First logistics, to do mass deportations on the scale Trump wants to do you need lots of officers, lots of jails and transportation.
Second money, everything I said costs lots of money. So hey first gotta get the funding for it.
Third, economic consequences. I will never take serious a politician that wants to stop illegal immigration if first they don't hold accountable the corporations that hire them. Right now corporations use the broken system to their advantage.
Recent example was Perdue chicken, they called immigration on themselves after several workers started complaining about sexual harassment and labor law violations. They got their workers deported and payed a small fine to get rid of their legal troubles and by the time the immigration officers were leaving the plant they were already signing up the next batch of illegal workers.
I know it's all doom and gloom right now but republicans are not going to let trump do mass deportations. Why? Because it will tank the economy and they know it.
If Republicans cared about the economy they wouldn't have elected Trump in the first place. He'll use executive orders for the most part since that obviates having to work through Congress, and with the SCOTUS granting him immunity for Official Acts there's no real legal basis to try and stop those. If all Official Acts are by definition legal, then no judge would dare say otherwise.
The very first people he'll go after are DACA recipients since they're most established in their lives and thus easiest to find. Mothers, children, brothers and sisters, it won't matter, he'll start rounding them up. Transportation's not really a problem either he'll commandeer Amtrak to take them to the border by the train-car load. That'll be cheaper and more efficient than buses. Along with DACA he'll start rounding up asylum seekers since there whereabouts are typically documented through their court cases. Low hanging fruit, so no ICE raids of factories and farms, plus the economic disruption will be relatively minimal so that the mass deportations can become more normalized. This will allow him to expand the roundups over time incrementally so that before too long it will be routine for tens of thousands to be deported every day.
BTW, the cartels will love this because all those DACA recipients often have family back here in the states that can be hit for ransoms, and for sure many DACA recipients will be killed if the ransom isn't paid. The flood of deportees into Mexico will also destabilize the Mexican government, making it easier for the cartels to take it over outright. At that point the cartels might even start mass executions of deportees at the border, maybe even in plain sight of the border on TV, which the Trumpers will eat right up. That'll just egg on more roundups and deportations, and for sure lots of Trump's "enemies" who are citizens will get deported too. In fact, ICE already accidentally deports dozens of citizens every year and have been for a long, long time. The extra citizens deported will be lost in the noise. Hopefully their families can pay the ransom.
When I said republicans I wasn't talking about the voters I'm talking about the leaders.
There are not going to be massive deportations of people working on farms.
Republicans are spinless, bigots but they care about their money. They use immigrants as a talking point so their voter base will vote for them. As soon as they are in power they move on to the next thing.
They will not take more refugees and "protect" the border. That's it. They will protect the money of the rich. The rich are the ones that benefit of undocumented labor the most.
My fiancé and I are in an unfortunate position here. We are marrying late in the game and her window to have a baby is quite limited. She is near terrified of getting pregnant here in Texas
How do you think this would change if Harris won? I am truly baffled that people think Harris winning would wave a magic wand or something. Please explain the logic?
It would make it more likely she would put supreme court justices in that will change the ruling at some point in the future. It would also make it less likely we get a national abortion ban or any legislation that would make it harder for women to family plan including access to birth control. Also reduces the likelihood of reversing marital rape laws. It also improves the likelihood of rapes being prosecuted. Those are just the things I can think of that directly affect women's reproductive health and independence.
There’s no “changing the ruling.” You have to have a case that goes to the Supreme Court. And ask any lawyer, Roe v Wade didn’t actually have any law backing it up. It was upheld based on something called Stare Decisis. Meaning it’s been upheld for so long judges can just keep going with it. This time they didn’t. What they did in Roe v Wade was pull a rabbit out of a hat and then judges kept going with it to give legislatures time to put in a law. They didn’t.
I am not really on Board with their decision, but I understand it. Because the legislature didn’t previously put in the laws, now it’s up to the citizens to do their part. Campaign, vote, beat the streets and get candidates elected that have your same ideals.
They said Row v Wade was settled law until they overturned it. They could use the same logic to restore it. All you need is Judges that believe it is a constitutional right. You can believe it's a rabbit out of a hat but that's been said of a lot of decisions.
What happened to men??? How about you be a father and tell her NOT to have sex with just anyone, and if she can’t hold herself, to use one of the MANY birth control options out there. The fact that you had the courage to post such a thing publicly makes me doubt whether you’re trolling or not.
It's probably not a bad idea for parents of little girls to put their girl on birth control as soon as they start menstruating because there are lots of incels out there that would love to rape a baby into a girl knowing that the law pretty much guarantees that baby will get born.
Yeah, “protect” the little girls by pumping then with birth control. Also, you talk about incels while supporting a candidate that allows men to be in the same bathroom as little girls? I suggest you check your logic.
Trumpers are the ones obsessed with making sure that 9 year old girls have to carry their rape baby to term, and ensuring the little girl goes into 4th grade with a Cesarean scar since girls that age can't deliver due to their pelvis still being child-sized. Maybe you can explain why since you're a Trumper?
I hope you understand that nothing you stated prevents medical complications in pregnancy that could require an abortion to save the life of a woman. Are you suggesting that women in red states should no longer have children?
Straw argument; no one is remotely suggesting that. Besides, nobody is arguing against a procedure to save the life of the mother; Trump himself stated multiple times that he is in favor of that, so your entire rhetoric is based on feelings and illusion instead of reality.
I think, it probably would be better to get pregnant and have a child now than later (at least if the plan is to continue to reside in Texas)? Considering that there is already a OB/GYN shortage in Texas and the majority of the current population of doctors in residency in the state do not plan on remaining here post residency and the older generation of doctors in the field planning on retiring early, I'd imagine that finding good and reputable doctors it will get worse over time and repairing the damage of these policies will take a longer time.
But having a child right now is only logical if you somehow know for sure know that there won't be any complications. And that must be scary to not have very many options.
I think while there is some federal impact, this is now largely a state issue. Until the rich and politicians start seeing their wives and daughters unable to get decent medical care and even deaths directly in their immediate family as a result, nothing will change.
It's really unfortunate that women in Texas will have to suffer in such a way. I can't really imagine how hard it must be to be a woman in Texas right now and the coming years
Isn't that an ironic turn of events for a party trying to force people to have more children? I suspect you are not the only couple making this decision in the country.
Just like the other commenter said…. I was planning on having several more kids (always wanted a big family), but being 40 and living here in Texas…. That dream was buried last night. I will not risk my life or leave my 7 year old autistic son without a mother.
With the judges HE put in place. And likely he will replace the two old ones with young ones, so this will be the court we have for the next 30 years...
I think I read Thomas said he would retire as soon as Trump got elected so that a much younger and more conservative judge can be installed in his place.
The Supreme Court did and he was smart enough to appoint young enough judges that they don't have to worry about replacing them soon.
The only way Kamala would be able to get roe v wade protections on the federal level would be
a)pack the court and get it overturned which never would happen cause democrats don't got the balls plus they would need super majorities in Congress
b) constitutional amendment, again won't happen but that's cause democrats would need lots of majorities in state and federal levels that at this point they just can't get and
c) with a super majority in Congress they could pass laws around it but they would be challenged by the states and the Supreme Court would overturn it.
You’re not wrong, but you’re downvoted because it sucks. They could have packed the judiciary with judges willing to interpret existing laws more favorably though.
When have the democrats ever had the balls to be that brazen?
We're talking about the people that get stopped on their tracks by the parliamentarian.
You know what republicans do when the parliamentarian tells them no? They fire them and put one in that will do everything they say. That's why republicans get results.
I think you’ve got the parties mixed up. Democrats push polices forward and move the country left all while the republicans sit on their hands and do nothing. Republicans are nothing more than speed bumps to the left.
That’s not true. With the house and senate leaning red she could’ve vetoed a national ban. That’s out the window now and could easily become reality in the next two years.
you think Trump thinks that far ahead..he doesn't. He literally doesn't think about cause and effect. In fact, no politician does, one of the goals of the GOP has always been a national abortion ban. I will be saying I told you WHEN he signs it, just like I was saying I told you so when the supreme court overturned Roe vs Wade, and I called it when he appointed Amy Coney Barrett.
Yes I'm not talking about trumps political capital. He doesn't need it anymore.
I'm talking about the gop political capital that they need for the midterms. Once they accomplish everything else in their agenda after the midterms and possibly after the next general electio. Then will they think about a federal abortion ban seriously.
But that's the thing even after the supreme Court overruled roe vs Wade..they still took the house and Senate. The people have short memories and elections are ultimately won by how much money you can raise.. Republicans raised a lot more and do a good job at drowning out their opponents.
There's a lot of other stuff republicans need to do that will require all that political capital. They might get it done in the lame duck part of trumps presidency tho. That's why the midterms will be very important.
There's a lot of more low hanging fruit that they need to get thru first. Foreign policy which Americans do not care about unless we put boots on the ground that's an easy pick first to give their defense industry buddies more money, all of the environmental stuff that again a lot of people don't care and don't understand about, immigration of course, tax cuts will probably up right at the beginning of his term, and gutting regulation and federal agencies.
Only after they've done all of that will they even start thinking about abortion.
Not true. Trump has promised to enact a nation wide abortion ban. Kamala could have done something else, or at the least not do anything to make it worse.
Trump has said many things, I do believe that the conservative base is itching for that but it will cost a lot of political power. I think they'll leave the mess we got now.
Trump has never said anything remotely close to that. Fear mongering much?
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/01/trump-abortion-veto-national-ban-00182091
Im a liberal. I hink people got sick of the dems not actually following through. Like how Obama pushed even harder in Iraq and Afghanistan after he promised to get us out. Then bombed 5 more countries, overthrew more governments and approved years of secret war crimes in Yemen. I hated Trumps immigration ban, but Obama did far worse.
The affordable care act is a complete disaster, he bailed put the banks while letting 5 million families lose their homes, millions others lost pensions. Oh and he never signed roe v wade into law even tho he said that was the first law he'd sign day 1.
Then we had this miserable inflation with Biden and another huge expensive war. Largest and bloodiest and most expensive war in Europe since 1945 with no end in sight.
Then they told everyone they were crazy for thinking Biden was mentally struggling. Then they couped him when it became obvious he was seriously not okay, and then replaced him with the last place finisher of the 2020 primaries with no vote. Kind of like how Bernie won the 2016 primaries but the party rigged it for Hilary, leasing to DWSs resignation. Trump won both times against candidates the democrats didn't even choose. Maybe the party should be taken to task here instead of some mail carrier.
I'm very upset with the dem party before I'll be mad at normal people. Trump should have been an easy out both times, it takes a serious amount of horrible politics and mismanagement to end up here. This country is not becoming the fourth Reich. I think it's just sick of establishment politicians. This should be a wake up call for american liberals, should probably stop telling half the country we hate them, and actually try to organize with them lol. And we should stop pretending democrats actually do what they platform on. Often, they do the exact opposite. This has come at a great cost in public trust, and I can't blame them.
That was awesome. He is a human being and he is spontaneous. Harris, on the other hand, cannot finish a single spontaneous sentence without losing her place and laughing to cover that up.
During this campaign, Harris, her shills across the media and her brigades on Reddit lionized Liz Cheney and (gasp) Robert Kagan, two depraved warmongers. Then Trump (who is anti-war and very popular for this among some on the very far left as myself) openly ridiculed Cheney and the brigades savaged Trump. The Democratic Party is the party of Permawar for Israel.
I think Dems learned the wrong lessons from 2016. They thought all they had to do was hold rallies in the blue wall states. They were learning from Hillary's mistakes and not Trump's successes.
Trump taught us that all you have to do is make extremely bold claims and promises. Harris should have thrown Biden under the bus and promised everybody everything. She should have promised to end the war in Gaza, Medicare for all, a public option, force Russia out of Ukraine, a path to citizenship, end illegal immigration, cats and dogs living together, stripper factories, beer volcanos, anything she could think of. If anybody asked her how she was going to do any of those things, she should have grabbed her crotch, called them fake news, and then laughed maniacally. We now know that's how you win over the American people.
Sure, bud. You can always rely on Trump for following through and keeping his word!
How about that border wall? It’s all that he promised! Except for the part that has fallen down, or never got built because his crony Steve Bannon pocketed all the public’s money who were suckered into donating for its construction.
Don‘t you just love how Trump threw out Obamacare and replaced it with his new and improved version? Wait, what? He only showed a 60 Minutes reporter a huge binder full of blank pages and random orders, but no Trump healthcare plan was ever written in that binder or ever implemented?
That‘s how I know that I can trust Trump! He’s the one with the thieving cronies, blank binders, and lies, lies, lies. SMH
Finally, some intelligence.
Thank you. I think you hit it on the head. Why everyone has to be so full of hate and vitriol, is beyond me.
Refreshing.
Too bad you don't hear this from many…
It’s so interesting how the prescription is always to cooperate more with the right when the right is increasingly divisive and now actually openly advocating violence against political opponents. It’s working quite well for them.
I think it's just sick of establishment politicians.
Your comment should be the top comment on this post.
I don't know why more people don't understand that voting for Trump is the easiest middle finger you can ever give the the establishment. Only President we have ever had that didn't hold political office prior.
Bringing up Biden’s age and mental stagnation is a moot point because what did they end up doing in the end? Electing another fucking fossil who is also showing mental decline
Trump is nowhere near cooked, mentally, as Joe “We Beat Medicaid” Biden. Joe is an order of magnitude worse lol. Not a moot point at all. Don’t take my word for it—obviously voters agree.
I think it's important because everyone had been told he was still sharp as a tack. The debate showed reality was the exact opposite, and it was creepy how the whole media and party members were saying he was fine before, and even after. I think tapper referred to it as Orwellian, and I agree. Trust is hard won and easily lost. I went to Italy soon after that debate and my whole family there was asking about it, bewildered, and assumed Trump would win by default at that point. And they were correct.
Yes I agree they did oversell how he’s still “sharp as a tack.” But the characteristic of age never came up again after Kamala got put into the race even though Trump was literally showing signs of mental decline himself during his campaign (and even before his campaign).
The explanation I have for what happened. The denial. Is that the entire circle of White House staff didn’t want to loose their privileges. Access thr good life. Etc. So they came up with this scheme to keep Biden. When it failed. They managed to drum up support for Kamala on the logic that the changes to all the circle will be minimal. They were so wrong. But they succeeded is conning the Democratic Party. No primaries. She was the. Chosen candidate
it was creepy how the whole media and party members were saying he was fine before, and even after. I think tapper referred to it as Orwellian
I don't think people appreciate this enough, we as a country were straight up lied to and gas light for several years about the mental capabilities of the president. The dem nominee was not chosen by the people but by small elite group of dem politicians at the 11th hour when they couldn't lie anymore.
I consider myself a liberal and I cannot stand how the Dems have operated since ousting Bernie. I'm these next 4 years I hope the Dems take a long look in the mirror at all of these ridiculous antics they've pulled.
Honestly this, I don't like the Orange man either but, lets be real when you lose the House/Senate/Electoral and the Popular vote, its time for the Dems to look in the mirror and self reflect. Dem's are full of the promise and projection and never follow through. Both sides suck.
100% spot on. I dislike Trump but voters are not stupid. They saw and heard the Dem’s message of continuous “Trump Sucks” via all media and decided to send the Dem Party a message. The voters see the unicorns and rainbows for what they are. The Dem Party is what has polarized America and forced a Trump victory, just like 2016. They have to eject the crazies and find common sense.
I'm pretty sure Trump voters don't understand how tariffs, the government, or basic economics work, so I guess we can agree to disagree on whether or not they're stupid.
I think what we're going to find is whether Trump ends up being Wilson or Hoover bad. If he is, which seems pretty likely based off his stated policy positions, voters will finally realize why Mom and Dad kept telling them not to stick a fork in the electrical outlet.
You talking about Obama without bringing up Bush and Clinton?
Clinton was the cause of our economy then during Bush and Obama they both cleaned it up from the ish that he did. The wars under Daddy Bush and Bush Jr. that they went in under Obama to fix it
Yall have to understand truly what happens during an administration the effects don’t come a lot of times until the next administration. Ie the inflation, taxes that is from Trump first term. The tax plan we in now is tax cut and jobs act signed in by Trump 2018 it doesn’t expire til 2025.
Trump declared COVID a national disaster when we didn’t even have policies on a biological disaster. When he declared this it enacted federal services and resources for public assistance, states and businesses with SBA. Created so much fraud, waste, and abuse. There is a deficit from this alone but in the beginning he kept saying this is fake this is fake.
Biden was not mentally well and neither is Trump. They are old af like damn near 80s it makes no sense.
I thought he would at least have an immigration plan he hadn’t said anything. He did reallocate funds from FEMA disaster relief fund to customs border patrol during his first term it was millions of dollars for the wall and immigration housing camps. They money was for Americans and disasters and it wasn’t replenished then he starts bashing FEMA during Helene and Milton when he decimated their budget from the customs thing and the wall, then declaring covid a national disaster. FEMA program and budget handled that bc the president said so. Nobody was talking about this
We will see what happens when the tax cut and jobs act stops in 2025 if Congress doesn’t extend it
The people voting for Trump aren't normal, though. Supporting a hate filled, incoherent, convicted rapist and fraudster whose lies are easily verified as lies for the highest position of power is not normal.
Ukraine hasn’t even been a huge expensive war. It’s a war of defense where we spend a bunch of weapons we’re not using offensively. We don’t and won’t have troops on the ground there. And there’s no end in sight because Russia knows it can hold out for a Trump Presidency to cut aid to Ukraine.
Inflation has come down to 2% and we didn’t have any rise in unemployment- we literally have the best possible outcome from that high inflation, which occurred everywhere and was supply driven.
I don’t disagree with you that Democrats have to message this stuff better, but whenever anyone tries to argue the truth, it’s drowned out by Trump’s rhetoric. His statements are snappier, they’re easier to internalize, but they’re fundamentally untrue.
I lost the link to the article already, but some of the most Latino areas of the state flipped for Trump. This ain't just the poor rural whites, unfortunately. As a left-leaner I wish people would stop fantasizing every other November about the state flipping. I love the enthusiasm, but it's just not realistic and I've always prepared myself for disappointment.
Indeed, if current trends continue, Hispanics will be majority Republican in another election or two. They voted 45% for Trump yesterday.
I wonder if the Democrats are going to double down with the “Republicans are the party of angry uneducated white men” narrative, or if they’re going to reconsider their strategy of splitting voters by race and treating each ethnic community like it’s a homogenous voting bloc that only cares about issues specific to their skin color.
The Republican Party is now simply the “ party of angry uneducated”. No party has done anything to alleviate their issues despite countless promises. They got conned by Trump (the irony of believing a billionaire narcissist as a solution is so rich) because he was different than any establishment politicians. And he is. In a worse kind of way…
Lol must be rough being so out of touch that you think thats why people voted the way they did. I feel bad for uneducated liberal who cant see past the trash and lies they are fed.
So educate me about what was so bad about the bi-partisan border bill? Ya know, the one Trump had the republicans purposely tank so that he could run on immigration? I’m just an uneducated liberal so I’d really like to get your opinion on this because you seem like you have an awful lot to say but not a lot to back it up.
I'm not sure shipping out the people who are working in egg and chicken farms is going to bring egg prices down. Sure, we can replace them with under-educated white guys who want $25/hour for that type of work. Seems pretty inflationary to me.
Yeah except (and correct me if I'm wrong here) stuff is gonna cost more once the new regime kicks in if they follow through with their plans.
I have a few very staunch trumpers that I'm friends with who post some pretty wild stuff on the ol' Facebook, so my plan is to do kinda the same thing when we don't see gas/grocery prices go down.
Like make the "I did that!" sticker except with the tyrant on it, or like "Hey, why are gas prices going up? I thought that was supposed to instantly get better on day one! Oh you have to undo what Biden did? Sounds like an excuse to me, I want results, now!"
They're confusing someone arriving legally on a visa that subsequently expired and someone who entered the country illegally. Also, anyone here without documentation has the right by treaty to request asylum and legal due process regardless of how they arrived.
is this a serious question? one came over, filled out paperwork to be allowed in and work while waiting to become a citizen.....then became a citizen. the other swam a river.
what's the difference between buying a concert ticket and climbing the fence to get in. one is right and one is wrong.
As a transgender adult I have less rights now than I did 8 years ago as a transgender child, and nobody likes those 2 works together. I dunno, trans people are the only one talking about this so i really do get the feeling that no one cares, but I have to. This is my life. I am scared. It is becoming harder to obtain any kind of medical treatment.
They're putting up more barriers to make these things difficult. No, I don't mean "oh they're trying to make sure only the people who truly need the care receive it" they want no one to receive this care. I want to genuinely explain these things and why they're scary but it's hard without writing a novel.
2 months ago in Texas, they made it impossible to change your gender marker. Theyre also putting anyone who requests this on a list to monitor them. This fucking sucks bc changing your gender marker was already a process that required you to be physically transitioned for years, with doctors letters and such to support your case. That was a reasonable amount of criteria, not just anyone can do it you need a history and a team of support. The only person who needs to know your chromosomes is your doctor, and you still have to tell them. Changing the marker is solely for social satisfaction, pulling out your ID and knowing anyone who saw you a certain way before, won't think of you differently now. It's a simple piece of mind.
Taking that away for example is scary. Why? It feels solely to stomp on our personal freedoms. How does it negatively affect anyone? It's simply about control. I am unfortunately a part of a small, quiet enough minority to control. At least they will continue trying to control our narrative, and speak of who we are for us. Personally, I just work at a petstore, love my family, and keep to myself. I'd like to continue doing so in the way that makes me happy, just like you get to.
Yeah I forgot about y'all tho this sucks what's worse is that democrats didn't even stood up for y'all at all. No messaging aimed directly at the trans community. That tells me they're shifting right even on this basic human rights policy.
I don't particularly disagree. I'm somewhat of the opinions modern democracy is just old school republicanism. Sorry to dump on you btw. I don't wanna just be a whiney queer and I think the best way to fight that is to actually explain how the issues effect my life and why that matters to me so. I want ppl to understand. Thanks!
You can donate your entire paycheck to them to keep the efforts up. Join their armies or I’m sure there’s other ways. Keep supporting my them from the comfort of your couch.
Your response is all I needed to learn about your values. You’re doing nothing for people you claim to be worried about, instead you make angry post while eating your avocado toast.
I do, I hear it’s good for your skin. Advice was given to me from an American Citizen that has ties to a latin American country. I’m sad I don’t remember which. But she is a wonderful person.
Would they have had a better time under more Harris?
I agree with your overall point. Let’s treat each other well and make the world better where we stand, where we live. Extreme emotional reactions and purely emotional decisions aren’t making anything better - so again I appreciate your calm and measured response.
Why would you feel bad for people who aren’t supposed to be here, who criminally entered the US while others followed the process, who eat up our tax money and who take advantage of the system? Right here in Dallas I was robbed and pistol whipped by illegal immigrants, so there are absolutely criminally minded people coming across the border, and when I called the police they said they can’t do anything because these people are impossible to find because they aren’t documented, and a lot of them who do get deported use Coyotes to get right back over to live a life of crime because hope else are they going to make money except dealing drugs, working under the table, etc.
Whether you want to accept it or not there are victims in America to undocumented immigrants. I don’t get why people think it’s okay to just do whatever you want and come over here illegally while hard working Americans have to fit the bill. So when you say you feel bad for illegal immigrants I have to say I feel bad for Americans who have to deal with the less than savory ones, and really any of them if American tax payer money is being used to support them. If you feel so bad for them what are you doing to support them? Have you donated money, time or shelter for them? I’m guessing not. Which makes me wonder how vested you are in your support.
Because for every bad hombre there's over 200 of hard working law abiding undocumented immigrants that have been in this country for decades paying their taxes and creating a better future for their family.
Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at less than half the rate as us citizens or legal immigrants.
Lastly your story is bs. How do you know they were illegal if they weren't arrested?
Oh and to answer your question I'm marring an illegal so that her and her family can get legal status.
Because I was setup and the person who set me up to get robbed later told me who the gang was. The story isn’t BS dude it happened to me. There are plenty of people here that need jobs. How are they paying taxes if they’re undocumented? You mean getting taxes by employers who have them off the books?
Most undocumented immigrants pay their taxes same payroll taxes you pay including fica for which they never receive any benefits. Even if they worked "under the table" their employer still has to report their earnings to the irs so they have to file taxes.
And that’s a bunch of bullshit most of them do off jobs or mow lawns or clean houses and don’t pay taxes, be real. This isn’t the perfect little world you’re making it out to be. I’ve seen it first hand. You read some news article. Reality wins.
lol omg I’m sorry you know two people so pay taxes and I know ten that don’t. Let’s just end this here it’s a waste of my breath. Like I said hopefully they deport your son to be wife so she can’t stink up this country and bring her 800 relatives over here.
Yes I do know they’re undocumented she literally told me the story of them crossing the desert to come here illegally. You really need to read. One of them came back three times, some piece of shit called Mousey.
Me too. They're the easiest target and it's gross cause they expose themselves to that just so they can amend the wrongs of their parents under the promise that one day there would be a path to citizenship for them. Worst is these people are the type of immigrants that everyone wants.
Undocumented immigrants paid $96,000,000,000 in 2022 through an ITN, they paid into social security and Medicare but would never be able to withdraw that in retirement.
Women will lose rights over their bodies.
We'll likely help Russia win its war.
Medicaid/Medicare/Disability/Social Security will be gutted while tax breaks for the wealthy are reinforced.
The people who protest will have the army used against them.
As opposed to how democrats put forward that he was a Russian agent and spied on him as he ran. Used fake documents that they paid for from Russia. Tried to use force to over throw the goverment by firebombing the white house grounds, burning cities down, and trying to burn a federal court house down.
3 women have died recently from septic shock after being denied an abortion on their terminal pregnancies. Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, and Josseli Barnica were there names. Nevaehs mother watched her bleed out, black blood dripping from her nose and mouth as her body was overwhelmed by sepsis. After 3 ER visits, her baby still had a heartbeat, she could not receive an abortion until the baby miscarried, bleeding profusely from her groin but it was too late. One of the last things Nevaeh was able to express was her fear, to which her mother told her "You can do this, God gives us strength" she had begged doctors to save her daughter, but any abortion performed with a heartbeat would result in legal trouble for them.
Nobody who is scared is being dramatic. People are paid money to report women crossing borders for abortion. Women are DYING.
Just to be clear it didn’t belong to the states. Also what the hell is Biden supposed to do to check a Trump-appointed court? It’s painfully obvious our SCOTUS has no checks on it.
Also what the hell is Biden supposed to do to check a Trump-appointed court?
Exactly! Harris ran her campaign on restoring ‘women’s rights’ knowing full well she couldn’t do shit about Roe. And you guys all went around tell everyone who didn’t care about how you were going to vote to save your daughter’s rights….
From what I’ve seen there were legal loopholes that could have provided some national abortion legalization. But I didn’t really pay attention to that since I’m not a woman. But you’re also ignoring that if Kamala HAD swept, there would have been more liberal reps in states, which could have changed their state’s laws.
Also I think it’s okay to vote for the candidate that isn’t against women’s right to healthcare, and generally a much better truth teller than her opponent.
They died under a Democrat and would continue to die under Harris. She was running on the status quo not radical changes required to bring back rights in red states. Trump lost 3 million votes and Harris lost 15 million from 2020 Biden. It's on the party, they failed again like they failed in 2016.
Actions of the SCOTUS. Which was returning the issue to STATES rights. I am not saying I agree with the Court ignoring Stare Decsis, but come on…. Harris winning wasn’t going to change this. If you want reform, then go beat the streets and get it. I didn’t vote for the politicians that supported the Texas ban. Did you even look up, which politicians did support it? Did you help campaign for the candidates that shared the same values you do?
I know for a fact you didn't vote lmfao. You're an incel couch fucker who complains on reddit but can't spend 5 minutes to actually vote against facism. Pathetic
Texas has to be forced at gunpoint to give up slavery, 900 days after the Emancipation Proclamation, 71 days after the Confederate army surrendered, and 24 days after the Confederate army in Texas disbanded. In fact, Texas was the last state to have slavery as a governmental institution. A Union general had to come down to Texas to force the end of slavery here. Maybe leaving some things up to states is a bad idea? Especially states that have as deep a history of discrimination and bigotry as us?
People are extremely stupid in acting like tyranny can only come from the federal government. It doesn’t matter if it’s a state or the president, if they were to take your house from you right now you’re going to feel equally wronged either way.
The doctors chose not to do it. The reason being is that the law doesn't clearly spell out when doctors can't be prosecuted for doing an abortion. This makes it a dice roll for the doctor, and after investing a decade of their lives and hundreds of thousands of dollars in their career and medical license they're certainly not going to be interested in rolling those dice. Want to change it? Rewrite the law to explicitly spell out exactly what procedures and when a doctor can do them. Doctors can easily come up with that list and it can be added to the law with a simple bill. When the dice roll goes away then the medicine, unencumbered by badly written laws, can come back.
I feel like most people who voted for Trump don’t feel as strongly about abortion as you, I know I don’t. Yea that stuff’s terrible but I didn’t vote for him bc I want to stop abortions. I feel like a lot of democrats are single issue voters, honestly you’ve got to think bigger than that
I never thought I would live to see this... The abortion ban is one thing. It's a loss of personal freedom, which is a loss for Americans. But promoting the betrayal of your neighbors and loved ones for profit might be the most realistically indictive point towards Nazi parallels.
This is completely false. He had a stroke that was unrelated to the riots. It just happened around that time. Correlation is not causation. There is plenty of real facts to to go after Trump on. Spreading lies and misinformation just calls into question everything you say and makes you position weaker. This has made politics nauseating as both sides seem to be doubling down.
If you think it's false, go demand every single web site such as Wikipedia to remove it.
Plus, you didn't state ALL of the facts if you want to knickpick. He had 2 strokes after the riots. Spreading misinformation just calls into question everything you say & makes your position weaker.
I never said anything about Trump. Why are you?
Man.. if you don't like politics, don't give it any of your time. I don't like Putin. I don't waste any of my time learning anything about him.
I like how you assumed I didn't do research & that I magically made that up. Thanks. If you question Wikipedia as a source, go complain to them.
I didn't state he died on the 6th. And I'm not interested in debating with you that his strokes that happened AFTER the 6th did or did not contribute to his death. Neither one of us are the medical examiner otherwise I would have expected you to state that from the beginning. Not one even the medical examiner knows for sure despite their results. When you have expert neurologists, U.S. Capitol Police and U.S. Justice Department have stated that they believe his injuries from the 6th caused his death, why not listen?
Because without COVID it’s unlikely those things would have killed them. Being fat will shorten your lifespan, but not outright bring about your fast approaching demise. COVID could absolutely do that and being fat just helps it along.
“The USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes.”
The violence isn’t even close to equal. For democrats you had some rioting in certain cities that were over legitimate concerns. January 6th was a multifaceted coup attempt and attack on American institutions. All based off lies and propaganda.
Did I say that violence is good? No I said that when the left gets violent it’s over things like police brutality or queer rights. When the right gets violent it’s about destroying our entire system of governance and installing their God Emperor into power.
Did I say you did? You’re justifying it for a cause and condoning another for a “cause” just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean one’s right over the other. You also ignored the whole butler pa thing but hey, you do you. This won’t go anywhere because we’ll never see eye to eye and I’m ok with that. I respect your views and opinion. Have a good week 🙏🏻
You’re misunderstanding my point. The left and the right are not equal. It’s very true that they both engage in violence (I’ll be the first liberal to tell you BLM was a trash organization), but the right does political violence in a way that is so much more dangerous. Whether it be rhetorical or physical. Just look at Elon Musk. He is what the right thought Jack Dorsey was. Yet they’re 100% okay when the social media company is biased to them. Meanwhile beforehand Twitter was pretty well moderated and equal. It might have had a more strong left leaning presence, but generally the only people getting silenced were the ones making terroristic threats and the like.
There will be no violence. That’s y’all’s thing. Republicans were literally threatening civil war if trump lost. Trumps voting base is made up of conspiracy nuts, incels, and future mass shooters.
Trump himself said that he would become a dictator on his first day in office. You good with that? I’m not.
I also suppose that you agree with Peter Thiel and Elon Musk’s vision of a post-democracy America? You are comfortable with your leaders providing you with fewer rights, freedoms, and protections? I’m not.
If that makes me dramatic, so be it. I’ll take dramatic over ignorant any day.
I try not to make fun of them too much in my head because it’s not their fault they’ve been genuinely brainwashed. They just think they’re being good people lol
Women will lose rights over the babies body.
We will likely be less involved in wars with anybody.
Medicaid/Medicare/Disability/Social Security were failed and failing already and you can’t kill something that’s already dead.
Literally the dems are the only ones who use violence and call it protest. The military will likely not be used but illegal activities won’t be tolerated. Peaceful protest will be protected. Dont burn cars and break into businesses and you will be fine.
People are literally dying on the streets from drug overdoses in every liberal ran city in the country. People will thrive under an economy that allows people to grow a business.
Yall are so dramatic lol it's crazy that yall think we're gonna starve and die.
I thought i was gonna starve and die under Bidens term bc I could barely afford food. Imagine how much more expensive it would be if harris took office instead.
With Trump in office, prices will go down hopefully or atleast stop going up and he will heal this country that biden broke and ruined.
Ahh yes ofc, the president doesn't have any effect on the economy whatsoever. My fault. So it's definitely not bidens fault that the prices for literally everything have been increased substantially, silly me.
I'd try and explain economics to you, but you don't seem to grasp anything but a Dr. Pepper. Boom! Also good drink, not shitting on soda -- I could use a couple right now.
Tbf if Harris had won that wasn't going to change in Texas either. Ending the filibuster was still a maybe for the party and they definitely weren't packing the Court.
The point is the Dems ran a bad campgain and lost 15 million votes from 2020. Trump also lost 3 million votes. This was a party problem and part of that problem was having zero plans and running as "Republican but not Trump. "
Just to be clear, Trump's party was massively under budget compared to Kamala's due to legal reasons regarding Trump amongst other reasons. They ran an amazing campaign, like it or not that's just a fact.
Who did, Trump? I agree he did hammer the points that mattered over and over again even though we know he was lying. Harris did not in fact run a good campgain.
Who did, Trump? I agree he did hammer the points that mattered over and over again even though we know he was lying. Harris did not in fact run a good campgain.
Yeah, I acknowledge he did lie quite a bit (understatement).
Are you the type of person that will mortgage everything else about your life on the off of the statistically unlikely chance that you need to get an abortion for reasons beyond your control?
It’s not just abortion. It the whole attitude that women should be second class citizens. The people that said women’s votes should count less are in charge now. The people that feel entitled to women’s bodies are now in charge. “Grab them by the pussy” Trump, a very close friend of Jeffery Epstein, was found liable for sexual assault and is still back in charge. Trump, the oldest person to take office, is unlikely to live through the end of his term, and then we’ll have Vance, who also doesn’t believe in the rights of women, in charge.
The Christian nationalists will happily remake society in their twisted version of Christianity. I don’t want Christianity, especially their Christianity, influencing my child.
Plus, you’ve obviously never been pregnant if you’re so flippant about abortion as healthcare.
Guess u need to leave this country and move on. You’ll b sooo much better if u do…please, have a safe trip!! While my father, my brother n myself joined this country’s wonderful military to protect what we have, but yet u want ‘aliens’ coming in and doing what they’re doing?? W/diseases, uneducated criminals and won’t b educated here, cause they’ve been told they can have everything free of charge….hmmm who said that??? The Big BLUE???
Yes. My veteran husband and I would like to leave.
Which branch were/are you in? Do you anticipate needing VA care in the future? They want to privatize the VA as a “cost savings,” but it will just make it worse. How did you feel about how he disrespects the gold star families and calls the dead “losers and suckers”? Preferred military members who weren’t POWs? Do you like that he decided to do a campaign event at Arlington? Are you in favor of his desire to have soldiers shoot protesters in the legs? Does it bother you at all that he is a draft dodger? He’s happy for your vote, but won’t do anything to help you when you come home. Project 2025 calls for reducing the amount paid in VA disability by denying veterans claims of service related injuries and conditions at a higher rate, trying to cut the payments to those that receive it now.
I’m just surprised how many active duty service members and veterans can see all of that and want him to be their boss.
Never pregnant but I was a fetus once. A complicated pregnancy for my mother as was my younger brother. She gave birth to us and if she decided to go the other route we would not be here. As a former fetus I do think on this.
My mother had miscarriages between me and my siblings. Should she have had to risk death because of the dying fetus? Women are dying right here in Texas because the known treatments that would have prevented their death are not legally accessible.
Pregnancy is a lot. A lot of things can go wrong. Why does the life of the woman not matter?
Sounds like our relative experiences shaped our views on the topic. The fact is though part of this system of governance is that both of us have an equal say in how things are and our level of experience is irrelevant.
Is that fair or unfair? If for example I, a coast guard, who has no knowledge of the public school system is casting a vote to determine the outcome of public school funding and you, a public school teacher that never served is voting on military funding initiatives, one opinion would be more educated than the other on one issue, less educated on the other but both our votes tally the same.
You're arguing with someone who can't comprehend that abortions are life saving medical procedures for women.
They care more about their "morals" of saving what they see as babies than they do about the actual living person that has to suffer and die for their moral high horse.
DKDanny if you're reading this, maybe get your head out of your ass and see that abortions are medically necessary to save the lives of women nation-wide.
The vast majority of Americans who receive abortion care do it because they will literally die or suffer unrepairable damage to their bodies.
More than anything, it is a huge step towards a further loss of personal freedoms. If something this big can be taken away from us, from Americans, what's next? I fear there may be no limits. This loss in itself is of course horrible, but I'm terrified that this is seemingly "the warning shot".
And since Roe was overturned, pregnant women have been dying from preventable causes bc doctors are too scared to touch them for fear of losing their license and going to jail.
Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, and Josseli Barnica are a few names of recent deaths caused by the overturn of Roe V Wade. These women deserve to be here today.
Sorry I’ve been busy partying I’ll be back to debunk these and argue how other factors played a role in these young ladies deaths not just the abolishment of roe. v. wade. Which I feel played a very small role if at all. Gimme about four years!
Two elections ago, he didn't have the house, senate, and supreme court to back him. He didn't have a playbook written down for him to follow. HE is only the figurehead for people who want to rule.
I think the nation as a whole has a serious short term memory problem. Blame it on COVID. Also, there’s a big demographic of people on Reddit who were children eight years ago. They don’t even remember what it was really like.
