Has anyone else noticed this sub has been recently invaded by “communists” and pro-Russia tankies?
Posted by Archaeopteryx11@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 163 comments
I’ve noticed them getting a lot more upvotes now spewing anti-EU, pro-Putin, tankie nonsense about how the global capitalist cabal is pitting Ukrainians and Russians against each other and shit like that. Is it delusional teenagers, or is it bot farms?
No-Quantity-6267@reddit
Tbh - I have no issues with communists. Only with thr pro russian crowd. But those guys are normally just serbs, most of the cases. Or some other far right orthodox christians of the romanians, and greeks. Or those stupid jugoslav socialists, who are nostalgic about the past, that hasn't been good in reality for certain people.
Ghost_Online_64@reddit
People still exist who think Russia is anywhere near the left, let alone communist. Thats delusional.
Ever since the desolution of the USSR, Russia is Authoritarian right, not left
No-Quantity-6267@reddit
You got that one right. Many online tankies are just cringe, and out of touch. Saying this as a socialist myself.
ridesharegai@reddit
Modern day Russia is the result of communism. Or at least an attempt at communism. Funny how any attempt at communism goes horribly wrong. What makes it crazy is that people still want to try it.
Ghost_Online_64@reddit
Its almost as if 1. Humans arent ready for it socially due to corruption that exists in every political and economic model (like capitalism too) and 2. the strongest capitalist nation on earth did EVERYTHING within its reach to make sure anything communist is crushed and portaited as worse.
Adventurous-Pause720@reddit
That is literally not true; pre-World Wars America is the greatest example of this.
Here's the thing, the world is not perfect. In an online FPS, you make the best with the start point that you get; if you lose once, you can maybe go "oH, bRo, It WaS bEcAuSe I sPaWnEd By ThE tOwEr InStEaD oF tHe RiVeR" or whatever, but after 100 games of failure, if you're still doing that, you're just hooked up on Qing Dynasty opium. Contemporary capitalism started out on an isolated island and a marshy lowland in Northwest Europe in the early modern era and has since swept the entire world. Your ideology has to be resilient, and if even with the countless communist regimes of the past century, it still wound up failing, then it indicates an underlying structural weakness.
The USSR did not collapse due to American intervention. The Eastern Bloc did not collapse due to American intervention. Yugoslavia did not fall due to American intervention. Vietnam and China did not switch to Capitalism due to American intervention. Those countries accounted for 1 1/2 billion people or nearly a third of the global population. Doing this "iT wAs Le EvIl AmErAkAnOi" shit is no different from the stab-in-the-back theory. "Oh actually, we were so close to winning, but the evil Jews/Armenians/Americans/Albanians/Karelians/Crimean Tatars/etc. sabatoged us!!! 🤬🤬🤬"
-Against-All-Gods-@reddit
Isolated my ass. Is that why they were doing a banana war every two years?
This_Meaning_4045@reddit
That guy above is very defensive about America and its foreign policy.
Pekamaan@reddit
Least nationalistic american redditor
Pekamaan@reddit
Dont bother, its bait and echochamberlins
ridesharegai@reddit
Omg yes blame America for everything
Ghost_Online_64@reddit
Ghost_Online_64@reddit
Its a game that is literally played by the top players. In this case USA, USSR and now China...Who do you blame for their influence, investment , and effort, to bring down their competitors? Fuckign Panama ?
Tony-Angelino@reddit
It's not the communism people want again and again, it's social justice. The majority of people got fucked by every system so far - ancient slavery, feudalism, authoritarian implementation of "communism" or capitalism without checks gone too far, where people have to do three jobs and still cannot afford rent. The people in control just slap the "communism" tag to it, because it's easy to scare others with that. If you could believe that. Of course it doesn't make sense to you. Nobody wants Stalin, Mao or Kim Jong Un.
If everything was set right and worked perfectly, people wouldn't think about changes. And it is a catalyst for improvement, otherwise we would still be stuck with ancient social constructs. This what we have now is also not an ultimate perfect solution and also needs refinement. It's not communism, but some updates are definitely needed.
And yeah, fuck Putin.
TolgaBaey@reddit
If you want those things then you want Communism simple as.
Tony-Angelino@reddit
What things?
MasterGenieHomm5@reddit
Lying, authoritarian, hypocritical, murderous, bad for people, heavily state controlled. Russia does in fact have a lot in common with commie states and their supporters.
