With Republicans now controlling all branches there is no excuse not push through the hearing protection act

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LynchMob_Lerry@reddit

THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN THE LAST TIME AND THE TIME BEFORE IT

The sooner you realize they don't give a fuck about you, the happier your life will be.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

https://x.com/nra/status/1940133378063499403?s=46

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Its not worth it. The bill strips too much money from important spendings and opens upwards of 250 million acres of public land to be sold to energy companies for drilling. A broken clock thats right twice a day is not a clock worth keeping. Also the way the wording is that there will still be a NFA, there just wont be a $200 stamp connected to it, which I guess is better then nothing, but in the end, its not worth it.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

The land sale provision is gone and your goal post are shifting. You said nothing would be done, they did something. Take the L

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LynchMob_Lerry@reddit

Only them the orange fart is no longer in power. The sooner hes gone the sooner we can start recovering.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Progress is slow. Republican justices gave us NYSRPA v. Bruen and Heller. We’ve also gotten big wins in universal carry on the state level. Legislative efforts have also blocked most gun control legislation on the federal level. Keep pushing and fuck off with this demoralization bullshit. If you want to not help please go away and cry in the corner

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LynchMob_Lerry@reddit

One day you will come to the realization that Trump and company are con men looking out for their own interests. I hope that day comes sooner then later, but were in for a wild ride the next 4 years, and Trump pretending he cares about you got him to a position he can pardon himself and put people like Musk in power

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

I really don’t give a shit. I just don’t want people taking my guns.

You’re basically admitting with your comment you don’t care at all about 2A advocacy just fighting Trump.

Fun fact by the way, I’m from California. Do you know who was AG of California until 2017? Do you know who decided that all pistols created after 2013 were “unsafe for sale”? I’ll let you think on that.

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LynchMob_Lerry@reddit

I know you don't care, which is why its clear your a one issue voter blinded by that single issue. Firearms are extremely important to me, but removing a fascist from office is more important.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Go away then. If you’re ok sacrificing gun rights then this is the wrong subreddit for you

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EchoZulu42@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/1kgaaxx/breaking_pro_suppressor_bills_blocked_by/

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BerniceFighter@reddit

But just wait, nothing will actually get done. No pro2a movements, no wall, no debt action. If they actually do their jobs, how can the rely on the same trigger phrases to get re-elected?

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CoolaidMike84@reddit

Correct. Trump is not pro 2A. Expect even less after two attempts on his life. Hell, if the first one would have been a better shot, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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mcswiss@reddit

lol what? After the PA assassination attempt he was directly asked if he would ban AR-15s and Trump said no.

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pepolepop@reddit

He also said "take the guns first, due process second."

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mcswiss@reddit

1) was that before or after the first assassination attempt?

2) do you think Kamala is better for 2aA?

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pepolepop@reddit

1) Literally doesn't matter. He has said all sorts of shit and there's no reason to trust what he says.

2) Trump banned bump stocks and signed anti 2A legislation the first time he was in office. Biden/Harris haven't done anything for or against 2A in the last 4 years.

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mcswiss@reddit

Cite the Biden/Harris track record.

Her own campaign website said she:

She would "ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, require universal background checks, and support red flag laws that keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people."

Obvious troll is obvious.

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pepolepop@reddit

Biden said the same thing and he never did. Get bent, dork.

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mcswiss@reddit

Wait wait wait, you would rather someone follow their platform than lie to you?

Didn’t Kamala also repeatedly say that Trump would rather “run on an issue than solve an issue”? Except, as you just so clearly pointed out “ t like republicans did with abortion.”

Major White Dudes for Harris vibes

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pepolepop@reddit

Critical thinking isn't your strong suit, is it son?

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mcswiss@reddit

You’re upset the Republicans did what they said they would do, and the Dems didn’t.

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pepolepop@reddit

You're saying I wanted the dems to ban all the shit they say they will, but never do? Lmao dumbass

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Additional-Eye-2447@reddit

Please enumerate the anti 2A Trump signed, thanks.

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pepolepop@reddit

Enumerate deez nuts

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mikeycp253@reddit

I remember when I trusted the word of elected officials.

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

So Kamala would've been pro-gun is what you're saying?

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alexmg2420@reddit

Just because one is bad doesn't mean the other is good. Both are bad for guns.

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

Holy strawman, you went straight for it.

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Didn't mean to cultivate so much butthurt, I was just wondering if it held across parties or if it was unique to Republicans. I've seen this sentiment about a hundred times in this thread, and well the Kamala bots still have a few days left until the subscription wears out...

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

Do you know what a strawman argument is? I'll give you a hint. It's what you just did.

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Yes, we're all aware you graduated from the Reddit School of Internet Argument. Do you want a sticker or something?

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

I mean, if you're offering...

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mikeycp253@reddit

I voted for Trump. I still don’t trust or like him very much.

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MoneyElk@reddit

I can tell you’re saying that as someone who lives in a free state. There are millions of us behind enemy lines that would be happy even if we just had our right to own an “assault weapon” restored.

Trumps judicial appointments will be worth his tenure in this regard alone.

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

You think the silver spoon ivy leaguers and the crazy lady with nine kids give two shits about your right?

I doubt we'll ever even find out.

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FlashCrashBash@reddit

Bruen is the literal reason why my LTC no longer has restrictions on it, so yeah.

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PaperbackWriter66@reddit

Read the Bruen concurrence by Kavanaugh, joined by Roberts. Look at how Rahimi was an 8-1 decision.

8 out of 9 justices on SCOTUS think some infringements are fine, with 3 of the 9 thinking nothing is an infringement. It only takes two other justices to join them to have an anti-2A ruling.

Similarly, of the 6 "conservative" justices now sitting, maybe as many as 5 of them would vote to uphold some infringements as long as they are "tradition"---that means upholding AWBs, the ban on MGs, training requirements for CCW permits, and probably a lot of the restrictions on "sensitive places" imposed by blue states post-Bruen.

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FlashCrashBash@reddit

Dude go back like not even 10 years and you'll find voices in this community that think some infringements are fine. Go back another 10 and you'll find voices that are vehement defenders of the NFA and MG ban.

