Right, which should have never happened. But he never proposed a federal “assault weapons” ban. Even after being shot I forget what interview it was but he said his view on banning them has not changed.
Agreed. While republicans are more pro gun than democrats Trump isn’t the messiah for gun ownership that people are claiming. If he didn’t need the votes I’m positive he wouldn’t like us peasants owning guns.
At the same time, hoplophobic pols are doubling down on their unconstitutional tantrums exactly like their forbears did when they refused to follow Brown v Board of Education. That behavior is unacceptable. It's now worse than ever in states ruled by those pols.
Oh right, everyone who disagrees with you must be getting paid to because you are such a genius who has the right answer to everything. That's why you're trolling people on Reddit.
That's a bad faith argument. It's like saying "Thank god Mussolini is in charge and not Hitler!" Just because Harris would have been bad for the 2A doesn't mean that Trump is magically better. He has a clear history of stepping all over the 2A. His win yesterday didn't change any of that.
No, it isnt bad faith. There is one party advocating to ban guns and it isn't the republicans. they may be ambivalent but they arent banning shit. He did temporarily ban bump-stocks, but that got overturned. thats it. if it was harris/waltz, time to get the AR neutered.
"I like to take the guns early...Take the guns first, go through due process second...or, Mike [the interviewer], take the firearms first, and then go to court.” That is a direct quote by then President Donald Trump. You are missing the forest for the trees. You're support for Trump, or maybe just your hatred of the Democrats is making you hand wave the fact that Trump is 1000% not a friend of the 2A. This isn't an issue of opinion, he has been very clear on his position. I don't understand why people like yourself refuse to acknowledge this. It's ok to not support everything a candidate does and you're not helping yourself or anyone else by actively lying to yourself about it.
WTF are you talking about lol? No one here suggested Harris would have been better for the 2A. The fact that that's what you took from all this tells me more about you're extreme lack of reading comprehension skills and it explains why you're so fanatically supportive of the most delusional person to ever hold the office of President.
So that is your actual belief though, that a Harris presidency would have been better. Only people who are trying to justify that belief would constantly black pill about Trump and guns, which is why you are getting these responses.
Ok, so we have to lie and pretend we're not fucked anyway? Real helpful. Better to prepare for the work ahead to protect our rights than to suck down all your "but but but the other guy" copium.
I like your idea that we should prepare no matter who Republican or Democrat. Deep inside I dont trust the government although I am a heavily supporter of the Republican party. But seriously anything was better then Harris being elected. She legit wanted to ban Assault weapons and stop the export even telling Biden she doesn't care about the constitution she will "do it anyway"
The 2022 "Bruen" SCOTUS decision took formerly "may-issue" commie states who only issued concealed carry permits to their politically privileged and forced them to become "shall-issue", making any citizen eligible to apply for a concealed carry permit. I was able to get concealed carry in my commie state thanks to this.
In 2025 it is highly likely that SCOTUS will hear an "assault weapons ban" case from Illinois, which if decided to be unconstitutional could result in an "assault weapons ban ban" which would shelter us from any state or nationwide ban essentially permanently. These decisions would not happen if not for the justices Trump appointed.
What matters is the SCOTUS justices he nominates who will strike down all the infringements as unconstitutional. Permanent assault weapons ban ban next, courtesy of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices.
That is not the point. Neither of both are good for 2A, even if getting Trump now will unfuck some of the damage Biden did, which was a lot AND also deal less than Harris would have. Yeah, Trump is better than Harris. But that isn't good enough.
Trump’s guard rail on 2A in his first term was the NRA… this time around I’m hoping JD Vance and now perhaps Ron Paul will push things further right on guns.
Bro how many posts are you going to comment stupid shit on? I hear the local store is having a run on crayons and coloring books for safe spaces, better go get yours before they run out.
You really need to grow up a bit, kid. When you finally do, you'll realize there's more to life than trying to be cool to internet strangers by talking shit and showing off your closet queen.
I can't imagine being such a sore winner. You get someone going to appoint a shit ton more federal and likely more supreme justices and you hwt butthurt over an offhand comment and banning a plastic stock that his own justices removed.
If he wanted your guns you'd have lost them. Reality is he put in a bunch of pro 2a judges. 3 conservatives on scotus. Will be replacing more on scotus and putting in more federal judges. Also bringing in Ron Paul will help. Stay positive my dudes.
But say goodbye to unions, workers rights, women's rights, all gay and trans rights, free and essential services from the government, social security, Medicare, no fault divorce, immigration, affordable housing, and so on.
Oh and on top of it, Trump is gonna lead the world further into a burning abyss of oil because "renewables bad."
InfectedBananas@reddit
This was posted in 2016 too, trump banned bump stocks after that.
