At the same time, hoplophobic pols are doubling down on their unconstitutional tantrums exactly like their forbears did when they refused to follow Brown v Board of Education. That behavior is unacceptable. It's now worse than ever in states ruled by those pols.
Yeah but that's a constant that will never go away. Guns will always be a hot button issue and we will always have to fight for it.
The difference now is that those people don't have the power, theyre on defense where as were finally in a positionof offense. I'm not holding my breath as the current party doesn't actually care about gun rights, but many of his supporters do. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.
Surely the extremely vain and fickle pants shitting despot who was almost assassinated by private individuals with firearms is going to expand firearm rights for individuals.
Agreed. While republicans are more pro gun than democrats Trump isn’t the messiah for gun ownership that people are claiming. If he didn’t need the votes I’m positive he wouldn’t like us peasants owning guns.
He also said “I’ll take the guns first and worry about due process later.”
He said he was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it.
He also said he wants to remove taxes from overtime hours.
He also said he doesn’t like paying overtime.
I would like to believe he would take the taxes from overtime but that won’t happen.
Nothing major will change during the next 4 years. It’s all blustering. Obama was the most anti gun president in the last 50 years (according to my father in law) and I know zero people who lost their guns. Trump banned bump stocks.
I don’t care who’s in power they want to benefit themselves not the people. We need politicians that follow the constitution not manipulate it for their own benefit.
I would say I’m conservative without being a Trump fan. I don’t like that anyone I tell that too I get called a democrat. I don’t like Trump. I think people believe every word he says unless it makes him look bad then they say “well what he meant was….”
I don’t trust him. I don’t trust anyone that goes into politics. Even if they go in with good intentions they get corrupted and don’t actually change anything to a large degree.
Agreed. Questioning the decision making and motives of anyone in power should be the most important part of a democracy. Being called a liberal because we DARE to question Trump is fucking pathetic.
I haven't seen anyone claim trump as the messiah for gun ownership, most of the time people refer to him as our best option out of the 2 (two) options presented, and not even a bad one at that (with regards to gun rights specifically).
That is not the point. Neither of both are good for 2A, even if getting Trump now will unfuck some of the damage Biden did, which was a lot AND also deal less than Harris would have. Yeah, Trump is better than Harris. But that isn't good enough.
For once, yes. But I don't see this as a catalyst for subsequent betterment after him. Would the dems or other reps see this as 2A friendly policies being a good way to get voters? Hopefully yes.
Trump’s guard rail on 2A in his first term was the NRA… this time around I’m hoping JD Vance and now perhaps Ron Paul will push things further right on guns.
Right, which should have never happened. But he never proposed a federal “assault weapons” ban. Even after being shot I forget what interview it was but he said his view on banning them has not changed.
That's a bad faith argument. It's like saying "Thank god Mussolini is in charge and not Hitler!" Just because Harris would have been bad for the 2A doesn't mean that Trump is magically better. He has a clear history of stepping all over the 2A. His win yesterday didn't change any of that.
No, it isnt bad faith. There is one party advocating to ban guns and it isn't the republicans. they may be ambivalent but they arent banning shit. He did temporarily ban bump-stocks, but that got overturned. thats it. if it was harris/waltz, time to get the AR neutered.
"I like to take the guns early...Take the guns first, go through due process second...or, Mike [the interviewer], take the firearms first, and then go to court.” That is a direct quote by then President Donald Trump. You are missing the forest for the trees. You're support for Trump, or maybe just your hatred of the Democrats is making you hand wave the fact that Trump is 1000% not a friend of the 2A. This isn't an issue of opinion, he has been very clear on his position. I don't understand why people like yourself refuse to acknowledge this. It's ok to not support everything a candidate does and you're not helping yourself or anyone else by actively lying to yourself about it.
WTF are you talking about lol? No one here suggested Harris would have been better for the 2A. The fact that that's what you took from all this tells me more about you're extreme lack of reading comprehension skills and it explains why you're so fanatically supportive of the most delusional person to ever hold the office of President.
