Easy, Dems need to lie more. I'm not even joking. The American public has shown that is has the attention span of a gold fish. Make shit up about your enemy say he's legally mentally impaired, say he tried to nuke Texas but his team had to stop him, Say he had an affair with a porn star. Oh wait, that one actually happened. regardless, "high road" politics are over.
Its not but people dont care at this point. He also just deflects it to "states rights" which takes some heat off him. Anyway if theres an issue to campaign on it shouldnt be abortion but rather the economy, immigration, etc all of which trump nailed ig
Watching Reddit distill these complex and nuanced issues down to "they're stupid" or "they're racist" without the slightest ounce of self-awareness has really been something.
it's way easier to just say that the Rs won so majorly (including their coveted popular vote) because everyone's just stupid rather than actually reflecting on your world view and realizing you're completely disconnected from reality
Sometimes I'm really glad to not be one of these ethically and intellectually deficient human parodies
Yeah, it'd be like claiming that the election was stolen and attempting a coup rather than actually reflecting on your world view and realizing you're completely disconnected from reality
I mean time will tell. Im a Democrat and idgaf what the results are, the people have spoken. Just feel like there will be a lot of leopardsatemyface the next 4 years.
Yeah, the supreme irony is that leftists the world over absolutely love authoritarian regimes. Here in Brazil specially they're all about how Cuba, China and Venezuela are great and democratic. You read that right: Venezuela.
Once I thought about it for a while, I realized no one that's truly authoritarian will actively diminish the state by cutting taxes, expenses, personnel, etc. That's really the only solution if you think about it. The smaller the state, smaller also is the chance of it oppressing it's citizens.
The ironic thing is Americans also used to point to Venezuela as a shining example of what this country could be if we tipped more toward socialism. When Hugo Chavez was spitting in Bush's eye he was a hero to progressives. In fact as late as his presidential campaign Bernie Sanders in his website said something to the effect of Venezuela was a great example of what socialism could be. He had to take that down around the time they started eating their dogs (actually eating dogs, not the Ohio kind).
While I genuinely feel bad for the people of Venezuela, watching the whole thing blow up as it always inevitably does was somewhat satisfying. The core tenet of socialism-esque policies is that the government knows better than the free market does when it comes to setting prices, etc. So naturally is becomes authoritarian even if it begins not that way because whoever is in power must essentially think they know best on economic policies, and must have the ability to crush the inevitable black markets, etc. Every single time it's been tried that is the result because that is human nature when given that amount of power. You are not going to find one of these countries that does not descend into that. "Democratic socialism" is an oxymoron.
The main problem imo is that people don't want to feel personally responsible for the bad condition of others. When we see that there are people who are poor, homeless, addicted, we naturally feel the urge to help, but we also understand that we couldn't solve the problem even if we tried our best. For that reason, people jump at the idea they could delegate the responsibility to someone else.
I do believe people are inclined to give in and help to some extent, otherwise humanity wouldn't have survived this long, but since we're also naturally lazy, we want to do it in the most effortless way possible. Better yet, if we can detach ourselves further from those problems and not even interact with them in any way, that's what we're going to do.
The state takes from us a great part of our financial resources and constantly makes any sort of business or work as draining as possible employing endless regulations with the excuse that it knows better and will solve bigger problems with the means it's taking from us, but it was far too ineffective to solve anything from the start.
If people don't start to develop a sense of responsibility towards themselves, their families, their communities and the whole of humanity and stop handing so much to states, things will never change.
In regards to voters that's just objectively true. Americans are dumb as hell. In my state they completely fell for an amendment that was just "ban this thing that's already illegal, and also this other completely unrelated thing"
massive cope with “our side has all the smart people” I know many educated people who don’t advertise their politics to randos or leftist circle because one side threatens them when they lose. Anon is as stupid as the pollsters and analysts and hasn’t figured it out yet.
I’ve said this a billion times, but people aren’t going to vote for them when your entire campaign is based in “well… Trump might do something REALLY bad this time! He just might!” After fucking up for the last 4 years.
I don’t like Trump at all but the DNC is an incompetent organization. This could’ve been an easy win if they actually have people reasons to vote for them.
Yup. An entire campaign based only on fear. And now that they've lost, the fear is coming home to roost. Remember that for every meltdown you see, it was caused by Democrat campaign hysteria.
As someone who lives in Argentina which is essentially Inflation-land yes the inflation in the first two years of Biden administration is 100% fault of the Orange man
That normally happens when you print money like a retard
To be fair, I think a Dem in the same position would have likely printed money too. Inflation was bad all over the world. America did way better than most countries.
It's possible the situation never would have gotten as bad as it did if it was taken seriously from the start, though.
Very early 2020 I believe, but yeah, he tried to institute a China travel ban and every news outlet called him racist and that he fell for Taiwanese propaganda
Inflation wasn’t the sole reason for the price of everything going up. Theres also the fact that Trump is a huge budget spender while also championing low taxes. He spent 8.4 trillion compared to Biden’s 4.3 trillion. So even though Trump tried to pressure the federal reserve to keep low federal rates, that won’t happen if there’s a mountain of debt on top.
The Fed printed that for the Covid relief. The longer the states were shut down the more the Fed had to keep printing. We know now that those shutdowns didn’t need to be that long. It was all just so convenient.
I always forget that the economy is only ever affected by who the current sitting president is, as soon as the election happens it resets and forgets anything that was done in the last 4 years
If the best you can offer people is "if you vote for the other guy you are a literal FASCIST" then you're cooked before the polling stations even open.