00101011@reddit
Amen brother, Trump isn’t a 2A advocate… both sure why people think we’re suddenly safe now.
edwardsc0101@reddit
Right, which should have never happened. But he never proposed a federal “assault weapons” ban. Even after being shot I forget what interview it was but he said his view on banning them has not changed.
InfectedBananas@reddit
"It's ok, he only cut off my hand instead of my whole arm"
natteulven@reddit
Trump is not pro 2A. I don't know why everyone thinks he is.
MONSTERBEARMAN@reddit
Not in Wa. State.
count_nuggula@reddit
Not so fast
Gooble211@reddit
We still have a long way to go.
walmarttshirt@reddit
Agreed. While republicans are more pro gun than democrats Trump isn’t the messiah for gun ownership that people are claiming. If he didn’t need the votes I’m positive he wouldn’t like us peasants owning guns.
roostersnuffed@reddit
While undeniably true, it's pretty amazing how far we have come post 1934/86/94.
Hell I grew up in a time that I couldn't buy a 20rd anything and carrying in most states was restrictive.
Now over 29 states have constitutional carry and I can buy an AR for $400, load it and keep it accessible in my passenger seat.
There's more to do but we are at the best point for gun rights since 1934.
Comfortable-Ad1517@reddit
That’s a very positive look at how far we’ve come. Thank you
Gooble211@reddit
At the same time, hoplophobic pols are doubling down on their unconstitutional tantrums exactly like their forbears did when they refused to follow Brown v Board of Education. That behavior is unacceptable. It's now worse than ever in states ruled by those pols.
Temporary_Fee_3355@reddit
yep sums up america for 4 years
BlindMan404@reddit
As if "take the guns first" Trump gives a fuck about our 2A rights.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
Gives a lot more of a fuck than Harris. His judges give a lot more of a fuck than the dem ones.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
You can’t reason with people here. This sub should be changed to r/liberalgunwoners squared, it’s pathetic.
SpectreJerm@reddit
Yeah it fuckin is.
United-Advertising67@reddit
Election's over, you're not getting paid to post here anymore.
BlindMan404@reddit
Oh right, everyone who disagrees with you must be getting paid to because you are such a genius who has the right answer to everything. That's why you're trolling people on Reddit.
Biomas@reddit
bro. as if awb supporting harris/waltz would be better for gun rights. gtfo
DangerHawk@reddit
That's a bad faith argument. It's like saying "Thank god Mussolini is in charge and not Hitler!" Just because Harris would have been bad for the 2A doesn't mean that Trump is magically better. He has a clear history of stepping all over the 2A. His win yesterday didn't change any of that.
Biomas@reddit
No, it isnt bad faith. There is one party advocating to ban guns and it isn't the republicans. they may be ambivalent but they arent banning shit. He did temporarily ban bump-stocks, but that got overturned. thats it. if it was harris/waltz, time to get the AR neutered.
DangerHawk@reddit
"I like to take the guns early...Take the guns first, go through due process second...or, Mike [the interviewer], take the firearms first, and then go to court.” That is a direct quote by then President Donald Trump. You are missing the forest for the trees. You're support for Trump, or maybe just your hatred of the Democrats is making you hand wave the fact that Trump is 1000% not a friend of the 2A. This isn't an issue of opinion, he has been very clear on his position. I don't understand why people like yourself refuse to acknowledge this. It's ok to not support everything a candidate does and you're not helping yourself or anyone else by actively lying to yourself about it.
Biomas@reddit
Words are wind. I'm not missing shit, this is a stupid talking point. Again, thinking Harris would have been any better for the 2a is delusional.
DangerHawk@reddit
WTF are you talking about lol? No one here suggested Harris would have been better for the 2A. The fact that that's what you took from all this tells me more about you're extreme lack of reading comprehension skills and it explains why you're so fanatically supportive of the most delusional person to ever hold the office of President.
WhiskeyShade@reddit
So that is your actual belief though, that a Harris presidency would have been better. Only people who are trying to justify that belief would constantly black pill about Trump and guns, which is why you are getting these responses.
BlindMan404@reddit
Ok, so we have to lie and pretend we're not fucked anyway? Real helpful. Better to prepare for the work ahead to protect our rights than to suck down all your "but but but the other guy" copium.
CokeBoiii@reddit
I like your idea that we should prepare no matter who Republican or Democrat. Deep inside I dont trust the government although I am a heavily supporter of the Republican party. But seriously anything was better then Harris being elected. She legit wanted to ban Assault weapons and stop the export even telling Biden she doesn't care about the constitution she will "do it anyway"
thebucketmouse@reddit
2A freedoms have demonstrably expanded thanks to Trump, no idea where you're coming from
BlindMan404@reddit
How?
thebucketmouse@reddit
The 2022 "Bruen" SCOTUS decision took formerly "may-issue" commie states who only issued concealed carry permits to their politically privileged and forced them to become "shall-issue", making any citizen eligible to apply for a concealed carry permit. I was able to get concealed carry in my commie state thanks to this.
