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daemonescanem@reddit

Tariffs will raise costs, slow trade down.

Expect a shitshow with those responsible cashing in the whole way.

Nvm that when Project 2025 takes away your OT pay and union busting by both Federal government & companies, that will effect prevailing wages.

In short, expect to work more for less with much higher inflation & job security.

And for those who sat out election & those who voted for Trump. Enjoy the chaos you will pay for it in ways you cannot imagine right now.

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up3r@reddit

Dude,, why? Is Project 2025 the chant of Reddit or what?

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mistakemaker3000@reddit

Rere, it's the only thing that outlines his upcoming policies. How dumb can you be?

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up3r@reddit

It's actually not. And has nothing to do with him.

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daemonescanem@reddit

Yup, it does. All the information is public, and there are videos of Trump talking up the Heritage & their plans. Over 50 staffers at Heritage worked in Trump WH.

Hope you enjoy the fruits of your voting. Where you make less but work more, when you need quality healtcare or you have preexisting conditions which won't be covered thanks to your voting yesterday.

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up3r@reddit

You got serious resentment issues. All that public information clearly shows it has zero to do with him. But . Thankfully, the informed knew better than believe the media lies.

I'm going to enjoy 4 Glorious years. I hope you do too.

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ignoreme010101@reddit

it's cute you chose the word 'glorious' lol

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TheIzzyRock@reddit

It only has his name all over it, literally

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daemonescanem@reddit

4 years lol... MAGA Republicans will never relinquish power.

Enjoy an authoritarian state..

If you have a conscience, remember to look in the mirror when you reminisce about how things used to be.

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up3r@reddit

Oh man... It's Forever??? Wow, this is better than I thought. Are you sure it's forever? Like, you're not messing with a brother are you?

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daemonescanem@reddit

Own it, at least you'd get a little respect rather than being a gutless, spineless Republican. 😄😄😄

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ProtestedGyro@reddit

Trump tweeted in 2020 (I believe) that he executed 62% of The Heritage Foundation's roadmap. He's absolutely in bed with them. This isn't an absurd dot to connect.

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up3r@reddit

Keep believing false information. That's your choice.

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I choose to see the people he's surrounded himself with, the authors of the project (largerly former Trump admin), his connections to the head of The Heritage Foundation, his own words talking about his previous implementation of their recommendations, JD Vance doing the foreword to Kevin Robert's book. Large amounts of his own touted Agenda 47 and Project 2025 tend to overlap anyways. Just keep one ear out of the sand the next 4 years.

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snarksneeze@reddit

Not to worry, once Trump pulls us out of NATO, WWIII will be really good for business as we ramp up to send supplies to the Middle East for the war effort.

Do your part, Keep America Safe!

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T-Bone_Bologne@reddit

Where can I find info that shows union busting and loss of OT pay is in our future? Also, I'm pretty sure the trucking industry is already not required to pay drivers OT.

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ID_Poobaru@reddit

Hourly drivers get paid OT. I’m hourly and I get OT

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T-Bone_Bologne@reddit

I've worked hourly before and was paid OT at one place and no OT in another. The company that didn't pay the OT was one of my first trucking jobs I had. That was when I first found out that trucking companies are not required to pay OT even to hourly workers. I even called the Dept of Labor and they confirmed my questioning of these practices. So if you are at a trucking company that pays OT consider it to be a pretty decent company to be at.

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TheFringedLunatic@reddit

Not anymore

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HardCandyApple@reddit

Many of us do, but his point was that it's not required by law to pay us OT.

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daemonescanem@reddit

Google Project 2025.

Any loss of unions organizing & collectively bargained rights will cost drivers money.

In Project 2025, they plan on eliminating overtime pay provisions.

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T-Bone_Bologne@reddit

Okay, thanks.

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darral27@reddit

Here’s the Reddit answer with zero basis in truth and only pushing political propaganda. Get off the trucker sub.

Lifting regulation, bringing in more US based production, Trumps last 4 were great for trucking and these 4 will be as well.

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RoadStocks@reddit

Yep For real. Go red. Also reddit is sadly mostly all left extremists, so dont be shocked these morons downvoted you.

Theres a reason Trump won yet reddit has no single positive posts about him. Mods go out of their way to delete posts like that within minutes to control narratives. Ive been seeing it all day yet again. Blue Reddit Clowns do nothing but regurgitate the same echo chamber of bad thoughts with one another and farm Karma.

