Concerning Rule 3 - 'No Current (post-2008) Politics and the 2024 US Presidential Election

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theshub@reddit

I fully understand the echo chamber and only interacting with your own bubble now. I really thought Harris was going to win this one. I never dreamed of what essentially turned into a blow out.

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Wonderful-Emu-8716@reddit

I mean 51-48 isn't a blowout, it's an evenly divided country that has a somewhat strange electoral system that turns a slight majority into a blowout in the electoral college.

That said, almost every part of the country and every demographic went more red--and that shocked the hell out of me.

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qualmton@reddit

America is not okay. Everyone is scared and looking for answers.

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At_the_Roundhouse@reddit

It’s New York City’s maga increase that floored me (I say that as a New Yorker)

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Yep. Still, trying to put the pieces together but honestly I think I'm gonna outbthisnpuzzle in the closet. I seriously think I done, no more politics or Colbert at 1030 every night...nope, im just done. Dog walks and flowers and dinners, that is my new life. I'm done with all this. Lord knows I tried

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mikeisboris@reddit

Yeah. I just unsubscribed from news and politics subs, finally deactivated Facebook. I don’t want or need to be angry all the time.

I still get the Sunday newspaper, mostly to use in the fireplace if I’m honest, but I think that may be my new way of somewhat keeping up with the world.

The physical newspaper doesn’t have a comment section I’ll be drawn to read.

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30HelensAgreeing@reddit

Hey! Newspapers are for more than kindling!!

They really are superior when used in place of paper towel or actual towels for cleaning glass. I’d subscribe just for that, but coffee filters work great too.

I say this as a former print journalist, and think I’ve earned my right to. If you need more kindling, I have this old diploma you can use.

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Zsirhcz1981@reddit

As a current printer of newspapers, I always tell folks that it’s going to the bottom of a birdcage.

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Zsirhcz1981@reddit

As a newspaper printer, I am thrilled to hear I’m not the only Xennial taking a paper!!!!

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LoveYouNotYou@reddit

Oooh, look at you, with a fireplace...must be nice... Probably get some coffee/tea/wine and just drink while it crackles, probably got a cat or a dog to pet and cuddle, probably can a read a book and just be busy... Niiiice!

Jelly lol

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mikeisboris@reddit

Lol I literally have a fire going right now with music playing, and whiskey on the rocks on the table next to me. The corgi is laying near the fire all cozy.

Thanks for the perspective, things are pretty great for me internet friend.

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donnadoctor@reddit

Dog tax please

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mikeisboris@reddit

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Prestigious_Egg_6207@reddit

Ooh what’s his (her?) name?

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mikeisboris@reddit

Oliver Biscuit :)

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donnadoctor@reddit

That’s delightful

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Prestigious_Egg_6207@reddit

Omg adorable. Give him some rubbins from me.

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donnadoctor@reddit

Thank you!

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LoveYouNotYou@reddit

Aww, no problemo!

That set up (from the dog tax picture) looks so nice! Oooh, you got it good homie lol

Enjoy. It's been rough I'm sure but you made it so far... Nice job 👏

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DuranDourand@reddit

Hey I have a corgi too. She overweight and gets hot quickly so she stays away from the fireplace though.

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mikeisboris@reddit

Ours is weird, he’s not very food motivated, he basically gets all the dog food he wants and only eats an amount that keeps him at a healthy weight.

We do call him Ollie Pizza Crust though, he is a bit of a begger.

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DuranDourand@reddit

Haha. Mine will knock over my 6 year old if he is walking with food to steal it from him. She is a hairy pig.

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mikeisboris@reddit

Here’s our loaf.

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Medical-Purple@reddit

We just lost our pupper of 13 years this past month. My black speedbump/lego(always tripping over her)

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mikeisboris@reddit

Aw, I’m sorry man. Ours is nine and I’m so sad that he is getting old, he’s my best bud.

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Medical-Purple@reddit

She was mine as well. But she needed to go to chase the big bone in the sky, cancer was getting to her

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DuranDourand@reddit

Oh potato dog. Such a rollie pollie dog.

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Medical-Purple@reddit

Always time to stop and say hi to the puppers

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Mother_Sand_6336@reddit

Reddit: C’mon guys! Get upset and angry about politics!

Xennials: Nah, man, I’m chilling with my corgis.

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DuranDourand@reddit

Damn straight.

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Hairy_Ad4969@reddit

Things are going pretty great for me too. Unfortunately I had to leave for a work trip this morning at 4AM instead of staying home to console the family and reassure them it’s gonna be ok.

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TransomBob@reddit

I just downloaded an extension for reddit where I can plug in specific keywords and it hides all posts containg those keywords. It's cleaned up reddit for me, and has helped my sanity immensely.

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NothingAndNow111@reddit

Ooh, what's it called?

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jrice441100@reddit

I did the exact same thing today.

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MelpomeneAndCalliope@reddit

I’m thinking about unsubbing from those.

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mikeisboris@reddit

I figure I can always resub when I’m willing and ready. I tend towards pessimism already though and I’m just tired. I don’t need to be angry all the time.

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New_Needleworker_473@reddit

I hadn't used Facebook since 2016 when I deleted it in 2019. I mostly read the news unless there's something going down "live" that I need to see. I gave up on that shit a long time ago. It's weird. People act very strange when I say I don't have social media. I'm pretty sure my kid's friends' moms think I'm in witness protection or work for the agency or something. Lol!!

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WinFam@reddit

They do though! Like look at you like you have 3 heads or something!
And then there are the ones who say "good for you" or "I should do that", or "I wish I didn't", etc.

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VaselineHabits@reddit

Yeah, the husband and I are basically blocking any news. I aged in dog years the first time, I don't have the emotional or mental capacity to worry about everything he'll destroy.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Yeah still going to vote. Will be sad when they round up the Hispanics and put them into camps. But not going to pay attention anymore it’s too maddening to see what Russian disinfo is doing to us, and so easily.

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NightWriter500@reddit

I legitimately think I’m going to have to talk to my wife about not trying for another baby. It’s just too risky right now and I can’t deal with the thought of her bleeding out while a doctor says he won’t risk his job to help. It’ll be too late in four years, so I think we just won’t have any more kids. That makes me sad.

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CyberMike1956@reddit

Get real, no doctor or nurse is going to let your wife bleed out. Just because this is repeated 12000 times on reddit doesn't mean it's true, even in Florida.

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NightWriter500@reddit

It sucks that you don’t know that this has already happened multiple times. https://www.fox8live.com/2024/11/04/woman-suffering-miscarriage-dies-days-after-baby-shower-due-states-abortion-ban-report-says/

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CyberMike1956@reddit

That's in Texas not in Florida as I referenced. Probably fake too.

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NightWriter500@reddit

I understand that there is no way to square reality with your head, and that’s something you’ll have to live with the rest of your life. But just because something happened that you don’t like, doesn’t mean it’s fake. Also who the fuck cares about Florida? Who said a god damn thing about Florida? I don’t live in Florida and that state doesn’t have shit to do with me. And neither do you.

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CyberMike1956@reddit

Wow, get some help. Talk to a mental health professional.

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BIGepidural@reddit

If you're really serious get a vasectomy because they're gonna go after birth control and they may even stop vasectomies; but you can have it done promptly as a day surgery and it can always be reversed.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

They won’t do anything to men

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BIGepidural@reddit

If they want more babies they could absolutely control men's vasectomies as well.

Working class men are drones to them. They're meat for slaughter in war, voting power and something to be used to make more profit.

If they want more babies they will make it happen.

