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SalmorejoFresquito@reddit

Not letting arms go to Russia is just supporting Ukraine

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

Not letting arms go anywhere is just supporting the stronger power.

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Impossible_Speed_954@reddit

With their filthy downvotes.

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PasswordIsDongers@reddit

It's so much easier than having to think about what they're saying.

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Background-Estate245@reddit

So is Israel.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Sending or not sending.. does not make a difference if its charred.

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dungfeeder@reddit

Hey, if they're against selling weapons to either side I can respect that.

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LibertyChecked28@reddit

Edit: What's with the downvotes?

Because your head is denser than a ball of Thungsten for interpenting their wish for "Greece to be Neutral" as: "Either picking your 'right' side of Political Tribalism, or being fundamentally your worst enemy".

To spell it out would: "Greece being Neutral" translates to "Not getting invovled with stuff that has little to do with Greece in general"- it dosen't matter if it's "Invading Syria", "Invading NK" or "Ending slavery in Lybia" we are talking about here, they don't to get involved with any of this.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Because you called them PoS.

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dio_dim@reddit

Not against Russia, though. It was their parent company after all. Old loves never die.

The went ahead and burnt US and Israel's flags a few days ago and marched to the US and Israel Embassies too. Concerning Russia, it was just Sunday.

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d1spersa@reddit

Not true, there were the first to march against the Russian embassy here in Greece. I saw them myself. Regardless were one stands politically, pay credit where credit's due.

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dio_dim@reddit

Sorry but I do not pay credit to Russian fake news spreaders.

https://www.ellinikahoaxes.gr/2024/06/05/fake-news-i-eidisi-oti-o-zelenski-agorase-kazino-stin-kypro/

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ConcentrateVast2356@reddit

So sometimes they're in the right, other times they're in the wrong, is what you're saying.

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Rude_Bed9252@reddit

who are you to determine?

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AgatoNtB@reddit

They live in a bubble that's for sure.

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Terrible_Resource367@reddit

Lol, why?

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Expert-Scientist-940@reddit

against NATO, Russia, Zelensky and Israel

One of these is not like the others.

Greek "Marxist" schizophrenia

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Gatholig-Criostach@reddit

How are they ag

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inalibakma@reddit

I don't like marxists in general, but I do respect these men for this

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BrownShoesGreenCoat@reddit

What a mess of a comment

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_nzatar@reddit

Very nice

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somegingerdude739@reddit

Very nice to hold up need supplies to a country being invaded?

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_nzatar@reddit

something something both sides bad something something

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somegingerdude739@reddit

1 is aggressor invading another country, 1 is literally just trying to live

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Bilal_58@reddit

Palestinians raised and funded many terrorists. Doesnt justify israel but there is this too.

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Andrew_al-Amriki@reddit

Why do you think many became terrorists? Ethnic cleansing and Apartheid tend to have that effect on people.

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Beautiful-Climate776@reddit

Buzzwords based on lies

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Bilal_58@reddit

Yes definetly.

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Theban_Prince@reddit

Israel was very justified in entering Northern Gaza. But that's about it. What they have been doing since then is an aggressive war shamelessly using their innocent victims as a casus belli to "clean house". Aka what the US did after 9/11 and it will probably have the same results.

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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Oh yeah. A democratic country who's minding it's own business is just as bad as a Jihadist dictatorship who keeps attacking it's neighbor over historical grudges. Are you serious right now ?!

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Minding its own business on occupied Palestinian lands?

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Every-Artist-35@reddit

If 400 fighters from whatever nation invade Xanthi and beheaded people in the town where exactly would you stop your retaliation?

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Are the Turks and Pomaks around Xanthi "occupied"? Granted, we don't respect their minority rights but saying their lands are occupied in the way Gaza and West Bank are occupied by Israel a very big stretch.

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Fatalaros@reddit

Can you give an example.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Can they have education in their language? Can they call themselves what they are, or will the entire Greece act shocked if a Turk from Thrace calls himself a Turk?

Still, they're much better off than Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank.