Ghost_Online_64@reddit
Funnily enough, you just described all top world powers . Good job at being unable to critically think for yourself :D
skvids@reddit
dont bother, USians would rather 99% of people starve than 1% get food without having pissed blood for it
MasterGenieHomm5@reddit
No, it's a good way to tell apart normal people and ideologically vain idiots.
JRJenss@reddit
Everything you described pertains to fascism too and honestly, at the moment Russia with its oligarch system, anti-liberal trad values, militarism, pushed patriotism, strict hierarchy, attacking other countries for blood and soil...etc., slants more towards fascism.
MasterGenieHomm5@reddit
Yeah and hence why a lot of people including me believe in the horseshoe theory of the far right and far left being closer to each other than to moderates.
I'm sure you will agree, communism is not the opposite of fascism when it comes to authoritarianism and the things I described. They are sisters ideologies, and their supporters have many similarities as well.
Soviet Russia pretty much.
AideSpartak@reddit
That’s kind of not true though. The majority of the sub is anti-Putin and from the rest most are neutral rather than pro-Putin. There are a lot of various forms of left leaning or straight up left people but that has always been the case, especially on Reddit.
Pekamaan@reddit
I am pro-Putin.. i have my reasons, and people have theirs to be neutrall or anti.. thats fine..
AideSpartak@reddit
I don’t care though. The vast majority of the sub isn’t and that was what the post was about
Pekamaan@reddit
Truth, usually people react like they ate 3 lemons at the same time with a side of limes
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
To these people, being neutral is being pro-Putin. Then in the same breath they will complain about "polarization and extreme opinions"
Pekamaan@reddit
We are in agreement..
AideSpartak@reddit
Yeah but that is still weird because as someone who is extremely anti-Putin like me, regardless of what you think about people who are neutral/don’t care/aren’t informed at all, the objective reality is that this sub is overwhelmingly anti-Putin and very far from being “invaded”
MustafoInaSamaale@reddit
How you gonna claim to be communist then support the oligarch rump state that is Russia💀 that country is practicing capitalism with none of the perks
OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit
They're ideology is just "West bad" so they support everyone who is against the West even if it contradicts the ideology they claim to have.
These are the same people who support Iran (a theocratic shithole who ruined it's relations with the USSR by putting Communists in prison) and Assad (a Fascist dictator at war with Socialist Kurdish rebels).
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Sounds like they're being realistic, and you're the one with an ideology?
OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit
Realistic ? You can't support someone who is against your ideology just because you happen to agree with them on something. This is just "Chickens for KFC" mentality.
If you're a Communist at lest support Communists not Islamists who put Communists behind bars or Capitalist oligarchies you claim to be against.
Pekamaan@reddit
Enemy of my enemy who is my lesser enemy is a trade parther , ally and buisness partner... dont ask why in the 70s yugoslavia sold tanks to the middle east and had a student exchange program in africa.. "communism is when people starve and die in human wave tactics in mass scale" - Reddit
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Good thing Marxism isn't an ideology then.
Severe_Weather_1080@reddit
No? What is it then, because if you say some shit like it’s a science I’m going to die laughing.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
It's a discipline that practically applies accumulated knowledge of mankind across many fields, namely economics, politics, and history.
Pekamaan@reddit
Dont bother, its reddit these people are somehow more delusional than the german people during 44
janesmex@reddit
People who support Russian invasion lack critical thinking. Also some of them are tankies, but others are far-right authoritarians.
Perazdera68@reddit
Are they communist or fiar right, you have brains to realize both cant be true?
ciprian-miles@reddit
*75% of Serbs*
kruska345@reddit
There are tons of self named communists who do cheer for Russia and their gang. Its unfortunate that they arent aware of how stupid they are
Pekamaan@reddit
Bait posts..
HOW DARE THESE "PEOPLE" EXIST IN MY ECHO CHAMBER!!!!1!