I mean lol.

That Guy is talking about OT taken away…. Made me laugh…..too ignorant to realize this is the trucker sub. What fucking OT? except from companies that “opt” to give it to us.

Says hes a driver. Driving fucking lyfts is not trucking. He needs to take your suggestion and get the fuck off this sub. Already called out on lies

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mistakemaker3000@reddit

So where's your positive post about how Trump's policies will benefit truckers? Cause it seems like you're just yappin with nothing to say

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Zodi88@reddit

We can look to 2016-2020 and outside of the covid bubble, Truckers got shafted by Trump. Of course this industry would champion him again. 😂

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Mistermeena@reddit

I dont agree with your politics but you are correct about reddit. I did not see one single "ballot post" voting for trump. You'd think she'd win by miles. Social media is part of the problem - people need to stop thinking of it as a source of reliable information.

Like it or not, this is democracy and he's been given a mandate so let's see what he does with it

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Zodi88@reddit

More taxes for drivers and less jobs due to an increase in Visa drivers was "great for trucking" huh

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daemonescanem@reddit

Some of project 2025 goals. Next to last one is one yall might not enjoy.

Allowing states to ban labor unions in the private sector.

Making it easier for corporations to fire workers who engage in collective action or organizing.

Allowing corporations to get rid of unions even when the workers are protected by a signed union contract.

Forcing workers to hold secret ballot elections to form a union even when their employer has agreed to voluntarily recognize it.

Eliminating overtime protections for workers.

Allowing states to ban labor unions in the private sector.

Making it easier for corporations to fire workers who engage in collective action or organizing.

Allowing corporations to get rid of unions even when the workers are protected by a signed union contract.

Forcing workers to hold secret ballot elections to form a union even when their employer has agreed to voluntarily recognize it.

Eliminating overtime protections for workers.

Ignoring the federal minimum wage.

Eliminating federal rules that protect children from working in mines, meatpacking plants and other dangerous workplaces.

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daemonescanem@reddit

You clearly have a different memory or experience than I do.

No its not political propaganda they published their plans two years ago.

Deregulation only helps profits for corporations, not drivers. You proly love trickle down economy trope they push.

And no I won't leave trucker sub, 24 years in as a driver. I'll be here long after your gone.

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DCOMIDIA@reddit

We will revisit this post in 1 year

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daemonescanem@reddit

Do year 2 & 4. Thats more reflective of how economies work.

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DCOMIDIA@reddit

Fair enough. Talk to you again in 2026&2028 have a great rest of your day

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BitPuzzleheaded5311@reddit

True..

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

The same way every single president and elected official has for the past 20 years, a lot of lip service with no real changes. Just keep the wheels moving without sweating it driver.

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dreamerindogpatch@reddit

Lord, I hope you're right.

But this is the culmination of 40+ years of effort to thoroughly fuck the American experiment and I don't see them not taking advantage of it.

They're gonna fundamentally alter the country and not, I fear, for the better.

But, I hope we're wrong. I really do. The status quo sucks, but it's light years ahead of where we could be

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TigerBlood1991@reddit

Wtf are you on about lol

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csimonson@reddit

Project 2025 would be my bet.

It's a cluster fuck of a plan that'd fuck this country harder than a trucker that hasn't been home in years and has somehow found an 8/10 lot lizard with no STDs.

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chaoss402@reddit

You guys need to stop with the whole 2025 thing. It's gotten old. It's a plan from a think tank that Trump has never endorsed.

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NekoboyBanks@reddit

He's only good friends and colleagues with everyone at Heritage Foundation involved in drafting it. They just wrote the plan with detailed steps for implementing it because they were bored. Nbd, really.

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chaoss402@reddit

I don't expect any more major changes, but the added flexibility to the HOS rules did come under the last Trump administration.

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Glock2puss@reddit

We can hope for the better but realistically all politicians lie and don't follow on their promises

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DixDark@reddit

And I'm not even a politician!..

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No_Butterscotch1150@reddit

Neither is Trump. We're fucked. If he were smart he'd appoint actual knowledgeable people instead of loyalists.

He got 2nd chance for a reason but he'll fuck this one up too.

