How will trump effect the trucking market?
Posted by lotlizardexpert@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 279 comments
What's your take? Good or bad? How are those tariffs and mass deportation going to effect us?
Glock2puss@reddit
We can hope for the better but realistically all politicians lie and don't follow on their promises
DixDark@reddit
And I'm not even a politician!..
No_Butterscotch1150@reddit
Neither is Trump. We're fucked. If he were smart he'd appoint actual knowledgeable people instead of loyalists.
He got 2nd chance for a reason but he'll fuck this one up too.
DoctorZebra@reddit
Trump isn’t a politician? The man was president, for fuck’s sake.
No_Butterscotch1150@reddit
How did that work out the last time? Pandemic, an attempted coup.
Koseven@reddit
Trump caused a pandemic? That's weird. Last I heard, it was a virus that got loose from a Chinese lab.
No_Butterscotch1150@reddit
Yeah? He also had the necessary team to combat it that was put in place for that very reason, and guess what? He dismantled it.
Thus, we lost jobs, lives were lost, and the economy took a nose dive.
But noooo, no one wants to face that glaring fact. Rather, they blame Biden, who, by the way, BROUGHT us back from a slump.
You better hope he lives up to a 2nd chance, because if he fucks up again.
That's on you.
He wants to propose tariffs that will in turn completely fuck us over again, and the big tech billionaires that are now kissing his ass?
That's because they're NOT going to pay their fair share of taxes thus once again you small minded fuck. They have something to gain from it.
The working class will be screwed.
People really lack the ability to think first before voting against their OWN interests, and it really showed out.
The irony is, I'm already starting to see people realize it with the deer in the headlights look.
I'm glad the only thing they were considered with was the cost of groceries instead of looking at the bigger picture..🙄
WhatzUpScoobydoo@reddit
the amount of democrats on this app is hilarious
Expert-Accountant780@reddit
Like that Levin fellow?
DustyOlBones@reddit
Hmm Im not sure I believe you
BoomZhakaLaka@reddit
heritage foundation is ruthlessly efficient.
Glock2puss@reddit
Ehhh it's republican wet dreams but a lot of Republicans are just center left ex democrats who just got tired of the DNC not listening to him
BoomZhakaLaka@reddit
and now the executive has a team of heritage foundation lawyers with executive orders piled up ready to sign and a vetted database of 20,000 candidates ready to go.
it doesn't matter what republicans actually want anymore.
Zodi88@reddit
It'll be more of the same: good news for companies, bad news for American workers.
Librado65@reddit
This is the part alot of people don't realize...like that border wall that was supposed to be paid by Mexico. Except due to the Chinese trade war...Mexico is now the USA biggest trading partner surpassing China lol and Mexico still hasn't paid for the border wall lol
CoupeZsixhundred@reddit
And part of Project 2025 is the elimination of the Jones Act, which is mainly a maritime law, but it got a lot of attention in the discussions about the passage of NAFTA. The Jones Act prevents “cabotage”, which is a really cool word, but that’s when a foreign flagged ship (or truck from Mexico/Canada) brings a load into the U.S., and then picks up cargo whose destination is within the country, instead of immediately leaving. Canadian trucks might be different, but it was mainly a problem with Mexican trucks, who if you’ve ever driven on highways down there, you can understand would never want to return. Elimination of the Jones Act would allow mega’s from any country to compete on our highways, and because of the obvious threat to national security all talk of ending the Act has gone nowhere.
Until now.
HowlingWolven@reddit
I’m a Canadian crossborder driver and I cannot interstate. One load down, one trailer swap, one load up. Anything more and it’s a Jones act violation.
Accomplished-Cat-632@reddit
Your right.
Accomplished-Cat-632@reddit
Yes but American trucks can interprovincial in Canada. Load in Canada deliver in Ontario then load for the USA. As usual it’s one sided deal.
HowlingWolven@reddit
This is false. It happening and having a blind eye turned to it does not make it legal. Americans are not allowed to interstate in Canada.
Accomplished-Cat-632@reddit
Sorry is the most Canadian reply I have. Yes an American truck can. Little used but they can. America agree to do one thing and then change their minds. IMPERIAL MEASURES VERSUS METRIC. That’s how Canada became metric and Mexico suddenly America said no. Same with the cabotage deal with the USA. Canada got fn again. Agree to disagree.
Leek-434@reddit
When did he say he was for "project 2025'? Only leftists have said he is.
Contemplatetheveiled@reddit
He said he's working with great people at the heritage foundation to come up with plans to make America great again. The heritage foundation presented that plan, they called it the mandate for leadership and the news is calling it project 2025.
HowlingWolven@reddit
If I quoted him, would you believe me?
Leek-434@reddit
I would if it was legit. Videos etc of people saying he is down for p2025 is one thing, but I won't believe it until I see he said it because all I've seen is him saying he isn't and doesn't even know what it's about. Let's just sit on this and see. revisit this comment ina year or so. I'll even venmo you guys for a round of drinks if you're right lol
HowlingWolven@reddit
It’s legit, but I’m not sure I can convince you of that. I’m just some guy on the internet with a dog as my pfp, after all.
I encourage you to search out P2025 when you have some time, read through it and its policies particularly on trade and labour, and look for news coverage from both sides of our current divide with an open mind. I’m trying to do the same from my side.
Trump has endorsed P2025 in the past, but has distanced himself from it publicly during the latter weeks of his campaign when some of its most heinous proposals on human rights were used against it and him by Harris’ campaign.
thtamthrfckr@reddit
He only says he doesn’t know something when he knows it’s bad, otherwise he knows everything about everything, haven’t noticed that trend? He also said they (heritage foundation) by name drafted his whole agenda for the term in the white house, pretty weird he had them do all that, spoke in front of them multiple times and his VP wrote the forward to project 2025, but yeah all coincidences I’m sure, Trump the man of great coincidences
TheFringedLunatic@reddit
Of course they wouldn’t. Facts don’t matter.
HashnaFennec@reddit
He’s claimed he knows nothing behind it and isn’t involved with the group behind it (Heritage Foundation) but he’s spoken at there events and has a number of there members on his campaign team. There’s enough connections to be worried.
Chuuby_Gringo@reddit
His VP penned the forward, so there's that
Leek-434@reddit
Because their members align themselves with the Republican ticket. Arguing online is stupid. We will see I guess. Nothing can be done about it now so there's no point in arguing. Let's revisit in a year or so 🤷🏽♂️
avo_cado@reddit
It would be good for Puerto Rico though
Pocket_Biscuits@reddit
But but but he was going to deport people! He the company's got a nice discount. They didn't trickle it down to after the ceo?