Reading comprehension isn’t their strong suit. Maybe a video, but their unwillingness to even acknowledge his flaws, make all discussions impossible.
Like you said, she’d be worse for 2A. But to say Trump would bring about the golden age for firearms is delusional.
So that is your actual belief though, that a Harris presidency would have been better. Only people who are trying to justify that belief would constantly black pill about Trump and guns, which is why you are getting these responses.
Ok, so we have to lie and pretend we're not fucked anyway? Real helpful. Better to prepare for the work ahead to protect our rights than to suck down all your "but but but the other guy" copium.
I like your idea that we should prepare no matter who Republican or Democrat. Deep inside I dont trust the government although I am a heavily supporter of the Republican party. But seriously anything was better then Harris being elected. She legit wanted to ban Assault weapons and stop the export even telling Biden she doesn't care about the constitution she will "do it anyway"
The 2022 "Bruen" SCOTUS decision took formerly "may-issue" commie states who only issued concealed carry permits to their politically privileged and forced them to become "shall-issue", making any citizen eligible to apply for a concealed carry permit. I was able to get concealed carry in my commie state thanks to this.
In 2025 it is highly likely that SCOTUS will hear an "assault weapons ban" case from Illinois, which if decided to be unconstitutional could result in an "assault weapons ban ban" which would shelter us from any state or nationwide ban essentially permanently. These decisions would not happen if not for the justices Trump appointed.
His VP pick also gives every fuck possible about the 2A. Looking at his voting record in the senate, it looks like getting rid of infringements is his whole schtick. Vance is our guy.
Oh right, everyone who disagrees with you must be getting paid to because you are such a genius who has the right answer to everything. That's why you're trolling people on Reddit.
What matters is the SCOTUS justices he nominates who will strike down all the infringements as unconstitutional. Permanent assault weapons ban ban next, courtesy of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices.
I'm not safe. Trump has spent about 40 million dollars on ads targeted at harassing me. I will never be safe under a republican government. It would do you good to learn what the person you elected is trying to do to minorities.
We can breathe easier for now. But don't ket your gaurd down. There's still work to do. The Democrat machine will still do its best to continually come after the 2A.
not really
"take the guns and do due process later im in favor of taking the guns first" is a direct infringement stated by a gun grabbing you spent decades bank rolling gun grabbers
NGL I was planning to order like 5-20k rounds if Kamala won + a whole slew of gray area accessories like super safeties, bump stocks, binaries, etc. But, I'll hold off on that for now :)
If he wanted your guns you'd have lost them. Reality is he put in a bunch of pro 2a judges. 3 conservatives on scotus. Will be replacing more on scotus and putting in more federal judges. Also bringing in Ron Paul will help. Stay positive my dudes.
Bro how many posts are you going to comment stupid shit on? I hear the local store is having a run on crayons and coloring books for safe spaces, better go get yours before they run out.
You really need to grow up a bit, kid. When you finally do, you'll realize there's more to life than trying to be cool to internet strangers by talking shit and showing off your closet queen.
I can't imagine being such a sore winner. You get someone going to appoint a shit ton more federal and likely more supreme justices and you hwt butthurt over an offhand comment and banning a plastic stock that his own justices removed.
But say goodbye to unions, workers rights, women's rights, all gay and trans rights, free and essential services from the government, social security, Medicare, no fault divorce, immigration, affordable housing, and so on.
Oh and on top of it, Trump is gonna lead the world further into a burning abyss of oil because "renewables bad."
Gooble211@reddit
We still have a long way to go.
roostersnuffed@reddit
While undeniably true, it's pretty amazing how far we have come post 1934/86/94.
Hell I grew up in a time that I couldn't buy a 20rd anything and carrying in most states was restrictive.
Now over 29 states have constitutional carry and I can buy an AR for $400, load it and keep it accessible in my passenger seat.