Its the balkans, its more conservative than the average western country, so the oppinions are more conservative, the tankies and commies were here all along, eather silent or stoped using this reddit cause its the same baitpost from non balkaners askig their political oppinions of x y z.. and if they dont get x awnser promted and instead get z or y, babyrage screaming contests, lynch mobs and downvote brigades erupt from both as the meaning of faschism changes its contex from histotical to "guy with opposing view"
glorychildthe@reddit
I know Russia has actual bot farm programs. I see them predominantly on Twitter and Instagram, but it would make sense they would target Reddit as well. A lot of the strategy with the bots is to create division within the Western world and its sphere of influence, that's why bot comments always attack the other side, they are meant to create a sense of real division within society. The problem is that the bots make it seem that pretty niche attitudes in certain European countries and the US (pro-Russia attitudes) are actually more popular than in reality. This then normalizes these ideas and then popularizes them, even though all of these views are based on lies and ahistorical narratives.
LibertyChecked28@reddit
You need to understand one simple fact:
-No country would conscript a bot against a person who's very upper mental capacity is no different that that of a Chatbot.
You are what you own to destory!
Anti_Thing@reddit
How common do you think pro-Russia attitudes genuinely are in Romania?
glorychildthe@reddit
Tough to say really, in the big cities with young people they are very rare. But we do have on political party, AUR, that has been growing steadily in popularity which is more likely to have people support them that would lean more pro-Russia. I would say they are in the top 3 of parties currently for popularity. But again I think most of us are so predisposed to dislike Russia that the AUR populists may have to distance themselves from the pro-Russia stances to keep growing, and I think they are already not mentioning a lot of their old views in this presidential election
RevolutionaryBet3923@reddit
Um, excuse me, but that comment is, like, so bogus. It’s totally far-fetched to claim that pro-Russian peeps are, like, invading the Balkans subreddit. Such a claim lacks any, like, empirical evidence or logical basis. One must critically analyze the situation and not fall for baseless accusations.
Let’s, like, not jump to conclusions based on, like, rumors and unsubstantiated claims. It’s important to maintain objectivity and not succumb to sensationalist rhetoric. Such a conjecture is as asinine as a cat attempting to fly with naught but feathers affixed to its fur. The inherent nature of this subreddit’s discourse, intertwined with the intricate web of geopolitical dynamics, renders such an incursion implausible and devoid of substance. Let us not be swayed by baseless rumors and instead adhere to the principles of critical thinking and discernment in our digital milieu.
So, yeah, let’s, like, not perpetuate false narratives, mkay?
LibertyChecked28@reddit
Just keep in mind for the future that any form of critical thinking like this will get you filtered by Reddit (and you in fact did got filtered by Reddit 💀)
New-Interaction1893@reddit
If you check r/Europe it's various years that half of the comments are from anti-EU bots and trolls.
You probably noticed it only now.
LibertyChecked28@reddit
Yea, the Neo-Libtards who call EU federation and then for eugenics programs on the "enemies of the EU" and purge of the 3rd world.
Guys so openly liberal that even r/Europe has to purge them every 2 weeks in order to not get the sub banned.
TheNobelLaureateCrow@reddit
Yep, they have been mass downvoting and spamming propaganda. Mods pls ban all Z
LibertyChecked28@reddit
Pls go touch some grass.
Impressive-Shame4516@reddit
15% bot/troll farms and the rest are delusional teenagers.
LibertyChecked28@reddit
"15% bot/troll farms and the rest are delusional teenagers."
-A politically polarised normie that isn't even from the Balkans to beguin with.
31_hierophanto@reddit
From both the left and the right, of course.
Impressive-Shame4516@reddit
That's the whole point. Russian disinfo doesn't only pump out neo-fascist reactionary cronism, but anything hyper-divisive to get people hooked on dogmatic and polarizing politics. They could care less if western countries go the whole mile and ideologically align with them, just as long as we're disorganized and unable to compete.
glorychildthe@reddit
exactly, and any politics towards the extreme left or right will lead to a less united Europe. I always think how Putin talks about de-Nazification in Ukraine, but the best thing that could happen for Russia in Europe is a Nazi or fascist party coming to power in any of the powerful countries of the EU. It would cause enough division for Russia to go invade the Baltics or Poland or whoever they see fit.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
The war in Ukraine is wrapping up. What you're witnessing is a small number of pro-Russian people coming to gloat over the utter humiliation and defeat of NATO.
Natopor@reddit
Bro be like: Nato is getting humiliated
My brother in Chirst, Nato isn't even fighting in this war. So your saying your in a war with Nato and Nato has yet to suffer any death. Talk about who is getting humiliated.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
High school meme verbiage aside, do you truly believe it's a point in your favour that NATO has no balls to involve themselves directly beyond false flags, covert operations, and material support for their fascist satellite state?