Saffyr3_Sass@reddit
This is the answer.
ElMeroCeltibero@reddit
That's crazy, people in the immigration subreddit were just saying that he massively cut work visas. It almost seems like reddit just says Trump's policies are whatever will make him look bad in the context of the subreddit he's being discussed in
Zodi88@reddit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/06/trump-administration-nearly-doubles-h-b-guest-visa-program-which-brings-many-mexican-workers/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/20/16003254/trump-h2b-visa-program
Micro-Skies@reddit
You could always do a casual Google search instead of relying on reddit for your answers.
Fragrant-Bug4817@reddit
Google search usually sends me to Reddit, lol
Micro-Skies@reddit
That's because you spend a lot of time here, and Google knows that
RurouniRinku@reddit
I'm not sure how people think a businessman will cut out the middle man, and then put the common man's interests over business interests.
Dual-use@reddit
Likely not much will change in terms of regulations, but a booming economy will move more freight. I expect an increase in rates in the near-medium future
trucker96961@reddit
Every one saying drill. We are producing more oil now than ever. More oil means cheaper oil. Who here thinks oil companies are going to drill more to increase supply and drive down the price? They will not lose money and piss off shareholders. Also most of our oil is sweet crude. It gets exported at high prices. Our oil does little to benefit us.
Look it up. I didn't believe it either.
lotlizardexpert@reddit (OP)
I'm feeling at a TA for 2.48/gallon right now
trucker96961@reddit
Ok?
unlikely_intuition@reddit
recession is great for trucking, right?
trucker96961@reddit
Lololol 👍 I fucking hope so!!!
unlikely_intuition@reddit
I was kidding. if a recession hits, we're fucked for at least a few years. the one thing we have going for us is an economy that is currently chugging along. very strong with record low unemployment, high gdp, and solid growth. our economy is like a freighter... slow to stop or turn with good momentum. it will carry forward well for at least a couple years unless shithead rapist in chief does something like ridiculous tariffs and/or a trade war... then we'll all be broke company drivers until we are too old for reddit
trucker96961@reddit
I know you were joking. I agree with you. He rode Obama economy his first term.
unlikely_intuition@reddit
lol. phew.... I believe you now.... but one never knows who their dealing with these days!
trucker96961@reddit
🤣😅🤣😅🤣
fngboy@reddit
If he deregulates the oil companies and gets them to drill more and gets the Keystone xl done, an increase in oil will cause a decrease in the price. Lower oil prices means lower fuel prices. Economy booms when there is cheap fuel. Truckers will need to haul more stuff wages will go up. The law of supply and demand.
trucker96961@reddit
When there is more oil, prices go down. When prices go down company executives and shareholders don't make as much money. Donald can spew what he wants. Oil company's won't drill and lower profits. Simple economics. Supply and demand. It sucks but it's reality.
fngboy@reddit
They already did last time he was president. And opec flooded the market with cheap oil also. And talking about oil prices who do the oil companies like more. Democrats cause higher prices with their executive orders.
trucker96961@reddit
Never mind.
Itchy_Psychology6678@reddit
im pro trump, but he’s not good for trucking.
He for saving money and having foreigners take our jobs, saves money
trucker96961@reddit
He's for his billionaire buddys making more money.
Mar_Reddit@reddit
Well... I'm prolly gonna piss people off with this but...
Last time, he hammered HARD for American made manufacturing. It was why gas prices were like $0.80/gal. At least in my area it was.
I drive for my dad. With just 2 trucks, we were making $20k a WEEK hauling coils and steel.
A WEEK
Now we barely make $5k. Barely enough to put back into the trucks. He was VERY good for trucking. We just wish MFS would follow his example on that front AND JUST KEEP PUSHING AMERICAN FREIGHT LIKE THAT.
I actually believe the next 4 years are gonna be our last chance to financially get our shit together before some economically illiterate dumb fuck comes and tanks everything again.
He's still an asshole but GOD DAMN we never ran better. And if trucking is running good, everything else is.
robbdogg87@reddit
Gas was that cheap because of Covid not him. And I’m not too sure these companies will bring it back and not just jack up prices like they’ve already been doing. Cheaper to pay some Chinese kid $30 a month instead of some American $30 an hour plus full benefits. Also neither party in my opinion cares about us. They are all apart of the same club we will never be members of
Mar_Reddit@reddit
That last part I agree with but the first part
PFFF NO lol. The reason it costs so much is because we gotta import it from elsewhere. We ain't paying anyone to dig it up, we're importing it from elsewhere. Which is EXPONENTIALLY more expensive than just digging it up here. In house. The literal "we have food at home" saying lol.
That's why it jumped up to $6/gal or even $8/gal in a few places when Biden decided halting oil manufacturing in America was a good idea. We were relying ENTIRELY on imported fuel. Which jack's the prices up RIDICULOUSLY.
How does Covid make gas prices go down? Cause no one's using it? If anything, I would figure it would make it go up because gas expires after a few months. Which would mean more importation.
We'll see what happens in 2025. I'll gladly eat my words if we don't get considerably lower gas prices, assuming there isn't another crisis we can just give the credit to.
I also still stand by my other point about him hammering American made manufacturing. That's something EVERY President should do. It does nothing but help, not just trucking. EVERYONE benefits. And I HATE that Trump is the ONLY mf who pushes for that so hard.
If there's ONE thing we surely can all agree on with Trump, whether you love him or hate him, the mf knows money at least.
trucker96961@reddit
We are producing more oil than ever right now. Also majority of our oil (sweet crude) gets exported. There might be 1? refinery in the US that can refine it. The oil companies make more on exporting it than they would keeping it here. They don't give 2 fucks about us. They will not sacrifice profits for working Americans. Look it up. Research it if you don't belive me. I did because I didn't believe my buddy. It's sad.
robbdogg87@reddit
He’s pushing hard but the tariffs will tank the economy. But long term may or may not bring jobs back. That’s the gamble. But the main problem with jobs at home is we would have to build factories and these companies sure as hell aren’t going to on their own dime without crazy tax breaks for doing it
Laernu423@reddit
I agree with this. People are media and reddit brainwashed and just keep regurgitating the same fucking bullshit. Its honestly annoying and thats why the Left lost. They dont think for themselves, they just google and believe the first fuckin result or most upvoted comment when lol …its been propaganda.
Pre covid trump things were indeed great.
Its tucking baffling how easily people forget that and rather lean on a reddit posts because it has 30k fake upvotes.