No. Not quite. We said don’t vote for the other guy because he is a literal fascist. And he is. But you just couldn’t resist voting for him, couldn’t resist it could ya. And now you’ve got him. Oooooh lucky you. Lucky, lucky you.
As a right-winger with actual fascist beliefs, Trump is not one of us. He is just another figurehead in the decadence and degeneracy that is the US.
Fascism is traditionalist reactionism--a return to the pre-enlightenment world of empires endlessly rising and falling and conquering each other. This is not the "traditional values" of the 1950s that Trump and other cuckservatives gush about; under this traditionalism, inequalities and hierarchies are welcomed; rulers are not voted in, but are either appointed by God Himself, or become so by strength.
Fascism is a rebellion against the decadent, hedonistic state of the modern world, which Trump actively takes part in. You can not support America and be a fascist, as America is the antithesis to traditionalist society. We were founded by protcucks and deists, and enlightenment values have been interwoven into our country from the very start. Our culture is corrupt; we let people partake in degenerate practices in the name of "personal autonomy." You claim that Trump is a fascist, yet he and other cuckservatives advocate for the very system that furthers this decadence and degeneracy--capitalism.
Fascists are anti empiracal and have no concrete tradition to return to other than false mirages concocted for whatever is most convenient to those who hold power.
Also Hitler was a meth addict lunatic and you should follow in his final footsteps.
Literally had four years but decided to just ignore the orange elephant in the room and did fuck all on enshrining any sort of rights, fuck em. Guess im gonna be one of those loser ass third party types if they still dont come up with any new ideas next time around.
Won House + Senate + Pres in 2020 and did fucking nothing. Now the Rs have all 3. I bet you any money they won't just sit and do nothing like Dems did with their shot.
Hey man, dont give them the senate. The DINO from WV meant they never had it. Abd that or supreme court is where everything they had fucking died. In the name of the dipshit getting reelected. And hes a fucking "independant" now because he was never even actually a dem, anyhow.
They had a 50-50; with 3 independants who usually voted with them, but 2 of those were dipshits and the third was Bernie, so only 1 of thosr independants were reliable.
The US has recovered better than anyone from covid, and is handling inflation incredibly well, without getting a recession. We have one of the least bad rent problems globally (still bad) and Harris had actually policies that cab very clearly lead to actual home ownership for the hundreds of millions who gave up on that being possible in their entire life.
America was first in the race, proceeded to get mad it didnt lap everyone and then shoot putselves in the foot out of spite because one side will just blatantly lie and when called on it get upset.
The sole debate between these candidates was highlighted with one saying that HE SAW ON TV, PEOPLE EATING DOGS.
Thats the platform. Shit that they made up. That and bomb threats. Americans dont want real solutions, the Dems didnt see that theyre supposed to just give a narrative about how theyre magical and their farts will cure all ills and that its not the individual voters fault that anything bad happens, you can blame....someone else. Anyone else.
Dems were stuck between their overwhelming need to beleive in reality, and their need to not critique capital, because americans arent ready for that.
Also such a bizarre campaign. On one hand permanent fear mongering about Fascism, muh democracy, trans genocide (whatever that’s supposed to mean) and on the other this fake cheerfulness, "brat" and the coconut tree.
How should anyone take that seriously? If you go from hitler and the last election ever to wholesome and happy in two minutes people know one of them is fake.
All Kamala had to say was "I'll do everything in my power to stop gazans from being genocided" and the election would've been a slamdunk. Too much Israeli bootlicking on both sides, so the side thats actually against it isn't going to vote.
They won’t say that because AIPAC has money in both sides, but still.
Bernie sanders came out and said something today I really agreed with. The democrats have shifted to being a party of rich social progressives and not working class people. People feel like all they care about is nonsense that doesn’t affect them, so they purposefully vote Trump because he represents a time when they actually had money and could afford things. They want change so they voted a guy who promised it. You’ve alienated the people whose votes actually matter by dismissing them and not understanding why people voted Trump in the first place.
But no, let’s post more astroturfed Charlie XCX memes and scream “WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING AGAINST THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!!!!!” 80 thousand times over. DNC staffers have actual brain worms.
Yea acting like everyone is dumb was my first reaction but that just isn't case. People are voting in their interest, its just sad to see where those interests have wound up because democrats want to have their cake and eat it too. All we need to do is truly embody becoming the people's party and that's all it takes. They don't want to bother with that though, just more faux progressive bullshit while sweeping the real issues under the rug.
I live in a red state and we just put abortion into the constitution as well. At this point, politicians might actually have to campaign on doing something instead of the typical culture war bullshit we've seen for 3 decades.
Well, if you base your rhetoric on blaming the opponent for things that he's not even in power to do them, while you're in position of power (the fucking Vice President) then don't expect going further than your background. Let alone becoming the President.
Except that people don't vote for celebrities or economists or whatnot, they vote for policies (at least in a perfect world) and the best democrats could offer is the status quo
Zero self awareness. Zero clarity. Zero grounding in reality.
They’ll never know because they’ve never heard the world outside of their echo chambers. The delusional cope is in full swing and will be until the end of time
I actually think that hurt them so much. I think Kamala would have been the better choice, but every time I see some far left extremist being an insufferable cunt, I want them to be wrong. The far right are regards too, but at least they're entertaining
Actually if ya'll both weren't equally insufferable then that might have actually made people give a fuck enough to actually not be ashamed enough to side with one and vote. Plenty of rightoids here are still trying to hide the fact that they're rightoids and not centrists that just prefer trump cuz itd be funny if he won. I wonder why that is.
