ULPT: I was inspired by another post I just saw here. An ex friend of mine is now very MAGA; we live in Texas and she drove out of state to have an abortion about 11 months ago. I have an invoice and a copy of a medical leave of absence note she gave to her employer. How do I effectively report her?

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Laketraut@reddit

It’s reddit and the liberals are having a meltdown.

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These are just shitlib fantasies they're writing out, thankfully. But it really shows what they really think of people when they are mask-off. Way worse than any conservative I've met. Even Malcom X said something to the effect about liberals back in the day.

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Prajecht@reddit

This is what yall voted for isn’t it? Time to eat that cake.

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WebRepresentative697@reddit

Are the trump cultists the ones who say any woman who gets an abortion belongs in jail?

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BlackIntentions92@reddit

You all know this is unethical lifetips right?

Cautious_Extent9324@reddit (OP)

Wait. I can get paid 10k to do this? This is amazing

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AIMRob3@reddit

10k of Daddy trump coin TM, only currency where you can purchase your Daddy trump groceries at 10x the cost

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JST_KRZY@reddit

u/Cautious_Extent9324 …

Doctors and abortion providers, drivers who provide transportation to a clinic, or those who help fund an abortion, for example, could all be liable to incur legal fees if they are sued. People who receive an abortion cannot be sued under the law.

To prevent serious risk to the pregnant person's physical health.

Exactly.

I’m tired of the when they go low we go high mentality. That only works on people who have a moral compass.

Fuck that, I’m taking it straight to hell.

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Please be specific, bot, what about this discourse is madness? And why my comment specifically?

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Don’t worry, it’s not real. Someone’s fantasy.

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randoguynumber5@reddit

Holy good fuck

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datissathrowaway@reddit

Someone replied to this very question here in these very comments fam:

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JST_KRZY@reddit

You can sue anyone directly involved, except for the person that received one, apparently.

Doctors and abortion providers, drivers who provide transportation to a clinic, or those who help fund an abortion, for example, could all be liable to incur legal fees if they are sued. People who receive an abortion cannot be sued under the law.

Somebody that, "illegally" (I say, "Illegally because I'm not exactly sure if this is even actually illegal if she went to a legal state.") went to go get an abortion. They came back and proceeded to tell everyone when they are against abortions? Then not only that, they proceeded to give out copies of their invoices and medical leave of absense notes to someone they presumably know isn't cool with this?

OR option #2

If it's not real why even waste time replying?

A closeted Democrat still wouldn't vote against their own interests.

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jKaz@reddit

Because more pressing interests exist that aren’t based on pure speculation?

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Useless_bum81@reddit

No but they might tell OP they did.
Like a lot of closeted gay men would take about the number of girls they have dated.

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jKaz@reddit

She already reapt when she needed an abortion.. lol wtf is wrong with you people. It seriously disgusts me that people would get to this point.

And For the record: JD said they were leaving the laws to the state, and as far as I know trumps never even mentioned a fed ban.

Folks who don’t live in Texas laughing like this isn’t real.

The answer, OP, is that someone has to sue her/anyone who went with her:

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/11/1107741175/texas-abortion-bounty-law

It is against Texas law, so if you can prove it happened, the plaintiff wins, and you get $10,000.

I’m certain, if you’re serious, you could find some lawyer with an agenda one way or another who would handle the case.

fawlty_lawgic@reddit

that is so weird, why is there an assumption that they must have had help? Is this so they can get away with saying they aren't punishing the ACTUAL woman and play it off like they're not heartless bastards?

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JST_KRZY@reddit

Actually, you can’t sue the pet who received the abortion, according to the law…

Doctors and abortion providers, drivers who provide transportation to a clinic, or those who help fund an abortion, for example, could all be liable to incur legal fees if they are sued. People who receive an abortion cannot be sued under the law.

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Hopper_415@reddit

A quick Google search will make it clear that in 2022, Texas enacted a law that prohibits abortions. Chapter 170A of the Texas Health & Safety Code prohibits abortions. Additionally, anyone who aids or abets an illegal abortion in Texas can be sued for wrongful death.

Not misinformation.

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RusticBucket2@reddit

It’s misinformation that it’s illegal to travel to a different state for an abortion.

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Hopper_415@reddit

Thank you for clarifying. I found this, “The new law, as stated earlier, prevents prosecution or lawsuits directed against people who get abortions. Furthermore, the new laws do not apply to anyone providing or assisting an abortion outside of Texas.”

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Hopper_415@reddit

In Texas, it is legal to sue.

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FerretMouth@reddit

Is it illegal for a Texas resident to get an abortion in another state or country?

No. The new law, as stated earlier, prevents prosecution or lawsuits directed against people who get abortions. Furthermore, the new laws do not apply to anyone providing or assisting an abortion outside of Texas.

https://versustexas.com/texas-abortion-law/

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CrudeAndUnusual@reddit

She did it 11 months ago. If I'm reading that article correctly the new law wasn't in place until May of this year. She could and probably would still get nailed for it.

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nook_dukem@reddit

No. The law went into effect Sept 1 2021.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Heartbeat_Act

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CrudeAndUnusual@reddit

A step in the right direction. I wonder how many womens' blood was on their hands when they made those changes?

And the sad thing is this doesn't help a good segment of women. Texas is MASSIVE and people who need abortions aren't often suburban housewives with a reliable car, money for gas and hotels and food, a job where they can just disappear or can afford to take the time off. This is still a very privileged law that doesn't help many young, scared, poverty-stricken girls or women.