Having an IQ is hard
Requettie@reddit
Even in the Truckers reddit forum it’s leftist asf. Lmao.
trucker96961@reddit
It's simple economics. Teriffs don't work. Read up on them. It would be great if they did but the receiving side will use them also. The working man (us) will end up paying for them in the long run. Blue collar worker getting fucked again.
RoadStocks@reddit
Its comin around. But ya. Super annoying. Pretty tired of all the repeating record Karens
BoostedLexus@reddit
If he actually goes thru with the increase in tarrifs, import will decrease dramatically since consumers won't want to pay stupid high prices on unnecessary items. MAYBE it'll bring back jobs back to the US, but I highly doubt it. Mexico will for sure pick up the Chinese import slack, China already uses Mexico as an import route so it doesn't matter.
Intermodal will take a hit for sure.
I'm interested in how EPA/CARB will change, if at all. Especially since Chevron has been taken away.
OT/Tips - He won't actually take taxes away from OT/Tips. At the end of the day theyll(gov. officials) will tell you what you want to hear to get your vote. I'll 100% guarantee that won't happen.
He is against Unions, so that'll be interesting as well.
Freight, unless companies bring back jobs, it will resume normally. Ups in the spring thru fall and downs in the winter.
Fuel, we buy from OPEC, we've also been drilling our own. Unless we stop buying from them(we wont) and increase our own drilling production, it'll remain the same. Trump had nothing to do with cheap fuel, it was all supply and demand, simple economics. The pipeline, if/when resumed it won't make it to completion within 4yrs. After his last term is up, if a dem get elected, they'll just stop it again.
These are my theories.
Pocket_Biscuits@reddit
Didn't he get with opec and putin and agreed to lower production to bring crude pricd back up? Lol.
Contemplatetheveiled@reddit
Trump did have something to do with the fuel price spike during COVID. He made a deal with OPEC to cut production therefore driving the price up before he left office.
Also tariffs will not deter foreign manufacturing. The markup they make would still be more if they assumed all of the tariff costs and didn't raise prices on products manufactured elsewhere then if those same products were manufactured here. Of course, they're going to pass that price on but there is an argument that companies have expected this and have already been raising prices to accustom consumers with the new prices.
Zanurath@reddit
Pipeline never mattered for us anyway, it was for Canadian oil to the gulf so they could more readily export it from shipping there. It was never going to bring oil to US and would at best have some temporary jobs to the US from it.
Tart-Resident@reddit
No. The only refineries that can process Canadian crude oil, which is sour crude is on the gulf coast.
United_News3779@reddit
The problem isn't that it's sour, as it's easy to neutralize the H²S at the producer or when it's input into the pipelines holding tanks at the terminal. It's the fact that it's heavy oil.
The refineries used for Canadian oil on the Gulf Coast were built to handle Venezuelan heavy oil (and some from Mexico), and given the collapse of Venezuelas national oil system, sourcing heavy oil from Canada is a better option that trying to convert the existing facilities. The added bonus is that buying Canadian oil isn't funding a government that is fundamentally hostile to the US.
Source: I work in the Canadian oilfield, almost exclusively in heavy oil areas and often in sour (or extremely sour) fields. And I like to keep track of the geopolitical players and factors that influence my livelihood.
Dense_Particular3134@reddit
Also the USA has been the world leader in oil production for the last 5 years. Other countries are willing to pay more for oil and our refineries are operating at 94% capacity so that's what keeps fuel prices up
Zanurath@reddit
That and record profits for all the major oil companies, also 6 whole refineries shut down by those companies because running less of them at capacity is more profitable and gives them an excuse to raise prices.
Negative1Positive2@reddit
Chances are if you're on reddit you're too poor to benefit from what comes next, so as usual the average person will continue to suffer while the rich get richer.
Contemplatetheveiled@reddit
Well the answer is obvious, be rich. How dumb can poor people be.
Pocket_Biscuits@reddit
Gonna be even dumber if they get what project 25 wants lol
Pocket_Biscuits@reddit
What you mean? Us average Joe's get the joy of seeing the ceos get nice fat bonuses after all the savings of the tax breaks. I'm thrilled that my boss can buy a new yacht.
emdefmek@reddit
Good luck getting any produce out of Yuma, Brownsville, etc. Good luck getting freight from overseas. Also expect to sit for days at JBS, Smithfield, Tyson, empirical etc because they don’t have any workers.
emdefmek@reddit
Why are you booing me? You know I’m right.
Chaim__Goldstein@reddit
Deporting immigrants will help with wages.
ChalupaPickle@reddit
That's not at all how that works... Trumps business losers WANT cheap labor. the cheaper the better. Him and his billionaire friends will continue to hire illegals so they don't have to pay American's real money.
Laernu423@reddit
Thats exactly how that works. Wtf are you going on about.
Weather trump will do that or not is another story. But deporting will ABSOLUTELY increase wages. The same way immigration KILLED our wages from 30+ to 20- in just a year.
Ya. Um, that IS how it works.
Koseven@reddit
Drill baby drill. Tanker drivers gonna be makin bank
scottduvall@reddit
Tariffs: increased prices of trucks and trailers. Even though lots are already made in the US, the price will go up as they try to fill the gap from foreign made ones. Increased cost of consumer goods. Eventually maybe more domestic manufacturing jobs. Increased consumer costs means reduced demand, so probably decreased total freight. Trucking profitability likely to stay below previous highs.
Environment: Probably pulling back on environmental standards and agency policies that are requiring increasing percentages of trucks to be electric. The tech and infrastructure wasn't where it needed to be for those policies anyway, so this could be good for manufacturers, dealers, and fleets, but I don't know whether those CARB rules (and similar) are written in such a way as to be easily repealed.
Immigration: fewer immigrants driving trucks could worsen the existing driver shortage. If freight rates were up this could mean better pay for drivers, but with freight rates being down it just means more fleets shutting down as they can't make money any more. More fleets dying means more used trucks on the market, which could dampen the truck price pressure from tariffs.
Of course, maybe we will see a new wave of consumer optimism and spending and that will turn all the numbers around. I'd be surprised though.
RoadStocks@reddit
Theres never been a driver shortage. It’s been long proven propaganda to drive wages down. Are you not a trucker? Because every sibgle actual trucker knows this and has known this for over a year.
scottduvall@reddit
(replying to deleted comment asserting no driver shortage): That's an interesting position, and led me to do some digging on where the "driver shortage" claim comes from. An ATA report from a couple years ago talks about how their process isn't surveying carriers, because that would inflate the numbers. Instead, they look at supply of drivers (derived from census information on industry employment) and compare it to demand (derived from tractor counts, industry growth data, and other information) and use that difference to determine the shortage.