Did you see the story of Ana kasparian getting sexually assaulted? She’s doing a stunning and brave media tour recently about leaving “the left” because of it now - 2 fucking years after it happened. 2 years. It wasn’t getting molested that caused her to leave or the person that did it to her that she was most upset with to party exit.
"This country made a decision based on irrational fears"
- the same party that fearmongered during trumps previous president and is currently fearmongering
Republicans have been saying Democrats have been saying these things for the past 40 years. But somehow, they never happen. If you only listen to Republicans then yes, democrats have been saying they're coming for your guns, jobs, to trans your kids, etc...
Yeah wtf, if 70% of the rich media owners, rich celebrities and people like dick cheney are behind you, your opponent got my vote. The people that got more to lose with actual change are exactly them lmao. So why would they endorse actual change?
Classic left-wing classism. The right appeals to working class sentiment, call it "populism" in the cynical sense but I'd take that over a group that doesn't even pretend to care what ordinary people think
Libs straight up refuse to take any blame and immediately cast blame on any outliers who are just part of the symptoms of the current party.
So much hubris, like why can't they except that there might be something wrong that causing them to fail in multiple campaigns.
Their last win came on tiny margins, had an extremely unpopular administration and they think that they can win again with barely any change? What in the fuck are they smoking
Imagine thinking whatever bot infested bullshit on Twitter is actually representative of democrats. Peak irony, literally showing why Republicans won. The average American is a retard that believes what they see online.
They spent too much time being smarmy assholes blaming everyone but themselves.
I still laugh my ass off when they blame people like the Bernie voters. Like oh that neo liberal cock being rammed down their throat is really draining their thought capacity.
That’s what happens when you have manchildren raised on marvel soy
They start to see the world in black and white. They the heroes obviously in their manchild minds and trump supporters are the nazi zombies. Even as much as i dislike the average leftist, I’m not going around calling everyone who disagrees with me a stalin supporters or commie
Would have helped to have primaries and not the bizarre bait and switch. Dems should have been pressuring Joe to not run over a year ago. He should have never seen a debate the second time around.
Just let the corpse of Biden run and refuse debates and public appearances. I still don’t believe that stuff even matters anyways. See: Kamala winning the one debate
He’s right in that regard. But he’s forgotten that… it’s not about endorsements or anything else. Republicans sold an easy message “forget about the pandemic that wasn’t my fault [trump], but the inflation that resulted was the democrats fault.”
Pretty simple message.
And then there’s the racist eating dogs and cats shit too. But Americans don’t really care about that anymore given that reconstruction failed in America.
They will never understand... I do not support liberal/leftist ideological projects becouse those people are insufferable, they constantly talk about extremely minoritarian issues that are irrelevant to me, and they hate what I like and value...
Yeah the insufferable people alone are enough to keep me far far away from them. Then you have their gross incompetence, moral bankruptcy, and elitism to add on top
Where they fucked up was the fact that they failed the working class. I understand the need for social acceptance and progress, but they did too much shit too fast and forgot to actually implement policies that help people who aren't part of a tiny demographic. They should have slowed down for a while after they got Gay marriage rights figured out and allowed the population to slowly accept it before kicking things into gear again. Instead, they went and shit out these ideas full-force and wonder why the backslash is hitting their ass.
Stop being babies. Nothing will happen and this is fucking normal. The political pendulum will swing to the left in 4 years. Same thing happened after reagan and bush bill clinton happened, after bill it was bush, and after bush it was obama and after obama it was trump and after trump it was biden and after biden it was trump.
A blowout like this is probably going to make the left reevaluate their strategy. Id politics aren’t working for them even with the amount of paid shills in all forms of media
What blowout? It literally just the pendulum swinging back because of inflation. People are retarded and will blame the guy in the white house. see in 2026 and 2028.
Ignorance: believing their candidate is appealing to critical thinkers, who found her irritating, incompetent, and disingenuous
Hate: feeling the exact way about conservatives that they honestly believe conservatives feel about minorities, when it turns out that lots of minorities are conservatives, who were insulted by this, and a heap of other patronizing behavior, like saying that black people can't get IDs
Irrational fears: Trump will ban abortion, when, last year, scotus made abortion a states rights issue, permanently removing it from the federal purview, and making it a state-by-state issue. They can not possibly have forgotten that this happened.
I'm not even arguing for or against abortion, but this is like being explained which door is the entrance and which is the exit, and then using the wrong one anyway.
Yes, unironically yes. Apparently nobody cares about politicians lying anyways so they should have just made up some bold, provocative, stupid lies that got people excited to vote. Get in office, pretend you never promised anything, people forget about it in half a term. Rinse and repeat.
GrassBlade619@reddit
Easy, Dems need to lie more. I'm not even joking. The American public has shown that is has the attention span of a gold fish. Make shit up about your enemy say he's legally mentally impaired, say he tried to nuke Texas but his team had to stop him, Say he had an affair with a porn star. Oh wait, that one actually happened. regardless, "high road" politics are over.
Secure-Cucumber8705@reddit
They tried this but all they could come up with was muh womens rights and literally hitler
Meanwhile trump is rambling about arnold palmers cock at rallies
GrassBlade619@reddit
How was the woman's rights thing a lie? He literally repealed abortion protections.