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Necessary_Range_3261@reddit

You’re our age and still planning babies? Ugh! I can’t even imagine.

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Medical-Purple@reddit

Don't knock it...it keeps you young....ish, lol. Got a 2 and 4 yrold, both boys and just as big of troublemakers as their dad

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NightWriter500@reddit

I’m like 44. Wife’s 42. Got a four year old.

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Jermine1269@reddit

This is the right answer I think. Still vote, but just try to shut out as much as possible in the meantime.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

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EliteCheddarCommando@reddit

Respectfully, I don’t think will happen. That Hispanics will be rounded up into camps. I’ve seen that stated on Reddit throughout the day. I just can’t envision that happening.

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CalamityClambake@reddit

I mean, I didn't envision women dying of sepsis in hospital parking lots, but here we are.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Family separation was absurdly cruel too

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That_Skirt7522@reddit

I’m not giving up on politics. It’s hard and people have died to make changes. This is a a bump in the road. No one benefits when we disconnect long term. Take a day or week or months to regroup, but keep voting and understanding the needs of others so change comes one day. If you totally let go the other side (whichever party is the other side to you) will keep going and convincing people their way it’s the best way.

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CharlieTrees916@reddit

I did this a couple years ago and it helped my mental health. I still come across news on Reddit, but I shifted my focus to more local issues and making progress in my personal life instead of stressing.

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medusa_crowley@reddit

This is the way. I’m so grateful to live where I do.

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Melraiser81@reddit

Me too, a couple years ago. Reddit is the only SM I participate in so it's been fairly easy. I still read things here and there every week because I don't want to bury my head in the sand either. But it doesn't need to take up so much of my time and energy in my daily life. I got enough problems, including depression and feeling irritated with others. Don't need these selfish, frustrating politicians and talking heads riling me up more every single day. It's been a lot better for my mental health.

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mtb0022@reddit

I usually listen to news podcasts on my commute. Today I only listened to music. I know what the news is, and I’m not sure when I’ll go back to the podcasts.

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tastysharts@reddit

I have so many books I want to read.

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beachguy82@reddit

Blow up your tv, throw away your paper…

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jholla8943@reddit

The people of the USA spoke with the power of the vote. I thought a lot of people would be fed up with the direction the country was headed to, already in. I was right. I hope that we will all prosper and have a great next 4 years. As a country of people with different views and beliefs, I think that it is owed to us as a nation to have the very best. We all work hard, and hopefully, all have the pride that we have, in the greatest nation on the planet. You can look at it as her and the current administration had the chance to do great things and fix the current problems that everyday Americans deal with on a daily basis. They had the chance to fix it, and from my opinion, I did not feel that happened. To act like now is the time to do what should have already been done is silly. Everyone is entitled to views and opinions that directly affect daily life. I think one of the major issues in this country is the media. Different outlets are biased in different ways. Just in the last 24 hours, I've seen so much contradicting reporting. If we just take a step back and take in all the facts, do your own do diligence and make our own views and opinions, we will all be better off. I'll sign off with a hope that we all continue to prosper and provide for our families and ourselves. That's what we are all here for anyway, right? The American dream? Isn't that what we all do the grind for? I for sure can say that's my main goal. This sub is awesome for the trips back to the good ol days, when life was easier and simple. I want the same for my kids as much as that will be a difficult journey. I hope everyone on this sub continues the greatness that makes us xennials, the best generation that has come.

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WinFam@reddit

I can't decide if I want to say how much I like this post, or to tell you that I hope you still feel this way in 8 years (our age difference) because I could see myself having said something similar a few years ago.

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jholla8943@reddit

I appreciate your reply. You can say both too. I'm assuming your 8 years my senior. I feel like I will have the same feeling then too. My kids are 8 and 10 and in 8 years they will be on the verge of young adulthood. I hope i can set them up for success. Who knows what the world will be in that time, anyone's guess could be right. I just hope I will still be here then. Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone. All I know is if I can help in anyway (voting, parenting, and providing a stable environment for them to flourish) I'm going to do what I feel is in their best interest. It's funny that my kids told me that the kids in school were arguing about who the next president should be. As cute as that is I told them to leave it up to the the adults. I said luckily they don't need to worry about it and just worry about being a kid. I told them I would love to be back in their shoes again and enjoy childhood. They dont understand being an adult just as i didnt at their age. Of course they don't get it or understand really when I say that. Kid me wouldn't of understood either. Sometimes it's hard for me to be back in their shoes and think of things on their level. The innocents of childhood and keeping them a kid for as long as possible is the goal. This world is so different from what we grew up in. It's so easy for them to grow up too fast with social media, smart phones and all the rest of it. I didn't really start worrying about the world and politics until maybe right after my first was born. Putting yourself second in life once you have kids really puts everything else into perspective. Sorry for another long rant. I really didn't want to get deep into all the politics shit. I just wanted to vent and add to the post on my view on it. I just want my kids to have the best in everything, as any parent would too I think. That's my view on it.

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unbalancedcentrifuge@reddit

Man...careful saying that. I suggested the same thing, and every amateur political analyst came out of the woodwork to inform me that the results were apparently written on the wall before yesterday.

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Zeqhanis@reddit

And now, with abortion bans, abortifacient drug bans, and a plan to make pornography illegal while declaring sex education to be pornography, thereby making it illegal, we're going to see a massive increase in single, young mothers who can't afford to pay for their kids.

In addition to ruining those girls' prospective futures, It will be a huge strain on the economy and will increase gang violence, with gangs sometimes being one of the only sources of older male guidance. I doubt destroying the DoE is going to help either.

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Kellysi83@reddit

I knew she was going to lose. I used to be deep in it. I’ve always been a super progressive person, but I really tried to step back as I saw how politics was tearing family and friends apart. Once I stepped outside and honestly started humbly listening for any ounce of substance from the opposition I started to see that my side hasn’t always operated with the most credibility and in many ways we dropped the ball on working class people.

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WinFam@reddit

Can you say more about this? I honestly feel like I have trouble understanding things, and just from this bit it sounds like I might be able to follow you. 📣👂🏻

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MerryMortician@reddit

Half the things I’ve tried to say have been downvoted to oblivion or shadowbanned. This website BREEDS echochambers.

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Cutthechitchata-hole@reddit

Me too. It's really shocking to me the view of my fellow Americans. Sad and my daughter and mom are the only 2 that understands

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HeyKayRenee@reddit

I am a Black woman who is pregnant right now and I absolutely will have to be very careful about who I let around my child. Of course, I was always going to vet his playmates and social circle, but now I see some household ideologies are straight up dangerous to his well-being. Certain people will not be allowed near him.

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CROBBY2@reddit

If you dove into the data it wasn't that surprising, especially considering Trumps over performance history. But nobody in the media wants a blow out election because it isn't good for business so I believe there was some artificial storytelling going on.

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Johnykbr@reddit

Seriously. The analytics were supporting this for over 3 weeks. People need to step outside of Reddit which is full of astroturfing and partial truths.

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Sp4ceh0rse@reddit

If I learned anything working in the ICU during COVID it’s this: people are not good. Or smart. They do not care about others.

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GustavSnapper@reddit

This is the most real statement of all time. Left leaning voters post on left leaning social media, create their own circle of left leaning friends and family and all stand around shouting at each other to support left leaning ideologies and then act super fucking shook when “nobody” is listening and the results didn’t go the way their chamber was telling them.

There’s no sensible discourse anymore, you’re either a stupid communist or a Nazi if you don’t agree depending on what side you’re on. The future is legitimately doomed because people have based their entire personality around their favourite elected billionaire.