I can definitely see how broad/national industry statistical claims might not match up with what people are experiencing personally. I'm not a driver so am always curious to learn what drivers are seeing.
12darrenk@reddit
Unfortunately, the ATA isn't exactly a reliable source on this. The ATA is the mouthpiece for the very large carriers. Many of those carriers have greater than 90% driver employment turnover every year. So they need fresh drivers constantly. And they need cheap drivers. People often start out with these companies to get experience in order to get a better job. Taking a year or so of less pay and not great conditions without having accidents or tickets can turn into a good job simply because you have experience and are insurable for better companies. So, while the companies in the ATA may have a shortage, it really doesn't show what the industry as a whole looks like. It's just a subset of the industry. If that makes sense.
InvadurZim00@reddit
Intelligent speculation don’t see it often here lol only thing I disagree with you is the driver shortage. There is simply no shortage of drivers seems like one of the many lies the industry feeds to get whoever has half a brain behind the wheel.
validxib@reddit
Hopefully at least cheaper fuel
ChalupaPickle@reddit
But with the tariffs he's wanting we'll end up in the worst recession we've ever seen. We won't have to money to afford this cheap gas. But hey whatever looks good on paper right?
validxib@reddit
You can see the future? If so, lmk how it looks. I support trump but the minute I see bs, I’ll call it. Why can’t you accept that there are people that can support a candidate and not look at him as a God. We voted for a president not some deity or king to worship. But let’s please leave politics out of it. I only want the best for you and myself. So we can both provide for our families, good luck and God bless
ChalupaPickle@reddit
I mean I dont really need to see the future, tariffs have never worked and the American people have always suffered because of it but ok, you do you.
DoctorZebra@reddit
Cheap fuel comes from cheap oil which puts oil field drivers out of work.
validxib@reddit
Do you drive for the oil fields?
DoctorZebra@reddit
Are….are you really going to try to argue that oil companies are going to operate at a loss?
validxib@reddit
I…. grabs your thigh.. I think I know where this is going
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
The same way every single president and elected official has for the past 20 years, a lot of lip service with no real changes. Just keep the wheels moving without sweating it driver.
dreamerindogpatch@reddit
Lord, I hope you're right.
But this is the culmination of 40+ years of effort to thoroughly fuck the American experiment and I don't see them not taking advantage of it.
They're gonna fundamentally alter the country and not, I fear, for the better.
But, I hope we're wrong. I really do. The status quo sucks, but it's light years ahead of where we could be
TigerBlood1991@reddit
Wtf are you on about lol
csimonson@reddit
Project 2025 would be my bet.
It's a cluster fuck of a plan that'd fuck this country harder than a trucker that hasn't been home in years and has somehow found an 8/10 lot lizard with no STDs.
chaoss402@reddit
You guys need to stop with the whole 2025 thing. It's gotten old. It's a plan from a think tank that Trump has never endorsed.
NekoboyBanks@reddit
He's only good friends and colleagues with everyone at Heritage Foundation involved in drafting it. They just wrote the plan with detailed steps for implementing it because they were bored. Nbd, really.
Upbeat-Offbeat@reddit
And his name was only mentioned 310 times and jd Vance is only best friends with the authors of it. There’s NO way Trump could know anything about it clearly! It’s not like he lies all the time.
No-Albatross6529@reddit
You must be missing a few screws
chaoss402@reddit
I don't expect any more major changes, but the added flexibility to the HOS rules did come under the last Trump administration.
arbor_ghost@reddit
We work oil pipe. So, probably positive for us personally. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled, but at least we will make a little money to balm it.
I hope I live to see a third party legitimize itself.
Any_Ad_7269@reddit
With all the qualified people in this country I cant believe these clowns were what we got to choose from.
Dragonr0se@reddit
I would almost believe it if someone told me that before election season, all the parties come together and decide who will get the office this year and the strategize about how outrageous they can get before they turn off the people they want to vote for them.
Contemplatetheveiled@reddit
This is exactly what they do. It's why both Hillary and Biden were rather unpopular amongst Democrats but won the primaries, The DNC spent millions bashing the other candidates and advertising for their pick and I have no doubt that they wanted Kamala prior to Biden stepping down.
Fit_Hospital2423@reddit
My thoughts, exactly
PoetDesperate4722@reddit
The concept thats a waste I hope is abandoned l. What is a waste is when neither party does what they promise to do. Lets push third party next election I don't care which but try it.
Super_Sphontaine@reddit
Both sides are so locked in on identity politics that i dont think anything would change hell if he gets those tariffs off it will be worse
up3r@reddit
Can't be ANY WORSE. But, he recognizes hard work and it's value. Money flowing into businesses more freely is going to be a big help. An America first policy will be helpful.
DoctorZebra@reddit
You still buying into trickle down theory?
hamboner3172@reddit
Despite all the pictures, I don't think he'll be stealing any trash hauling jobs.
Saaaaaaaammmmmmmm@reddit
Jokes on him, that’s where the money is
Dragonr0se@reddit
Not around here. I currently get paid twice what is listed for trash hauling just by being a yard dog at a local warehouse.
325trucking@reddit
So what are they listing for trash hauling?
Dragonr0se@reddit
I'd have to look it up again, it has been about a year since the last time I looked.
bootloops30@reddit
Get off Reddit and get my damn trailer loaded😆
Dragonr0se@reddit
Dude, if I was in charge of loading, they'd be done a LOT faster than they are... some of these fuckers are so damn slow.
bootloops30@reddit
Preach. I would be less upset if I had not worked Warehouse before I became a driver. Have a good night.
Dragonr0se@reddit
You too!
It would be far less frustrating if stuff like what is happening right now didn't happen. I was asked to drop an mt in 3... 3 was red. Pull 3, put it in 4, then put the mt in 3. They are side by side. Wtf am i missing that i couldn't just drop the mt in 4?
bootloops30@reddit
You have someone calling the shots that's probably never been out doing your job before. You find someone that has been promoted from within it's a night and day difference every time.
DustyOlBones@reddit
Shut up, shut up, shut up
constrman42@reddit
Tarrifs failed his first time. He's an imbecile. He will destroy the economy.
Sw4y40@reddit
This post sounds like the politics thread, a bunch of liberal crybabies. Go drive you people hair ladies and stfu.
Bamfurlough@reddit
Things will be ok until inflation takes hold from the tariffs, tax cuts, interest rate cuts, and more government debt.