Natopor@reddit
The cope is strong with this one :P
NATO is more powerful then russia. USA alone is stronger. EU alone is stronger. Russia is a thrid world country with Nukes.
Yes you are humiliated. You can't dedeat Ukraine in 2 years, how are you going to beat NATO which is thousands of time stronger then Ukraine? You can't.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Yet despite all your fantasies of "NATO/American/EU supremacy", the Ukraine proxy state and by extension NATO still stands humiliated and defeated, by a third world country no less. What does that tell us?
Natopor@reddit
it tell us that your a russian propagandist and a bad one at it.
Unlike Russia NATO doesn't go around picking fight and threatening nuclear war.
ah so you admit it.
Russia is the one who is humiliated by Ukraine while NATO watches. I don't know what fantasy world you live in but it's not real.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Tell me you're completely ignorant of history and geopolitics without telling me you're completely ignorant of history and geopolitics
Why are you talking about things you know nothing about, little boy?
SeaworthinessWide172@reddit
Russia doesn't even control the Donbas after almost 3 years of war let alone controlling the 4 Ukrainian oblasts that they officially annexed to the Russian federation.
So, after 3 years of this 3 day SMO, literally thousands of destroyed russian tanks, tens of thousands of dead Russians, the black sea destroyed with its flagship on the bottom of the sea, russian territory in Kursk occupied by Ukrainians and long range strikes deep into Russia...NATO and Ukraine are somehow the ones humiliated.
But the hilarious part is that you think anybody with an above room temperature IQ falls for this massive fucking cope, lol, lmao even.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
You're regurgitating all the CNN/NAFO talking points - none of which amount to anything - yet I'm the one coping? The only thing you forgot to mention was the Ghost of Kiev. Sorry, Kyiiiiiiv.
The fact of the matter is that the war will end however Russia wants it to end, and no imagined victories can change that. There is no doubt anymore that Russia will achieve all of it's starting objectives (demilitarization of the Ukraine, denazification of the Ukraine, neutral status of the Ukraine, liberation of Donbas + the two additional oblasts). The only question is what else will they decide to demand.
slimebor@reddit
Ukraine is not even NATO 💀 And I personally really doubt that Trump is actually ending any wars
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
It's a NATO satellite state and proxy, fighting this war on behalf of NATO.
Who said anything about Trump? The Russians are ending it.
slimebor@reddit
It gets lot of aid from NATO countries, yes. But If Ukraine was owned by NATO or EU or USA or whatever then the big countries (like USA or Germany) wouldn't waste "their own war" with delayed artillery shipments or paranoia that a Taurus missile can somehow make ww3. What happened right after Avdiivka wasn't even "small aid to keep the war going"
I agree that the front doesn't look for Ukraine in most places but saying that its gonna end soon is lowkey stupid. Manpower shortages started being overcome with mobilization and artillery shortage is not happening rn. Those were the main issues in defensive battles
For example Kursk salient is a small feint from Ukraine and its not yet broken, the new Kharkiv offensive is still stalled, their raid into Kupyansk recently failed Ukrainians reported that Chasiv yar was in a endangerable position months ago and it has gone into stalemate for most of the battle, Luhansk oblast line is still in stalemate after 2 years etc. They can't do a miracle offensive that collapses the lines, takes the big cites and destroys the armies in just a year or so
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Economically, it's owned by Blackrock and western debts. (Geo)politically, the only leg Ukraine has to stand on is the one of NATO/the west. I mean their whole government apparatus was directly installed by an illegal undemocratic CIA coup, so what national sovereignty does the Ukraine have? None at all.
I'm confused, how is the fact that the West is in a state of total collapse and has no balls to support their very own satellite supposed to be a valid point for your argument?
You should look up and educate yourself on what happened to all other American proxies and satellites throughout history. Such as the Afghan Mujahedin, Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Syrian rebels, Kurdish rebels, Bosnia, Libyan rebels, and so on. They're always discarded when they're not needed anymore - as is happening to the Ukraine now. As Henry Kissinger said, "it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."
That depends on what you mean by "soon". The war is all but decided, and - as a true satellite state - the only (vain) hope the Ukraine has is the one that NATO harry potter avengers will directly join the war. But we all know that isn't happening. So it all comes down to the choice the Ukraine is currently facing: concede all Russian demands (which, all things considered, aren't that extreme), or choose total capitulation.