Secure-Cucumber8705@reddit
Its not but people dont care at this point. He also just deflects it to "states rights" which takes some heat off him. Anyway if theres an issue to campaign on it shouldnt be abortion but rather the economy, immigration, etc all of which trump nailed ig
AgentSkidMarks@reddit
Watching Reddit distill these complex and nuanced issues down to "they're stupid" or "they're racist" without the slightest ounce of self-awareness has really been something.
StarvingCommunists@reddit
it's way easier to just say that the Rs won so majorly (including their coveted popular vote) because everyone's just stupid rather than actually reflecting on your world view and realizing you're completely disconnected from reality
Sometimes I'm really glad to not be one of these ethically and intellectually deficient human parodies
JackC747@reddit
Yeah, it'd be like claiming that the election was stolen and attempting a coup rather than actually reflecting on your world view and realizing you're completely disconnected from reality
Pfizer-Soze@reddit
Opinion void, go stand in the corner
JackC747@reddit
You’re right, my bad. I should’ve said it was an attempted coup
Pfizer-Soze@reddit
CAPITOL HILL AUTONMOUS ZONE CAPITOL HILL OCCUPIED PROTEST BURNING AND LOOTING OF MINNEAPOLIS RACE RIOTS 2020
Dems: Summer of love 2020 ❤️ 🌈 You’re a bigot if you disagree 💅
JackC747@reddit
I mean yeah? Pretty much that's what happened? Do you think this is a gotcha for some reason?
Are you going to answer my question?
StarvingCommunists@reddit
Bro did not just say that shit and then act like he's connected to reality 💀
Boring_Cake_3554@reddit
Wow I guess you'll reply to every top comment huh? Must be truly assblasted to be all over the thread like this lol
InquisitorMeow@reddit
I mean time will tell. Im a Democrat and idgaf what the results are, the people have spoken. Just feel like there will be a lot of leopardsatemyface the next 4 years.
JojiImpersonator@reddit
There's no nuance, either you agree with me or you want to destroy democracy
DappyDee@reddit
Middle ground? What is that? Is it edible?
Nintra@reddit
It's where the people go when they are banned.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
It’s in my ass.
AgentSkidMarks@reddit
And the Democrats were so worried about this threat to democracy that they staged a coup
JojiImpersonator@reddit
Yeah, the supreme irony is that leftists the world over absolutely love authoritarian regimes. Here in Brazil specially they're all about how Cuba, China and Venezuela are great and democratic. You read that right: Venezuela.
Once I thought about it for a while, I realized no one that's truly authoritarian will actively diminish the state by cutting taxes, expenses, personnel, etc. That's really the only solution if you think about it. The smaller the state, smaller also is the chance of it oppressing it's citizens.
jmarFTL@reddit
The ironic thing is Americans also used to point to Venezuela as a shining example of what this country could be if we tipped more toward socialism. When Hugo Chavez was spitting in Bush's eye he was a hero to progressives. In fact as late as his presidential campaign Bernie Sanders in his website said something to the effect of Venezuela was a great example of what socialism could be. He had to take that down around the time they started eating their dogs (actually eating dogs, not the Ohio kind).
While I genuinely feel bad for the people of Venezuela, watching the whole thing blow up as it always inevitably does was somewhat satisfying. The core tenet of socialism-esque policies is that the government knows better than the free market does when it comes to setting prices, etc. So naturally is becomes authoritarian even if it begins not that way because whoever is in power must essentially think they know best on economic policies, and must have the ability to crush the inevitable black markets, etc. Every single time it's been tried that is the result because that is human nature when given that amount of power. You are not going to find one of these countries that does not descend into that. "Democratic socialism" is an oxymoron.
JojiImpersonator@reddit
The main problem imo is that people don't want to feel personally responsible for the bad condition of others. When we see that there are people who are poor, homeless, addicted, we naturally feel the urge to help, but we also understand that we couldn't solve the problem even if we tried our best. For that reason, people jump at the idea they could delegate the responsibility to someone else.
I do believe people are inclined to give in and help to some extent, otherwise humanity wouldn't have survived this long, but since we're also naturally lazy, we want to do it in the most effortless way possible. Better yet, if we can detach ourselves further from those problems and not even interact with them in any way, that's what we're going to do.
The state takes from us a great part of our financial resources and constantly makes any sort of business or work as draining as possible employing endless regulations with the excuse that it knows better and will solve bigger problems with the means it's taking from us, but it was far too ineffective to solve anything from the start.
If people don't start to develop a sense of responsibility towards themselves, their families, their communities and the whole of humanity and stop handing so much to states, things will never change.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
In regards to voters that's just objectively true. Americans are dumb as hell. In my state they completely fell for an amendment that was just "ban this thing that's already illegal, and also this other completely unrelated thing"
IllCommunityy@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
SalvationSycamore@reddit
Tell what? That I have no life? You don't need to click my username to find that out I'm posting comments on r/4chan for Christ's sake.
IllCommunityy@reddit
cope
McWeaksauce91@reddit
And everyone thinks they’re so much smarter than the other.
Puzzled-Letterhead-1@reddit
massive cope with “our side has all the smart people” I know many educated people who don’t advertise their politics to randos or leftist circle because one side threatens them when they lose. Anon is as stupid as the pollsters and analysts and hasn’t figured it out yet.
BidenAndElmo@reddit
I’ve said this a billion times, but people aren’t going to vote for them when your entire campaign is based in “well… Trump might do something REALLY bad this time! He just might!” After fucking up for the last 4 years.
I don’t like Trump at all but the DNC is an incompetent organization. This could’ve been an easy win if they actually have people reasons to vote for them.
back_reggin@reddit
Yup. An entire campaign based only on fear. And now that they've lost, the fear is coming home to roost. Remember that for every meltdown you see, it was caused by Democrat campaign hysteria.