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Fatalaros@reddit

Yes. Where do you live in the middle of Athens and have no idea of what happens in the rest of Greece?. They even have their own judicial systems and judges, mayors, government representatives. Who ever told you it is illegal to identify as a Turk or a Bulgarian must have pranked you.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

See here and here.

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Fatalaros@reddit

Let's differentiate between two things. The minority in Trace is identified as religious and not ethnic. That being muslim. In it therefore are included, turks, greeks, pomaks and bulgarians. The state doesn't recognise the turks as a separate ethnic minority (as per the Lausanne treaty). It isn't that it doesn't recognise them being Turks.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

The state doesn't recognise the turks as a separate ethnic minority

So the Turk-specific rights of Turks in Western Thrace aren't recognized. Thank you for confirming what I've been saying.

It isn't that it doesn't recognise them being Turks.

It still doesn't. Else, why would we act as if we fell from the moon each time a Turk from Western Thrace publicly calls himself a Turk?

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Fatalaros@reddit

Why do you want them to be turk specific? They are muslim and their rights as the muslim minority in Thrace are recognised. Nobody "falls from the moon" when a turk from Thrace calls himself a turk. What people hate here is the Turkish state propaganda (of which you are either a victim or a proponent) that the minority is Turkish (and therefore tries to deny that pomaks aren't turks) and that their rights are somehow oppressed. Guess what, Greece is not Yemen. We are in the EU, we are subjects to international organisations and institutions that identify if such problems persist. We can argue however that these populations have been neglected by Greece.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Why do you want them to be turk specific?

Because normally they would have such right.

Nobody "falls from the moon" when a turk from Thrace calls himself a turk.

When some collaborators of Marina Satti identified themselves as Turks a controversy was sparked.

that the minority is Turkish

There is not just one minority. There is indeed a Muslim religious minority, there are also unrecognized Turkish and Pomak ethnic minorities that (for the biggest part?) overlap the Muslim one. The ethnic rights of the latter are violated.

we are subjects to international organisations and institutions that identify if such problems persist

Ironically we are subject to such criticism only in times when Greece does something correctly, like refusing to bomb SR Yugoslavia back in 1999.

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Fatalaros@reddit

Do you really consider gossip in TV as something in which the government should be considered, lol. If Turkey wanted a Turkish minority recognised instead of a muslim one they shouldn't have signed the Lausanne treaty. We stand by the treaty, we honour it and we don't disrespect it like Turkey has done numerous times as evident in the links you sent me.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Do you really consider gossip in TV as something in which the government should be considered, lol.

I don't even care about Marina Satti and Eurovision, but I care about the fact that her collaborators called themselves what they are, which sparked the controversy. They could also be university professors calling themselves Turks for that matter.

If Turkey wanted a Turkish minority recognised instead of a muslim one they shouldn't have signed the Lausanne treaty.

I don't care about Turkey, but I care about the Turkish but citizens of Greece in Western Thrace. The Lausanne treaty isn't just for them, I have no intention to respect it on points where it's injust.

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Fatalaros@reddit

There is no controversy just TV gossip drama like you know already. "Turkish citizens" of Greece are called Greek citizens my friend. Otherwise they would be in Turkey. Greek citizens of turkish ethnicity have all the rights a Greek citizen has and more (privileges). You can stop worrying now.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

They are Greek citizens but ethnic Turks. You evidently don't understand ethnic minority rights.

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Fatalaros@reddit

Why did you repeat what I wrote?

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

It seems that I misread what you wrote, but the second part of what I wrote still stands.

Greek citizens of Turkish ethnicity don't have they rights fulfilled because not even their "Turkishness" is recognized.

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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

The occupation would have ended a long time ago if those savages just put down their weapons and accepted peaceful coexistance instead of holding on to some historical grudges and using them as a pretext to attack their neighbor.

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Top_Net_9309@reddit

Prost mai iesti

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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Prost ești tu

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Liquid_Chrome8909@reddit

Profound mental regardation

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Nick_mgt@reddit

gif

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LegkoKatka@reddit

They're currently being invaded? Foreign troops on their territory? That's news to me.