I'm sure that's by sesign.

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nook_dukem@reddit

You are able, under SB8, to sue someone for “aiding/abetting” someone receive an abortion anywhere, even out of state.

Yes, they can go get an abortion.

Yes, they can be sued for doing so.

They failed to make it illegal directly, so instead they enacted:

... an unusual measure designed to ensure the law is enforced: Residents of the state can sue clinics, doctors, nurses and even people who drive a woman to get the procedure, for at least $10,000.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-law-bounty-hunters-citizens/

When did the left get overrun by terrible people, this is the 4th post like this I’ve seen tonight.

Love it or leave it, right? Maybe y'all should try following the law of the country you love so much.

How do you guys say it again? Oh yeah, FUCK YOUR FEELINGS. We're making America great again, get in or go back where you came from.

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wizard_hat_and_staff@reddit

Yall asked for the law now follow it. Isnt trumps whole thing law and order? Welcome to the new America buddy.

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OHPAORGASMR@reddit

Follow the law. Rules for thee and not for me MAGA bastards like their Dear Leader.

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Personal_Shoulder983@reddit

There's no such thing as an ethical abortion.

Except mine, that was different, of course.

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plastic_alloys@reddit

Are u dumb

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Silky_Rat@reddit

Liberals are the nice ones. The “left” are those of us unwilling to be nice to conservative pieces of shit because we know they don’t deserve our kindness

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CaramelHistorical351@reddit

I don't get how me saying "don't send your ex friend to prison, here's an alternative if you want to be an asshole" is worse than actually passing policies that send women to prison for making difficult and personal medical decisions but ok.

Who's the one who set up the abortion bounty system? Who enforces it?

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Letters_to_Dionysus@reddit

this isnt ethical lpt

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corrieoh@reddit

Last night around 3am. Get used to it. You made the bed, now we all get to sleep in it. Buckle up MFr

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Psycho_pigeon007@reddit

Smells like a setup...

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HazyChemist@reddit

| it's not right to twist the knife though when she's already going through such a hard time medically.

TheGoldenPants14363@reddit

Get out of the sub

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Somterink@reddit

Fuck no she hasn't gone through enough. Fuck that scum. Punish her

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doctormink@reddit

I like this way better. I hate the idea of normalizing actual reporting.

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dustyoldbones@reddit

Yeah that’s the whole point.

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Financial_Type_4630@reddit

Trump will make it legal to track pregnant women and if they get abortions! This bad!

Hey, let's report people who get abortions!

What the actual fuck.

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thevvhiterabbit@reddit

America won. The landslide said so. The opposing side was the minority.

Khain232@reddit

All you do is find Trump posts and post an overgeneralized but popular liberal opinion. You're really affecting people here on Reddit 🤣🤣

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this_takes_forever@reddit

You people are seriously mentally unstable, seek help

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Maleficent_Spend_747@reddit

Don't lower yourself to that level. You need to fight for the protections of women, not throw other women under the bus, even the hypocritical ones

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Alternative-Drink354@reddit

party of tolerance and love 🫶🏼🫶🏼

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Nyorliest@reddit

You don’t. That’s not an ULPT, that’s just fucking disgusting.

Rights are absolute

Gooooood gooooood let the hate flow though you!

Beyond pale not really.

The friend got it and now does the middle finger to other women who want the same procedure? Trashy

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charlottethesailor@reddit

I don't think this is illegal. Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

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carinislumpyhead97@reddit

This sub has become an unhinged vent portal for the completely real and awful thoughts of angry and evil people who have been hiding that true self behind a vail of Blue.

If your response to losing an election is to immediately turn around and lash out at another individual because they don’t share the same views as you, you’re an idiot and a bad person.

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Winter_Package6393@reddit

I don’t think reporting this person is right, but they’re not just lashing out because the person voted differently. It’s because they voted for something that they themselves used and didn’t think would effect them

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carinislumpyhead97@reddit

This may be true but, that is still no reason to target them because you’re upset about the results.

They might have voted for Trump for a number of other reasons that she felt were more important. Not everyone’s life completely fits into the mold of one side or the other.

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FuttBucker3K@reddit

You turn yourself into (if you aren’t already) the pettiest bitch alive and ruin someone’s life for some vengeful kicks. You also leverage the exact system you claim to be against in a manner that feeds it.

Stigntoum@reddit

what did she do that was illegal

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sunvisors@reddit

Nothing illegal, but she's a massive hypocrite and she is actively supporting someone who wants to take away women's right to choose what to to with their bodies, when she wants those same rights granted to herself

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Sure_Comfort_7031@reddit

So I, as HR, receive a report of an employee who took a medical leave (properly) and went out of state for a legal medical procedure....?

Yeah I'm going to take your report and throw it in the bin, I wouldn't give less of a shit, as her employer.

Youre piece of shit and dumb as fuck to believe this is a real law.

You can actually bring a civil suit against her but so far they’ve been unsuccessful. You’ll have to figure out how to establish “standing” to prevent the suit from being thrown out preemptively.

https://www.villanovalawreview.com/post/2229-crossing-state-lines-texas-s-abortion-bounty-hunter-law-implicates-those-who-assist-individuals-to-get-an-abortion-out-of-state-including-employers

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I could be wrong though if they changed something recently...

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