There are many bad people in politics who will continue to remain in politics, but we’ll never change the system because we’re too busy fighting each other and not the system itself.

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SmCaudata@reddit

There are plenty of conservative echo chambers too. Being around like individuals is soothing at times. Just don’t have your head in the sand. 😀

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razorduc@reddit

Might be part of the problem. "Oh, we have this in the bag. Polls say so. I don't need to fill this out and drop it in the mail."

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djsynrgy@reddit

When my wife told me that Biden had officially dropped out and Harris was going to run against Trump, my visceral reaction was "we're f***ed."

As I later expanded on with a friend this morning, "I like Harris; I also know my country."

The Rules haven't applied to The GOP since (at least,) 2000. This didn't surprise me, but it's bolstered my disappointment in humanity, and my fury at the ether.

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medusa_crowley@reddit

It’s largely your last paragraph that makes me think we need to go full bore into fascism before we get out of this, because they will continually make it our fault every time otherwise.

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beebsaleebs@reddit

I felt the same way. I remember Hilary. America hates women.

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ProfessorOfLies@reddit

I would say this was also a result of a deliberate echo chamber created for much of the us still getting their news from television. All the local news stations that were bought by Sinclair media group so they could push a specific narrative to those with little other options helped to sane wash trump for most of the us. While he is getting lampooned all over the internet the vast majority of the fly over states got a different narrative. We were not operating from the same set of facts. This is the direct result of the war on education, free press, and ultra jingoism.

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medusa_crowley@reddit

I realized this in 16 and spent a lot of the next several years trying to fill in knowledge gaps, until it finally hit me:

They WANT that “different set of facts.” It makes them feel great.

And it doesn’t matter what the truth actually is.

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Clear-Tale7275@reddit

It's not just Sinclair. The Philadelphia Action News totally glossed over the stakes in this election and the horrible behavior by Trump

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ProfessorOfLies@reddit

Absolutely. I didn't mean to limit it to JUST them.

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Clear-Tale7275@reddit

I'm not sure you did. I was just adding my own observation because some have said that they don't own the city news so they can be more honest. Not from what I have seen.

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sublimeshrub@reddit

You're right, Trump isn't an organic grass roots movement. His largest donor was Rob Walton one of the owners of Walmart, and the owner of the Denver Broncos whose interests are diametrically opposed to those who just voted for Trump.

To make your point though CNN is owned by a right wing billionaire. NBC is owned by Comcast one of the least popular corporations in the world. Not to even mention the absolute deluge of bullshit hitting people's inboxes. My mom gets dozens of word salad newsletters in her inbox every day. They run banners that capture our location and tailor the propaganda directly to her. One of these newsletters is The Epoch Times which is owned by a literal Chinese cult, Falun Gong.

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ProfessorOfLies@reddit

I also didn't mention fox news or newsmax. Also billionaire owned propaganda machines. Some are just more subtle than others. We need grassroots local journalism and protect our teachers if we are ever going to get out of this.

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ZipperJJ@reddit

I don’t think any of us could truly handle having 51% of the social media we consume or in-person interactions we have be pro-Trump. Especially just for the sake of not being in a bubble.

I’d rather be ignorant in the bubble with other Redditors than out there amongst the crazies

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ScreenTricky4257@reddit

Maybe, but the problem with that is that if people on the other side don't live in their media bubbles and hear both sides, they'll have an advantage.

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Medical-Purple@reddit

That is sadly an isolated point of view. Not all of us watch Fox, or any Major media, nor listen to numerous commentators. It's easier to pull news that is less bias from all sources, and then compare stories to see who is telling a story(here is a hint, they all do. Sensationalism sells). I cannot remember the last time I actually turned on Fox, CNN, NBC, or ABC. Even last night, I was getting my results from Rueters, and they have a bias. Being in a bubble is a bad place to be, because you start to lose the color of the world. We can have differences of opinions, and be cordial about it. Due to social media and the associated tv shows and movies, one side believes that the other is evil or facist or racist or communists, so on and so forth.

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moeru_gumi@reddit

I just saw this and no idea how much import to attach to it. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1gig1e9/whats_up_with_the_new_iowa_poll_showing_harris/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Vegaprime@reddit

It's just like with our kids, monitor the content people in your life injest. I can't even think of a left wing influencers bame, but plenty on the right.

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Synthea1979@reddit

I had the "benefit" of having clients who watched Fox News while I was at their homes (I do home support for the disabled and elderly) and so I saw it coming. I would have been surprised if Harris had won.

Both the RNC and DNC need to dissolve and a proper system to determine the candidate put into place. The fact that Trump and Harris are the best the parties could come up with is appalling.

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BearCat1478@reddit

Yes! I feel ya. It's what needs to happen.

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_MistyDawn@reddit

I completely agree about RNC and DNC -- both sides are a clown show at this point.

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lilecca@reddit

Yup. Social media algorithms can suck if

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firechickenmama@reddit

I feel the same way. I was blindsided.

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sloppypickles@reddit

Thanks for making this thread. I really think it's important for the community to air out their frustrations. I don't want to be the generation that peaked and everything went down hill afterwords. But here we are and apparently people are actually voting for it. Scary times.

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VaselineHabits@reddit

We may need to be the leaders in the resistance.

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Lord_Wicki@reddit

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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qualmton@reddit

Can I say fuck that guy now?

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CaptinEmergency@reddit

I’m disconnecting from news sources for the next few years, I t’ll be much better for my mental health.

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heresmytwopence@reddit

I killed push news notifications from my phone in early 2017 and never looked back. I look for news; it doesn’t look for me.

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waterbird_@reddit

This, and also getting rid of all social media except reddit a few years back. Great choices.

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canisdirusarctos@reddit

Reddit is the most toxic, though.

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waterbird_@reddit

It really depends on how you curate it! I also don’t have the app on my phone. Which helps a little.

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CaptinEmergency@reddit

I dropped social media years ago and just today muted the political and news subs on here.

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therog08@reddit

I’ve stayed completely away from politics since covid. I’ve always muted them on here, today it’s just everywhere. I do not watch the news, ever. I don’t care if it keeps me uninformed, my sanity matters more to me.

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HockeyandTrauma@reddit

I deleted fb and Twitter apps lastnight (but not my accounts). Kept reddit for now.

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forprojectsetc@reddit

I’m trying to do the same. I unsubbed from every news and politics subreddit on my feed.

Not trying to stick my head in the sand, it’s just that all the fears, opinions, and speculations start to become certainties in my mind. It’s not going to do me any good to be in a near constant panic attack for the next X years.

The situation is now well beyond my control. Constant worry isn’t productive.

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originalbrowncoat@reddit

I had this argument with people the first time Trump won. I went on a complete media blackout for almost a year, and a friend basically said I was a traitor. But we have no control here. Trump can burn this country to the ground but that doesn’t mean we have to watch.

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forprojectsetc@reddit

What good did your friend think would come from wallowing in it all constantly?

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originalbrowncoat@reddit

No idea! I don’t regret it one bit!

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heresmytwopence@reddit

Traitor for tuning out the propaganda? That’s a new one. 🤣

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nochumplovesucka__@reddit

Ease your mind, friend

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cloudydays2021@reddit

I am taking a step back as well - not totally stepping away, still want a finger on the pulse.

I’m going to try to channel my energy into a volunteer opportunity that will directly impact people that may be affected negatively by the incoming administration’s policies. Even if all I can do is small-scale, it’s something.

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Intelligent_Pen_324@reddit

I did this after Jan 6 and life got SO MUCH better.