Woman here, just so you’re aware, roe v wade got overturned during the Biden/Harris administration in 2021. that means they had 3 years to revert back to how it was. Trump just wants to leave the decision up to the state. That means, if you live in a state that declares laws abasing abortion, then you’re out of luck, but you also have every option and opportunity to move elsewhere.
please do your research a bit more before spreading propaganda.
For the past decade (as in 10 years, before the start of trumps 1st stint in office) the CIA has been using Ukraine as a base to carry out operations to undermine Russia. Trump was fine with this btw. The MSM knew of this and still sold it to you as an unprovoked attack by Russia.
This country is full of a bunch of useful idiots, truly clueless about what's really going on.
The good news is that people that are this insane are a very small minority, as much as it would seem otherwise on the internet.
The election proved that...yet again. In a completely humiliating way.
People on here were absolutely sure Kamala was going to win by a landslide. Talking about "Red Mirage" the entire time, up until they slowly started to clear out like the Harris rally.
You know who was completely shell shocked and flabbergasted by what happened last night? The Kamala administration. She still hasn't spoken because they don't know what the fuck to say.
"We're Out of Touch with Reality" should be the Democrats' slogan from here on our, starting on Reddit.
It’s literally insane, I agree. I also think it’s weird they believe the majority thinks this way and yet Trump won the majority vote so most people do not in fact think this way.
Cool, I never said it was. I still think it’s better to have legal abortions for the first trimester unilaterally instead of having women dying because they have to carry a kid that wont make it to term. Lifesaving abortions shouldn’t be illegal.
Doesn’t matter if it’s the majority, we have decided it’s ok to let women in Texas die even if there’s no chance of carrying to term, or hell even in miscarriages:
https://people.com/texas-teen-suffering-miscarriage-dies-due-to-abortion-ban-8738512
These people aren’t having abortions as birth control. Why should they suffer? Im for keeping abortion illegal in the third trimester outside of special lifesaving circumstances. Late term abortions for funzies aren’t happening to begin with. If we want to reckon with states deciding what that law is, ok, but it’s ridiculous to assume the reality we have now is a pro life one.
Nothing is mandated though. If that were the case it would have been a nationwide ban years ago. Not saying it can’t happen, but I doubt they would make that decision in the next 4 years
Mandate means one party gets the Senate, House and Presidency. This appears to be a Republican mandate. The same happened in 2016 and they did try and repeal the ACA. Roe v Wade and PP v Casey was still the law so a ban on abortion would have been unconstitutional; now it’s up to the Federal gov’t to decide.
Looks like the house and Senate will be Republican controlled, too. The filibuster is the only thing holding one back, and the Senate could just reject all norms and change the rules to force a vote. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
less than a week ago, an 18 year old girl died in agony because a dead fetus was rotting inside of her and doctors refused to remove it for fear of violating texas abortion laws. she’s not the first or last.
abortion is a right. it is no longer federally protected as of the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022. thus, women in many states have lost that right.
The right to vote, the right to a fair trial, the right to government services, the right to a public education, the right to a public education, the right to use public facilities, freedom of religion, the right to privacy, freedom to buy a house or get a job without discrimination based on our race, color, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity), disability, religion, familial status, national origin, and citizenship status, freedom of thought, freedom from slavery, freedom from torture, freedom from false imprisonment…
I don’t see sucking a fetus out of your body listed anywhere as a “right.”
i’m not playing this game with you. women’s reproductive rights include the right to decide whether to get and/or remain pregnant. women no longer have that right in many states, and women have suffered and will continue to suffer for it.
are you stupid? less than a week ago, an 18 year old girl died in agony because a dead fetus was rotting inside of her and doctors refused to remove it for fear of violating texas abortion laws.
So to answer my question, yes, you apparently slept through Covid because while he didn’t cause the disease, his failure to act quickly to stop the spread of the virus was an embarrassment that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans. His plan was to ignore it and it’ll go away.
Trump shut down border entries from China and you all called him racist and xenophobic for it. Now you claim he didn’t do enough…..ironic.
It has been admitted the masking and social distancing made no impact. They were just used to see how far the sheep would obey. The worst thing Trump did during covid was warp speed and pushing out the clot shots.
you're not very bright. he tried to refuse flights from in from certain countries but he was called racist. turns out one of those countries is where covid originated from. imagine that.
For the record, Medicare Advantage flourished under Trump. Biden has limited Medicare these past 4 years. I’m thrilled he’s out because they will doing a poor job with this sector. No growth and less revenue to the programs. Trump will encourage and push growth in privatized plans. More innovation and better health will come out of this.
Cope and seethe. Reject the will of the people all you want but this is democracy. And the American people have wholeheartedly rejected the liberal regime. Cope and seethe.
Lol every time I see someone write "cope and seethe" like this, I just hear this rushing hiss and can envision a pale, eyeless humanoid with a lampray mouth crawling out of a dark, scummy hole in the ground. Creepy motherfucker.
Is it? I only described a pretty generic cave dwelling amphibian and a whooshing sound, so probably not too far off from what you'd look like given a few more years in your mom's basement, or what one would hear if they put your skull up to their ear like a seashell.
lol you really need to get off this app man. It’s so pathetic that the majority of this echo chamber called Reddit think the country will be some hell hole. Nothing will happen.
Lol comes back in four years and realizes that nothing has changed except for the prices at the grocery store going down a little bit and our national debt decreases after we stop giving other countries trillions of dollars
How will women lose rights over their bodies? He has come out and said he will change nothing and it’s up to the states. 10 states had reproductive rights on their ballots.
And he’ll preface everything he says with, “As President…”, and claim that makes it an official act, just like he’d always have lawyers like Michael Cohen or John Eastman in on his shenanigans (read crimes) so that he could claim attorney-client privilege if the lawyer ever testified against him. Also, in the same way he claimed that he could declassify something just by thinking about declassifying it.
I look forward to the meaning of “Official Acts” being stretched and massaged and sliced and diced until it has no meaning.
There was no change to presidential immunity. Let me break it down for you. Your job is to make cheeseburgers. A new manager comes in and doesn’t like you so they fire you for making cheeseburgers. The supreme court’s ruling says you can’t be fired for doing your job, making cheeseburgers. So the new manager is in the wrong. Now, you sit on your phone for an hour, not your job, and yes you can be fired.
That’s not how the ruling works. This ruling makes it so the person flipping cheeseburger can now do anything they want and the only person who says whether or not that’s ok is their other coworker.
As if adding court justices wasnt a normal functioning part of the presidents duties…you realize Kamala and Biden wanted to add more justices just to get around the fact that Trump simply had good timing and was able to appoint 3 justices.
No, y’all seem to think he even stood a chance to get voted in. The republicans wouldn’t have voted to appoint him, and the speaker knew this. No, reason to waste time on a vote. In retrospect looks we they should have so this talking point would die.
It’s not a talking point. It was a ridiculous break from tradition so that the republicans could hold onto more power. It’s the only thing they care about. But continue your applause as they destroy the middle class and drive this country further into the shitter we’ll be the ones sitting back saying “we told you so”
For a man, this seems so simple to say, doesn’t it? Women are dying because doctors cannot/will not perform life saving care in fear of being arrested. For you, the sun will rise. You people disgust me.
And millions died on his watch. Women are dying at higher rates now thanks to the Christian Taliban. Nothing good will come under his watch. Rich get richer and poor and sick will die.
Things aren’t the same this time around. He has the senate and the judicial branch which has already granted him immunity for official acts and as long as the majority conservative Supreme Court decides whatever he did is an official act, he’s good. Votes are still being counted for the house, but if it goes red, there won’t be any guard rails to hold back what’s coming.
Time will not continue on for marginalized communities and those he has no interest in.
You aren't alone. Destinations seem to be Canada and Europe. These places are going to be amazing with the influx of the best of us. Wishing you peace and joy.
I’m so sorry—I don’t know what else to say except that you and your child are supported by so many (even if, unfortunately, not by the majority, or the government.) We are out here and we stand with you.
I have a trans student this year. She is a precious, joyful light in our classroom. I hope her light continues to shine bright and is never dimmed by hate.
I'm so sad for these children, this is beyond a travesty. Anyone remotely marginalized is a target - it's honestly the sickest thing. The only thing that comes to mind is a revolution... We won't have free elections moving forward- I'm fairly certain of that. Those day are gone... Our backs are against the wall. Ideas?
My heart is so broken for these kids (and adults) who literally fear for their lives. Being queer in the 70s wasn’t easy but I “passed”. Big hugs to your family.
Why is your son so scared? Because he can’t have harmful surgeries at an early age that could put their health at risk long term? Chill. LGBTQ+ rights will be fine. It’s not as bad as the mass media is making you believe. Maybe homeschool if you’re worried about public school or move to a blue state if you’re that distraught about it.
But that’s the state of Texas. Women can go get their abortions in CO, AR, NM. All the states surrounding us. There are no gestational limits in NM, so women who don’t need it for medical reasons can go abort their babies anyway at 39 weeks there.
And clearly you are dense enough yourself to have failed to read Texas Health & Safety code 171.008, section 171.205 that specifically makes exceptions for medical emergencies. And I quote: “sections 171.203 and 171.204 DO NOT APPLY if a physician believes a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance with this sub chapter” (A. General Provisions [Abortion]).
Then they aren’t reading the law fully. Please let your ER/OBGYN docs know about the exception. The fetal heart beat can be present under section 171.205 as long as it is a medical emergency for the mother. It is clear in the law.
Definition of medical emergency isn't clear. No hospital or doctor is going to take a risk on a "it should be interpreted this way but if the court doesn't see it my way I go to jail"
Texas abortion bans are vaguely written and attempts to add specific criteria for "approved" abortions have been blocked. Because there are no specific lists of criteria there's no way for any doctor to know for sure whether or not any particular scenario qualifies for performing abortion with absolutely no legal risk. When a doctor is given the choice of performing a procedure that could risk them spending years or decades in prison and fined into financial extinction, not to mention losing the medical license they spent decades getting, the choice is pretty straightforward. Wait until the very last moment, way past the point where pure medical jurisprudence would say was proper, even though that dramatically increases the risk of death. This is what's been happening with the surge of deaths lately.
The Texas law was specifically written vaguely to achieve this exact outcome.
The proper fix would be to have doctors write new laws that define when an abortion should be done in the best interests of the patient. Instead of waiting until the fetal heartbeat stops, instead allow the abortion when the water breaks prematurely, for example. If it's an ectopic then write into the law guarantees against prosecution for aborting those.
Again…do u not ‘listen’? Trump wants it left up to the state!! Abortions r needed in many instances!! Due to many diff scenarios!! Up to the STATES ppl!! Quit pointing fingers @ folks u apparently kno nuthin about….at least that’s what I’m getting from your mouth @ this time….
At one point it was left up to the states to determine if they wanted to keep slavery or not. State's rights, they said. Even today there are conservatives that want to return the right to keep slaves to the states. The Civil Rights act was another time the federal government had to step in because states wanted the rights to choose for themselves if they wanted to make discrimination and segregation the way of their state.
I know exactly what the supreme court decision means, I also know what it means for women around the country, and they're going to have a hard time. I didn't vote for Trump, but obviously plenty of women did, so that means that they are ok with his policy choices, his judge appointments, and Senate representation. All I'm saying is that people are complaining about the decision not affecting men (which it doesn't) and I'm saying that the women ALSO voted for it.
Abortion was not made illegal. Contrary to the lefts constant rhetoric. The power was returned to the states, as the Constitution mandates. If you want to murder your baby, go to a state that allows it.
If the mother’s life is at risk they will give the woman the care they need to save their life. You’re misinformed and this is another lie being spread around by mass media that’s bought and paid for by Democratic PACs. Don’t let yourself be fooled so much and do your research. Who owns the major networks and look up their PAC contributions. #1 is Harris and DNC. They tried to buy votes through manipulation (comedians, Hollywood, all major news networks are all complicit. They lose money if republicans win). Trump/Vance policies keep in mind the life of the mother. Vance has said a blanket abortion ban is not the answer. How many abortions do you think Trump himself has paid for? He’s not against them. Chillllllllll. Or like someone said, if you’re that worried about it, move to a blue state.
Sun is a constant (for now), what people live through underneath it is a wide spectrum based on location, gender, ethnicity, class, age, religion, country, family and so much more. Sun coming up can be a sign of hope, continuity, or despair. Let’s not forget our personal current circumstance is just chance.
Democracy in government > democracy in party. The former is unconstitutional, the latter isn’t. The latter punishes the candidate; the former punishes the country.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
If the democrats ran a primary maybe they would have known that Harris wasn’t that popular of a candidate… regardless of the legality it was a bad move to let Biden run without a true primary to begin with
To let Biden run without a true primary? No- heMs the incumbent, if he wanted to run he ought to. That’s been the norm in all Presidential history, you don’t run primaries when a President seeks a second term. We are in agreement that Biden ought to have just not sought a second term to begin with, and then they could have a primary.
It’s dead, my man. There are no viable defenses left. The supreme court, congress, there are no checks available. The opposition party is absolutely pathetic and deserves as much blame as just about anyone.
We had a chance to vote. And even then, it was going to be a fight had Trump lost and tried to game the courts. But we couldn’t even get that far. The American population is was too stupid to save themselves.
A corrupt and ignorant country is very obviously what the people want.
So act accordingly. Does no good to pretend otherwise.
It’s not over until it’s over. I agree things are about as bad as they’ve been in a long time, but it can get worse and there’s hope we can pull through. You gain nothing by rolling over and giving up, you have to try. Otherwise you’re as bad as they are.
You move. Leave the state, leave the country. You have no business telling anyone to stick around at what is obviously a losing “try-and-stop-the-bleeding” cause.
The uneducated fucks who voted for a felon deserve precisely what they’re going to get. The rest of us, if you have an education and work a good job, stop supporting these centers of corruption that our country’s red states are. Vote with your feet and get the fuck out of here.
Bold of you to assume that what happens in America wont spell doom for others.
People have the right to do what they want and move where they want, and I have the right time to call them spineless cowards. This is my home and Im going to fight for it as much as I can. If the Ukrainians are willing to die for their home why should it be a privileged position to say we should fight for ours?
what happens in America wont spell doom for others
Never said it wouldn’t. It definitely will change things globally, no doubt. This is a global win for corruption.
But in the short term, the next decade or two, it’ll be much worse in this country. Our allies are going to, to the extent they economically can, take steps to abandon us. Those steps will get bigger over time. We can no longer be relied on. As of today, 2016 was not an aberration – it’s who America is. And with even less guardrails on Trump this time, fucking hell, where we might be by 2028 is mind boggling.
Ukraine isn’t remotely comparable. Ukraine’s aggressor is external. America’s aggressor is internal. Sure would be nice if we could just shoot some missiles! No, we have to, from a minority position, reverse three decades of American cultural, educational, systemic decline. With no power or vehicle for doing so. And an abysmal track record fighting culture battles.
So, stay and fight! Rings awful hollow. And we’re a half-dozen comments in here, and you haven’t exactly articulated what this “fight” is. Let’s… knock even more doors….? Let’s… do even more voter drives…? Trump’s 200th disqualifying act will SURELY be the one that resonates with voters!!!
Fact is – a lot of people in this country are enjoying being ignorant and angry. Most of them, apparently.
I don’t know the answer, but fleeing the country or being apathetic or doomer solves nothing. Like I said, I’ll stay and do whatever I need to. Im an educated straight white man, I feel like if anyone ought to stay to help whoever cant leave it’s someone who is like me. If we have to protest we can protest. If we have to talk to more people or show them the truth of the damage of Trump’s policies until we’re blue in the face, we’ll do that. Bare minimum, someone in this country needs to stand up for truth and basing ourselves in reality. Sorry, but it’s the kind of thing I think that’s worth fighting and living for, even if it’s all for nothing. We’re in this mess because people don’t want to take responsibility for their democracy. I refuse to be that kind of person.
I would have posted your exact first paragraph in 2016 or 2018. Today? No, we’ve seen too much. This level of stupidity is what American society, in red states at least, wants.
I’m not leaving the country (yet) but I’m also not staying in a state where this level of insanity is not just culturally acceptable but popular
You got a life to live, and every institution supposed to protect against this kind of shit has failed us. Liberals who stay in Trump states are consenting that these policies, his/Cruz/Abbott’s rhetoric, is livable. No, thanks.
Lol the glee you guys get out of being dumb as fuck is astounding. California or NY? What are you talking about? People talk about “liberal bubbles,” it’s like a script - you all say the exact same shit.
There is a day when being massively ignorant is going to catch up with you. But progressive culture is not the flaming bag of shit that conservative culture has become, we usually care about people and want good things for folks, so even then, we won’t dunk on you the way you chuds are gleefully telling yourselves you’re doing today.
That said, some delightful irony all over when that day comes.
Im in a red state because I have to for school. Ive got 4.5 years of grad school to go. I dont consent to any of these policies and I’ll fight against them.
I see no good reason to give up. America has survived so much, there’s no reason to believe we can’t survive this. Again, burning it down and building something new is much harder than fixing what’s broken, even 4 years from now. Look at Germany. Not the most encouraging comparison, but it makes it all the more important that we fight and refuse to let them roll us over. It’s gonna get a hell of a lot worse, and we should be there for the people who have it the worst.
Yes I am. We for sure wont if everyone rolls over like you are doing. It’s worth trying, so stop feeling sorry for yourself. Plenty of people in history have had it worse. Owe it to them to do your part.
Then why do you care? Obviously I can’t prove it but neither can you. If you left you can’t vote on anything so why care? Unless you have dual citizenship then in that care why keep it if you left? We don’t want people that run when it gets tough. And if you did renounce your citizenship then stay out of our politics.
Yeah have that hope LMFAO that's going to get you real far oh and we are bad because we kicked your fucking ass by a landslide it was one of the worst beatings ever second only to Ronald Reagan the only thing that was bad was you running and didn't have a fucking clue what to do about anything
I'd say right on time. The past 4 years, Joe Biden was senile and our government was run lock, stock and barrel by an unelected and even unnamed cabal. It was a takeover of our democracy.
Ummmmmmm. Maybe until panem et circuses. Until then they were very conservative. Until they no longer exercised any kind of self restraint they were advancing.
Orgies, gluttonous feasts for the rich, governmental overreach, constant wars and land grabs….not trolling, just stating facts. But anyway, enjoy the next 4+ years 😊😁
That's not what I'm saying. He did get democratically elected, I am in no way denying that for a second and I think Kamala Harris should certify the vote. What I'm worried about is if he'll undermine democracy in this term the way he did when he left office 4 years ago. Dismantling the press, going after his political opponents, wielding Presidential immunity, anything else that undermines free and fair elections going forward and the ability to make informed choices- that's what I worry about.
We lost democracy on Nov. 5, 2024. That vial man, who ended his campaign by illustrating how to govern a blow job will destroy our nation. He will never leave the White House. How the fuck does someone attempt to violently overthrow Congress, causing death and injury to many, with no repercussions? God Save us!
Your stupidhe got way more votes he got more woman votes , he got more black votes, he got more latino votes and won the popular election einstein lmao
He won the popular vote yes but he didn’t get the same amount of votes as he did in 2020. So lots of republicans that hate him moved somewhere else. And Kamala only got 66 million compared to Biden 81 million. But Trump only got 72 million compared to the 74 million in 2020. So he lost 2 million votes. Simple math.
Well, because he ran on an agenda and a record that was so anti-democracy, he more or less has precedent to strip it away.
So much self-reassurance today, I hope people spend at least as much time considering what might actually happen within the next four years and beyond.
I mean he did try and kill his own VP by sicking s violent mob after him, he’s said he’ll be dictator on day 1, and he plans on replacing everyone in the government with sycophants while also being able to test the new limits of the SC’s Presidential immunity ruling. We don’t know that democracy is dead yet, but it’s likely in critical condition.
This is the answer. It doesn’t matter politically it’s about what WE do to keep America a thriving country and what WE can do to better ourselves and help one another. People get so consumed by media that it drives them mad. We will have to work together no matter who ends up elected in order to maintain and progress our civilization as it scales. In this case the American people have decided that President Trump will be the best to lead us through the next four years. Which in my opinion was the best decision.
It absolutely was not considering the myriad of ways he has tried and will probably try again to upend democracy. But I love this country and I’ll do my part to make it hurt just a bit less if I can.
Respectively, I do not understand anyone’s claims about upending democracy. I have not seen any indication that he did anything in his previous presidency that would be considered upending democracy. I believe it is media and media alone that has convinced and contributed to public opinion on this man as well as create mass hysteria around this opinion that they influenced people to believe. Some examples are censorship of his speech, calling him a white supremacist, comparing him to Hitler and so on. Media has been trying to smear him for nearly two decades and here we are once again the American people have nominated him for president.
Respectfully, I don’t know if you’re at all aware of the false electors scheme around Jan 6th. Even the media doesn’t seem to report on this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
It’s a representative democratic republic, thank you social studies teacher from 6th grade. Democracy is not a hard defined system, it’s a classification of systems. The US has free and fair elections, it is fairly trivial to argue it is under that umbrella.
It is the norm. We just used to be way smaller groups. Agriculture and how we formed around the concept built the world we live in today. Most things we think of as "human nature" are adaptive to living in society we manifested. So thinking so myopic is already missing the forest for the trees.
We used to live in way smaller groups that continually fought for survival against other smaller groups. The concept of living a life where one isn't regularly exposed to threats to one's security is an anomaly of human history.
I mean, 2020 was kind of an anomaly, no? We had mail in ballots in more states, and it's much less difficult for a marginal voter to send in a ballot than to wait in line for an hour at a polling station. People forget that 2020 was razor thin too- several swing states were won with a fraction of a percent, Georgia famously by only 11,000 votes.
I think the problem is less apathy and more messaging. There's a whole swathe of Trump voters who voted for Democrats in other positions in this election; there are Democrats in positions of power in deeply red states like Kentucky's Andy Beshear. There are so many voters who went for Obama who are loyal to Trump now. Democrats have for three elections in a row run as the party against Trump, but Trump connects to them somehow. We have to figure out why if we want to get out of this in 4 years, assuming we still have that chance.
In the meantime, we can't blame each other or turn on each other. I think this is the wake up call to work and fight with dignity going forward. All we have is each other.
Every institution (family, school, work) in your life has been anti-democratic.
The ONLY time you get to practice "democracy" within our Constitutional Republic is on election day. Well... that and your party's primary.... but something tells me you were probably okay with your party stomping on your right to democratically choose who would represent your party in yesterday's election.
You should probably work to keep Democracy alive within the Democratic party. Afterall, Bernie Sanders was the heir apparent in 2016. For 2024, I guess we'll never know what people on your side of the aisle actually wanted since the freedom to choose was taken away from you by your party's overlords.
So first, not every institution in life needs to be democratic. When we say democracy is good, that doesn’t apply to every institution- school probably shouldn’t be democratic, the family probably shouldn’t be either. That has no relevance to what system of government is most effective in furthering the relationship between the power of the state and the check on the state of that power- the two can expand together slowly when people believe they have some power to amend the system and control what is and isn’t expanded, and the state is motivated to serve well to have that power expanded. Democracy so far does a pretty good job of that, but it’s only one piece of a larger puzzle- you can’t create these institutions whole-cloth and expect them to work.
As for the Kamala taking the nomination situation, it can certainly be argued as somewhat antidemocratic. I think there’s a general consensus that if Biden stepped down the VP would be the obvious choice, and she did get the vote of the superdelegates. But I don’t actually disagree with you- I think Biden should have made it his intent from the beginning to run as a one term President, and I actually thought he would in 2020. And a primary would have been nice, though I personally would not vote for Sanders in a million years in such a primary.
But parties are not required by our system of government to be democratic either- they can choose their nominees however, it just makes sense that a democratic process fits a democratic government. What matters more to me is the democratic process of government being followed- the peaceful transition of power, acknowledgment that we have to unite behind the winner of the election to govern us as well as possible, that sort of thing (things that Trump has consistently lit a dumpster fire over). It’s way more concerning to me that a President would try and hold on to power by hatching a fake electors plot involving threatening his own VP with a violent mob after lying to his entire base about an election his own AG said was the fairest in history. Parties being antidemocratic get punished with losing elections; Presidents being antidemocratic get rewarded at the expense of the institutions that hold our country together.
It means time goes on…
My father always taught me, “things are not as good or bad as they first appear.”
Seems like a lot of folks could use this advice today.
Solomon would disagree. He would say there is nothing new under the sun. And his conclusion of our lives lived on earth would be: “Fear God, and keep His commandments”. Ecclesiastes is short enough to read in an hour.
Thanks, grew up religious and have read the Bible a few times. :)
I don’t think Solomon could have foreseen TikTok, but I think you’re trying to say life is meaningless, fear God, go to Temple on Saturday, don’t have sex on my period, don’t wear mixed cloth and it’s a life well lived? (Only slightly joking)
Just because I’ve got a pretty easy normal life doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy for others.
That is my point. People are crying and thinking that their lives are not destroyed. People are happy and looking forward to a new future. Either way, the sun will come up and it will set. Day after day after day after day. We will all move on, good, bad, and ugly.
The people whose lives are destroyed won’t move on though. Those with family and loved ones affected aren’t going to view this as just another day. Moving on isn’t an option for everyone.
Yeah well you probably never written a single line of code (not even a print statement), coding takes a bit of thinking, granted what I do is pretty basic for programming standards, but if you can write a OS kernel from scratch by yourself you probably are smarter than me
Sorry political discourse doesn't bring me much joy, both sides are kinda funny af tho. I also voted for a very unpopular political party knowing they wouldn't win, that's how much I care about this shitty pseudo-democratic two party system where you are basically voting for either a stale bucket of piss or a pile of warm shit infested with pin worms
“Sorry political discourse doesn't bring me much joy” stopped reading after this.
Too many people are deeply unserious and have the impulse management of a toddler in front of a jingling set of keys. There’s still time to change for y’all, but hopefully it’s not too little too late down the line.
Wtf is y'all? Probably should've read a little, because I said I didn't vote for Trump.
Not sure how you can take this two party system seriously, it is such a joke. Both sides want to take turns ass raping you without lube, only differences are the positions.
Read more. I’ll get downvoted, this is a boogeyman.
TeaKingMac you are correct that during the overturn when the states weren’t settled, mothers did die. That’s horrible, nothing can change that past.
Don’t think so poorly of your countrymen. No one reasonable (majority anywhere) wants mothers dying.
First of all, that is complete and total BS. In the State of Texas, you can get an abortion if it is life-threatening. I know from personal experience.
I’m lazy and don’t want to read 38 pages of a lawsuit. But, I did scan over that link. I was ignorant and under informed on this issue.
I believe part of the problem ( if not most of the problem) stems from bad newscasts. If a news station- any news station- is going to run a story on how Texas mothers are dying because doctors are afraid to perform a life saving abortion, then GODDAMNIT they better show the legislation that exist and report the full story. Now, I don’t know what the real story is.
I’m pro-choice but like, there are more issues beyond just abortion. At the end of the day, Kamalla is part of the regime in power (even if you want to claim other root causes) while housing and grocery prices became simply unconscionable.
Companies and markets set prices. That is capitalism. Governments set prices in a communist system. The US isn't communist despite what conservatives claim.
Mass deportations, defunding public education (which is the main source of social services for kids), eliminating protections/rights for LGTQ people, making health decisions illegal for women… if you or people you love haven’t been affected yet you will be.
Mass deportations you mean to the millions that are here illegally yes their asses should go back to where they came from . Are they special does everyone else do it legally? So should they . It tells me what type of person you are ,break the law to get what you want. Sorry dont work that way
Wait til they're having to tell wives about pregnant affair partners and explain that they're now on the hook for child support. That's when all of this will make our outrage make sense to people like ones in these comments.
Does it become more of a problem once it affects you or someone you love? Or is this a general life sucks and then we die philosophy? Cause I get nihilism, as long as it’s universal including one’s self.
Life is what you make it. Hate Trump or love him, tomorrow will come. Plain and simple. It is your choice if your life will be miserable because of the election, not mine.
What you don't seem to understand is that many people will not have that privilege.
And, if you don't believe me, try talking to the families of the Texas women who died this month of treatable pregnancy complications because the party that just won decided to punish women. They don't have that option.
I agree, but I was talking about how it is chance to be born into the family/society/country we happen to exist in. For example, it is purely by chance of birth that I’m not affected by DACA, but I can recognize that someone who is has a very different life circumstance, decisions to make, and is affected differently by politics.
I know it's hard to believe, but there's this thing called the "Supreme Court", so they are filled with the president's (at the time the old justices are retiring) choice of people, and well...they denied him from being able to go through fully with the plan. Shocker the 7 Republican justices denied it, but it happened and here we all are needing 16x more money to complete a degree than 24 years ago in an economy where rich business owners are able to destroy jobs and raise prices to keep up with their ever constant growing salary + bonus.
If you have any other questions, feel free to keep asking, I'm sure you're looking for actual answers and not just trying to be another gross biased American :)
If they kept going and you fit within their range for eligibility (make under $250k married or $125k individual, and some other Eligibility requirements if you've been out of school for over 12 years and if you've received a pell grant and had a household income above a certain threshold) then yes you would have been reimbursed up to $20k even if you've paid it all off and his plan detailed where the taxes and budget cuts would come from (12% from defense, 6% of that coming from what we give to Israel, a tax on business owners/the taxes the business owners & execs are SUPPOSED to pay would be enforced, and a new law that dictates if a religious temple and their leader(s) are making an extreme amount, they would no longer be tax exempt, especially on their million dollar homes).
It wouldn't all be paid off at once clearly, it went over a 6 year plan (or longer...its been a bit considering the 12 court hearings about it being denied), and hell there's worse things our taxes are being spent on like when they tried to force people to hire right after covid restrictions but them businesses found a loophole and just had "hiring" signs up and interviewed 10 people a month but never took anyone on and pocketed the money, or the fact that $290 million A YEAR is spent on forgiving PPP loans (for starting businesses) to our politicians, or when the "small business act" was founded in 2020 to save small businesses impacted, they put stupid levels of restrictions that the business owners couldn't even get through without a small team (i should, know it came out of a dear friend's mouth who lost his pride and joy business to it) but larger businesses were able to use subsidiary companies and ate the entire budget up meaning rich people got richer.
So because of corruption and other wasteful spending we should have the government hand out money to certain people but not others? What about people who didn't go to school because they didn't want loans? Were they going to be reimbursed too? I'm not sure what any of that has to do specifically with student loans.
So the issue that is at hand is the fact that schools are ran like business. To graduate with a Bachelors (while taking your basics at a community/junior college) is $47k worth of loans, meanwhile the job market for a lot of jobs has faltered HARD meaning people are literally dying trying to have the initiative to get a better job (that and a lot of jobs still require an associate's at minimum while paying under $20/hr). So the schools were being targeted with taxes to try and lower the amount of loans future students would have to deal with, and then use that taxed money to help students who are now struggling if that makes any sense.
To "Why should students get help but not others?" again, it's not like they didn't try, but they got denied. Look at what happened to Insulin, it used to cost $1000 for A MONTH supply....look at that, they introduced a bill limiting how much they could charge, it's now $35 (at first for only Medicaid, but they've added rebates to certain companies to make more people be able to get it....despite the 43 Republicans who voted against the bill, shocker, most of those congress members have been lobbied by healthcare businesses, but a 2nd bill came out a year later to make EVERY business cap Insulin to $35, but 197 republicans blocked it...again "shocker").
So because they weren't able to help EVERYONE with a different LIFE SAVING prescription, does that mean we shouldn't use time and money to help one at a time? We either need to help EVERYONE at once or nobody at all? Nah, that's not how to think or else nothing ever gets done....
Side note it's not like he (along with Kamala who was going to enact it in her plan for the Economy and taxes) didn't TRY to help LITERALLY EVERYONE with lowering gas, groceries, etc. They were going to *try* to cap the amount that executives could make, meaning there'd be no reason for these execs to increase prices if they don't get any personal gain out of it and make how much they can earn based off of factors like "how many jobs are within the company? How much of your product/service is being sold to people?" and so on.
Be ready for it to be more than half your income. Part of the Dems problem was not bragging about the suit against RealPage. But at the end of the day, big donors like Mark Cuban won't stand for that messaging. And it is clear the National Democratic Party would rather cater to them than the public. Republicans are still worse. But the people feel the contradictive meesaging currently in the national platform of the Dems. Clearly by Tump winning the popular vote.
But after calling Conservatives garbage, fascists, Nazis, racists, misogynists, homophobes, etc, do you believe the Left deserves any of that from those they attacked?
That seems like circular reasoning. If the republican party is against same sex relationships, uses one race as the enemy, doesn't allow women freedom over their bodies, etc.
Then why wouldn't they be called that? And if they are called that why would the response be: they called me homophobic etc so I'm going to prove them right and vote against their rights?
Empathy doesn’t mean pitying self-made victims. I don’t pity a man who sex changed his child and proceeded to mention it all over Reddit for virtue points lmao
Yep, I'm waiting for the repeal on the marriage decision which I know is coming. I don't know where that stacks up after getting rid of birth control and getting rid of ADA & ACA and the pre-existing condition clause being reinstated.
It looks like the Comstock Act is back on the table. With a full stock of conservative judges all the way up to SCOTUS there's literally nothing to stop undoing all of the decisions that overturned many Comstock laws.
They can, and they will. The nature of unchecked power is that it runs rampant. There have been only very, very rare cases of benevolent dictatorships in human history. Hitler and Putin are very much the representative model when it comes to the levels of depravity that humans can do. Our founding fathers realized this when they created the Constitution and form of government we had. No branch had ultimate power, not until January next year that is. As an Official Act Trump can order the killing of the entire Biden family, and he has enough loyal followers that nobody would say no to that order, or at least, not say it more than once. Will he? I dunno, but he will be the first President in American history with the ability to do that and get away with it.
We all make choices. That’s is their decision and their right to choose that lifestyle. Do what your wallet can afford. I hope for the best future possible for everyone. I personally don’t agree with that and I certainly don’t think it’s the government’s responsibility to either.
It’s a feeling.. I’m attracted to females.. people can feel whatever they want as long as it’s within legal and moral boundaries. And if those people have feelings that stray away from legal or moral norms then that’s also fine as long as they understand the ramifications for their actions.
Stocks are always up during an election year so I'm not surprised. I won't be surprised when they actually did by the end of first quarter 2025. So I'd be buying bonds if I were you.
That’s the market as a whole. “MY” Portfolio had tripled since open this morning. “MY” crypto is doing even better.. there can you read that better than my first post. I’m pretty sure I wasn’t talking about the market as a whole.
The economy is booming 💚📈🔼 Turn on CNBC if you haven’t yet people. We are going to be okay! Social issues are important too, just continue to stand for what you believe is right. 🏳️🌈❤️🖤🤝🇺🇸 We are all Americans here. United we should be, not divided!
Finally someone who understands!!! The first letter in USA stands for United. Despite what MSM might want you to believe the world is not going to end. Stand together with your loved ones and start by talking to each other with respect and dignity. We all have to get along with each other because there’s no more room for hate.
That was my philosophy I choose to abide by. If my candidate won, I'd be getting up and going to work on Wednesday. If my candidate lost, I'd be getting up and going to work on Wednesday.
Well last year was the first time I’ve ever owed more than $100, and I owed $4500 with no changes to anything. I got money back every year trump was in office, so I beg to differ. I’ll let you know next year though.
Which then results in downturns in poorer areas and a general decline of infrastructure…yay. Let’s centralize all the money to the richest of the rich guys!
He plans to get rid of the private central bank called "The Federal Reserve" that profits from the fiat currency it creates in its incestuous relationship with the Treasury department. Who owns the Fed?
Remove the illegal immigrants.
Stopping the WEF plans of reducing the US and the world's population.
Stop the Chinafication of the US. I don't want a social credit score where the powers that be can stop me from buying system by forcing us to us the Central Bank Digital Currency.
Stop the endless wars that only benefits the bankers that fund both sides of the warring parties.
Stop DEI,
Stop men from being in women's sports.
Stop the transexual insanity for children.
We have been contributing to carbon emissions by letting countries like China do our manufacturing. They’re the ones who are polluting and contributing to the climate change. We are the cleanest nation in the world compared to others. They need to fix their policies, it’s not just us!
The act of y’all manufacturing grievances to fulfill your delusional beliefs has become stale. Try getting out of your hive mind community and observe reality. Trump 24 and the country spoke loud and clear. Popular Vote win put the cherry on top. Texas Latinos voted huge for Trump. Flipping counties that haven’t voted Republican since the 1800’s. You pushed your progressive policies too far and the country is done with the nonsense.
Considering I design EV’s, that would be a no. Nice try at a gotcha though. I am suggesting that people done listening to people yell from the top of their lungs about how we have to act now because the world is going to end. People like AOC making one proclamation after another and none have come true. People are sick of the Climate Change hypocrisy and hysteria. Sick of seeing politicians and celebrities preach about how dire things are, but yet they continue to build beach front properties, waste resources on houses they aren’t even currently living in and travel around the world producing more carbon emissions in one trip than the vast majority of people combined. EV mandates have caused a massive backlash too. Not because people hate the cars. It’s because the it’s the government making mandatory changes that the average citizen can see we are not even close to being anywhere near ready for. Even Elon knows that the infrastructure is not close. Then the 30kw charge per mile tax to replace a gas tax on top of rising charging prices are going to make the EV cost benefit null and void. People see rising costs of everything under the guise of climate change and they are done. The government over reached and the American people said enough.
See that's the problem. Instead of moving on and being at peace with the results, you wish ill will to random people. You are the epitome of that person who got Peanut the squirrel killed. People like you is what's wrong in this world. Rather have the world burn if they're not happy.
Just because some assholes did what they did on Jan 6th doesn't define all Republicans.
A lot of civilized Republicans were embarrassed that day. I was one of them. A lot of Democrats were not convinced that Harris did enough when she was vice president and in her campaign to sway their minds. You can get mad at Republicans, but Democrats in different states said enough was enough and voted Republicans. The ball is in Trump court. Don't wish the country ill will to prove a point.
Compare and contrast both sides and consider context. ABC, CNN, MSNBC (they're the worst), are all left owned and blatantly lie to their viewer base. The View is awful and do nothing but lie to emotional voters. I won't recommend Fox news, because they can be pretty bad at times. You really need to view the source material of whatever they report on and see things for what they REALLY are. Like Trump's comment about Liz Cheney. All the corrupt news media stations were saying he was threatening and speaking violently about her, when in reality he was calling her a "war hawk, and saying she wouldn't be so gung ho about sending Americans to war if she herself had to face the enemy with rifles pointing at her in combat.