The front tells a different tale. The strategy of press gangs routing up people to be sent untrained and unequipped into the meatgrinder realistically has zero chances of success. So it's either WW3 or total defeat.
NAFO cope. Kursk is a crushed offensive with zero results and countless casualties, Kharkov offensive isn't a real thing (for now). Kupyansk is ongoing and successful, Chasiv yar is falling as we speak, etc.
slimebor@reddit
Ah yes blackrock, the investment company that supposedly owns the world lol. Do you also believe in Jewish bankers owning America
And nah Euromaidan is not how CIA gets their way. The best they can do on that scale are the cold war coups and medium sized civil wars. If you actually talked to Ukrainians or met a refugee you would find plenty people who protested because of their own will
Ah yes, west in the state of collapse. What is your source on that? I can't actually think of anything
And if they did own Ukraine then they would have all the balls in the world
Except that by this logic Ukraine would still be needed because the war is still happening?
They aren't that extreme, only give up the whole east (beyond just pro-Russian towns), give up the whole coast (including Odessa according to Kadyrov), make a buffer zone in your own lands and hope that the population will have no removals or imported population! Then limit your armed forces and then wait for the next war in 8 years!!
They introduced a new mobilization. Press gangs play a bare role right now
Yeah, Kursk is just a small feint salient, and last I checked, Russia's amassed troops for a November counterattack there haven't made any new breakthroughs
Kharkiv offensive is absolutely real thing. Have you heard of fighting in Vovchansk and Liptsy perhaps? Russian milibloggers like 2Majors talk about it so Im not sure what your source is
Kupyansk offensive might be going fine but the raid did not. you can look up the Russian soldiers surrendering in the city. And chasiv yar was supposed to be falling long time ago
Mangogege@reddit
Comrades we did it(I am not even from the Balkans).
etnoexodus@reddit
OP really indirecting memebers over having opposing opinions to him. Surprise, surprise, not everyone thinks 1 way (thankfully)
Natopor@reddit
We can have different opinions. But when someone supports war, Putin's crimes and propaganda, then we have a problem
etnoexodus@reddit
Ahh, so we can have different opinions unless they are supporting the people against your beliefs. Nice, got it.
Natopor@reddit
Don't try to spin what I said.
Well if the people I am against are warmonger criminals then some will look at you badly.
By your logic we can allow any kind of apinion
Flat Earth? You got it!
The Axis were the good guys in www? Of corse man!
Bulgaria is rightfully Turkish land? 100%!
So yes, there is a point when some opinions aren't right.
etnoexodus@reddit
Do you not see how you impose your narrative. Well, what If I disagree that they are warmonger criminals?
All of a sudden, you realise you can not have an opinion unless it aligns with yours.
Maybe just accept your news source feed you propaganda and there are 2 sides to every story lmao. Close minded people preaching about other people's views will never fail to amuse me
Natopor@reddit
Ok then. Please tell me why they aren't. Let's see the two sides. I mean these talks already happened at the dtart of the war so your late at the party.
etnoexodus@reddit
How do you justify Ukranian military joining forces with Azov Nazis to target Russians?
Or is it justifiable when Ukraine do it and when your news channel does not comment on it.
Natopor@reddit
Quite the cherry picking with the Azov Regiment but ok. While they are definitely bad guys, they got in popularity thanks to Russian aggression. They were created as a response to the war in Donbass, started by Russia to prevent Ukraine from joining EU.
Not that it stopped Russia from having their own nazis.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/08/fact-check-man-pictured-swastika-tattoo-russian-not-ukranian/10838038002/
https://ukraineworld.org/en/articles/stories/russian-neo-nazi
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-neo-nazi-rusich-telegram-putin-war-crimes-1873703
We can speak about the many neo nazis groups in Russia. Sounds like Putin should first denazify Russia.
desiderkino@reddit
don't know or care about politics but a lot of deaths could be prevented if Ukraine did not ignored the peace talks. instead of sending all their men to die they could try to get a ceasefire and look for a more non-suicidal approach.
ColossusOfChoads@reddit
My prediction: Trump will offer a deal, Putin will say "no thanks, we want it all" and keep the machine rolling. Trump will throw a temper tantrum, and then after that, who knows?
desiderkino@reddit
my prediction : trump will solve it in a month ot something
kredokathariko@reddit
As an actual Russian leftist I absolutely hate Westoids excusing Russian imperialism and Putin's Bonapartist dictatorship
Our leaders like Kagarlitsky and Lobanov are either imprisoned or exiled, while those who claim to be our comrades cheer
Theban_Prince@reddit
Hey guys! We have a great leftist right here! Just ignore that he uses lingo right out of the incel/ far right online cesspool!