Or do you keep claiming Palestinian lands as new Israeli settlements?

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CrazyGreekReloaded@reddit

We are so based

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Confident-Fondant460@reddit

Not really. People in Greece also tried to block weapons to Ukraine.

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Qasimisunloved@reddit

Is war not wrong? Do you like the military industrial complex?

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Not aiding countries fighting to defend themselves against imperialism & terrorism is very much wrong.

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Qasimisunloved@reddit

Is it ok for the West to influence Ukraine but not Russia? I am not defending Russia but why is economic imperialism of the West any more defensable than Russias imperialism?

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sinceus89@reddit

There is unquestionable bias in favor of the west. Successful brainwashing of the masses for the past 100 years

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Pekamaan@reddit

Holy shit he can think.. rare specimen compared to the wildlife around the echochamber

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shit_at_programming@reddit

Based and non-aligned

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itay162@reddit

Say what you will but opposing both Ukraine and Israel is very much aligned

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LibertyChecked28@reddit

Towards the 'neutral' postion, yes.

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Grekorim@reddit

It is indeed! It's supporting the enemies of the democracies like Iran and Russia = being a tankie. Very based indeed.

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Pekamaan@reddit

For the red army!!

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the-fourth-planet@reddit

rare humongous greek W

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Axil_GR@reddit

Common Greek L, y'all are trying to sabotage America and Israel not realizing we are nothing without them.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

17 Νοέμβρη ρε είναι σήμερα, αμερικανοτσολιά.

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Axil_GR@reddit

17 November is just a casual day, the Polytechnic "Uprising" is an excuse that the far-left uses to hold pro-palestinian rallies. I hope it gets forgotten in history. We are with NATO and it will remain that way for a long time.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

You are with NATO, we are not.

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DinBedsteVen6@reddit

You see a commie/tsnkie. Probably teenager too. You are irrelevant

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Axil_GR@reddit

There's no "we". You are a vocal minority who have little to no public support, something which is visible in polls and elections.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Only 37% of Greeks support NATO. So even if most of us are voting the same 3 NATO-supporting parties, the support for NATO by the people is in reality much lower. Add to that those who don't vote because they're disillusioned, these people probably won't support NATO either.

And the KKE's percentages are only going up since the start of 2023.

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Pekamaan@reddit

KKE? feels like the 50s again

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Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit

Its important to note that favorability is not necessarily support or lack there of.

The majority of Greeks would vote to remain in NATO if given the option, which hints more so at a critical or pragmatic support of it. I don't like NATO but I wouldn't want to see Greece outside it, such a thing would be disastrous for our national security, especially in a unipolar world

Only 8% of Greeks would vote to leave NATO, 70% would remain

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293783/nato-membership-support-levels/

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

You have a point, but there is still a difference between reluctantly voting to stay in NATO and being a NAFO shill.

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Celestial_Presence@reddit

He owned you. Accept it, churl.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

He didn't.

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Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit

Israel is not in NATO

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Celestial_Presence@reddit

Τι να ευχηθεί κανείς;

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the-fourth-planet@reddit

I care more about children getting bombed than all that

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Tell Hamas to stop hiding behind them and return the remaining hostages and the bombing will stop.

It's a massive demand to those poor, innocent terro–er, "freedom fighters" I know.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Well well well.. so much for muslim "brothers"

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

We never considered you brothers and most of us don't give a rats ass about the Creed Islam teaches. Israel on the other hand recognised Kosova as a legitimate state, offered security against cyber attacks and offered aid to Kosova during the Pandemic.

Palestine meanwhile tried to invite Milosevic for holiday during the war in 1998-1999.

Israel is a far better ally than most so-called Muslim nations ever will be.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Not muslim btw, also source on milosevic thing cause if true.. makes me like em slightly more.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/palestinian-authority-invites-milosevic-to-2893451.php

makes me like em slightly more.

Of fucking course you would...

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Pekamaan@reddit

Thanks ima go fund hamas with humus and kupus

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Wickedstup1d@reddit

Didn't your country beg and suck America's dick when Serbs were wiping the floor with you? Lmao, it's funny you want NATO to defend you when you're being mercilessly bombed, but don't want that for others?