There's more to do but we are at the best point for gun rights since 1934.
soooooooup@reddit
This post made me look up how many states have exactly 2 border states. Florida, SC, and Washington.
Hot_Departure9115@reddit
"While crossing either of my state borders"
Now I have to figure out if you live in Washington, Rhode Island, South Carolina or Florida.
Probably not Washington or Rhode Island.
roostersnuffed@reddit
Didn't think I'd get checked by the geography nerds, but you nailed it. SC.
Comfortable-Ad1517@reddit
That’s a very positive look at how far we’ve come. Thank you
Jaggerdadog@reddit
Not in Washington.
Comfortable-Ad1517@reddit
That sucks sorry. I never will understand why people think that criminal will follow the gun laws 😂
ZarekTheInsane@reddit
Cause the junk they put in the water and Starbucks up here.
JaakoNikolai@reddit
I was going to say that too, it's quite the opposite here
Gooble211@reddit
At the same time, hoplophobic pols are doubling down on their unconstitutional tantrums exactly like their forbears did when they refused to follow Brown v Board of Education. That behavior is unacceptable. It's now worse than ever in states ruled by those pols.
roostersnuffed@reddit
Yeah but that's a constant that will never go away. Guns will always be a hot button issue and we will always have to fight for it.
The difference now is that those people don't have the power, theyre on defense where as were finally in a positionof offense. I'm not holding my breath as the current party doesn't actually care about gun rights, but many of his supporters do. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.
Gooble211@reddit
Of course it won't go away. We were warned 250 years ago about the need to constantly guard against shit like this.
smokeyser@reddit
Unless you want something automatic or suppressed. And then it's better than a year ago but far worse than it was 100 years ago.
roostersnuffed@reddit
I said almost 100 years ago, referring to post 1934. But sure, specifically 90 years.
austin0ickle@reddit
Right, because the selection of automatic and suppressed choices where so plentiful in 1924
smokeyser@reddit
Not sure about suppressors, but there were quite a few automatics. The tommy gun was released around that time.
Predditor_drone@reddit
Surely the extremely vain and fickle pants shitting despot who was almost assassinated by private individuals with firearms is going to expand firearm rights for individuals.
Gooble211@reddit
We advanced the ball to where it is now because of his judge appointments. Are you suggesting we'd be any better with Giggles?
walmarttshirt@reddit
Agreed. While republicans are more pro gun than democrats Trump isn’t the messiah for gun ownership that people are claiming. If he didn’t need the votes I’m positive he wouldn’t like us peasants owning guns.
Popular_Score4744@reddit
He proudly stated that he supports GOA (Gun Owners of America) and their fight for gun rights. He did a whole video about it, supporting GOA.
walmarttshirt@reddit
He also said “I’ll take the guns first and worry about due process later.”
He said he was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it.
He also said he wants to remove taxes from overtime hours.
He also said he doesn’t like paying overtime.
I would like to believe he would take the taxes from overtime but that won’t happen.
Nothing major will change during the next 4 years. It’s all blustering. Obama was the most anti gun president in the last 50 years (according to my father in law) and I know zero people who lost their guns. Trump banned bump stocks.
I don’t care who’s in power they want to benefit themselves not the people. We need politicians that follow the constitution not manipulate it for their own benefit.
DogFarm@reddit
Don't forget that he said he will seriously look at banning silencers.
walmarttshirt@reddit
I would say I’m conservative without being a Trump fan. I don’t like that anyone I tell that too I get called a democrat. I don’t like Trump. I think people believe every word he says unless it makes him look bad then they say “well what he meant was….”
I don’t trust him. I don’t trust anyone that goes into politics. Even if they go in with good intentions they get corrupted and don’t actually change anything to a large degree.
DogFarm@reddit
Agreed. Questioning the decision making and motives of anyone in power should be the most important part of a democracy. Being called a liberal because we DARE to question Trump is fucking pathetic.