Like this is progress, this is literally the best political/judicial landscape for gun rights we've had in American history. For the entire 20 century we had a landscape that was passively anti-gun, to just be passively-pro gun is a massive improvement.

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PaperbackWriter66@reddit

We're in agreement, but I'm merely trying to point out how we represent the tip of the spear of gun culture---we're ahead of everyone else, and the Courts will be the absolute last hold-outs for classic 20th Century Fudd-ism. I still think it will be another 20 years before any judge appointed to SCOTUS is a Brandon Herrera subscriber.

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2017hayden@reddit

They’ve already done far more for 2A rights than any Supreme Court appointees in decades…….

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MoneyElk@reddit

You say that as if there haven't been landmark rulings in the recent years.

That being said, yes, I have a lot more faith in them caring about my right to bear arms than my Democrat representatives here in Washington that I called and emailed countless times to never even be responded to and to then have them vote yes on both the "assault weapon" ban and magazine capacity ban.

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skylinesora@reddit

“Attempts” lmao, there were no threats to his life

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Clyde-MacTavish@reddit

bro was an inch away from painting the crowd redder than they already are

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skylinesora@reddit

That’s if you believe he was even being targeted. This could’ve just have been a ploy to gain public support due to the shit storm he was in if he lost the presidency race.

His ear was “glazed” by a ar15, so a .223/5.56 but somehow recovered back to 100% 2 weeks later. That’s not really possibly. I’d assume it was more self inflicted while the shooter was to aim far off from trump. How do you think the shooter made it as far as his did? Inside job.

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Ottomatik80@reddit

You can’t be serious. Being shot at is most certainly a serious threat. The clown with the duct taped scope was also a threat, even if his attempt was unlikely to be successful.

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skylinesora@reddit

That’s if you believe he was even being targeted. This could’ve just have been a ploy to gain public support due to the shit storm he was in if he lost the presidency race.

His ear was “glazed” by a ar15, so a .223/5.56 but somehow recovered back to 100% 2 weeks later. That’s not really possibly. I’d assume it was more self inflicted while the shooter was to aim far off from trump. How do you think the shooter made it as far as his did? Inside job.

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McMacHack@reddit

Those are Russia Propaganda Workers, pay them no mind they are just happy to be working at a troll farm instead of getting blown up by Ukrainians

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ChrisWhiteWolf@reddit

If getting literally shot at doesn't count as an attempt on one's life in your book, I don't know what the fuck does.

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skylinesora@reddit

That’s if you believe he was even being targeted. This could’ve just have been a ploy to gain public support due to the shit storm he was in if he lost the presidency race.

His ear was “glazed” by a ar15, so a .223/5.56 but somehow recovered back to 100% 2 weeks later. That’s not really possibly. I’d assume it was more self inflicted while the shooter was to aim far off from trump. How do you think the shooter made it as far as his did? Inside job.

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Due-Net4616@reddit

This comment is stupid asf. Guns do not shoot perfectly straight laser beams, they have MOA which means bullets land within a circular tolerance based on the ammo, the guns precision, and the shooters ability. It is physically impossible to plan a perfectly placed shot even if the rifle was placed in a vice. Any conspiracy theories about trumps shot to the ear being planned is fucking stupid.

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skylinesora@reddit

That’s if you believe his ear was shot. The same ear that miraculously recovered to 100% 2 weeks later.

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JBCTech7@reddit

what about the iranian plot that was just uncovered by the secret service? Was that not a threat either?

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mkosmo@reddit

I imagine you'd be telling a different story if you were the one being shot at.

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Rashere@reddit

Felons can’t own firearms. He’s anti-2a now since he can’t stand others having what he can’t. ;)

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Stein1071@reddit

If the first one would have used his grand daddies Remington bolt action 30-06 deer rifle instead of a clapped scary black rifle we wouldn't be here either. Have to wonder if he chose an AR on purpose?

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mcswiss@reddit

Trump is literally responsible for overturning Roe v Wade, something the Right has campaigned on since 1973.

I agree that the HPA should happen, but to say nothing will actually get done doesn’t bare credence.

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

Oh please. He didn't actually do anything useful.

Mitch McConnell delayed a Supreme Court nomination and the Heritage Foundation gave him a list to choose from. He played the role of Homer a Simpson in the control room.

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mcswiss@reddit

And what’s your point, Mr “I thought breaking bad was really cool”?

He picked the judges that overturned one of the biggest GOP issues.

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

He wasn't responsible for the vacancies and he didn't pick the judges.

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mcswiss@reddit

Is anyone responsible for the SC vacancies?

and he didn't pick the judges

He literally picked Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett that were the three votes that overturned Row V Wade.

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

Yes. Mitch McConnel is solely responsible for one of the vacancies.

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ifunnywasaninsidejob@reddit

And he could certainly do the same thing for suppressors. Lots of companies would make a lot of money selling suppressors.

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Otakeb@reddit

I actually think it's in the companies best interest to keep suppressors in this limited supply, high margin item. Think about it; if you are already paying a $200 tax stamp, and that stamp is not transferrable if your suppressor breaks, then you are gonna want to buy the best and most durable badass suppressor you can and paying for a $900 suppressor when you are already paying $200 for the tax stamp isn't much of a stretch and attracts an affluent and dedicated/informed customer.

You open the floodgates and you can just buy 6 of them at once at the local gun store, these companies will have to hope the sheer volume will make up for the reduced prices as competition mounts and demand for $1000, advanced, ultralight titanium super suppressors falls in favor of cheaper and more replaceable suppressors or rebuildable ones with replaceable baffles. Suppressors become commoditized. Even with the extra volume, the reduced prices plus cost of more mass manufacturing may not be what a lot of these suppressor companies secretly want.

I hope I'm wrong, but looking at suppressor prices in England where access to and interest in guns is much lower so I would wager full commodification cannot take place at large scales and low costs the suppressors are STILL half the cost or less of what they are in America and their prices are probably slightly influenced by our market. It would not surprise me if suppressor manufacturers are lobbying for suppressors to stay restricted behind closed doors.

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TiberiusDrexelus@reddit

all major law changes in this country for the past few decades have come from SCOTUS, through either judicial activism or overturning unconstitutional acts of congress

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mcswiss@reddit

through either judicial activism

I don’t like this

or overturning unconstitutional acts of congress

I really like this.