Didn't know Albanians can be as stupid as you. Hopefully, there aren't many like your

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CrownOfAragon@reddit

Thank God you are in the very small minority of Greeks. We wouldn’t last another decade if more were as delusional as you.

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Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit

NATO is an outdated organization that really has no relevancy in the modern world

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ManOfAksai@reddit

Palestine is Greek!

Jokes aside, the Philistines (whom Palestine was named after) was probably a Hellenic-speaking group (Arcado-Cypriot?), and worshipped 𐤐𐤕[ ]𐤉𐤄 (PT?YH) assumed to be Potnia or Pythogaia.

Coincidentally, around the period of the Trojan War gives an account of invading sea people, some of whom, (Denyen, Tanaju, Eqwesh) sound quite similar to the Danaoi and the Akhaioí.

The Peleset (Philstines) are thought by some to be the Pelasgoi, or something akin to φῡλή ἱστία (Tribe of Hestia)

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sergy777@reddit

Simping for Islamists. Wow, so based and brave.

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Another_WeebOnReddit@reddit (OP)

I am an exmuslim and I am very anti-Islam

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sergy777@reddit

Ok. What are your thoughts on Israeli war against Sunni Islamists in Gaza and Shia Islamists in Lebanon?

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silverbell215@reddit

I didn’t know babies could be islamist terrorists

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sergy777@reddit

Civilians die in every war, it's an unfortunate truth.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

And the main reason they die is because Hamas wants to use them as meatshields to keep making Anti-Israel propaganda.

Hamas would record an infant getting skinned & raped alive so they could claim it was done by Israel.

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silverbell215@reddit

There is no evidence to the claim you’re making.

There is however evidence of the IDF intentionally sniping civilians and purposely bombing their targets, civilians.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-operations-in-hospitals/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/12/20/hamas-member-admits-it-uses-hospital-as-command-center/

"No evidence"

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PushSingle6250@reddit

you use the ny times and idf as sources and bitch about aljazeera lol

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Lmao, so what source should I use then? Palestine & Hamas?

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PushSingle6250@reddit

unless you trust a literal army of degenerate terrorists and modern day nazis more trust worthy than the un and all human rights organizations on the planet

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

unless you trust a literal army of degenerate terrorists and modern day nazis

Modern day nazis? Ah yes, the nation which has 20% of its population as arabs, which supports womens & LGBTQ+ rights and is harbouring queer Palestinian people away from Hamas (who have been known to torture their own for being queer) is the modern day Nazis and not the ones who have made it clear they'd gladly start another Holocaust if given the chance. Real smart of you bud.

than the un and all human rights organizations on the planet

The UN? The one which refused to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organisation? That UN?

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PushSingle6250@reddit

no not the pink washed civilized state israeli apologists paint to the world when lobbying around the globe ,the apartheid settler colonial state where one set of people are being continually dispossessed and opressed and killed systemically

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-aparthhttps://operationalsupport.un.org/en/israels-illegal-occupation-of-palestinian-territory-tantamount-to-settler-colonialism-un-experteid

https://www.btselem.org/topic/settlements

this is barely the tip of the iceberg of a mountain of all kinds of crimes and atrocities israelis and their allies within and without the middle east commit in palestine and the surrounding countries including abduction of kids ,genocide, targeting journalists and civilians ,rape ,arson, torture, land theft , targeting vital infrastructure ,siege you name it

keep in mind these aren't allegations or some propaganda talking points pushed by israeli lapdogs unto media in which they have leverage and their proof being their renowned trustworthy word for it, this is well documented verifiable and reported by all sorts of human rights organisations and independent sources

you can choose to be israeli apologiser go ahead but don't forget to mention what you choose to ignore and that you have agenda which aligns with the israeli project despite its atrocious nature and don't play the pink-washing civilized victim israeli bs

or you can choose to remove the blindfold to these atrocities and be a decent human being on the right side of history.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Man's complaining about using biased information when one of his sources is extremely biased against Israel. Ain't that something. https://david-collier.com/amnesty-international-obsession/

Maybe if you stopped consuming sources from organisations which have a hate boner towards Israel you'd stop spouting such BS. Only 1 Nation in the Middle East thus far supports Womens Rights & LGBTQ+ rights, and only 1 nation thus far have given their minorities full legal rights (although it does have problems with racism, I will give you that). Remind me again how Jewish people are treated in Arab nations.