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Expert-Accountant780@reddit

Like that Levin fellow?

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DustyOlBones@reddit

Hmm Im not sure I believe you

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Soberg1itch@reddit

I can say from my personal experience as an owner in the construction/forestry industry that confidence in projects and investment is very high as of this morning. It’s like a light switch being turned on after the worst year we’ve seen since the collapse in 2008. Regardless of your opinion of Trump and regardless of what his policies are actually going to bring the people who are investing in my industry and signing my checks are much more confident in spending money compared to yesterday.

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HowlingWolven@reddit

Lumber imports might become an issue, I see that turning into a trade war potentially.

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Soberg1itch@reddit

Lumber industry is tricky. I’m not well versed on building structures but I’m fairly tied into the logging industry here. There’s plenty of local timber, plenty of trucks to haul it, and plenty of operational mills. Problem is the forest service gets in the way of effective logging, rates for log trucks are in the toilet, and so many local mills are run by companies in Canada and other outsiders. Luckily I’m just on the excavation side of things now but it’d be interesting to see what the logging companies are planning now.

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trakr24@reddit

Same here in the Metal Building industry. The consensus of the owners and COO of the plant I work for was that we are about to go into overdrive with production and deliveries since the investors and buyers are going to be confident on their investments with a Republican in office.

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ResidentComplaint19@reddit

Sounds like vibes more than anything. My car dealers have the same reaction, and it’s because their guy won.

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Soberg1itch@reddit

I guess vibes is one way to put it. My industry is overwhelmingly ultra conservative, even in a blue state like Oregon. The gears don’t turn and the money doesn’t flow without the conservative business owners being confident in the economy. It went from trucks being parked and sold and no one wanting to expand to a gold rush of purchasing trucks and equipment and bidding project overnight.

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FattySports@reddit

Hell yeah

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hamboner3172@reddit

Despite all the pictures, I don't think he'll be stealing any trash hauling jobs.

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Saaaaaaaammmmmmmm@reddit

Jokes on him, that’s where the money is

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Dragonr0se@reddit

Not around here. I currently get paid twice what is listed for trash hauling just by being a yard dog at a local warehouse.

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bootloops30@reddit

Get off Reddit and get my damn trailer loaded😆

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Dragonr0se@reddit

Dude, if I was in charge of loading, they'd be done a LOT faster than they are... some of these fuckers are so damn slow.

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DustyOlBones@reddit

Shut up, shut up, shut up

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Simcan99@reddit

Ask me again in 18 months, when his tariffs cause a global recession.

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Kaidenshiba@reddit

Depends on if he picks the teamster union head for the department of transportation.

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Molten_Baco@reddit

Also no president in history wrote more permits for domestic drilling than Biden

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mikeamendola2236@reddit

That’s a lie. Our oil production in California was cut by 25%. We have had several trucking companies go out of business in kern county because of this including my last job. There is another big company leaving California in the next few months all because how slow our oil industry is.

You are literally talking out of your ass and don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Molten_Baco@reddit

You know…. There is a lot more land in America than fucking California right.

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Zodi88@reddit

It'll be more of the same: good news for companies, bad news for American workers.

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ElMeroCeltibero@reddit

That's crazy, people in the immigration subreddit were just saying that he massively cut work visas. It almost seems like reddit just says Trump's policies are whatever will make him look bad in the context of the subreddit he's being discussed in

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Zodi88@reddit

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/06/trump-administration-nearly-doubles-h-b-guest-visa-program-which-brings-many-mexican-workers/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/20/16003254/trump-h2b-visa-program

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Micro-Skies@reddit

You could always do a casual Google search instead of relying on reddit for your answers.

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Fragrant-Bug4817@reddit

Google search usually sends me to Reddit, lol

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Micro-Skies@reddit

That's because you spend a lot of time here, and Google knows that

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Librado65@reddit

This is the part alot of people don't realize...like that border wall that was supposed to be paid by Mexico. Except due to the Chinese trade war...Mexico is now the USA biggest trading partner surpassing China lol and Mexico still hasn't paid for the border wall lol

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CoupeZsixhundred@reddit

And part of Project 2025 is the elimination of the Jones Act, which is mainly a maritime law, but it got a lot of attention in the discussions about the passage of NAFTA. The Jones Act prevents “cabotage”, which is a really cool word, but that’s when a foreign flagged ship (or truck from Mexico/Canada) brings a load into the U.S., and then picks up cargo whose destination is within the country, instead of immediately leaving. Canadian trucks might be different, but it was mainly a problem with Mexican trucks, who if you’ve ever driven on highways down there, you can understand would never want to return. Elimination of the Jones Act would allow mega’s from any country to compete on our highways, and because of the obvious threat to national security all talk of ending the Act has gone nowhere.

