Moving from US to Canada advice

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Mike__O@reddit

It will be far cheaper and easier to realize that you're a victim of propaganda and lies than uprooting your entire life and moving to a different country.

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gromm93@reddit

Nah bro. I don't think you know what it's like to be obviously lesbian in rural America, and she's already been through this once. Also... I suppose you believe that Project 2025 is propaganda?

I'll echo the others that have said it's better to just move to big city America than it is to emigrate though.

For the time being anyway.

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Bro, I live in rural America. Trust me, nobody gives a shit if you're gay, minority, or whatever. No matter who or what you are, so long as you mind your own business nobody will give you a second look.

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gromm93@reddit

Uh huh.

Yeah, I'm queer and I grew up in rural Canada.

That's not the way it works. It's the way you think it works, because you fit in, and it doesn't affect you.

If you don't fit in, you're suddenly "not minding your own business". Nevermind that everyone's business is your business whether you like it or not. Everyone knows everyone else's business. There is no real expectation of privacy, and your entire life is the subject of the local rumour mill.

OP knows what it's like more than any of us. I'd go with her judgement on this.

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MarketingLimp8419@reddit

thank you for saying the quiet part out LOUD. People gotta stop drinking the blue juice.

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capt_Obvious2u@reddit

You say don’t make it political but, nations’ borders are rather political.

Moving to Canada to work is a little harder than it is to waltz across the US southern border under the Biden administration.

You might think, “Wow, that’s so racist, how could those darn Canadians be so close minded and bigoted?” But, that’s just how they roll, so you’ll need to consult a flight school in Canada, an attorney and I would advise you reach out to your Canadian family or friends that you’ll be living with or those that will be helping you get settled in.

Best of luck! I’m not gonna lie, I’m a die-hard patriotic American, military veteran, Conservative, (let’s see how else can I piss off the entire Reddit universe today…?) oh yeah Christian, White, Male but I’m still tempted to move to Alberta. The Canadian Rockies are absolutely stunning!

Have fun, but if it doesn’t work out keep your gay self right here, we still love you!

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officiallygow@reddit

Licence transferability is a distant second worry in immigration, as you would not have the legal right to work in Canada. You would have to consult a professional to set you up on a path to permanent residency w/ the privilege to work, which is a long, expensive process especially if coming here without any previously obtained skills or education, if you don’t have those. I would recommend moving to a large city in any liberal state and enjoy debatably equal freedoms and inclusivity to Canada, 2-3x more money as a low-mid time pilot (any time pilot, for that matter - pilot pay in Canada is an absolute joke) all at a fraction of the living expense. It is hard to stay afloat right now as a low-time pilot in a Canadian city.

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officiallygow@reddit

Go somewhere in the states that’s big, blue, and north. Canadian-istic politics and views with pilot pay 2-3x (or more) higher than what we have up here. Being an inexperienced pilot in Canada right now with the cost of living is absolutely awful, especially in any big city - not to mention how tight the market is for low-time jobs is currently (with instructing, predictably, paying peanuts). Outside of those centres, low time work is scattered around, but rural Canada would be no less non-inclusive to you than any rural spot in the USA.

Additionally, the transferability of license isn’t the issue, it’s the right to work. I see in another comment that you may be considering coming as a student. Recent reforms due to rather high numbers of student visas issued in the past have made it very, very hard for a student to earn any meaningful amount of money to support their education, and immigrating on a non-student visa would be risking possible months to years before the right to work anywhere, let alone in aviation, is earned. I do not want to discredit your feelings due to the recent political happenings, but I really cannot in good faith recommend moving here right now, especially at your stage. PNW is calling, I’d move somewhere like that in an instant if I could visa it out, as a Canuck looking for a medium-low-time job and enough money to survive. :-)

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Ludicrous_speed77@reddit

Can you just move to somewhere more liberal in the US instead?

