Convair NC-131H Samaritan at the National Museum of the United States Air Force
Posted by shadrackandthemandem@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 31 comments
The Convair NC-131H Samaritan, also known as the Total In-Flight Simulator (TIFS), is a modified Convair C-131 Samaritan that was used to study aircraft handling characteristics. Built as a C-131B, the aircraft underwent extensive conversion and modification by the United States Air Force, NASA, Calspan and others from the late 1960s until the 2000s. TIFS' maiden flight was in 1970.
user_uno@reddit
I've been there and seen that! Well worth the walk to the number of planes sitting outside. And the rail car waaaay out there. They don't get much attention.
But this one is definitely interesting. Going over to the port side, you can see inside a little bit. Apparently there is some passageway between the sections.
Emach00@reddit
Tell me about the rail car.
Vertexzr132@reddit
Will have to double check myself but I believe the rail car referenced could be to do with the cold war ICBM trains the USA ran. From the UK so not able to visit it myself but they're cool bits of kit to read up on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison?wprov=sfla1
Emach00@reddit
Nukes on rails? Groovy.
Vertexzr132@reddit
Cold war had both sides acting up. The USSR had its own system as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-23_Molodets?wprov=sfla1
Emach00@reddit
I knew the Russians were obsessed with armored trains but wasn't aware they put launchers on them. That's cool thanks for sharing.
user_uno@reddit
Emach covered everything. I just feel bad for the railcar. The planes themselves don't get much love from visitors. The few people that do go out there seem to even more rarely go out to what just seem like a rail car with a placard in front of it.
But I'm nosy. So made the walk. It is as described. And it's not going anywhere. The tracks other than underneath it have all been removed.
Just an interesting bit of history. And some obvious unique engineering to launch a rocket. Well, obvious when you get up close.
TheLandOfConfusion@reddit
The shitter’s in the rear
ctr72ms@reddit
Dang I was just there and didn't notice this outside. I saw the ones on the line and figured I knew all of them already. Guess I gotta go back.
fatherdale@reddit
I would be terrified to fly from the front cockpit. Looks like it'll fall off.
m00ph@reddit
They don't usually do that.
bilgetea@reddit
It’s not typical, I’d like to point that out.
atomicsnarl@reddit
They didn't use cell-o-tape, so it should be just fine.
drillbit7@reddit
Or rubber, or cardboard, or even cardboard derivatives.
atomicsnarl@reddit
Well, maybe a little rubber for the vibration mounts.
diogenesNY@reddit
Were Jerry and Sylvia Anderson hired as design consultants?
MonkeyPawWishes@reddit
It looks like a Star Trek transporter accident.
ludicrouspeedgo@reddit
Geezbeasties! What's happened to his head?
g3nerallycurious@reddit
Per Wiki:
HOW does a plane like that have any meaningful data for creating a plane so vastly different?
Old_Wallaby_7461@reddit
Because the control systems could be configured to approximate a B-1's. It's not perfect, but for that you'd have to build an actual B-1!
SpaceInMyBrain@reddit
I thought I was familiar with some weird planes but this is weird.
Confusion777@reddit
Sadam hussein hiding spot
JWatkins_82@reddit
There are showers, and there are growers. His guy is obviously in the latter. 🤣🤣🤣
torklugnutz@reddit
Needs more cockpits.
Paul_The_Builder@reddit
If Homer Simpson designed an airplane.
BloodAndSand44@reddit
If Elon Musk designed an airplane.
RaptorGanoe@reddit
Sadly when I went in 2021 it wasn’t outside 😭. Need to make a trip back up there from Virginia
ArtemisOSX@reddit
That museum is magnificent.
RandomQrimQuestnoob1@reddit
Is that part of the bottom plane or are there two separate planes?
Rezolution134@reddit
Why would you do that?!
Newbosterone@reddit
It was used to simulate/ test flight control models in flight. TIFS test pilot flew in the forward cockpit, whose controls were fed through a computer that modified them so the aircraft responded according to the model.