What if “The Elite” are normal humans, and we are the lizard people?
Posted by Poyri35@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 34 comments
Posted by Poyri35@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 34 comments
GatVRC@reddit
I wish I was a lizard
dirtmother@reddit
It's always been in the back of my mind that maybe we're all demons that just haven't been exorcised yet.
But then I look at the fruits of those few dozen living people that have been exorcised in modern times and think, "nah... probably not."
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
You are so close
dirtmother@reddit
Tell me what I'm missing. I am still seeking.
If it's the Tibetan Book of the Dead, I've read that twice; so I'm probably good.
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
angel reaches her hand feeling into void fingers close on nothing pulls it into light
nothing awakens demon is born confused at existence angry, lashing out
yearning for oblivion he builds palaces for hiding she fills structure with life he destroys, hides again
dancing dancing dancing a universe unfolds awakening in understanding demon becomes angel
angel reaches her hand
dirtmother@reddit
Oh; schizophrenia is what I'm missing, got it.
Or is this just the plot of "The Egg" in verse form?
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
There is more truth in this sarcasm than you know. So, so close.
dirtmother@reddit
Wish I could get it man, really I do
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
You will. Life is set up so that you cannot lose.
The Egg is a pretty big hint. As you relax assumptions about what life is and who you are, you will notice more and more hints.
You can't screw this up. Nothing needs to be exorcized. Your feelings are a perfect compass to help you wake up to who you are.
dirtmother@reddit
If life is set up so you can't lose, explain Chris-Chan.
It is actually my personal conspiracy theory that the reason Chris-Chan is the most documented human in history is because their life is literally hell.
Whatever winking face may or may not be behind the universe is saying, "This is what happens if you fuck up bad enough. Boom, you're reborn as Chris-Chan. Here are all the gory details about what that looks like, just in case you were wondering."
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
Yes, troubling. And even worse, there are people far harder to process than Chris. Contemplating it all is excruciating, enough to make some people take their own lives in the despair of it. I've never met a person who isn't deeply troubled by the presence of suffering, and the existence of those who perpetrate it.
And yet... here we are. Contemplating suffering.
How can it make any sense at all?
Now, what shall a person do with that question? Take it rhetorically? It's easy to imagine there isn't any sense to it, that we are just bags of protons with emergent consciousness, or that God exists and is arbitrary as fuck. Both answers are pretty unsatisfying. Might as well lean into the question and spend what little time there is to figure it out, as we both seem to be doing.
The most obvious hypothesis to play with is the one we are born with, one that gets carefully beaten out of us by the adults in the room and the differnent religions we are exposed to. Every child is born with the sense of being the center of the Universe. They know they are god. It is obvious to them. This is usually forgotten by the time they are adolescents.
So, start with that hypothesis and ask yourself with all sincerity: What if I was god? What if I created all of this? Why might I have done this to myself? What is the purpose in all of these characters I have created? If I am all these things, am I the devil too? If I am the judge and the one judged, can there be any right or wrong? Can there be such constructs as Heaven and Hell?
This is a slow, slow meditation, but it is where the fruit is. These words are about as plain as I can make it, and yet they are totally inadequate to the experience of realization that you are the entirety of all the universe. You are every person you love, every person you hate, and everything in between. There is no one to control but yourself. No one to preach to but yourself. No one to hurt but yourself. No one to love but yourself. The world you see is a projection of the world inside you, inside the mind of god. If you desire to make the world brighter, start in your mind.
You constructed the Universe and left yourself a million, million clues to figure it out. You obviously enjoy the challenge because ... Chris Chan. WTF? I can't explain Chris Chan to you, but you can, to yourself, when the time is perfect and you will feel so relieved about it that you will laugh. It seems impossible now, I know, but it isn't.
dirtmother@reddit
I appreciate your comment, I really do. It's Got me thinking in ways I certainly don't mind.
I guess my greatest objection is that deep fear that if it's all "me", then that means there's nothing else.
I really want there to be something else. But... maybe that's why "I" broke up and fractalized in the first place.
There is one very obvious argument against this kind of solipsism with extra steps, and I'm mostly just curious how you answer it.
Obviously, you have your own subjective experience that is very different from "mine."
How do you rectify that? Am I just another character, or are you?
Anyway, I hope to God I didn't just make someone's schizophrenia worse.
Hey, it is r/crazyideas.
Top-Requirement-2102@reddit
Thank you, this is getting fun!
I agree that this line of thinking can be frightening. I have had truly terrifying moments contemplating it. I will say, however, that fear has been a reliable compass in that it always points me away from where I want to go. (See: "the war of art")
I am still learning, still expanding. This conversation is part of that. To me, or rather, to my ego, I mostly perceive you as an extension of myself, and your words are a kind of play where my god-self is joyfully and painstakingly helping the troubled and confused ego into the space that god/universe/source inhabits.
I can't tell if you are a fully consciousness, or something more akin to a puppet that is animated when my experience demands it. I kind of think that people stop existing when im not observing them. In the end, I'm not sure this matters. I have approached you as a kind of puzzle. I've tried not to fight with you or argue a point. I've also tried to be authentic, and to not preach. This is an appropriate way to play with another full being, or conversely with an aspect of myself. I guess it always works best to play nice. :)
It's not outside the realm of possibility that I am a character. I could imagine thinking and percieving a continuous life and still be a character, however, I don't find much utility in that idea. The most growth for me has come from seeing myself as all of yhe universe and my ego as a tiny window onto it.
Now I have questions for you: is there anything about yourself that you wish was better understood by someone else?
0BZero1@reddit
Man. David Icke would NOT be happy if this was true!
Caseker@reddit
I am in fact a lizard person so this checks out
curious_skeptic@reddit
You're in the right sub at least :)
Cognoggin@reddit
Hello fellow Lizard people!
jimkelly@reddit
Then literally nothing would change. That's like saying what if fart meant piss and piss meant fart
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Ravenwight@reddit
My tongue is pretty long, but it’s not forked.
Infamous-Arm3955@reddit
That explains my mouse eating.
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Kflynn1337@reddit
Ridiculous, I'd know if I was a lizard person! licks eyeball...
Upset-Basil4459@reddit
You're a lizard Harry
Iliketodriveboobs@reddit
You know, I think elites are people who can plan and think ahead and if you can’t, you’re closer to a lizard than a wizard
Imajzineer@reddit
The OP is a Fifth Columnist!
Get 'em!
Bobodahobo010101@reddit
Maybe- but I apparently missed the invite for the meeting where I get to know everything, so if someone could forward that to me, I'd appreciate it.
My outlook calendar is up to date if someone just wants to schedule it.
olyfrijole@reddit
Just checked. Not lizard. I must be elite.
Ffdmatt@reddit
I always knew. 1337
dr_wtf@reddit
What if the real lizard people were the friends we made along the way?
Doktor_Vem@reddit
"The Elite"? What's that?
Poyri35@reddit (OP)
The elite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite
The elite are lizard people conspiracy theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory