Places with relative climate resilience & the ability to buy a home on 5+ acres without spending a million dollars?
Posted by ContactSpirited9519@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 51 comments
Title says it all... Obviously I'd love a community that is geared towards collaboration and has similar values to me, but I know the more rural you get the more challenging that can become.
Where are you guys moving? Settling? Buying land? Would love to hear some perspectives, especially from folks worried about climate collapse.
TheLostExpedition@reddit
Kentucky. I bought an Amish house on ~7 or 8 acres. If you really want to explore the joy of living off grid without modern convinces, or any convinces then get one. My house has more problems then I know how to convey. And they sold it as is. They took everything including the built in ice box.
I couldn't be happier. 8 bedroom 1 bath for under under 250k. No power. Lots of windows. It has gas lines and a spring, a wash of a river, and city water hook ups at the house and barn. Oh I got a barn. And it is way better then a garage.
Its been really fun modifying it to my wants and finding interesting things. Some things are made amazingly well. Others like the plumbing in my house had to be completely redone. Every joint leaked. The floor drains reeked. But the house came with two kitchens! But no appliances...
But I would definitely recommend it to a person who is handy and has the time. Or you have money to pay a Mr Handy. I love my gas lights, and solar lights, solar fans, gas fridge, wood cook stove. Gas cook stove. Walk out deck. Metal roof. Its definitely been a great experience. And the Amish we bought from keep in contact with us and think its interesting that we bought it. Block walls!
Anyways I had a manufactured home before we bought this place and the solid walls are a real comfort.
It came with a few fruit trees and established grape vines.
luckygirl721@reddit
This sounds amazing—good for you!
TheLostExpedition@reddit
Thankyou. It took a lot to get here. It will take a lot to get it up to speed. But everyday I wake up I'm happy.
Fit_Acanthisitta_475@reddit
Living the life. Solar and battery as backup going to be great too. How is the weather?
TheLostExpedition@reddit
The weather here is nice. Mild , no heavy winds or tornadoes yet. Its been 2 years so far its just been nice. Snowy winters lots of plant growth in the summer. I live in the mountainous region so I'm on a hill and the forest catches most of the weather and tames it. Trees fall on the road. Thats kind of an inconvenience.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
All depends on the location most southern states have rural land that's cheap but be prepared to drive an hour or more to find good job. If you're serious contact a real-estate agent they will email you houses and land that meet you criteria when they hit the market.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
For Climate change, the Southern Half of the US is the worst place to be.
OGMoose-4467@reddit
Can you expound on why the southern half of the US is the worst place to be? Maybe I don’t understand the context of climate resilience and climate collapse as used by the OP and others in this sub.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Message me for the maps and you will see.
Mainly it comes down to Heat. Humans can't survive long above 110° and we have so far because of AC from electricity.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
The south has always been hot and humid don't think climate change has made a difference. I would agree the Souths population would change without AC its not pleasant without it. California's got the best weather, but try buying 5 acres with a house. You got wildfires out west tornadoes and hurricanes in the South. droughts and no water in deserts snow storms up north just pick what you're most comfortable dealing with I'm good with tornadoes I live in a reinforced shipping container with 13 yards of concrete piers holding to the ground flooding is not an issue if you pick the right location.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Find me any point in recorded history that shows the South has more than 90 days of 100°F+ temperatures.
Spoiler, it never has until recently.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
The hottest summer on record, with records going back to 1872, was 1954 with an average state-wide high temperature of 95.6 degrees. The second hottest summer was 1902 with and average state-wide high temperature of 95.6 degrees.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
And what was it for the Summer of 2024?
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
2024, the average temperature in Alabama during the summer was above normal in both July and August:
July The average monthly temperature was 84.3°F, which was 2.6°F above normal. The average high was 92.6°F, and the average low was 75.9°F.
August The average monthly temperatures and highs were record setting, with 23 days of temperatures at or above 95°F.
Alabama's average summer temperature is 79°F, while the average winter temperature is 48°F. The state's climate is humid and subtropical, with precipitation spread fairly evenly throughout the year.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
What was the Average Temperature for the Southern Half of the United States? Not a specific State.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
I'm sure you know why don't you post it ?