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MarketingLimp8419@reddit

Do you have a way to live and work in Canada? It can’t be terribly difficult to get a canadian green card but there’s probably still a process.

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Unlikely-Builder-244@reddit (OP)

My partner is a Canadian citizen but my tentative thought is my US 141 through a university has a couple international students and I'd hopefully find an equivalent that can do a student visa situation. I know theres logistics re savings & such for student visas which we have pretty figured out. Before opting for aviation I was looking into masters degree programs there so I'm not unfamiliar with the process.

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MarketingLimp8419@reddit

Is it really worth the hassle of moving to a socialist country like Canada and uprooting your entire life just because CNN said Trump is a “danger to democracy”? The salaries are also ass. CFIs make 30k at most. The cost of living is 10x worse than the U.S. unless you plan on moving to the Yukon where the population is 3 and the temperature never goes above 70 degrees.

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dromzugg@reddit

If you have a license you can convert it. There are a few hoops to jump through and probably some bills to pay. Transport Canada has a document on their website with the steps and it's pretty easy to look up.

The bigger issue you would face is actually immigrating. You need a right to work, and our immigration has slowed down recently. Also Canadian pilots get paid way less than the US.

My advice would be to find a more liberal state/city in the US and live and study there. At a minimum that should be you some time to see what is happening on a national level. Hopefully enough time to finish your license and get some time and money under your belt. As with most things in life immigration is so much easier with a good resume and money to throw at the problem.

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cjonesaf@reddit

Politics aside, you are torpedoing any aviation career if you do that. If you want to fly for a living, your long term prospects are an order of magnitude better in the US.

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edmistonjohnathan@reddit

Your fine. Don’t move. America is better in almost every measure.

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KCPilot17@reddit

Do you have the right to work there? That's the biggest thing that doesn't transfer.

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Footefellow@reddit

Hey, I was looking into getting my licenses converted to the Canadian equivalent a couple of years ago, Commercial and instrument. It’s a lot of hoops to jump through but honestly you’re probably better off moving and then going through their training program if this is something you’re serious about. I don’t have the time at the moment, but if you’d like you can send me a DM and point you to some resources to navigate the process. Here’s hoping this stays civil and productive.

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canadianbroncos@reddit

If you are planning to do this as a career, just move to a Liberal city...Canada isn't some magic utopia and we have our fair share of biggots.

Also our salary are like 3x less than the US.

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wtonb@reddit

just moving to any of the top 15 most populous cities would give you canadian politics without any of the hassle

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JETDRIVR@reddit

Have you spoken to an immigration attorney? Moving to Canada requires that you either have a visa to enroll into school or permanent resident status if you wish to stay longer than 6 months.

I don’t think you can just move to Canada and live here legally full time. Permanently with medical care otherwise.

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Yesthisisme50@reddit

They aren’t the same license. You’d have to do training in the US to get a US license past PPL.

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rFlyingTower@reddit

This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:

First of all, please don't make this political or argue that I don't need to leave. I'm a gay woman in rural America, and I should for personal and medical reasons. I have the resources to do so, but I'm kinda overwhelmed regarding what to do aviation wise and that will heavily influence my moving time-line. I'm first semester at a Part 141, I'll have my private by the end of the year and can start instrument in January. My end goal is commercial but I love teaching and think I'd enjoy being a CFI for a while & getting hours that way.

Has anyone moved from the US to Canada during their training? Any tips on navigating the logistics of this? Is anything transferable? I am committed to this career path but I'm not so far in money-wise that I have to stay within the US (hopefully). I guess I could stick it out for a while and try and figure out commuting internationally just work out of a US hub (I've seen people mention they do it online but haven't looked into it much). I'm theoretically open to the UK or Ireland as well but we don't have any connections there so the move would be much harder. I moved internationally in highschool but don't want to live/ work there, so I'm aware of how much work this will be but I don't feel comfortable in the investment of setting down more roots here.

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