ResidentInner8293@reddit
His presiency won't affect it at all. The economy is bad already we just haven't see the effects yet. When you see interest rates cut you know some ominous economic shenanigans are in store. The prediction is we will see the downturn of the economy sometime in Winter 2025. It's predicted to be depression bad. Let's hope it doesn't come to that!
mrpinkbunny72@reddit
Elon wants driverless trucks…less union…and more automated ports.
Saffyr3_Sass@reddit
I haul auto parts a lot to the factories like Toyota, and I think we’ve hauled some kind of materials. I don’t think there’s going to be any real big demand on car parts when ain’t nobody gonna be able to afford all them new models being built. That’s why I want to get back into reefer people don’t need that new car, but everybody needs to eat.
WatersEdge50@reddit
You will see sub $3.00 diesel soon
ChalupaPickle@reddit
and we won't have the money to pay for it, but hey whatever it takes to get that gas price down right?
Level_305@reddit
You sound stupid as’f boy
CentralFeeder@reddit
Seeing that very sporadically now…
HowlingWolven@reddit
No you won’t.
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
Already got that in Texas and some parts of Louisiana, been paying under $3- $2.75 for a while now
MotoDasher@reddit
All these people acting like they didn’t already live through one Trump term.
ChalupaPickle@reddit
but that was before project 2025. which will kill just about every logistics business in this country.
whitecollarpizzaman@reddit
*Affect
And I can’t imagine anything positive will come of his presidency regarding trucking. I voted for Harris due to labor reasons, not general trucking. Regulations will keep coming, and a Trump presidency will only stonewall the inevitable, then we will struggle to adapt to a wave rather than a trickle.
daemonescanem@reddit
Tariffs will raise costs, slow trade down.
Expect a shitshow with those responsible cashing in the whole way.
Nvm that when Project 2025 takes away your OT pay and union busting by both Federal government & companies, that will effect prevailing wages.
In short, expect to work more for less with much higher inflation & job security.
And for those who sat out election & those who voted for Trump. Enjoy the chaos you will pay for it in ways you cannot imagine right now.
up3r@reddit
Dude,, why? Is Project 2025 the chant of Reddit or what?
mistakemaker3000@reddit
Rere, it's the only thing that outlines his upcoming policies. How dumb can you be?
up3r@reddit
It's actually not. And has nothing to do with him.
daemonescanem@reddit
Yup, it does. All the information is public, and there are videos of Trump talking up the Heritage & their plans. Over 50 staffers at Heritage worked in Trump WH.
Hope you enjoy the fruits of your voting. Where you make less but work more, when you need quality healtcare or you have preexisting conditions which won't be covered thanks to your voting yesterday.
up3r@reddit
You got serious resentment issues. All that public information clearly shows it has zero to do with him. But . Thankfully, the informed knew better than believe the media lies.
I'm going to enjoy 4 Glorious years. I hope you do too.
ProtestedGyro@reddit
Trump tweeted in 2020 (I believe) that he executed 62% of The Heritage Foundation's roadmap. He's absolutely in bed with them. This isn't an absurd dot to connect.
up3r@reddit
Keep believing false information. That's your choice.
ProtestedGyro@reddit
I choose to see the people he's surrounded himself with, the authors of the project (largerly former Trump admin), his connections to the head of The Heritage Foundation, his own words talking about his previous implementation of their recommendations, JD Vance doing the foreword to Kevin Robert's book. Large amounts of his own touted Agenda 47 and Project 2025 tend to overlap anyways. Just keep one ear out of the sand the next 4 years.
up3r@reddit
You definitely choose to see what you want.. even if it is lies.
ProtestedGyro@reddit
Ditto, my dude.
ignoreme010101@reddit
it's cute you chose the word 'glorious' lol
TheIzzyRock@reddit
It only has his name all over it, literally
daemonescanem@reddit
4 years lol... MAGA Republicans will never relinquish power.
Enjoy an authoritarian state..
If you have a conscience, remember to look in the mirror when you reminisce about how things used to be.
up3r@reddit
Oh man... It's Forever??? Wow, this is better than I thought. Are you sure it's forever? Like, you're not messing with a brother are you?
daemonescanem@reddit
Own it, at least you'd get a little respect rather than being a gutless, spineless Republican. 😄😄😄
No-Albatross6529@reddit
Thats actually happening now moron. Please stfu. Anything is better than what we've had these last 4 years. Seriously this reddit gotta be on some BOT shiiii
Thepopethroway@reddit
For fuck sakes stop trying to engage in even more divide & conquer. Leave bystanders who don't want anything to do with your shit out of this. This American obsession with creating enemies.
daemonescanem@reddit
It's pretty fucking spoiled & entitled to not want anything to do with how society is ran & who is in power. I mean the how & who of that kinda plays a big part in people being able to live their lives.
It's simply saying, "You reap what you sow".
Thepopethroway@reddit
Your vote is worth less than toilet paper and your mouth is used only to create division.
snarksneeze@reddit
Not to worry, once Trump pulls us out of NATO, WWIII will be really good for business as we ramp up to send supplies to the Middle East for the war effort.
Do your part, Keep America Safe!
T-Bone_Bologne@reddit
Where can I find info that shows union busting and loss of OT pay is in our future? Also, I'm pretty sure the trucking industry is already not required to pay drivers OT.
ID_Poobaru@reddit
Hourly drivers get paid OT. I’m hourly and I get OT
T-Bone_Bologne@reddit
I've worked hourly before and was paid OT at one place and no OT in another. The company that didn't pay the OT was one of my first trucking jobs I had. That was when I first found out that trucking companies are not required to pay OT even to hourly workers. I even called the Dept of Labor and they confirmed my questioning of these practices. So if you are at a trucking company that pays OT consider it to be a pretty decent company to be at.
TheFringedLunatic@reddit
Not anymore
HardCandyApple@reddit
Many of us do, but his point was that it's not required by law to pay us OT.
daemonescanem@reddit
Google Project 2025.
Any loss of unions organizing & collectively bargained rights will cost drivers money.
In Project 2025, they plan on eliminating overtime pay provisions.
T-Bone_Bologne@reddit
Okay, thanks.
darral27@reddit
Here’s the Reddit answer with zero basis in truth and only pushing political propaganda. Get off the trucker sub.
Lifting regulation, bringing in more US based production, Trumps last 4 were great for trucking and these 4 will be as well.
RoadStocks@reddit
Yep For real. Go red. Also reddit is sadly mostly all left extremists, so dont be shocked these morons downvoted you.
