JD Vance: "We have built a foreign policy of hectoring, moralizing, and lecturing countries that don’t want anything to do with it. The Chinese have a foreign policy of building roads and bridges and feeding poor people."
Posted by CollisionResistance@reddit | EndlessWar | View on Reddit | 36 comments
Various_Try5760@reddit
Remember this guy is a zionist wailing wall kisser, He is also a friend of peter thiel and we know that s**m. More wars will come
Ridit5ugx@reddit
20+ years too late because the Chinese are way ahead in the game. So let’s see what kind of disaster this upcoming administration will cook up.
captain-prax@reddit
Might be the last gasps of the GOP. Not with a bang...
Just-Sale-7015@reddit
Given Trump's past record of cutting funding to UNRWA etc., it's likely gonna be feeding people with $0. And if you want to leave UNRWA aside because they're terrorist (in Trump's & Israel's book anyway)
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/as-promised-trump-slashes-aid-to-central-america-over-migrants-idUSKCN1TI2DS/
The effects lasted for years
https://www.devex.com/news/trump-funding-cuts-hurt-80-of-usaid-central-america-programs-report-101936
So, yeah, don't expect any freebies from Trump. He'll want something in return. Europe-style migrant deals. Will China's deal be better? That is the Q most countries will ask themselves.
mikemaca@reddit
Palestinians are humans and there is a genocide but why should I pay one cent for this program that fattens bureaucrats on both sides.
There are multiple reasonable solutions, not one which the so-called fake reps of both sides claim.
And hey shooting babies is not okay.
y2kbear@reddit
The Chinese are using a similar model as the west. As explained in The New Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. Wrap the target country in debt and extract natural resources. Use subterfuge, coup or whatever it takes.
rrunawad@reddit
Both parties have bombed the Global South for literal decades. You have to be an idiot to believe this crap.
UseYourWords_@reddit
Yes, China has outsmarted the USA. Now do like the Chinese do and reinvest in your own country. They don’t spend 90% of their budget on wars around the world.
chungieeeeeeee@reddit
Don’t believe what this guy says at all. Look at his pedigree. He’s a wanna be blue blood who ingratiated himself with the neoconservative set and jumped onto the faux Trumpist populism and the weird Peter Thiel Catholic convert psychos from the internet because it was politically expedient
Still wants to bomb Iran, offer Israel blank check after blank check, build up the navy’s presence in the S China sea with the intent of starting shit between Taiwan and China.
Same goes for Tulsi. Bullshit artists, both of them.
CollisionResistance@reddit (OP)
Watch Vance's interview with Tim Dillon
https://youtu.be/QPlqID3zv4k?si=-L8GBGLs855yWDFf&t=2539
@42:19
chungieeeeeeee@reddit
We as Americans aren’t going to be fighting Iran directly. It’d be particularly brutal and expensive. Ground war would be even worse. We will be using our proxies.
Americans frankly don’t give enough Of a shit to attack Iran unless it was a direct provocation. Americans don’t wanna die for contractor profits unless it’s something more concrete, like a bs terror attack.
Israel is the one who’s arrogant and stupid enough to take them on, and we’re gonna fund them without reservation. We’ll provide bombs drones and money for PMCs , at most the occasional JSOC mission.
This has been in the works for decades anyway, remember when Trump shot a fucking missile at Solemani when he was in Iraq? We literally killed another nations general in a completely different sovereign nation.
Americans don’t wanna hear all the bad stuff about what actually happened on the ground like we did during the GWOT.as long as we can pretend it’s all just out of arms reach, it’s happening to someone else, somewhere else.
as long we can remain in the imperial core and gas is still under 3 dollars a gallon Americans will accept literally any horror committed on their behalf.
If you believe anything these freaks are saying you’re beyond help.
CollisionResistance@reddit (OP)
I do not believe these people will actually "do" or accomplish anything. VP is a figurehead anyway. But maybe I am naive enough to think he believes what he says here.
There's nothing to gain, and everything to lose when you say something like this out loud. People have all sorts of ideas and approach to diplomacy, and they are met with all sorts of resistance and people with vested interests who coax them into forgetting any principles they may have thought they had.