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PushSingle6250@reddit

it all so happens that any and every official human rights organization (including Israeli ones "betselem" for one) and the UN and any independent sources that report on israeli atrocities with heaps of documentation and verifiable evidence happen to be biased and untrustworthy while israeli or israeli funded propaganda or aligned news sources are reliable

how convenient

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

(including Israeli ones "betselem" for one)

Jessica Montell, the former CEO of Betslem supports the work of Al-Haq's CEO Shawan Jabarin whole-heartedly. Shawan Jabarin was proven in court to be a member of the terrorist group "The Popular Front". Here and here

Here is a quick translation of a part of the first link, which, again, is a court decision: "And yet, the petitioner apparently works in the pattern of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, in some of his hours he is the CEO of a human rights organization, and others he operates in a terrorist organization that does not have any problem committing murder and attempted murder, and which does not have a thing with rights, worse, negates the most basic right of all, the right to life.")

How convenient indeed.

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PushSingle6250@reddit

again if the PPL is a terrorist organisation and quote on quote " supporting the work of a member of it whole-heartedly" according to hebrew sources (lol) is reasonable grounds to dismiss every claim it made regardless of the overwhelming evidence that overlaps and is consistent with other sources

then no source that has ever been associated with the IDF or Israeli goverment officials has any legs to stand on as the IDF and the Israeli government are guilty of apartheid and illegal settlment and occupation according to the Hague

" Landmark ruling of 19 July 2024 declared that Israel's occupation of the Gaza strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is unlawful, along with the associated settlement regime, annexation and use of natural resources", "Israel's policies and practices amount either to apartheid or to racial segregation"

on top of ongoing ICC investigation which found a plausible case for genocide which required a significant burden of proof and ordered israel to comply with the investigation and apply measures that israel refused to apply both hearings

The Court considers that, in conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, Israel must immediately halt its military offensive, and any other action in the Rafah Governorate, which may inflict on the Palestinian group in Gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. The Court recalls that, in its Order of 26 January 2024, it ordered Israel, inter alia, to “take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of Article II and Article III of [the Genocide Convention]”. In the present circumstances, the Court is also of the view that, in order to preserve evidence related to allegations of acts falling within the scope of Article II and Article III of the Genocide Convention, Israel must take effective measures to ensure the unimpeded access to the Gaza Strip of any commission of inquiry, fact-finding mission or other investigative body mandated by competent organs of the United Nations to investigate allegations of genocide.

"The Court considers that, in conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, Israel must immediately halt its military offensive, and any other action in the Rafah Governorate, which may inflict on the Palestinian group in Gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. The Court recalls that, in its Order of 26 January 2024, it ordered Israel, inter alia, to “take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of Article II and Article III of [the Genocide Convention]”. In the present circumstances, the Court is also of the view that, in order to preserve evidence related to allegations of acts falling within the scope of Article II and Article III of the Genocide Convention, Israel must take effective measures to ensure the unimpeded access to the Gaza Strip of any commission of inquiry, fact-finding mission or other investigative body mandated by competent organs of the United Nations to investigate allegations of genocide."

all articles are readily available on the website of ICC and I'm sure you will go ahead and dismiss it using usual mental gymnastics genocide and apartheid apologists use when confronted with evidence that exposes how full of shit you are

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PushSingle6250@reddit

there are several un reports showing footage and detailing how the israelis use civilians as human shields in both gaza and the west bank not to mention the numerous other war crimes israel commits on a daily basis

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sergy777@reddit

Exactly. You got it right. And all useful idiots around the world will be condemning Israel.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Nah, call em potential enemy recruits.