Theres a reason Trump won yet reddit has no single positive posts about him. Mods go out of their way to delete posts like that within minutes to control narratives. Ive been seeing it all day yet again. Blue Reddit Clowns do nothing but regurgitate the same echo chamber of bad thoughts with one another and farm Karma.
I mean lol.
That Guy is talking about OT taken away…. Made me laugh…..too ignorant to realize this is the trucker sub. What fucking OT? except from companies that “opt” to give it to us.
Says hes a driver. Driving fucking lyfts is not trucking. He needs to take your suggestion and get the fuck off this sub. Already called out on lies
mistakemaker3000@reddit
So where's your positive post about how Trump's policies will benefit truckers? Cause it seems like you're just yappin with nothing to say
Zodi88@reddit
We can look to 2016-2020 and outside of the covid bubble, Truckers got shafted by Trump. Of course this industry would champion him again. 😂
Mistermeena@reddit
I dont agree with your politics but you are correct about reddit. I did not see one single "ballot post" voting for trump. You'd think she'd win by miles. Social media is part of the problem - people need to stop thinking of it as a source of reliable information.
Like it or not, this is democracy and he's been given a mandate so let's see what he does with it
Zodi88@reddit
More taxes for drivers and less jobs due to an increase in Visa drivers was "great for trucking" huh
daemonescanem@reddit
Some of project 2025 goals. Next to last one is one yall might not enjoy.
Allowing states to ban labor unions in the private sector.
Making it easier for corporations to fire workers who engage in collective action or organizing.
Allowing corporations to get rid of unions even when the workers are protected by a signed union contract.
Forcing workers to hold secret ballot elections to form a union even when their employer has agreed to voluntarily recognize it.
Eliminating overtime protections for workers.
Allowing states to ban labor unions in the private sector.
Making it easier for corporations to fire workers who engage in collective action or organizing.
Allowing corporations to get rid of unions even when the workers are protected by a signed union contract.
Forcing workers to hold secret ballot elections to form a union even when their employer has agreed to voluntarily recognize it.
Eliminating overtime protections for workers.
Ignoring the federal minimum wage.
Eliminating federal rules that protect children from working in mines, meatpacking plants and other dangerous workplaces.
daemonescanem@reddit
You clearly have a different memory or experience than I do.
No its not political propaganda they published their plans two years ago.
Deregulation only helps profits for corporations, not drivers. You proly love trickle down economy trope they push.
And no I won't leave trucker sub, 24 years in as a driver. I'll be here long after your gone.
DCOMIDIA@reddit
We will revisit this post in 1 year
daemonescanem@reddit
Do year 2 & 4. Thats more reflective of how economies work.
DCOMIDIA@reddit
Fair enough. Talk to you again in 2026&2028 have a great rest of your day
BitPuzzleheaded5311@reddit
True..
adventureandlife137@reddit
LTL trucking is the best. Never going back to anything else.
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
It's not what Trump is going to do to the trucking market. It's who Trump and the Republicans elevate to the Transportation Secretary.
That person has the power to compel the DOT.
paulbearer619@reddit
The power of the DOT compels you
thtamthrfckr@reddit
Elaine “unqualified fucked up everything” Chao McConnell comes to mind
millennialtrucker@reddit
Oil is going to boom. Raises for everybody!
Wizofsorts@reddit
It's gonna get real busy come April.
Mcj1972@reddit
Well if he blanket tariffs all Chinese goods you can bet imports are going to fall off. Won't need trucks to transport or raw materials and finished goods aren't coming in. China is going to just go elsewhere for AG products so exports will suffer as well. It's going to be a shit storm
AustinLostIn@reddit
Honestly, I'm worried about all of these tariffs he wants to impose. I'm worried that either we will get much less freight to haul from ports or the extra cost will come out of our pay.
Molten_Baco@reddit
Also no president in history wrote more permits for domestic drilling than Biden
mikeamendola2236@reddit
That’s a lie. Our oil production in California was cut by 25%. We have had several trucking companies go out of business in kern county because of this including my last job. There is another big company leaving California in the next few months all because how slow our oil industry is.
You are literally talking out of your ass and don’t know what you’re talking about.
Molten_Baco@reddit
You know…. There is a lot more land in America than fucking California right.
mikeamendola2236@reddit
Only permits he signed was to buy oil from Russia.
marek4792@reddit
I think his administration will halt new regulations not created by congress ie. Speed limiters, no action from FMCSA is telling almost like they expecting it to be on the chopping block plus 50 states suing them if it were to be pushed through if Harris won. EPA 2027 standards and the EV mandates despite the serious lack of infrastructure. Maybe put the hammer on CARB and tell them to sod off on unrealistic emission standards/mandates and their checkpoints. Lower the cost of fuel. He shot himself in the foot with no per diem for company drivers. Hopefully, fixes this in his new tax plan. Tariffs will be interesting in how widespread he will implement them. Maybe the over saturation will continue until manufacturing comes back and induces demand. Who knows?
charlestontime@reddit
As long as the massive deficit spending continues the economy will be fine.
bootloops30@reddit
The man has alot of trash to take out having said that their is a lot of surface issues I think could be a easy fix between both president/government and us as a industry.
Making my best effort to clean up the list feel free to suggest/discuss below.
Grammar is going to be messy starting out Will do my best to clean up later.
President/government
1)mandate us as drivers are paid for ALL on duty time including warehouse breakdown and dispatch.
2)rework 14 hour clock so we as drivers are not penalized for taking a nap
3)for the love of God please fix the truck parking issue we are not asking every place be a 16 million dollar 9 stall bathroom shack but a designated area that's not full before 9pm would be great.
4) pass bill H.R.3869 requiring drivers to have access to bathrooms at shippers and receivers. Note we need to call out drivers and companies and employ drivers that act like pigs and get them out of the industry. One kid poops in the pool ruins the whole party.
5) do a better job holding companies accountable for (run it until it breaks) mentality and not just blame the driver majority of the time.
6) develop a voluntary system for experience drivers to grade trucking schools and assist in suggesting updated curriculums.
6.5) keep the grandfather system but train a new drivers on different divisions of trucking IE. Van drivers, reefers, low boy, flatbed, and most importantly hazmat with a breakdown of different classes in hazmat IE explosives poisons corrosives fuels etc etc
7)develop a official ask an officer system with questions regarding maintenance issues and training on trucks without risk of repercussions.
8) mandate continued education for civilian (four wheelers) every 3 to 5 years with immediate mandate for violation involving commercial vehicles. Example cutting off truck to take an exit
9) incentivize/mandate truck stops allow gyms to open within walking distance of parking area. Example anytime fitness planet fitness etc etc.