I do watch a few select people that are highly intelligent, like Ben Shapiro, that show you what the media says and then shows you the full, unedited clip of what was really said so that you aren't mislead. Legacy media has become corrupt over time. You can tell just through their vernacular.
You sources like Ground News and All Sides media outlets to get news articles of the same topic. Nothing wrong with ABC news, but if that's your only news source then you're missing out on information. Also, using news source from the view of the other countries is another good way to get unbiased opinions.
It honestly doesn't matter where, more so that you have a wide variety.
I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and then a ton of smaller, independent sources. It makes it quite clear who is biased and who does their best to control that bias. If left-leaning news isn't covering a story, ask why not. Same with right-wing.
I also like to play a game when listening to news. I listen to what they say, then ask myself "how does this person benefit from me believing them?"
You'll find you cling to a few news sources for a while, realize they're not as great as you thought, so you reduce that channel and begin being skeptical.
Skepticism is the greatest pathway to truth. Question everything, but then go digging for the truth.
As someone who used to exclusively listen to left-leaning news, this is what led me to be independent instead of tied to a single party.
Man f them. Aint no reasoning with these low lifes. They want to wish harm on people who voted for Donald Trump we are all armed so let them talk. They not gonna bully me so dont bother reasoning with them
So then what does that say about the Democratic party? The people of the United States rather see someone who has pending charges in office. But make no mistake, a lot of politicians should be felons that are in office right now through both parties
Oh, don’t get me wrong—our elections have always been about picking the lesser evil. I don’t believe a single damn one of them is without flaws. I just can’t remember a presidential candidate more overtly evil than this one.
I was a straight ticket republican voter, before this guy. But he turned the party into something unrecognizable, and it makes me sick to see. The republican party used to be about accountability and self-sufficiency. It used to have dignity, integrity, and honor. Or at least I thought it did. Now it’s a fucking caricature, and I’ll never forgive him and his cronies for that.
They “attacked” the capital… a handful of unarmed citizens. It was more like trespassing than the left has blown up into a half-assed insurrection.
Meanwhile, people get punched for wearing MAGA gear, Maxine Waters endorses the harassment of Trump supporters, and riots riots riots riots. Don’t lay that BS on conservatives. Liberals are the violent ones.
Exactly. More violent assaults have been committed by the left than 100x the fake insurrection. Which, btw, was executed by the democrats. Speaking of executions, do we still have that law for traitors?
Rioting every time there’s something they vaguely disagree with is civil? There’s a reason blue cities board up windows every time something happens lmfao.
Yea, and fuck that person. Just because I'm Republican doesn't mean I agree with an asshole who had the audacity to do something like that. For all I know the owner of that squirrel is a Democrat and I just feel bad for him.
But it's a scary where the government can just come into your home based on something like that is atrocious.
Right on 👍🏼!!! Some ppl, there’s just no hope for them!! They like to argue, fight n condemn any n all things they don’t understand or don’t want to even learn about…not even any compensation thoughts…
Hmmmm, maybe it’s people like Trump, who vows violent revenge on those who oppose him, and the mob that cheers him on, who are actually what is wrong with this world.
That's not my problem and it shouldn't be your problem who Trump decides to go after to the people that oppose him. I "we" have to worry about ourselves and our family. If you voted for Harris in believing that your life would be better for it, I respect that. We just need to move on and hopefully America and the world will thrive.
For me it helps to not focus on myself and be thankful. Grateful I’m not Ukrainian or Palestinian because their worlds are gonna get even more effed up than mine will or our small family owned business.
I'm with you. That may be the only way out... is for us ALL to suffer so those people will see they had a hand in this and they can't blame shit in the Dems anymore. They own it. Sadly we will all pay for their admission to the circus!
When he won the 1st time, I removed myself from the organ donor lists. Now I won't even donate blood, time or anything else. Let em get it from their president.
Ah yes, because a conviction in a civil court means much of anything. Prosecution in a court that the old prosecutor said shouldn't even have been brought is a thing.
I enjoy that you left bigotry out, because that is exactly what you are doing.
More than half of the country rebuked the Biden Harris administration in massive ways last night. You think that they're all lining up to be racists?
That’s nothing new you liberals have been trying to figure out how the world works and moves forward for an eternity. Here is your answer: Watch and learn.
Well. The wife and I wanted to have kids. But that can't happen anymore. Not in this country. She is terrified there will be a complication and that she'll die as a result of a lack of care.
Explain cheaper groceries,trump and all his rich buddies don’t like money? and are gonna forgo record breaking profits? this is such a right wing talking point that makes zero sense.. I really need to hear this explained to me
Because a lot of our grocery products like say beef, are imported from other countries, even though we produce more beef than any other country in the world. Tariffs would discourage this business practice by big AG, and encourage sourcing from local businesses. I’m not confident if it’ll work out that way or not, but I know it’s better than higher taxes and continuing to fund proxy wars like the Democrats have been doing.
Rich people are always going to be greedy, there’s no stopping that. Have you ever asked why Trump was almost assassinated twice and it never got any news coverage? The only presidents that have been assassinated in U.S. history have been the ones to disrupt the status quo, and the majority of Americans have spoken that the status quo isn’t working for us. We’ll have to wait and see if what comes after is for better or for worse.
It really didn’t tho, it didn’t even make a full week on the news cycle. The 2nd one was a blip. If you were honest with yourself you’d be able to admit that no matter your feelings on Trump.
And this makes things cheaper HOW? If it was cheaper before to import something, and then importing something becomes more expensive, that means getting it locally would still be more expensive than it is now, just less expensive than the added tariffs on imported products.
Reminder: tariffs are taxes paid by US importers on imported products, not taxes on exported goods
Yes but you’re forgetting the important part that the money is circulated within our own economy instead of other country’s economy. The companies maintain control of the supply by importing, and if their prices are comparable to local sources then you can pay the farmers and ranchers and regional distributors directly instead of paying extra to the corporate middle man.
Corporations will always try to screw us, the only way to beat them is to rely on them less and rely on each other more.
I never said they would be cheaper, I said you would be able to afford them again.
Once monopolies increase prices, there's little we could do to force them to lower them. What was Kamala's plan to stop the inflation that her admin created? Raise corporate taxes? That'll just inflate the prices even more. If you have more money in your pocket though, you can choose to keep feeding the corporation or choose to spend it on actual human beings. Your money, your choice. Anyways I gotta go back to my job now, you know, to make money. You should try it lol
They can’t. And it doesn’t matter that they can’t. Apparently a lot of people are mad as hell about having a competent and generally well-intentioned president
Unless the tariffs and deportations he has proposed are implemented (which was probably all talk, but).
What do you think happens to the cost of goods when the cheap illegal labor that works at farms is deported? Or when Mexico pays tariffs on the goods we get from there? You think the businesses are going to eat those costs? No, they pass them on to the consumer.
What do you think happens to the cost of goods when the cheap illegal labor that works at farms is deported?
We already know what happens when the supply of migrant labor is removed from farms, we've done this experiment in Alabama and Florida. The result was the same both times, millions of dollars of crops rotting in the fields and farmer bankruptcies. The problem you have is that you think of migrant farm jobs being the same as a job at McDonald's, go to work every day and get a regular paycheck. That makes you think that all farmers have to do is raise what they pay and the American workers will flood in to do the job.
You couldn't be more wrong.
The reason why the experiments failed is because farm work is extremely intermittent. Imagine that McDonald's only being open a couple weeks at a time, maybe twice a year. Your mythical American worker will need to be paid enough in those few weeks to cover all their living expenses for the year. Immigrant workers make do because they travel all over the country following the harvests during the summer and fall, then go back home to Mexico where the money they earned goes a whole lot further. No American is interested in following the harvests around the country, then trying to live the rest of the time back home on what they earned. Farmers certainly can't afford to pay a local a year's worth of McDonald's wages for a few week's work. And even if they could, no American is going to be paying $50 for a tomato, head of lettuce, or an apple. Our agricultural sector cannot exist without migrant labor. Get rid of the migrants and the farmers go bankrupt and out of business.
Yes as a business owner requiring goods from China, raising tariffs raises the cost of our tile & wallpaper. That’s what happened before and it doesn’t go back down either. Like health insurance, once it’s up it stays up.
Or when Mexico pays tariffs on the goods we get from there?
Minor correction, it's Americans that pay for the tariffs. But yes, the American companies that import goods will pass on the tariffs to consumers.
The theory is that companies are encouraged to source those goods elsewhere or make them in the US, but making things in the US isn't going to happen overnight, and definitely isn't going to be cheaper.
And anyone with even basic understanding of economics knows that inflation was actually handled well under Biden.
We had an unprecedented, historic event that caused inflation. The fact the inflation came down and we didn't have a deep recession is kind of a miracle.
A historic event that was predicated by funding to the Chinese lab by Democratic officials. Then the response was bungled by giving away billions that led to historic inflation. Let’s get our facts straight. Of course, inconvenient truths are something democrats are expert at gaslighting and avoiding.
That is exactly what I have been trying to say. The world is not going to end in a firey explosion. For some things we'll get better for some things we'll get worse. The point is everyone moves on.
Every indication of tariffs, corporate tax cuts, rich tax cuts, and restriction of immigration will spike the cost of everything.
The gutting of the federal government and its agencies will expose every American to greater risk at the leisure of corporate revenues. Enjoy the new versions of lead paint and lakes in fire.
The global environment is virtually certain to be upended and Trump will bail on NATO and align with Russia. Ukraine and Taiwan will be Russian and Chinese states.
Women are dying of sepsis bc they're being denied abortions for terminal fetuses. Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, Josseli Branica. 3 women who died recently in Texas and Georgia after being forced to carry their terminal pregnancies until they died painfully, bodies fully overcome with sepsis. 3 ER visits later and Nevaeh's mom watched her die in a hospital bed, bleeding profusely from her groin, baby finally miscarried but it was too late, black blood dripping from her nose and mouth as septic shock finally killed her.
This is what people are scared of. This is what Trump is doing to our country. This is how women died 80 years ago, when segregation was still a thing.
The swing states were very close. The final tallies are not done being counted. This race WAS very close, despite how the electoral college works. The tales will be woven that he was ushered in in a great surge, but the numbers say he eeked it out.
Yet the sun did rise
As always, the curious soul.
Watch it blink.
It espies the rise of hate and lies,
But is wont to rise again.
For my part, I have done just that.
All that I can and all to plan,
Yet my daughters shake with fear.
Yeah, but it will once humanity has completely died off as well, so what the fuck does that help? The sun comes up because it has to, whether on a good world or an evil one. Saying the sun will come up is the same as saying my alarm will go off for work. It has zero effect on the morality of this world. But now I have to wake up in the morning and worry about my family. The sun coming up is comforting in scifi, but not the real world…yes the fucking sun comes up every day, but does it rise on a world with good people, or bad people? Does it rise for the living, or the dead? Does it rise for just us, or also our fellow man? The sun is a cold bitch and rises for no one…it just rises because it has to. But we have choices. We can choose not to rise. We can choose to do or do not. The sun is nothing to us other than a fucking alarm clock.
My rights are actively disappearing and I hear propaganda about myself on the TV every day as well as receiving propaganda mail, I cannot live like this seeing lies about my minority plastered all over everyday media as if it's some simple fact of life now
it's a privilege to be unbothered by what another trump presidency means for this nation. many women, lgbt, and minority folks are scared for their basic human rights because trump and his people have already specifically stated that they are going to target us
the fear mongering is hilarious, just like it was when he was president in 2016. nothing fundamental will change with a vast majority of people's lives.
2016 he had competent people working in the Whitehouse who could keep him in check. He has his "soldiers" now that will do whatever he says without question now. That's the difference.
So the covid pandemic = nothing fundamental changed? Were you alive in 2008? Have you read about wars before? Do you really think stability is a given?
Your point is valid, but at the same time maddening as I’ve been complaining for years that our biggest problem as a nation is treating/supporting our political parties like a favorite sports team. Whether the Cowboys win or lose affects nothing in my life. Quite the opposite with political parties. It’s already affecting child-bearing women in this state. So incredibly short-sighted for Republican voters.
Disagree that it's short-sighted for Republicans. There are other issues other than abortion, but I do agree that the abortion issue is draconian for them.
I’ve been reading all this on here, I got one question.
Does anyone on this entire forum have any idea the potential dangers to the country that millions of undocumented illegals, drugs, gangs, sex slaves, potential terriorist etc will have? Do you know how many decades, dollars and lives will be affected by the lack of border control by the current administration?
Saw the maps of the shift and a good 70% at the least shifted towards Trump. Here in Texas, every single metropolitan area shifted towards Trump. Every single one. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso. Massive disaster across the board for democrats.
That’s also because people don’t understand that the federal reserve is not part of the federal government and the president has absolutely no power over interest rates.
To be fair “taxing the rich” would have the same implications. You can’t add taxes or tariffs to business owners or corporations and not expect the cost to roll to the consumer. Both sides are running on economic stances that don’t make any sense and don’t solve the problem.
Maybe Biden should have fucking done something about it instead of saying everything is fine because the stocks owned by their billionaire donors were up. Stop blaming powerless people trying to live their lives and blame those in power. Leftist like me hated this admin and yet we were the only ones waving red flags about their economic policy, Israel policy, and how useless bringing out all those Republicans and billionaires were. Only 1% of Republicans switched votes in 2024 compared to 2020.
Leftists like you do nothing but rant online and post trauma porn of dying Palestinians on your timeline with zero action. Stop white knighting. What part of my comment suggested I was glorifying Biden? I was very direct: who will they blame when prices don’t go down and the lower and middle classes continue to suffer?
For a second comment you direct your anger and blame at voters who are hurting instead of the democratic establishment that lost to Trump twice running stupid campgain.
This. Add in the fact that she was a POC.The fact that the rise in ugly political rhetoric happened with Obama’s election makes it known that America hasn’t changed. There’s still a lot of racism and misogyny. There is no way a candidate as unqualified as Trump should have won. But, this is what the people chose. The Democrats need to start now in getting younger candidates ready for the future. Hopefully, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, and John Stewart will be able to continue to broadcast because they will have plenty of material for the next four years.
How is Kamala anymore qualified than Trump is to be President of United States when he’s already done it? What has Kamala done in her career to be a good qualifier for the Presidential position?
For me he will be The President not my President. He’s made it abundantly clear since 2015 that he only cares about those who support him. I did not vote for him so I’m not important to him.
If liberals keep blaming their under performance in 2016 and 2024 on the identity of the candidate instead of their awful campgains and shitty policy positions we are never gonna learn a lesson from this.
I had to vote in Wisconsin this year because I was qualified to do so and liberal Travis County Texas did send my absentee ballot. Lesbian Democrat Tammy Baldwin barely won in WI, but she won and Harris did not (by a way wider margin). It's not much a part of these identities, as it was we had a candidate and supporters telling their voting base that the economy was getting better while it wasn't supported on a consumer level to afford the cost of living. We had a candidate that waited until the last moment to say genocide in Gaza is wrong while college age students in Michigan are quick to forget being pepper sprayed for utilizing free speech to protest genocide.
There's a myriad of things socially and economically people were upset with this administration about and were not even addressed. And telling them they need to reevaluate their voting decision (then inserting whatever excuse to vote your way) because it could cost your party the election isn't going to win that vote over.
I don’t think the policy was shitty. I think they just treat 80% of the country as fly over territory. Sadly we need more democrats in power from the Midwest and central regions. California and New York need to step away. There is fantastic democrat leadership in these states but they consistently bank on California and New York. They lost the entire east coast. They are not connecting with people. And they need to make 80% rest of the country feel like they matter and it’s not fly over territory. She did like half as many television rally’s and appearances. Trump has been on tv literally every minute for the past 8 years …
Me and everyone else I know that voted for Trump didn’t do so because Kamal is a woman we did so because she’s not a qualified president and doesn’t have policies the benefit us
Like at all
Her being a woman has absolutely zero to do with it for 99% of Republican voters.
so somehow a convicted felon, rapist, racist, conman, and sexual predator who hangs out with epstein and diddy is more qualified than the previous vp? do you realize how dumb that sounds? your bias is showing
You do realize that you’re just proving everyone else’s point Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party is so utterly terrible and so many Americans consider it not even an option. Yes, they would rather vote for the convicted, felon, rapist, racist, man, and sexual predator.
Your words, not mine
So apparently he is absolutely terrible. He wins the vote as a republican for the first time in 20 years and has a landslide victory after four years of completing competence by Joe
You’re just mad that people don’t align with your views and you’re realizing that the entire country does not think like a Reddit forum
Yes, we are definitely mad about that. Not "just" mad about that, but definitely that also. I believed in the American people, and the American people showed me to be a fool for that belief. I thought we were collectively better than this.
I've been mad that the Democratic party doesn't align with my views either, but I would gladly take their incompetence over the dangerous cancer that We the People just elected.
PS: in that long list of descriptors, don't forget "twice impeached."
Dems are automatically using her gender to seethe today. Not looking at the complete shit show that we’ve had the last 4 years. It is this. I’d love to have a female president but she’s not it. I don’t think democrats even wanted her as their candidate.
Im neutral and didn’t vote this time because both candidates suck. But the fact that we elected Biden but not Hillary or Kamala kind of hints that a gender issue may have played a role there. I’m saying this as a man too.
You can disagree with her policies, but to say she is not qualified is asinine. She was a district attorney, attorney general, senator, and VP. She has tons of qualifications. What is it that makes her not qualified?
The one where Harris is not president lol I would’ve voted for a piece of dryer lint over her. It’s just so happens that Trump actually does align with my believes.
That will not end up being why she got thumped. It’s because too many Americans aren’t “progressive” and bristle at some of the issues Dems hold dear. Swing back more moderate and you guys would probably have killed it.
Most American voters don’t even know what they are voting for. Democrats and republicans are essentially the same party. Which is why you only get two choices basically everywhere in America.
Keep in mind that it’s not always about a candidate. It’s about a platform. I didn’t vote for Trump, I voted for the platform. I think he’s a lousy human, but I think the party has a better platform. Half the wild off-the-cuff stuff he says won’t ever happen and you know it.
Me and my sister were telling my mother about it a few months before Election Day and she straight up said “No, they won’t let him do that.” She voted for him yesterday. 🫠
Today it is hard to think think through at all. I am so full of dread on many levels and need to just let this wash over me, I don't even know where to begin or end but if Project 2025 is the playbook most all of us will be living in a new world order. It seems so surreal right now like we are in alternate universe or a really bad dream. There will no guardrails. Hard to imagine how this will play out. But we have to maintain hope and strength and focus on the midterms next. The Democratic Party needs to reinvent itself and we need to come together for the greater good. I am worried for friends, family, co-workers, old people, young people, minorities, women, children teachers, doctors, our planet, ad infinitum. You have to stay positive - they want us to live in fear - don't give in. Be well all and try to have a restful night and next few days. Between the stupid clock change, Monday's storms and this outcome it is easy to fall into the abyss. Pull yoursslef up as best you can and lean on each other. Take care.
I debated removing this, but have decided to leave it up for now. However, I'm locking the comments for a bit so that I can clean up reports and such. It should be unlocked before too long.
Not gonna be polite to anyone from the group that wants me dead, and is ok with 20 million immigrants being shoved into trains and camps like the holocaust. At some point you just gotta accept that some people's brains just don't work all that well
Like the holocaust? Immigrants going through Mexico to get to the US actually suffer that everyday. Many are kidnapped and extorted in horrible cruel ways the same or worse than Nazi Germany. At some point you got to accept that some people’s brains just dont work that well.
So because they suffer to get here they should get the same treatment while being mass shipped out of the nation? Not to mention the economic consequences because all these people are working
I’m so freaking tired of all of the censorship on Reddit. Thank you for leaving this up. People have the right to voice their opinions. It’s our God given right as Americans to have free speech. 🎤 Go off people! 🇺🇸 This is America. Let your voices be heard but remember we are stronger united than divided.
This is the problem with at least half of America .. they mix up their 1st amendment right to free speech and infringing on someone else's free speech .. the reason the government cannot regulate free speech on Google /reddit/ Facebook because that would violate free speech .. these companies have the right to their own free speech because they own the platform your using . To force a private company to allow another person free resign on a platform owned by a private company would violate the companies First Amendment Right to their own free speech .. see how that works .. private companies don't owe you a place to air your grievances or post your opinions .. they are answerable to their shareholders and in a capitalist society money talks and Bukl$h/t walks .
The government is the only thing the first amendment protects you from .. and it isn't even black and white in that case . Any even with that free speech you can be sued and held to account . That's why Trump and Giuliani both lost their civil cases for defaming people and lying about the whole situation .. they didn't have a right to freely trash and lie about people .. same way Alex Jones lost everything you can't just make things up for your own personal gain at the expense of others .. right wing media is doing people a disservice when they lie and pretend peoples 1st amendment is being violated by for profit companies .. the reason no court will ever force a company to allow someone compete free reign with their speech on a companies platform is that would mean the "government " is taking away the companies free speech .. same way stacks of cash used to buy politicians by companies is "free speech" our system is broken and it isn't broke the way half the country thinks it is .. people would do themselves a great service if they either flipped off CNN MSNBC FOX NEWSMAX and all the rest any right/left wing influencers making 100's of thousands to millions of dollars and everything they were told that sounds wack a doodle go find a couple sources to verify it or disprove it .. don't just accept everything your told . Think deeply about the motivations of some people giving you information .. if their message is always the same and they are never actually critical of one side of the other they are probably a bad source for information .. if you never hear anything uncomfortable about the people you vote for from the source you get your information from your probably not getting the actual information .. everyone of these politicians has motives and aspirations.. very few may be for the people 100% if would say 1 in a 100 is of a pure heart .. if neither side likes your candidate and they call out both sides of the aisle when they are doing someone elses bidding that's a good start .. if they always vote down party lines and vote against things that would help the place they represent for no good reason besides party lines they don't deserve your vote .. look at all the right of the aisle representatives that voted down the infrastructure and chips act and then used them as a talking point while campaigning saying how "their Congress" got those bills passed and brought jobs and broadband and more money to their district .. it's gross the things these folks do in the name of representing the people .. up and down left and right most are wildly dishonest . Even a single thing like more border patrol .. building barriers in much needed spaces and hiring more judges to get these ASYLUM claims done quicker seems like a no brainer . Which I might add would deter folks from making a. 1 or 2 month trip if they knew their asylum case would take less than 90 days and they wouldn't even get a work permit before it was decided they wouldn't make the trip if they were not eligible to get asylum ... There is so much America could do better and instead of pretending to care these politicians on both sides just need to compromise get the deals done and start fixing problems that have screwed this country up for going on 100 years . Once that happens America won't be taking a chance on a man like Trump he is a birpiduct of our broken system he is vastly incapable of doing the job as we seen in 2019 when he was against the wall . But folks didn't like either option so they went with the devil they know .. the only issue I see is the guard rails are gone so if he does go full blown crazy we just have to hope he has someone there to say hey you can't nuke a whole country because they tweeted out that your fat and smell funny..
This group removed my post about a Confederate Flag flying across the street from the Alvaredo Courthouse because it "violated Rule #1" not being in the DFW Metroplex. When I replied saying that Johnson County is in fact listed as being acceptable in Rule #1, I received no response and they didn't put it back up.
How is this thread relevant to Dallas? This is just people who are from dallas (presumably) arguing politics. Your first instinct was right. I don’t subscribe to this sub for content like this. Please keep the topics actually related to Dallas.
I agree but at some point there's so much engagement, it makes sense to leave it up. If they would've caught it early, I suspect it would've been removed due to rule one. Once there are hundreds of comments it's hard. The mod team would get killed with complaints. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No, it's just easier to patrol through a single thread than have to dig through a bunch of comment sections. Most of the time we rely on user reports, reddit's a big place after all, but on posts like this with a lot of potential for rule violations, typically rule 2 and 3, we like to actually read through the comments to catch any violations early. One thing a lot of people don't realize that never have been a mod or never gotten gold is that for mods all new comments since the last time through are highlighted, so it make it easy to skip past all the stuff we've already checked and focus on the new comments efficiently. So far there's only been I think three bans here, rule 2 and 3, which given the topic is surprisingly mild.
Well now we tax everyone that bored democrat double to pay for all the illegals they wanted over here. For their housing, healthcare, food etc. You guys were fine with them being here and you guys should be paying for them.
I get to read through all the conspiracy theories about what Trump will do to this country. Just like in 2016. It was the end of the world then, too. I didn't like him. But gosh damn I was financially banging towards the end of his first term. Better than I had ever in my adult life. End of this term, I'm struggling, and the wife and I have been discussing 2nd jobs. We make $30k more per year right now vs 2020 and we have dwindled our savings trying to survive. Again, I don't like Trump. But what matters to me now in 2024 is different than 2016.
Considering he pushed for the oil production CUTS in 2020 which then caused massive spikes in price when covid restrictions were lifted, I am not sure he is your guy
Many domestic operations shut down for years, even after demand returned... How does that help oil workers? OPEC kept the production low for years, causing much of the price spike.
You have very short term, simple ideas, and seem to have a very short memory.
I find it comical that neckbeards like yourself, sit on Reddit and tell people that actually work in certain industries, how well those particular industries are doing.
Gas will never get to 2 dollars a gallon, the president doesn’t control interest rates, we produce more oil then we use, and catering to Russia as they re occupy Eastern Europe one country at a time isn’t “peace agreements”.
When did I say you gave POTUS power to control interest rates? The system is broken. It has been a ticking time bomb since we came off the gold standard.
The PRIVATE Federal Reserve needs to be reigned in, does not equal giving POTUS more authority.
Brother, the Fed is out of control. They need to be reigned in. I am not claiming to have all the answers. We would go back to a system similar to pre 1913.
I would imagine private clearinghouses would determine short-term liquidity, altering short-term interest rates. While longer-term rates are already largely determined by supply and demand.
The feds made the proud boys break into the Capitol. I bet they also forced Trump to arrange 7 slates of false electors and pressure pence to use them. Of course.
Lumping us all in with those crazies is why Dems lost.
A lot of us are just normal people who prefer Republican policies over the identity-politics-obsessed left. Reddit,!/which demonizes every R voter, isn’t real life.
I’m also pro-choice (prior to 12-16 weeks), but would never make that the sole issue determining my vote. As someone who didn’t vote Trump in 2020, let’s hope the Democrats have something more than a giant nothingburger in 2028.
My guy, if you voted for them after that, you've lumped yourself in, not me. That kind of behavior should be disqualifying for any candidate regardless of party.
I think the thing that bothers me the most is how this election was won; through fear, threats and hate. So I'm going to try to do the opposite and see how that goes. I'm going to try to be kind and gentle, help others as best I can and look for the good. I don't know that this will have major impacts on big things. But I hope it will make my little part of the world a better place.
You can just stop with that. Trump has been calling democrats communists, marxists, fascists, socialists, etc. He’s also the person with an unflattering nickname for everyone I.e. Sleepy Joe, Crooked Hillary, Crazy Nancy, Communist Kamala, Little Marco, Meatball Ron, etc.
Yes he did. I’m a liberal and I never thought Harris would win despite polling.
Liberals and conservatives had their mind made up long ago. It’s the moderates you have to consider.
Look at the issues important to moderates. Border policy, inflation, etc. None of those issues were good for Democrats regardless of what caused them. Democrats also were running a candidate who (unfairly) was tagged as the border czar. I also am starting to think there is a real backlash at non-abortion social issues with, sadly, LGBT+, because of a poor framing of the issues and how media covers it. Some of my more moderate friends feel it’s getting to be too much.
Democrats have also been leaning heavily on the Hispanic, non-Cuban vote despite cracks showing in that voting block for years.
Democrats, like Republicans, have been running to the extremes for years. Moderates are tired of it. I thought that might have been the one saving grace this election, but in the end, people vote with their pocket books as they say.
Yup. I’m fed up with being told I’m a crazy bigot because I don’t want biological males in women’s sports. It doesn’t make any sense but people can’t even question this without being attacked.
I lean a bit more right than center but I'm fairly open minded especially on social issues. The way I frame it to people who ask just compare the 4 years of Trump to Biden (2016 to 2020 and 2020 to 2024). I can almost guarantee that the average working class people like us are worse off. I will concede that the turn of global events are unprecedented but nonetheless we're inadequately addressed arguably by both, no one can say for certain if the Trump administration's policies would have sustained the same economic growth and stability through these last four years.
Frankly, I'm not crazy about either of the incumbents but my gut tells me I'd be $15k richer, the war in Europe would be short-lived if started at all, and we'd have a controlled flow of immigrants coming into this country legally while maintaining border security.
We've spent years building up the rest of the world while our country is burning up in flames and unironically more people hate us now more than ever and since it appears we will be returning to the middle east, we'll not only have more enemies, but they'll be better equipped as well.
This. I am a moderate myself. I’m sure I’ll get berated by all types of people for saying what I’m about to say. Unfortunately this two party system results in conformation to one set of ideologies. Can’t I believe in the woman’s right to choose, but also desire a strong economy and foreign policy? Everyone assigns different priorities to a candidate’s policy stances. To one person, certain issues may be more important naturally.
The Harris campaign repeatedly alienated moderate voters by stating a vote for trump is a vote against their own loved ones and a morally hateful decision.
Over 71 million people voted for Trump. Several million of those people were moderate. It is honestly just as hateful to label these people mysogonist simply because they don’t vote for the same person you do. Moral arrogance and superiority has driven voters like myself away from the Democratic Party and Harris campaign.
I feel like Dems just keep moving more center, not to the extremes. I can see why moderates would be tired of the sanctimonious attitudes though. I hate my party for allowing the DNC to keep putting up these establishment figureheads for us to vote for.
I agree with this sentiments. The main issues are on either two extreme, so middle ground people were conflicted. You know it’s bad when you have to pick between “the lesser of two evils.” (This is not to say in this instance trump is that, but it’s just a general idea). That’s now how you want to chose someone to run your country.
Well I love being able to say “I told you so.” So guess I will at least have that to look forward to for the rest of my life every time something horrible happens that can be traced back to the results of this election. 🤷🏿♂️
But unfortunately anytime something bad happens they’re going to say it was residual from the Biden/Harris administration. They’ll never take responsibility.
we will take full responsibility, but only after yall take full responsibility of the complete disaster that has been the last 4 years. this economy is in the gutter because of Biden and harris
They're going to suffer right along with everyone else this time around. He promised to get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Let's all enjoy them getting EOBs where insurance is denying every service again for frivolous reasons. But they'll have the God they truly worship...guns. Maybe guns were the solution all along. It'll be interesting to see suicide rates, especially since they're already highest among working class men who own guns. The women in their families will die too because they can't get medically necessary abortions. They will feel the pressure of a failing economy when he implements mass deportation which will destroy manufacturing and agriculture. These folks don't have the intellectual capacity to think critically about these issues with the future in mind, so they'll have to learn by experiencing it first hand.
Think of how great it will be when a huge mass of people decides to homeschool their kids! "Time for math class kids! Ok so today's lesson is about how God created the world in 7 days"
Hahahaha...you joke but this is exactly the plan. Enrich the wealthy, the corporations, while creating an even less educated working class that will follow no questions asked and make them believe that minorities are keeping them poor while they enjoy watching them do their bidding. Trump did exactly this on Jan. 6th. Sat back and watched people beat the police officers, some to death all for a lie.
Show me one source where he says he’s going to get rid of SS. That’s been a leftist talking point since before I was born. Show me one source where he says he’s going to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.
Trump has stated he wants to expand access to IVF and possibly have it paid for.
Deporting criminal aliens =/= deporting immigrants. There’s a difference.
Most immigrants here without documentation entered legally on a visa, but the visa expired and they became undocumented. This is actually not a crime. Crossing the border illegally is a crime, but after what we did to the Jews during the Holocaust the civilized nations agreed to make it legal to seek refuge in other countries. We even signed legally binding treaties agreeing to this. If someone in this country without documentation, regardless of how they got here, asks for asylum we as a nation are legally obligated to provide them due process to make their asylum case.
BTW, "Ted" Cruz's father Rafael got into American this way. His student visa was revoked and he was here without documentation, so instead of going back to Cuba as the law required and to avoid being deported as he should have been he instead applied for asylum. He eventually turned that into a green card, though he waited forty more years before bothering to become a naturalized citizen.
So the children? The children are alien criminals? The children who ended up born and raised in America, who can't even speak Spanish only English, and have never been to/been back to Mexico. After Trump struck down DACA there were thousands of Hispanic children BORN and raised in America who had no experience with Mexico throughout their whole life, who were stripped of their college educations here, and sent to a country they have no knowledge of and can't speak the language. I'd but money you don't give a shit just bc that didn't effect you, or you'll say it just didn't happen.
I would not put it past Trump to revoke the citizenship of those children, leaving them stateless and forever unable to return to the country of their birth.
If you've paid any attention, they follow every command he makes. He's saying one thing to the camera, but what he actually wanted is what they enacted with that vote. It's very plain.
Literally didn’t happen. Y’all can keep making stuff up all you want. That will never make it true, and last nights results show that y’all are in the minority and that we’re sick of the lefts lies.
My best old buddy tried to tell me the same thing this morning. It really is amazing to me how many people in this country, like you, have no fucking clue what he is planning to do, and are CHEERING for it. Easily verifiable that he plans to gut the entire safety net and dept of education, as well as many other things! Good Luck!
By dissolving the dept of edu, the funds would go direct to the states. This prevents the federal bloat thats been siphoning the allocation of funds due to federal misspending.
The funds will go to the military. Are you new here? And since when do the states look out for education? I've lived in 5 southern red states, and THEY ALL cut from education first. If you don't live in a Democratic state (states with the highest public education rankings), you're in an unfortunate situation.
The Supreme Court justices he appointed Saudi under oath that Roe was settled law. Then they overturned it. Trump said he supported IVF, then Republicans in Congress voted against protections for IVF. This isn't rocket science, folks. He's paying lip service, but the actions of the people he controls prove otherwise.
Hmmmmm, but Vance is not much better. His eyeliner is nice, and we love a man confident enough to accentuate his baby blues bit he's an awful human being. He has a very long history of crazy podcast interviews as evidence.
Well, one thing we know the next 4 years will be entertaining. Vance relating to other humans the best way he knows how (like a robot). And Trump tweeting insanity 40 times a day between naps.
But then also said he wanted to add a 20% tariff/import tax on everything that would spike inflation and hurt our ability to exports goods at the same time.
It may, though hurting our exports will hurt jobs too.
But that’s exactly what I meant by spike inflation… either it’s 20% more expensive to buy your normal goods because of the import taxes, or you pay more for it to be made here (which will take years to actually do), and you don’t actually have a choice either way - you’re going to pay for the import taxes on essential goods just like any other sales tax.
We as a country don’t have the labor resources or production lines set up to manufacture everything in the US. Even if manufacturing were to move back to the US, you’re going to pay the import taxes anyways because we don’t have many of the necessary raw material resources in the US.
Targeted tariffs are a good thing, but blanket tariffs will destroy our economy. Hopefully they’ll change their minds once in office though and you won’t have to find out.
That’s what I said too. If nothing bad happens, great! If bad things happen as a result of his policies, I will indulge myself a bit. But that would require bad things happening to all of us and not just the marginalized which is what the people who voted for him wanted anyway.
Lmao I know that feeling very well when I’ve been “telling” Reddit how terrible of a candidate Kamala was but I was just called a fascist. “I told you so” feels good.
At what point is it ok to call trump a nazi? The man is using hitlers ideology word for word. Hitler blamed the jews for their economic issues, trump blames illegal immigrants, hitler claimed germany is a ruin with its people living day to day ,trump claims the U.S is a ruin as well. I can go on and on, but at the end of the day trump is using the same fascist language as hitler. He could have ran a diffrent campaign,but he choose to be a fascist because of fools like you who cant realize the context of our situation and would rather blame a group than accept the situation for what it is, greedy men wanting to get rid of you to feed their needs.
Once we have concentration camps and kill 6mil immigrants then we can talk about the Hitler comparisons big guy. Spoiler alert it wont happen and overall not much will change. Carry on.
Hitler wasnt just concentration camps, he limit the rights of people, literally tried to over throw his goverment when he didnt get his way, abused women, murdered political rivals,etc...My point is not that trump is hitler, my point is that he uses nazi ideolgy to justify his nomanition and half of the United states went " ok sure, where do i sign?" You dont see the problem there?
In other terms,
If i choose to follow jesus and the bible, does that make me god? Of course not, but it does make me a christian.
I think the content of the rally is the thing but whatever. My point remains, if you are voting for the same people as the actual Nazis, the David Dukes and so on, I think you should ask yourself why that is.
Lower inflation, lower cost of living, higher s&p annual returns, lower unemployment, lower illegal immigration and spending, lower involvement and funding in foreign wars if we’re going off track record.
It’s like when you get second chance to do the things you never got around to the first time, and also the stuff you only thought of afterwards. But with so much more resources (Red everything) and new tools (immunity from prosecution). Obviously I’m thinking of myself and other marginalized groups, but I can’t help to think about how it’s gonna affect the poor and even middle class people that voted for him, thinking it will uplift them financially. We already know to expect the worst but that feeling when your eyes open and you realize your miscalculation, and your responsibility in it. I’m sorry for everyone and no, despite people saying “community” etc., the fact is I live in a place he won easily. Basically everyone I know and am around on a daily basis voted for him. I’m saving myself and my child.
It has strict abuse laws towards sex workers. it's 100% lega there, legalized Marijuana, and affordable beach property. I'm thinking of liquidating assets buying a hotel.
It pains me to see how much the party of love and acceptance hates their fellow men and women. Just over a decision between 2 candidates that disagree. I don't hate you, I only pity you. You believe all the lies the media tells you and demonize its victims all for the actions of a few. Sad
Moved back to Chicago from DFW just in time… thank God. I feel sorry for ya’ll down in TX, it’s a lot better here… for now at least
At least the weather is significantly less hot, we get more rain, the grass is so much greener (literally), we get REAL snow, we have Lake Michigan, AND most people here are pretty educated and logical.
We actually have tax money that is put into caring for our land. Abortion is legal here. Weed is legal. Canada is a short drive away too in case things reallyyy go to shit everywhere.
Seriously praying for ya’ll down there who didn’t want any part of this.
people don’t realize they could’ve been born in a slum in India or in northern Mongolia and yet they sit here and cry because their lives are not utterly perfect and the world does not bend to their will
Every single country in the EU lol I was born there. multiple countries in the Caribbean, South America and southeast Asia the only places I haven’t hit or Africa, Antarctica, Canada, and Russia
If you liked Tim Walz you night want to look into North Texas DSA. Now, Tim Walz is no socalist. DSA stands for Democratic Socalists Of America. I just give leeway that a Liberal who really liked Tim Walz or, even better, Bernie. Might find purpose working with the grassroots REAL base of the left in America.