RandomAmerican81@reddit
I haven't seen anyone claim trump as the messiah for gun ownership, most of the time people refer to him as our best option out of the 2 (two) options presented, and not even a bad one at that (with regards to gun rights specifically).
Temporary_Fee_3355@reddit
yep sums up america for 4 years
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
Thank God Harris lost.
cenciazealot@reddit
Indeed, and gold help us that Trump won. A shame that such a "victory" is celebrated. The lesser of 2 evils to 2A.
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
How many assault weapons bans were passed under trump vs Biden?
cenciazealot@reddit
That is not the point. Neither of both are good for 2A, even if getting Trump now will unfuck some of the damage Biden did, which was a lot AND also deal less than Harris would have. Yeah, Trump is better than Harris. But that isn't good enough.
Happy_Garand@reddit
He's a pretty big net positive, having put some good judges on the SCOTUS. He's a massive step in the right direction
cenciazealot@reddit
For once, yes. But I don't see this as a catalyst for subsequent betterment after him. Would the dems or other reps see this as 2A friendly policies being a good way to get voters? Hopefully yes.
WhiskeyShade@reddit
Trump’s guard rail on 2A in his first term was the NRA… this time around I’m hoping JD Vance and now perhaps Ron Paul will push things further right on guns.
Notafitnessexpert123@reddit
Dude. It’s a step in the right direction. We’ve been getting fucked for DECADES.
natteulven@reddit
Trump is not pro 2A. I don't know why everyone thinks he is.
kibsnjif935@reddit
The boot can be swallowed deeply.
InfectedBananas@reddit
This was posted in 2016 too, trump banned bump stocks after that.
kibsnjif935@reddit
For those interested in the video.
edwardsc0101@reddit
Right, which should have never happened. But he never proposed a federal “assault weapons” ban. Even after being shot I forget what interview it was but he said his view on banning them has not changed.
InfectedBananas@reddit
"It's ok, he only cut off my hand instead of my whole arm"
AspiringArchmage@reddit
Plastic stock banned then unbanned by his judges vs most modern rifles banned, most magazines banned.
00101011@reddit
Amen brother, Trump isn’t a 2A advocate… both sure why people think we’re suddenly safe now.
BlindMan404@reddit
As if "take the guns first" Trump gives a fuck about our 2A rights.
Biomas@reddit
bro. as if awb supporting harris/waltz would be better for gun rights. gtfo
DangerHawk@reddit
That's a bad faith argument. It's like saying "Thank god Mussolini is in charge and not Hitler!" Just because Harris would have been bad for the 2A doesn't mean that Trump is magically better. He has a clear history of stepping all over the 2A. His win yesterday didn't change any of that.
Biomas@reddit
No, it isnt bad faith. There is one party advocating to ban guns and it isn't the republicans. they may be ambivalent but they arent banning shit. He did temporarily ban bump-stocks, but that got overturned. thats it. if it was harris/waltz, time to get the AR neutered.
DangerHawk@reddit
"I like to take the guns early...Take the guns first, go through due process second...or, Mike [the interviewer], take the firearms first, and then go to court.” That is a direct quote by then President Donald Trump. You are missing the forest for the trees. You're support for Trump, or maybe just your hatred of the Democrats is making you hand wave the fact that Trump is 1000% not a friend of the 2A. This isn't an issue of opinion, he has been very clear on his position. I don't understand why people like yourself refuse to acknowledge this. It's ok to not support everything a candidate does and you're not helping yourself or anyone else by actively lying to yourself about it.
Biomas@reddit
Words are wind. I'm not missing shit, this is a stupid talking point. Again, thinking Harris would have been any better for the 2a is delusional.