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PaperbackWriter66@reddit

Patriot Act and Obamacare, two big exceptions.

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unclefisty@reddit

Trump is literally responsible for overturning Roe v Wade,

Which has zero to do with gun rights. Sure made the anti woman christian conservative base REALLY HAPPY though.

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ifunnywasaninsidejob@reddit

Their point was a counter against the argument “republicans won’t change things/fix problems because then they won’t be able to campaign on that issue” being anti-abortion was a signature campaign platform for republicans for decades.

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uponone@reddit

If they actually clean the basics up: economy, border and foreign policy, the country should be pretty happy and reelection shouldn’t be an uphill climb like it has been.

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SycoJack@reddit

That's the rub, they're not going to do that. They're going to make the economy worse.

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uponone@reddit

Okay. Keep telling yourself that.

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unclefisty@reddit

If you don't think Trump and his cronies aren't going to do everything they can to funnel as much money as possible into the wealthy I don't know what to tell you.

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uponone@reddit

So what has happened the last four years? You think the same economic policies are going to somehow pull the whole country out of this? She said she wouldn’t change a thing Biden has done and she was involved in every decision.

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pepolepop@reddit

There was record world wide inflation, and the dems kept our inflation lower than just about any other country in the world. They did a great job at controlling it in comparison to other countries, just look around.

There's already reports of companies looking to increase prices in preparation for the Trump tariffs. When "inflation" starts spiking again, don't blame it on Biden because none of you realized how tariffs work.

Last time Trump was in office, he cut taxes for corporations and individuals making more than $400K/year, while raising taxes everyone who makes less than $400K/year. Biden definitely should have done something about this and he didn't. When Trump said he is gonna continue to cut taxes, do you seriously think he's talking about cutting them for me and you?

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uponone@reddit

Good goad you are a mindless drone.

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pepolepop@reddit

Nice job avoiding the topic again, you seem to have a lot of practice.

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uponone@reddit

Good god you have no ability to critically think. Biden kept every Trump tariff and added another 18B onto it. He increased taxes across the board. Mine went up 8K because I worked 30% more hours than the average American while again ~65% of this nation’s wealth is Democrat or leans left. Don’t give me avoiding the topic.

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pepolepop@reddit

You're avoiding it again with more whatabout-isms lol

Dork

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uponone@reddit

I have given you facts you cannot accept.

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pepolepop@reddit

🤡🤡🤡

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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BerniceFighter@reddit

Of course

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PNutTheSquirrel@reddit

I would think they would want to run on the fact that they had success, but that's asking a politician to actually do something worth boasting about.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Oh you sweet summer child.

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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Edwardteech@reddit

Corse i did. Not for trump.

He didn't do shit last time when he had the house and senet. He wont know.

Republicans don't want gun control to go away they wouldn't have a boogyman to use to leverage control.

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JBCTech7@reddit

So you voted for the libertarian candidate?

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Edwardteech@reddit

Oh budy stop tryna start an argument you won't win.

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JBCTech7@reddit

lol try me.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Yes me stating facts and you ignoring them and talking about your fefes is gonna be a riveting interaction.

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-Samg381-@reddit

You seem kinda desperate to stir the pot :/

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

They're not paid to go with the flow.

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JBCTech7@reddit

ahh...so clearly a harris voter.

Why now are you in the firearms subreddit? I should warn you, its not an echo chamber.

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Ahshitbackagain@reddit

Dude....... His avatar is wearing a fucking mask. Who do you think he voted for?

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ningenito78@reddit

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Edwardteech@reddit

Psst he knows he just wants to make an argument out of it.

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JBCTech7@reddit

psst he does not know, otherwise he wouldn't have asked. You're in this sub, so I assume you would not vote for the anti-2a party - but here we are.

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JBCTech7@reddit

i use old reddit. I don't see pfp.

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unclefisty@reddit

His avatar is wearing a fucking mask.

There are people who still don't use the newreddit cancer and therefore don't see any stupid ass profile pictures.

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-Samg381-@reddit

No guns.

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

Fuck, stay in school. Learn to spell.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Does it make you feel better to point out you have better memorization abilities than other people?

You can't find anything wrong with what i say so you have to come after me for a disability? Good on you.

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

There's a spellchecker built into every editor. You're claiming a disability. You're lazy. Use the tools.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Haha. Go fuck yourself. Voting to take away our rights.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Thats sure to bring people to your way of thinking. /s (incase you didn't pick up on the sarcasm)

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Sorry that was out of pocket, but just sick of people pretending like Republicans and Democrats are equal for 2A. Republicans are not great, but most democrat politicians would gladly institute mandatory buybacks. Coming from California I have seen it all.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Im not a Democrat. Im also not a republican. I just want to be left alone and have leadership that is at least halfway responsible. If i must have leadership at all.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Ok then go away and let the people who care call their representatives. If you don’t want to help don’t sit around and complain and try demoralizing the rest of us. You’d do a lot more 2A that way than crying about the rest of us actually trying to defend our gun rights.

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Edwardteech@reddit

But they wont leave me alone. So i can't leave them alone.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

If you have issues with Republicans on issues outside of gun control I suggest two choices.

Go elsewhere, this subreddit is a gun advocacy forum.
Fix the democrats and advocate to make them pro 2A.

Either would be more productive than crying about me trying to get Republican congressman and senators to support a popular part of their platform and base.

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That_Is_My_Band_Name@reddit

the hearing protection act was going to be voted on the day of targeted shooting of republicans at their congressional baseball practice.

It was then later postponed due to the Vegas shooting.

So, there were other factors that played a part of it not going through at the time.

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Edwardteech@reddit

What a quinkydink

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Shit mentality. I’m not new too this. Only way we can stuff done is acting decisively and with lots of pressure. Also be ready to encounter failure. There is little to lose but so much to gain. Nothing comes easy

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Frank_Azar_69420@reddit

so many doomer losers. you're 100% correct.

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SirBiggusDikkus@reddit

Senate is still gonna have the filibuster, already stated they aren’t gonna eliminate it. How do you expect them to get around that?

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Edwardteech@reddit

Oh there's lots to lose. Trump tried to ban bump stocks of all things. He can do plenty of other stupid shit.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

And advocating for your Congress person to pass the hearing protection act will impact bump stocks how exactly? What is this demoralization shit? What is your alternative? Sit around and yell at the sky?