ColossusOfChoads@reddit
Seems to be a popular term on this sub, though.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Liberals, trotskiysts and agents of western NGOs.
kredokathariko@reddit
What specific ideology are you part of
I guarantee you that it too was repressed at some point, fucking Maoists were arrested (for charity events, no less).
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
As a Marxist, I don't believe in ideologies, but in the real world
ciprian-miles@reddit
when i read "As a Marxist" i immediately feel disgusted. I dont know who hurt you as a baby but i hope they pay for it in hell.
kredokathariko@reddit
Oh fuck off you know exactly what I mean
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Yeah but it should be pretty obvious from the things that I'm saying
Natopor@reddit
Why yes it does sadly. The same propaganda from 2 years ago.
TolgaBaey@reddit
Because, you can not cover the sun in mud. Communism is the pinnacle of human freedom and accomplishment and sooner or later we will achieve it.
a_bright_knight@reddit
No.
Maybe not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot, tankie or a delusional teenager. Wild, I know.
CrownOfAragon@reddit
Right. So many butthurt people on here. Imagine someone having a contradictory opinion about world affairs.
abcdefabcdef999@reddit
People are just trying to rationalize moronic takes. No sane person would support what Russia is doing.
Archaeopteryx11@reddit (OP)
Yes, you’re right, they could be from Serbia.
memescryptor@reddit
You sound like a bot tho.
AnalysisQuiet8807@reddit
Coming from you? Mate all your posts are so bot like
memescryptor@reddit
Let me help with that
a_bright_knight@reddit
Well, I am an AI assistant—so, not too far off! 😊 I'm here to help with any questions or tasks you have. What can I do for you today?
memescryptor@reddit
Shut up would be a good step.
a_bright_knight@reddit
Understood—I'll stay quiet. Reach out if you need anything!
Beautiful-Health-976@reddit
They have targeted Moldova and Georgia significantly. Recently, I have seen a tankie post that Georgia deserves what is coming for them, because they allow abortion as a christian nation.
SomeOneOutThere-1234@reddit
Isn’t communism against religion because it’s the opium of the people?
kruska345@reddit
Yes. The OPs description sounds more like a far right white nationalist
skvids@reddit
i hate those far left wing terrorists, always wanting to establish free markets
SomeOneOutThere-1234@reddit
To be fair, most communists that I’ve met in Greece are Very religious boomers, hilariously
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Beautiful-Health-976@reddit
Tankies use and say whatever suits them
Anti_Thing@reddit
Russia allows abortion under similar rules as Georgia 💀 I'm pretty sure that Georgians are also more devout & more socially conservative than Russians, on average.
sjedinjenoStanje@reddit
Russia has been boosting voices online that repeat their garbage, so I wouldn't be surprised. It's a low-cost way of manipulating western public opinion.
Archaeopteryx11@reddit (OP)
I saw a Croatian person spewing tankie commie nonsense about Ukraine. My jaw dropped. Is that a common viewpoint in Ukraine?
AirWolf231@reddit
Not really, Croatia is generally pro Ukraine... But I do love debating the Croat idiots who are pro russian since russia invaded Ukraine under similar false pretenses like Serbia invaded Croatia. Sooooooo, they have to wiggle out of my "so you support the Serbian invasion of Croatia in the 90s?" question that I eventually end up on.(I love it because the only two options are, "no" that makes them a hypocrite or "yes" that makes them a traitor)
Zandroe_@reddit
I'm pretty sure I'm the "Croatian person" in question. It's a laughably incorrect statement; I don't support Russia. As for the rest, however, I'm a proud traitor. I would not have supported the RSK (Serbia did not invade Croatia). But neither would I have supported the HDZ regime and it's "Homeland war". In fact my orientation toward this crap in Ukraine is to a large part a reflection of the disdain I feel for any idiot who picked a side to cheerlead in the nineties.
Mucklord1453@reddit
It’s the mood of most people now. Bot farms ? lol. Did the bot farms also vote for Trump, because he won and is also anti globalist
Anti_Thing@reddit
Putin is a globalist, too.