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solorush@reddit

Same. Leaning into video game isolation

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JagarHardfart@reddit

Seems like a good idea. Just got a ps5 and I have some catching up to do. Currently working on jedi survivor and I think going cyberpunk next

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oldmancoyote22@reddit

Cyberpunk is so good. It's definitely a great escape.

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JagarHardfart@reddit

I played it shortly after release for the ps4 and it was almost unplayable. Saw they were doing amazing updates and told myself once I got a ps5 I'd try it again. I'm excited to dive in.

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oldmancoyote22@reddit

That's what sold me one it, plus it was like $10 clearance for the ps4 disc haha. But knowing it was getting the ps5 upgrade and then the edgerunner update just dropped and fixed everything. Plus having just watched Edgerunners at that time I was sold on it.

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jimb0_01@reddit

Horizon Forbidden West and God of War are amazing as well. More games, less news.

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lagomorphed@reddit

Yeahh. I've been trying to stay off the internet today. Trying. It's really just doomscrolling at this point.

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but_does_she_reddit@reddit

Trying to do the same. Plan to get a lot of reading done. Started a book tonight.

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audiosf@reddit

I got off Facebook in 2016 for exactly that reason and I never regretted it.

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mediumokra@reddit

What's done is done. Those who got elected are elected and will do whatever it is they're going to do. I can't do anything about it now, so may as well just buckle up and see what happens, but no sense stressing over what I can't control

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Least-Back-2666@reddit

It only takes about 30 subs to.block on all

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Rice_Eater483@reddit

I think I'll have no choice but to clean up my reddit feed lol. I've never joined one but have plenty of recommendations from news related subs, mostly of the political nature.

I'll check the news here and there and definitely go vote every 2 years. But for the sake of my mental health as well, I don't want to be bombarded by this stuff constantly when shit is bad.

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silverfang789@reddit

I'm just worried about what'll hallen to the ACA under a repub trifecta. It's not perfect, but i use it and don't want to see it destroyed.

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heresmytwopence@reddit

Pre-existing condition protections are going to get scrapped, but that doesn’t mean your insurance company or employer are required to ditch it. If they do, they should get bad PR and people running for the door for doing so. We have to hold them accountable and make it hurt.

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silverfang789@reddit

Right. We can boycott the companies that discriminate.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

We're the first generation not better off than our parents, but our kids are going to have it so much worse than we do.

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noronto@reddit

Both my parents are dead. I am definitely doing better than them.

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SendInYourSkeleton@reddit

I dunno. I kinda envy them right now.

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VaselineHabits@reddit

May you live in interesting times was a curse

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Zbrchk@reddit

Tbf, I think this is largely true for white middle class kids.

I grew up poor in a mixed race family. Thanks to a college education, I am doing infinitely better than my parents ever did and I’m raising twice as many kids and by myself at that.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

For context I grew up poor and white in rural Texas, but I agree my take is a very white one. Unfortunately I think race relations have peaked too, and are about to head backwards quickly.

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canisdirusarctos@reddit

They have been going backward for about 25 years due to the culture wars waged by a certain group. It started to become particularly bad after 2008. Growing up, I suffered some bullying for being güero, but for the most part we found the old racists repugnant and ignorable. But I also grew up in an urban ghetto area (due to gangs, I didn’t encounter young lower class blacks) where I encountered just about every racial group living together in peace. My childhood friends were the children of immigrants from all over the world.

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hockey_chic@reddit

I'm working a lot harder and a lot more to barely make bills. My husband's field has gone haywire and he has zero job security right now.

This election makes me feel like I can't breathe, we were going to try for a family but now. I don't think I can do this to a child.

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JadedJared@reddit

If your decision to have a child or not is based on who the President is, you may want to take a break from Reddit and MSNBC for a while.

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orangepaperlantern@reddit

This is why I’m glad I’m never having kids.

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Sweet_Priority_819@reddit

This was my thought too, so glad I never had kids and thus no grandkids.

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NewsgramLady@reddit

I admit I have two kids myself (16 & 9), but it fucking BLOWS MY MIND that people (like my sister) are willingly and actively getting pregnant left and right. What the fuck are they thinking???

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Purple-Bell-218@reddit

Exactly or how many people in their 40s are having children nowadays. Are they not seeing the world around us? Scary stuff.

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orangepaperlantern@reddit

My sibling is nearly 41 and seems to be considering trying for their first kid. Like, you gotta be out of your mind.

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Purple-Bell-218@reddit

Not even just about the world around us but.... energy wise..... think of the energy needed for a toddler who never stops. To have a toddler in mid to late 40s HELLLLLLLL TO THE NO! 🤣🤣🤣

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kalitarios@reddit

Same. Snipped at 29 and no regrets

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cloudydays2021@reddit

I’m terrified for the kids in my life - nieces, nephews, kids of friends and cousins - but I looked at my husband this morning and said that I was once again happy to be childfree.

Our nieces and nephews are our beneficiaries and I hope that whatever we leave to them will ease the burden of whatever happens down the line.

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shinysquirrel220701@reddit

We had the same feelings today

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canisdirusarctos@reddit

I’m doing only marginally better than my parents. I grew up in poverty and now make well into the six figures. We severely underestimate just how bad inflation has become, and my parents are Gen Jones, so they were dirt poor compared to some of their older siblings. I always hit above my weight socially and my circles included kids from the middle class part of town, so I know what their lives were like. That requires such a comically high income these days that it is mind boggling.

Compared to my grandparents, I’m working poor.

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CharacterWitless78@reddit

This is what I'm afraid of for my kids. Both are still in grade school and it's going to be harder for them to have the way of life that we grew up with

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

We're in about 1930 right now, and whether it's a war or some other grand reckoning, about 10 years away from a massive global paradigm shift. Our kids will be able to rebuild the world in a better way - the ones that survive at least.

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djsynrgy@reddit

I hate how accurate this feels.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

I'm not being a nihilist, I don't think, when I say it's obvious the current trajectory of most of the world is clearly heading for some kind of great explosion. Countries are abandoning democracy and lower-case-L liberal values across the Western World. Russia invading Ukraine is the first military action in a developed country since - I mean I guess you can count the Troubles in the 70s and 80s or the Falklands, but really since the invasion of France. Wealth inequality is topping 18th century Versailles. We're seeing religious intolerance growing like crazy across the world.

It's like that moment in a musical where everyone sings their melody at the same time -the One Day More or the La Resistance - but it's all the things that have led to massive global violence.

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DormsTarkovJanitor@reddit

Yep.

For me it will be about AI. China won't let US develop AGI before they do, and probably vice versa.

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joshhupp@reddit

Well my dad is going to be in for a big surprise if Trump cancels social security and needs a place to live. I'll need to save aggressively for my own retirement.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

My stepdad has dumped literal millions into a scam that's playing on his QAnon bullshit, and he's totally fucked when he can't take care of himself anymore. He's alienated everyone.

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korar67@reddit

Eh, hard to justify historically. The generation of the Great Depression absolutely had it worse than their parents. Prior to that it was a bunch of generations of things being generally shitty unless you were born wealthy. The “Greatest Generation” and the Boomers are a huge outlier historically. Two generations back to back of massive growth and social mobility. Now we’re back to the way things were before. But with more social acceptance. Homosexuality and interracial marriage were straight up illegal before. Now both are either accepted or tolerated nationwide.

So things are worse than they were for our parents and grandparents, but much better than our great grandparents and the generations before them.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

True

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grozamesh@reddit

Only if we have them. There is always time to just stop reproducing and end this whole thing

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

Going extinct because we're too addicted to late stage capitalism to make life livable is kinda poetic, I guess.