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Edwardteech@reddit

Your doing enough sky yelling for the both of us.

I don't mind calling and talking to my rep about the hpa. Wouldn't be the first time i bitched at a rep about some gun shit.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Then show up or fuck off. There is 0 harm in advocating our rights to our representatives. The only reason not to is either because your lazy or you secretly hate 2A

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Hector_Salamander@reddit

I’m not new to this.

Curious how old you are and how long you've been following politics closely?

The guy who claims to be good at making deals had a perfect chance to trade bumpstocks for suppressors on the NFA. You know what he did instead?

Art of the deal my ass.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

You understand bills are introduced by the house right? The hearing protection act got bogged down in the house. Trump would sign it. This is not about Trump

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Hoodfu@reddit

It'll never happen because of the filibuster, literally like last time. Schumer made sure of it and he'll do the same thing this time.

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UmbralFerin@reddit

You can immediately dismiss anyone who uses any variation of "sweet summer child" or anything like that, because they're legitimately retarded. You'd have more to gain explaining your position to a fence post.

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bl0odredsandman@reddit

Trump already said he would seriously look at banning suppressors because he doesn't like them. He'd probably veto it if it landed on his desk.

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HSR47@reddit

Citation needed.

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bl0odredsandman@reddit

You can literally just Google it and all the news orgs were talking about it. He said it after a shooting where the gunman used a suppressor.

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HSR47@reddit

And yet he didn’t actually do anything to inhibit the sale, possession, or use of firearm mufflers.

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khannivig@reddit

Yea don’t see it happening. Republicans talk a good game but when’s the last time ANYTHING positive happened on firearms federally?

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Snub-Nose-Sasquatch@reddit

It is time for suppressors to no longer be considered NFA items. Time for suppressors to be treated like any other firearm: Pass a background check and walk out the door.

Please call your representatives. Please donate what you can to the Second Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America.

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IamNulliSecundus@reddit

I’d like to see constitutional carry and quit screwing around. I’m in DE and it’s a shit show trying to purchase weaponry!

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IamNulliSecundus@reddit

What? I’m going deaf!

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Diddy-Oil-Party@reddit

Seems some folks like Dave Smith mention not having Nikki Haley in the admin and the very next day Trump announces she won't be involved in the admin.

Could be another avenue to influence, swamp Trumps feed with 2a requests.

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Spiritual_Ship3116@reddit

What is the hearing protection act? I’ve never heard of it

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NoEsophagus96@reddit

To be honest I haven't heard much since I was about 12 and started shooting... coincidence I'm sure.

If you're serious it's basically to get suppressors removed from the NFA

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Spiritual_Ship3116@reddit

Yeah I was💀 thank you!

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Awwwwolf@reddit

Hearing Protection Act is about having suppressor for guns including those with barrel shorter than 16", no need to differentiate those.

This is the way. Takes care of both NFA issues in one go. And gets rid of the stupid talks about legaity of pistol brace.

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

I haven't seen the House called yet. They need 218 votes and are at 212.

They would need at least 60 seats in the Senate to override the filibuster.

Basic Civics 101.

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SaltyDog556@reddit

They don't need to overcome a filibuster. The NFA is a tax law. It could be included in a reconciliation act that only requires a simple majority. They could neuter the NFA altogether this way.

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MoneyElk@reddit

Another avenue would be a court case regarding the NFA making it’s way to the Supreme Court, hopefully Thomas and Alito retire allowing Trump to appoint two younger Constitutionalist justices. Perhaps Sotomayor retires or steps down and he can replace a liberal Justice with a conservative one.

Of course this is even assuming they would here a case challenging the NFA to begin with. As of late their stance has been to send 2A cases back to lower courts citing Bruen.

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PaperbackWriter66@reddit

Not gonna happen as long as pussyfoot Roberts is the Chief Justice.

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SaltyDog556@reddit

That's a much longer route that I'm not convinced would change anything unless they find some justices that are equally or greater pro-2A, can look at "dangerous and unusual" in the limited sense, can get the other conservative justices to see that way as well and just issue a broad opinion on a case where scotus can vacate future decisions and make it crystal clear the previous decision was wrong. Mainly by issuing injunctions. This whole remand to rule in accordance with Bruen just needs to stop. It's like sending your new staff back to redo a project 12 times after they've told the person multiple times how to do it. Just do it themselves and "fire" the staff by issuing injunctions since they can't actually fire them.

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TiberiusDrexelus@reddit

they've called 216, and we're way ahead in 4 remaining

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Netan_MalDoran@reddit

Do you have a better map? AP is showing less.

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TiberiusDrexelus@reddit

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/2024/General/US-House/

MSNBC so you know they're hesitant to call the r's

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

Fox shows 213. If anyone was going to call for the R's it would be them.

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Netan_MalDoran@reddit

Thanks!

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The_OG_TrashPanda@reddit

I am convinced there was a reason why they stopped making this mandatory in the United States

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

As am I friend.

I also believe that NOT educating children in .gov run schools is deliberate.

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Happily_Frustrated@reddit

One side wants to reduce public education funding.

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Loves_tacos@reddit

Is that the same side or the other side who is planning on abolishing it?

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mkosmo@reddit

You assume 7 votes can't be found from the left.

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Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit

Yeah I do.

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VHDamien@reddit

This.

It's incredibly difficult to pass anything without the ability to override the filibuster with 60 votes. Good luck finding 6 Democratic party politicians to support any pro 2a legislation.

At best a member of the GOP tries to sneak in an amendment to a must pass piece of legislation that is pro 2a.

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Gun_Monger@reddit

And watch it still not get done. I think some of the pro 2A crowd may be a bit naive in their expectations. I think the only thing that will come from Trump related to 2A is that there will be no major bans (ex. AR ban, etc. ). Everything else will be the same. I actually think the gun industry will take a hit due to a drop in demand because people will be less concerned about bans. Heck, I had plans to buy an AR upper if Kamala won, and now im in no rush to do it.

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AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit

They'll blame the filibuster and not even give it a vote, like last time. While sneaking the "compromise" gun control bill quietly into a must pass omnibus.