DangerHawk@reddit
WTF are you talking about lol? No one here suggested Harris would have been better for the 2A. The fact that that's what you took from all this tells me more about you're extreme lack of reading comprehension skills and it explains why you're so fanatically supportive of the most delusional person to ever hold the office of President.
kibsnjif935@reddit
Reading comprehension isn’t their strong suit. Maybe a video, but their unwillingness to even acknowledge his flaws, make all discussions impossible. Like you said, she’d be worse for 2A. But to say Trump would bring about the golden age for firearms is delusional.
WhiskeyShade@reddit
So that is your actual belief though, that a Harris presidency would have been better. Only people who are trying to justify that belief would constantly black pill about Trump and guns, which is why you are getting these responses.
BlindMan404@reddit
Ok, so we have to lie and pretend we're not fucked anyway? Real helpful. Better to prepare for the work ahead to protect our rights than to suck down all your "but but but the other guy" copium.
CokeBoiii@reddit
I like your idea that we should prepare no matter who Republican or Democrat. Deep inside I dont trust the government although I am a heavily supporter of the Republican party. But seriously anything was better then Harris being elected. She legit wanted to ban Assault weapons and stop the export even telling Biden she doesn't care about the constitution she will "do it anyway"
SniffYoSocks907@reddit
Exactly.
Biden: “You can’t ban weapons through an executive order. You need to go through congress”
Kamala’s reply: “how about we say ‘yes, we can’”
thebucketmouse@reddit
2A freedoms have demonstrably expanded thanks to Trump, no idea where you're coming from
BlindMan404@reddit
How?
thebucketmouse@reddit
The 2022 "Bruen" SCOTUS decision took formerly "may-issue" commie states who only issued concealed carry permits to their politically privileged and forced them to become "shall-issue", making any citizen eligible to apply for a concealed carry permit. I was able to get concealed carry in my commie state thanks to this.
In 2025 it is highly likely that SCOTUS will hear an "assault weapons ban" case from Illinois, which if decided to be unconstitutional could result in an "assault weapons ban ban" which would shelter us from any state or nationwide ban essentially permanently. These decisions would not happen if not for the justices Trump appointed.
kazz9201@reddit (OP)
Trump may not “give a fuck about the 2A” but the SCOTUS justices he installed do. They are ruling in the favor of 2A supporters.
MisterKillam@reddit
His VP pick also gives every fuck possible about the 2A. Looking at his voting record in the senate, it looks like getting rid of infringements is his whole schtick. Vance is our guy.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
Gives a lot more of a fuck than Harris. His judges give a lot more of a fuck than the dem ones.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
You can’t reason with people here. This sub should be changed to r/liberalgunwoners squared, it’s pathetic.
SpectreJerm@reddit
Yeah it fuckin is.
United-Advertising67@reddit
Election's over, you're not getting paid to post here anymore.
BlindMan404@reddit
Oh right, everyone who disagrees with you must be getting paid to because you are such a genius who has the right answer to everything. That's why you're trolling people on Reddit.
thebucketmouse@reddit
What matters is the SCOTUS justices he nominates who will strike down all the infringements as unconstitutional. Permanent assault weapons ban ban next, courtesy of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
I was just about to say the same thing.
OFFOregunian@reddit
"When you think it's time to bury them you might just want to put them to work." - Founding Fathers probably
PewPewPony321@reddit
ah shit, i didnt' think of under the bed
*straps on scuba gear
Habrecht@reddit
JD Vance is going to do a lot for us firearm owners.
Electrical-Fortune7@reddit
haha
vbitchscript@reddit
I'm not safe. Trump has spent about 40 million dollars on ads targeted at harassing me. I will never be safe under a republican government. It would do you good to learn what the person you elected is trying to do to minorities.
Dark-ScorpionX@reddit
We can breathe easier for now. But don't ket your gaurd down. There's still work to do. The Democrat machine will still do its best to continually come after the 2A.
God Bless America!