It is still early to call exactly "what happened" in totality, but one thing is clear. Economic anxiety won the day, and rightly so. Is Trump a better answer? No. But it is PAINFULLY clear. The current Democrat strategy for America is a failure. Populism is not a dirty word on it's own. If you are a "regular liberal" and actually care about what should/could be done. It is time to start looking into being part of an organization dedicated to addressing the economic anxiety that has BEEN stated by the American People for years.
You still live in the freest country in the world during the best time to be alive in human history. Your connections with your family and community will contribute more to your personal happiness than politics.
Nothing has changed yet. The only thing people found out was that the democrats are on the wrong side of history. Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college, and the people have spoken loud and clear. We are tired of the woke bs and them trying to burn this country to the ground.
Also, side note. It's funny how Trump got 3 million fewer votes this time, but Harris got 15 million fewer votes than 2020. I wonder how that happened.......
Now we can stop the dogmatic, cultish politics for another 3 1/2 years or so, get back to some level of normalcy and wait to see what the new sitting president does. Life goes on.
Is it fear mongering when we are genuinely fearful for our livelihoods? Me and my partner are a queer couple, my entire inner circle is all made up of queer people. We don’t know what could happen. I am disabled, too. What rights we did have might just be ripped from under us.
Nobody is coming for the queers or any LGBTQ. We may believe the lifestyle to be sinful, but we only want good for you. How you choose to live your life is your decision. God gave you free will.
The red line is that we don’t want this behavior pushed on the kids. This is being done with books like ‘lawn boy’ in school libraries.
Russia will take over Ukraine when USA pulls its support and move on to other Balkan states and possibly Poland resulting in a massive humanitarian crisis in Europe.
We did this dance in the 1930s when Hitler was doing what Putin's trying to do now. The difference between then and now is Putin has nukes, so he'll be successful.
I think many people of all different walks of life and political sides are going to be thinking long and hard about their decisions over the past decade.
Of course. I knew he would based on how fake Kamala was. Elections are about human behavior, not politics. You might hate him but Trump is Trump. Plus 2016-2020 was great and everyone remembers that.
I don't know if our country will ever be the same after this. I guess I mean our government and what we know as our system. I just don't know.
We get what we deserve, I guess. I feel empty, but I soldier on and will try not to fall into a pit.
I keep hearing stuff about him just removing the term limit, is stuff like that even possible? He's said stuff like if you vote for me, you'll never have to vote again, which I think is very insane cause that's dictator behavior. It's more insane that people look past his thousands of red flags and can just vote for him with a clear conscience when he offers nothing that isn't motivated by greed or hatred. This country is such a shithole
Is it possible? Of course it is. There weren't any limits 80 years ago. Biden was alive when FDR was in his 4th term as president, so it's not like it's ancient history.
Take heart that they would have to repeat the 22nd amendment, and that would be no small task. So, unless he overthrows the entire government, he will likely leave office in 2029.
He can ignore the Constitution. His followers would absolutely back that play 100%, and that includes his followers in the Legislative and Judicial branches, all the way up to SCOTUS. In the end the Constitution is just an old piece of paper, the only value it has is the value that people give it in their minds. Enough people decide it's not important and it becomes just another piece of old paper that burns on the trash heap of history.
I keep hearing stuff about him just removing the term limit, is stuff like that even possible?
In a functioning democracy where the different branches of government can act as checks against power it wouldn't be possible. For instance, Trump could just declare himself president for life, which would be completely illegal and unconstitutional. The legislative branch would seek to impeach him, that would be the House in the US Congress, then the Senate would hold the impeachment trial, and upon conviction the Senate would have him removed. SCOTUS would preside over the Senate trial and would issue the legal orders removing him from office. This is sort of how a criminal trial works, impeachment is the indictment and the Senate trial is like the criminal trial, then the trial judge orders the convicted person to be taken into custody.
What happens if the person on trial bought the prosecution and enough jurors to ensure he couldn't get convicted? And for good measure the judge is his best friend so no matter what the jury says the judge is going to declare the defendant innocent? That's basically where we are now. Republicans in the House and Senate are personally loyal to Trump over their sworn oath to the Constitution, and SCOTUS has basically been giving Trump all the power he can reach for, as well as running interference against the previous impeachments.
So in the end, if Trump violates the Constitution and there's nobody able to do anything about it legally, then he succeeds. Will he? Absolutely. He's never shown any particular loyalty to America or the Constitution, his only loyalty has ever been to himself. In his view people only fall into three categories, those that are useful to him, those that he's indifferent two, and those he sees as enemies. Near as I can tell most of his family falls into these categories as well.
It won't, even if he is unsuccessful at removing term limits. The horrendous SCOTUS decisions happened under Biden, because Trump got to appoint 3 justices (with no term limit) in his last 4-year term. We shall see how many he appoints during this term. He gets to change the rules that everyone else has to play by, or else they might look authoritarian.
Violence. That’s what’s next. The thing that will personally affect all of us the most is how violent his rhetoric is. It will be violent on a domestic and international scale. You’ll eventually know someone personally, or you personally, will be affected by it. This isn’t the type of candidate, nor base of followers, that believes in anything but violence against those who do not agree with them. Get red or get dead.
He'll be president for four years, and then a new president will be voted in. Don't listen to people who are fear mongering. People freaking out tend to forget he's been president before and nothing like what they said would happen.
Remind anyone of Germany in the 30s right before they started rounding up the undesirables and putting them in camps. I'm gonna be one of loudest and most undesirable before I let that slumlord treat me like he has everyone else he has screwed over in history. Waiting to hear that drumline of someone who knows how to at least hold the steal this time music to my ears....
I I know this probably offends some and others think I'm just so cruel but how many people were quiet at the beginning of the Holocaust. Not me I'm a true patriot I refuse to go quietly as he tries to ink my arm with the same Pen he writes Putin with .I'm a white Catholic but to me another white racist,NnY slumlord who has ruined every business he ever has had until bankrupt and now with 34 felonies and still president. I'm saddened to think this is best president we could of picked . Reagan and W now are not the worst we could of done after all. Count the votes twice and then double check again he is a lying fraudster cheater guilty in America's court not just everyone's eyes. I had really hoped America had gotten past their raccist,bigoted ways I don't know about you but racist will not replace me in the year 2024 let's make racist scared once again then America might be able to start getting better but I will not say good again cuz as I see it throughout history America has been a lot of things good maybe a murdering the original people who were here and stealing and lying wait then again that's why we elected Trump who else knows how to do any of those things better than him he knows a lot of things but no one knows more about lying stealing and cheating then Donald Trump.. I know this will probably be blocked and I'll probably be banned but like I said at the very beginning I refuse to go to the camps quietly and he will never put ink on my arm I have my number it's 1312
Is everyone forgetting how this ties into the New world order and plan for humanity’s future as a whole? Digital currency? Mass genocide so we can actually sustain life on this planet without destroying it. One world government. This is a small step on a long road ahead. We are pawns.
Is everyone forgetting how this ties into the New world order and plan for humanity’s future as a whole? Digital currency? Mass genocide so we can actually sustain life on this planet without destroying it. One world government. This is a small step on a long road ahead. We are pawns.
Supreme Court justices Thomas (76) and Alito (74) are likely going to be making appointments with their retirement planners sometime within the next 4 years.
The bigger story in Dallas is voters passing props S & U after nearly every elected Democrat in the city attended that press conference telling us to reject S, T, and U.
Or maybe they just agreed, dude. Be an ass all you want, it’s not gonna change the results: Kamala Harris might’ve been the Dems least popular candidate ever
Well... Many of my friends and I will most likely lose our basic rights, considering they've been collecting information on people who have changed their gender marker. They'll try their best to ruin people's lives and prevent certain people's private care more so than they already have...
A lot of queers in the community are in panic, we are planning, we are holding our children closer than ever. It'll be slow at first and most people probably won't notice until it's already happened.
If you’re non-white, a woman, poor, non-“christian”, LGBTQ+ or someone who values a functioning government, the environment, the value of the US dollar, workers rights, civility amongst your fellow citizens or free and fair elections… you’ve got a bit of a problem.
Go back to and look again, one shot by capitol police , one to a drug overdose, three to natural causes and a officer from a assault, planned to keep the newly elected president from being able to run again
Brilliant
Nothing changes about our job in all this. Fight the things that need to be fought, help the people who need to be helped, foster strong communities and help each other out. Everything you should have been doing yesterday, you should still do today.
Only thing I don’t understand is Americans removing a 70-80 year old president bc of his mental capacity replacing the position with another 70-80 year old
Lmao 🤣 how dumb can we as American citizens be? Do you think another 70-80 year old is just as mentally fit ? Especially one who has it in their family (his dad had it), and he isn’t in the best physical shape already.
SMH 🤦🏽♀️ no common sense whatsoever.
In addition to the first term wasn’t favorable. He re-allocated money from FEMA Disaster Relief fund to customs border patrol for the wall that was never built. That money is for American citizens during disasters and it’s taxpayers money but was reallocated from his order for a wall and immigration camps.
Then he enacted a tax plan that we felt that affects after he was out of office that’s his tax plan not Biden.
He presidentially declared COVID a national disaster enacting all federal services which caused hella fraud, waste, and abuse. So we are in a deficit from COVID alone on the federal level. Like smh 🤦🏽♀️ nobody understands civics, government, and how it all works I’m convinced folks just like hate, anger, gossip, and racism.
I truly watched and listened for the plan for immigration, the plan to better things be had none. He kept saying he would hire extraordinary ppl. Lmao what
God Bless America tho and hopefully his mind stays fit during this term.
Removing Biden wasn't just age, his admin was historically unpopular. That initial boost for Harris was heavily based on the idea she would break with him. But she only broke with him to go even further right so the excitement dried up. 18 million fewer people voted this time, that's a problem on the campgain.
We all watched that kamala debate where he just spewed nonsense. I just don't know what goes through the head of a trump voter after watching the debates and experiencing what we've been experiencing for the past 8 years. He didn't meet his promises last term, then we voted him out, so why the huge turnaround again? And why does it seem like way more gays and latinos were voting for him this time? Makes no goddamn sense
I’m not upset about it - for me I don’t understand the logic. Nothing to cry about I will continue to live my life as such.
I don’t understand the logic of disliking a sitting president for mental capacity due to his age 70-80s then replacing him with mentally unstable same thing age 70-80. It makes no sense lmao 🤣 majority of Americans can’t read passed middle school so there is that
Well, people don’t all get dementia and they don’t all get dementia at the same time so even though they’re very similar in age, one of them has dementia the other one does not it’s pretty simple
Trump dad had it it’s more than likely he is having signs of it. You could tell from the debates and certain interviews. If you couldn’t tell you never been around someone with early signs of dementia or Alzheimer’s. Him even mentioning World War II like huh man ?
Like I said in my other post God Bless America and his mental capacity during this term
Women (Dobbs decision, stated intention to revive the Comstock act), LGBT individuals (primarily trans people per the rhetoric and project 2025, but Thomas has implicated Obergefell v Hodges decision too), immigrants (undoing DACA and removing asylum status, plus mass deportation is going to decimate families and entire communities and will require Gestapo tactics), people who don't support Trump (he has literally denied disaster funding to areas that didn't vote for him).
At the end of the day people may not like the team they’re on and that can be remedied if any individual chooses to do so, but the fact is as long as I’m I was born and raised in the US country, I put the people in it above everything else whether I like you or your not- or your opinion or not, whether I agree with you or not.
I can hate the QB and still block for him, as the team doesn’t belong to him it belongs to all of us. And we will either come together for America or die as a group of individuals
This is not about abortions, it’s a section of a bigger picture!! Do u need it drawn for u??? It’s about a man who’s PRESIDENT, again. He did a GREAT job then, we were ALL happy then!! And 2020 happened…a term of pure hell
If only. Republicans seem adamant to kill the ACA, meaning your kids won't be able to stay on your health insurance after 18 and millions of others will lose insurance too. They said they're coming for Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare funding, contraceptives, and will begin mass deportations. If any single one of these were to happen the results would be catastrophic to the nation and our economy.
Yeah and from here on out everything is funny to me. “Trump put tariffs on basic needs and now I can’t afford anything” lol “trump is trying to get rid of the department of education” lol “trump is repealing previously secure rights” lol “trump is banning vaccines” lol
I'm probably going to go out and buy a gun some time next month...
This way when the authorities come and I'm at the pearly gates, I could at least say I tried my best to defend my family. All because my last name doesn't sound "american".
It's sad how getting deported is a serious fear of mine.
I don't see how you jumped to that conclusion...maybe I did poor job at explaining myself, so let's try this way. As a minority and a united state citizen, my biggest fear is for authority or vigilantes coming and trying to deport me all because I don't look American. My fears is based on the fact that it has happened before in history and the president to be is not doing anything to alleviate those fears. I'm sure that the Japanese and Germans sent to internment camps also felt that they were safe bc they were American citizens...or the Muslims that were imprisoned during the patriot act. I did not mention anything about reparations...
Your inference that Trump is like Hitler isn’t based in any fact. The only thing that has been said is that ILLEGAL immigrants will be deported. And they should be. They’re here ILLEGALLY. As a US citizen, you have no worries. Americans are not the racists the left makes out to be. I love the melting pot we have, and I literally know not one person who would discriminate against any color or ethnicity.
I didn't mention Hitler, that's you. What I did mention was internment camps and the patriot act. Both of which were done under sitting us president. Both of which was done I. The interest of national security and ended with American imprisonment. Trumps whole campaign rhetoric is just replacing the words "spies" and "terrorists " with "illegal immigrants"
Yup. The people crying/complaining and even the folks celebrating are all so silly. We still all have to go to work. We still have bills and we’re all still divided lol
Now the economy will improve, we will begin mass deportations of the invaders and we will decimate government regulations, we will reduce spending, we will eliminate DEI and ESG from the government, we will have more respect on the world stage. Everything will be better. #MAGA.
Carry on and work on things in your control. You can’t control the outcome of an election. Besides your one vote, you can control the amount of attention you give to pseudo celebrity presidents and the nonsense chaos they want you to pay attention to.
your city council members & city manager matter a lot. rely on em, make the city better thru 311 requests. as well, it's up to the city to not enforce laws that are based on bigotry & ignorance & alike.
If you want to make a difference locally, the urbanism community in Dallas is thriving and needs lots of help with making Dallas a walkable, economically healthy, sustainable, bikeable place with good public transit. State and national policy affect this, but most of it is local.
I have made a ton of friends in this community and am feeling motivated to double down on focusing on making Dallas better since that’s the obvious path for civic engagement right now.
I am hoping that both political parties let it sink in that almost 60% of the general public didn’t vote. Whoever learns from this would be better served moving forward. I voted but I know many people who refused to. Roughly 70 million for, roughly 70 million against, and roughly 200 million didn’t take part in the conversation.
Well, it is time to start stocking up my pantry again, store 10 days worth of water, and buy a ton of TP. Probably should cut back on my IRA contributions as well, so I have a little more cash flow for emergencies.
Are we allowed to be honest about Harris yet, or are the astrourfed local subs still banning users for posting any objective but unsupportive comments?
The same thing that you did yesterday. What happens in your house is far more important than what happens in the White House. Next most important is the State and local level. You can always find a State that suits you (contrary to popular opinion all “red” or “blue” states are not alike).
The highlights of the crisis speech I gave my gutted (older) kids this morning on the school run (they were too young for 2016 to affect them).
Your feelings are valid. They're not stupid. Feeling threatened or like the world is going to end is normal. But just remember they're feelings and not always necessarily rational or need to be acted on. Don't make sudden or major decisions while in grief.
Life will go on. For an older liberal, today feels very similar to the morning after 2016. Maybe like older elections too. But it's part of living in a democracy. Your candidate doesn't always win. But we are Americans. This is the government we live in and will continue to work towards reforming where needed.
Try to resist blaming others for today. Trust in the system as votes are checked and recounted as need be. I have no illusions of hidden votes showing up or mail-ins being enough to overturn major results. Voter fraud is statistically low. Voter suppression is real and should still be fought in the future but is not the sole reason Republicans won this time. Analyzing what campaign strategies won or failed can happen later. They can't affect anything now.
Try to resist catastrophizing. It's easy to jump to spiraling into thinking of all the worst-case Project 2025 scenarios immediately. Distract yourself from the worst of it at least until some grieving is done and you can be more rational about potential and impending doom. Avoid social media and doomscrolling for a few days if needed. If all the governmental checks and balances fail and we lose more rights, there is always revolution. But we can think better about that later. They aren't even in office until January. As far as I know the filibuster has not been lost. The Supreme Court is suspect but they're not completely corrupt or stupid. All hope is not completely gone that we can at least maintain the level of rights we have.
Let yourself grieve. People often forget that grieving applies to smaller events in life, not just death. Grieve the future you were hoping for. Remember grieving isn't linear and the steps of grieving don't always happen in the same order or for the same amount of time. You may accept it one minute and rage against the world the next. Give it time.
Keep focus on the next goal in your life. For most adults, today has to be another day. Jobs. Family. Household. Make extra time and allowance for self-care and mental self-care. But also keep your weekly, monthly, yearly or longer goals in mind and keep working towards those. I think I'm clearing my calendar this weekend to do something, anything that my brain needs to move forward, but past that I am throwing myself into my long-term goals to help me regain purpose and meaning within my life since the rest is out of my control (I voted, I can't control anything past that).
If you feel like you need an escape plan, to a more liberal city or a more blue state or even to a different country, it doesn't have to happen immediately. Again remember, avoid major decisions when grieving. If you don't have the ability or money yet, you can still feel like you're working towards it by streamlining/decluttering your life and making progress towards your long-range goals. Getting ready to move so that when the opportunity does strike, you can jump on it.
You are not alone. We are a family and we will support each other. We are not the only ones devastated today. We will all eventually heal, regroup, and move forward.
Try not to judge others that are struggling. We're all coming from different places in our lives. We're all at different points in grieving. Some people will have problems moving on and will be in deep grieving or panic for a while. Love and support them as best as you can.
Also try not to judge others that are loudly celebrating their victory today in cruel ways too harshly. You aren't obligated to keep people that do not share your values in your life. Or give them any access to you. Moderate your life and social media friends lists accordingly. I am not purging my lists of Republicans. But I have removed some people that no longer add value to my life in the last week or two. And I may temporarily block or limit people I can't remove. I don't want my social media to become an echo chamber of only people that agree with me, but I also don't want constant hatred and negativity against other groups of humans on my feed. I don't owe them my energy or my time.
God Bless America. Keep working hard, and being thankful we live in the greatest country on earth. Americans were.not happy with the direction of the country and chose a different direction.
She's VP. She literally can't do anything of substance, other than certify the election and be the tie vote in the senate, if needed. She will do the former but she won't have any opportunity to do the latter. She won't do anything.
Everyday in my life is HAPPY
I have a truly Beautiful Awesome Wife, 4 Great Cats and crazy old dog. And always wake up happy. Now I will be even happier knowing my retirement money will grow and not be taken away like Obama and Biden were doing to me. And knowing that my Heavenly Father loves us is the Greatest thing of All.
I raised 2 kids for 5 years and was building a life with what I thought was a great woman. She drained the $80k I had, tanked my credit score from 850 to 550, left me with $35k+ in debt, cheated, and then ended things. Filed bankruptcy and been floating around the Southern states doing side work where I can. There's no upside. And running out of reasons to keep going with this world.
My ex after 34 yrs packed up everything while I was out of town 800 miles away left my cats to starve to death. Like you cleaned my ass out. House was 8 months behind, my truck was supposed to be paid off but 8000 owed on it. Seems I was paying her daughters house and car and exes. Their bills etc. but traveled so much I didn't know it. Always asked how I was broke making 150k a yr and got shit answers. So fought 4 yrs for that divorce. Was at my lowest till I met my current wife. Now this month is 10 yrs. So never give up. She's out there and so will that job now that things will pick up again.
Abortion is now a state level issue. What’s done is done. Work tirelessly at your state level to get these abortion bans overturned. Bitching about Trump won’t solve anything. Lick your wounds and move on to overturning the decision at the state level.
The next 12+ years are going to be glorious!! We can only pray the Democratic Party is forever relegated into the annuls of American history as a horrible and embarrassing mistake.
This is a wonderful morning ☀️ I feel happy, hopeful and safe. It’s also extremely satisfying and amusing to read the comments from sore losers who don’t appreciate or respect the democratic process. The people have spoken. Tyranny, fascism, hated, racism, bigotry and oppression lost.
And just like his last Presidency, we’ll again see that all the negative publicity and scare mongering from the MSM fake news were all lies. It’ll be ok. The people have spoken.
Just a bunch of people feeling emboldened to say whatever hateful things they want. Besides that, not much will change. Oh and he gets to escape jail time for now.
The pre-election polls once again had a tough time knowing what to do with trump. I thought he would win but very surprised on the the margin and popular vote
Ummm, you get up, go to work, and go about your day.
I do not get how people think whomever is elected Prez is going to have any kind of impact on their day to day life. I have been on this rock for over 50 years. And nothing ever changes no matter which party is in power. Sure, the messaging changes. But true change never really happens.
So please, everyone take a deep breathe. Stop being gaslit by the media. Nothing horrible is about to happen just because DJT has won the election.
Back to work. You have the biggest impact on your life. Not who holds political office. If you are a democrat 2016 came and went. You are still here. If you are Republican 2020 came and went. You are still here.
The media of this country has demonized one side or the other to the point where it assumed that those that disagree with you are dangerous. The reality is the media showcases the extreme. Most people are people, not monsters.
I think Covid gave everyone memory loss. It was a daily bipartisan office ritual from 2017-2020 to talk about whatever crazy shit Trump said the day before. People on both sides were losing it and quarantine repolarized everyone.
Did anyone really expect Harris to win? Maybe put a viable candidate up and Democrats might stand a chance. I know, lets ask Oprah. She's real good at picking a dark horse.
The only silver lining I see from this election outcome, is that when trumps universal tariffs hit, he’s taking down the entire MAGA merch empire down, those businesses thrive on Chinese exports
Insert James Carville quote: ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID. I also believe many men are more patriarchal than is publicized - this is a big thing in Latino/central American culture. And others. IMO a male same age as Kamala would’ve had really good chance to win. Just my two cents.
Life goes on. America made a decision and must now live with those consequences, good and bad. There is clearly a major shift right. Hispanics moved right. Texas is more red today than it was 4 years ago.
We relish in the fact that there might actually be some positive change compared to the last four years and with additions like Vivek musk and Ron Paul into our government we might actually get some government efficiency and clarity
your either happy with it or you’re not and if you’re not deal with it
This is not an electoral college thing that you can pin on it. He won the popular vote and the electoral college…people really just did not want Kamala Harris.
There goes our being in NATO. Here comes Project 2025 where they record women's periods to track for pregnancies. Anyone with an accent or brown skin is in jeopardy, even if they have their Birth certificate or green card. How do you prepare for fascism?
Do you not remember the daily chaos of Donald Trump? There was no peace. It will be even worse this time. He's obviously senile. It will be a constant barrage of crazy ass tweets and scandals.
Again, I know yall have intellectual challenges but that has nothing to do with today. And if the Kremlin admitting that he sent COVID tests to Putin when we had a shortage in the US isn't proof of something going on, there's verifiable evidence you can read.
I dunno. Reading "How Fascism Works' to see if I can find out what's coming. Prepare for the worst, but home for the best. I know people who'd be in danger who are leaving the country before the end of the year.
Trump alone isn’t the biggest thing, they’ve got the house, the judiciary, and probably the senate. And unlike democrats, I’m sure they intend to shove their agenda straight through. This is going to be scary for some folks, I really don’t like what’s been slated in project 2025. But we all still have work, the sun still came up, we will survive. The mature thing to do is swallow the defeat, process it, and live your life.
All of the companies that were propped up by the dems will struggle for 4 years with their stock returns. And a host of other companies will see gains as they work with reps. US will start giving discounts on weapons to Russia also probably instead of discounts to Ukraine
It's a huge victory. Thank god he won both the Electoral College and the popular vote. Reddit this is reminder that if you get youe news ans information on reddit you are listening to the echo chamber
Life will be like it was 2016-20. I think it was better back then tbh. Inflation is at an all time high in recent years and I think this Trump landslide showed everyone how tired everyday Americans are.
Inflation is high because of policies he started and a pandemic. And if you think it’s going to get better when he’s been talking about 25-100% terrifs then you need to learn a few things.
Nah, maybe he’s back in office with the electorate and popular vote because Reddit is just a giant echo chamber and people actually get news from multiple sources
Man, you really don’t read up on policy and how they work.
You’ll be even more tired. Just wait. You’ll deserve all the terrible repercussion that will come from this.
Texas will be hit hardest with Tariffs.
You must have money and think things will be okay because you can afford it.
If you think trump is gonna do anything to combat inflation you’re an absolute fucking moron. He used you to get out of a prison sentence. Nothing more
I was not excited to vote in this election. I consider myself politically centered. On the social aspect I believe everyone should have the opportunity to live with dignity and have a minimum standard/quality of life. I also believe in meritocracy, I’ve worked really hard to get where I am today and I’m still breaking my back trying to make a better living so my children can have more opportunities in the future than the ones I had. In that sense socially I’m more inclined to the left but fiscally I’m more inclined to the right. Politics (at least the one presented to the masses) have become a joke. I remember when John McCain defended Obama in one of his rallies. We really should hold our politicians to that type of standard. The circus they put on today and the polarizing bullshit rhetoric they create should really offend us all.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
You live your life like normal.
Overall the damage that Trump causes will not be immediately, unless he starts a war, but it will have long lasting effects.
Who I really feel bad about are Gazans, Ukrainians and undocumented immigrants.
JEXJJ@reddit
Not just the undocumented ones. They will "accidentally" relocate people they don't like
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Not in 4 years, trumps plan would only come true if they can establish multi term project.
d3dmnky@reddit
Why would they not start immediately?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Several reasons.
First logistics, to do mass deportations on the scale Trump wants to do you need lots of officers, lots of jails and transportation.
Second money, everything I said costs lots of money. So hey first gotta get the funding for it.
Third, economic consequences. I will never take serious a politician that wants to stop illegal immigration if first they don't hold accountable the corporations that hire them. Right now corporations use the broken system to their advantage.
Recent example was Perdue chicken, they called immigration on themselves after several workers started complaining about sexual harassment and labor law violations. They got their workers deported and payed a small fine to get rid of their legal troubles and by the time the immigration officers were leaving the plant they were already signing up the next batch of illegal workers.
Palatz@reddit
I know it's all doom and gloom right now but republicans are not going to let trump do mass deportations. Why? Because it will tank the economy and they know it.
noncongruent@reddit
If Republicans cared about the economy they wouldn't have elected Trump in the first place. He'll use executive orders for the most part since that obviates having to work through Congress, and with the SCOTUS granting him immunity for Official Acts there's no real legal basis to try and stop those. If all Official Acts are by definition legal, then no judge would dare say otherwise.
The very first people he'll go after are DACA recipients since they're most established in their lives and thus easiest to find. Mothers, children, brothers and sisters, it won't matter, he'll start rounding them up. Transportation's not really a problem either he'll commandeer Amtrak to take them to the border by the train-car load. That'll be cheaper and more efficient than buses. Along with DACA he'll start rounding up asylum seekers since there whereabouts are typically documented through their court cases. Low hanging fruit, so no ICE raids of factories and farms, plus the economic disruption will be relatively minimal so that the mass deportations can become more normalized. This will allow him to expand the roundups over time incrementally so that before too long it will be routine for tens of thousands to be deported every day.
BTW, the cartels will love this because all those DACA recipients often have family back here in the states that can be hit for ransoms, and for sure many DACA recipients will be killed if the ransom isn't paid. The flood of deportees into Mexico will also destabilize the Mexican government, making it easier for the cartels to take it over outright. At that point the cartels might even start mass executions of deportees at the border, maybe even in plain sight of the border on TV, which the Trumpers will eat right up. That'll just egg on more roundups and deportations, and for sure lots of Trump's "enemies" who are citizens will get deported too. In fact, ICE already accidentally deports dozens of citizens every year and have been for a long, long time. The extra citizens deported will be lost in the noise. Hopefully their families can pay the ransom.
Palatz@reddit
When I said republicans I wasn't talking about the voters I'm talking about the leaders.
There are not going to be massive deportations of people working on farms.
Republicans are spinless, bigots but they care about their money. They use immigrants as a talking point so their voter base will vote for them. As soon as they are in power they move on to the next thing.
They will not take more refugees and "protect" the border. That's it. They will protect the money of the rich. The rich are the ones that benefit of undocumented labor the most.
Randallsvge@reddit
Remindme! 4 Years.
david_jason_54321@reddit
I feel bad for pregnant women with medical complications.
L1ttleProfessor@reddit
My fiancé and I are in an unfortunate position here. We are marrying late in the game and her window to have a baby is quite limited. She is near terrified of getting pregnant here in Texas
ASignificantPen@reddit
How do you think this would change if Harris won? I am truly baffled that people think Harris winning would wave a magic wand or something. Please explain the logic?
david_jason_54321@reddit
It would make it more likely she would put supreme court justices in that will change the ruling at some point in the future. It would also make it less likely we get a national abortion ban or any legislation that would make it harder for women to family plan including access to birth control. Also reduces the likelihood of reversing marital rape laws. It also improves the likelihood of rapes being prosecuted. Those are just the things I can think of that directly affect women's reproductive health and independence.
ASignificantPen@reddit
There’s no “changing the ruling.” You have to have a case that goes to the Supreme Court. And ask any lawyer, Roe v Wade didn’t actually have any law backing it up. It was upheld based on something called Stare Decisis. Meaning it’s been upheld for so long judges can just keep going with it. This time they didn’t. What they did in Roe v Wade was pull a rabbit out of a hat and then judges kept going with it to give legislatures time to put in a law. They didn’t.
I am not really on Board with their decision, but I understand it. Because the legislature didn’t previously put in the laws, now it’s up to the citizens to do their part. Campaign, vote, beat the streets and get candidates elected that have your same ideals.
david_jason_54321@reddit
They said Row v Wade was settled law until they overturned it. They could use the same logic to restore it. All you need is Judges that believe it is a constitutional right. You can believe it's a rabbit out of a hat but that's been said of a lot of decisions.
jaywhatisgoingon@reddit
This is why I’m not getting pregnant next year like me and my husband planned to. I’m just too afraid.
hyperthetical_mind@reddit
Same here. We want a kid, but I want to know I'll be there to see them grow up.
david_jason_54321@reddit
I understand and I'm sorry. I have a high school daughter and am a little scared for her.
Thipere@reddit
What happened to men??? How about you be a father and tell her NOT to have sex with just anyone, and if she can’t hold herself, to use one of the MANY birth control options out there. The fact that you had the courage to post such a thing publicly makes me doubt whether you’re trolling or not.
noncongruent@reddit
It's probably not a bad idea for parents of little girls to put their girl on birth control as soon as they start menstruating because there are lots of incels out there that would love to rape a baby into a girl knowing that the law pretty much guarantees that baby will get born.
Thipere@reddit
Yeah, “protect” the little girls by pumping then with birth control. Also, you talk about incels while supporting a candidate that allows men to be in the same bathroom as little girls? I suggest you check your logic.
noncongruent@reddit
Trumpers are the ones obsessed with making sure that 9 year old girls have to carry their rape baby to term, and ensuring the little girl goes into 4th grade with a Cesarean scar since girls that age can't deliver due to their pelvis still being child-sized. Maybe you can explain why since you're a Trumper?
david_jason_54321@reddit
I hope you understand that nothing you stated prevents medical complications in pregnancy that could require an abortion to save the life of a woman. Are you suggesting that women in red states should no longer have children?
Thipere@reddit
Straw argument; no one is remotely suggesting that. Besides, nobody is arguing against a procedure to save the life of the mother; Trump himself stated multiple times that he is in favor of that, so your entire rhetoric is based on feelings and illusion instead of reality.
david_jason_54321@reddit
And yet it is currently happening
GroovyGramPam@reddit
I have a daughter, two daughters-in-law, and five granddaughters. I’m so sad for them. And all women of child-bearing age.
jaywhatisgoingon@reddit
I fear for all women, this was a big deal this election. Everything aside, our health was on the line.
david_jason_54321@reddit
Definitely agree
GenSgtBob@reddit
I think, it probably would be better to get pregnant and have a child now than later (at least if the plan is to continue to reside in Texas)? Considering that there is already a OB/GYN shortage in Texas and the majority of the current population of doctors in residency in the state do not plan on remaining here post residency and the older generation of doctors in the field planning on retiring early, I'd imagine that finding good and reputable doctors it will get worse over time and repairing the damage of these policies will take a longer time.
But having a child right now is only logical if you somehow know for sure know that there won't be any complications. And that must be scary to not have very many options.
I think while there is some federal impact, this is now largely a state issue. Until the rich and politicians start seeing their wives and daughters unable to get decent medical care and even deaths directly in their immediate family as a result, nothing will change.
It's really unfortunate that women in Texas will have to suffer in such a way. I can't really imagine how hard it must be to be a woman in Texas right now and the coming years
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
Isn't that an ironic turn of events for a party trying to force people to have more children? I suspect you are not the only couple making this decision in the country.
LadyOfVoices@reddit
Just like the other commenter said…. I was planning on having several more kids (always wanted a big family), but being 40 and living here in Texas…. That dream was buried last night. I will not risk my life or leave my 7 year old autistic son without a mother.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
This is already a thing, a Kamala win would've not helped anyone on this issue.
tltr4560@reddit
??? He is the one that overturned roe v wade
IveKnownItAll@reddit
No HE did not, just like Obama didn't legalize gay marriage, the Supreme Court did.
madster40@reddit
With the judges HE put in place. And likely he will replace the two old ones with young ones, so this will be the court we have for the next 30 years...
noncongruent@reddit
I think I read Thomas said he would retire as soon as Trump got elected so that a much younger and more conservative judge can be installed in his place.
tltr4560@reddit
Yeah you don’t know how this works
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
The Supreme Court did and he was smart enough to appoint young enough judges that they don't have to worry about replacing them soon.
The only way Kamala would be able to get roe v wade protections on the federal level would be
a)pack the court and get it overturned which never would happen cause democrats don't got the balls plus they would need super majorities in Congress
b) constitutional amendment, again won't happen but that's cause democrats would need lots of majorities in state and federal levels that at this point they just can't get and
c) with a super majority in Congress they could pass laws around it but they would be challenged by the states and the Supreme Court would overturn it.
psilent@reddit
You’re not wrong, but you’re downvoted because it sucks. They could have packed the judiciary with judges willing to interpret existing laws more favorably though.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
When have the democrats ever had the balls to be that brazen?
We're talking about the people that get stopped on their tracks by the parliamentarian.
You know what republicans do when the parliamentarian tells them no? They fire them and put one in that will do everything they say. That's why republicans get results.
GroundedTexan@reddit
I think you’ve got the parties mixed up. Democrats push polices forward and move the country left all while the republicans sit on their hands and do nothing. Republicans are nothing more than speed bumps to the left.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
What was the last big thing democrats did to push left?
ABK2445@reddit
That’s not true. With the house and senate leaning red she could’ve vetoed a national ban. That’s out the window now and could easily become reality in the next two years.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
A national ban is not happening.
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
there's already one in committee..so a national ban is absolutely happening now.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Doubtful
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
really, Republican introduced it. The Senate, House, White House, and Supreme Court are under control of the Republicans
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
It'll cost them the midterms. If this gets done it will be done during trumps lame duck session.
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
you think Trump thinks that far ahead..he doesn't. He literally doesn't think about cause and effect. In fact, no politician does, one of the goals of the GOP has always been a national abortion ban. I will be saying I told you WHEN he signs it, just like I was saying I told you so when the supreme court overturned Roe vs Wade, and I called it when he appointed Amy Coney Barrett.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Yes I'm not talking about trumps political capital. He doesn't need it anymore.
I'm talking about the gop political capital that they need for the midterms. Once they accomplish everything else in their agenda after the midterms and possibly after the next general electio. Then will they think about a federal abortion ban seriously.
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
But that's the thing even after the supreme Court overruled roe vs Wade..they still took the house and Senate. The people have short memories and elections are ultimately won by how much money you can raise.. Republicans raised a lot more and do a good job at drowning out their opponents.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Kamala raised 3 times as much money.
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
we are talking about the house and Senate..you literally said you didn't care about Trump's capital. So now Kamala capital matters?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
lol you think I'm talking about money.
Look up what political capital means.
Wrong_Gas_4490@reddit
I know exactly what it means..it includes resources which includes funding.
Worried-Turn-6831@reddit
How can you be sure?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
There's a lot of other stuff republicans need to do that will require all that political capital. They might get it done in the lame duck part of trumps presidency tho. That's why the midterms will be very important.
Worried-Turn-6831@reddit
Do they really need that capital when they control all 3 branches in January?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Yes, they still got the midterms to go thru.
There's a lot of more low hanging fruit that they need to get thru first. Foreign policy which Americans do not care about unless we put boots on the ground that's an easy pick first to give their defense industry buddies more money, all of the environmental stuff that again a lot of people don't care and don't understand about, immigration of course, tax cuts will probably up right at the beginning of his term, and gutting regulation and federal agencies.
Only after they've done all of that will they even start thinking about abortion.
ABK2445@reddit
I sincerely hope you are right.
heramba@reddit
Not true. Trump has promised to enact a nation wide abortion ban. Kamala could have done something else, or at the least not do anything to make it worse.
lulu2320@reddit
Whew, so many upvotes for such a false statement
Thipere@reddit
If you want to know which posts are correct, all you have to do is look at the number of down votes in them; too many emotional leftists on here.
lulu2320@reddit
And the opposite too 🤣
Thipere@reddit
Exactly.
GroundedTexan@reddit
He never said that, and his responses are actually the opposite. He did what he wanted and gave it to the states.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Trump has said many things, I do believe that the conservative base is itching for that but it will cost a lot of political power. I think they'll leave the mess we got now.
ABK2445@reddit
It will be way too tempting not to take advantage of an unchecked Congress. All branches are red.
ThatGuy972@reddit
You are full of shit..he promised the exact opposite. Try reading you might actually educate yourself
Proof_Obligation_855@reddit
Trump has never said anything remotely close to that. Fear mongering much? https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/01/trump-abortion-veto-national-ban-00182091
voodoobunny999@reddit
Well, that’s a bad take.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Liberals eat the political propaganda that democrats toss at him just like conservatives do.