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HSR47@reddit

"They'll blame the filibuster and not even give it a vote..."

Yes, that's how the filibuster works.

The Senate doesn't vote until debate closes. A filibuster keeps debate open.

The only way to force an end to debate (so that a vote can occur) is to invoke cloture, which requires 60 Senators to agree.

In effect, this means that bills on many issues tend to need 60 votes in order to pass, instead of only 50.

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AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit

Read the rest of the comment, assuming you are able to read.

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sailor-jackn@reddit

Did republicans get 60% of the seats in the senate?

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MunitionGuyMike@reddit

The only excuse is by us not contacting our new pro-gun government officials constantly asking for it.

Election is only half the victory. The other half is continued pressure and lobbying

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SycoJack@reddit

If they were truly pro gun, you wouldn't need to harass them for it. They'd do it on their own.

But I do hope we can get this passed, it is long overdue. Maybe we can get national reciprocity as well. But I won't hold my breath.

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HuskyPurpleDinosaur@reddit

Our waterbill was super confusing to understand. Got some signatures from my community, opened complaint through official channels, then the mayor actually asked to have a meeting with me.

I figured he meant the mayors office, and I would sit somewhere for an hour and then some aide would take my info and blow me off, but what the heck I went anyway.

Long story short, met the mayor personally and he had a good amount of his staff there. The mayor agreed it was subpar, showed changes they had planned, and what my thoughts were on it with a slideshow, and asked if I could think of any other questions or suggestions or if there was any more confusion. There wasn't, and the bill was changed along with website to explain everything far more intuitively.

None of that would have happened if there wasn't some kind of action to initiate it.

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glockster19m@reddit

But it seems like it would have actually happened since the mayor already had a plan

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HuskyPurpleDinosaur@reddit

It was drafted based on the community complaint, wasn't a one day to the next thing.

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Chilipatily@reddit

Can’t get rid of that platform to run on during campaign season. Politicians don’t want people’s problems to go away, then they’d have to actually figure out something else to drum up votes.

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MunitionGuyMike@reddit

Guns aren’t everything. They’ll be forgotten. It’s up to the people to make sure they aren’t

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Due-Net4616@reddit

The anti-gunners understand politics and are not afraid of harassing their politicians because they have a “by any means necessary” mindset, something we need to take up and stop caring about politicians feelings. Is your rep busy? Not your problem. Email them.

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SycoJack@reddit

I never said to not contact your representatives. I only said that if they were really pro 2A, you wouldn't have to.

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Due-Net4616@reddit

The second amendment isn’t the only political issue and therefore isn’t the only thing they concern themselves with. If you want them to take it up as a primary issue, the only way to do so is to make your voice heard. My comment was because you seem to think they should do so as a default when the primary political concerns right now are affordability of everyday goods and preventing WW3.

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Chilipatily@reddit

Their secret excuse is that they don’t want to eliminate great platforms to run on and scare 2nd amendment advocates (like myself) into voting for them. I have ZERO faith in our politicians, regardless of what side of the aisle they’re on.

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Devils_Advocate-69@reddit

They’ll give you crumbs. They’ll need something to dangle over you for the next election.

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Darksept@reddit

Email your reps. Let's get this on a bill.

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DickMonkeys@reddit

You're vastly overestimating the pro-gun motivation of the Republican party overall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster

Be smarter.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

What is your solution /u/dickmonkeys as a high iq individual? Should we just give up and hand in our guns?

This mentality is toxic. Yes we may fail, but there is 0 risk and lots of upside. So if you want to sit on the sideline and cry go ahead. I live in a state where I couldn’t even get silencers even if this passed, but unlike you I’m ready to do basic civic duties to promote my rights.

Have you ever written a letter to your rep? Called your assembly person? Called your state rep?

Show up or fuck off

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HSR47@reddit

"[If you're so smart, what do you propose we do instead?]"

Short answer: National Reciprocity.

The record is clear: Once states start respecting the carry rights of their citizens, the gun ownership rate starts going up, and gun laws start getting better. It's a long process that takes time, but it paints a very clear picture..

If the federal legislature is able to force the remaining "bad" states to finally resume recognizing the right to bear arms, it'll set us on the path toward passing pretty much all of the pro-2A bills currently on our radar (e.g. the "Sportsmen’s Heritage And Recreational Enhancement Act" which the HPA got folded into) over the next 10-30 years.

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smokeyser@reddit

To be fair, the filibuster is just a consequence of a senate rule that can be changed if they choose to do so. I doubt they will, as it would create a huge political mess, but they could.

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unclefisty@reddit

that can be changed if they choose to do so. I doubt they will, as it would create a huge political mess, but they could.

Neither party really wants to because they know the Other Guy will ass fuck them as soon as the pendulum of power swings the other way. If they can't have full control forever they'd rather have gridlock where only a few things squeak through.

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MoneyElk@reddit

Getting rid of the filibuster would be absolutely stupid, gridlock is better than the alternative.

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8492_berkut@reddit

People especially forget about #2, and I'm tired of it.

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ButterscotchFront340@reddit

Filibuster.

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Thatsthatandchicken@reddit

People don't realize we need 60 votes in the senate to pass something. So we will need about 6 democrats to cross over.

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HSR47@reddit

Yes and no.

It's all down to whether or not a given issue has enough popular support to sustain a filibuster.

For the various pro-2A proposals currently "on the table", I think some form of substantive National Carry Reciprocity bill is what we should focus on--it would have the biggest positive impact long term, and it's the most likely to pass: This map proves the first, and for the second the actual results of carry rights prove their fearmongering (e.g. "blood in the streets") is the opposite of reality.

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Impossible-Throat-59@reddit

There will be an excuse. They just won't.

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boostedb1mmer@reddit

There won't even be an excuse. They just won't pursue it. Then they campaign on "c'mon guys, just one more try. We'll definitely follow through this time." They're had total control in 2016 and did nothing. fuck em.

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HSR47@reddit

"they had total control in 2016..."

No, they didn't.

In the Senate, bills theoretically only need 50 votes to pass, but that vote doesn't happen until debate closes.

The Senate also has almost unlimited debate--as long as someone is willing to stand at the rostrum and speak to keep debate open, the only way to get to a vote is to invoke cloture, which requires 60 votes.

