Can a recruiter just lie to you about pay?
Posted by Sushimaven@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 38 comments
I know recruiters try to deceive people all the time, but can they flat out say you're going to be hired on at a certain CPM, and then just not do it? I would think that would be illegal, but I'm not familiar with the laws surrounding this.
WontSwerve@reddit
I have worked at 6 different companies.
5 have outright lied about pay or equipment or routes or hours or a combination.
Different_Mousse_564@reddit
The weekly average is gross pay it’s never net pay and it can’t be accurate because of deductions it’s all a lie
OldTap9105@reddit
Werner recruiter lied to me. About half per mile as promised. Then they were shocked when I quit.
Efficient_Ostrich_54@reddit
Anyone can lie. Control is an illusion. Grow up, nut up, and handle your business.
Itchy_Psychology6678@reddit
mutha fuckin right Holmes!!!
darral27@reddit
Yes they can. They can lie about pay, benefits and bonuses. Even if you get everything in writing there is no guarantee. Look at reviews, talk to other drivers, trust your instincts.
Itchy_Psychology6678@reddit
Rooks don’t have instincts
SeaRow556@reddit
It depends on what its written on. If its actually a offer letter which has been signed by the employer and you counter signed it and returned the agreement to the employer then yes its more or less legally binding but if its just written on a napkin or a flyer/webpage then its worth nothing.
darral27@reddit
All that only matters if you have the ability, drive and an attorney willing to do something about it. As stated by someone else most people will just move on and the company will screw over the ne t sap.
Funkybeat_@reddit
The Werner recruiter told me .95CPM starting right out of school. Lol.
Reminds me when my Navy recruiter told me I could wear regular clothes to work when I got to my first duty station.
lowballbertman@reddit
lol navy recruiter and trucking recruiter, they’re one and the same.
mvamv@reddit
Recruiters are paid to get drivers to hire onto to the company. Of course they're gonna tell you what you want to hear.
JimBobPaul@reddit
Yup
FlamingoAlert7032@reddit
NEWSFLASH: the majority of recruiters for mega carriers are contractors who are not directly connected to HR and basically pass off what they have to be vetted and verified. This is uniquely by design to reduce the actual companies liability from the process of recruitment, and this also includes statements, not verified via official email from the actual company by way of offer letter..
Embarrassed-Toe3495@reddit
Another thing that could happen is the weekly pay for a position being inaccurate. For instance the position I was hired on said it was 1200 weekly. This however is if you calculate maximum hours driving with an hour per and post trip. This is also assuming that you basically have a total of 8 1/2 hours total work time each day. In reality I make 500-700 a week. This is due to irregular freight , 36 hour resets due to longer than average days, delays at shipper or unloading, or just delays in general.
dingdingdredgen@reddit
If it's not in writing, it never happened. Ifbit's not a contract, it's not enforceable. If you work in an "at will" state, your employer can just change their mind about anything and everything, and all they owe you is notice. I'm vocally mostly anti union, but in the words of Archer Sterling, "Do you want ants!? Because this is how you get ants!"
ldlong2832@reddit
Yes
Redsoxdragon@reddit
Recruiters will tell you anything to make their numbers. I wouldn't believe them even if their tongue was notarized. Only way to get them to keep a promise is to have them email you what you're expecting. That way if promises flake you have it in black and white to take action
oasuke@reddit
Yes. I had a job that paid 0.58 CPM. After the 2nd week I triggered the camera for following too close. My pay was reduced to 0.49 CPM. They never mentioned the "safety bonus" was part of the advertised pay nor did they mention it during orientation or after I triggered the camera. I only found out because I saw my next paycheck was significantly lower and saw the rate was reduced. Essentially they made it impossible to get the advertised .58 cpm.
Gonzotrucker1@reddit
I learned a long time ago not to work for companies that need recruiters. The best companies to work for don’t need them because drivers come to them.
RoadStocks@reddit
You’re better off assuming all of them do. Only believe whats written and signed.
Shit last year I went in for a gig home weekly and when I went to roll I found out it was 3 weeks out. I threw my keys and decided to be patient at home for a good job.
Dont matter how long you drive, dont put up with that shit. There is no “getting used to it” because its “trucking”. If they fuck you, you best fuck them. If they lied bad enough, leave. If they told little baby lies well its up to you, because like I said they all lie. The size of the lie is what matters
AND_Orange@reddit
Yes lol i just started a job last month and as it turns out they didnt just lie about pay, but also the benefits and PTO as well. They claimed we get paid holidays off….during training I found out from another driver that we work every single holiday. Also found out what they make on a weekly basis which is less than what the job posting advertised. Just cant win in this industry man
moldschlager@reddit
The only person who cant lie is you
Unique-Ad-2544@reddit
Yup😂 i still remember when i first applied to schneider they straight up lied to me about the pay structure. When i realized they lied i called them out and their defense was literally "do you have what we told you in writing?"
AleTheMemeDaddy@reddit
Always check your paperwork. They can promise the world, but whatever you see on the offer letter, is what you'll be getting.
If they tell you to trust them, I personally wouldnt, because they cannot be held accountable for anything outside of that paperwork.
SufficientOnestar@reddit
Most of the time they just don't have accurate information.
justmenevada@reddit
Every single day.
mrockracing@reddit
I have been. Multiple times. Is it legal? I don't know.
Don't expect anything to come of it even if it isn't.
hoarder59@reddit
If you do not have a written record of the offer then write out the terms and send it in an email to the recruiter saying "this is what we discussed as I understand it. is this correct?" Then copy anyone else you think would have authority over your pay.
StalinPaidtheClouds@reddit
Recruiters lie almost as much as politicians.
And just like for politicians, there's no consequences
jabber1990@reddit
they do all the time, a company flat out told us one time in orientation "oh, your recruiter told you that to get you in the door"
its why I never believe pay anymore, especially if its published
shhhdidyousmellthat@reddit
Yes, they do it every day.
TruckerChet1973@reddit
They'll say anything to get you to put that ring on their finger and hope you stay after you find out the truth.
AndromedanPrince@reddit
yes. even schneider has a clause in the email that the pay rates can change at any time. they can print/tell u one thing and change it whenever they want
everythangspeachie@reddit
Yes
Moocowgoesmoo@reddit
They can and will
lgmorrow@reddit
unless you see it in writing.....YES
OldBrokeGrouch@reddit
I’m sure it’s not legal, but what are you going to do? Call the police on them. They know that nobody is going to actual enforce consequences on them.