Just cause reddit libs don't want to believe it doesn't mean I'm wrong.
HenrikCrown@reddit
I feel bad for the poor rural white people who always fall for the same trick
And for what? So they can see a few bad hombres get shipped out and eggs can be 2 cents cheaper?
Broad-Patient-2013@reddit
Im a liberal. I hink people got sick of the dems not actually following through. Like how Obama pushed even harder in Iraq and Afghanistan after he promised to get us out. Then bombed 5 more countries, overthrew more governments and approved years of secret war crimes in Yemen. I hated Trumps immigration ban, but Obama did far worse. The affordable care act is a complete disaster, he bailed put the banks while letting 5 million families lose their homes, millions others lost pensions. Oh and he never signed roe v wade into law even tho he said that was the first law he'd sign day 1.
Then we had this miserable inflation with Biden and another huge expensive war. Largest and bloodiest and most expensive war in Europe since 1945 with no end in sight.
Then they told everyone they were crazy for thinking Biden was mentally struggling. Then they couped him when it became obvious he was seriously not okay, and then replaced him with the last place finisher of the 2020 primaries with no vote. Kind of like how Bernie won the 2016 primaries but the party rigged it for Hilary, leasing to DWSs resignation. Trump won both times against candidates the democrats didn't even choose. Maybe the party should be taken to task here instead of some mail carrier.
I'm very upset with the dem party before I'll be mad at normal people. Trump should have been an easy out both times, it takes a serious amount of horrible politics and mismanagement to end up here. This country is not becoming the fourth Reich. I think it's just sick of establishment politicians. This should be a wake up call for american liberals, should probably stop telling half the country we hate them, and actually try to organize with them lol. And we should stop pretending democrats actually do what they platform on. Often, they do the exact opposite. This has come at a great cost in public trust, and I can't blame them.
Admirable_Panda6626@reddit
The man ended his campaign by giving a televised tutorial on the art of giving a blow job!
Significant-Pilot892@reddit
That was awesome. He is a human being and he is spontaneous. Harris, on the other hand, cannot finish a single spontaneous sentence without losing her place and laughing to cover that up.
Significant-Pilot892@reddit
Tremendous post.
During this campaign, Harris, her shills across the media and her brigades on Reddit lionized Liz Cheney and (gasp) Robert Kagan, two depraved warmongers. Then Trump (who is anti-war and very popular for this among some on the very far left as myself) openly ridiculed Cheney and the brigades savaged Trump. The Democratic Party is the party of Permawar for Israel.
Forsaken-nurse617@reddit
So why are you still a lib/dem? How’s that working out for you?
TXRhody@reddit
I think Dems learned the wrong lessons from 2016. They thought all they had to do was hold rallies in the blue wall states. They were learning from Hillary's mistakes and not Trump's successes.
Trump taught us that all you have to do is make extremely bold claims and promises. Harris should have thrown Biden under the bus and promised everybody everything. She should have promised to end the war in Gaza, Medicare for all, a public option, force Russia out of Ukraine, a path to citizenship, end illegal immigration, cats and dogs living together, stripper factories, beer volcanos, anything she could think of. If anybody asked her how she was going to do any of those things, she should have grabbed her crotch, called them fake news, and then laughed maniacally. We now know that's how you win over the American people.
Snap_Grackle_Poptart@reddit
Starting with "I'm a liberal" but following with a bunch of MAGA falsehoods... that's fun.
TimeCarry6@reddit
Sure, bud. You can always rely on Trump for following through and keeping his word!
How about that border wall? It’s all that he promised! Except for the part that has fallen down, or never got built because his crony Steve Bannon pocketed all the public’s money who were suckered into donating for its construction.
Don‘t you just love how Trump threw out Obamacare and replaced it with his new and improved version? Wait, what? He only showed a 60 Minutes reporter a huge binder full of blank pages and random orders, but no Trump healthcare plan was ever written in that binder or ever implemented?
That‘s how I know that I can trust Trump! He’s the one with the thieving cronies, blank binders, and lies, lies, lies. SMH
CommanderSquirt@reddit
The Bush administration bailed out banks with the TARP Act.
Unlucky-Counter3211@reddit
Finally, some intelligence. Thank you. I think you hit it on the head. Why everyone has to be so full of hate and vitriol, is beyond me. Refreshing. Too bad you don't hear this from many…
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
It’s so interesting how the prescription is always to cooperate more with the right when the right is increasingly divisive and now actually openly advocating violence against political opponents. It’s working quite well for them.
obamaownsbeachfront@reddit
Your comment should be the top comment on this post.
I don't know why more people don't understand that voting for Trump is the easiest middle finger you can ever give the the establishment. Only President we have ever had that didn't hold political office prior.
tltr4560@reddit
Bringing up Biden’s age and mental stagnation is a moot point because what did they end up doing in the end? Electing another fucking fossil who is also showing mental decline
datdouche@reddit
Trump is nowhere near cooked, mentally, as Joe “We Beat Medicaid” Biden. Joe is an order of magnitude worse lol. Not a moot point at all. Don’t take my word for it—obviously voters agree.
tltr4560@reddit
Trump was talking about/addressing the Philadelphia mayor or something like that when he was speaking to a crowd in North Carolina.
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Trump was talking about World War II and airports?? WTF are you talking about
You must have never worked with folks with early signs of dementia and Alzheimer’s
Broad-Patient-2013@reddit
I think it's important because everyone had been told he was still sharp as a tack. The debate showed reality was the exact opposite, and it was creepy how the whole media and party members were saying he was fine before, and even after. I think tapper referred to it as Orwellian, and I agree. Trust is hard won and easily lost. I went to Italy soon after that debate and my whole family there was asking about it, bewildered, and assumed Trump would win by default at that point. And they were correct.
tltr4560@reddit
Yes I agree they did oversell how he’s still “sharp as a tack.” But the characteristic of age never came up again after Kamala got put into the race even though Trump was literally showing signs of mental decline himself during his campaign (and even before his campaign).
aaarya83@reddit
The explanation I have for what happened. The denial. Is that the entire circle of White House staff didn’t want to loose their privileges. Access thr good life. Etc. So they came up with this scheme to keep Biden. When it failed. They managed to drum up support for Kamala on the logic that the changes to all the circle will be minimal. They were so wrong. But they succeeded is conning the Democratic Party. No primaries. She was the. Chosen candidate
obamaownsbeachfront@reddit
I don't think people appreciate this enough, we as a country were straight up lied to and gas light for several years about the mental capabilities of the president. The dem nominee was not chosen by the people but by small elite group of dem politicians at the 11th hour when they couldn't lie anymore.
sirfreakish@reddit
Thank you.
I consider myself a liberal and I cannot stand how the Dems have operated since ousting Bernie. I'm these next 4 years I hope the Dems take a long look in the mirror at all of these ridiculous antics they've pulled.
Upbeat-Sky-4771@reddit
Honestly this, I don't like the Orange man either but, lets be real when you lose the House/Senate/Electoral and the Popular vote, its time for the Dems to look in the mirror and self reflect. Dem's are full of the promise and projection and never follow through. Both sides suck.
oakcliffn2acp@reddit
100% spot on. I dislike Trump but voters are not stupid. They saw and heard the Dem’s message of continuous “Trump Sucks” via all media and decided to send the Dem Party a message. The voters see the unicorns and rainbows for what they are. The Dem Party is what has polarized America and forced a Trump victory, just like 2016. They have to eject the crazies and find common sense.
RequirementIll8141@reddit
lol has nothing to do with it majority of Americans can’t read on a middle school level. They are stupid that’s it.
TeaKingMac@reddit
Yes, the dem party is the one who carried around nooses during the Obama presidency. The dem party is the one that attempted to invade congress.
Yes, clearly it is the democrats who are at fault
NonlocalA@reddit
I'm pretty sure Trump voters don't understand how tariffs, the government, or basic economics work, so I guess we can agree to disagree on whether or not they're stupid.
I think what we're going to find is whether Trump ends up being Wilson or Hoover bad. If he is, which seems pretty likely based off his stated policy positions, voters will finally realize why Mom and Dad kept telling them not to stick a fork in the electrical outlet.
RequirementIll8141@reddit
You talking about Obama without bringing up Bush and Clinton?
Clinton was the cause of our economy then during Bush and Obama they both cleaned it up from the ish that he did. The wars under Daddy Bush and Bush Jr. that they went in under Obama to fix it
Yall have to understand truly what happens during an administration the effects don’t come a lot of times until the next administration. Ie the inflation, taxes that is from Trump first term. The tax plan we in now is tax cut and jobs act signed in by Trump 2018 it doesn’t expire til 2025.
Trump declared COVID a national disaster when we didn’t even have policies on a biological disaster. When he declared this it enacted federal services and resources for public assistance, states and businesses with SBA. Created so much fraud, waste, and abuse. There is a deficit from this alone but in the beginning he kept saying this is fake this is fake.
Biden was not mentally well and neither is Trump. They are old af like damn near 80s it makes no sense.
I thought he would at least have an immigration plan he hadn’t said anything. He did reallocate funds from FEMA disaster relief fund to customs border patrol during his first term it was millions of dollars for the wall and immigration housing camps. They money was for Americans and disasters and it wasn’t replenished then he starts bashing FEMA during Helene and Milton when he decimated their budget from the customs thing and the wall, then declaring covid a national disaster. FEMA program and budget handled that bc the president said so. Nobody was talking about this
We will see what happens when the tax cut and jobs act stops in 2025 if Congress doesn’t extend it
cherrybeebop@reddit
The people voting for Trump aren't normal, though. Supporting a hate filled, incoherent, convicted rapist and fraudster whose lies are easily verified as lies for the highest position of power is not normal.
Illustrious_Swing645@reddit
The war in Ukraine is Biden's fault? Inflation caused by Trump's policy's are Biden's fault?
lolwhat
WonderfulChocolate16@reddit
I wish more democrats/liberals were like you....
just_browsing96@reddit
Well after this, I genuinely do hate them.
SneksOToole@reddit
Ukraine hasn’t even been a huge expensive war. It’s a war of defense where we spend a bunch of weapons we’re not using offensively. We don’t and won’t have troops on the ground there. And there’s no end in sight because Russia knows it can hold out for a Trump Presidency to cut aid to Ukraine.
Inflation has come down to 2% and we didn’t have any rise in unemployment- we literally have the best possible outcome from that high inflation, which occurred everywhere and was supply driven.
I don’t disagree with you that Democrats have to message this stuff better, but whenever anyone tries to argue the truth, it’s drowned out by Trump’s rhetoric. His statements are snappier, they’re easier to internalize, but they’re fundamentally untrue.
AeroWrench@reddit
I lost the link to the article already, but some of the most Latino areas of the state flipped for Trump. This ain't just the poor rural whites, unfortunately. As a left-leaner I wish people would stop fantasizing every other November about the state flipping. I love the enthusiasm, but it's just not realistic and I've always prepared myself for disappointment.
strog91@reddit
Indeed, if current trends continue, Hispanics will be majority Republican in another election or two. They voted 45% for Trump yesterday.
I wonder if the Democrats are going to double down with the “Republicans are the party of angry uneducated white men” narrative, or if they’re going to reconsider their strategy of splitting voters by race and treating each ethnic community like it’s a homogenous voting bloc that only cares about issues specific to their skin color.
Negative_Ad_8065@reddit
The Republican Party is now simply the “ party of angry uneducated”. No party has done anything to alleviate their issues despite countless promises. They got conned by Trump (the irony of believing a billionaire narcissist as a solution is so rich) because he was different than any establishment politicians. And he is. In a worse kind of way…
ThatGuy972@reddit
Lol must be rough being so out of touch that you think thats why people voted the way they did. I feel bad for uneducated liberal who cant see past the trash and lies they are fed.
Pepesilvia_Is_Real@reddit
So educate me about what was so bad about the bi-partisan border bill? Ya know, the one Trump had the republicans purposely tank so that he could run on immigration? I’m just an uneducated liberal so I’d really like to get your opinion on this because you seem like you have an awful lot to say but not a lot to back it up.
RoyalRenn@reddit
I'm not sure shipping out the people who are working in egg and chicken farms is going to bring egg prices down. Sure, we can replace them with under-educated white guys who want $25/hour for that type of work. Seems pretty inflationary to me.
Shirkaday@reddit
Yeah except (and correct me if I'm wrong here) stuff is gonna cost more once the new regime kicks in if they follow through with their plans.
I have a few very staunch trumpers that I'm friends with who post some pretty wild stuff on the ol' Facebook, so my plan is to do kinda the same thing when we don't see gas/grocery prices go down.
Like make the "I did that!" sticker except with the tyrant on it, or like "Hey, why are gas prices going up? I thought that was supposed to instantly get better on day one! Oh you have to undo what Biden did? Sounds like an excuse to me, I want results, now!"
Spinning4Sanity@reddit
And guess what…..they r going to come right back across the border. Lol
MaizeBeast01@reddit
Don’t worry, as their hospitals continue to close and things get more expensive they’ll just blame the democrats ☺️
fvalt05@reddit
Yup when they cut ACA, I'm sure Dems will be blamed too
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
I don't feel bad for them at all.
LostSheepherder4025@reddit
I don't if they did not learn the first time. What happens next is on them.
TheClownIsReady@reddit
“Undocumented” = illegal.
And the alternative to Trump was far, far worse. Fortunately, Texans knew. And many, many others.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Trump lite was far worse?
Bootstrap1029@reddit
and by "undocumented" you mean illegals, right? call them what they are
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
What's the difference between a legal and an illegal migrant?
noncongruent@reddit
They're confusing someone arriving legally on a visa that subsequently expired and someone who entered the country illegally. Also, anyone here without documentation has the right by treaty to request asylum and legal due process regardless of how they arrived.
Bootstrap1029@reddit
is this a serious question? one came over, filled out paperwork to be allowed in and work while waiting to become a citizen.....then became a citizen. the other swam a river.
what's the difference between buying a concert ticket and climbing the fence to get in. one is right and one is wrong.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Paperwork=documents
The difference is documentation thus undocumented.
Bootstrap1029@reddit
.....you may not know it yet, but you just proved my point
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Undocumented
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
As a transgender adult I have less rights now than I did 8 years ago as a transgender child, and nobody likes those 2 works together. I dunno, trans people are the only one talking about this so i really do get the feeling that no one cares, but I have to. This is my life. I am scared. It is becoming harder to obtain any kind of medical treatment.
They're putting up more barriers to make these things difficult. No, I don't mean "oh they're trying to make sure only the people who truly need the care receive it" they want no one to receive this care. I want to genuinely explain these things and why they're scary but it's hard without writing a novel.
2 months ago in Texas, they made it impossible to change your gender marker. Theyre also putting anyone who requests this on a list to monitor them. This fucking sucks bc changing your gender marker was already a process that required you to be physically transitioned for years, with doctors letters and such to support your case. That was a reasonable amount of criteria, not just anyone can do it you need a history and a team of support. The only person who needs to know your chromosomes is your doctor, and you still have to tell them. Changing the marker is solely for social satisfaction, pulling out your ID and knowing anyone who saw you a certain way before, won't think of you differently now. It's a simple piece of mind.
Taking that away for example is scary. Why? It feels solely to stomp on our personal freedoms. How does it negatively affect anyone? It's simply about control. I am unfortunately a part of a small, quiet enough minority to control. At least they will continue trying to control our narrative, and speak of who we are for us. Personally, I just work at a petstore, love my family, and keep to myself. I'd like to continue doing so in the way that makes me happy, just like you get to.
noncongruent@reddit
Are you able to work on an escape plan?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Yeah I forgot about y'all tho this sucks what's worse is that democrats didn't even stood up for y'all at all. No messaging aimed directly at the trans community. That tells me they're shifting right even on this basic human rights policy.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
I don't particularly disagree. I'm somewhat of the opinions modern democracy is just old school republicanism. Sorry to dump on you btw. I don't wanna just be a whiney queer and I think the best way to fight that is to actually explain how the issues effect my life and why that matters to me so. I want ppl to understand. Thanks!
MusicToMaEars@reddit
Yea, we don’t give a shit about struggling legal American citizens, fuck them. Amirite.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Trump won right?
Isn't your boy supposed to do everything to make your life better?
Why would I care about someone who is supposed to benefit from these results?
I worry about the people that are about to have their lives completely torn apart.
MusicToMaEars@reddit
You can donate your entire paycheck to them to keep the efforts up. Join their armies or I’m sure there’s other ways. Keep supporting my them from the comfort of your couch.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Huh
MusicToMaEars@reddit
IF YOURE WORRIED ABOUT THEM, GO DO SOMETHING. IF YOU DONT THINK ITS YOUR FIGHT BUT SOMEONE ELSES THEN SHUT UP.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
What do you do for the struggling American citizens?
MusicToMaEars@reddit
Your response is all I needed to learn about your values. You’re doing nothing for people you claim to be worried about, instead you make angry post while eating your avocado toast.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
I don't like avocado
MusicToMaEars@reddit
I do, I hear it’s good for your skin. Advice was given to me from an American Citizen that has ties to a latin American country. I’m sad I don’t remember which. But she is a wonderful person.
chayatoure@reddit
Let’s raise their taxes and continue down the path of deregulation, I’m sure more unbridled capitalism will help them!
rarekly@reddit
All groups having an awesome time under Biden and Harris.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
I mean are they gonna have a bet tree r time under Trump?
rarekly@reddit
Would they have had a better time under more Harris?
I agree with your overall point. Let’s treat each other well and make the world better where we stand, where we live. Extreme emotional reactions and purely emotional decisions aren’t making anything better - so again I appreciate your calm and measured response.
StationAdmirable571@reddit
Don't feel bad for the Gazans because of Trump; Biden and the Democrats aren't much different.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
I feel bad regardless of who would've won.
On these 3 areas they both have the same policy to a greater or lesser effect.
YogurtclosetLow6427@reddit
Maybe you should go volunteer and join their army? Or open your home up for immigrants!
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Why would I join the army if I'm against war?
YogurtclosetLow6427@reddit
You feel bad for them no? If you’re against war but supported Biden then you’re basically contradicting yourself.
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
Why would you feel bad for people who aren’t supposed to be here, who criminally entered the US while others followed the process, who eat up our tax money and who take advantage of the system? Right here in Dallas I was robbed and pistol whipped by illegal immigrants, so there are absolutely criminally minded people coming across the border, and when I called the police they said they can’t do anything because these people are impossible to find because they aren’t documented, and a lot of them who do get deported use Coyotes to get right back over to live a life of crime because hope else are they going to make money except dealing drugs, working under the table, etc.
Whether you want to accept it or not there are victims in America to undocumented immigrants. I don’t get why people think it’s okay to just do whatever you want and come over here illegally while hard working Americans have to fit the bill. So when you say you feel bad for illegal immigrants I have to say I feel bad for Americans who have to deal with the less than savory ones, and really any of them if American tax payer money is being used to support them. If you feel so bad for them what are you doing to support them? Have you donated money, time or shelter for them? I’m guessing not. Which makes me wonder how vested you are in your support.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Because for every bad hombre there's over 200 of hard working law abiding undocumented immigrants that have been in this country for decades paying their taxes and creating a better future for their family.
Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at less than half the rate as us citizens or legal immigrants.
Lastly your story is bs. How do you know they were illegal if they weren't arrested?
Oh and to answer your question I'm marring an illegal so that her and her family can get legal status.
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
Because I was setup and the person who set me up to get robbed later told me who the gang was. The story isn’t BS dude it happened to me. There are plenty of people here that need jobs. How are they paying taxes if they’re undocumented? You mean getting taxes by employers who have them off the books?
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
But you don't know they're undocumented.
Most undocumented immigrants pay their taxes same payroll taxes you pay including fica for which they never receive any benefits. Even if they worked "under the table" their employer still has to report their earnings to the irs so they have to file taxes.
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
And that’s a bunch of bullshit most of them do off jobs or mow lawns or clean houses and don’t pay taxes, be real. This isn’t the perfect little world you’re making it out to be. I’ve seen it first hand. You read some news article. Reality wins.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
I know several undocumented people that pay taxes because I literally help them do their taxes.
Not paying taxes is the easiest way to get deported.
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
lol omg I’m sorry you know two people so pay taxes and I know ten that don’t. Let’s just end this here it’s a waste of my breath. Like I said hopefully they deport your son to be wife so she can’t stink up this country and bring her 800 relatives over here.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Finally there it is just be openly racist and save yourself the trouble of acting like you care about anything else.
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
Yes I do know they’re undocumented she literally told me the story of them crossing the desert to come here illegally. You really need to read. One of them came back three times, some piece of shit called Mousey.
musiquarium@reddit
Removing the aca will be very bad news for many people
comebacktome23@reddit
I’m parried for all my DACA friends
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
Me too. They're the easiest target and it's gross cause they expose themselves to that just so they can amend the wrongs of their parents under the promise that one day there would be a path to citizenship for them. Worst is these people are the type of immigrants that everyone wants.
OkAdhesiveness3246@reddit
What about americans? None of the people you mentioned pay taxes. What about the tax payers????
Connect-Influence-93@reddit
Undocumented immigrants paid $96,000,000,000 in 2022 through an ITN, they paid into social security and Medicare but would never be able to withdraw that in retirement.
burn469@reddit
lol right
cherrybeebop@reddit
You all really are sorely uneducated. Millions of hateful people who don't understand basic things deciding the future for everyone else.
tltr4560@reddit
Undocumented immigrants pay taxes lmao. They paid almost 100 billion in taxes in 2022
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
What about them?
For the majority of the population taxes will remain the same, our deficit will just be bigger.
Bliqe@reddit
Want a pat on the back for paying taxes buddy?
IvetRockbottom@reddit
He didn't win so much as we all lost.
Fallenjace@reddit
Women will lose rights over their bodies.
We'll likely help Russia win its war.
Medicaid/Medicare/Disability/Social Security will be gutted while tax breaks for the wealthy are reinforced.
The people who protest will have the army used against them.
In the end, people will starve and die.
RevolutionaryFuel547@reddit
yall are so dramatic
MadNugs7@reddit
Did you see how dramatic Trump was in 2020? Or his cult in 2021? This is nothing.
Hot_Leather_8552@reddit
As opposed to how democrats put forward that he was a Russian agent and spied on him as he ran. Used fake documents that they paid for from Russia. Tried to use force to over throw the goverment by firebombing the white house grounds, burning cities down, and trying to burn a federal court house down.
hellointhere8D@reddit
The price of central hvac will be double to tripple in a few years.
R410a phase out
Trump tarrifs.
Inflation.
Lack of labor force.
You better buy window units while they are still >$1000.00
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
3 women have died recently from septic shock after being denied an abortion on their terminal pregnancies. Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, and Josseli Barnica were there names. Nevaehs mother watched her bleed out, black blood dripping from her nose and mouth as her body was overwhelmed by sepsis. After 3 ER visits, her baby still had a heartbeat, she could not receive an abortion until the baby miscarried, bleeding profusely from her groin but it was too late. One of the last things Nevaeh was able to express was her fear, to which her mother told her "You can do this, God gives us strength" she had begged doctors to save her daughter, but any abortion performed with a heartbeat would result in legal trouble for them.
Nobody who is scared is being dramatic. People are paid money to report women crossing borders for abortion. Women are DYING.
The-Purple-Church@reddit
Trump didn’t do that. Incompetent doctors did. Trump also did not over-turn Roe, did he?
Also, Biden and Harris had years to do something about ‘women’s rights’ but didn’t, did they?
Boring-Pudding1523@reddit
here ya go.
The-Purple-Church@reddit
Exactly! The Supreme Court gave it back to the states where it belongs.
What could Harris possibly do about it?
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
Just to be clear it didn’t belong to the states. Also what the hell is Biden supposed to do to check a Trump-appointed court? It’s painfully obvious our SCOTUS has no checks on it.
The-Purple-Church@reddit
Exactly! Harris ran her campaign on restoring ‘women’s rights’ knowing full well she couldn’t do shit about Roe. And you guys all went around tell everyone who didn’t care about how you were going to vote to save your daughter’s rights….
They play you for fools.
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
From what I’ve seen there were legal loopholes that could have provided some national abortion legalization. But I didn’t really pay attention to that since I’m not a woman. But you’re also ignoring that if Kamala HAD swept, there would have been more liberal reps in states, which could have changed their state’s laws.
Also I think it’s okay to vote for the candidate that isn’t against women’s right to healthcare, and generally a much better truth teller than her opponent.
The-Purple-Church@reddit
That’s OK. Its belongs in the States.
Boring-Pudding1523@reddit
Also, have they had the votes in the house or senate to get any legislation done?
StockAdvanced2644@reddit
How many have died from attacks by illegal immigrants
Bigol_Tomato@reddit
“Illegal” or “legal” immigration is an imaginary concept. People have been moving across continents for longer than we’ve known how to fckn read
It’s like making having a loving relationship with your partner illegal, which…
Inevitable_Profile24@reddit
Fewer than have died by Americans murdering people
soonerfreak@reddit
They died under a Democrat and would continue to die under Harris. She was running on the status quo not radical changes required to bring back rights in red states. Trump lost 3 million votes and Harris lost 15 million from 2020 Biden. It's on the party, they failed again like they failed in 2016.
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
Imagine blaming Dems for the actions of Republicans. Check yourself into a mental asylum
ASignificantPen@reddit
Actions of the SCOTUS. Which was returning the issue to STATES rights. I am not saying I agree with the Court ignoring Stare Decsis, but come on…. Harris winning wasn’t going to change this. If you want reform, then go beat the streets and get it. I didn’t vote for the politicians that supported the Texas ban. Did you even look up, which politicians did support it? Did you help campaign for the candidates that shared the same values you do?
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
Texas never had a choice to vote for it you inbred. You must be in favor of slavery going back to the states too then.
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soonerfreak@reddit
Imagine refusing to blame the party that's lost 2 of 3 elections against Trump. Do you love losing?
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
I know for a fact you didn't vote lmfao. You're an incel couch fucker who complains on reddit but can't spend 5 minutes to actually vote against facism. Pathetic
RevolutionaryFuel547@reddit
i don't know why this isn't clicking with them
LevelAd3311@reddit
It's crazy how people don't hold their STATES responsible for things like this.
noncongruent@reddit
Texas has to be forced at gunpoint to give up slavery, 900 days after the Emancipation Proclamation, 71 days after the Confederate army surrendered, and 24 days after the Confederate army in Texas disbanded. In fact, Texas was the last state to have slavery as a governmental institution. A Union general had to come down to Texas to force the end of slavery here. Maybe leaving some things up to states is a bad idea? Especially states that have as deep a history of discrimination and bigotry as us?
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
People are extremely stupid in acting like tyranny can only come from the federal government. It doesn’t matter if it’s a state or the president, if they were to take your house from you right now you’re going to feel equally wronged either way.
MS-07B-3@reddit
Did the state deny the abortion or did the hospital? The law as written clearly allows it.
noncongruent@reddit
The doctors chose not to do it. The reason being is that the law doesn't clearly spell out when doctors can't be prosecuted for doing an abortion. This makes it a dice roll for the doctor, and after investing a decade of their lives and hundreds of thousands of dollars in their career and medical license they're certainly not going to be interested in rolling those dice. Want to change it? Rewrite the law to explicitly spell out exactly what procedures and when a doctor can do them. Doctors can easily come up with that list and it can be added to the law with a simple bill. When the dice roll goes away then the medicine, unencumbered by badly written laws, can come back.
lowcarson98@reddit
I feel like most people who voted for Trump don’t feel as strongly about abortion as you, I know I don’t. Yea that stuff’s terrible but I didn’t vote for him bc I want to stop abortions. I feel like a lot of democrats are single issue voters, honestly you’ve got to think bigger than that
assclown356@reddit
Fake news.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
I never thought I would live to see this... The abortion ban is one thing. It's a loss of personal freedom, which is a loss for Americans. But promoting the betrayal of your neighbors and loved ones for profit might be the most realistically indictive point towards Nazi parallels.
genericusername319@reddit
Idk I’d take people being whiny on Reddit vs people trying to overturn an election result by killing a few DC cops and storming the capitol
Texas442@reddit
That's crazy because not one cop died at the capital. But if it helps you cope that's fine.
The_Erlenmeyer_Flask@reddit
"Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.'
Unless you have evidence stating otherwise.
pharpe@reddit
This is completely false. He had a stroke that was unrelated to the riots. It just happened around that time. Correlation is not causation. There is plenty of real facts to to go after Trump on. Spreading lies and misinformation just calls into question everything you say and makes you position weaker. This has made politics nauseating as both sides seem to be doubling down.
The_Erlenmeyer_Flask@reddit
If you think it's false, go demand every single web site such as Wikipedia to remove it.
Plus, you didn't state ALL of the facts if you want to knickpick. He had 2 strokes after the riots. Spreading misinformation just calls into question everything you say & makes your position weaker.
I never said anything about Trump. Why are you?
Man.. if you don't like politics, don't give it any of your time. I don't like Putin. I don't waste any of my time learning anything about him.
Texas442@reddit
Did not die on the 6th due to the riot. He died form 2 strokes on the 7th. Even the smallest bit of research and you would know that.
The_Erlenmeyer_Flask@reddit
I like how you assumed I didn't do research & that I magically made that up. Thanks. If you question Wikipedia as a source, go complain to them.
I didn't state he died on the 6th. And I'm not interested in debating with you that his strokes that happened AFTER the 6th did or did not contribute to his death. Neither one of us are the medical examiner otherwise I would have expected you to state that from the beginning. Not one even the medical examiner knows for sure despite their results. When you have expert neurologists, U.S. Capitol Police and U.S. Justice Department have stated that they believe his injuries from the 6th caused his death, why not listen?
Secure-Animator-6587@reddit
Funny how these redditards are downvoting you cuz it doesn’t align with their beliefs
Secure-Animator-6587@reddit
Funny how these redditards are downvoting you cuz it doesn’t align with their beliefs
genericusername319@reddit
See my comment below. Medical examiner attributes his unfortunate death due at least in part to the events that occurred during the riot.
Vzninja@reddit
And why don’t we that don’t with the Covid deaths/vaccine deaths? Most are deaths from other causes right before.
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
Because without COVID it’s unlikely those things would have killed them. Being fat will shorten your lifespan, but not outright bring about your fast approaching demise. COVID could absolutely do that and being fat just helps it along.
zrich8@reddit
“The USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes.”
genericusername319@reddit
Directly from the medical examiner: “All that transpired played a role in his condition.”
zrich8@reddit
Pretty vague statement
genericusername319@reddit
Not really. Medical examiner believes the riot at least in part contributed to his death.
My original point stands: I would rather have whiny redditors than a physical altercation in DC. Do you disagree?
zrich8@reddit
We’ll see what happens in January and then can revisit this. I’ve seen violence from both sides. We can agree that there’s no need for violence.
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
The violence isn’t even close to equal. For democrats you had some rioting in certain cities that were over legitimate concerns. January 6th was a multifaceted coup attempt and attack on American institutions. All based off lies and propaganda.
zrich8@reddit
It’s not a pissing contest. Violence isn’t the answer on either side. This “our violence is less violent” solves nothing.
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
Did I say that violence is good? No I said that when the left gets violent it’s over things like police brutality or queer rights. When the right gets violent it’s about destroying our entire system of governance and installing their God Emperor into power.
zrich8@reddit
Did I say you did? You’re justifying it for a cause and condoning another for a “cause” just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean one’s right over the other. You also ignored the whole butler pa thing but hey, you do you. This won’t go anywhere because we’ll never see eye to eye and I’m ok with that. I respect your views and opinion. Have a good week 🙏🏻
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
You’re misunderstanding my point. The left and the right are not equal. It’s very true that they both engage in violence (I’ll be the first liberal to tell you BLM was a trash organization), but the right does political violence in a way that is so much more dangerous. Whether it be rhetorical or physical. Just look at Elon Musk. He is what the right thought Jack Dorsey was. Yet they’re 100% okay when the social media company is biased to them. Meanwhile beforehand Twitter was pretty well moderated and equal. It might have had a more strong left leaning presence, but generally the only people getting silenced were the ones making terroristic threats and the like.
zrich8@reddit
Sure, j6… attempted un aliving… not close…
IllNeighborhood5714@reddit
There will be no violence. That’s y’all’s thing. Republicans were literally threatening civil war if trump lost. Trumps voting base is made up of conspiracy nuts, incels, and future mass shooters.
zrich8@reddit
That’s a massive generalization considering he’ll win the popular vote.
Lord_K_Avatar@reddit
Didn't he already win the popular vote? Or do Dems genuinely believe Kamala is getting 22 million votes outta nowhere at once
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
It’s hard to read when you’re illiterate. Keep at it buddy
zrich8@reddit
Ahhh personal attacks, would expect nothing less 🙏🏻 wish you the best
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
Thanks
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You’re welcome!
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Key-Track-1462@reddit
Angry bull dike
MsMo999@reddit
Do you always just read out partial info? But thanks because that quote you put made everything that day OK👌🏼
zrich8@reddit
Didn’t say any of it was ok. Just stated a fact.
Superb_Buffalo_2497@reddit
What do you think bro, these clowns know how to use google?
MsMo999@reddit
Yes one did and one civilian. Even Fox News reported that info.
SnooDonkeys182@reddit
I mean that’s literally what he said he’d do?
MattyBTraps42069@reddit
It’s dramatic? It’s already happening bro. Women’s rights are literally being stripped away. But yeah way more dramatic than January 6th.
muffledvoice@reddit
Dramatic? These are all things that Trump said he would do.
The greater concern is what he will do that he doesn’t tell us about.
ChandlerOG@reddit
People are acting like the world is ending and trump will get everything accomplished that he has stated. MSM has scared a lot of people
Few-Tradition-5741@reddit
The ignorant calling others dramatic is meaningless.
IllNeighborhood5714@reddit
Y’all criticize Harris because of how she laughs meanwhile Trump is a walking dumpster fire.
DemSumBigAssRidges@reddit
He literally wanted to shoot protesters the last time he was president. None of the people who prevented that are there anymore.
towns0210@reddit
Says the people that stormed the capitol…. But yeah we’re the dramatic ones.
Asklepios@reddit
All of these things have been said out loud by conservatives. Why is it dramatic?
TimeCarry6@reddit
Trump himself said that he would become a dictator on his first day in office. You good with that? I’m not.
I also suppose that you agree with Peter Thiel and Elon Musk’s vision of a post-democracy America? You are comfortable with your leaders providing you with fewer rights, freedoms, and protections? I’m not.
If that makes me dramatic, so be it. I’ll take dramatic over ignorant any day.
RevolutionaryFuel547@reddit
this is why ya'll lost, the fear mongering is helping no one
RevolutionaryFuel547@reddit
also did any of this shit change while biden was in office? lol no.. so what makes you think it would have changed if she won??
fbc546@reddit
We now now it’s a fact that the majority of people don’t believe this nonsense.
CorbinDalla5@reddit
Seriously that must be a child
Alexkono@reddit
Seriously this site loves ingesting their fear porn. Tough to tell if they’re actual adults with actual jobs.
CommanderSquirt@reddit
Fear porn is the propaganda tool of Republicans.
kleinekitty@reddit
I try not to make fun of them too much in my head because it’s not their fault they’ve been genuinely brainwashed. They just think they’re being good people lol
Notmainlel@reddit
Me when I lie:
Ok-Client-9457@reddit
Too bad women don’t vote apparently
unforunate_soul@reddit
Remind me! 1421 days
Superb_Buffalo_2497@reddit
If you seriously believe this you need therapy for paranoia
ResponsibleForm2732@reddit
Women will lose rights over the babies body. We will likely be less involved in wars with anybody. Medicaid/Medicare/Disability/Social Security were failed and failing already and you can’t kill something that’s already dead. Literally the dems are the only ones who use violence and call it protest. The military will likely not be used but illegal activities won’t be tolerated. Peaceful protest will be protected. Dont burn cars and break into businesses and you will be fine. People are literally dying on the streets from drug overdoses in every liberal ran city in the country. People will thrive under an economy that allows people to grow a business.
DrPepperEnthusiast02@reddit
Yall are so dramatic lol it's crazy that yall think we're gonna starve and die.
I thought i was gonna starve and die under Bidens term bc I could barely afford food. Imagine how much more expensive it would be if harris took office instead.
With Trump in office, prices will go down hopefully or atleast stop going up and he will heal this country that biden broke and ruined.
Fallenjace@reddit
Ahhh, you think the president controls grocery prices lol. Gotcha.
Yeah I'm sure the massive tariffs he plans on placing on goods will definitely make prices go down. Cause that's totally how it works.
And sure, gutting social security which people need to buy those groceries won't lead to any hungry bellies. Very smert of you.
DrPepperEnthusiast02@reddit
Ahh yes ofc, the president doesn't have any effect on the economy whatsoever. My fault. So it's definitely not bidens fault that the prices for literally everything have been increased substantially, silly me.
Fallenjace@reddit
I'd try and explain economics to you, but you don't seem to grasp anything but a Dr. Pepper. Boom! Also good drink, not shitting on soda -- I could use a couple right now.
Fuck you, now I'm craving Dr. Pepper.
DrPepperEnthusiast02@reddit
Yeah that's what you get, now go pay ten fuckin dollars for a 12 pack.
varglegion@reddit
This isn't what happened the first time he was president. Good God you leftists are never happy
BayouGal@reddit
They’ll do away with benefits for veterans, too. They plan to gut the VA.
squirrelsridewheels@reddit
They said this the last two elections
IndigoSunsets@reddit
Two elections ago I didn’t have less control over what happens to my body than a corpse.
soonerfreak@reddit
Tbf if Harris had won that wasn't going to change in Texas either. Ending the filibuster was still a maybe for the party and they definitely weren't packing the Court.
Asklepios@reddit
Doesn't mean we should let it get worse... with that attitude nothing would ever get better.
soonerfreak@reddit
The point is the Dems ran a bad campgain and lost 15 million votes from 2020. Trump also lost 3 million votes. This was a party problem and part of that problem was having zero plans and running as "Republican but not Trump. "
Lord_K_Avatar@reddit
Just to be clear, Trump's party was massively under budget compared to Kamala's due to legal reasons regarding Trump amongst other reasons. They ran an amazing campaign, like it or not that's just a fact.
soonerfreak@reddit
Who did, Trump? I agree he did hammer the points that mattered over and over again even though we know he was lying. Harris did not in fact run a good campgain.
Lord_K_Avatar@reddit
Yeah, I acknowledge he did lie quite a bit (understatement).