Last I checked, [the 115th Congress}(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115th_United_States_Congress) only had 54 Republicans, not 60. Similarly the 119th Congress will also have fewer than 60 Republicans.

I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think HPA has any real chance to get through a democrat filibuster in the near future.

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HSR47@reddit

Two things:

That's not how the U.S. Legislature works. The Senate has traditionally had unlimited debate, which makes filibusters (keeping debate open to delay/block a vote) possible. These days, the only way around a filibuster is to invoke cloture, which requires 60 votes. Last I checked, there will be fwer than 60 Republican Senators when the 119th Congress convenes in January.
Pushing hard for HPA right now would be a strategic blunder: Of all the proposals currently on the table, National Reciprocity has the biggest upside potential, and it's not even close. As Breitbart observed, "All politics is downstream from culture"--If you look at this gif a fairly clear pattern emerges: States that recognize the fundamental carry rights of their citizens tend to get better gun laws over time, and states that deny the fundamental carry rights of their subjects tend to get much worse over time. If we're able to enact National Reciprocity, it'll start the process of helping the remaining "bad" states (e.g. NY/NJ/CA/MA/etc.) get better on their own. That process will take time, but it will let us pass most of our current wishlist (e.g. HPA, protect standard-capacity mags, protect self-loading rifles, NFA reform, repeal 922(o), etc.) over the coming decades.

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DosEquisVirus@reddit

Hell yeah!

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biggerfasterstrong@reddit

RINOs.

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exploding_pancake@reddit

It's cute that you think Republicans will do anything.

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Brewtown@reddit

"I like to take the guns first"

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TheRealPaladin@reddit

Legislatively speaking, most of the Republican agenda is dead on arrival. Any wishlist items that require 60 votes to get cloture in the Senate simply aren't going to happen unless they are willing to give the Democrats something big in return. Even then, pro-gun bills won't stand a chance in hell of passing since not all of the Republican senators are really pro-gun.

For the next two years, at least, the Republicans will be able to, more or less, readily confirm judges and political appointees. However, their legislative agenda is mostly already dead since only essential bills will be able to make it out of the senate. Even in the House, the razor thin Republican majority means that they won't be able to accomplish much since they can't afford many defections.

People in this community, in particular, and in the electorate, more generally, need to disabuse themselves of the notion that simply having control of the presidency and congress means that their party can do whatever it wants. while it is somewhat true for the House the Senate, on the other hand, was deliberately set up to be a body when intense debate can happen and where either a consensus is reached or everything grinds to a halt. It just so happens that our current political environment causes a lot of grinding sounds.

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Divenity@reddit

filibuster exists, why do people always forget this?

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Great get the fuckers on record. Can you explain to me what is there is to lose? No one has explained that part yet

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Divenity@reddit

You didn't say that, you said "push through", that means passing the chamber. There's a stark difference between those two things.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

I have been involved n 2A long enough to know shit takes a long time and doesn’t always work out (actually mostly doesn’t!). But sitting around and crying does literally to 0. We need to be on the offensive and not constantly on the defensive. If you don’t want to help because you’re either lazy or hate 2A please just stay out. We don’t need you

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Divenity@reddit

Yeah, stop bud. You made this post saying "no excuse not push through the hearing protection act", literally saying there is no excuse for us to not pass it, as if you expected us to be able to pass it just because we have a simple majority. When I simply remind you that the filibuster exists you roll in with this "crying does 0" and "stay out" shit as if that had anything at all to do with what I said.

I am not crying, I am telling you to curb your expectations. Chill the fuck out.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Sorry bro I’m bugging. For some reason a lot of the replies here are from liberals who don’t care at all about 2A and just found this thread or something. Please accept my apology 🙇‍♂️

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akambe@reddit

Oh, yeah. It'll be all sunshine and lollipops now. /s

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Sorry your candidate lost and can’t take my guns on a federal level.

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PandorasFlame1@reddit

If you think that Trump gives a singular fuck about gun rights, you haven't been paying much attention. This isn't a Trump vs Harris thing, it's a DC vs The People thing.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Trump just announced he is supports full conceal carry reciprocity. Meanwhile Kamala banned me from getting any handguns designed after 2013 because they were “unsafe”

https://x.com/txgunrights/status/1855413299292103062?s=46

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PandorasFlame1@reddit

There's still multiple excuses. They don't care about us, they get kickbacks for not making life safer for us, they get kickbacks from having extra fees on things, and again, they simply don't care.

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Netan_MalDoran@reddit

Election isn't over bud, the House is still anyones game.

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smalltownnerd@reddit

Tax cuts will be their top priority.

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Devilsbullet@reddit

You think the Republicans are gonna give a shit about that? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Oh you sweet summer child

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doogles@reddit

You mean like exactly eight years ago?

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TheGreatTesticle@reddit

My state, despite being gun friendly and electing Republicans at the state level, votes blue federally. I've gotten some terse replies from my rep about gun stuff.

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AmIACitizenOrSubject@reddit

Filibuster.

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InfectedBananas@reddit

You and I know there will only be things done with trump in charge

tax breaks for wealthily
benefits for non-wealthy cut
contracts for his friends or other ways to enrich himself

Anyone don't believe me, list out the biggest legislation that trump did in his first term and it will correspond to one of those.

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Bringon2026@reddit

There is not 60 votes in the senate. So there is a very good excuse.

But we need to push for the bill to be voted on, so we can get democrat senators on the record.

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Flux_State@reddit

Wrestling isn't real

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Bovaloe@reddit

It's still real to me! 😭

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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Spiritual_Ad_6064@reddit

pretty much exactly

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Squatingfox@reddit

They ain't gonna push it through and you know it.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Ok so try nothing? Loser mentality

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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Squatingfox@reddit

Yeah, why? What in the fuck does that have to do with the Rs incontrol not doing fuck all and jack shit. Should I have voted for a different person? Guess what I did! Did it make any fucking difference? No! I never ever ever vote for the incumbent. Are you gonna call me a liar cause it's the internet? Probably!

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357MAGNOLE@reddit

Everyone on every gun forum needs to collectively commit to messaging our representatives to push the issue.