Until now.

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Leek-434@reddit

When did he say he was for "project 2025'? Only leftists have said he is.

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HowlingWolven@reddit

If I quoted him, would you believe me?

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Leek-434@reddit

I would if it was legit. Videos etc of people saying he is down for p2025 is one thing, but I won't believe it until I see he said it because all I've seen is him saying he isn't and doesn't even know what it's about. Let's just sit on this and see. revisit this comment ina year or so. I'll even venmo you guys for a round of drinks if you're right lol

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HowlingWolven@reddit

It’s legit, but I’m not sure I can convince you of that. I’m just some guy on the internet with a dog as my pfp, after all.

I encourage you to search out P2025 when you have some time, read through it and its policies particularly on trade and labour, and look for news coverage from both sides of our current divide with an open mind. I’m trying to do the same from my side.

Trump has endorsed P2025 in the past, but has distanced himself from it publicly during the latter weeks of his campaign when some of its most heinous proposals on human rights were used against it and him by Harris’ campaign.

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thtamthrfckr@reddit

He only says he doesn’t know something when he knows it’s bad, otherwise he knows everything about everything, haven’t noticed that trend? He also said they (heritage foundation) by name drafted his whole agenda for the term in the white house, pretty weird he had them do all that, spoke in front of them multiple times and his VP wrote the forward to project 2025, but yeah all coincidences I’m sure, Trump the man of great coincidences

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TheFringedLunatic@reddit

Of course they wouldn’t. Facts don’t matter.

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HashnaFennec@reddit

He’s claimed he knows nothing behind it and isn’t involved with the group behind it (Heritage Foundation) but he’s spoken at there events and has a number of there members on his campaign team. There’s enough connections to be worried.

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Chuuby_Gringo@reddit

His VP penned the forward, so there's that

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Leek-434@reddit

Because their members align themselves with the Republican ticket. Arguing online is stupid. We will see I guess. Nothing can be done about it now so there's no point in arguing. Let's revisit in a year or so 🤷🏽‍♂️

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HowlingWolven@reddit

I’m a Canadian crossborder driver and I cannot interstate. One load down, one trailer swap, one load up. Anything more and it’s a Jones act violation.

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avo_cado@reddit

It would be good for Puerto Rico though

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RurouniRinku@reddit

I'm not sure how people think a businessman will cut out the middle man, and then put the common man's interests over business interests.

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Mar_Reddit@reddit

Well... I'm prolly gonna piss people off with this but...

Last time, he hammered HARD for American made manufacturing. It was why gas prices were like $0.80/gal. At least in my area it was.

I drive for my dad. With just 2 trucks, we were making $20k a WEEK hauling coils and steel.

A WEEK

Now we barely make $5k. Barely enough to put back into the trucks. He was VERY good for trucking. We just wish MFS would follow his example on that front AND JUST KEEP PUSHING AMERICAN FREIGHT LIKE THAT.

I actually believe the next 4 years are gonna be our last chance to financially get our shit together before some economically illiterate dumb fuck comes and tanks everything again.

He's still an asshole but GOD DAMN we never ran better. And if trucking is running good, everything else is.

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cleanc3r3alkillr@reddit

Anyone who thinks that the man who can barely open the door to a truck, who after he was elected the first time didn’t even know that our trucks ran on diesel fuel and didn’t understand why we can’t just fuel our trucks with gasoline since it’s cheaper, is going to do anything to help this industry is delusional. The only thing that will help this market is some major trucking companies need to go belly up and the brokers need to be regulated, neither are things that the orange man has on his radar. To be fair, the dems didn’t have us on their radar either, but at least Harris wasn’t a fascist. The only thing we can hope for is maybe with all the tariffs increasing the cost of goods brokers could increase freight rates as well and no one will notice and as a result we might see some crumbs trickle down. Unlikely.