AlexMile@reddit
Sounds like truth.
wereallfuckedL@reddit
Go travel freely in the eu to calm down… oh wait.
AlexMile@reddit
I did. Prague, Wien, Budapest, Venice. What fuss about that? Is that considered as some sort of superpower in Bulgaria?
geniuslogitech@reddit
you can't anymore since few days ago, you need to apply before for a stay in EU and need to state what border crossing you are entering and what border crossing you will be exiting on what exact date
AlexMile@reddit
Oh, my doom! So, now if I feel for traveling abroad easy, I need to go somewhere else? OK by me.
geniuslogitech@reddit
it's not just for staying there, to pass too, if you want to catch a plane from Bulgaria/Hungary to go to China or something, or if you want to go to Turkey by car or whatever
Stverghame@reddit
Ohhh nooo, our life is ruineeeed. What should we do now?😭😭😭😭😭
Slavic_Dusa@reddit
Welcome to Reddit, where many subs are overtaken by Russian and Israeli propaganda machines.
Mikhailo_Miki@reddit
Obviously you don't know what communism is, to write this kind of nonsense. There is no parallel link between Marxism and a fascist oligarchy like present-day Russia.
Expert-Scientist-940@reddit
Bro is scared of different, non state-mandated opinions. How sad and pathetic.
AnnoyingRomanian@reddit
It's not something new, since Ukraine war started alot of anti-eu bots and anti-Ukraine appeared, muh tankies are like cockroaches only on internet in the darkest spots they show themselves.
a_bright_knight@reddit
lol, as if anti eu narrative wasn't flourishing a decade prior with the refugee crisis. We had a country actually leaving the EU 8 years ago. That's just recency bias.
AndreiTatescu@reddit
It is just a matter of the EU ruining our countries and people getting upset over it.
RegionSignificant977@reddit
And did they solve the immigration problem? I don't think so.
imborahey@reddit
No, but they did get the AFD elected
RegionSignificant977@reddit
AFD has nothing to do with the one that left the EU.
imborahey@reddit
People spewing anti EU rhetoric don't have a goal of actually solving any problems, just setting the stage for a more radical and nationalist government to take over (UKIP, AFD, Le Pen) to make individual countries more isolated
RegionSignificant977@reddit
What makes that for people that believe in them and vote for them?
imborahey@reddit
Economic hardship breeds radicalism, and since leftism is a huge No no in the west they turn to nationalism
Archaeopteryx11@reddit (OP)
That’s what I thought too.
East_Veterinarian_36@reddit
its election season
ridesharegai@reddit
We should put all the communists on an island or somewhere and give them a state. Give them what they want and just let nature run its course.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
yes because communism is a monolitic idealogy. dont you people feel ignorant and borderline stupid/uneducated making such statements as yours ?
honest question
We have a communist goverment in Graz / Austria. Its working very fine and they solely focus on affordable housing. (They are even gaining voters)
Ghostofcoolidge@reddit
Most communist supporters are clueless people from capitalistic countries. When I first moved to Albania, I hardly ever thought about communism other than I don't like it in principle.
I started learning about the history of Hoxha's regime and just how awful it was. The people here lived in absolute hell. It was much worse than I could have ever realized.
And yet I constantly encounter tankies online who think that not only was Albania a communist paradise but that Hoxha was a great leader. Every single time they were from non-albanians who have never lived or spoken to an Albanian, especially the older ones who remember living through it.
They're ignorant fools captured either by some radical teacher or loser online. The good news is most people, at least for now, recognize these people are morons.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
imagine to frame communism as one clear monolithic ideology, ridicilious that any debate is a waste of time since you have no idea what ur talking about.
We have a communist goverment in Graz / Austria. Its working very fine and they solely focus on affordable housing.
geniuslogitech@reddit
ye only people who never lived under communism or even socialism thing it's any good, in Yugoslavia you couldn't have more than 2 employees in a private held company unless specifically allowed by the government like Karic family, by law your company was not allowed to be profitable, all the profits you got in a year you had to split to employees at the end which meant one bad year and your company is over so government could keep their monopoly on workforce
AlegusChopChop@reddit
I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were Greeks. Greeks are the only retards nowadays who vote for Communist parties (10%!!!) and twats like Tsipras...no wonder we are a garbage country
Stverghame@reddit
The posts/comments of people who share your narrative also sound like bot-product. You ain't much different than the other side, as much as you think you're superior to it.
markolosole@reddit
Well Guess what, we always existed. Recent events have brought up new discourses and you don't have to agree with everyone. The highest stage of capitalism is imperialism and liberals will have to decide whether they will turn into fascists or socialists.