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Nail_Whale@reddit (OP)

Yes exactly. I confused why everyone is making this about Trump. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR!!! APPLY PRESSURE THERE. Once it passes the house then we go to Trump, but would he really veto a minor pro gun bill? Very unlikely

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ThatBeardedHistorian@reddit

This is a law I'd like to see pass. Having a suppressor doesn't make firearm whisper quiet. But it does help our hearing. Hell, we'll still need ear pro.

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UncleMark58@reddit

Don Jr and Eric are both big gun guys, and quite sure they have expressed their feelings to their father on gun rights.

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Blue_58_@reddit

Why are you hoping on a candidate’s sons to guide his decisions and not his own politics? We didn’t elect his sons.

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UncleMark58@reddit

Because he respects and listens to his son's opinions.

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PuffPuffFayeFaye@reddit

You need more than a 50% majority in the senate. They can push it through is they get some across the aisle support.

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cobigguy@reddit

Senate is 53/47 GOP.

House is currently 212/200 GOP with 23 to be called, 218 for majority, with 11 GOP currently leading.

But there are some seriously close races, like Gabe Evans in CO, currently winning his race by less than 2000 votes and Mariannette Miller-Meeks, currently winning by less than 1000.

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United-Advertising67@reddit

If you don't have 60 votes, it doesn't matter. 63-65, really, because some GOP senators can always be counted on to turn coat.

Not one single Democrat will ever vote to actually expand or improve gun rights. Hell will freeze over first.

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Blue_58_@reddit

Not one single Democrat will ever vote to actually expand or improve gun rights.

But that’s not true and just divisive rhetoric. Bernie Sanders has a famously “mixed” background when it comes to gun control. Different states, different electorates, different perspectives. People in heavily urbanized states tend to be more actively anti gun. Blue states that are less urbanized (like Vermont) tend to be “gun-centrists”

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PuffPuffFayeFaye@reddit

I should have been more clear I guess. You need, I believe, 60 votes in the Senate to pass non-budgetary matters. If they don’t hit that they cant2 “push through” anything on firearms.

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89LSC@reddit

Do you think they could repeal NFA tax stamps as a budgetary matter?

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PuffPuffFayeFaye@reddit

I honestly have no idea what the limits on that scope are. It may just be “norms”.

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CHL9@reddit

Definitely

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Walleyevision@reddit

Republicans have owned all three before and didn't do Jack Shit for 2A rights. Why is everyone convinced the target of assassination attempts is going to reward gun owners with anything?

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Thatsthatandchicken@reddit

Republicans have owned all three before and didn't do Jack Shit for 2A rights.

Because we needed democrat senate votes to get to 60 votes to pass something. Republicans were ready.

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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CarsGunsBeer@reddit

Every supervisor I've had working always told me, "If you don't bring a problem to my attention then as far as I'm concerned there is no problem". I can't imagine political reps think any different. Write your senators.

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Due-Net4616@reddit

Contact your reps. I emailed mine yesterday. Push, push, push, push, and push some more. Make it known to them that this is what we want. They aren’t here in this Reddit community and if you’re willing to type your wants here, you should be able to type it to your rep. The whole reason the anti-gunners were winning in the past is because they know this already.

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BUTTLICKER418@reddit

What did you email them? I got plenty of time to burn at work to do this, just not sure where to start or what to say kinda

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Due-Net4616@reddit

I started with congratulations on winning the election not only for the presidency but for taking all three seats of power. Gotta play the psychological game. Giving them a pat on the back before telling them your concerns and expectations will get their attention and make them feel accomplished.

Be professional and don’t come across whiny or offensive. They’ll throw your opinion out the window if you come off confrontational.

I let them know that I’m one of the people that voted for them to tie my expectations to my vote and the reason they are still seated. I also let them know I’m a member of FPC and GOA and that we have expectations. The focus of my email yesterday was about the expectation of them resubmitting the SHUSH act to remove suppressors from the NFA. I went into details about how Hollywood representations of them are fake and that they only reduce the sound to hearing safe with many still causing instant hearing damage. I also let them know that in many countries with far stricter firearms regulations that suppressors flow freely and should not only not be regulated by the government, but that they should actually be a recommended item.

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Speedmaster1776@reddit

Repeal the NFA even, at the very least the Hughes amendment

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DeafHeretic@reddit

However, the GOP & Trump say that doing away with the ACA (ObamaCare) is more important. That is what they wasted all their time and political capital on in Trumps first term.

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the_hat_madder@reddit

You're going to get exactly fuck all from this Congress.

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-Samg381-@reddit

A lot of people here are quick to forget strategic victories like NYSRPA v. Bruen. That was a direct result of Republican control of the White House. I'm just as skeptical and weary as the next guy, but we need to put on the pressure nonetheless.

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NEp8ntballer@reddit

we were close until a well timed shooting where a 'silencer' was used.

It won't happen though. There's little to no chance for it to pass when there's much more to be gained by keeping guns as a ballot issue.

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skunimatrix@reddit

Have to get past the filibuster in the senate.

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RegalArt1@reddit

Idk why y’all thinks Trump is going to usher in a new era of 2A. He’s a New York democrat who saw more opportunity to run as a republican. He unilaterally banned bump stocks without a second thought his first term. He pretty clearly does not give a damn about 2A.

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wildraft1@reddit

It's really gonna suck when all the "2A one issue voters" realize there are exactly ZERO "2A one issue" politicians. They have nothing to gain chasing this at the moment. Eyes wide shut, baby.

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MoneyElk@reddit

I’m a single-issue 2A voter. I live in Washington State and the Democrats that rule this state have screwed over gun owners at every conceivable opportunity.

The only way we get our AWB and magazine capacity bans overturned is by the Supreme Court, guess who appoints justices to said court?

On top of that these are the lower federal court appointments that can set precedent with overruling bans, look no further than the Trump appointed judge that just ruled Illinois’ AWB unconstitutional.

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wildraft1@reddit

Judges don't legislate. We're talking about passing actual laws. That's where it has to come from. 2A friendly judges are certainly important, and hopefully they'll eventually overturn those bans, but we need federal laws put into place. I just don't see a scenario right now where our lawmakers have any interest in pursuing that. No political gain.

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MoneyElk@reddit

Yes, I am aware of the differences regarding the three branches of our government.