Harris just wasn't confident enough.
DKDanny@reddit
Remember when we all had to wear masks and didn’t have a choice?
Was it to protect lives that were not their own?
IndigoSunsets@reddit
Your life and others. Do you also hate that people who make your food are required to wash their hands?
Are you one of those people that in a fire would choose the petri plate with 8 embryos over the one infant?
DKDanny@reddit
Are you the type of person that will mortgage everything else about your life on the off of the statistically unlikely chance that you need to get an abortion for reasons beyond your control?
It’s going to be ok. I promise.
IndigoSunsets@reddit
It’s not just abortion. It the whole attitude that women should be second class citizens. The people that said women’s votes should count less are in charge now. The people that feel entitled to women’s bodies are now in charge. “Grab them by the pussy” Trump, a very close friend of Jeffery Epstein, was found liable for sexual assault and is still back in charge. Trump, the oldest person to take office, is unlikely to live through the end of his term, and then we’ll have Vance, who also doesn’t believe in the rights of women, in charge.
The Christian nationalists will happily remake society in their twisted version of Christianity. I don’t want Christianity, especially their Christianity, influencing my child.
Plus, you’ve obviously never been pregnant if you’re so flippant about abortion as healthcare.
Express-Following282@reddit
Guess u need to leave this country and move on. You’ll b sooo much better if u do…please, have a safe trip!! While my father, my brother n myself joined this country’s wonderful military to protect what we have, but yet u want ‘aliens’ coming in and doing what they’re doing?? W/diseases, uneducated criminals and won’t b educated here, cause they’ve been told they can have everything free of charge….hmmm who said that??? The Big BLUE???
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IndigoSunsets@reddit
Yes. My veteran husband and I would like to leave.
Which branch were/are you in? Do you anticipate needing VA care in the future? They want to privatize the VA as a “cost savings,” but it will just make it worse. How did you feel about how he disrespects the gold star families and calls the dead “losers and suckers”? Preferred military members who weren’t POWs? Do you like that he decided to do a campaign event at Arlington? Are you in favor of his desire to have soldiers shoot protesters in the legs? Does it bother you at all that he is a draft dodger? He’s happy for your vote, but won’t do anything to help you when you come home. Project 2025 calls for reducing the amount paid in VA disability by denying veterans claims of service related injuries and conditions at a higher rate, trying to cut the payments to those that receive it now.
I’m just surprised how many active duty service members and veterans can see all of that and want him to be their boss.
DKDanny@reddit
Never pregnant but I was a fetus once. A complicated pregnancy for my mother as was my younger brother. She gave birth to us and if she decided to go the other route we would not be here. As a former fetus I do think on this.
IndigoSunsets@reddit
My mother had miscarriages between me and my siblings. Should she have had to risk death because of the dying fetus? Women are dying right here in Texas because the known treatments that would have prevented their death are not legally accessible.
Pregnancy is a lot. A lot of things can go wrong. Why does the life of the woman not matter?
DKDanny@reddit
It does matter. Both lives matter.
Sounds like our relative experiences shaped our views on the topic. The fact is though part of this system of governance is that both of us have an equal say in how things are and our level of experience is irrelevant.
Is that fair or unfair? If for example I, a coast guard, who has no knowledge of the public school system is casting a vote to determine the outcome of public school funding and you, a public school teacher that never served is voting on military funding initiatives, one opinion would be more educated than the other on one issue, less educated on the other but both our votes tally the same.
Express-Following282@reddit
Nice!
DedaraCS@reddit
You're arguing with someone who can't comprehend that abortions are life saving medical procedures for women.
They care more about their "morals" of saving what they see as babies than they do about the actual living person that has to suffer and die for their moral high horse.
DKDanny if you're reading this, maybe get your head out of your ass and see that abortions are medically necessary to save the lives of women nation-wide.
The vast majority of Americans who receive abortion care do it because they will literally die or suffer unrepairable damage to their bodies.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
More than anything, it is a huge step towards a further loss of personal freedoms. If something this big can be taken away from us, from Americans, what's next? I fear there may be no limits. This loss in itself is of course horrible, but I'm terrified that this is seemingly "the warning shot".
Upbeat-Sky-4771@reddit
Did you have less control from 2016-2020?
faeriechyld@reddit
And since Roe was overturned, pregnant women have been dying from preventable causes bc doctors are too scared to touch them for fear of losing their license and going to jail.
Or is that just drama?
ASignificantPen@reddit
That wasn’t going to change if Harris won.
Diligent_Advisor_128@reddit
Source? Unbiased ones please.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, and Josseli Barnica are a few names of recent deaths caused by the overturn of Roe V Wade. These women deserve to be here today.
Eastern-Green-2962@reddit
Nah they should have kept it in their pants
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
Damn didn't expect someone to actually do research did you?
Diligent_Advisor_128@reddit
Sorry I’ve been busy partying I’ll be back to debunk these and argue how other factors played a role in these young ladies deaths not just the abolishment of roe. v. wade. Which I feel played a very small role if at all. Gimme about four years!
faeriechyld@reddit
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/
https://sph.tulane.edu/study-finds-higher-maternal-mortality-rates-states-more-abortion-restrictions
Express-Following282@reddit
Here we go…fact ck please. From a reliable source…NEWSMAX per se….not ‘politically aligned’ please
aeon_son@reddit
Are you saying NEWSMAX isn’t politically aligned?
SpiritofFtw@reddit
People have been starving and dying under the tyranny of Biden. Look at the streets. It’s a nightmare in this nation!
/s
Rustymarble@reddit
Two elections ago, he didn't have the house, senate, and supreme court to back him. He didn't have a playbook written down for him to follow. HE is only the figurehead for people who want to rule.
foppishmanabouttown@reddit
Hey political genius, he had the Senate , House and Supreme Court in 2016.
ChloeDrew557@reddit
And didn’t know what to do with it, surrounded by guardrails. He learned, and won’t have people to steer him away from his worst impulses.
foppishmanabouttown@reddit
This might be true, but why lie and say he didn’t have the Senate, House and a conservative Court?
ChloeDrew557@reddit
I think the nation as a whole has a serious short term memory problem. Blame it on COVID. Also, there’s a big demographic of people on Reddit who were children eight years ago. They don’t even remember what it was really like.
foppishmanabouttown@reddit
Agreed.
foppishmanabouttown@reddit
Agreed
Alexkono@reddit
Yep. The world, surprisingly, didn’t end.
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
women lost rights. lives have been lost and others ruined because of it.
Alexkono@reddit
hyperbole
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
troll
Suitable-Ad8996@reddit
Woman here, just so you’re aware, roe v wade got overturned during the Biden/Harris administration in 2021. that means they had 3 years to revert back to how it was. Trump just wants to leave the decision up to the state. That means, if you live in a state that declares laws abasing abortion, then you’re out of luck, but you also have every option and opportunity to move elsewhere.
please do your research a bit more before spreading propaganda.
StockAdvanced2644@reddit
THE SKY IS FALLING
xx11xx01@reddit
Properly brainwashed
JohnnyAppleseedsNut@reddit
Lmao, get a grip.
Mammoth-Appeal1286@reddit
Yeah drama queen, none of those things will happen
Dabairn@reddit
And fetus’ everywhere are gaining rights over THEIR bodies!
LevelAd3311@reddit
"we'll likely help Russia win it's war"
I just, can't 🤦🏽♂️
For the past decade (as in 10 years, before the start of trumps 1st stint in office) the CIA has been using Ukraine as a base to carry out operations to undermine Russia. Trump was fine with this btw. The MSM knew of this and still sold it to you as an unprovoked attack by Russia.
This country is full of a bunch of useful idiots, truly clueless about what's really going on.
madmos@reddit
Please tell me this is satire...
Do people really believe stuff like this? Man the MSM really has done so much damage to our populace if that is the case.
NamTokMoo222@reddit
The good news is that people that are this insane are a very small minority, as much as it would seem otherwise on the internet.
The election proved that...yet again. In a completely humiliating way.
People on here were absolutely sure Kamala was going to win by a landslide. Talking about "Red Mirage" the entire time, up until they slowly started to clear out like the Harris rally.
You know who was completely shell shocked and flabbergasted by what happened last night? The Kamala administration. She still hasn't spoken because they don't know what the fuck to say.
"We're Out of Touch with Reality" should be the Democrats' slogan from here on our, starting on Reddit.
datdouche@reddit
This just made me so hype
RandyChampagne@reddit
Bring back mental institutions
Suitable_Cycle4216@reddit
It’s literally insane, I agree. I also think it’s weird they believe the majority thinks this way and yet Trump won the majority vote so most people do not in fact think this way.
MSHinerb@reddit
People really do. It’s wild.
RioRozayy@reddit
Women are not going to lose rights abortion is state by state and that would take a nationwide ban
SneksOToole@reddit
With a Republican mandate, you’re insane if you think they wont try and pass a Federal abortion ban
blonderaider21@reddit
An abortion isn’t a right
SneksOToole@reddit
Cool, I never said it was. I still think it’s better to have legal abortions for the first trimester unilaterally instead of having women dying because they have to carry a kid that wont make it to term. Lifesaving abortions shouldn’t be illegal.
blonderaider21@reddit
Majority of abortions aren’t for life-saving measures.
SneksOToole@reddit
Doesn’t matter if it’s the majority, we have decided it’s ok to let women in Texas die even if there’s no chance of carrying to term, or hell even in miscarriages: https://people.com/texas-teen-suffering-miscarriage-dies-due-to-abortion-ban-8738512
These people aren’t having abortions as birth control. Why should they suffer? Im for keeping abortion illegal in the third trimester outside of special lifesaving circumstances. Late term abortions for funzies aren’t happening to begin with. If we want to reckon with states deciding what that law is, ok, but it’s ridiculous to assume the reality we have now is a pro life one.
blonderaider21@reddit
No one has “decided” it’s “okay to let women in Texas die.”
RioRozayy@reddit
Nothing is mandated though. If that were the case it would have been a nationwide ban years ago. Not saying it can’t happen, but I doubt they would make that decision in the next 4 years
SneksOToole@reddit
Mandate means one party gets the Senate, House and Presidency. This appears to be a Republican mandate. The same happened in 2016 and they did try and repeal the ACA. Roe v Wade and PP v Casey was still the law so a ban on abortion would have been unconstitutional; now it’s up to the Federal gov’t to decide.
RioRozayy@reddit
It hasn’t got to that point though. Nor has it passed. It’s been discussed for years. It’s an extreme issue
ThatGuy972@reddit
You should try watching the news and you know like, pay attention.
SneksOToole@reddit
Hey, I hope Im wrong. I hope you get your I told you so.
NonlocalA@reddit
Looks like the house and Senate will be Republican controlled, too. The filibuster is the only thing holding one back, and the Senate could just reject all norms and change the rules to force a vote. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
RioRozayy@reddit
I doubt it would happen. It would have happened awhile ago if that were the case. It’s an extreme issue that has been talked over time after time
acrowxo@reddit
you're a man😂😂😂😂
Bootstrap1029@reddit
and yet, why didn't any of this happen during his last term? you people really do believe everything "The View" say don't you
SeinfeldSavant@reddit
Didn't Obama use the military against protesters? Why wasn't that a big deal for the Dems then?
Willecatchum@reddit
Where do you get your details from? He’s better than the last four messed up years that Sleepy Joe delivered
NamTokMoo222@reddit
Lol Jesus
blonderaider21@reddit
We haven’t lost any rights whatsoever over our bodies.
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
less than a week ago, an 18 year old girl died in agony because a dead fetus was rotting inside of her and doctors refused to remove it for fear of violating texas abortion laws. she’s not the first or last.
blonderaider21@reddit
I repeat, we haven’t lost any rights.
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
abortion is a right. it is no longer federally protected as of the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022. thus, women in many states have lost that right.
blonderaider21@reddit
Let’s go over what “civil rights” are…
The right to vote, the right to a fair trial, the right to government services, the right to a public education, the right to a public education, the right to use public facilities, freedom of religion, the right to privacy, freedom to buy a house or get a job without discrimination based on our race, color, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity), disability, religion, familial status, national origin, and citizenship status, freedom of thought, freedom from slavery, freedom from torture, freedom from false imprisonment…
I don’t see sucking a fetus out of your body listed anywhere as a “right.”
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
i’m not playing this game with you. women’s reproductive rights include the right to decide whether to get and/or remain pregnant. women no longer have that right in many states, and women have suffered and will continue to suffer for it.
blonderaider21@reddit
If you don’t want to get pregnant, abstain from sex or use contraceptives.
Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit
are you stupid? less than a week ago, an 18 year old girl died in agony because a dead fetus was rotting inside of her and doctors refused to remove it for fear of violating texas abortion laws.
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Huntergio23@reddit
You’re in favor of the meat grinder that is war? Despicable take tbh
Beginning-Ask5005@reddit
Lmao Trump already serves as president and people didn’t starve and died wtf
bela_the_horse@reddit
Did you sleep through Covid??
Massive-Frosting-722@reddit
So Covid was Trumps fault? lol. What about the rest of the world’s casualties from Covid.Also his fault?
bela_the_horse@reddit
So to answer my question, yes, you apparently slept through Covid because while he didn’t cause the disease, his failure to act quickly to stop the spread of the virus was an embarrassment that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans. His plan was to ignore it and it’ll go away.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Trump shut down border entries from China and you all called him racist and xenophobic for it. Now you claim he didn’t do enough…..ironic.
It has been admitted the masking and social distancing made no impact. They were just used to see how far the sheep would obey. The worst thing Trump did during covid was warp speed and pushing out the clot shots.
chelseacalcio1905@reddit
you're not very bright. he tried to refuse flights from in from certain countries but he was called racist. turns out one of those countries is where covid originated from. imagine that.
noncongruent@reddit
Over 1.2M people died of COVID in America, and that's just the known deaths.
Massive-Frosting-722@reddit
The entire world had mass casualties from Covid. Not just America. The lockdowns did nothing and dam near crippled the world economy
Walter_Padick@reddit
Wait and see how the economy is in two years
Massive-Frosting-722@reddit
I will. I’m certain it’ll be amazing
srw9320@reddit
Sounds like the plot of a horror movie.
Bmmick@reddit
I heard the same fear mongering when he first got elected
Spinning4Sanity@reddit
Even coming for Medicare/Social Security?
Helbig312@reddit
More so no plan to save them instead of actively attack them. But end result is the same of them being gone in less than a decade.
Spinning4Sanity@reddit
Gotcha. Well, damn. :/
greg_jenningz@reddit
For the record, Medicare Advantage flourished under Trump. Biden has limited Medicare these past 4 years. I’m thrilled he’s out because they will doing a poor job with this sector. No growth and less revenue to the programs. Trump will encourage and push growth in privatized plans. More innovation and better health will come out of this.
TheGringoOutlaw@reddit
despite Trump winning the presidency, some states did vote for abortion rights.
wrknlrk@reddit
Oh no the sky is falling
badsird@reddit
Cope and seethe. Reject the will of the people all you want but this is democracy. And the American people have wholeheartedly rejected the liberal regime. Cope and seethe.
HankP@reddit
Russian shill
xanoran84@reddit
Lol every time I see someone write "cope and seethe" like this, I just hear this rushing hiss and can envision a pale, eyeless humanoid with a lampray mouth crawling out of a dark, scummy hole in the ground. Creepy motherfucker.
blonderaider21@reddit
Very dramatic and weird of you.
xanoran84@reddit
Is it? I only described a pretty generic cave dwelling amphibian and a whooshing sound, so probably not too far off from what you'd look like given a few more years in your mom's basement, or what one would hear if they put your skull up to their ear like a seashell.
blonderaider21@reddit
More hyperbole. This is why no one can take you guys seriously and the Republican candidates swept the country.
badsird@reddit
“Everyone that disagrees with me must be a Russian shill” I pity you and your worldview. Truly. Introspection be damned.
blonderaider21@reddit
Yawn. Your hyperbolic buzzwords are so tired. And don’t work. Find a new gig.
blonderaider21@reddit
I’m loving it! They think their downvotes to our comments mean something lol
J-Thong@reddit
I’m with you lmao they’re coping hard lmaoooooo
Gaybuttchug@reddit
Hahahaha it’s great to see
69HogDaddy69@reddit
Unfortunate killing babies isn’t as popular of. Platform as they thought
lemoncookei@reddit
most people in this country support abortion. you can go look at the statistics yourself, moron
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69HogDaddy69@reddit
Good think Trumps court left it up to the states and baby killing isn’t a thing here in the great state of Texas.
Hofbrau-haus@reddit
So uneducated…smh
Diligent_Advisor_128@reddit
Go outside and stop watching msnbc please!
pepsiblast08@reddit
So the world will continue to be shitty like it has been.
not-actual69_@reddit
lol you really need to get off this app man. It’s so pathetic that the majority of this echo chamber called Reddit think the country will be some hell hole. Nothing will happen.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Lol comes back in four years and realizes that nothing has changed except for the prices at the grocery store going down a little bit and our national debt decreases after we stop giving other countries trillions of dollars
Historical_Dentonian@reddit
But Trump and Republicans haven’t reduced either my 50+ years.
chayatoure@reddit
Name one policy that will reduce the price of groceries
chayatoure@reddit
This is why he won, idiots are dumb enough to believe him.
chayatoure@reddit
You can’t be so dumb as to believe he’ll magically decrease food prices, or get us out of debt by cutting taxes on the rich.
call_me_Kote@reddit
Have you read his plan? The deficit is going up big guy
Spacepunch33@reddit
His deportation plan would put U.S. 7 billion in debt but ok
HarrisNGH@reddit
Pffffftttttt lmaooo, is this your new fantasy novel your writing? Where can I expect to purchase a copy?
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
How will women lose rights over their bodies? He has come out and said he will change nothing and it’s up to the states. 10 states had reproductive rights on their ballots.
lemoncookei@reddit
and who created the conditions where abortions rights would no longer be protected federally?
Alexkono@reddit
Lol
ChunkyChangon@reddit
LMAO
ClassyPants17@reddit
Babies with separate blood types as the mom are not “their mothers bodies” 😁
can_of-soup@reddit
Alright bro calm down. He was president for 4 years already and it was a nice time in America.
Fluffy-Suit9207@reddit
Lmao chill out, youll be fine dude
Kollekt2@reddit
Bit of an overreaction don’t ya think?
madster40@reddit
It's literally what he promised.
Kollekt2@reddit
My comment is mostly in regard to people will starve and die. It’s not like he’s Mao🤣
Kollekt2@reddit
I have no interest in arguing with you guys though. Hope you have a fantastic day
Nerf_Lag@reddit
Yeah, you're out of touch and an idiot, huh? Or not American?
TeaKingMac@reddit
!RemindMe 3 years "does shit suck?"
J-Thong@reddit
They’re coping hard lmao going to enjoy all the great contents the next four years lmao
yeluapyeroc@reddit
RemindMe! 4 years
ThatGuy972@reddit
Lol ok. Now lets get you back tonyour nursing home. Your projecting again
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
Any checks he had last term are gone now, he has complete control over the Supreme Court, so it’ll be wild?
Adddicus@reddit
Don't forget Complete Immunity for Official Acts.
voodoobunny999@reddit
And he’ll preface everything he says with, “As President…”, and claim that makes it an official act, just like he’d always have lawyers like Michael Cohen or John Eastman in on his shenanigans (read crimes) so that he could claim attorney-client privilege if the lawyer ever testified against him. Also, in the same way he claimed that he could declassify something just by thinking about declassifying it.
I look forward to the meaning of “Official Acts” being stretched and massaged and sliced and diced until it has no meaning.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
"As president, I am officially repealing the two 4 year term limit for presidency."
dirtymikehonch0@reddit
There is a constitution that protects against that
radjinwolf@reddit
Trump: “I decree by executive action that presidents may serve unlimited terms.”
Democrats: “You can’t do that. The constitution doesn’t allow it.”
SCOTUS: “We’ll allow it.”
Labios_Rotos77@reddit
You haven't been paying attention if you think Trump cares about the constitution.
LP99@reddit
lol
Thick-Sentence-9384@reddit
Not to mention a mass pardon for Jan 6 insurgents.
voodoobunny999@reddit
Yes, that, too. So much awful.
IllNeighborhood5714@reddit
And don’t forget a massive surveillance network that is already in place for him to utilize.
ResponsibleForm2732@reddit
Wildly better I hope
GroundedTexan@reddit
There was no change to presidential immunity. Let me break it down for you. Your job is to make cheeseburgers. A new manager comes in and doesn’t like you so they fire you for making cheeseburgers. The supreme court’s ruling says you can’t be fired for doing your job, making cheeseburgers. So the new manager is in the wrong. Now, you sit on your phone for an hour, not your job, and yes you can be fired.
miiintyyyy@reddit
That’s not how the ruling works. This ruling makes it so the person flipping cheeseburger can now do anything they want and the only person who says whether or not that’s ok is their other coworker.
ClassyPants17@reddit
As if adding court justices wasnt a normal functioning part of the presidents duties…you realize Kamala and Biden wanted to add more justices just to get around the fact that Trump simply had good timing and was able to appoint 3 justices.
Marvkid27@reddit
You mean like when the senate blocked obama from replacing scalia? You have to own the senate and the white house now which the gop has done
LeadSufficient2130@reddit
They ignore that because that one was good for them
GroundedTexan@reddit
No, y’all seem to think he even stood a chance to get voted in. The republicans wouldn’t have voted to appoint him, and the speaker knew this. No, reason to waste time on a vote. In retrospect looks we they should have so this talking point would die.
LeadSufficient2130@reddit
It’s not a talking point. It was a ridiculous break from tradition so that the republicans could hold onto more power. It’s the only thing they care about. But continue your applause as they destroy the middle class and drive this country further into the shitter we’ll be the ones sitting back saying “we told you so”
69HogDaddy69@reddit
You say that like it’s a bad thing
blonderaider21@reddit
So dramatic.
nugurimt@reddit
Presidency + Senate + House + Court. Trump for the next 2 years atleast can literally do anything.
chronicdemonic@reddit
Yep
KC5SDY@reddit
The sun will come up in the morning as it always does and will continue to do so for a very long time.
emilyklinnee@reddit
For a man, this seems so simple to say, doesn’t it? Women are dying because doctors cannot/will not perform life saving care in fear of being arrested. For you, the sun will rise. You people disgust me.
metrorhymes@reddit
Father of a trans kid here. The fear he had yesterday is 100x worse today and I'm absolutely heartbroken for him.
ManagerSouthern687@reddit
You failed your child a long time ago.
miiintyyyy@reddit
Please consider making plans to leave if you can.
adone659@reddit
Theres always Mexico
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
Exactly what I was thinking
col3man17@reddit
I didn't want trump to win, but let's do remember he was already in office for 4 years. Time will continue on.
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
And millions died on his watch. Women are dying at higher rates now thanks to the Christian Taliban. Nothing good will come under his watch. Rich get richer and poor and sick will die.
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
Christian Taliban???? I’m a 30 year retired Army Officer and a Christian and I’ve seen Taliban up close? Have you?
miiintyyyy@reddit
Things aren’t the same this time around. He has the senate and the judicial branch which has already granted him immunity for official acts and as long as the majority conservative Supreme Court decides whatever he did is an official act, he’s good. Votes are still being counted for the house, but if it goes red, there won’t be any guard rails to hold back what’s coming.
Time will not continue on for marginalized communities and those he has no interest in.
Longjumping-Wedding3@reddit
I shouldn't even have to consider this.. this in the United States.
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
America is dead. Look at who people support.
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
Agreed. Only the poor and stupid will remain. The scientists, doctors, the intelligent and wealthy will flee. Don't blame em.
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
Yep. I'm probably leaving before it gets too bad. I'm grateful that I'm not poor and stupid
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
You aren't alone. Destinations seem to be Canada and Europe. These places are going to be amazing with the influx of the best of us. Wishing you peace and joy.
Longjumping-Wedding3@reddit
I wish I could say you're wrong man..
Different_Lake_4578@reddit
Ditto, cried myself to sleep 😢
Bootstrap1029@reddit
your kid made it just fine during Trumps first term. do believe all the fear mongering the news spewed out
metrorhymes@reddit
My kid was 8 years old when Trump's first term started. Very different to be 17 with a target on your back.
Adventurous_Click178@reddit
I’m so sorry—I don’t know what else to say except that you and your child are supported by so many (even if, unfortunately, not by the majority, or the government.) We are out here and we stand with you.
I have a trans student this year. She is a precious, joyful light in our classroom. I hope her light continues to shine bright and is never dimmed by hate.
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
Keep Yourself Safe
Sea_Blackberry_1075@reddit
I'm so sad for these children, this is beyond a travesty. Anyone remotely marginalized is a target - it's honestly the sickest thing. The only thing that comes to mind is a revolution... We won't have free elections moving forward- I'm fairly certain of that. Those day are gone... Our backs are against the wall. Ideas?
RealisticLength8888@reddit
If it makes you feel better wait till Jan.
BoostedRoshi@reddit
Yeah please leave. 😆
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
Keep Yourself Safe
BoostedRoshi@reddit
Thankfully with the 2A, I keep myself very safe.
Limp_Honey_4540@reddit
That's the spirit. Use that 2A and KeepYourselfSafe! 😁
metrorhymes@reddit
Not a shred of empathy among you
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BoostedRoshi@reddit
Nope, not for actual fascists that called me all kinds of bs names.
Blah-B7ah_Bloop@reddit
Im heartbroken for him today too. I’m so sorry.
Tytymom1@reddit
My heart is so broken for these kids (and adults) who literally fear for their lives. Being queer in the 70s wasn’t easy but I “passed”. Big hugs to your family.
Luckyjulydouble07@reddit
Why is your son so scared? Because he can’t have harmful surgeries at an early age that could put their health at risk long term? Chill. LGBTQ+ rights will be fine. It’s not as bad as the mass media is making you believe. Maybe homeschool if you’re worried about public school or move to a blue state if you’re that distraught about it.
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Asklepios@reddit
Thomas literally said in a brief that LGBTQ+ rights are next on his chopping block.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/thomas-constitutional-rights-00042256
metrorhymes@reddit
Not a shred of empathy among them
Upbeat-Sheepherder41@reddit
*it
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Subject_Gur1331@reddit
But that’s the state of Texas. Women can go get their abortions in CO, AR, NM. All the states surrounding us. There are no gestational limits in NM, so women who don’t need it for medical reasons can go abort their babies anyway at 39 weeks there.
Asklepios@reddit
When you're in crisis and about to bleed out you can't just hop in the car and drive to AR. So dense
Subject_Gur1331@reddit
And clearly you are dense enough yourself to have failed to read Texas Health & Safety code 171.008, section 171.205 that specifically makes exceptions for medical emergencies. And I quote: “sections 171.203 and 171.204 DO NOT APPLY if a physician believes a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance with this sub chapter” (A. General Provisions [Abortion]).
Asklepios@reddit
I have talked to ER/OBGYN doctors that I know. They have said if there's a heartbeat they can't do anything besides antibiotics
Subject_Gur1331@reddit
Then they aren’t reading the law fully. Please let your ER/OBGYN docs know about the exception. The fetal heart beat can be present under section 171.205 as long as it is a medical emergency for the mother. It is clear in the law.
Asklepios@reddit
Definition of medical emergency isn't clear. No hospital or doctor is going to take a risk on a "it should be interpreted this way but if the court doesn't see it my way I go to jail"
Subject_Gur1331@reddit
Sect. 171.002(3) defines exactly what a medical emergency is, and it is broad enough to cover life threatening emergencies.
Did you even read it?? It says so right there. 🤦🏾♀️
Dabairn@reddit
This is just simply untrue. Texas’ abortion ban specifically allow for exceptions for medical emergencies. Where do you people get your information?
noncongruent@reddit
Texas abortion bans are vaguely written and attempts to add specific criteria for "approved" abortions have been blocked. Because there are no specific lists of criteria there's no way for any doctor to know for sure whether or not any particular scenario qualifies for performing abortion with absolutely no legal risk. When a doctor is given the choice of performing a procedure that could risk them spending years or decades in prison and fined into financial extinction, not to mention losing the medical license they spent decades getting, the choice is pretty straightforward. Wait until the very last moment, way past the point where pure medical jurisprudence would say was proper, even though that dramatically increases the risk of death. This is what's been happening with the surge of deaths lately.
The Texas law was specifically written vaguely to achieve this exact outcome.
The proper fix would be to have doctors write new laws that define when an abortion should be done in the best interests of the patient. Instead of waiting until the fetal heartbeat stops, instead allow the abortion when the water breaks prematurely, for example. If it's an ectopic then write into the law guarantees against prosecution for aborting those.
LDMdeb@reddit
That's not Trump's fault. These laws are up to each and every individual state. That's the decision of the Supreme Court.
RedGecko18@reddit
Did you not see how many women voted for Trump? They obviously want this too. The voting numbers speak for themselves.
Express-Following282@reddit
Again…do u not ‘listen’? Trump wants it left up to the state!! Abortions r needed in many instances!! Due to many diff scenarios!! Up to the STATES ppl!! Quit pointing fingers @ folks u apparently kno nuthin about….at least that’s what I’m getting from your mouth @ this time….
noncongruent@reddit
At one point it was left up to the states to determine if they wanted to keep slavery or not. State's rights, they said. Even today there are conservatives that want to return the right to keep slaves to the states. The Civil Rights act was another time the federal government had to step in because states wanted the rights to choose for themselves if they wanted to make discrimination and segregation the way of their state.
Express-Following282@reddit
Thanks
RedGecko18@reddit
I know exactly what the supreme court decision means, I also know what it means for women around the country, and they're going to have a hard time. I didn't vote for Trump, but obviously plenty of women did, so that means that they are ok with his policy choices, his judge appointments, and Senate representation. All I'm saying is that people are complaining about the decision not affecting men (which it doesn't) and I'm saying that the women ALSO voted for it.
Recent_Career9770@reddit
I think the sun still comes up for minorities…
StepfordInTexas@reddit
That’s medical malpractice not abortion laws.
gregtime92@reddit
The feeling is mutual bud
Possumcox@reddit
Abortion was not made illegal. Contrary to the lefts constant rhetoric. The power was returned to the states, as the Constitution mandates. If you want to murder your baby, go to a state that allows it.
shhbestill@reddit
And if the baby died inside the mom but her body didn’t naturally start the labor process to expel it, what then?
Luckyjulydouble07@reddit
If the mother’s life is at risk they will give the woman the care they need to save their life. You’re misinformed and this is another lie being spread around by mass media that’s bought and paid for by Democratic PACs. Don’t let yourself be fooled so much and do your research. Who owns the major networks and look up their PAC contributions. #1 is Harris and DNC. They tried to buy votes through manipulation (comedians, Hollywood, all major news networks are all complicit. They lose money if republicans win). Trump/Vance policies keep in mind the life of the mother. Vance has said a blanket abortion ban is not the answer. How many abortions do you think Trump himself has paid for? He’s not against them. Chillllllllll. Or like someone said, if you’re that worried about it, move to a blue state.
Odd-Bobcat-9964@reddit
Eat a bag of weiners
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
Sun is a constant (for now), what people live through underneath it is a wide spectrum based on location, gender, ethnicity, class, age, religion, country, family and so much more. Sun coming up can be a sign of hope, continuity, or despair. Let’s not forget our personal current circumstance is just chance.
SneksOToole@reddit
Democracy is not the norm of human history, it’s by far the exception. We have to work together to keep it alive.
psellers237@reddit
A little late, my man
SneksOToole@reddit
It might be, it might not be. It will be for sure if we give up protecting it now.
tdmutch@reddit
The true threat to democracy lost.
A candidate who was not voted for democratically, lost.
Its a joyous day!
Mullhousen@reddit
Not sure why you were downvoted.
SneksOToole@reddit
Democracy in government > democracy in party. The former is unconstitutional, the latter isn’t. The latter punishes the candidate; the former punishes the country. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
100dollascamma@reddit
If the democrats ran a primary maybe they would have known that Harris wasn’t that popular of a candidate… regardless of the legality it was a bad move to let Biden run without a true primary to begin with
SneksOToole@reddit
To let Biden run without a true primary? No- heMs the incumbent, if he wanted to run he ought to. That’s been the norm in all Presidential history, you don’t run primaries when a President seeks a second term. We are in agreement that Biden ought to have just not sought a second term to begin with, and then they could have a primary.
psellers237@reddit
It’s dead, my man. There are no viable defenses left. The supreme court, congress, there are no checks available. The opposition party is absolutely pathetic and deserves as much blame as just about anyone.
We had a chance to vote. And even then, it was going to be a fight had Trump lost and tried to game the courts. But we couldn’t even get that far. The American population is was too stupid to save themselves.
A corrupt and ignorant country is very obviously what the people want.
So act accordingly. Does no good to pretend otherwise.
SneksOToole@reddit
It’s not over until it’s over. I agree things are about as bad as they’ve been in a long time, but it can get worse and there’s hope we can pull through. You gain nothing by rolling over and giving up, you have to try. Otherwise you’re as bad as they are.
psellers237@reddit
You move. Leave the state, leave the country. You have no business telling anyone to stick around at what is obviously a losing “try-and-stop-the-bleeding” cause.
The uneducated fucks who voted for a felon deserve precisely what they’re going to get. The rest of us, if you have an education and work a good job, stop supporting these centers of corruption that our country’s red states are. Vote with your feet and get the fuck out of here.
SneksOToole@reddit
Bold of you to assume that what happens in America wont spell doom for others.
People have the right to do what they want and move where they want, and I have the right time to call them spineless cowards. This is my home and Im going to fight for it as much as I can. If the Ukrainians are willing to die for their home why should it be a privileged position to say we should fight for ours?
psellers237@reddit
Never said it wouldn’t. It definitely will change things globally, no doubt. This is a global win for corruption.
But in the short term, the next decade or two, it’ll be much worse in this country. Our allies are going to, to the extent they economically can, take steps to abandon us. Those steps will get bigger over time. We can no longer be relied on. As of today, 2016 was not an aberration – it’s who America is. And with even less guardrails on Trump this time, fucking hell, where we might be by 2028 is mind boggling.
Ukraine isn’t remotely comparable. Ukraine’s aggressor is external. America’s aggressor is internal. Sure would be nice if we could just shoot some missiles! No, we have to, from a minority position, reverse three decades of American cultural, educational, systemic decline. With no power or vehicle for doing so. And an abysmal track record fighting culture battles.
So, stay and fight! Rings awful hollow. And we’re a half-dozen comments in here, and you haven’t exactly articulated what this “fight” is. Let’s… knock even more doors….? Let’s… do even more voter drives…? Trump’s 200th disqualifying act will SURELY be the one that resonates with voters!!!
Fact is – a lot of people in this country are enjoying being ignorant and angry. Most of them, apparently.
SneksOToole@reddit
I don’t know the answer, but fleeing the country or being apathetic or doomer solves nothing. Like I said, I’ll stay and do whatever I need to. Im an educated straight white man, I feel like if anyone ought to stay to help whoever cant leave it’s someone who is like me. If we have to protest we can protest. If we have to talk to more people or show them the truth of the damage of Trump’s policies until we’re blue in the face, we’ll do that. Bare minimum, someone in this country needs to stand up for truth and basing ourselves in reality. Sorry, but it’s the kind of thing I think that’s worth fighting and living for, even if it’s all for nothing. We’re in this mess because people don’t want to take responsibility for their democracy. I refuse to be that kind of person.
psellers237@reddit
I would have posted your exact first paragraph in 2016 or 2018. Today? No, we’ve seen too much. This level of stupidity is what American society, in red states at least, wants.
I’m not leaving the country (yet) but I’m also not staying in a state where this level of insanity is not just culturally acceptable but popular
You got a life to live, and every institution supposed to protect against this kind of shit has failed us. Liberals who stay in Trump states are consenting that these policies, his/Cruz/Abbott’s rhetoric, is livable. No, thanks.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Ok have fun in california or NY and not for nothing but they both familys and businesses are moving to Texas like flys on shit so enjoy yourself
psellers237@reddit
Lol the glee you guys get out of being dumb as fuck is astounding. California or NY? What are you talking about? People talk about “liberal bubbles,” it’s like a script - you all say the exact same shit.
There is a day when being massively ignorant is going to catch up with you. But progressive culture is not the flaming bag of shit that conservative culture has become, we usually care about people and want good things for folks, so even then, we won’t dunk on you the way you chuds are gleefully telling yourselves you’re doing today.
That said, some delightful irony all over when that day comes.
SneksOToole@reddit
Im in a red state because I have to for school. Ive got 4.5 years of grad school to go. I dont consent to any of these policies and I’ll fight against them.
I see no good reason to give up. America has survived so much, there’s no reason to believe we can’t survive this. Again, burning it down and building something new is much harder than fixing what’s broken, even 4 years from now. Look at Germany. Not the most encouraging comparison, but it makes it all the more important that we fight and refuse to let them roll us over. It’s gonna get a hell of a lot worse, and we should be there for the people who have it the worst.
psellers237@reddit
Are you serious?
SneksOToole@reddit
Yes I am. We for sure wont if everyone rolls over like you are doing. It’s worth trying, so stop feeling sorry for yourself. Plenty of people in history have had it worse. Owe it to them to do your part.
Semper454@reddit
Haha sure, articulate what that “part” is and I’ll get right on it.
Ok_Conclusion7238@reddit
Talk a big game. You didn’t leave the first term you won’t leave this one.
psellers237@reddit
You are wrong on both counts.
Ok_Conclusion7238@reddit
Then why do you care? Obviously I can’t prove it but neither can you. If you left you can’t vote on anything so why care? Unless you have dual citizenship then in that care why keep it if you left? We don’t want people that run when it gets tough. And if you did renounce your citizenship then stay out of our politics.
psellers237@reddit
So then why are you even here and commenting?
Ok_Conclusion7238@reddit
Because I’m wondering why you’re commenting on our politics if you left? You’re the educated one you tell me.
psellers237@reddit
This is the dumbest conversation I’ve seen all day. No thank you.
Ok_Conclusion7238@reddit
I’m just asking questions. Questions that aren’t hard to answer for someone with a 5th grade education so it shouldn’t be hard for you to answer.
SneksOToole@reddit
Guys, guys. You’re both just awful people.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Yeah have that hope LMFAO that's going to get you real far oh and we are bad because we kicked your fucking ass by a landslide it was one of the worst beatings ever second only to Ronald Reagan the only thing that was bad was you running and didn't have a fucking clue what to do about anything
Significant-Pilot892@reddit
I'd say right on time. The past 4 years, Joe Biden was senile and our government was run lock, stock and barrel by an unelected and even unnamed cabal. It was a takeover of our democracy.