In 2025 it is highly likely that SCOTUS will hear an "assault weapons ban" case from Illinois, which if decided to be unconstitutional could result in an "assault weapons ban ban" which would shelter us from any state or nationwide ban essentially permanently. These decisions would not happen if not for the justices Trump appointed.
kazz9201@reddit (OP)
Trump may not “give a fuck about the 2A” but the SCOTUS justices he installed do. They are ruling in the favor of 2A supporters.
thebucketmouse@reddit
What matters is the SCOTUS justices he nominates who will strike down all the infringements as unconstitutional. Permanent assault weapons ban ban next, courtesy of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
I was just about to say the same thing.
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
Thank God Harris lost.
cenciazealot@reddit
Indeed, and gold help us that Trump won. A shame that such a "victory" is celebrated. The lesser of 2 evils to 2A.
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
How many assault weapons bans were passed under trump vs Biden?
cenciazealot@reddit
That is not the point. Neither of both are good for 2A, even if getting Trump now will unfuck some of the damage Biden did, which was a lot AND also deal less than Harris would have. Yeah, Trump is better than Harris. But that isn't good enough.
Happy_Garand@reddit
He's a pretty big net positive, having put some good judges on the SCOTUS. He's a massive step in the right direction
WhiskeyShade@reddit
Trump’s guard rail on 2A in his first term was the NRA… this time around I’m hoping JD Vance and now perhaps Ron Paul will push things further right on guns.
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
Dude. It’s a step in the right direction. We’ve been getting fucked for DECADES.
ThatBeardedHistorian@reddit
Lol. We'll see.
mobilshooter@reddit
Your never safe. For the price of freedom is eternal vigilants.
BlueOceanBoii@reddit
Trump has been a lot more vocal for 2A this time around
heroinebob90@reddit
Hahahaha
Devils_Advocate-69@reddit
Your wife went out on a “girls night”
CorneliusofCaesarea@reddit
I went fishing at the same spot I had my earlier boating accident and you would not believe the catch I pulled in.
NPC_no_name_@reddit
I lost em all in a boating acadent.
Give up nothing
----JZ----@reddit
When your social security and health care are taken away, hopefully your little buddy there can save your ass.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
Bro how many posts are you going to comment stupid shit on? I hear the local store is having a run on crayons and coloring books for safe spaces, better go get yours before they run out.
----JZ----@reddit
You really need to grow up a bit, kid. When you finally do, you'll realize there's more to life than trying to be cool to internet strangers by talking shit and showing off your closet queen.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
He banned bump stocks and was also taking about banning suppressors a few years ago. He hates guns, just hams it up for the camera.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
Hm funny, it appears bump stocks are legal so…
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
Not by his doing.
mondaymoderate@reddit
Especially after somebody shot at him. You know he’s just itching to stop that from ever happening again.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
He won’t care about losing the base now.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
I can't imagine being such a sore winner. You get someone going to appoint a shit ton more federal and likely more supreme justices and you hwt butthurt over an offhand comment and banning a plastic stock that his own justices removed.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
I’ve never lived in a swing state, so I only vote for senators and local politicians.
toxic_adventure@reddit
If he wanted your guns you'd have lost them. Reality is he put in a bunch of pro 2a judges. 3 conservatives on scotus. Will be replacing more on scotus and putting in more federal judges. Also bringing in Ron Paul will help. Stay positive my dudes.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
They need Ron Paul.to audit the fed
toxic_adventure@reddit
All it takes is for Ron Paul to be in trumps ear and we're gonna see big moves.
Footlockerstash@reddit
You just have to pull it out from under the bed.
I gotta go magnet fishing. Again.
NPLMACTUAL@reddit
Its all propaganda
gun_is_neat@reddit
Yeah sure
But say goodbye to unions, workers rights, women's rights, all gay and trans rights, free and essential services from the government, social security, Medicare, no fault divorce, immigration, affordable housing, and so on.
Oh and on top of it, Trump is gonna lead the world further into a burning abyss of oil because "renewables bad."
Pepe__Le__PewPew@reddit
JBs ISP goons will still kick in your door, cuff your kids and kill your dog.
Gabethebig_G@reddit
Rest in peace Sammy, he managed to throw some vermin in hell at least
AspiringArchmage@reddit
It's safe trump won't ban gold guns
Aggressive_Local8921@reddit
Sadams AK47 is safe