Burrito_Salesman@reddit
The cost of everything has almost doubled in the last 4 years, but it's still cheeto man's fault...Because it just is.
The_User76@reddit
As someone who lives in Argentina which is essentially Inflation-land yes the inflation in the first two years of Biden administration is 100% fault of the Orange man That normally happens when you print money like a retard
Redditbecamefacebook@reddit
To be fair, I think a Dem in the same position would have likely printed money too. Inflation was bad all over the world. America did way better than most countries.
It's possible the situation never would have gotten as bad as it did if it was taken seriously from the start, though.
What if games.
ked-taczynski05@reddit
What's funny is, when he started taking it seriously and issuing travel bands the left called him racist
Salticracker@reddit
funny how people conveniently forget that. Whay was it, Fall 2019 he wanted to ban flights from China?
ked-taczynski05@reddit
Very early 2020 I believe, but yeah, he tried to institute a China travel ban and every news outlet called him racist and that he fell for Taiwanese propaganda
IllCommunityy@reddit
Opinion immediately discarded.
WorldCop@reddit
Inflation wasn’t the sole reason for the price of everything going up. Theres also the fact that Trump is a huge budget spender while also championing low taxes. He spent 8.4 trillion compared to Biden’s 4.3 trillion. So even though Trump tried to pressure the federal reserve to keep low federal rates, that won’t happen if there’s a mountain of debt on top.
Shotgun_Sentinel@reddit
The Fed printed that for the Covid relief. The longer the states were shut down the more the Fed had to keep printing. We know now that those shutdowns didn’t need to be that long. It was all just so convenient.
JackC747@reddit
I always forget that the economy is only ever affected by who the current sitting president is, as soon as the election happens it resets and forgets anything that was done in the last 4 years
Boring_Cake_3554@reddit
Biden fed spending was over 2x trump's fed spending cope seethe dilate harder dumbass
am2549@reddit
Lol the Trump campaign is literally fear. Of wokeness, immigrants, change.
DappyDee@reddit
They set their own bed, now there is no choice left but to sleep in it.
Unless they preffer the cold, hard floor. That's always an option on the metaphorical table.
koala-69@reddit
If the best you can offer people is "if you vote for the other guy you are a literal FASCIST" then you're cooked before the polling stations even open.
MyDogisDaft@reddit
No. Not quite. We said don’t vote for the other guy because he is a literal fascist. And he is. But you just couldn’t resist voting for him, couldn’t resist it could ya. And now you’ve got him. Oooooh lucky you. Lucky, lucky you.
StarvingCommunists@reddit
trump is a fascist because... HE JUST IS, OKAY?
redbloodywedding@reddit
He's a fascist because he had a rally at Madison Square Garden jeez get your facts straight.
StarvingCommunists@reddit
Crap, you're right. I forgot about... holding rallies at Madison square garden. The prime characteristic of a fascist.
encrustingXacro@reddit
As a right-winger with actual fascist beliefs, Trump is not one of us. He is just another figurehead in the decadence and degeneracy that is the US.
Fascism is traditionalist reactionism--a return to the pre-enlightenment world of empires endlessly rising and falling and conquering each other. This is not the "traditional values" of the 1950s that Trump and other cuckservatives gush about; under this traditionalism, inequalities and hierarchies are welcomed; rulers are not voted in, but are either appointed by God Himself, or become so by strength.
Fascism is a rebellion against the decadent, hedonistic state of the modern world, which Trump actively takes part in. You can not support America and be a fascist, as America is the antithesis to traditionalist society. We were founded by protcucks and deists, and enlightenment values have been interwoven into our country from the very start. Our culture is corrupt; we let people partake in degenerate practices in the name of "personal autonomy." You claim that Trump is a fascist, yet he and other cuckservatives advocate for the very system that furthers this decadence and degeneracy--capitalism.
bongnandan@reddit
Based fascist bro. I would vote for you.
kewl_guy9193@reddit
That would be anti fascist tho
SINGULARITY1312@reddit
Fascists are anti empiracal and have no concrete tradition to return to other than false mirages concocted for whatever is most convenient to those who hold power.
Also Hitler was a meth addict lunatic and you should follow in his final footsteps.
encrustingXacro@reddit
Hitler wad a natsoc revisionist; I don't subscribe to his version of "fascism." I'm more of an Evola type of guy
EurasianDumplings@reddit
Finally, some fucking OG basement-lord to clarify the word has a meaning that's not simply "everyone whom disagrees with me from the rightwing."
MBAfail@reddit
Fascism is starting to sound pretty good. Maybe it's not all bad if Trump goes even half as fascist as the degenerate left claim he will.
Shadarbiter@reddit
Based and crust busted by hitler pilled.
Escenze@reddit
"Everyone I disagree with is a fascist because Im too braindead to think for myself" -you
reallyradguy@reddit
Dude your slang and lingo is very British. I doubt you live in America, why is any of this your concern?
BotAccount2849@reddit
Euros feel the need to butt in because they're American vassals.
Also-Alpharius@reddit
So hecking true my redditbro
l3gion666@reddit
Literally had four years but decided to just ignore the orange elephant in the room and did fuck all on enshrining any sort of rights, fuck em. Guess im gonna be one of those loser ass third party types if they still dont come up with any new ideas next time around.
Salticracker@reddit
Won House + Senate + Pres in 2020 and did fucking nothing. Now the Rs have all 3. I bet you any money they won't just sit and do nothing like Dems did with their shot.
