We did not do well this year.
Posted by No-Enthusiasm9619@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 37 comments
As of right now, Jill Stein and RFK Jr. have more votes than Chase Oliver. We need to put out better candidates. My first election was Gary Johnson, he was a great candidate and that year it felt like we had a chance to get on the stage and debate. We have to do better next election cycle.
Phantasmidine@reddit
Doesn't matter who gets put up as a candidate. Until libertarians STFU about abortion, they'll remain completely irrelevant on the sidelines.
Turin-The-Turtle@reddit
I think libertarians are pretty split on that subject, so don’t really know what you mean by that.
Phantasmidine@reddit
Doesn't matter if we're split on it.
The fact remains, not shutting the fuck up about abortion 100% causes potential political allies to run away from libertarianism like their hair is on fire.
It's a toxic poison pill issue that will keep us sidelined and irrelevant.
cluskillz@reddit
Well...if a libertarian really gets a spot in the cabinet and Ross Ulbricht is freed, we will have done better this year than any year I've been in the LP. I'll take 0.4% and a cabinet position + saving a libertarian's life over 3% of the vote total any day. Of course, I'd rather have 3% and those things, but...that wasn't one of the options.
BenjaminAnthony@reddit
We'll do better once the party doesn't elect Democrats posing as Libertarians.
Beginning-Town-7609@reddit
Your comment steals the show for explaining how we did so poorly this cycle. I had to grit my teeth and vote for Trump lest two socialists assumed power.
confederate_yankee@reddit
This ⬆️ 💯
clarkstud@reddit
If Trump eliminates the income tax, I’d say we did pretty good.
iroll20s@reddit
They didn't even make the ballot in my state. Hard to get votes if you have to write in.
Tall_Guy865@reddit
My state either.
Famous_Historian3251@reddit
I wrote in you tbh
BeeDub57000@reddit
More of us need to get involved in nominating the Libertarian candidate. I honestly don't know how Chase made it as far as he did.
Tall_Guy865@reddit
Yes!
Secure-Apple-5793@reddit
Dave smith 2028
OutsideTLane@reddit
If Paul actually gets a role in cabinet that is a huge success.
SneakyRickyy@reddit
Think he will. Libertarians voted for Trump. It’s on Trump and his team to honor their word.
DerpDerper909@reddit
Vivek is pretty Libertarian
johno158@reddit
Yes, Trump and his team noted for keeping their word and paying their debts
MWFan1983@reddit
Yep, how the whole tariff and government spending situation plays out in the next 4 years is going to determine whether or not the next GOP candidate gets the same type of libertarian support in 2028.
confederate_yankee@reddit
💯
mr0ziggy@reddit
I didn't even hear about Chase Oliver until 2 days before the election. I'm sure most people didn't know about him until they were voting.
Just need to figure out how to get the word out to a broader audience.
HeatherAnne1975@reddit
We did not do well as a party, but I’m happy Trump won. I think he’s surrounding himself with people who will advance our principles (just hearing Ron Paul’s name makes me happy!).
joedapper@reddit
Chase Oliver was not even on the ballot in Illinois. So much for me getting the most signatures in McLean County, IL to get Ron Paul on the ballot in '12. Guess all that effort was for nothing going forward.
the_kfcrispy@reddit
Dude, Libertarians are able to influence the nation more than ever with Trump in office. RFK Jr will be unleashed on the FDA, and Ron Paul may have a significant role in DOGE!
GuyBannister1@reddit
The LP is a massive joke. They roll out this failed Democrat. I voted for him only for the final tally.
BigAl265@reddit
That’s why I left the party. I’m a strong believer in libertarian values, but the party itself is just a disaster. Remember when they nominated Bill Weld for VP, which was already bizarre given he was in no way libertarian, and then the dumbass literally endorsed Clinton on national television. They’re just a bunch of clowns.
unconscionable@reddit
Dave Smith is the only runnable candidate I've seen since Ron Paul, and he announced he would not pursue the libertarian nomination for personal family reasons. Perhaps in 2028 he could be convinced?
The_Pudge@reddit
I love Dave Smith and think he has a lot of qualities that would make him a great candidate. I am however worried that if he starts gaining any traction, he'd be way too easy to attack in a way that makes him a complete non-starter for a lot of people. Like imagine the headlines of, "Libertarian Party runs candidate who heald a 'Bill Cosby rape victim beauty padgent' on his podcast."
IDCimSTRONGERtnUinRL@reddit
Couldn't even vote Chase Oliver in Illinois.
Sledgecrowbar@reddit
Or 5th. Or 7th. Idk, idc.
Cool-Chocolate9777@reddit
On a plus side Ron Paul hopefully gets his shot with musk.
DarthFluttershy_@reddit
Don Kissick outperformed Trump massively in Ohio. Still only 3.4%, but that's a bit telling since that senate race was critical for both parties whereas Trump was more or less a lock from the get-go. I can't imagine there are that many libertarians who genuinely think Trump is better than Moreno, and that means a lot of people won't even lodge a protest vote with Oliver.
Conspiratorrery@reddit
You had better candidates, you voted for a woke liberal instead of a libertarian.
zzt0pp@reddit
No, there wasn't. You can look at the vote—the other one was Rectenwald which is who Mises leadership wanted. Weeks later, he says Jews run the country, the world, and are the biggest threat to freedom etc several anti Judaism posts. If he had been our nominee, it is doubtful Trump 'works with us' as the LP would be shunned nationally. It would have somehow actually been worse.
Karukaya@reddit
Just means if you voted libertarian you’re part of an even more exclusive club 👍
divinecomedian3@reddit
Me after voting libertarian and seeing the abysmal numbers
Karukaya@reddit
Dozens of us!