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CaptainGibbs96@reddit

I've been saying it for years. Neither party is interested in the truckers. We do so much for this fucking country but we're the last ones to be acknowledged. I even sent a letter to the White House urging Biden to go after the votes for truckers. Truckers need to organize and show the country just how important we are to the economy.

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arbor_ghost@reddit

We work oil pipe. So, probably positive for us personally. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled, but at least we will make a little money to balm it.

I hope I live to see a third party legitimize itself.

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Any_Ad_7269@reddit

With all the qualified people in this country I cant believe these clowns were what we got to choose from.

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Dragonr0se@reddit

I would almost believe it if someone told me that before election season, all the parties come together and decide who will get the office this year and the strategize about how outrageous they can get before they turn off the people they want to vote for them.

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Fit_Hospital2423@reddit

My thoughts, exactly

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PoetDesperate4722@reddit

The concept thats a waste I hope is abandoned l. What is a waste is when neither party does what they promise to do. Lets push third party next election I don't care which but try it.

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cplog991@reddit

He won't

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Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit

It's not what Trump is going to do to the trucking market. It's who Trump and the Republicans elevate to the Transportation Secretary.

That person has the power to compel the DOT.

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thtamthrfckr@reddit

Elaine “unqualified fucked up everything” Chao McConnell comes to mind

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Itchy_Psychology6678@reddit

im pro trump, but he’s not good for trucking.

He for saving money and having foreigners take our jobs, saves money

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CartographerWest2705@reddit

Back to $5 fuel.

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freudsdriver@reddit

Should we start a betting pool, to see who gets fired first, in his cabinet?!

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Born-Doctor974@reddit

While under Trump, the economy was great. I was getting really good loads. Under biden, I’m forced to train people to make the same i used to make.

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Auquaholic@reddit

Last time he was in office, I could afford groceries and diesel. When people can afford things, they buy more, and then more things get shipped.

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MPV8614@reddit

He will probably have a fan boy at every truck stop counter seat now.

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Otakunohime@reddit

Elon Musk is his best friend and Tesla is one of many companies trying to replace us. So….

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nosamwilliam@reddit

Can’t wait to see that relationship fall out… it’s bound to happen.

It was funny hearing trump tip toe around talking trash about EV’s around Leon

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WatersEdge50@reddit

You will see sub $3.00 diesel soon

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Level_305@reddit

You sound stupid as’f boy

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CentralFeeder@reddit

Seeing that very sporadically now…

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HowlingWolven@reddit

No you won’t.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

Already got that in Texas and some parts of Louisiana, been paying under $3- $2.75 for a while now

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avantartist@reddit

Tariffs will certainly have an impact.

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Ryanisme23@reddit

Guaranteed lower fuel prices for starters.. freight prices wouldn’t be half bad if it didn’t have to be dumped right back into fuel costs. Thats a big one….

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Redsoxdragon@reddit

Depends on who he appoints ad the head of the DOT. Hopefully he can crack down on nonEnglish speaking drivers getting cdls. It's still astonishing that fluency is an actual fmcsa requirement but it's ignored at the dmv

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BoostedLexus@reddit

If he actually goes thru with the increase in tarrifs, import will decrease dramatically since consumers won't want to pay stupid high prices on unnecessary items. MAYBE it'll bring back jobs back to the US, but I highly doubt it. Mexico will for sure pick up the Chinese import slack, China already uses Mexico as an import route so it doesn't matter.

Intermodal will take a hit for sure.

I'm interested in how EPA/CARB will change, if at all. Especially since Chevron has been taken away.

OT/Tips - He won't actually take taxes away from OT/Tips. At the end of the day theyll(gov. officials) will tell you what you want to hear to get your vote. I'll 100% guarantee that won't happen.

He is against Unions, so that'll be interesting as well.

Freight, unless companies bring back jobs, it will resume normally. Ups in the spring thru fall and downs in the winter.

Fuel, we buy from OPEC, we've also been drilling our own. Unless we stop buying from them(we wont) and increase our own drilling production, it'll remain the same. Trump had nothing to do with cheap fuel, it was all supply and demand, simple economics. The pipeline, if/when resumed it won't make it to completion within 4yrs. After his last term is up, if a dem get elected, they'll just stop it again.

These are my theories.