The chances of any pro-2A legislation passing at the federal level is effectively zero considering the filibuster, the only real way anything passes is if it’s in an omnibus bill.

The most realistic wins are to happen in the courts, that’s just the reality of the situation. Additionally, I am not asking for judges to legislate, only interpret our Constitution as it was written and amended.

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3900Ent@reddit

I want y’all in the gun community that live in a fairytale to get fucking real for just one second. Like, legit be fucking serious. I don’t get what’s hard to understand that the 2A movement, is used as the tool to get votes. The same way Dems use the minority population (like myself) to get the votes they need. Once they get the votes, the old dickheads in control do not give a fuck about 2A. They know how to get folks behind em when necessary, and as soon as they get what they want, it’s over.

Trump is NOT pro 2A. He has proven that time, and time and time again. The NRA, Republicans and people at the top would sell our rights to the highest bidder. They have clearly shown that time after time again. Yet every time Red gets in the driver’s seat, yall have this illusion that every gun act, movement or law under the Sun will pass, be repealed or disintegrate into thin air.

I hate all the gun laws, ATF and processes we have to go through as well, but be fuckin real. We can try whatever to move the needle, but to expect things to drastically change is just a pipe dream.

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Both_Objective8219@reddit

The democrats can still utilize the filibuster to halt things in the senate

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noahsuperman1@reddit

Lmao u think they will actually do something u must be new to politics

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Ikora_Rey_Gun@reddit

Did you vote?

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noahsuperman1@reddit

Yeah of course it’s minimum I can do but I’ve watched politics enough to know that what they say on the campaign trail is completely different than what they do in office

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uninsane@reddit

Trump and the GOP congress won’t do shit for us because the don’t give a flying fuck about us. They care about clearing the obstacles so the wealthy can make even more money. That’s it. They just pay lip service to culture war shit that gets votes. Mark my words.

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DEIhire@reddit

Oh god yes!

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Bobathaar@reddit

Gluck with that. With 1 week wait times on efile form 4's... every new can owner is, lets be honest, one less person that gives a shit about the hearing protection act.

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dante662@reddit

I mean, the main reason is keeping the issue alive to stoke anger in their voters so they keep getting donations and re-elected.

Republicans pushing anti-abortion laws in various states is the only reason the Dems kept the senate and kept the house competitive in 2022, and the only reason it wasn't a 50 state blowout. Kamala had no policies, no excitement, nothing, except hysterical claims that Tzar Donald will drag women off to camps to be breeding mares. Getting what you want can bite you sometimes, and politicians know that.

Now, the hearing protection act will be hilariously misrepresented in the media, with all sorts of scary stories of legions of white supremacists roaming the night, silently murdering all the poor . I can see why some GOP folks will be wary of voting for it. Even when it's the right thing to do, the optics (haha, get it?) can be bad for re-election.

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lucky-penny01@reddit

Yes this right here!!!!!!!

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santar0s80@reddit

They won't push it through because then they can't buy your future vote by promising to push it through.

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SayNoTo-Communism@reddit

Filibuster. Gotta work something out with the Dems if you want anything to pass.

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vertigo42@reddit

Republicans dont have 60 votes to break fillibusters so technically no they could be stopped.

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Shootist00@reddit

STOP with the Fucking Laws. We don't need any new laws. Enforce the ones we have properly and remove some of them.

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avowed@reddit

They don't have 60 in the Senate Congress isn't passing shit. God I can't stand people who don't know how Congress works and just yell at them to pass things. Yeah if only it was that easy bud!

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bsibe2006@reddit

This is not a repeat from 2016…

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yoyoloo2@reddit

This shit has been attempted since 2015. Trump and the republicans could have passed this when they had the numbers back in 2016, but it didn't happen because they don't actually want to.

Don't forget that this is Trump's second term. During the running of every second presidential term is when the candidate will promise you the world because they don't have to worry about actually following through with their promises since they can't be re-elected. Don't get your hopes up.

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boostedb1mmer@reddit

Spoiler: they don't

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Self-MadeRmry@reddit

That’s it? Just the hearing protection?

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SurviveAdaptWin@reddit

Just like last time REPs had the senate, house, and presidency and they did it... right?

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Cleopatra2001@reddit

On one hand OBVIOUSLY, on the other I’m gonna spend like 10k to buy silencers for all my guns the day it gets passed lol

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Stumpy_Dan23@reddit

Good luck with that one

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SayNoToStim@reddit

You guys are fucking high if you think politicians are actually going to do anything like this on a federal level.

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HeloRising@reddit

Oh my sweet summer child.

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Casanovagdp@reddit

Why? Then they won’t have anything to campaign on next cycle. They will pass some sort of infringement and claim victory in the name of compromise and say “ think of how bad it would be under democrats “

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HozzM@reddit

And yet…I’d be shocked if it happens.

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Brokenblacksmith@reddit

why? if republicans actually push through protection for gun rights, they'll lose their biggest platform.

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mkosmo@reddit

Continued protections and growth are the logical evolution of that particular component of the platform.

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gkcontra@reddit

Control is not a supermajority, they can’t just slam through anything.

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SN4FUS@reddit

If you think the next administration gives a flying fuck about gun rights you're deluded. They're the anti-anti-gun party. They're not pro gun and never have been. At best they will preserve the status quo.

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veive@reddit

I like the idea, but honestly I have bigger fish to fry when I call my senator's office.

We need a national voter ID law and some penalties for abuse of official power first.

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Aggressive_Local8921@reddit

Me want hushpickle

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veive@reddit

You are a lot more likely to get a hushpickle and get to keep it in the long run if we close the door on things like judges preventing audits of voter registration in jurisdictions that when they eventually ARE checked are found to have 17% fraudulent voter applications.

*Cou* LincolnCountyPA *ough.*

Whew, it's dusty in here.

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Low-Acanthaceae-5801@reddit

Nothing will happen. The pro-2A lobby simply doesn’t have deep enough pockets to make GOP leaders take action. Not enough people are donating to pro-2A lobbies and that’s part of the problem.

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Ottomatik80@reddit

Oh, child. You’ll eventually learn that no politicians give a damn about our rights. Things never get done until their base begins to vote them out of office.

The republicans will not begin to restore our rights, if they did, they would have one less issue to use to divide their subjects.

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