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
And in the early 2000s it was called global warming but then some places got colder so it was changed to climate change so it could still be a problem that we have to stop somehow
Full_Confidence_2301@reddit
Increased Temperatures across the southern united states will require modification of agricultural methods or risk crop failures. The results of which coupled with increased humidity sea- level rise in coastal areas and flood risk from hurricanes, tornadoes from major storms left many in the southern states without power for almost 2 weeks and washed away many homes in the Appalachian mountains.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
My point is the more data you have the bigger the highs and lows are gonna be in the data in grand scheme of things we don't have enough data to really know about climate change and what impact modern life is having on it. I do know that emission controls on diesel engines are costing billions of dollars and generating rampant waste of limited resources in the name of climate change
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
general, cities with the largest and densest populations experience the greatest temperature differences. In fact, it's estimated that highly developed urban areas can experience mid-afternoon temperatures 15°F to 20°F higher than surrounding vegetated areas. Even within a city, some areas are hotter than others.
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
I would also argue more data is being gathered now then ever before in the early 1900s how many locations where recording temps and how accurately ?
Shot-Conflict8931@reddit
The issue is the records don't go back far enough the earths temperature naturally fluctuates the climate does change but the sky is not falling like climate change activists want you to believe it's a scam like covid mask mandates and getting vaccinated. If the people in power believe what they preach there actions would follow.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Are you looking to stay inside the US or leave? That's important.
coloradored13@reddit
DM’d as well, very interested
Embarrassed_Sun7133@reddit
Id love to see these!
ETRaybies@reddit
Yes plzzzzz
totmacher12000@reddit
I would like them too please
TwoRight9509@reddit
I’d love to see them. I’ll dm you.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
I am happy to share them.
reincarnateme@reddit
How do I DM you?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Send a chat request
NoProfessor5985@reddit
Could you share with me too?
agate-mom@reddit
Messaged, I'd love to see as well.
Oreo_Warrior87@reddit
Can you send me a dm
Infinite_Doughnut980@reddit
I would love them as well, if it's not too much trouble. Thank you !
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Send me a Chat request. Your chat feature is turned off.
bigdudeshirts@reddit
Would love that - sent dm
buttsmcfatts@reddit
Northern Idaho isn't the worst. Not much to do though.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
The people there are not very friendly to "outsiders".
SeymourHoffmanOnFire@reddit
Second that. Have a friend in Boise, went on a road trip and went up north. I’ve felt more comfortable in the Deep South. Saw a fair amount of Nazi insignias on that drive too fwiw.
buttsmcfatts@reddit
That's fairly true. I can't imagine there are a lot of places with with qualities that OP describes that are welcoming to outsiders though.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
I know of a few but OP needs to answer some questions before I can narrow that down.
ContactSpirited9519@reddit (OP)
Hahaha hi friend! Yeah, my post was pretty vague... I'd love a welcoming community. :)
Right now I'm looking at right outside of Grand Rapids, Ann Arbor/Ypsi, Kalamazoo or Portland (but the latter is the most expensive... and fires).
Willing to go outside the U.S. if it's affordable, I know it'll be hard to immigrate though.
rote_it@reddit
Regional Tasmania, Australia. Cool climate but diverse landscape including many wild rivers, beaches and mountains. Heaps of water and listed as one of the most climate resilient places on earth.
Full_Confidence_2301@reddit
In the US, Your best bet is the Maine, Michigan's UP, Vermont, or Even New Hampshire. Maine has ridiculously cheap land for anywhere east of the Mississippi. Every Northern State will continue to experience and increased number of warm days, which will actually serve to make northern states more agriculturally productive and provide for a milder climate, less snow cold weather etc. similar to how southern Pennsylvania or Kentucky is currently. Lots of Water Availability, Cheapish Land and a communities of historic self-reliance and farming. quality regions to make your homestead.
ItalianBeefCurtains@reddit
Michigan. You’re set between the Great Lakes. Lake Michigan calms down the storm severity from the west. Check out this tornado map
Aside from the Great Lakes themselves, there’s tons of rivers and lakes. Good soil.
I live in the Chicagoland area and we bought large waterfront property in Michigan for relatively cheap, not that you need to have that. If you’re merely nearby you can get a house with lots of land for not a lot of money.
bushwald@reddit
Iowa and western PA probably
fridayimatwork@reddit
Ozarks
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
That area is one overdue Earthquake away from being a giant hole in the ground.
fridayimatwork@reddit
Not really a climate issue
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit
Still not a good thing.