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grozamesh@reddit

I'm down with it. Humanity never made good argument for why it should continue to exist

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DarthSangwich@reddit

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Traditional-Coach820@reddit

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I’d give you one of those award thingys, but that costs money and Reaganomics means I will die with a negative net worth.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

Exactly

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

Yeah we all know who started this shit, but thanks for the reminder

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PatienceCurrent8479@reddit

If boomers taught us anything: that ladder aint pulling itself up

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Canadatron@reddit

Better put some bootstraps on that ladder, buddy!

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Traditional_Cat_60@reddit

And we aren’t going to inherent anything to ease the financial pain. My wife’s parent just spent $10,000 on gutter guards for their tiny ranch.

Every member of the family told them they were getting scammed and to just call a different place for a second estimate. But no, they cannot be reasoned with.

It’ll be fun to watch them getting a reverse mortgage in the future. Their kids are gonna lose their fucking minds.

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ICCthrowawayy@reddit

Thank God my parents were both drug addicts who died in their 50s before they could waste my inheritance. Half of a 1300 sq ft home in the San Antonio exurbs, here I come.

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medusa_crowley@reddit

For real. We could have - and should have - done so much better than this.

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n8brav0@reddit

Remember when Bill Clinton got blown and it was a huge deal.

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OtherlandGirl@reddit

Oh man, I’d love to just have a bunch of bj jokes going around.

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At_the_Roundhouse@reddit

I mean to be fair that was last week after the microphone incident

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OtherlandGirl@reddit

Omg, you’re right! But it wasn’t JUST bj jokes :)

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At_the_Roundhouse@reddit

Oh for sure a busy news week, you just walked right into that haha

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tuftedear@reddit

I miss those days.

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justonemom14@reddit

I feel like now is a good time for those G. W. Bush ads that say "Miss me yet?"

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mattchewy43@reddit

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CROBBY2@reddit

If she had done that more...

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Pizza_Horse@reddit

Yet when I told everyone about my first blowie no one cared

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StatementLazy1797@reddit

I did not. Have. Sexual. Relations. With that woman.

Oh, and he also smoked a doob but didn’t inhale right?

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kalitarios@reddit

I did not. Have. Sexual. Relations. With that woman…

…Miss Lewinsky

FTFY

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Purple-Bell-218@reddit

FTFY?....Yes, that old to not know!

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At_the_Roundhouse@reddit

Fixed that for you

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Purple-Bell-218@reddit

Hahaha🤦🏼‍♀️ almost asked you, fixed what for me lol🤣🤣🤣

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LCDRtomdodge@reddit

It's actually a liar's tactic. He didn't forget her name. He used the phrase "that woman" to distance himself from her.

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lagomorphed@reddit

I think Clinton was more into edibles... so technically he didn't inhale.

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GotWood2024@reddit

I heard he did something with a cigar X(

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MuppetMal@reddit

I've been finding solace in listening to old Linkin Park songs. After hearing a few friends share how they did their best to instill hope into their scared teenage daughters, I made a second cup of coffee, played 4 Non-Blondes' "What's Up," and let myself cry.

I'm a therapist, so I'm trying to keep my light and other's lights lit, so to speak. So I remind myself that I'm part of the bridge generation. We’ve lived through transition and turbulence, and we’ve become experts at adapting and thriving. While the world shifts in challenging ways, we carry both resilience and a deep sense of community. Use that unique perspective to foster kindness, build connections, and create safe spaces for those around you. By staying grounded and compassionate, we become agents of hope and change in a world that needs both more than ever. This also helps us because altruism feels good.

Last year, I saw a comment on this sub recommending the book Everything Is F*cked: A Book About Hope to help cope with existential dread. I got the audiobook and found it enjoyable and helpful. The author writes about how humans have been F*cked throughout history and how life is more meaningful when we engage in meaningful activities and respond to situations using value-based behaviors. A lot of what he writes about is similar to what is taught in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). I highly recommend this book and am grateful to whoever wrote that comment recommending it a while back. If I knew which thread it was on, I would give them the credit.

P.S. I love this sub!

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heresmytwopence@reddit

We love you too!

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bjgrem01@reddit

My melinnial side is telling me how sad today is. My gen x side is ready to sit back and watch leopards eat faces.

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violetmarie11@reddit

Perfect description of how I'm feeling today, I couldn't seem to put it into words but this is it!

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-worryaboutyourself-@reddit

This is exactly how I feel today. My brother in law asked if I needed to be put on suicide watch this morning. Nah, but at least I kinda know what’s coming. They have no idea how bad it’s going to get. There will be I told you so’s

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but_does_she_reddit@reddit

Ahh yes. This is a truly 1979 take!

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xt0rt@reddit

That is a spot on feel, and I'm feeling it.

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itsmestanard@reddit

As an outsider in Australia looking in, it's weird what happened. We've also had our own issues the past decade or so with charlatans (-cough- scomo) infiltrating the political class here but in no way would a personality like that orange faced fuckwit ever gain any popularity.

The thing that I feel many yanks don't fully comprehend though, especially those who actually voted for Trump, is the global implications not just for Ukraine and Palestine, but Taiwan, global trade, NATO, climate change etc if he really does make America more isolationist as he has threatened. For example if his idiotic tariffs do get introduced, that will likely slow down China's economy. China is Australia's biggest trade partner and our economy is pretty reliant on our exports to them - so if they get hit, that will flow down to us. If we then get hit, that will have ramifications for the smaller and less developed Oceania nations who rely on us for lots of nation building, development and aid, allowing China to then grow their influence in the region (which they're already doing btw).

And that's just one little dynamic on the other side of the world.

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strider0075@reddit

Unfortunately a lot of Americans know about what's at stack on the world scale they just don't care or even worse, do care but are delusional that he can't do anything bad. I literally had my roommate "ask" me about his stocks that have gone up today. He's very proud at how he's getting more scraps from master's table. I'm going to enjoy rubbing his nose in it for the next 4 years (hopefully) every time his dog shits on the carpet.

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naiiiia@reddit

American who lives in Canada. I don't think it's something most people think about, let alone process. Intellectually I recognized this. Living in a different country and being on the other side, I feel it much more differently. I'm kind of apposed to the idea of any one country being a super power to be honest. Any one country should have the ability to completely affect others to the degree we do.

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lusid2029@reddit

While this sounds good in theory in many ways, think about what we'd have to accept if we give that up- there are tradeoffs. The last time this was a bipolar world was the Cold War, and we had multipolarity in the lead up to WWI. These were not and did not feel like safe, predictable, stable times geopolitically. Russia and China absolutely WILL step into the spaces we vacate. I'm not saying the system we have is a great one for everybody- we have fucked over more countries than I can count- but we have also been the beneficiaries of the stability our position and role has brought us. But all empires do come to an end (and to be honest ours was embarrassingly short).

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JiffyParker@reddit

Everything you mention revolves around the US playing world police to enforce more violence on other countries/people. Wouldn't you want less of an outside influence/violence on your life and be able to dictate your own world ideas and path forward?

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SilverIsFreedom@reddit

I full heartedly agree with you. A lot of the world’s problems are due to the fact that we’ve interjected ourselves all too often on issues that should be solved by the people facing those issues. We don’t need to be Team America World Police anymore.

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WittyAndWeird@reddit

I’ve thought a bit about this too. As much damage that’s going to happen in our country, and there will be plenty, this is going to be felt throughout the world.

I’m truly scared.