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Zanurath@reddit

Pipeline never mattered for us anyway, it was for Canadian oil to the gulf so they could more readily export it from shipping there. It was never going to bring oil to US and would at best have some temporary jobs to the US from it.

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Tart-Resident@reddit

No. The only refineries that can process Canadian crude oil, which is sour crude is on the gulf coast.

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United_News3779@reddit

The problem isn't that it's sour, as it's easy to neutralize the H²S at the producer or when it's input into the pipelines holding tanks at the terminal. It's the fact that it's heavy oil.

The refineries used for Canadian oil on the Gulf Coast were built to handle Venezuelan heavy oil (and some from Mexico), and given the collapse of Venezuelas national oil system, sourcing heavy oil from Canada is a better option that trying to convert the existing facilities. The added bonus is that buying Canadian oil isn't funding a government that is fundamentally hostile to the US.

Source: I work in the Canadian oilfield, almost exclusively in heavy oil areas and often in sour (or extremely sour) fields. And I like to keep track of the geopolitical players and factors that influence my livelihood.

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Dense_Particular3134@reddit

Also the USA has been the world leader in oil production for the last 5 years. Other countries are willing to pay more for oil and our refineries are operating at 94% capacity so that's what keeps fuel prices up

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Zanurath@reddit

That and record profits for all the major oil companies, also 6 whole refineries shut down by those companies because running less of them at capacity is more profitable and gives them an excuse to raise prices.

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HowlingWolven@reddit

Prepare for his tariffs to trigger a trade war and an economic downturn.

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austindiorr@reddit

There’s going to be a recession next year no matter who’s president

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HowlingWolven@reddit

Protectionist isolationist policies aren’t going to make it any less severe.

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scottduvall@reddit

Tariffs: increased prices of trucks and trailers. Even though lots are already made in the US, the price will go up as they try to fill the gap from foreign made ones. Increased cost of consumer goods. Eventually maybe more domestic manufacturing jobs. Increased consumer costs means reduced demand, so probably decreased total freight. Trucking profitability likely to stay below previous highs.

Environment: Probably pulling back on environmental standards and agency policies that are requiring increasing percentages of trucks to be electric. The tech and infrastructure wasn't where it needed to be for those policies anyway, so this could be good for manufacturers, dealers, and fleets, but I don't know whether those CARB rules (and similar) are written in such a way as to be easily repealed.

Immigration: fewer immigrants driving trucks could worsen the existing driver shortage. If freight rates were up this could mean better pay for drivers, but with freight rates being down it just means more fleets shutting down as they can't make money any more. More fleets dying means more used trucks on the market, which could dampen the truck price pressure from tariffs.

Of course, maybe we will see a new wave of consumer optimism and spending and that will turn all the numbers around. I'd be surprised though.

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scottduvall@reddit

(replying to deleted comment asserting no driver shortage): That's an interesting position, and led me to do some digging on where the "driver shortage" claim comes from. An ATA report from a couple years ago talks about how their process isn't surveying carriers, because that would inflate the numbers. Instead, they look at supply of drivers (derived from census information on industry employment) and compare it to demand (derived from tractor counts, industry growth data, and other information) and use that difference to determine the shortage.

I can definitely see how broad/national industry statistical claims might not match up with what people are experiencing personally. I'm not a driver so am always curious to learn what drivers are seeing.

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12darrenk@reddit

Unfortunately, the ATA isn't exactly a reliable source on this. The ATA is the mouthpiece for the very large carriers. Many of those carriers have greater than 90% driver employment turnover every year. So they need fresh drivers constantly. And they need cheap drivers. People often start out with these companies to get experience in order to get a better job. Taking a year or so of less pay and not great conditions without having accidents or tickets can turn into a good job simply because you have experience and are insurable for better companies. So, while the companies in the ATA may have a shortage, it really doesn't show what the industry as a whole looks like. It's just a subset of the industry. If that makes sense.

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InvadurZim00@reddit

Intelligent speculation don’t see it often here lol only thing I disagree with you is the driver shortage. There is simply no shortage of drivers seems like one of the many lies the industry feeds to get whoever has half a brain behind the wheel.

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emdefmek@reddit

Good luck getting any produce out of Yuma, Brownsville, etc. Good luck getting freight from overseas. Also expect to sit for days at JBS, Smithfield, Tyson, empirical etc because they don’t have any workers.