Us as drivers in the industry.
1) designated group of drivers either active or retired that have time behind the wheel to form a council to bring up issues to DOT and government that come up with the industry as a whole.
2) develop a standardized report card for company drivers on what to expect before working for a company examples: ALL mileage paid ,average downtime for week loading/unloading, condition of equipment. Etc possibly have a way to back up reported statistics using elog system.
3) develop a training program to teach younger drivers that might want to work up in the industry (example) van driver develop into low boy work. 3)
H0TBU0YZ@reddit
He will weaken your unions power. We are fuxked.
Soberg1itch@reddit
I can say from my personal experience as an owner in the construction/forestry industry that confidence in projects and investment is very high as of this morning. It’s like a light switch being turned on after the worst year we’ve seen since the collapse in 2008. Regardless of your opinion of Trump and regardless of what his policies are actually going to bring the people who are investing in my industry and signing my checks are much more confident in spending money compared to yesterday.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Lumber imports might become an issue, I see that turning into a trade war potentially.
Soberg1itch@reddit
Lumber industry is tricky. I’m not well versed on building structures but I’m fairly tied into the logging industry here. There’s plenty of local timber, plenty of trucks to haul it, and plenty of operational mills. Problem is the forest service gets in the way of effective logging, rates for log trucks are in the toilet, and so many local mills are run by companies in Canada and other outsiders. Luckily I’m just on the excavation side of things now but it’d be interesting to see what the logging companies are planning now.
trakr24@reddit
Same here in the Metal Building industry. The consensus of the owners and COO of the plant I work for was that we are about to go into overdrive with production and deliveries since the investors and buyers are going to be confident on their investments with a Republican in office.
ResidentComplaint19@reddit
Sounds like vibes more than anything. My car dealers have the same reaction, and it’s because their guy won.
Soberg1itch@reddit
I guess vibes is one way to put it. My industry is overwhelmingly ultra conservative, even in a blue state like Oregon. The gears don’t turn and the money doesn’t flow without the conservative business owners being confident in the economy. It went from trucks being parked and sold and no one wanting to expand to a gold rush of purchasing trucks and equipment and bidding project overnight.
FattySports@reddit
Hell yeah
Simcan99@reddit
Ask me again in 18 months, when his tariffs cause a global recession.
Kaidenshiba@reddit
Depends on if he picks the teamster union head for the department of transportation.
cleanc3r3alkillr@reddit
Anyone who thinks that the man who can barely open the door to a truck, who after he was elected the first time didn’t even know that our trucks ran on diesel fuel and didn’t understand why we can’t just fuel our trucks with gasoline since it’s cheaper, is going to do anything to help this industry is delusional. The only thing that will help this market is some major trucking companies need to go belly up and the brokers need to be regulated, neither are things that the orange man has on his radar. To be fair, the dems didn’t have us on their radar either, but at least Harris wasn’t a fascist. The only thing we can hope for is maybe with all the tariffs increasing the cost of goods brokers could increase freight rates as well and no one will notice and as a result we might see some crumbs trickle down. Unlikely.
CaptainGibbs96@reddit
I've been saying it for years. Neither party is interested in the truckers. We do so much for this fucking country but we're the last ones to be acknowledged. I even sent a letter to the White House urging Biden to go after the votes for truckers. Truckers need to organize and show the country just how important we are to the economy.
cplog991@reddit
He won't
CartographerWest2705@reddit
Back to $5 fuel.
freudsdriver@reddit
Should we start a betting pool, to see who gets fired first, in his cabinet?!
Born-Doctor974@reddit
While under Trump, the economy was great. I was getting really good loads. Under biden, I’m forced to train people to make the same i used to make.
Auquaholic@reddit
Last time he was in office, I could afford groceries and diesel. When people can afford things, they buy more, and then more things get shipped.
MPV8614@reddit
He will probably have a fan boy at every truck stop counter seat now.
Otakunohime@reddit
Elon Musk is his best friend and Tesla is one of many companies trying to replace us. So….
nosamwilliam@reddit
Can’t wait to see that relationship fall out… it’s bound to happen.
It was funny hearing trump tip toe around talking trash about EV’s around Leon
avantartist@reddit
Tariffs will certainly have an impact.
Ryanisme23@reddit
Guaranteed lower fuel prices for starters.. freight prices wouldn’t be half bad if it didn’t have to be dumped right back into fuel costs. Thats a big one….
Redsoxdragon@reddit
Depends on who he appoints ad the head of the DOT. Hopefully he can crack down on nonEnglish speaking drivers getting cdls. It's still astonishing that fluency is an actual fmcsa requirement but it's ignored at the dmv
HowlingWolven@reddit
Prepare for his tariffs to trigger a trade war and an economic downturn.
austindiorr@reddit
There’s going to be a recession next year no matter who’s president
HowlingWolven@reddit
Protectionist isolationist policies aren’t going to make it any less severe.
DixDark@reddit
I guess prices will go up for everything, but the pay stays the same, so at least something is gonna be stable.
carguy6912@reddit
This country would be fucked without yall and I think they know that
SargeOsis@reddit
Tariffs slow trade between nations. If it gets widespread enough you end up with The Great Depression as nations retaliate against one another. So we'll haul less stuff and it'll be more expensive. On-shoring jobs would mitigate it, but that isn't a quick solution. Mass deportations will start in other industries where immigrant labor is concentrated, like meat processing and farming. It'll eventually get everywhere but trucking isn't the likely place for it to start unless state DoTs are going to start checking citizenship status.
Ok-Assignment-9959@reddit
I made the most money in 18-19. It's been shit since 2020
imprezv@reddit
You must have fucked up somewhere. I made crazy money in 21,22
oasuke@reddit
Because of Covid.
T-Bone_Bologne@reddit
same
Slightly_Left@reddit
Whoever won either way, business starts to move after elections. Maybe less new immigrant drivers flocking to the industry. Maybe more manufacturing in the US.
imprezv@reddit
I doubt there will be fewer immigrant drivers. His corporate overlords want cheap labor.
magichands6969@reddit
Do you mean affect? Positively
LunaHazelDNA1@reddit
Respectfully
lotlizardexpert@reddit (OP)
Whoops lmao you got me
Frenchie1001@reddit
He will probably make it worse, he did last time with a few things but largely he is all talk so largely not much will change.
DrillTheThirdHole@reddit
if he follows through with the tariffs then american industry should pick up, which is good for freight volume
Haunting-Ad788@reddit
I hope you don’t rely on overtime.
