German coalition government collapses: Chancellor Scholz fires Finance Minister Lindner
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Icy-Cry340@reddit
Over Ukraine bwahahaha - krauts are so fucking stupid.
Touhokujin@reddit
"Krauts are stupid"
Says the person from the country who just, again, elected a convicted felon rapist fascist. I guess stupid is more common than we'd think.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
We can do this shit because we are the world’s sole superpower.
salzbergwerke@reddit
The Roman Empire also thought they can do this shit.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
You better hope we are right - because if not we will go down swinging and you won’t like who comes after.
Pure-Drawer-2617@reddit
“You won’t like who comes after” we don’t like you NOW
freeman2949583@reddit
Seems like a good reason for the US to get out of NATO.
backspace_cars@reddit
We'll never leave nato, too arrogant to do so. Other countries definately should though if they want to be independent.
ThiccMangoMon@reddit
If the US goes down it goes down with everyone else's backs turned against them..
veerKg_CSS_Geologist@reddit
Got no choice as the US is going down by its own hand.
TheBlack2007@reddit
r/shitamericanssay
backspace_cars@reddit
Should really stop following US foreign policy if you want to be a country any longer.
HardBlaB@reddit
You are the worlds sole superpower... As long as you ignore china.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
They're not quite there yet. But yes, we are on a collision course with them.
HardBlaB@reddit
You've been getting high on your own farts if you think they aren't there yet. They have a massive lead in renewable energy, while the US decides to double down on oil. Once all the oil has been pumped out of the ground, you will be left standing without a proper way to run your industry, while china has wind farms outputting more power than a nuclear power plant.
If you think you are still ahead, you haven't been paying attention.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Lmao wind farms.
HardBlaB@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gansu_Wind_Farm
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Wow I am so scared.
HardBlaB@reddit
You can ignore the facts all you want, doesn't make them less true. We in Europe have been lagging behind for the last two decades, now your decadence and refusal to look into the future has cooked america too. Energy and drinking water are the big topics of the future and the US leans into an energy source that will run out in 50 years and is in the process poisoning its own water.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
We need to be leaning into nuclear more, and that will be happening in the next decade or two. Is the planet going to run out of Uranium in the next 50 years?
HardBlaB@reddit
No its isnt, but nuclear power plants and the enrichment of uranium is a damn lot more expensive than covering a mountainside with PV panels end using the sun, which is free.
Being anti-renewables is the most braindead take of the right and ill never wrap my head around how you got to drink that kool aid and ignore an extremely simple future cost calculation.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Nuclear power plants work when the sun isn't out, and winds are still, simple as.
HardBlaB@reddit
God forbid you cover the base need with a nuclear powerplant and supply the remaining majority with renewables in conbination with energy storage technologies.
Im not anti nuclear, im saying its dumb to ignore a superior alternative based on purely ideological reasons. Peak regressionism.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
and
That's... the same thing.
Logisticman232@reddit
When you’re an economic superpower & you start tariffing everyone you aren’t going to be a superpower for long.
Don’t think y’all realize how important Americas international trade network is to y’all’s prosperity.
Kriztauf@reddit
Americans like this think that the US's world power level is directly related to how big of arrogant assholes they can be.
I hope they enjoy their tariffs and Elon crashing their economy so that him and Thiel can gobble up whatever is left of it
Icy-Cry340@reddit
It’s directly related to how big of a stick we have, and how dickless our vassals are.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Oh we aren’t going to tariff everyone.
Like it or not, we are on a collision war with China and will fight an existential war with them sometime this century. And the economy needs to be nudged into readiness. This is why Biden kept Trump’s tariffs, and even expanded them. At the end of the day, this is not a Trump thing - it’s geopolitical imperatives at work.
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
Icy, normally I appreciate the candid look into realpolitik ft American exceptionalism that you provide but...
No. Trump is not possible because the US is a superpower. He will alienate her from her old allies, ruin her international relation, isolate her from the world and generally fuck over the country's standing.
If you care about America as a superpower, Trump should scare you.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Of course he scares me, I’ve said he is a dangerous loon for a very long time. And worse, an isolationist.
Us being a superpower is why we will survive him.
itcheyness@reddit
Hmmmm...
HalfLeper@reddit
What is this from?
itcheyness@reddit
The Babylon 5 prequel movie In The Beginning.
ShaunDark@reddit
Not for long if you keep doing shit like this.
Restful_Frog@reddit
You don't want to be a super power. All the time you cry about how unfair it is. It partly got Trump elected.
Bloodspinat_mit_Feta@reddit
...Fighting the enemy within...