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DixDark@reddit

I guess prices will go up for everything, but the pay stays the same, so at least something is gonna be stable.

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carguy6912@reddit

This country would be fucked without yall and I think they know that

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SargeOsis@reddit

Tariffs slow trade between nations. If it gets widespread enough you end up with The Great Depression as nations retaliate against one another. So we'll haul less stuff and it'll be more expensive. On-shoring jobs would mitigate it, but that isn't a quick solution. Mass deportations will start in other industries where immigrant labor is concentrated, like meat processing and farming. It'll eventually get everywhere but trucking isn't the likely place for it to start unless state DoTs are going to start checking citizenship status.

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Ok-Assignment-9959@reddit

I made the most money in 18-19. It's been shit since 2020

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imprezv@reddit

You must have fucked up somewhere. I made crazy money in 21,22

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oasuke@reddit

Because of Covid.

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T-Bone_Bologne@reddit

same

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Slightly_Left@reddit

Whoever won either way, business starts to move after elections. Maybe less new immigrant drivers flocking to the industry. Maybe more manufacturing in the US.

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imprezv@reddit

I doubt there will be fewer immigrant drivers. His corporate overlords want cheap labor.

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magichands6969@reddit

Do you mean affect? Positively

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LunaHazelDNA1@reddit

Respectfully

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lotlizardexpert@reddit (OP)

Whoops lmao you got me

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Frenchie1001@reddit

He will probably make it worse, he did last time with a few things but largely he is all talk so largely not much will change.

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DrillTheThirdHole@reddit

if he follows through with the tariffs then american industry should pick up, which is good for freight volume

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Haunting-Ad788@reddit

I hope you don’t rely on overtime.

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1keto@reddit

I'm hoping fuel prices will stabilize at a lower level after we start going after our own fuel Underground here in the US. So lower fuel prices should mean more things moving and hopefully some better profit in the trucking world.

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NorthDriver8927@reddit

Start? You guys have been the largest consumer of your own oil since you started drilling it.

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Moist_Tortoise@reddit

There’s a reason why our education is ranked one of the lowest. Good thing is that you don’t need to be smart to make money.

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Razziaro@reddit

Bad thing you also don't need to be smart to actually vote.

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1keto@reddit

They've quit drilling a lot in the last 4 years and stupidly used up our strategic reserves. If you're not here you didn't feel the effect of fuel prices going up 4 years ago immediately after that change.

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NorthDriver8927@reddit

Just because they slow down on drilling doesn’t necessarily mean a decrease in production. Just means there’s less new wells being added to the total number. Production numbers are usually “throttled” to match demand because of a lack of storage. If they opened every well at maximum flow rates, where would you store it? Corpus can only store approx 6 million barrels of oil I think?

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1keto@reddit

So you tell me what happened in 2020 when the other guy got in control? Fuel prices rose enormously. It would be supply and demand at any rate

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NorthDriver8927@reddit

Simulated demand and inflation. Increase profits with everything else.

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1keto@reddit

Like I said supply and demand. Whether it's shut down Wells quit Drilling new ones or throttle what you have it's it was rough on trucking. This needs to be reversed

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NorthDriver8927@reddit

I hear ya. This is the first year where my fuel costs have exceeded 30% of my rates.

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1keto@reddit

Sorry it was 2021 I was talking about Not 2020 I corrected that above.
Well hopefully that will we'll head the other direction for all of us my friend.

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supermarble94@reddit

America does not consume the oil it produces; it's not the right type. It's exported, and we import the correct type from overseas, usually middle east.

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NorthDriver8927@reddit

False. The oil you guys produce is refined and then consumed. The oil you produce is the same as the oil in the Middle East. The only difference is your oil costs more because of health and safety. The reason why you guys import oil is because your consumption outweighs your production. The oil produced in the eastern states is light condensate and requires less refinement to be turned into a usable fuel than the southern and western states heavy crude but it’s all oil.

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timmer2500@reddit

Yeah, just another one parroting Bullshit.

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peffer32@reddit

We've pumped more oil in the last few years than any country in the history of the world. So much we have to import it to be refined because we don't have the refining capacity here. You've been lied to.

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1keto@reddit

It wouldn't be the first time if I've been lied to but my wallet doesn't lie to me

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peffer32@reddit

Then you've got a problem with the oil companies gouging you. Lack of drilling isn't the problem.