LoLFlore@reddit
Hey man, dont give them the senate. The DINO from WV meant they never had it. Abd that or supreme court is where everything they had fucking died. In the name of the dipshit getting reelected. And hes a fucking "independant" now because he was never even actually a dem, anyhow.
They had a 50-50; with 3 independants who usually voted with them, but 2 of those were dipshits and the third was Bernie, so only 1 of thosr independants were reliable.
LoLFlore@reddit
They measurably have not messed up, though.
The US has recovered better than anyone from covid, and is handling inflation incredibly well, without getting a recession. We have one of the least bad rent problems globally (still bad) and Harris had actually policies that cab very clearly lead to actual home ownership for the hundreds of millions who gave up on that being possible in their entire life.
America was first in the race, proceeded to get mad it didnt lap everyone and then shoot putselves in the foot out of spite because one side will just blatantly lie and when called on it get upset.
The sole debate between these candidates was highlighted with one saying that HE SAW ON TV, PEOPLE EATING DOGS.
Thats the platform. Shit that they made up. That and bomb threats. Americans dont want real solutions, the Dems didnt see that theyre supposed to just give a narrative about how theyre magical and their farts will cure all ills and that its not the individual voters fault that anything bad happens, you can blame....someone else. Anyone else.
Dems were stuck between their overwhelming need to beleive in reality, and their need to not critique capital, because americans arent ready for that.
They were fucked from the start.
Svitii@reddit
Also such a bizarre campaign. On one hand permanent fear mongering about Fascism, muh democracy, trans genocide (whatever that’s supposed to mean) and on the other this fake cheerfulness, "brat" and the coconut tree.
How should anyone take that seriously? If you go from hitler and the last election ever to wholesome and happy in two minutes people know one of them is fake.
Turns out both were fake.
Brilliant-Mountain57@reddit
All Kamala had to say was "I'll do everything in my power to stop gazans from being genocided" and the election would've been a slamdunk. Too much Israeli bootlicking on both sides, so the side thats actually against it isn't going to vote.
DonnieMoistX@reddit
Not even close. The average American does not give a fuck.
BidenAndElmo@reddit
They won’t say that because AIPAC has money in both sides, but still.
Bernie sanders came out and said something today I really agreed with. The democrats have shifted to being a party of rich social progressives and not working class people. People feel like all they care about is nonsense that doesn’t affect them, so they purposefully vote Trump because he represents a time when they actually had money and could afford things. They want change so they voted a guy who promised it. You’ve alienated the people whose votes actually matter by dismissing them and not understanding why people voted Trump in the first place.
But no, let’s post more astroturfed Charlie XCX memes and scream “WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING AGAINST THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!!!!!” 80 thousand times over. DNC staffers have actual brain worms.
magusx17@reddit
Shut up Latinx, BIPOC, LGTqIA+. We care about you as long as you're not a straight white male!!
Brilliant-Mountain57@reddit
Yea acting like everyone is dumb was my first reaction but that just isn't case. People are voting in their interest, its just sad to see where those interests have wound up because democrats want to have their cake and eat it too. All we need to do is truly embody becoming the people's party and that's all it takes. They don't want to bother with that though, just more faux progressive bullshit while sweeping the real issues under the rug.
Dchella@reddit
It was never an easy win for Kamala.
The entire election revolved around, “I went to the store and a dozen eggs cost me $32.”
Redditbecamefacebook@reddit
I live in a red state and we just put abortion into the constitution as well. At this point, politicians might actually have to campaign on doing something instead of the typical culture war bullshit we've seen for 3 decades.
Super-Soyuz@reddit
It doesn't really matter what you say so much as if the prices of cheeseburgers and gas are high your fucked
Dems are just objectively right when they say that Trump is bad, and his VP now straight up wouldn't certify the votes on the next jan 6th
thestoicnutcracker@reddit
Well, if you base your rhetoric on blaming the opponent for things that he's not even in power to do them, while you're in position of power (the fucking Vice President) then don't expect going further than your background. Let alone becoming the President.
kewl_guy9193@reddit
Except that people don't vote for celebrities or economists or whatnot, they vote for policies (at least in a perfect world) and the best democrats could offer is the status quo
for_the_meme_watch@reddit
Democrats are insufferable.
Zero self awareness. Zero clarity. Zero grounding in reality.
They’ll never know because they’ve never heard the world outside of their echo chambers. The delusional cope is in full swing and will be until the end of time
GreeceZeus@reddit
Their argument basically is "Harris was supported by ALL the elites but for some reason they didn't want to vote for her? Are they stupid?".
MyDogIsDaBest@reddit
>Democrats are insufferable
I actually think that hurt them so much. I think Kamala would have been the better choice, but every time I see some far left extremist being an insufferable cunt, I want them to be wrong. The far right are regards too, but at least they're entertaining
Link941@reddit
Actually if ya'll both weren't equally insufferable then that might have actually made people give a fuck enough to actually not be ashamed enough to side with one and vote. Plenty of rightoids here are still trying to hide the fact that they're rightoids and not centrists that just prefer trump cuz itd be funny if he won. I wonder why that is.
MyDogisDaft@reddit
Oh yes they’re entertaining. You bloody child!
Metarch@reddit
Ghost_Ship4567@reddit
Be funnier next time
MyDogisDaft@reddit
God this is rich. Echo chambers. The irony is off the wall.