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

Ya'll are really pro-war? Approaching 1 million lives lost in the Ukraine meat grinder. $190 billion. Ya'll support a prosecutor who kept black men in jail past their release dates for cheap labor? Wake up. It's not nazis or fascism. Stop being obtuse about why your party's military industrial complex, pharmaceutical industrial complex, propagandist bullshit didn't win.

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

Allowing Russia to annex Ukraine while ignoring the atrocities they commit doesn't make you "anti war", it makes you a tyrant appeaser. That didn't prevent World War 2 by the way.

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

We're not the World Police, colonizer.

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

And that has what? To do with what I said?

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

Literally everything.

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

Like?

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

Wanting to intervene in foreign conflicts and fund mass death for financial interests.

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

The mass death thing was assured the moments the Russians invaded, whether we do anything or not. Our miniscule intervention just gives the Ukranians a fighting chance.

I'm not inclined to complain about the only time that the military industrial complex does the right thing.

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

"The right thing". The world is lucky to have you as the beacon of virtuous murder!

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

Does this mean you think Russia should be allowed to annex Ukraine without resistance?

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forprojectsetc@reddit

So Ukraine is just supposed to roll over and cede its territory to an authoritarian aggressor?

When did the right wing become so cowardly and eager to capitulate to monsters?

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

The U.S. isn't the World Police, colonizer.

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forprojectsetc@reddit

We’re also not supposed to stand aside as tyrants steamroll sovereign nations.

God I fucking hate appeasers. Fucking weak cowards.

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Sensitive-Candle3426@reddit

I don't think you have the fortitude to actually hate anything with any real conviction. You're just repeating what your phone has told you to say.

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tuftedear@reddit

I'm grateful that I grew up when I did and got to experience two awesome decades. But at this point I don't see any hope for this country, how can we possibly recover from this?

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forprojectsetc@reddit

My only solace is this:

We know it’s going to be bad, we just don’t know how bad.

We could luck out (relatively speaking) and only get 4 years of something slightly worse than his first term.

Trump’s circle consists only of vultures and sharks ready in an instant to eat each other. His regime will be plagued with incompetence and backstabbing. Hopefully that hastens its demise.

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Thenadamgoes@reddit

It’s odd to be comforted in the idea of sharks backstabbing and incompetence. But I’ll take anything I can get.

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KBobBears@reddit

For what it's worth there is a massive amount of split ticketing and progressive legislation passing.

For as deeply awful and shitty Trump is there are lots of signs the American public does not want to turn ino Gilead. The MAGA coalition is a weird one because The Joe Roganverse, crypto bros, weirdo incels, Nazis, religious nut jobs, etc. definitely do not see eye to eye and they will fracture soon.

The left needs to have something better than warmed over Obama era vibes ready when that happens.

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piscian19@reddit

My only comment is that it was a big loss for me.

Not ideologically, I have cerebral palsy and am protected under the preexisting conditions clause in the patient bill of rights. Essentially before ACA was past I was constantly battling with my insurance companies because theyd use my cerebral palsy as an excuse to decline coverage for medications and surgeries.

The RNC has attempted to repeal ACA many times but were blocked most famously by McCain.

Theyve committed to continue trying to repeal it and control of the senate its all but guaranteed. The quiet part is that they don't care about ACA. Its the PBOR protections they after due to insurance lobbying.

Now I'm basically on a ticking clock waiting for the repeal to happen and wipe out my protections.

I know for most it seems like some ideology war, but Im literally screwed. I have to start planning for my medical future. Scares the hell out of me because I just had hip surgery. Without the POBR I would have been up shit creek.

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kneedlekween@reddit

Okay, I’m ignorant, explain PBOR please?

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piscian19@reddit

https://www.cms.gov/cciio/resources/fact-sheets-and-faqs/aca-new-patients-bill-of-rights

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kneedlekween@reddit

Got it thanks .

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aafreis@reddit

I don’t have CP but I have MS, I feel it too

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lagomorphed@reddit

Another one with MS and absolutely terrified.

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BearCat1478@reddit

Me 3! I should edit my comment above. A childless cat lady with MS. Literally hoping JD isn't moved forward after a successful assassination.

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lagomorphed@reddit

Yep. Childless rabbit lady with MS. I'm definitely pretty disabled by it, so this whole situation is just scaring me a lot.

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aafreis@reddit

I’m sorry. 😞

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Okra_Tomatoes@reddit

Yes, exactly. It is not an academic problem for so many. I’m so sorry you’re facing this.

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LeoDavinciAgain@reddit

It is an idealogy war. Human decency lost. Now I'm sorry you're in this situation.

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LCDRtomdodge@reddit

Best of luck to you.

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Evalerate@reddit

As a trans woman I learned that most of the nation hates me. Even if I'm wrong and the majority doesn't it's safer for me to think that because the ones that do will definitely be emboldened to voice themselves anyway they deem appropriate now. Including the politicians and the many many laws that are headed my way.

But hey, hopefully lI'm wrong. Here's hoping for sunshine and rainbows

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heresmytwopence@reddit

You are loved by us!

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JimMcRae@reddit

If it makes you feel any better less than 30% of Americans adults actually voted for him.

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nahmahnahm@reddit

Anyone want to talk about Al Gore? I just want to remind everyone that 24 years ago, the Republicans in Florida stole an actual presidential election for Dubya.

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lusid2029@reddit

I'm Iraqi. I absolutely remember the fallout of that >insert lots of swear words here<.

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Union_Sparky_375@reddit

Since this is a safe space here ya go.

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Xennials-ModTeam@reddit

You can safely say something meaningful. Trolling is still not allowed on this or any other post.

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nochumplovesucka__@reddit

Just my opinion folks!!!

But the doom and gloom is counterproductive. I am certainly no fan of Trump. But energy and vibes are real.

Worry and anxiety will do nothing but make everyone sick. And the world will keep on turning, and the sun will rise again.

I say do not succumb to the darkness. Rise above and keep positive!!!! Spread kindness and good vibes wherever you go. I know we're partially the generation of apathy, but now is not the time. That was our youth. All things change and we have too.

They feed on fear and anxiety, don't give it to them.

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lightningandsnakes@reddit

I need at least one day to rage sob 😭

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forgettingroses@reddit

I think it's okay to feel what we feel. We'll all move on and keep living our day to day. We'll smile and laugh. But it's okay to be upset, and it's okay to express it.

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

I'm numb.

America showed me exactly what it is, and probably always was. I'm at a loss to describe the utter insanity of this, I don't even know where to begin.

I'm tired boss.

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gnomon_knows@reddit

We are all tired, and while we try to mentally disengage and take a break they are going to destroy everything. As in, that has always been their goal. The end of the federal government, and the end of democracy. We really do deserve it.

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jbergman420@reddit

I voted for Chase Oliver.

I think Trump is a bad guy

But, if you lose the Senate, the house, the popular vote, and the electoral vote and you think the LESSON is half the country is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and stupid... wrong lesson. And the same thing will likely happen in 2028.

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JimMcRae@reddit

To be fair, it seems like the other 7.8 billion people in the world sort of agree with that take

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jbergman420@reddit

Because that's what they hear from the American media that is bought and paid for.

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DrManhattanBJJ@reddit

half the country is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and stupid.

Sounds low.

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SerpentineSorceror@reddit

All of us queers and non-white folk are right now are assessing what next steps are going to be. Shit is about to escalate dramatically, and my mind keeps going back to an old ACT UP (I think it's ACT UP anyways) pamphlet I have saved on a google doc. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M8yrTIGSHCEWYB8vg64l8XoyYxDz2Tpg/view?usp=sharing and how all the perceived progress that's been achieved is about to go tits up and out the window.