1keto@reddit
I'm hoping fuel prices will stabilize at a lower level after we start going after our own fuel Underground here in the US. So lower fuel prices should mean more things moving and hopefully some better profit in the trucking world.
NorthDriver8927@reddit
Start? You guys have been the largest consumer of your own oil since you started drilling it.
Moist_Tortoise@reddit
There’s a reason why our education is ranked one of the lowest. Good thing is that you don’t need to be smart to make money.
Razziaro@reddit
Bad thing you also don't need to be smart to actually vote.
1keto@reddit
They've quit drilling a lot in the last 4 years and stupidly used up our strategic reserves. If you're not here you didn't feel the effect of fuel prices going up 4 years ago immediately after that change.
NorthDriver8927@reddit
Just because they slow down on drilling doesn’t necessarily mean a decrease in production. Just means there’s less new wells being added to the total number. Production numbers are usually “throttled” to match demand because of a lack of storage. If they opened every well at maximum flow rates, where would you store it? Corpus can only store approx 6 million barrels of oil I think?
1keto@reddit
So you tell me what happened in 2020 when the other guy got in control? Fuel prices rose enormously. It would be supply and demand at any rate
NorthDriver8927@reddit
Simulated demand and inflation. Increase profits with everything else.
1keto@reddit
Like I said supply and demand. Whether it's shut down Wells quit Drilling new ones or throttle what you have it's it was rough on trucking. This needs to be reversed
NorthDriver8927@reddit
I hear ya. This is the first year where my fuel costs have exceeded 30% of my rates.
1keto@reddit
Sorry it was 2021 I was talking about Not 2020 I corrected that above.
Well hopefully that will we'll head the other direction for all of us my friend.
supermarble94@reddit
America does not consume the oil it produces; it's not the right type. It's exported, and we import the correct type from overseas, usually middle east.
NorthDriver8927@reddit
False. The oil you guys produce is refined and then consumed. The oil you produce is the same as the oil in the Middle East. The only difference is your oil costs more because of health and safety. The reason why you guys import oil is because your consumption outweighs your production. The oil produced in the eastern states is light condensate and requires less refinement to be turned into a usable fuel than the southern and western states heavy crude but it’s all oil.
timmer2500@reddit
Yeah, just another one parroting Bullshit.
peffer32@reddit
We've pumped more oil in the last few years than any country in the history of the world. So much we have to import it to be refined because we don't have the refining capacity here. You've been lied to.
1keto@reddit
It wouldn't be the first time if I've been lied to but my wallet doesn't lie to me
peffer32@reddit
Then you've got a problem with the oil companies gouging you. Lack of drilling isn't the problem.
1keto@reddit
Of course oil companies Make extra money when they can. And anywhere they can get some extra help on that they will take
RedditAstroturfed@reddit
He'll jam through a bunch of judges to overturn the hours of service as un constitutional and if you aren't driving 12 hours a day for the same take home pay your carrier can fire you
Odin4456@reddit
I feel like construction won’t be hindered to hard by this, going to be a crazy year next year
Responsible_CDN_Duck@reddit
Materials gotta come from somewhere, and it takes time to ramp up local production to replace imports.
Odin4456@reddit
Cement powder and rocks don’t come from China
TypicalRecon@reddit
Just wait til Nucor is saying that your rolling date for the steel needed on a project in now a year later than expected. I was in the steel industry during the last trump tarrifs and a lot shops were caught with their pants down.
CrookByTheBook@reddit
If he imposes all the terrors he says he’s going to it’s gonna hurt the KontainerBroz
CTFin_Fan@reddit
What about hazardous waste & state regulated waste; those will be thinning out 🤦🏽♂️
shibbledoop@reddit
Freight was awesome 18-22. Not all of it due to his administration but some of it indirectly for sure. We will see.
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
Worldwide supply chain shortages helped that immensely, I remember 350 a mile PPE loads.
shibbledoop@reddit
Yep. 18-19 was strong too though even before Covid made everything go nuts
ResidentComplaint19@reddit
The amount of DOT numbers that have opened up since that time might be an issue.
shibbledoop@reddit
Yeah a lot of onesie twosie operators flooded the market during Covid. Many of them went underwater when freight drop but they were left with a $200k financed truck. But capacity is there once we hit the ground running. Contracted rates will probably fare better for a while before spot rates do.
ResidentComplaint19@reddit
We have the flip flop mafia out our way in the northeast. The only way I see them surviving doing non cdl car hauling is multiple drivers under the same insurance policy.
Prior-Speech-4312@reddit
It will still be same, the brokers are gonna be incharge, highway police is gonna give out more tickets, less than a dollar per mile. Stupid shippers and stupider receivers.
Eastern_East_96@reddit
Well, the good news is he's pro american made goods and anti import. The tariffs while frightening for other countries is a good thing for American businesses, especially those states with a strong workforce. That will boost the freight market.
That is in theory, what should happen but we shall see.
BitPuzzleheaded5311@reddit
We pay the tariffs with higher prices……
Eastern_East_96@reddit
But it will boost the freight economy, owner operators will make more, forcing companies to pay drivers more.
You will pay higher prices but your wage will also go up. What people don't seem to realize.
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
Thats.... not how that works. Tarriffs are a deterent, do you remember the last time trump started a tarriff war with china? Who suffered? Consumers and truck drivers because frieght slowed down due to high cost.
Altruistic-Cable-489@reddit
If energy prices come down the trucking industry will be more profitable. Only time will tell though speculation will run wild.
If I had to speculate one thing it’d be that over dimensional freight will see a surge in loads/work before anyone else. If factory start being built in the USA someone needs to haul the equipment to build it.
Valuable_Pianist9506@reddit
The mega will get bigger, their drivers will work harder. Owner opps will be forced to close shop…
Danielbbq@reddit
My company said they expected to lose runs if the election went the other way. They said, line up something else.
CaptianBrasiliano@reddit
Badly. The guy's failed at every business he's ever been involved it. He couldn't make money with a fucking casino for Christ's sake.
He blew a gigantic fortune left to him by his father but, he' managed to survive because he always works it so other people pay the freight for his bad ideas somehow. And he's totally in the pocket of giant corporations and foreign interests.
Ask a railroad worker about it. I mean, the people who own the railroads got ritcher, but their jobs pay the same and are a lot less safe.
ShineOnEveryone@reddit
You'll spend retirement working the fryer at McDonald's because there won't be any social security. That was him mocking your future at 84 years old.
SonOfKyrat@reddit
He will fuck You all into lesser than slave wages and the old heads will thank him for it while they blame the left for not being able to actually retire
rexiolvo@reddit
To soon to tell.