LektikosTimoros@reddit
They are greeks especially. They are the laughing stock in greece. We call then unwashed. They appear to be many cause they are the loud minority.
In reality no one listens to them and everybody laughs at them.
imborahey@reddit
People seem to think that Russia and Russian bot are just around the corner and that anyone could be working for the Kremlin, but in reality, the Kremlin has limited resources and they most likely couldn't afford to have active bots on all subreddits, twitter, Facebook, Club Penguin...
I highly doubt they have actual bots anywhere beyond the top 10-25 biggest political subs, like r/Europe or r/politics. If you check the comments there it's obvious that there are multiple types of bots, like pro-Russian bots using left wing arguments and pro-Russian bots using right wing arguments. Even bleeding heart Israel supporters that think they can do no wrong, and to be honest Reddit seems to have more of these than any other type of bot combined.
But besides that, I think that most comments here are actual people who have differing opinions, you can see that everyone here is active in multiple subs that speak different languages and talk about a wide variety of topics
BlueShibe@reddit
It has always been at all times, pro-putin, pro-ukraine, etc.
Reddit as a whole has been pro commie for years, even before Trump
In real life I interacted with many who think trump is better and less for the opposite, so it can be also considered a genuine opinion I guess
StygianAnon@reddit
It always was, the messaging was just masked with humour.
Nobody runs internet spaces without some sort of “intelligence” or “special interests”, the whole point of editorial control on these platforms is to define normal for its users. And normal doesn’t mean truth, but what you perceive as true as you are raised within a subculture / community in a greater post truth world.
Fickle-Message-6143@reddit
And here it comes, this sub is place were everyone can state almost any opinion without being called bot or massively downvoted. Debates can be made and it is imo a lot better that other subs(r/europe, worldnews etc), where if you don't follow narative of their bubble you are well bot. Overall discussion are here lot better and even more in person.
And now you are introducing it here. Bots go on subs with lots of users and the one that appear on "popular" page. This sub is not that.
Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit
I don't like communists very much, but this is nonsense, people have different opinions, this isn't the cold war, calm down a little
I doubt there are bot farms, this subreddit is extremely low in numbers, it is a slow, quiet, unimportant corner of the internet, the only bots on reddit are probably US political ones as thats the only place where reddit actually has some minor impact on their digital landscape. Reddit is completely irrelevant to the Balkans, the people writing this are actual people who just believe differently than you.
Lazy-Mammoth-9470@reddit
Yeah not just this sub. I've also noticed this with zionists. It appears the propaganda machines are in full swing from both. Both are paying for bots and also actual humans to spread the propaganda and fasle evidence and narratives.
As if the world doesn't have the ability to open their eyes and ears to see what's going on.
If you know what occupation and oppression is, then the propaganda won't work on you regardless.
Allnamestakkennn@reddit
"If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" ass take. Just because they're saying that both the West and Russia suck doesn't mean that they support Russia. Btw anti-imperialists tend to hate on their country more, because pro-war folks are already doing a good job demonizing the other side, there's no need for that.
CypriotGreek@reddit
It’s delusional teenagers/young adult communists, we have a lot of these in Greece, especially r/Greece, where they proudly hail their “communist party of Greece (KKE)” flairs and constantly post from their communist websites.
But I’m sure they’re being way more propped up by the Russians
ivanp359@reddit
It’s not just this sub though
Puzzleheaded_Sir903@reddit
People have different opinions.
I am anti-EU, but I'm not pro-Putin.
I feel sorry for Ukranians.
31_hierophanto@reddit
Really? I haven't sensed them by now. They're probably getting downvoted to oblivion tbh.
a_bright_knight@reddit
He probably got triggered by someone on this thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskBalkans/comments/1gsim43/last_week_6_trucks_filled_with_ammunition_for/
Instead of moving on, he concocted a conspiracy theory of systematic tankie propaganda on this subreddit.
zarotabebcev@reddit
50-50
kodial79@reddit
Oh sure.... people can't have a different opinion, they are either wrong and stupid or freaking bots. Whatever you say, NPC.