I think most of these scum politicians know what's actually happening in Gaza. If we can figure it out, they can too. Most do not have any ideological bend towards Israel. They do what they do out of fear of the lobby.
DippityDoppityDoo@reddit
I think there is in fact an ideological bend, but there is certainly $$$ influence as well. Some people who have little to do with politics are hell bent on Israel because of the legitimate empathy for Jews after Holocaust, but unfortunately have turned a blind eye to Israel’s atrocities, mixed with memories of 9/11 and ongoing negative propaganda of Muslims for decades… didn’t really help… anyone except Israel’s right wing extremists…
bobood@reddit
Broken clock moment but they're neocons and hawkish to their core. They will happily do all sorts of shitty foreign policy things just like they did last time around despite a natural sort of lull in US war-making at the time.
mikemaca@reddit
This is a smart dude I really like him. He is extremely reality and practical. They say he is not a get-er-done hillbilly like the miners building roads after Helene in North Carolina hollers, but he is proving that wrong.
thefirebrigades@reddit
If the man can walk the walk, I am all for more competition in the geopolitical arena that is based not on wars but on building Bridges and feeding poor people.
To start that the first step is to dismantle the American empire and tear those military bases down. Spent that budget on on construction and industry rather than bombs and missiles.
BalconyFace@reddit
Agreed, and a truth and reconciliation process would be nice too
Just-Sale-7015@reddit
That's what TRUTH Social is for in MAGA world.
BalconyFace@reddit
I think this is a joke. I hope so. But not sure
Plus-Relationship833@reddit
Agree, world should be competing who can build better, not demolish it
o0flatCircle0o@reddit
Yeah that’s totally going to happen lol
Just-Sale-7015@reddit
What he's really saying with cutting the hectoring is: sell arms to those who can afford it, no questions asked. I.e. Saudis, Israel, etc. He didn't actually say the US should do the rest of the stuff that China does, if you pay close attention to the speech. At no point did he actually suggest the US should be feeding the poor.
idiot206@reddit
They don’t even believe in building bridges or feeding the poor in the US, ofc they don’t think that’s what we should be doing.
nimmpau@reddit
Broken clock, twice a day, yadda, yaddda
Diligent_Ad6157@reddit
lol you’re a stupid piece of shit if you think the fascists are actually anti-war
SaladMalone@reddit
Sounds great JD. Now actually do it.
Ok-Sell4786@reddit
Nah u cant do wt china does sweetie.. even if u want to.
Legalised-fraud@reddit
They’ll ethnically cleanse the Levant and call it a day
barbara800000@reddit
You all need to understand that it is not entirely up to them to do that. I think Putin and Xi Jinping are just waiting for this guy and his side, who could be a demaggue or interested in "deals" (meaning they won't for total war and who gives a shit we will rule over the ruins, as the neocons would). If he doesn't work, well, the operation dismantling the US Empire will begin, and it's Israel that won't survive as a state. Note that Russia has said it several times, that if they are about to start WW3 they will attack the US, that's because some neocons actually think "we will get Europe to fight the Russians and we stay out then bring the Marshall plan" and they are approaching Trump with this plan.
NjordWAWA@reddit
JamesRocket98@reddit
I hope both Donald Trump and JD Vance are man enough to put their non-interventionist foreign policy into action and instead focus on revitalizing their economy without the need to start any new endless wars.
Bonfires_Down@reddit
Putin is right - Trump is genuinely unpredictable. He could de-escalate global tensions, but it’s also possible that he could start a world war. I can actually believe that Putin prefers the predictability of the democrats.
Just-Sale-7015@reddit
Yeah, that's why Trump is encouraging Israel to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. End the war with complete domination, like with Syria, Lebanon, etc. Except it might take a while. Meanwhile, Israel will need THAADs and some tens of thousands more bombs, at least. But hey, at least they're rich and pay for some of it.
in_the_wool@reddit
I don't believe him for a second
burneranahata@reddit
When is this from?
CollisionResistance@reddit (OP)
July 2023.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/15/politics/antony-blinken-state-department-nominees/index.html