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Discipline_Cautious1@reddit

Who is shipping ammuition to Israel?

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Pekamaan@reddit

Finaly.. signs of inteligent life in the reddit catacombs.. and endagered species being stomped out by the doofious stupidicus invasive native species has survivours

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tokopadi@reddit

you can tell from the way they chant there is a serious brain damage involved.

get well soon comandres

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Pekamaan@reddit

Same can be said for redditors

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

These morons are one of the reasons why Greece is a joke of a country nowadays...

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pk851667@reddit

:: nervously laughs in diasporic Greek ::

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

I was forced to join the diaspora a few years ago to study in a German university because the uni's in my country are shit holes because of Greek leftist retardos who think they are Che Guevara or something

Most of them are spoiled retards whose parents were PASOK voters who leached off the government.

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kotrogeor@reddit

My university can't fit the amount of students it has.

It doesn't have dorm rooms for students that aren't from the area.

It has labs with lacking equipment.

Some classes require for students to go and buy their books.

The cost of living is so high, that you can't afford rent. But if you work, then your studies are compromised, and you'll be kicked out if you take longer than n+2 years.

Bosses are forcing young workers to work 10+ hours, illegally, sometimes without even tips, for like, 3 euros an hour. And they're being left unchecked.

Most masters programs cost over 6.000 euros, and there are no free ones.

EKPA, which is the largest university in Greece, has ceilings that drip water onto students, and get ice during the winter, that sometmes falls down during lectures.

NTUA, which is the most important university in Greece, can't afford basic engineering tools for their lab projects.

Could you tell me, how are the leftists related to any of these damning problems? (And yet still many of our unis rank within the top 200-800 globally).

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Pekamaan@reddit

taps sign its reddit

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usernamisntimportant@reddit

So the real problem in Greek universities are the aesthetics the students bring, and not the lack of funding by the government? And these aesthetics forced you to study in Germany?

Did you maybe not pass the panhellenic exams to enter one of the nicer Greek universities?

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

Lololololol

So the real problem in Greek universities are the aesthetics the students bring, and not the lack of funding by the government?

Porque no los dos?

Did you maybe not pass the panhellenic exams to enter one of the nicer Greek universities?

Yeah that's exactly what happened. I wasnt good enough for the Greek Harvard so I went to Germany...what is Germany right? A shithole

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Pekamaan@reddit

No its reddit

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usernamisntimportant@reddit

Why did you post your reply twice?

Porque no los dos?

*por qué

Because aesthetics isn't a problem, it's subjective, and arguing about it is the death of honest conversation and progress. It's definitely not something you leave or enter a university for as a reasonable person.

Yeah that's exactly what happened. I wasnt good enough for the Greek Harvard so I went to Germany...what is Germany right? A shithole

The majority of German universities are worse than the top Greek universities, where you can study if you perform well enough in the entry exams. It's also absolutely not necessary to study in a top German univeristy as an undergraduate if you want the best quality. Maybe if it actually was Harvard I could see your point, but there are no particularly great universities in continental Europe that far outclass the best Greek ones in undergraduate studies, and the two that maybe do are in Switzerland.

Usually you would want to leave Greece for post-graduate study, as most top students do.

What are you studying?

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

Lololololol

So the real problem in Greek universities are the aesthetics the students bring, and not the lack of funding by the government?

Porque no los dos?

Did you maybe not pass the panhellenic exams to enter one of the nicer Greek universities?

Yeah that's exactly what happened. I wasnt good enough for the Greek Harvard so I went to Germany...what is Germany right? A shithole

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pk851667@reddit

:: laughs nervously in diasporic Greek who is a descendent of Resistance fighters who were ACTUALLY exiled by the people who collaborated with the Nazis they were fighting and were then installed into power by the west in order to keep their sphere of influence intact ::

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

"Ooga booga everyone who wasn't a communist was a Nazi ooga booga"

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pk851667@reddit

“Ooga booga only the leftists are the corrupt ones in Greece and the right is incredibly pro business and bringing serious investment into Greece. Oh the rents in Athens are now fucked because everything is now an AirBnB and any new building are super luxury apartments that not one Greek on a normal corporate salary could ever afford doesn’t mean anything. It’s investment. All the other problems are the leftists’ fault.”