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BearCat1478@reddit

I feel for you. It's bad for so many of us. I'm white and straight but still a childless cat lady with a disability. Anyone not a rich white man is gonna feel it. Some worse than others for sure. Just remember we still love you and we all matter. That's what scares them.

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jbergman420@reddit

I don't think all the "non-white folk" are as worried as you think they are. First of all, I work in an inner city school. All the children of POC were HAPPY that Trump won and that isn't racism. Also, more Hispanics and African Americans voted for Trump in this election than the last one.... Just saying.

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SerpentineSorceror@reddit

Cool, the quislings are happy with their choice. And when their master comes and turns on them, showing the reward for their good work then they'll only have themselves to blame as the leopard they fed turns to eat them.

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chellybeanery@reddit

As a POC, I feel very sorry for them.

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Least-Back-2666@reddit

I need a crossover meme of eating popcorn while sitting in the room on fire.

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cats_n_tats11@reddit

I don't know about you, but I'm popping that popcorn over the fire in the room while hoping for some "reap what you sow" moments within certain populations, and a few hits of schadenfreude for me. Because if I don't picture that, I might lose my mind...

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Real-Championship331@reddit

It's very xennial of you to describe a meme by text rather than making one

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BearCat1478@reddit

That girl scout with the thin mint cookies and the house on fire behind her works just as well!

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EarthLoveAR@reddit

at least in 4 years we'll finally be rid of this toddler clown. i cannot tolerate his awful rhetoric. almost think it would have been better if he had been elected in 2020 and we would have gotten him out of our lives so much fast. i am fucking exhausted bf being bullied and watching this orange monstrosity get his way by force. how to 71 million people accept that???

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NoneOfThisMatters_XO@reddit

I’ve mostly felt a subdued anger today. Like fuck it. You people wanted him? You got him. Now be prepared for the fallout. I fully anticipate a nationwide abortion ban within the next year. Just a start to the checklist he’s got.

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AnswerSure271@reddit

Red Arizona just made abortion a fundamental right until fetal viability or until birth to protect the heath of the woman.

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NoneOfThisMatters_XO@reddit

Yeah great. None of that will matter when they enact a nationwide abortion ban. You’re missing the key word nationwide

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chellybeanery@reddit

This is exactly how I feel as well. Friends, co-workers telling me we gotta get ready for a fight and I'm just like, yeah...I already fought and now I'm done. This country is fucked but I'll be damned if I'm not gonna laugh my ass off when this blows up in these people's faces. We're all fucked equally and I guess they don't know that. They'll figure it out when they no longer have SS and Medicare and no way to get health insurance with a completely broken economy.

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murlocfightclub@reddit

Also gay marriage decision overturned by scotus within a few years, place your bets.

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NoneOfThisMatters_XO@reddit

I thought they codified that? However I saw in another comment they’re going to come for children of gay parents which is just sick.

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Jean_Paul_Fartre_@reddit

Hey, not only are we the generation that started analog and then went digital, we are also the generation that will remember democracy and end it with fascism. Way to go, everyone!

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Hellament@reddit

Let’s just hope we’re not the first generation that went from analog to digital and then back to analog.

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lightningandsnakes@reddit

Lol, that's good shit. Thanks for the laugh, I needed it

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Chummers5@reddit

"We used to vote for our leaders, and it was on a Tuesday!"

"Sure, grandma, let's get you to bed"

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Jean_Paul_Fartre_@reddit

Nailed it

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sevalle13@reddit

I voted 3rd party, however I don't understand why hardcore Democrats are so surprised...while they're sitting over there playing identity politics and calling everyone racist, homophobe etc, the Republicans are talking about inflation and making it so families can comfortably buy groceries again...Now do I think that the Republicans will bring down prices AND keep the economy moving in the right direction, IDK, there's so much rhetoric on both sides it is hard to know but Dems can't keep pissing on the majority of working class non college educated Americans. Just because someone didn't go to college doesn't make them dumb or uneducated, just means they had a career to fall back on (I myself learned IT in the military so no need for college to be successful) or are in the trades usually making more money than the college elites. If you want real change hold politicians accountable of ALL parties. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

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NoAnnual3259@reddit

What are their plans for bringing down prices and inflation? I’ll wait…

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notickeynoworky@reddit

Look, I’m independent. I voted Harris because I’m a realist. A 3rd party president isn’t happening. That said, I didn’t love Biden/Harris. My issues were more geopolitical than domestic though. Economically, compared to the rest of the world, the US has done well. I say all of that just to explain my position I’m coming from.

Ok, so here goes - for every claim of racist or homophobe on the left, there was a claim of Marxist or baby killer or “indoctrinating children” on the right. Harris actually talked in far more detail about her economic policy than Trump imo. She listed several things she’d do. Trumps only talk economic solution was tariffs, which most economists say will end up costing Americans more.

None of this matters though as clearly Trump saying that he’s the best and his “concepts of plans” resonated with more Americans. I could go at length about what I feel the issues with the current Democratic Party and the Harris campaign are/were, but “identity politics” vs “economic solutions” isn’t the issue here imo.

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JimMcRae@reddit

It's telling when one side laughs at being called names and the other gets angry at the truth

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GutsAndBlackStufff@reddit

Well, it's someone's 2 cents. I just wish they used better formatting.

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pixelpheasant@reddit

I checked out after they hung Bernie out to dry.

Since Breaking Points started on YouTube, I've dialed in occasionally when I start to ... hear things. Between that, substack, and here, I keep things at arms length and stay "just enough" informed.

I haven't willingly watched broadcast news in more than a decade. It does not help anyone with staying accurately dialed in to what real people are actually thinking & feeling.

Not surprised at the outcome, just incredibly disappointed. Seriously tho, Dems FA in 2016 and now they're FO -- longtail outcome.

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threeoldbeigecamaros@reddit

I swore Americans were decent people. I trusted that they would not re-elect an indecent person. I was so wrong. We really are a trashy nation. I include myself in that. I am part of this trash.

It sucks to admit, but it’s true

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Four-Triangles@reddit

We were supposed to be the ones to fix this shit. Remember learning about the civil rights movement and slavery and all that ugly shit from the past and being shocked? That could never happen on our watch! And here we are, sitting on the sidelines as our country slides into christofascism.

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Low_Combination5627@reddit

Wr were sold on the promise that america was the best country in the world. And we have shown over and over again it was only for white dudes. And i am so, so, so angry. Idk how or why we got here. But here we are.

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JimMcRae@reddit

Straight white dudes

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Disastrous-Bee-1557@reddit

Remember what Picard said:

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kalitarios@reddit

How many lights?

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PepurrPotts@reddit

There. Are. Four. Lights! Such a great line.

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kalitarios@reddit

My favorite is:

Not again. The line must be drawn hee-ah! This fah, no fathah!

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CantCatchTheLady@reddit

In the darkest night, you can see the stars the best and there are billions.

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BearCat1478@reddit

Along with the starlink light pollution too!

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GotWood2024@reddit

Kamala had a good concession speech. Keep fighting.

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LoveYouNotYou@reddit

I haven't seen it yet, I'll look for it when I get home later. And then after that I'm watching movies and going off Reddit for a few days. Gonna change my subs- no more politics. It is what y'all make it people, enjoy the show.

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Dimmer_switchin@reddit

Frodo: ‘It’s a pity Bilbo didn’t kill Gollum when he had the chance.’

Gandalf: ‘Pity? It’s a pity that stayed Bilbo’s hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.’

Frodo: ‘I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.’

Gandalf: ‘So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides that of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, in which case you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought.