ImJoogle@reddit
not really "take the guns and do due process later im in favor of taking the guns first" is a direct infringement stated by a gun grabbing you spent decades bank rolling gun grabbers
AspiringArchmage@reddit
It's safe trump won't ban gold guns
EsotericAbstractIdea@reddit
Pyrrhic victory for plebeianAR
Aggressive_Local8921@reddit
Sadams AK47 is safe
masterbanana12@reddit
NGL I was planning to order like 5-20k rounds if Kamala won + a whole slew of gray area accessories like super safeties, bump stocks, binaries, etc. But, I'll hold off on that for now :)
Happy_Ad_4574@reddit
😂
bluehairedwomanlover@reddit
shh shh don't be scared its okay
Chomps-Lewis@reddit
Not in NY you arent.
toxic_adventure@reddit
If he wanted your guns you'd have lost them. Reality is he put in a bunch of pro 2a judges. 3 conservatives on scotus. Will be replacing more on scotus and putting in more federal judges. Also bringing in Ron Paul will help. Stay positive my dudes.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
They need Ron Paul.to audit the fed
Robot__Engineer@reddit
Him and Elon need to go through the federal government Milei style. ¡Afuera!
toxic_adventure@reddit
All it takes is for Ron Paul to be in trumps ear and we're gonna see big moves.
bulzeye11@reddit
mine got so scared they jumped out of the boat. must have had a pact or something
Oxidized_Shackles@reddit
Why are antigun Harris bots still trying to talk shit? You lost. Completely. Your opinion/propaganda is irrelevant now. I don't understand.
MONSTERBEARMAN@reddit
Not in Wa. State.
count_nuggula@reddit
Not so fast
ThatBeardedHistorian@reddit
Lol. We'll see.
mobilshooter@reddit
Your never safe. For the price of freedom is eternal vigilants.
BlueOceanBoii@reddit
Trump has been a lot more vocal for 2A this time around
heroinebob90@reddit
Hahahaha
Devils_Advocate-69@reddit
Your wife went out on a “girls night”
CorneliusofCaesarea@reddit
I went fishing at the same spot I had my earlier boating accident and you would not believe the catch I pulled in.
NPC_no_name_@reddit
I lost em all in a boating acadent.
Give up nothing
----JZ----@reddit
When your social security and health care are taken away, hopefully your little buddy there can save your ass.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
Bro how many posts are you going to comment stupid shit on? I hear the local store is having a run on crayons and coloring books for safe spaces, better go get yours before they run out.
----JZ----@reddit
You really need to grow up a bit, kid. When you finally do, you'll realize there's more to life than trying to be cool to internet strangers by talking shit and showing off your closet queen.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
He banned bump stocks and was also taking about banning suppressors a few years ago. He hates guns, just hams it up for the camera.
PrestigiousOne8281@reddit
Hm funny, it appears bump stocks are legal so…
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
Not by his doing.
mondaymoderate@reddit
Especially after somebody shot at him. You know he’s just itching to stop that from ever happening again.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
He won’t care about losing the base now.
AspiringArchmage@reddit
I can't imagine being such a sore winner. You get someone going to appoint a shit ton more federal and likely more supreme justices and you hwt butthurt over an offhand comment and banning a plastic stock that his own justices removed.
Dull_Examination_914@reddit
I’ve never lived in a swing state, so I only vote for senators and local politicians.
Footlockerstash@reddit
You just have to pull it out from under the bed.
I gotta go magnet fishing. Again.
NPLMACTUAL@reddit
Its all propaganda
gun_is_neat@reddit
Yeah sure
But say goodbye to unions, workers rights, women's rights, all gay and trans rights, free and essential services from the government, social security, Medicare, no fault divorce, immigration, affordable housing, and so on.
Oh and on top of it, Trump is gonna lead the world further into a burning abyss of oil because "renewables bad."
Pepe__Le__PewPew@reddit
JBs ISP goons will still kick in your door, cuff your kids and kill your dog.
Gabethebig_G@reddit
Rest in peace Sammy, he managed to throw some vermin in hell at least