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

Strawman much kid? I never said New Democracy was good so what are you going on about? Actually, if you look at their political practices, they were just copying PASOK since the 80s lol

But yeah, since the 80s the left has done the most damage, that is a fact

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pk851667@reddit

No question. But throwing out that people who think they are Che ruined everything is just as much a throwing a straw man as mine above.

If you want to make an argument, don’t use these things pejoratively… it shows biases rather than actually making people listen to a perfectly reasonable gripe. Also, one labor union isn’t the reason a country has problems. It’s very much a ruling class of people all on the same families completely complacent with the status quo. In the reason why the country STILL doesn’t have a completed land registry… 200 years post independence.

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

Also, one labor union isn’t the reason a country has problems.

Jesus Christ do you people even pay attention to what other people say. I said "one of the reasons". Of course it's not the only one🤡

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Pekamaan@reddit

No.. you are on reddit.. its not readit..

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pk851667@reddit

Delete more of your replies. You have a good thing going there.

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

What?

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pk851667@reddit

Also,

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

gif

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CrazyGreekReloaded@reddit

Most delulu user is you

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pk851667@reddit

This was obviously a joke

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Expert-Scientist-940@reddit

Spoken like a true Turk

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

Lol sure

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

These "morons" are one of the reasons I still haven't given up my hopes on Greece completely.

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AlegusChopChop@reddit

F off commie. Greece has been run by leftist morons these past 40 years and it has become a shit hole (not to say that it was a paradise before btw). You deps are lucky you lost the bandit war in 1949, if you had won back then you would have had the same fate as the dictator of Romania and Greece would now be a country without leftist traitors, heading towards a better future like Poland, the Baltic states and our neighboring countries, who are surpassing us.

I wish you all good luck migrating to Bulgaria and Romania, countries that are surpassing us due to free market policies, once your turd of a country has been destroyed by its lazy, leftist population of retards.

Now, go do what leftist Greeko morons can do best, throw Molotov cocktails at some poor guys car or vandalize a university kiddo. Dont worry, Greeks are retarded enough to vote for people like you, like they did Tsipras...

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HarisCapo@reddit

This will get removed because reddit is jew

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modsneed2shower@reddit

idk why you are getting downvoted, everyone knows reddit treats jews like an animal close to extinction

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Huh?

Subs like r/ThereWasAnAttempt are extremely pro Palestine. r/Palestine has 200k+ members.

Where the Hell did you get that idea from?

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modsneed2shower@reddit

i have been noticing more and more pro Palestine subs yes, but that's not the norm, combat footage, military sub, and many others are all pro judaic

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Pekamaan@reddit

They like footage of "Untermenchen" off their "Lebensraum"

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Confident-Fondant460@reddit

So anti-Semitism is okay then?

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modsneed2shower@reddit

being critical of certain people doesn't make you racist or xenophobic, I don't have to be antisemitic to say that Israel is committing war crimes and the world is acting like they are doing nothing, Serbia got bombed by the US for much less destruction and murder, times magazine was writing articles about how they are bringing the terrorist Serbs to heel, however today we have proven instances of horrendous war crimes, children being targeted with precise drone strikes and yet the US barely does anything, if being antisemitic means standing up to genocidal cowards who kill children, call me an antisemite any day bud

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

THIS. The Western hypocrisy must come to an end.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Nah.. you are on a weatern platfrom echochamber number 2

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Due_Upstairs_5025@reddit

All I see in this video is oligarchs. It's the oligarchs whom benefit from the munitions and NATO logistics getting blocked off.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Get of reddit.

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Love_Radioactivity84@reddit

Communism has been defeated

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Accomplished_Lake_41@reddit

Saying Jews are communists is probably the most Anti-Semitic propaganda out there

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Pekamaan@reddit

Welcome to reddit

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Love_Radioactivity84@reddit

Bro didn’t get it. Communists (the people here) keep riding a dead ghost. Its defeated. The anti-Jewish hate still lingers from Soviet era though

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MentalniManipulator@reddit

I am so glad in Croatia we don't have such a group of pitiful and sad ignorant people. Israel deserves all the help it can get in its war against terrorism.