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1keto@reddit

Of course oil companies Make extra money when they can. And anywhere they can get some extra help on that they will take

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MotoDasher@reddit

All these people acting like they didn’t already live through one Trump term.

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RedditAstroturfed@reddit

He'll jam through a bunch of judges to overturn the hours of service as un constitutional and if you aren't driving 12 hours a day for the same take home pay your carrier can fire you

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up3r@reddit

Can't be ANY WORSE. But, he recognizes hard work and it's value. Money flowing into businesses more freely is going to be a big help. An America first policy will be helpful.

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Odin4456@reddit

I feel like construction won’t be hindered to hard by this, going to be a crazy year next year

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Responsible_CDN_Duck@reddit

Materials gotta come from somewhere, and it takes time to ramp up local production to replace imports.

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Odin4456@reddit

Cement powder and rocks don’t come from China

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TypicalRecon@reddit

Just wait til Nucor is saying that your rolling date for the steel needed on a project in now a year later than expected. I was in the steel industry during the last trump tarrifs and a lot shops were caught with their pants down.

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CrookByTheBook@reddit

If he imposes all the terrors he says he’s going to it’s gonna hurt the KontainerBroz

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CTFin_Fan@reddit

What about hazardous waste & state regulated waste; those will be thinning out 🤦🏽‍♂️

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shibbledoop@reddit

Freight was awesome 18-22. Not all of it due to his administration but some of it indirectly for sure. We will see.

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Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit

Worldwide supply chain shortages helped that immensely, I remember 350 a mile PPE loads.

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shibbledoop@reddit

Yep. 18-19 was strong too though even before Covid made everything go nuts

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ResidentComplaint19@reddit

The amount of DOT numbers that have opened up since that time might be an issue.

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shibbledoop@reddit

Yeah a lot of onesie twosie operators flooded the market during Covid. Many of them went underwater when freight drop but they were left with a $200k financed truck. But capacity is there once we hit the ground running. Contracted rates will probably fare better for a while before spot rates do.

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ResidentComplaint19@reddit

We have the flip flop mafia out our way in the northeast. The only way I see them surviving doing non cdl car hauling is multiple drivers under the same insurance policy.

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Prior-Speech-4312@reddit

It will still be same, the brokers are gonna be incharge, highway police is gonna give out more tickets, less than a dollar per mile. Stupid shippers and stupider receivers.

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Eastern_East_96@reddit

Well, the good news is he's pro american made goods and anti import. The tariffs while frightening for other countries is a good thing for American businesses, especially those states with a strong workforce. That will boost the freight market.

That is in theory, what should happen but we shall see.

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BitPuzzleheaded5311@reddit

We pay the tariffs with higher prices……

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Eastern_East_96@reddit

But it will boost the freight economy, owner operators will make more, forcing companies to pay drivers more.

You will pay higher prices but your wage will also go up. What people don't seem to realize.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

Thats.... not how that works. Tarriffs are a deterent, do you remember the last time trump started a tarriff war with china? Who suffered? Consumers and truck drivers because frieght slowed down due to high cost.

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Altruistic-Cable-489@reddit

If energy prices come down the trucking industry will be more profitable. Only time will tell though speculation will run wild.

If I had to speculate one thing it’d be that over dimensional freight will see a surge in loads/work before anyone else. If factory start being built in the USA someone needs to haul the equipment to build it.

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Valuable_Pianist9506@reddit

The mega will get bigger, their drivers will work harder. Owner opps will be forced to close shop…

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Danielbbq@reddit

My company said they expected to lose runs if the election went the other way. They said, line up something else.

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Negative1Positive2@reddit

Chances are if you're on reddit you're too poor to benefit from what comes next, so as usual the average person will continue to suffer while the rich get richer.

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CaptianBrasiliano@reddit

Badly. The guy's failed at every business he's ever been involved it. He couldn't make money with a fucking casino for Christ's sake.

He blew a gigantic fortune left to him by his father but, he' managed to survive because he always works it so other people pay the freight for his bad ideas somehow. And he's totally in the pocket of giant corporations and foreign interests.

Ask a railroad worker about it. I mean, the people who own the railroads got ritcher, but their jobs pay the same and are a lot less safe.

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