Brilliant-Mountain57@reddit
Complaining about echochambers on r/4chan is wild lol
Boring_Cake_3554@reddit
Notice that you have not been banned for posing a dissenting opinion. You would have been on news/politics subreddits for doing so.
So yes actually this subreddit is far less of an echo chamber than most major news oriented subreddits. Cry more you pissbaby dipshit
MyDogisDaft@reddit
Frankly it’s the gas chambers I am worried about.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
It’ll happen this time bro we swear 🤣
SalvationSycamore@reddit
Have you ever been to any of the conservative subs? The only difference is the volume of users.
opticrice@reddit
Did you see the story of Ana kasparian getting sexually assaulted? She’s doing a stunning and brave media tour recently about leaving “the left” because of it now - 2 fucking years after it happened. 2 years. It wasn’t getting molested that caused her to leave or the person that did it to her that she was most upset with to party exit.
electric-guitar@reddit
"This country made a decision based on irrational fears" - the same party that fearmongered during trumps previous president and is currently fearmongering
Link941@reddit
Oh yeah, because thats the only party that fearmongers.
tmhoc@reddit
"DeamonRats"
"Der cum'n fer er guns"
"Migrants Caravan!"
Shotgun_Sentinel@reddit
“They are going to make women give birth to their father’s baby. “
“They will allow Russia to conquer Europe.”
“They will genocide Palestine.”
“They are going to take your illegal immigrants voting rights away”
“They are going to deport all immigrants especially if they are brown.”
“They will make black people slaves again.”
Rambozo77@reddit
Literally just today I saw “they’re going to round up trans people and put them in concentration camps.”
AlucardFromCastle@reddit
Brother all these stopped being irrational when they're telling you that's what they're going to do
GrassBlade619@reddit
Republicans have been saying Democrats have been saying these things for the past 40 years. But somehow, they never happen. If you only listen to Republicans then yes, democrats have been saying they're coming for your guns, jobs, to trans your kids, etc...
Shotgun_Sentinel@reddit
Not for lack of trying regard. They try but fail due to the fight against them.
GrassBlade619@reddit
Yeah. That must be it... Fuck this country is filled with morons.
Shotgun_Sentinel@reddit
Yeah, and you are one of them.
GrassBlade619@reddit
Damn, sick burn brother.
AlucardFromCastle@reddit
So how many illegal immigrants are coming in right now?
Didn't new York just had their poopy gun laws taken away from infringing on the second? So it did happen.
uconn3386@reddit
https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf
No thanks
AlucardFromCastle@reddit
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uconn3386@reddit
Replying to the one above you might have mis-clicked on your post instead
Robot__Engineer@reddit
Beyonce and fucking Dick Cheney lmao. "What else could we have done?!?"
oh_mygawdd@reddit
The Dick Cheney endorsement really was something. The last person I'd like to be represented by is a war criminal. Good lord.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
For some reason Democrats thought it would win over Republicans lol
CptSandbag73@reddit
I think, more specifically, Democrats thought it would win over pop-culture addicted, social-media addicted teenagers and clueless centrists.
I don’t think they’re stupid enough to have believed that JLo and Diddy were going to win over Cletus and his shotgun.
MyDogisDaft@reddit
Would that be the same war criminal that every fucking republican lauded for 8 years? Would it? He is an evil man but even he draws the line at Trump.
Adept-Eggplant-8673@reddit
Uhhh no republicans did not laud Cheney nor does him supporting Harris somehow give y’all a bonus
QuesoPluma123@reddit
Yeah wtf, if 70% of the rich media owners, rich celebrities and people like dick cheney are behind you, your opponent got my vote. The people that got more to lose with actual change are exactly them lmao. So why would they endorse actual change?
FremanBloodglaive@reddit
"So? You're telling me this person I despise is endorsing someone else I despise? That's... something I guess."
Nutaholic@reddit
I need to see dick Cheney and Beyonce exchange a tearful embrace as they mourn together.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Lmao. The economy must be booming
Killed their reputation with the clot shot shilling for big pharma and heinz 57 genders
No one cares what they think
Lmaoo
XxX_Banevader_XxX@reddit
the economy is booming
METAL___HEART@reddit
Classic left-wing classism. The right appeals to working class sentiment, call it "populism" in the cynical sense but I'd take that over a group that doesn't even pretend to care what ordinary people think
Lorvaire@reddit
I'm simply not going to vote for a woman president. There, I said it. Fuck you, down vote me.
sokocanuck@reddit
They could have voted.
swiftyb@reddit
Libs straight up refuse to take any blame and immediately cast blame on any outliers who are just part of the symptoms of the current party.
So much hubris, like why can't they except that there might be something wrong that causing them to fail in multiple campaigns.
Their last win came on tiny margins, had an extremely unpopular administration and they think that they can win again with barely any change? What in the fuck are they smoking
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
Watch as the hysteria kicks in. It already has. Reddit and Xitter have gone full on Nazi against Latinos/Blacks/Asians for low turnouts for Kamala.
You'd think they would've learnt something from 2016.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Imagine thinking whatever bot infested bullshit on Twitter is actually representative of democrats. Peak irony, literally showing why Republicans won. The average American is a retard that believes what they see online.
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
I'm not a Republican I'm not even American, snowflake
"Everyone I don't like is not a real democrat"
Go mald Redditor. Trump won Deal with it :D
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Whose malding or even talking about Trump? I'm calling out your retarded ass for using Twitter, youre the one who wants to gargle his balls.
Secure-Cucumber8705@reddit
Remember the "proof" of voter fraud and rigging? Oh wait trump won lol nothings wrong!