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Lmao cry me a river drama queen
Uprightsinner70@reddit
🤣
Possumcox@reddit
Oh no, we did work to keep our Republic alive. It worked perfectly.
Kensei501@reddit
Yeah tell the Roman’s under Augustus that one. It’s being repeated.
Possumcox@reddit
The Roman’s were extremely liberal. Rome needed to fall.
Kensei501@reddit
Ummmmmmm. Maybe until panem et circuses. Until then they were very conservative. Until they no longer exercised any kind of self restraint they were advancing.
psellers237@reddit
If you’re trolling, you are bad at it. This is way too doofusy to seem legitimate.
Possumcox@reddit
Orgies, gluttonous feasts for the rich, governmental overreach, constant wars and land grabs….not trolling, just stating facts. But anyway, enjoy the next 4+ years 😊😁
westex74@reddit
Literally NONE of that happened under the first Trump term.
Possumcox@reddit
I completely agree with you. Follow the thread
psellers237@reddit
No, you should say you’re trolling. It’s better than the alternative.
Ragnarok-9999@reddit
That what surprises me, how more than 200 years survived. May be at that we did not have billionaires at that time.
whooping_cushion@reddit
and to do that this country needs to survive. and thank goodness it will
SneksOToole@reddit
We don’t know that it wil
whooping_cushion@reddit
i was just high off the election results, but i trust trump in the oval office a lot more than harris.
SneksOToole@reddit
You have no good reason to, but I hope he doesn’t do the damage to democracy that I believe he will.
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
Bless your misguided heart
SneksOToole@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot Bless your heart
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CommonSensei-_@reddit
Democracy is what occurred. Trump won the popular vote by a significant margin.
He won the electoral college by a significant margin too.
SneksOToole@reddit
That's not what I'm saying. He did get democratically elected, I am in no way denying that for a second and I think Kamala Harris should certify the vote. What I'm worried about is if he'll undermine democracy in this term the way he did when he left office 4 years ago. Dismantling the press, going after his political opponents, wielding Presidential immunity, anything else that undermines free and fair elections going forward and the ability to make informed choices- that's what I worry about.
CommonSensei-_@reddit
I think we see things differently.
I do not believe he dismantled the press.
I do not think he will become a dictator. I do not think he was a dictator in the past.
I did not vote for the guy.
SneksOToole@reddit
He tried very hard to be: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
Admirable_Panda6626@reddit
We lost democracy on Nov. 5, 2024. That vial man, who ended his campaign by illustrating how to govern a blow job will destroy our nation. He will never leave the White House. How the fuck does someone attempt to violently overthrow Congress, causing death and injury to many, with no repercussions? God Save us!
HereForCarAdvice@reddit
How do you lost democracy if people using vote? He won both the electoral and popular, the people has spoken.
adreyyy@reddit
He got the same amount of votes as he did in 2020… actually less. People just didn’t show up for Kamala.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Your stupidhe got way more votes he got more woman votes , he got more black votes, he got more latino votes and won the popular election einstein lmao
adreyyy@reddit
He won the popular vote yes but he didn’t get the same amount of votes as he did in 2020. So lots of republicans that hate him moved somewhere else. And Kamala only got 66 million compared to Biden 81 million. But Trump only got 72 million compared to the 74 million in 2020. So he lost 2 million votes. Simple math.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
He diddnt have to beat bidens mark just kamalas and he beat her ass simple math
psellers237@reddit
Well, because he ran on an agenda and a record that was so anti-democracy, he more or less has precedent to strip it away.
So much self-reassurance today, I hope people spend at least as much time considering what might actually happen within the next four years and beyond.
Boring_Impress@reddit
Well clearly he cheated right? That’s how this works… complain about a rigged system for 4 years, and now get (s)elected under that fraud 😜
SneksOToole@reddit
I mean he did try and kill his own VP by sicking s violent mob after him, he’s said he’ll be dictator on day 1, and he plans on replacing everyone in the government with sycophants while also being able to test the new limits of the SC’s Presidential immunity ruling. We don’t know that democracy is dead yet, but it’s likely in critical condition.
burn469@reddit
He’s all talk. Non of that will happen. Project 2025 won’t happen. It’s not a movie. Everything will be fine.
noncongruent@reddit
If it does, what should your punishment be?
SneksOToole@reddit
People love to say that after voting for him- why the hell would you take that chance? Why do people think democracy is a given?
Kyosuke-D@reddit
Dude. Touch grass. You do not live in reality at all. Seriously, get a therapist.
Aries-79@reddit
This is the answer. It doesn’t matter politically it’s about what WE do to keep America a thriving country and what WE can do to better ourselves and help one another. People get so consumed by media that it drives them mad. We will have to work together no matter who ends up elected in order to maintain and progress our civilization as it scales. In this case the American people have decided that President Trump will be the best to lead us through the next four years. Which in my opinion was the best decision.
SneksOToole@reddit
It absolutely was not considering the myriad of ways he has tried and will probably try again to upend democracy. But I love this country and I’ll do my part to make it hurt just a bit less if I can.
Aries-79@reddit
Respectively, I do not understand anyone’s claims about upending democracy. I have not seen any indication that he did anything in his previous presidency that would be considered upending democracy. I believe it is media and media alone that has convinced and contributed to public opinion on this man as well as create mass hysteria around this opinion that they influenced people to believe. Some examples are censorship of his speech, calling him a white supremacist, comparing him to Hitler and so on. Media has been trying to smear him for nearly two decades and here we are once again the American people have nominated him for president.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Exactly someone with some sense thank you. So apperantly hitler is loved since he won the popular vote
SneksOToole@reddit
Hitler was pretty well loved when he became Chancellor actually. The guy even dodged jail time because the judge agreed with what he was saying.
SneksOToole@reddit
Respectfully, I don’t know if you’re at all aware of the false electors scheme around Jan 6th. Even the media doesn’t seem to report on this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
BidAlone6328@reddit
US is not a democracy.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
All of a sudden ir because you got your fat ass smoked
SneksOToole@reddit
It’s a representative democratic republic, thank you social studies teacher from 6th grade. Democracy is not a hard defined system, it’s a classification of systems. The US has free and fair elections, it is fairly trivial to argue it is under that umbrella.
FoundingFeathers@reddit
It is the norm. We just used to be way smaller groups. Agriculture and how we formed around the concept built the world we live in today. Most things we think of as "human nature" are adaptive to living in society we manifested. So thinking so myopic is already missing the forest for the trees.
SneksOToole@reddit
We used to live in way smaller groups that continually fought for survival against other smaller groups. The concept of living a life where one isn't regularly exposed to threats to one's security is an anomaly of human history.
Neceon@reddit
Tell that to the 16 million Dem voters that didn't vote and handed the country to a rapist. This is squarely on voter apathy.
SneksOToole@reddit
I mean, 2020 was kind of an anomaly, no? We had mail in ballots in more states, and it's much less difficult for a marginal voter to send in a ballot than to wait in line for an hour at a polling station. People forget that 2020 was razor thin too- several swing states were won with a fraction of a percent, Georgia famously by only 11,000 votes.
I think the problem is less apathy and more messaging. There's a whole swathe of Trump voters who voted for Democrats in other positions in this election; there are Democrats in positions of power in deeply red states like Kentucky's Andy Beshear. There are so many voters who went for Obama who are loyal to Trump now. Democrats have for three elections in a row run as the party against Trump, but Trump connects to them somehow. We have to figure out why if we want to get out of this in 4 years, assuming we still have that chance.
In the meantime, we can't blame each other or turn on each other. I think this is the wake up call to work and fight with dignity going forward. All we have is each other.
StuckAtZer0@reddit
Psssst. I've got a little secret to share.
Every institution (family, school, work) in your life has been anti-democratic.
The ONLY time you get to practice "democracy" within our Constitutional Republic is on election day. Well... that and your party's primary.... but something tells me you were probably okay with your party stomping on your right to democratically choose who would represent your party in yesterday's election.
You should probably work to keep Democracy alive within the Democratic party. Afterall, Bernie Sanders was the heir apparent in 2016. For 2024, I guess we'll never know what people on your side of the aisle actually wanted since the freedom to choose was taken away from you by your party's overlords.
SneksOToole@reddit
So first, not every institution in life needs to be democratic. When we say democracy is good, that doesn’t apply to every institution- school probably shouldn’t be democratic, the family probably shouldn’t be either. That has no relevance to what system of government is most effective in furthering the relationship between the power of the state and the check on the state of that power- the two can expand together slowly when people believe they have some power to amend the system and control what is and isn’t expanded, and the state is motivated to serve well to have that power expanded. Democracy so far does a pretty good job of that, but it’s only one piece of a larger puzzle- you can’t create these institutions whole-cloth and expect them to work.
As for the Kamala taking the nomination situation, it can certainly be argued as somewhat antidemocratic. I think there’s a general consensus that if Biden stepped down the VP would be the obvious choice, and she did get the vote of the superdelegates. But I don’t actually disagree with you- I think Biden should have made it his intent from the beginning to run as a one term President, and I actually thought he would in 2020. And a primary would have been nice, though I personally would not vote for Sanders in a million years in such a primary.
But parties are not required by our system of government to be democratic either- they can choose their nominees however, it just makes sense that a democratic process fits a democratic government. What matters more to me is the democratic process of government being followed- the peaceful transition of power, acknowledgment that we have to unite behind the winner of the election to govern us as well as possible, that sort of thing (things that Trump has consistently lit a dumpster fire over). It’s way more concerning to me that a President would try and hold on to power by hatching a fake electors plot involving threatening his own VP with a violent mob after lying to his entire base about an election his own AG said was the fairest in history. Parties being antidemocratic get punished with losing elections; Presidents being antidemocratic get rewarded at the expense of the institutions that hold our country together.
AUTIGERS2121@reddit
It means time goes on…
My father always taught me, “things are not as good or bad as they first appear.”
Seems like a lot of folks could use this advice today.
slimblade1@reddit
Solomon would disagree. He would say there is nothing new under the sun. And his conclusion of our lives lived on earth would be: “Fear God, and keep His commandments”. Ecclesiastes is short enough to read in an hour.
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
Thanks, grew up religious and have read the Bible a few times. :) I don’t think Solomon could have foreseen TikTok, but I think you’re trying to say life is meaningless, fear God, go to Temple on Saturday, don’t have sex on my period, don’t wear mixed cloth and it’s a life well lived? (Only slightly joking) Just because I’ve got a pretty easy normal life doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy for others.
KC5SDY@reddit
That is my point. People are crying and thinking that their lives are not destroyed. People are happy and looking forward to a new future. Either way, the sun will come up and it will set. Day after day after day after day. We will all move on, good, bad, and ugly.
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
The people whose lives are destroyed won’t move on though. Those with family and loved ones affected aren’t going to view this as just another day. Moving on isn’t an option for everyone.
zzzxxx1209381@reddit
No one’s life is destroyed.
TeaKingMac@reddit
If you die because you can't get an abortion, that's pretty destroyed.
That's what we're talking about.
Politics have consequences.
KamboRambo97@reddit
Well I don't mean to sound cold but that sounds like that's just nature taking it's course
just_browsing96@reddit
Well I don’t mean to sound cold but you’re not very bright are you
KamboRambo97@reddit
Yeah well you probably never written a single line of code (not even a print statement), coding takes a bit of thinking, granted what I do is pretty basic for programming standards, but if you can write a OS kernel from scratch by yourself you probably are smarter than me
just_browsing96@reddit
girl shut up LMFAO starting real deep with the logical fallacies this morning
who gives a shit about if you can code, or whatever anyones profession is
your profession doesnt dictate your expertise in areas outside of that field
KamboRambo97@reddit
Sorry political discourse doesn't bring me much joy, both sides are kinda funny af tho. I also voted for a very unpopular political party knowing they wouldn't win, that's how much I care about this shitty pseudo-democratic two party system where you are basically voting for either a stale bucket of piss or a pile of warm shit infested with pin worms
just_browsing96@reddit
“Sorry political discourse doesn't bring me much joy” stopped reading after this.
Too many people are deeply unserious and have the impulse management of a toddler in front of a jingling set of keys. There’s still time to change for y’all, but hopefully it’s not too little too late down the line.
KamboRambo97@reddit
Wtf is y'all? Probably should've read a little, because I said I didn't vote for Trump.
Not sure how you can take this two party system seriously, it is such a joke. Both sides want to take turns ass raping you without lube, only differences are the positions.
TeaKingMac@reddit
Guess we should go back to letting people get eaten by wolves and die of syphilis too.
Just nature taking its course after all
KamboRambo97@reddit
Absol-fucking-lutely, because how in the fuck did you get yourself in those situations in the first place?
OkGuitar7547@reddit
Oh , an abortion isn’t destroying a life ? You people really take the cake. As a native American would say; you speak with a forked tongue.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Yes they think it is ok to an orbortion up to the day they are do. Thats murder
Finance_with_soft_I@reddit
https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1458610/230629.pdf
Read more. I’ll get downvoted, this is a boogeyman.
TeaKingMac you are correct that during the overturn when the states weren’t settled, mothers did die. That’s horrible, nothing can change that past. Don’t think so poorly of your countrymen. No one reasonable (majority anywhere) wants mothers dying.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
I did not read the shit that you wrote you said down vote so i did
TeaKingMac@reddit
And yet, it happens
KC5SDY@reddit
First of all, that is complete and total BS. In the State of Texas, you can get an abortion if it is life-threatening. I know from personal experience.
B4USLIPN2@reddit
I’m lazy and don’t want to read 38 pages of a lawsuit. But, I did scan over that link. I was ignorant and under informed on this issue.
I believe part of the problem ( if not most of the problem) stems from bad newscasts. If a news station- any news station- is going to run a story on how Texas mothers are dying because doctors are afraid to perform a life saving abortion, then GODDAMNIT they better show the legislation that exist and report the full story. Now, I don’t know what the real story is.
TeaKingMac@reddit
Tell that to the ones who have died
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/
Kyosuke-D@reddit
Then move to a state that allows them. The federal election was never going to change abortion again.
datdouche@reddit
I’m pro-choice but like, there are more issues beyond just abortion. At the end of the day, Kamalla is part of the regime in power (even if you want to claim other root causes) while housing and grocery prices became simply unconscionable.
TeaKingMac@reddit
The government doesn't set prices. COMPANIES set prices. Companies run by capitalists. Capitalists who are celebrated by the republican party.
Everything the Republicans have said they'll do will raise prices, not lower them.
RarelyRecommended@reddit
Companies and markets set prices. That is capitalism. Governments set prices in a communist system. The US isn't communist despite what conservatives claim.
datdouche@reddit
Cope and seethe, my friend, cope and seethe
TeaKingMac@reddit
Datdouche indeed
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
Mass deportations, defunding public education (which is the main source of social services for kids), eliminating protections/rights for LGTQ people, making health decisions illegal for women… if you or people you love haven’t been affected yet you will be.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Mass deportations you mean to the millions that are here illegally yes their asses should go back to where they came from . Are they special does everyone else do it legally? So should they . It tells me what type of person you are ,break the law to get what you want. Sorry dont work that way
tupelo609@reddit
Wait til they're having to tell wives about pregnant affair partners and explain that they're now on the hook for child support. That's when all of this will make our outrage make sense to people like ones in these comments.
KC5SDY@reddit
Unfortunately, that is their problem to deal with. Everyone must move on. One way or another, the next will come.
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
Does it become more of a problem once it affects you or someone you love? Or is this a general life sucks and then we die philosophy? Cause I get nihilism, as long as it’s universal including one’s self.
KC5SDY@reddit
Life is what you make it. Hate Trump or love him, tomorrow will come. Plain and simple. It is your choice if your life will be miserable because of the election, not mine.
2manyfelines@reddit
What you don't seem to understand is that many people will not have that privilege.
And, if you don't believe me, try talking to the families of the Texas women who died this month of treatable pregnancy complications because the party that just won decided to punish women. They don't have that option.
More women will die. You won't.
That is my point.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
If it were not used as a form of birth control and only in certain situations, there would never be this problem
StuckAtZer0@reddit
Current circumstances has a lot less to do with "chance" but rather the consequences of actions you do or don't take.
That nugget of truth often times seperates a Liberal / Progressive from a Libertarian / Conservative.
veronicaisthebestcat@reddit
I agree, but I was talking about how it is chance to be born into the family/society/country we happen to exist in. For example, it is purely by chance of birth that I’m not affected by DACA, but I can recognize that someone who is has a very different life circumstance, decisions to make, and is affected differently by politics.
Harverd__Dropout@reddit
Rent's still due on the 1st 🤣
ItsYaGirlConfusion@reddit
Don’t forgot student loans too!
Ok-Walk-5092@reddit
Don't sign for a loan if you can't pay it back.
Fitchywanklebottom@reddit
Wait, I thought Biden wiped out all student debt? He didn't? That's sure how it sounded at first
Blindfire2@reddit
I know it's hard to believe, but there's this thing called the "Supreme Court", so they are filled with the president's (at the time the old justices are retiring) choice of people, and well...they denied him from being able to go through fully with the plan. Shocker the 7 Republican justices denied it, but it happened and here we all are needing 16x more money to complete a degree than 24 years ago in an economy where rich business owners are able to destroy jobs and raise prices to keep up with their ever constant growing salary + bonus.
If you have any other questions, feel free to keep asking, I'm sure you're looking for actual answers and not just trying to be another gross biased American :)
Fitchywanklebottom@reddit
So like I paid my student debt off a couple years ago? Was I also going to get reimbursement? Where was that money coming from?
Blindfire2@reddit
If they kept going and you fit within their range for eligibility (make under $250k married or $125k individual, and some other Eligibility requirements if you've been out of school for over 12 years and if you've received a pell grant and had a household income above a certain threshold) then yes you would have been reimbursed up to $20k even if you've paid it all off and his plan detailed where the taxes and budget cuts would come from (12% from defense, 6% of that coming from what we give to Israel, a tax on business owners/the taxes the business owners & execs are SUPPOSED to pay would be enforced, and a new law that dictates if a religious temple and their leader(s) are making an extreme amount, they would no longer be tax exempt, especially on their million dollar homes).
It wouldn't all be paid off at once clearly, it went over a 6 year plan (or longer...its been a bit considering the 12 court hearings about it being denied), and hell there's worse things our taxes are being spent on like when they tried to force people to hire right after covid restrictions but them businesses found a loophole and just had "hiring" signs up and interviewed 10 people a month but never took anyone on and pocketed the money, or the fact that $290 million A YEAR is spent on forgiving PPP loans (for starting businesses) to our politicians, or when the "small business act" was founded in 2020 to save small businesses impacted, they put stupid levels of restrictions that the business owners couldn't even get through without a small team (i should, know it came out of a dear friend's mouth who lost his pride and joy business to it) but larger businesses were able to use subsidiary companies and ate the entire budget up meaning rich people got richer.
Fitchywanklebottom@reddit
So because of corruption and other wasteful spending we should have the government hand out money to certain people but not others? What about people who didn't go to school because they didn't want loans? Were they going to be reimbursed too? I'm not sure what any of that has to do specifically with student loans.
Blindfire2@reddit
So the issue that is at hand is the fact that schools are ran like business. To graduate with a Bachelors (while taking your basics at a community/junior college) is $47k worth of loans, meanwhile the job market for a lot of jobs has faltered HARD meaning people are literally dying trying to have the initiative to get a better job (that and a lot of jobs still require an associate's at minimum while paying under $20/hr). So the schools were being targeted with taxes to try and lower the amount of loans future students would have to deal with, and then use that taxed money to help students who are now struggling if that makes any sense.
To "Why should students get help but not others?" again, it's not like they didn't try, but they got denied. Look at what happened to Insulin, it used to cost $1000 for A MONTH supply....look at that, they introduced a bill limiting how much they could charge, it's now $35 (at first for only Medicaid, but they've added rebates to certain companies to make more people be able to get it....despite the 43 Republicans who voted against the bill, shocker, most of those congress members have been lobbied by healthcare businesses, but a 2nd bill came out a year later to make EVERY business cap Insulin to $35, but 197 republicans blocked it...again "shocker").
So because they weren't able to help EVERYONE with a different LIFE SAVING prescription, does that mean we shouldn't use time and money to help one at a time? We either need to help EVERYONE at once or nobody at all? Nah, that's not how to think or else nothing ever gets done....
Side note it's not like he (along with Kamala who was going to enact it in her plan for the Economy and taxes) didn't TRY to help LITERALLY EVERYONE with lowering gas, groceries, etc. They were going to *try* to cap the amount that executives could make, meaning there'd be no reason for these execs to increase prices if they don't get any personal gain out of it and make how much they can earn based off of factors like "how many jobs are within the company? How much of your product/service is being sold to people?" and so on.
BayouGal@reddit
Just wait until the GOP (Greed Over People) Congress releases n states previously forgiven interest on student loans. That’ll be great 🙄
ApartmentBeneficial2@reddit
Oh shit, I’m late.
missychicago@reddit
Why's this so funny 😂
mods_suck_butt@reddit
I would say because of a lack of education
missychicago@reddit
Two degrees from Northwestern with a 3.9 GPA each time. You?
taurist@reddit
You just showed up today?
FoundingFeathers@reddit
Be ready for it to be more than half your income. Part of the Dems problem was not bragging about the suit against RealPage. But at the end of the day, big donors like Mark Cuban won't stand for that messaging. And it is clear the National Democratic Party would rather cater to them than the public. Republicans are still worse. But the people feel the contradictive meesaging currently in the national platform of the Dems. Clearly by Tump winning the popular vote.
bnjmnzs@reddit
Yup and my stocks and crypto are up HUUUUGGGE
metrorhymes@reddit
As the father of a trans kid, my finances are the last thing on my mind.
Vzninja@reddit
Project your moral high ground! He doesn’t have the same issues and votes accordingly.
Asklepios@reddit
Do conservatives know what empathy is?
StuckAtZer0@reddit
Absolutely.
But after calling Conservatives garbage, fascists, Nazis, racists, misogynists, homophobes, etc, do you believe the Left deserves any of that from those they attacked?
Asklepios@reddit
That seems like circular reasoning. If the republican party is against same sex relationships, uses one race as the enemy, doesn't allow women freedom over their bodies, etc.
Then why wouldn't they be called that? And if they are called that why would the response be: they called me homophobic etc so I'm going to prove them right and vote against their rights?
Vzninja@reddit
This
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Empathy doesn’t mean pitying self-made victims. I don’t pity a man who sex changed his child and proceeded to mention it all over Reddit for virtue points lmao
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metrorhymes@reddit
Not a shred of empathy among you
Thick-Sentence-9384@reddit
Yep, I'm waiting for the repeal on the marriage decision which I know is coming. I don't know where that stacks up after getting rid of birth control and getting rid of ADA & ACA and the pre-existing condition clause being reinstated.
noncongruent@reddit
It looks like the Comstock Act is back on the table. With a full stock of conservative judges all the way up to SCOTUS there's literally nothing to stop undoing all of the decisions that overturned many Comstock laws.
Thick-Sentence-9384@reddit
If they could, they'd roll back Loving too.
noncongruent@reddit
They can, and they will. The nature of unchecked power is that it runs rampant. There have been only very, very rare cases of benevolent dictatorships in human history. Hitler and Putin are very much the representative model when it comes to the levels of depravity that humans can do. Our founding fathers realized this when they created the Constitution and form of government we had. No branch had ultimate power, not until January next year that is. As an Official Act Trump can order the killing of the entire Biden family, and he has enough loyal followers that nobody would say no to that order, or at least, not say it more than once. Will he? I dunno, but he will be the first President in American history with the ability to do that and get away with it.
jesgolightly@reddit
It’s always money over people, and it’s infuriating.
SDRAIN2020@reddit
I voted people over money but others didn’t follow.
StuckAtZer0@reddit
I voted for freedom and liberty over a govt growing larger and wanting to erode my Constitutional rights.
bnjmnzs@reddit
To each their own. You much have good insurance or are extremely rich. Operations can be expensive
Matzah_Rella@reddit
That's your response to someone in fear for their child? Money? Have a heart for fucks sake.
bnjmnzs@reddit
We all make choices. That’s is their decision and their right to choose that lifestyle. Do what your wallet can afford. I hope for the best future possible for everyone. I personally don’t agree with that and I certainly don’t think it’s the government’s responsibility to either.
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jesgolightly@reddit
Is being straight or cisgender a lifestyle and a choice?
bnjmnzs@reddit
It’s a feeling.. I’m attracted to females.. people can feel whatever they want as long as it’s within legal and moral boundaries. And if those people have feelings that stray away from legal or moral norms then that’s also fine as long as they understand the ramifications for their actions.
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Acting on your feelings is the choice. This is what you are missing bubba
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Trump ain’t doing anything to trans kids, everybody settle the fuck down
Matzah_Rella@reddit
I disagree
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
I actually didn’t know he was banning the hundreds of insane genders out there- thank god for Trump!!
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Right, because my taxpayer money funded that essentially. Not your finances. No wonder it’s not on your mind
metrorhymes@reddit
Funded what? And I'm sure you realize, I'm also a taxpayer.
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Right, so you paid an almost immeasurable amount of it. On behalf of America we all thank you for forcing our financial contribution
metrorhymes@reddit
Amount of what? What the fuck are you even talking about?
djax9@reddit
Same sitch. :(
Striking-Rope674@reddit
You’re a terrible person
Thick-Sentence-9384@reddit
Stocks are always up during an election year so I'm not surprised. I won't be surprised when they actually did by the end of first quarter 2025. So I'd be buying bonds if I were you.
bnjmnzs@reddit
My portfolio is diversified I have bonds and will be investing in more while the market is hot especially in areas that will be in demand very soon.
mods_suck_butt@reddit
Just wait until Trump levies his 30% tax on goods from Mexico and China.
It's gonna be beautiful
pacochalk@reddit
The market up two points is HUUUUUGE to you? LMAO.
EconomistNo5807@reddit
Dow made a 1000 point gain lmao
pacochalk@reddit
You don't know the multiple meanings of the word "point" in finance, do you?
EconomistNo5807@reddit
Well I was in the trade so yeah ;)
bnjmnzs@reddit
That’s the market as a whole. “MY” Portfolio had tripled since open this morning. “MY” crypto is doing even better.. there can you read that better than my first post. I’m pretty sure I wasn’t talking about the market as a whole.
pacochalk@reddit
> ““MY” Portfolio had tripled since open this morning. “MY” crypto is doing even better..
You must think we're dumb, huh? This seems to be a mathematical impossibility given today's biggest movers.
https://www.cnbc.com/us-market-movers/
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/crypto/all/
Luckyjulydouble07@reddit
The economy is booming 💚📈🔼 Turn on CNBC if you haven’t yet people. We are going to be okay! Social issues are important too, just continue to stand for what you believe is right. 🏳️🌈❤️🖤🤝🇺🇸 We are all Americans here. United we should be, not divided!
bnjmnzs@reddit
Finally someone who understands!!! The first letter in USA stands for United. Despite what MSM might want you to believe the world is not going to end. Stand together with your loved ones and start by talking to each other with respect and dignity. We all have to get along with each other because there’s no more room for hate.
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
At least next year it’ll be more affordable! Your electric bills too!!!
KC5SDY@reddit
That is my entire point and people do not seem to want to listen.
FlyingAces3@reddit
That was my philosophy I choose to abide by. If my candidate won, I'd be getting up and going to work on Wednesday. If my candidate lost, I'd be getting up and going to work on Wednesday.
gt214@reddit
And it’s a baby smiling in it and we’re all teletubbies
gt214@reddit
Exactly!!!
2legeet2queet@reddit
And also your tax return will be less than usual, that is if you don’t end up owing.
Pale_Horse27@reddit
Well last year was the first time I’ve ever owed more than $100, and I owed $4500 with no changes to anything. I got money back every year trump was in office, so I beg to differ. I’ll let you know next year though.
ActualManager70@reddit
You do realize the tax code is based off of the Trump tax reform and wasn’t anything Biden did?
No. You probably don’t. You also probably think gas prices and groceries are controlled by the president.
Pale_Horse27@reddit
Wow a dick on Reddit, I’m flabbergasted. Lots of assumptions in one post. I think I’ll go back to enjoying my day now.
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ActualManager70@reddit
Answers my question. Thanks.
COINLESS_JUKEBOX@reddit
Which then results in downturns in poorer areas and a general decline of infrastructure…yay. Let’s centralize all the money to the richest of the rich guys!
NorthMathematician32@reddit
Trump's plan raises taxes on everyone but the 1%
BayouGal@reddit
Plus the extra costs of big tariffs
GurrenLagann214@reddit
Yup sun will be shining on all of us.
Tommyt5150@reddit
Unfortunately get ready for record breaking Hot Summers, once he does away with the EPA. I guess that’s Trump’s way for breaking records 🤦♂️
Sensitive_Code_1161@reddit
Can you explain to me what caused the Medieval warm period?
Tommyt5150@reddit
Can you explain to me why you Adore Trump so much?
Sensitive_Code_1161@reddit
He plans to get rid of the private central bank called "The Federal Reserve" that profits from the fiat currency it creates in its incestuous relationship with the Treasury department. Who owns the Fed?
Remove the illegal immigrants.
Stopping the WEF plans of reducing the US and the world's population.
Stop the Chinafication of the US. I don't want a social credit score where the powers that be can stop me from buying system by forcing us to us the Central Bank Digital Currency.
Stop the endless wars that only benefits the bankers that fund both sides of the warring parties.
Stop DEI, Stop men from being in women's sports. Stop the transexual insanity for children.
FunPomegranate8541@reddit
Do you know how to google?
Sensitive_Code_1161@reddit
I have read about but I could not find the conversation of how many internal combustion engines existed back then. Earth goes through natural cycles.
Luckyjulydouble07@reddit
We have been contributing to carbon emissions by letting countries like China do our manufacturing. They’re the ones who are polluting and contributing to the climate change. We are the cleanest nation in the world compared to others. They need to fix their policies, it’s not just us!
Tommyt5150@reddit
Don’t disagree with you, has to be a world wide effort. But the US will now for sure be out of that effort in light of Big Oil.
RedditLibsRSawftAF@reddit
The act of y’all manufacturing grievances to fulfill your delusional beliefs has become stale. Try getting out of your hive mind community and observe reality. Trump 24 and the country spoke loud and clear. Popular Vote win put the cherry on top. Texas Latinos voted huge for Trump. Flipping counties that haven’t voted Republican since the 1800’s. You pushed your progressive policies too far and the country is done with the nonsense.
Soggy-Bedroom-3673@reddit
Sorry, are you suggesting that climate change is somehow refuted by the will of the public?
RedditLibsRSawftAF@reddit
Considering I design EV’s, that would be a no. Nice try at a gotcha though. I am suggesting that people done listening to people yell from the top of their lungs about how we have to act now because the world is going to end. People like AOC making one proclamation after another and none have come true. People are sick of the Climate Change hypocrisy and hysteria. Sick of seeing politicians and celebrities preach about how dire things are, but yet they continue to build beach front properties, waste resources on houses they aren’t even currently living in and travel around the world producing more carbon emissions in one trip than the vast majority of people combined. EV mandates have caused a massive backlash too. Not because people hate the cars. It’s because the it’s the government making mandatory changes that the average citizen can see we are not even close to being anywhere near ready for. Even Elon knows that the infrastructure is not close. Then the 30kw charge per mile tax to replace a gas tax on top of rising charging prices are going to make the EV cost benefit null and void. People see rising costs of everything under the guise of climate change and they are done. The government over reached and the American people said enough.
KC5SDY@reddit
Yup. How you deal with it and go about your day is your choice.
Alexkono@reddit
Exactly. Like normal adults.
austinsutt@reddit
Even if it dose it on barren and desecrated earth.
stinky_pee@reddit
Yup. He does his best to destroy the planet. I hope all the people who voted for him eat their words someday. Fuck them
Sylfaein@reddit
I hope everyone who voted for him has the day they fucking deserve.
domi_nate87@reddit
See that's the problem. Instead of moving on and being at peace with the results, you wish ill will to random people. You are the epitome of that person who got Peanut the squirrel killed. People like you is what's wrong in this world. Rather have the world burn if they're not happy.
Sylfaein@reddit
I’m wishing them the day they deserve.
You say that like republicans didn’t attack the capital, last time they lost. At least democrats are fucking civilized.
domi_nate87@reddit
Just because some assholes did what they did on Jan 6th doesn't define all Republicans.
A lot of civilized Republicans were embarrassed that day. I was one of them. A lot of Democrats were not convinced that Harris did enough when she was vice president and in her campaign to sway their minds. You can get mad at Republicans, but Democrats in different states said enough was enough and voted Republicans. The ball is in Trump court. Don't wish the country ill will to prove a point.
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
“Some assholes” trump is going to remove on day one, by the way. He supports his militia.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-day-1-white-house/story?id=115315888
Paradoxical_Ego@reddit
"ABC news" lol
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
Where should I get my information? I’m asking genuinely, I’m open to truthful news sources.
Paradoxical_Ego@reddit
Compare and contrast both sides and consider context. ABC, CNN, MSNBC (they're the worst), are all left owned and blatantly lie to their viewer base. The View is awful and do nothing but lie to emotional voters. I won't recommend Fox news, because they can be pretty bad at times. You really need to view the source material of whatever they report on and see things for what they REALLY are. Like Trump's comment about Liz Cheney. All the corrupt news media stations were saying he was threatening and speaking violently about her, when in reality he was calling her a "war hawk, and saying she wouldn't be so gung ho about sending Americans to war if she herself had to face the enemy with rifles pointing at her in combat. I do watch a few select people that are highly intelligent, like Ben Shapiro, that show you what the media says and then shows you the full, unedited clip of what was really said so that you aren't mislead. Legacy media has become corrupt over time. You can tell just through their vernacular.
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/ben-shapiro
Ben Shapiro appears to be strongly right-leaning
domi_nate87@reddit
You sources like Ground News and All Sides media outlets to get news articles of the same topic. Nothing wrong with ABC news, but if that's your only news source then you're missing out on information. Also, using news source from the view of the other countries is another good way to get unbiased opinions.
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
I appreciate it
Chemical-Singer-4655@reddit
It honestly doesn't matter where, more so that you have a wide variety.
I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and then a ton of smaller, independent sources. It makes it quite clear who is biased and who does their best to control that bias. If left-leaning news isn't covering a story, ask why not. Same with right-wing.
I also like to play a game when listening to news. I listen to what they say, then ask myself "how does this person benefit from me believing them?"
You'll find you cling to a few news sources for a while, realize they're not as great as you thought, so you reduce that channel and begin being skeptical.
Skepticism is the greatest pathway to truth. Question everything, but then go digging for the truth.
As someone who used to exclusively listen to left-leaning news, this is what led me to be independent instead of tied to a single party.
lukearguin@reddit
They have had no due process of the law. Do you understand what that means?
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
Why do you think that? Any proof? I’m always open to changing my mind based on truth
Jazzlike-Rice8297@reddit
Man f them. Aint no reasoning with these low lifes. They want to wish harm on people who voted for Donald Trump we are all armed so let them talk. They not gonna bully me so dont bother reasoning with them
Sylfaein@reddit
That they’d vote for the traitor who instigated that attack DOES define all republicans.
domi_nate87@reddit
So then what does that say about the Democratic party? The people of the United States rather see someone who has pending charges in office. But make no mistake, a lot of politicians should be felons that are in office right now through both parties
MsMo999@reddit
Ken Paxton has entered the chat…surprise he’s gonna sue Democratic Party for these remarks.
Sylfaein@reddit
Oh, don’t get me wrong—our elections have always been about picking the lesser evil. I don’t believe a single damn one of them is without flaws. I just can’t remember a presidential candidate more overtly evil than this one.
I was a straight ticket republican voter, before this guy. But he turned the party into something unrecognizable, and it makes me sick to see. The republican party used to be about accountability and self-sufficiency. It used to have dignity, integrity, and honor. Or at least I thought it did. Now it’s a fucking caricature, and I’ll never forgive him and his cronies for that.
domi_nate87@reddit
I like to think you're better than that. I know you're better than that.
lukearguin@reddit
😂😂😂
Possumcox@reddit
May I remind you of all the riots from the left? Forget about those don’t ya?
QuezacoatlsPaynus@reddit
They “attacked” the capital… a handful of unarmed citizens. It was more like trespassing than the left has blown up into a half-assed insurrection. Meanwhile, people get punched for wearing MAGA gear, Maxine Waters endorses the harassment of Trump supporters, and riots riots riots riots. Don’t lay that BS on conservatives. Liberals are the violent ones.
Possumcox@reddit
Exactly. More violent assaults have been committed by the left than 100x the fake insurrection. Which, btw, was executed by the democrats. Speaking of executions, do we still have that law for traitors?
Additional_Syrup_300@reddit
Rioting every time there’s something they vaguely disagree with is civil? There’s a reason blue cities board up windows every time something happens lmfao.
We fucking love how mad y’all are, keep it up
RealisticLength8888@reddit
We are having a party
MadNugs7@reddit
You realize that P'nut*** was reported by a Republican, right?
GW1767@reddit
You lie I looked it up her TickTock plainly states she supports Harris
GW1767@reddit
Proof please
domi_nate87@reddit
Yea, and fuck that person. Just because I'm Republican doesn't mean I agree with an asshole who had the audacity to do something like that. For all I know the owner of that squirrel is a Democrat and I just feel bad for him.
But it's a scary where the government can just come into your home based on something like that is atrocious.
Careful-Owl389@reddit
A Squirrel???..Who givez a Frick about a dumb animal..smh! Stupid!
Express-Following282@reddit
Right on 👍🏼!!! Some ppl, there’s just no hope for them!! They like to argue, fight n condemn any n all things they don’t understand or don’t want to even learn about…not even any compensation thoughts…
TimeCarry6@reddit
Hmmmm, maybe it’s people like Trump, who vows violent revenge on those who oppose him, and the mob that cheers him on, who are actually what is wrong with this world.
Can you not smell your own hypocrisy?
domi_nate87@reddit
That's not my problem and it shouldn't be your problem who Trump decides to go after to the people that oppose him. I "we" have to worry about ourselves and our family. If you voted for Harris in believing that your life would be better for it, I respect that. We just need to move on and hopefully America and the world will thrive.
MsMo999@reddit
For me it helps to not focus on myself and be thankful. Grateful I’m not Ukrainian or Palestinian because their worlds are gonna get even more effed up than mine will or our small family owned business.