Icy-Cry340@reddit
No need to overdramatize.
Bloodspinat_mit_Feta@reddit
I see.
Anyway, good luck...
Gigiolo1991@reddit
Krauts are not very bright anyway
shieeet@reddit
Did they edit this out of the article? Can't find it :(
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Nah, I was quoting from another article.
shieeet@reddit
Well, the Politico piece confirms it. Between this, the cucked response to the Nord Stream sabotage, and the subsequent industrial collapse, Germany has truly humiliated itself. But will they stop or will they ask for more?
TheBlack2007@reddit
Subsequent Industrial Collapse? My brother in Christ: NS2 never started operations and NS1 was shut down months before it was blown up. I still remember Scholz giving an interview standing right in front of the same Turbines Putin stated as "currently under maintenance" - asking the same where he wants them delivered.
Russia ceased sales. Then someone blew the pipeline and they immediately switched narratives.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Germany/EU passed sanctions, to boycott Russian energy, the same day of the invasion.
Since then there’s been a constant narrative shift from „Russia didn’t deliver!“ to „Russia blew up its own pipeline!“, to „Germanys economic crisis has nothing to do with lack of cheap Russian energy!“.
By now we are blaming German workers for not working more than already record number of hours, lamenting some „demographic“ shift when more hours were worked in Germany than ever before.
shieeet@reddit
Brother... Nord Stream 1 operated for over a decade, supplying 55 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year. Not only did over 40% of Europe’s imported natural gas come from Russia, but on the eve of the Ukraine war, Russia was providing Germany with a third of its oil, around half of its coal imports, and more than half of its gas. Regardless of Russia's eventual shutdown of Nord Stream "for maintenance," Germany’s entire fucking industry was built on cheap Russian energy. Since then, german industry is fleeing the country and its economy isn't just stagnating, it's even contracting.
The idea that Scholz said he had offered Lindner a plan to bring down energy costs, boost investment and maintain support for Ukraine is completly delusional, and Lindner - the slimeball that he is - clearly sees the writing on the wall.
Germany's sanctions on Russian energy was a stupid gamble that failed, and Germanys bootlicking to the U.S. following their obvious sabotage of Nord Stream marked a final, embarrassing blow to Germany's global standing.
datNomad@reddit
Well, nice propaganda piece you have here, but I think German automobile and fertilizer industries won't agree with that sentiment. Germany is shooting itself in the leg, what a show! Don't blame anyone, but yourself for this mess. Well deserved, haha.
Restful_Frog@reddit
Ask for more.
TheBlack2007@reddit
This wasn’t about Ukraine specifically. Lindner has been blocking everything for months now and purposely damaged his coalition partners by leaking details, sometimes even making sure the information was incomplete to mislead people.
HammerTh_1701@reddit
There's a difference between trigger and cause. This was the final straw that broke the camel's back.
Icy-Cry340@reddit
Still funny.
TheBlack2007@reddit
Linder was going to ask Scholz for snap elections today but leaked the info to the media before talking to the chancellor directly. Scholz apparently seems to have had enough and asked German Federal President Steinmeier (yes, we have a President) to release Lindner from his position which the President then did. As a reaction towards their party head essentially being booted off the administration, all FDP Ministers announced handed in their resignation, essentially causing FDP to leave the coalition. In a speech, Scholz stated he‘ll talk to the opposition leader soon and will likely lead a minority government, with support from the Conservatives until he‘ll file a vote of no-confidence in January which will likely fail, paving the way for snap elections in March - 6 months before the regular election date.
This move was a long time coming. FDP and Lindner in particular have been a road block, blocking important decisions and compromises necessary in a three-party-government in favor of party politics. It’s also suspected he’s the one who has been leaking details of cabinet meetings to the press, sometimes even purposely leaking incomplete, misleading our outright wrong info to damage the other coalition partners.
HummusSwipper@reddit
Hey just wanted to say thanks for the detailed explanation!
trungbrother1@reddit
Almost sounds like British politics with all the leaks from the top lmao.
HammerTh_1701@reddit
This was a long time coming. Lindner essentially acted as an opposition within the government, halting any significant progress on many issues that couldn't just be written into existence, but actually needed some funding.
wytheylikemyfeet@reddit
Since his party kept tanking support after joining the coalition, Lindner deliberately provoked scholz into firing him so he can control the narrative.
I don't think Lindner is any worse than scholz or habeck though, he just has stronger opinions and doesn't sway back and forth as easily
Logisticman232@reddit
If the German people wanted Merkel austerity they would’ve given the CDU & her successor another majority.
Truly seems like the coalition was doomed to fail.