J.R.R. Tolkien

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_Face@reddit

r/Star_Trek_ welcomes us all. fresh-ish g'augh, and 2309 bloodwine. q'Pla!

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larryb78@reddit

I’m trying to remember how panicked we all were when W took office and how economic disaster to one side it wound up being mostly ok. This is a much more dire situation for sure but it’s all I’ve got to cling to right now

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tastysharts@reddit

I'm old enough now to have watched the pendulum swing back and forth, back and forth. I know I've been told as we age we become more conservative because conceivably, we have more to lose. I remember Dukakis, Gore, Hillary, I feel like I even remember Carter. I remember the guy who lost because he yelled weird. I remember when The supreme court dude left his pube on a woman's coke can. I remember the endless misogyny, the Reagan years, the punk ERA (I miss this one the most). I remember the anger and good music from the youth. So many great bands, so many great shows. I remember not understanding why my mom was sad about Reagan. I remember everything.

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FlowerMaxPower@reddit

I do kind of want to delete all news apps and Reyes into my bubble.

But i feel so much guilt at the idea. It's so privileged but i also have no clue how to help

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Dimmer_switchin@reddit

May I suggest r/optimistsunite for a better outlook on things than most might have.

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BIGepidural@reddit

I gotta say, after seeing the breakdown of voter demographics I'm pretty pissed- not surprised because some of our cohort have been a certain kinda way even when we were kids; but definitely pissed that more of us didn't stand against them, and show up to make a difference.

I just wanna the cartridge out of the country and blow in it. Maybe smack the globe a few times to see if we can better reception 😥

This supremely sucks though...

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grandpa5000@reddit

I am a centrist who has voted for politicians from both major parties.

Last night, I voted with a hard R.

I don’t like the direction this country has been going, and if we have to rewind things a bit, well, I guess it’s better than the alternative.

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arickg@reddit

Wow. I'm surprised. I started reading this post and thought: oh great another fucken sub that is gonna ban current political talk.

Thank you for doing the opposite. I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts regardless of opinion.

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ElectricSnowBunny@reddit

I haven't had any spam texts or calls today so I am getting a W there and I'll take it!

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WittyAndWeird@reddit

I never got a single political text or phone call. I don’t know how that happened but I was so glad it did!

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ElectricSnowBunny@reddit

you are so lucky omg how

...Although according to my downvotes apparently the spam was much loved I guess.

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Still_Detail_4285@reddit

My phone only rang twice today. Both times my boss. It was great.

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ElectricSnowBunny@reddit

I'm exhausted from it all, to get some peace today was really nice.

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duckduckduck21@reddit

Agreed! I'm so done with political advertising and spam. And it would be so good for everyone to step out of their social media algorithm'd echo chambers and recognize the common ground they share.

Our society is a complete shitshow right now. Got to hand it to the elites though - they successfully changed the narrative from us vs them to us vs us.

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ElectricSnowBunny@reddit

I firmly believe we have way more in common than we don't, and we're allowing the power and money in this country to split us apart and turn us against each other.

I voted blue. If you voted red, you're still my neighbor and you can still come over when I'm grilling up some BBQ chicken thighs.

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Aspence22@reddit

Please no. Every sub has been infiltrated with political shit even if it's damn video games or Simpsons and everything else. Can there be some sacred place, please?

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hallowdmachine@reddit

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

That is all.

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LaeliaCatt@reddit

I keep reaching new levels of disillusionment, even at this age. I don't like this ride.

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FlimsyTry2892@reddit

Who wants to pitch in a land in the desert?

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VectorJones@reddit

I've been reflecting back on the zeitgeist of this country during our run thus far and I can't remember any time when Americans were ever as disengaged from things like they are now. It's just total apathy out there. It reminds me of those scenes in movies when a character realizes they're about to crash or explode and rather than try to save themselves, they just give up and accept it. Think Travolta at the end of Broken Arrow or Tommy Lee Jones at the end of Blown Away.

Sadly, I think Americans as a people have turned a corner that now puts us in a situation not unlike those movie characters. The failure of so many, with much on the line, to show up and save themselves, indicates to me that our collective mindset consists of widespread indifference to the crash and burn we know is coming. All those patriotic speeches and all the fascistic threats didn't move the needle the least little bit. America is just going to fall to its knees and watch it all crash and burn around us.

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BardKalevos@reddit

Today was the first day I ever regretted having children. Not because I don’t love them. I love them dearly. It’s because I don’t believe they will come to age in a kind, just world. And I don’t want them to have children of their own, knowing that it will be even worse for them.

Being a father has been my greatest joy. Until now.

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LeoDavinciAgain@reddit

Today is the first day I've ever been glad my wife and I couldn't have children. And that's sad.

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What_the_8@reddit

This is the best time to be alive in the history of mankind. Do yourself a favor, go spend time with your kids and get off Reddit for a while.

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bigfatcanofbeans@reddit

It's frightening how emotionally unstable people are these days.

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bigfatcanofbeans@reddit

This is unhinged. Please come back and read this again when you're less emotional.

Your kids' future will be determined by what happens in your house, not what happens in the White House.

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ChicVintage@reddit

If I had known this would happen I never would have had them. What kind of world am I leaving them?

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mediumokra@reddit

This is why I never had kids and didn't want any

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WinterDice@reddit

Yeah. Thanks for saying that; it’s a dark thought that I didn’t like admitting to myself. I’m horrified for my daughters. I love them more than anything but I feel so bad for them.

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1ConsiderateAsshole@reddit

To all of you that don’t have kids like me, congratulations

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realauthormattjanak@reddit

Oh good, for a second I thought I might be able to escape that nonsense for a second. Thanks guys!

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ApocolypseJoe@reddit

So what's the game plan? Are we pulling money out of banks? Are we telling our bosses we might be wfh....from Canada for a while? Are we stocking up at the gun store? Or the dispensary? should I be hoarding toilet paper?

Asking for a friend😵‍💫

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Pazylothead@reddit

I’m starting to think it’s our generation to blame. We have been getting fucked since ‘99. At this point we’re not even hiding it anymore, let it all burn down. I’ve come to the absolute realization that I hate both parties and what they stand for, which is nothing but echo chambers of fear and hate for their own country and people. Anyway just venting, downvote me upvote me, I don’t care anymore.

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OkBaconBurger@reddit

It’s hard to express fully how I feel. Today has just been rough. I am filled with worry. I don’t know what kind of future my kids will have. I wonder if I will even have a job a year from now.

I’ve always enjoyed gardening. I think it’s time to lean into that turn off the tv.

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Ezypeezylemonsqueezy@reddit

Every time that I wonder if I made the right choice not to have children, my fellow citizens remind me that I did, in fact, make the right choice. My faith in the US was so bad back in August, I scheduled surgery to get my fallopian tubes removed, and I'm very grateful I had the insurance coverage to make that happen. At least I'm not going to be forced to bring life into a dying world.

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Fairymask@reddit

Yeah I’m glad that I also didn’t have children.

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polygonalopportunist@reddit

I just tried to leave a gif of Peter Jennings…zilch. Nada.

Sorta says it all really.

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eleetsteele@reddit

I am guilty of allowing myself the luxury of feeling confident we weren't going to elect an openly fascist, convict, cheap con artist of a failed businessman. But, you know eggs and gas cost so more so fuck America. We deserve this. people are going to die. The American economy is going to suffer. We did it to ourselves.

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TeutonJon78@reddit

And if anything, eggs costing more is still because of H5N1, which we don't have sort of handle on because the Orange One killed the pandemic preparedness team.

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