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Who said anything about voter fraud and rigging? You illiterate?
swiftyb@reddit
They spent too much time being smarmy assholes blaming everyone but themselves.
I still laugh my ass off when they blame people like the Bernie voters. Like oh that neo liberal cock being rammed down their throat is really draining their thought capacity.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
That’s what happens when you have manchildren raised on marvel soy
They start to see the world in black and white. They the heroes obviously in their manchild minds and trump supporters are the nazi zombies. Even as much as i dislike the average leftist, I’m not going around calling everyone who disagrees with me a stalin supporters or commie
It’s not hubris. Just retardation
oby100@reddit
Would have helped to have primaries and not the bizarre bait and switch. Dems should have been pressuring Joe to not run over a year ago. He should have never seen a debate the second time around.
Just let the corpse of Biden run and refuse debates and public appearances. I still don’t believe that stuff even matters anyways. See: Kamala winning the one debate
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
If anything forcing out Joe lost them the undead demographic.
Condiment_Kong@reddit
So that’s why they got 20 million less votes this time, those damn lazy corpses
Secure-Cucumber8705@reddit
He was practically forced out and hes probably still hung up over it.
MarinLlwyd@reddit
If she got bodied by a muscle mommy, America would have voted for her.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
Let's hope she learns from her mistake
FraudulentBaldy@reddit
SK anons have been very based on /pol/ recently. Looks like 4B is working, though not in the intended way
AnalysisParalysis85@reddit
They could have gone with Bernie in 2016 and none of this shit would have happened.
Vegetable-Visual-767@reddit
"You guys have phones, right"
feckshite@reddit
has Cardi B perform at their rallies
LineRemote7950@reddit
He’s right in that regard. But he’s forgotten that… it’s not about endorsements or anything else. Republicans sold an easy message “forget about the pandemic that wasn’t my fault [trump], but the inflation that resulted was the democrats fault.”
Pretty simple message.
And then there’s the racist eating dogs and cats shit too. But Americans don’t really care about that anymore given that reconstruction failed in America.
Hubertino855@reddit
They will never understand... I do not support liberal/leftist ideological projects becouse those people are insufferable, they constantly talk about extremely minoritarian issues that are irrelevant to me, and they hate what I like and value...
mookyvon@reddit
Yep. Can’t wait to see an end to wokeness and DEI garbage.
CheapPlastic2722@reddit
Yeah the insufferable people alone are enough to keep me far far away from them. Then you have their gross incompetence, moral bankruptcy, and elitism to add on top
leastemployableman@reddit
Where they fucked up was the fact that they failed the working class. I understand the need for social acceptance and progress, but they did too much shit too fast and forgot to actually implement policies that help people who aren't part of a tiny demographic. They should have slowed down for a while after they got Gay marriage rights figured out and allowed the population to slowly accept it before kicking things into gear again. Instead, they went and shit out these ideas full-force and wonder why the backslash is hitting their ass.
Shotgun_Sentinel@reddit
The day after the gay marriage decision they went on about a Transgender bathroom bill.
Tom-Pendragon@reddit
Stop being babies. Nothing will happen and this is fucking normal. The political pendulum will swing to the left in 4 years. Same thing happened after reagan and bush bill clinton happened, after bill it was bush, and after bush it was obama and after obama it was trump and after trump it was biden and after biden it was trump.
nothing ever happens.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
A blowout like this is probably going to make the left reevaluate their strategy. Id politics aren’t working for them even with the amount of paid shills in all forms of media
Tom-Pendragon@reddit
What blowout? It literally just the pendulum swinging back because of inflation. People are retarded and will blame the guy in the white house. see in 2026 and 2028.
Sledgecrowbar@reddit
Liberalism c.2024, stated with perfect accuracy.
Ignorance: believing their candidate is appealing to critical thinkers, who found her irritating, incompetent, and disingenuous
Hate: feeling the exact way about conservatives that they honestly believe conservatives feel about minorities, when it turns out that lots of minorities are conservatives, who were insulted by this, and a heap of other patronizing behavior, like saying that black people can't get IDs
Irrational fears: Trump will ban abortion, when, last year, scotus made abortion a states rights issue, permanently removing it from the federal purview, and making it a state-by-state issue. They can not possibly have forgotten that this happened.
I'm not even arguing for or against abortion, but this is like being explained which door is the entrance and which is the exit, and then using the wrong one anyway.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
Yes, unironically yes. Apparently nobody cares about politicians lying anyways so they should have just made up some bold, provocative, stupid lies that got people excited to vote. Get in office, pretend you never promised anything, people forget about it in half a term. Rinse and repeat.
StarvingCommunists@reddit
"correct track record"
what?
callofthepuddle@reddit
my parents raised me to always vote for whoever the hulkster says to because he's a real american who fights for what's right
MyDogisDaft@reddit
lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
victor4700@reddit
Hmm yes shallow and pedantic
DefiancePlays@reddit
They lost because they didn't call Trump supporters facists enough.
SchismZero@reddit
Democrats try not to act like elitist snobs challenge: Impossible
BasilExposition2@reddit
Didn’t sell stupid? They literally brought Cardi B on stage and the teleprompter broke and she didn’t know what to do.
LnDxLeo@reddit
Time and time again the rule "go woke go broke" is proving itself on many fields.
JasminTheManSlayer@reddit
Should have gotten John Cena
Arxusanion@reddit
DAYUM THE KOREAN GOT A FLAMETHROWER
Ur_Glog@reddit
Hulk Hogan 2028!