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Tarikccix@reddit

Lmao, what did croats do to jews betwen 41-45

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Pekamaan@reddit

Dont bother its battered german syndrome

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sjedinjenoStanje@reddit

We were just talking about in an another thread that Russia manipulates western public opinion on social media and here we are.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Slava rossir! We shall destroy your liberty, glory to emperor putin!!!!

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Scarface19999@reddit

Everyone will say based until the learn that all these are member of the Greek communist party (KKE)

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Even more based.

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LoresVro@reddit

Nothing based about genocidal freaks.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Who is genocidal?

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LoresVro@reddit

Communists. It takes about five seconds for a communist to say something incredibly twisted. There's a reason why people call them TANKIES.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

How is the KKE specifically genocidal?

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

It's rather anti-genocidal, because it opposes the genocide of Palestinians by Israel.

If Israel wanted to commit genocide, not even ashes would've remained of Gaza by now.

And it's so genocidal it's currently open to safe keep Palestinian LGBTQ+ memhers who were at risk of being killed in Palestine.

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Pekamaan@reddit

Why would you burn lebensraum?

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

What about hitting hospitals or schools? Demolishing residential buildings?

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

The hospitals which were being used by Hamas to store weapons underneath tunnels? Those hospitals?

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

I don't how much of this is true and how much is Israeli propaganda, but the bombing of hospitals is not justified even if Hamas stores weapons underneath them.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

but the bombing of hospitals is not justified even if Hamas stores weapons underneath them.

...Then what exactly do you suppose they do? Using hospitals and schools to hide weapons while using civilians as human shields is considered as a war crime and the fault of any deaths that might occur is entirely within the people who placed them there.

And no, it's not Israeli propaganda either.

Source: https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/14/hamas-human-shields-tactic/

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Two wrongs don't make a right. But...

If Hamas is in the wrong for hiding weapons in hospitals and was in the wrong for the October 7th attack, wasn't Israel wrong before that for occupying Gaza and West Bank, then financing Hamas and finally not doing anything to prevent the October 7th attack before it happened, just so they have an excuse for whatever they're doing now? They obviously knew about it because Mossad is one of the best security agencies if not the best.

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

Israel left Gaza in 2005, and the October 7th attack's main fault lies with Sinwar for organising it and Netanyahu's incompetence.

then financing Hamas

I will give you that however. The main reason Hamas was financed at the time was to undermine another terrorist oganisation (PLO).

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Israel left Gaza in 2005

Yes, some Israeli settlements were dismantled but Gaza remained under direct occupation by Israel.

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puzzledpanther@reddit

I mean I'd never vote for them but how the fuck is the KKE genocidal?

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Pekamaan@reddit

Another bait post but this time theres more to troll and more feud. Nice!

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CecilPeynir@reddit

If they are so anti-Israel, why do they carry the Israeli flag? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Greece Smh😤

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

Are you blind or something?

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Another_WeebOnReddit@reddit (OP)

it's a joke about how some pro-Palestinians were destorying Greek and Finnish flags because they thought they were Israeli flags.

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CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit

It was not pro-Palestinians but either pure idiots doing it for the "views" or saboteurs working to destroy the image of real pro-Palestinians by making them look like idiots. Then also, although I'm far from being a patriot, I feel kind of offended when the Greek flag is being compared to the flag of Israel.

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CecilPeynir@reddit

r/woooosh

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Dominus-Augustus@reddit

Very strange to understand greek foreign politics sometimes. Does this group represent a large political party?

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Axil_GR@reddit

They represent KKE, the Greek Communist party that is strongly anti-NATO, anti-EU, pro-Russia etc. In parliamentary elections they peak at 7%

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RandomRavenboi@reddit

the Greek Communist party that is strongly anti-NATO, anti-EU, pro-Russia etc.

Well, that makes sense.

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