LifesShortKeepitReal@reddit
This 💯
Sea_Blackberry_1075@reddit
I'm with you. That may be the only way out... is for us ALL to suffer so those people will see they had a hand in this and they can't blame shit in the Dems anymore. They own it. Sadly we will all pay for their admission to the circus!
Commercial_Yak_7310@reddit
I second this! I hope the very worse for them. Fuck them and fuck this land called America, piece of shit country🖕🏼
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Get the fuck out and go live in pakistan
MrPanzeee@reddit
you can move to another country if you don’t like
GW1767@reddit
Well it has been a really good day. But the meltdowns are making it even Better. Thanks for the entertainment
Easytripsy@reddit
Any day not living as a woman in Afghanistan is a great day
lukearguin@reddit
We’re having a great day, thank you
theguyintheskyy@reddit
Thank you! I hope everyone who didn’t vote for Trump has the day they deserve as well! 😌
missychicago@reddit
Oh my goodness...
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
When he won the 1st time, I removed myself from the organ donor lists. Now I won't even donate blood, time or anything else. Let em get it from their president.
RealisticLength8888@reddit
Basically the US
TaurusDH@reddit
Classy.
stinky_pee@reddit
Because voting for a racist, misogynistic, terroristic rapist and convicted felon is classy lmao. Fuck off
TaurusDH@reddit
Also, wait till you find out what Kamela is. :)
TaurusDH@reddit
Ah yes, because a conviction in a civil court means much of anything. Prosecution in a court that the old prosecutor said shouldn't even have been brought is a thing.
I enjoy that you left bigotry out, because that is exactly what you are doing.
More than half of the country rebuked the Biden Harris administration in massive ways last night. You think that they're all lining up to be racists?
Classy bro. Enjoy your echo chamber.
Bootstrap1029@reddit
why is it always the democrats and the left that spew out all this hate?
Wonderful-Run-1408@reddit
I'm with you. Very sad this morning. I'm trying to figure out how to go forward.
lukearguin@reddit
Get a grip and be an adult, like the right did, when the election was stolen last time.
nunyabiznizzzzzzzzzz@reddit
That’s nothing new you liberals have been trying to figure out how the world works and moves forward for an eternity. Here is your answer: Watch and learn.
RedditLibsRSawftAF@reddit
FU2
stinky_pee@reddit
Redneck trash
Alexkono@reddit
Lmao my favorite team didn’t win!
stinky_pee@reddit
Ah yes because being upset about the choice of “team” who decide my rights and my fate is the same as being upset when the Cowboys lose. Fucking idiot
GurrenLagann214@reddit
Ef em.
JayScramble@reddit
The number of sunrises over Ukrainian are clearly numbered.
mods_suck_butt@reddit
Well. The wife and I wanted to have kids. But that can't happen anymore. Not in this country. She is terrified there will be a complication and that she'll die as a result of a lack of care.
JayScramble@reddit
Same
Cold-Raise-1709@reddit
Bye
Fine-Craft3393@reddit
The sun rises every day over Russia / Iran / Venezuela / China as well…. Not sure if that’s a good argument for “things will be just fine”
JayScramble@reddit
Great point
Anon-1028@reddit
But this morning, it was a little brighter. Air felt amazing and something in the air just made it feel like it was....special
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
Jesus these people are so soft, you'll be fine. You survived 4 years of mean tweets before, and soon you'll be able to afford your groceries again.
Xcz13@reddit
Explain cheaper groceries,trump and all his rich buddies don’t like money? and are gonna forgo record breaking profits? this is such a right wing talking point that makes zero sense.. I really need to hear this explained to me
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
Because a lot of our grocery products like say beef, are imported from other countries, even though we produce more beef than any other country in the world. Tariffs would discourage this business practice by big AG, and encourage sourcing from local businesses. I’m not confident if it’ll work out that way or not, but I know it’s better than higher taxes and continuing to fund proxy wars like the Democrats have been doing.
Rich people are always going to be greedy, there’s no stopping that. Have you ever asked why Trump was almost assassinated twice and it never got any news coverage? The only presidents that have been assassinated in U.S. history have been the ones to disrupt the status quo, and the majority of Americans have spoken that the status quo isn’t working for us. We’ll have to wait and see if what comes after is for better or for worse.
swalkerttu@reddit
Trump's assassination attempts got plenty of news coverage.
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
It really didn’t tho, it didn’t even make a full week on the news cycle. The 2nd one was a blip. If you were honest with yourself you’d be able to admit that no matter your feelings on Trump.
LordShesho@reddit
And this makes things cheaper HOW? If it was cheaper before to import something, and then importing something becomes more expensive, that means getting it locally would still be more expensive than it is now, just less expensive than the added tariffs on imported products.
Reminder: tariffs are taxes paid by US importers on imported products, not taxes on exported goods
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
Yes but you’re forgetting the important part that the money is circulated within our own economy instead of other country’s economy. The companies maintain control of the supply by importing, and if their prices are comparable to local sources then you can pay the farmers and ranchers and regional distributors directly instead of paying extra to the corporate middle man.
Corporations will always try to screw us, the only way to beat them is to rely on them less and rely on each other more.
LordShesho@reddit
Nothing you just said told me how groceries would be cheaper.
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
I never said they would be cheaper, I said you would be able to afford them again.
Once monopolies increase prices, there's little we could do to force them to lower them. What was Kamala's plan to stop the inflation that her admin created? Raise corporate taxes? That'll just inflate the prices even more. If you have more money in your pocket though, you can choose to keep feeding the corporation or choose to spend it on actual human beings. Your money, your choice. Anyways I gotta go back to my job now, you know, to make money. You should try it lol
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
They can’t. And it doesn’t matter that they can’t. Apparently a lot of people are mad as hell about having a competent and generally well-intentioned president
Xcz13@reddit
It’s kinda sad, this many American are this gullible and stupid , overall just lack common sense
Chewy96@reddit
Unless the tariffs and deportations he has proposed are implemented (which was probably all talk, but).
What do you think happens to the cost of goods when the cheap illegal labor that works at farms is deported? Or when Mexico pays tariffs on the goods we get from there? You think the businesses are going to eat those costs? No, they pass them on to the consumer.
noncongruent@reddit
We already know what happens when the supply of migrant labor is removed from farms, we've done this experiment in Alabama and Florida. The result was the same both times, millions of dollars of crops rotting in the fields and farmer bankruptcies. The problem you have is that you think of migrant farm jobs being the same as a job at McDonald's, go to work every day and get a regular paycheck. That makes you think that all farmers have to do is raise what they pay and the American workers will flood in to do the job.
You couldn't be more wrong.
The reason why the experiments failed is because farm work is extremely intermittent. Imagine that McDonald's only being open a couple weeks at a time, maybe twice a year. Your mythical American worker will need to be paid enough in those few weeks to cover all their living expenses for the year. Immigrant workers make do because they travel all over the country following the harvests during the summer and fall, then go back home to Mexico where the money they earned goes a whole lot further. No American is interested in following the harvests around the country, then trying to live the rest of the time back home on what they earned. Farmers certainly can't afford to pay a local a year's worth of McDonald's wages for a few week's work. And even if they could, no American is going to be paying $50 for a tomato, head of lettuce, or an apple. Our agricultural sector cannot exist without migrant labor. Get rid of the migrants and the farmers go bankrupt and out of business.
MsMo999@reddit
Yes as a business owner requiring goods from China, raising tariffs raises the cost of our tile & wallpaper. That’s what happened before and it doesn’t go back down either. Like health insurance, once it’s up it stays up.
Soggy-Bedroom-3673@reddit
Minor correction, it's Americans that pay for the tariffs. But yes, the American companies that import goods will pass on the tariffs to consumers.
The theory is that companies are encouraged to source those goods elsewhere or make them in the US, but making things in the US isn't going to happen overnight, and definitely isn't going to be cheaper.
lost_in_trepidation@reddit
And anyone with even basic understanding of economics knows that inflation was actually handled well under Biden.
We had an unprecedented, historic event that caused inflation. The fact the inflation came down and we didn't have a deep recession is kind of a miracle.
Possumcox@reddit
A historic event that was predicated by funding to the Chinese lab by Democratic officials. Then the response was bungled by giving away billions that led to historic inflation. Let’s get our facts straight. Of course, inconvenient truths are something democrats are expert at gaslighting and avoiding.
cocobutters@reddit
the Federal Reserve Bank has stepped into the chat
metrorhymes@reddit
I'm not simply willing to forego decency to save fifteen cents on eggs.
KC5SDY@reddit
That is exactly what I have been trying to say. The world is not going to end in a firey explosion. For some things we'll get better for some things we'll get worse. The point is everyone moves on.
Spadeykins@reddit
Said the German family living next door to the nice Jewish family the night before they were hauled off.
Commercial_Yak_7310@reddit
A fiery explosion don’t sound so bad
LP99@reddit
Yea, it’s the mean tweets.
Every indication of tariffs, corporate tax cuts, rich tax cuts, and restriction of immigration will spike the cost of everything.
The gutting of the federal government and its agencies will expose every American to greater risk at the leisure of corporate revenues. Enjoy the new versions of lead paint and lakes in fire.
The global environment is virtually certain to be upended and Trump will bail on NATO and align with Russia. Ukraine and Taiwan will be Russian and Chinese states.
But, it’s just some mean tweets.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
Women are dying of sepsis bc they're being denied abortions for terminal fetuses. Amber Thurman, Nevaeh Crain, Josseli Branica. 3 women who died recently in Texas and Georgia after being forced to carry their terminal pregnancies until they died painfully, bodies fully overcome with sepsis. 3 ER visits later and Nevaeh's mom watched her die in a hospital bed, bleeding profusely from her groin, baby finally miscarried but it was too late, black blood dripping from her nose and mouth as septic shock finally killed her.
This is what people are scared of. This is what Trump is doing to our country. This is how women died 80 years ago, when segregation was still a thing.
sealclubberfan@reddit
If you think the orange guy will help fix the grocery price problem, well, good luck to you. Dude has bankrupted darn near every company he's started.
Rare-Investment2293@reddit
And Kamala raised nearly $1 billion from corporate donors and couldn’t even make it competitive lol
Valued_Rug@reddit
The swing states were very close. The final tallies are not done being counted. This race WAS very close, despite how the electoral college works. The tales will be woven that he was ushered in in a great surge, but the numbers say he eeked it out.
FunPomegranate8541@reddit
Didn’t you people get mad when you were called garbage?
Spadeykins@reddit
You're a fucking idiot if you think groceries are going to suddenly become cheaper. Full stop.
nootnoot54@reddit
The continuous rotation of the earth is a really fucking low bar
Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ@reddit
Even sunnier now!!! TRUMP 2024!!!!!
AurumTyst@reddit
Yet the sun did rise As always, the curious soul. Watch it blink. It espies the rise of hate and lies, But is wont to rise again. For my part, I have done just that. All that I can and all to plan, Yet my daughters shake with fear.
junk-drawer-magic@reddit
Beautiful
AurumTyst@reddit
... thanks.
JurassicParkCSR@reddit
The sun rose on every human atrocity too. What's your point?
chrisrayn@reddit
Yeah, but it will once humanity has completely died off as well, so what the fuck does that help? The sun comes up because it has to, whether on a good world or an evil one. Saying the sun will come up is the same as saying my alarm will go off for work. It has zero effect on the morality of this world. But now I have to wake up in the morning and worry about my family. The sun coming up is comforting in scifi, but not the real world…yes the fucking sun comes up every day, but does it rise on a world with good people, or bad people? Does it rise for the living, or the dead? Does it rise for just us, or also our fellow man? The sun is a cold bitch and rises for no one…it just rises because it has to. But we have choices. We can choose not to rise. We can choose to do or do not. The sun is nothing to us other than a fucking alarm clock.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
My rights are actively disappearing and I hear propaganda about myself on the TV every day as well as receiving propaganda mail, I cannot live like this seeing lies about my minority plastered all over everyday media as if it's some simple fact of life now
Prize_Pay9279@reddit
What rights are disappearing?
TimeCarry6@reddit
Let me guess, there are absolutely no females in your world.
Prize_Pay9279@reddit
What rights will they lose under Trump?
Far_Introduction3083@reddit
Because its morning in America.
TimeCarry6@reddit
*mourning
edit, correct spelling
Alexkono@reddit
Yep. Just because someone’s favorite team didn’t win, doesn’t mean the world will all of a sudden end. Normal adults just go about their day.
lemoncookei@reddit
it's a privilege to be unbothered by what another trump presidency means for this nation. many women, lgbt, and minority folks are scared for their basic human rights because trump and his people have already specifically stated that they are going to target us
Alexkono@reddit
the fear mongering is hilarious, just like it was when he was president in 2016. nothing fundamental will change with a vast majority of people's lives.
LuckyAmeliza@reddit
2016 he had competent people working in the Whitehouse who could keep him in check. He has his "soldiers" now that will do whatever he says without question now. That's the difference.
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
So the covid pandemic = nothing fundamental changed? Were you alive in 2008? Have you read about wars before? Do you really think stability is a given?
NonchalantSavant@reddit
Your point is valid, but at the same time maddening as I’ve been complaining for years that our biggest problem as a nation is treating/supporting our political parties like a favorite sports team. Whether the Cowboys win or lose affects nothing in my life. Quite the opposite with political parties. It’s already affecting child-bearing women in this state. So incredibly short-sighted for Republican voters.
Alexkono@reddit
Disagree that it's short-sighted for Republicans. There are other issues other than abortion, but I do agree that the abortion issue is draconian for them.
KC5SDY@reddit
That is exactly what I was trying to say.
Electronic-Lock653@reddit
And trump will star it in the eyes
TheBrandedMaggot@reddit
Enjoy a lower cost of living
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
I’ve been reading all this on here, I got one question.
Does anyone on this entire forum have any idea the potential dangers to the country that millions of undocumented illegals, drugs, gangs, sex slaves, potential terriorist etc will have? Do you know how many decades, dollars and lives will be affected by the lack of border control by the current administration?
If you do please tell me!
id331@reddit
👍🏽
ButterBean0013@reddit
Tell your 15 million missing voters how you feel. It was ya own fault you lost.
d3dmnky@reddit
Yup. Won the popular vote too.
YourLocalSpyAgent@reddit
Saw the maps of the shift and a good 70% at the least shifted towards Trump. Here in Texas, every single metropolitan area shifted towards Trump. Every single one. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso. Massive disaster across the board for democrats.
lukearguin@reddit
That’s because people. Any afford rent, groceries, gas and it would have gotten worse. Enough is enough
Boohboomagoo-@reddit
That’s also because people don’t understand that the federal reserve is not part of the federal government and the president has absolutely no power over interest rates.
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
His policies can affect everything around you
rimora@reddit
These idiots are in for a rude awakening over the next 4 years as prices continue to rise at even higher rates than before.
Atex-Skeeter@reddit
Yeah it will be hard for Trump to correct the total economic disaster Joe and Camala left
noncongruent@reddit
Yep, a 20% tariff means instant 20% inflation.
halfman_halfboat@reddit
Do you not understand how tariffs work?
Significant-Sock-487@reddit
To be fair “taxing the rich” would have the same implications. You can’t add taxes or tariffs to business owners or corporations and not expect the cost to roll to the consumer. Both sides are running on economic stances that don’t make any sense and don’t solve the problem.
OAttention@reddit
TARRIFS will make it worse :)
TopCartographer3038@reddit
What are you going to do when prices continue to rise?
Grand_Paramedic1734@reddit
So when that doesn’t change, who are you going to blame?
soonerfreak@reddit
Maybe Biden should have fucking done something about it instead of saying everything is fine because the stocks owned by their billionaire donors were up. Stop blaming powerless people trying to live their lives and blame those in power. Leftist like me hated this admin and yet we were the only ones waving red flags about their economic policy, Israel policy, and how useless bringing out all those Republicans and billionaires were. Only 1% of Republicans switched votes in 2024 compared to 2020.
Grand_Paramedic1734@reddit
Leftists like you do nothing but rant online and post trauma porn of dying Palestinians on your timeline with zero action. Stop white knighting. What part of my comment suggested I was glorifying Biden? I was very direct: who will they blame when prices don’t go down and the lower and middle classes continue to suffer?
soonerfreak@reddit
For a second comment you direct your anger and blame at voters who are hurting instead of the democratic establishment that lost to Trump twice running stupid campgain.
Grand_Paramedic1734@reddit
Yeah the Democratic establishment is dysfunctional and corrupt, we know this.
I’m not directing “anger” at anyone but you, so we’re clear. I’m asking them a question. Who will they blame when they continue to suffer?
CaptainElastix@reddit
I find this hard to believe.
Kollekt2@reddit
That was the big upset
mcmaster-99@reddit
People weren’t even ready for a white woman to lead them.
txteedee@reddit
This. Add in the fact that she was a POC.The fact that the rise in ugly political rhetoric happened with Obama’s election makes it known that America hasn’t changed. There’s still a lot of racism and misogyny. There is no way a candidate as unqualified as Trump should have won. But, this is what the people chose. The Democrats need to start now in getting younger candidates ready for the future. Hopefully, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, and John Stewart will be able to continue to broadcast because they will have plenty of material for the next four years.
SpecialistOffer2574@reddit
How is Kamala anymore qualified than Trump is to be President of United States when he’s already done it? What has Kamala done in her career to be a good qualifier for the Presidential position?
Consistent_Leg_6765@reddit
That’s a flawed argument, he’s already done it.
The captain of the Exxon Valdez captained a tanker before. Does not mean that most people thought he did a good job or he should do it again.
That said, Trump the people’s choice by both the electoral college and the popular vote.
Get in line with and support OUR president.
renesme3102@reddit
For me he will be The President not my President. He’s made it abundantly clear since 2015 that he only cares about those who support him. I did not vote for him so I’m not important to him.
soonerfreak@reddit
If liberals keep blaming their under performance in 2016 and 2024 on the identity of the candidate instead of their awful campgains and shitty policy positions we are never gonna learn a lesson from this.
ArguingWithPigeons@reddit
Come on. You’d be a moron to not understand it had at least a major part in her underperformance.
Adding to: courting republicans, ignoring the white uneducated working class, being anointed instead of primaried, etc.
evilcrusher2@reddit
I had to vote in Wisconsin this year because I was qualified to do so and liberal Travis County Texas did send my absentee ballot. Lesbian Democrat Tammy Baldwin barely won in WI, but she won and Harris did not (by a way wider margin). It's not much a part of these identities, as it was we had a candidate and supporters telling their voting base that the economy was getting better while it wasn't supported on a consumer level to afford the cost of living. We had a candidate that waited until the last moment to say genocide in Gaza is wrong while college age students in Michigan are quick to forget being pepper sprayed for utilizing free speech to protest genocide.
There's a myriad of things socially and economically people were upset with this administration about and were not even addressed. And telling them they need to reevaluate their voting decision (then inserting whatever excuse to vote your way) because it could cost your party the election isn't going to win that vote over.
tankm94@reddit
Keep crying
soonerfreak@reddit
No it had a part, not a major part. Multiple women of color won districts she lost or out performed her.
Boohboomagoo-@reddit
I don’t think the policy was shitty. I think they just treat 80% of the country as fly over territory. Sadly we need more democrats in power from the Midwest and central regions. California and New York need to step away. There is fantastic democrat leadership in these states but they consistently bank on California and New York. They lost the entire east coast. They are not connecting with people. And they need to make 80% rest of the country feel like they matter and it’s not fly over territory. She did like half as many television rally’s and appearances. Trump has been on tv literally every minute for the past 8 years …
Goodolefood@reddit
It has nothing to do with women or the color. Clearly it’s about policies
CausticCacti@reddit
White women voted 70 something percent for Trump
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Me and everyone else I know that voted for Trump didn’t do so because Kamal is a woman we did so because she’s not a qualified president and doesn’t have policies the benefit us
Like at all
Her being a woman has absolutely zero to do with it for 99% of Republican voters.
lemoncookei@reddit
so somehow a convicted felon, rapist, racist, conman, and sexual predator who hangs out with epstein and diddy is more qualified than the previous vp? do you realize how dumb that sounds? your bias is showing
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
You do realize that you’re just proving everyone else’s point Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party is so utterly terrible and so many Americans consider it not even an option. Yes, they would rather vote for the convicted, felon, rapist, racist, man, and sexual predator.
Your words, not mine
So apparently he is absolutely terrible. He wins the vote as a republican for the first time in 20 years and has a landslide victory after four years of completing competence by Joe
You’re just mad that people don’t align with your views and you’re realizing that the entire country does not think like a Reddit forum
CaffeinateMeCapn@reddit
Yes, we are definitely mad about that. Not "just" mad about that, but definitely that also. I believed in the American people, and the American people showed me to be a fool for that belief. I thought we were collectively better than this.
I've been mad that the Democratic party doesn't align with my views either, but I would gladly take their incompetence over the dangerous cancer that We the People just elected.
PS: in that long list of descriptors, don't forget "twice impeached."
Nuggetry@reddit
Wait you’re saying we’re not allowed to be upset that our peers just voted for a rapist felon who’s pushing 80 years old?
MartingaleGala@reddit
Dems are automatically using her gender to seethe today. Not looking at the complete shit show that we’ve had the last 4 years. It is this. I’d love to have a female president but she’s not it. I don’t think democrats even wanted her as their candidate.
serioussslythough@reddit
As if Trump’s previous term wasn’t a shit show 🤦🏽
MartingaleGala@reddit
Deal with it.
mcmaster-99@reddit
Im neutral and didn’t vote this time because both candidates suck. But the fact that we elected Biden but not Hillary or Kamala kind of hints that a gender issue may have played a role there. I’m saying this as a man too.
Midwest_Born@reddit
And as a woman, I'm agreeing with you! I said the same thing this morning
MartingaleGala@reddit
Cool. I disagree but thanks for your take.
TheFeedMachine@reddit
You can disagree with her policies, but to say she is not qualified is asinine. She was a district attorney, attorney general, senator, and VP. She has tons of qualifications. What is it that makes her not qualified?
call_me_Kote@reddit
What’s your favorite trump policy
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
The one where Harris is not president lol I would’ve voted for a piece of dryer lint over her. It’s just so happens that Trump actually does align with my believes.
call_me_Kote@reddit
So name some policies then.
_the_hare_@reddit
Remain in Mexico. All the foreign policy. Getting black men out of jail and funding HBCs. Tax policy.
chayatoure@reddit
I have seen multiple people claim Harris didn’t have any policies, but trump somehow does. When pressed, he literally said “a concept of a plan”.
UnreliableCarsAreFun@reddit
or maybe, just maybe, the candidate just wasn't as popular as people thought regardless of their identity..
Techsas-Red@reddit
That will not end up being why she got thumped. It’s because too many Americans aren’t “progressive” and bristle at some of the issues Dems hold dear. Swing back more moderate and you guys would probably have killed it.
Boring_Impress@reddit
The dem party is borderline conservative. They do nothing actually progressive.
Techsas-Red@reddit
Haha! Your version is obviously different than the majority of American voters.
Boring_Impress@reddit
Most American voters don’t even know what they are voting for. Democrats and republicans are essentially the same party. Which is why you only get two choices basically everywhere in America.
IndigoSunsets@reddit
Kamala was not a progressive candidate.
Techsas-Red@reddit
Keep in mind that it’s not always about a candidate. It’s about a platform. I didn’t vote for Trump, I voted for the platform. I think he’s a lousy human, but I think the party has a better platform. Half the wild off-the-cuff stuff he says won’t ever happen and you know it.
IndigoSunsets@reddit
What platform were you voting for?
I don’t know it, and that’s the problem. The guardrails that kept him within the norms of how government works aren’t going to be there this time.
mcmaster-99@reddit
That’s one of the reasons why I was neutral this time. She was too progressive.
pacochalk@reddit
Not if you've been paying attention for the past four years.
TXRhody@reddit
Will probably end up winning all 7 swing states.
Alexkono@reddit
But BLUE WAVE!!!
ladyambrosia999@reddit
Im NGL did people not read about project 2025? Did they just not think it was real?
NoPersonality18@reddit
Me and my sister were telling my mother about it a few months before Election Day and she straight up said “No, they won’t let him do that.” She voted for him yesterday. 🫠
themoneymademedoit1@reddit
We, as a country, value a convicted rapist and greed over immigrants and women'
SpiritualCopy4288@reddit
Therapy. HMU for referrals
katbat2981@reddit
RECOUNT
woodstock9999@reddit
Today it is hard to think think through at all. I am so full of dread on many levels and need to just let this wash over me, I don't even know where to begin or end but if Project 2025 is the playbook most all of us will be living in a new world order. It seems so surreal right now like we are in alternate universe or a really bad dream. There will no guardrails. Hard to imagine how this will play out. But we have to maintain hope and strength and focus on the midterms next. The Democratic Party needs to reinvent itself and we need to come together for the greater good. I am worried for friends, family, co-workers, old people, young people, minorities, women, children teachers, doctors, our planet, ad infinitum. You have to stay positive - they want us to live in fear - don't give in. Be well all and try to have a restful night and next few days. Between the stupid clock change, Monday's storms and this outcome it is easy to fall into the abyss. Pull yoursslef up as best you can and lean on each other. Take care.
noncongruent@reddit
I debated removing this, but have decided to leave it up for now. However, I'm locking the comments for a bit so that I can clean up reports and such. It should be unlocked before too long.
KronusEdits@reddit
Not gonna be polite to anyone from the group that wants me dead, and is ok with 20 million immigrants being shoved into trains and camps like the holocaust. At some point you just gotta accept that some people's brains just don't work all that well
Trougius@reddit
No one wants you dead. No one getting genocided or put in camps
KronusEdits@reddit
Billionaires raise prices for fun and republican lawmakers are evil. wake up
Shadeghost30@reddit
Yeah says the one from a party that supported genocide on the indigenous people
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
You are clearly white.
Trougius@reddit
And? No one is getting put in a camp or genocided.
GroovyGramPam@reddit
Who wants you dead? Paranoia abounds…
KronusEdits@reddit
Republican lawmakers. You must be Patrick star
Overworkedslug5@reddit
Like the holocaust? Immigrants going through Mexico to get to the US actually suffer that everyday. Many are kidnapped and extorted in horrible cruel ways the same or worse than Nazi Germany. At some point you got to accept that some people’s brains just dont work that well.
KronusEdits@reddit
So because they suffer to get here they should get the same treatment while being mass shipped out of the nation? Not to mention the economic consequences because all these people are working
ultrafrisk@reddit
Hi. Can me and just one other person I don't know, stay at your place or around it? Looking for a job. Thanks thanks.
venusflytrap777__@reddit
Just put the fries in the bag lil bro
Luckyjulydouble07@reddit
I’m so freaking tired of all of the censorship on Reddit. Thank you for leaving this up. People have the right to voice their opinions. It’s our God given right as Americans to have free speech. 🎤 Go off people! 🇺🇸 This is America. Let your voices be heard but remember we are stronger united than divided.
yeahyerdumb@reddit
This is the problem with at least half of America .. they mix up their 1st amendment right to free speech and infringing on someone else's free speech .. the reason the government cannot regulate free speech on Google /reddit/ Facebook because that would violate free speech .. these companies have the right to their own free speech because they own the platform your using . To force a private company to allow another person free resign on a platform owned by a private company would violate the companies First Amendment Right to their own free speech .. see how that works .. private companies don't owe you a place to air your grievances or post your opinions .. they are answerable to their shareholders and in a capitalist society money talks and Bukl$h/t walks . The government is the only thing the first amendment protects you from .. and it isn't even black and white in that case . Any even with that free speech you can be sued and held to account . That's why Trump and Giuliani both lost their civil cases for defaming people and lying about the whole situation .. they didn't have a right to freely trash and lie about people .. same way Alex Jones lost everything you can't just make things up for your own personal gain at the expense of others .. right wing media is doing people a disservice when they lie and pretend peoples 1st amendment is being violated by for profit companies .. the reason no court will ever force a company to allow someone compete free reign with their speech on a companies platform is that would mean the "government " is taking away the companies free speech .. same way stacks of cash used to buy politicians by companies is "free speech" our system is broken and it isn't broke the way half the country thinks it is .. people would do themselves a great service if they either flipped off CNN MSNBC FOX NEWSMAX and all the rest any right/left wing influencers making 100's of thousands to millions of dollars and everything they were told that sounds wack a doodle go find a couple sources to verify it or disprove it .. don't just accept everything your told . Think deeply about the motivations of some people giving you information .. if their message is always the same and they are never actually critical of one side of the other they are probably a bad source for information .. if you never hear anything uncomfortable about the people you vote for from the source you get your information from your probably not getting the actual information .. everyone of these politicians has motives and aspirations.. very few may be for the people 100% if would say 1 in a 100 is of a pure heart .. if neither side likes your candidate and they call out both sides of the aisle when they are doing someone elses bidding that's a good start .. if they always vote down party lines and vote against things that would help the place they represent for no good reason besides party lines they don't deserve your vote .. look at all the right of the aisle representatives that voted down the infrastructure and chips act and then used them as a talking point while campaigning saying how "their Congress" got those bills passed and brought jobs and broadband and more money to their district .. it's gross the things these folks do in the name of representing the people .. up and down left and right most are wildly dishonest . Even a single thing like more border patrol .. building barriers in much needed spaces and hiring more judges to get these ASYLUM claims done quicker seems like a no brainer . Which I might add would deter folks from making a. 1 or 2 month trip if they knew their asylum case would take less than 90 days and they wouldn't even get a work permit before it was decided they wouldn't make the trip if they were not eligible to get asylum ... There is so much America could do better and instead of pretending to care these politicians on both sides just need to compromise get the deals done and start fixing problems that have screwed this country up for going on 100 years . Once that happens America won't be taking a chance on a man like Trump he is a birpiduct of our broken system he is vastly incapable of doing the job as we seen in 2019 when he was against the wall . But folks didn't like either option so they went with the devil they know .. the only issue I see is the guard rails are gone so if he does go full blown crazy we just have to hope he has someone there to say hey you can't nuke a whole country because they tweeted out that your fat and smell funny..
Phelinaar@reddit
I hope to God this is copypasta
Ok-Neighborhood8043@reddit
This group removed my post about a Confederate Flag flying across the street from the Alvaredo Courthouse because it "violated Rule #1" not being in the DFW Metroplex. When I replied saying that Johnson County is in fact listed as being acceptable in Rule #1, I received no response and they didn't put it back up.
Surly_Dwarf@reddit
How is this thread relevant to Dallas? This is just people who are from dallas (presumably) arguing politics. Your first instinct was right. I don’t subscribe to this sub for content like this. Please keep the topics actually related to Dallas.
Skinny_Phoenix@reddit
I agree but at some point there's so much engagement, it makes sense to leave it up. If they would've caught it early, I suspect it would've been removed due to rule one. Once there are hundreds of comments it's hard. The mod team would get killed with complaints. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
noncongruent@reddit
Pretty much the case. It also helps get all the miscreants in one place too, lol.
datdouche@reddit
Not a mod implying that a thread is just bait to effectuate bans…
noncongruent@reddit
No, it's just easier to patrol through a single thread than have to dig through a bunch of comment sections. Most of the time we rely on user reports, reddit's a big place after all, but on posts like this with a lot of potential for rule violations, typically rule 2 and 3, we like to actually read through the comments to catch any violations early. One thing a lot of people don't realize that never have been a mod or never gotten gold is that for mods all new comments since the last time through are highlighted, so it make it easy to skip past all the stuff we've already checked and focus on the new comments efficiently. So far there's only been I think three bans here, rule 2 and 3, which given the topic is surprisingly mild.
Adviseformeplz@reddit
Life gets back to 2016-2020?
EasyAd1933@reddit
Well now we tax everyone that bored democrat double to pay for all the illegals they wanted over here. For their housing, healthcare, food etc. You guys were fine with them being here and you guys should be paying for them.
Silly-Reality-5047@reddit
I get to read through all the conspiracy theories about what Trump will do to this country. Just like in 2016. It was the end of the world then, too. I didn't like him. But gosh damn I was financially banging towards the end of his first term. Better than I had ever in my adult life. End of this term, I'm struggling, and the wife and I have been discussing 2nd jobs. We make $30k more per year right now vs 2020 and we have dwindled our savings trying to survive. Again, I don't like Trump. But what matters to me now in 2024 is different than 2016.
SayNoToDrugs69@reddit
He did not just win. He railed that bitch!
OkAdhesiveness3246@reddit
$2 gas, low interest rates, drill baby drill, peace agreements!!!! yay!!!
JEXJJ@reddit
Considering he pushed for the oil production CUTS in 2020 which then caused massive spikes in price when covid restrictions were lifted, I am not sure he is your guy
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Stop the gaslighting. Commiela lost.
Cope harder.
JEXJJ@reddit
source
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
You’re actually trying to argue that a solid agreement for US energy was detrimental?!?! 😂
JEXJJ@reddit
Many domestic operations shut down for years, even after demand returned... How does that help oil workers? OPEC kept the production low for years, causing much of the price spike. You have very short term, simple ideas, and seem to have a very short memory.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
I find it comical that neckbeards like yourself, sit on Reddit and tell people that actually work in certain industries, how well those particular industries are doing.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
No short term memory here. I work in the industry. The economy and O&G were much better during Trump’s term.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
My argument was pertaining to the cost of energy/oils.
Link all the sources you want. It doesn’t change the fact that energy costs were significantly lower under Trump.
envision83@reddit
Gas will never get to 2 dollars a gallon, the president doesn’t control interest rates, we produce more oil then we use, and catering to Russia as they re occupy Eastern Europe one country at a time isn’t “peace agreements”.
omar_strollin@reddit
He’s trying to take control of the Fed to control interest rates which would absolutely destroy the value of the dollar and treasury bonds.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
The dollar has been decimated under the Harris/Biden regime. Their policies allowed BRICS to strengthen, weakening the dollar.
The dollar jumped on news of Trump’s re-election.
omar_strollin@reddit
You realize giving the president the power to control the interest rate would put us on the same level as your average dictator?
You can't just raise or lower the interest rate to suit your campaign. It'll completely destroy the United State's and the world economy.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
When did I say you gave POTUS power to control interest rates? The system is broken. It has been a ticking time bomb since we came off the gold standard.
The PRIVATE Federal Reserve needs to be reigned in, does not equal giving POTUS more authority.
omar_strollin@reddit
Then what's your plan for making it "not private" and we can go from there?
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Brother, the Fed is out of control. They need to be reigned in. I am not claiming to have all the answers. We would go back to a system similar to pre 1913.
I would imagine private clearinghouses would determine short-term liquidity, altering short-term interest rates. While longer-term rates are already largely determined by supply and demand.
omar_strollin@reddit
Who?
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
The dollar would be tied to gold. Who? Any private clearinghouse willing to take the risk. People like money. There will be competition.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Based
david_jason_54321@reddit
As long as your children and grandchildren foot the bill I guess that's fine with you
ProstBitch@reddit
What happened to all the mad shit talking yall were doing the last few weeks?! 😂🤣😂RED WAVE baby!
Cumoverhereplz25@reddit
Cry harder, Libs of Dallas! That’s what happens now
__space__@reddit
Cry harder comments are rich coming from the "it's rigged storm the Capitol" people
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
J6 = Fedsurrection
__space__@reddit
The feds made the proud boys break into the Capitol. I bet they also forced Trump to arrange 7 slates of false electors and pressure pence to use them. Of course.
datdouche@reddit
Lumping us all in with those crazies is why Dems lost.
A lot of us are just normal people who prefer Republican policies over the identity-politics-obsessed left. Reddit,!/which demonizes every R voter, isn’t real life.
I’m also pro-choice (prior to 12-16 weeks), but would never make that the sole issue determining my vote. As someone who didn’t vote Trump in 2020, let’s hope the Democrats have something more than a giant nothingburger in 2028.
call_me_Kote@reddit
What are your preferred trump policies?
__space__@reddit
My guy, if you voted for them after that, you've lumped yourself in, not me. That kind of behavior should be disqualifying for any candidate regardless of party.
Acrobatic-Initial-40@reddit
Ladies be very careful who you befriend and date. These clowns know they are repulsive and hide their faces.
yeahboywin@reddit
Well I gotta get back to work and pay my bills like we all normally do. Yep. Same same ol'.
gt0163c@reddit
While I am disappointed, I'm am not surprised.
I think the thing that bothers me the most is how this election was won; through fear, threats and hate. So I'm going to try to do the opposite and see how that goes. I'm going to try to be kind and gentle, help others as best I can and look for the good. I don't know that this will have major impacts on big things. But I hope it will make my little part of the world a better place.
lukearguin@reddit
You mean how the Kamala team called us all nazis?
BayouGal@reddit
You can just stop with that. Trump has been calling democrats communists, marxists, fascists, socialists, etc. He’s also the person with an unflattering nickname for everyone I.e. Sleepy Joe, Crooked Hillary, Crazy Nancy, Communist Kamala, Little Marco, Meatball Ron, etc.
noncongruent@reddit
Don't forget "losers and suckers" for vets.
Soggybuns123@reddit
Really messed up since the trump team never says heinous things :/ if only everyone could have the tact of trump
gt0163c@reddit
There was fear, threats and hate on both sides. I didn't like any of it. I think we, as humans, can do better. So I'm going to try to do so.
Alexkono@reddit
But the other team also campaigned on hate fear and threats.
Spacepunch33@reddit
It would’ve been through fear either way
locked_in_the_middle@reddit
Trump won Texas by 14 points. Harris won New York State by 12 points.
We are closer to flipping NY red instead of TX blue.
JefaMujer@reddit
Am I proud to be an American today? No.
JefaMujer@reddit
Still not proud.
Maximum-Island-4593@reddit
The economy gets better. 👍
FerdinandBowie@reddit
Tbf kamla seemed more fake than he did..which was weird
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Kamala is a career politician. She’s been fake from the start.
Trump, love him or hate him, is not fake. This is also why people get so triggered with his words.
FerdinandBowie@reddit
Dude he conned you the first time. He conned you again.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
It’s a TV show! Of course it was scripted.
Fact: the economy for everyday Americans was better under Trump than it was under Harris/Biden.
Do you realize people fail in the pursuits of success? Probably not, because you haven’t done anything with your life.
He was given $10m and turned that into $6B. Id say that’s a solid ROI.
BayRunner@reddit
Yes he did. I’m a liberal and I never thought Harris would win despite polling.
Liberals and conservatives had their mind made up long ago. It’s the moderates you have to consider.
Look at the issues important to moderates. Border policy, inflation, etc. None of those issues were good for Democrats regardless of what caused them. Democrats also were running a candidate who (unfairly) was tagged as the border czar. I also am starting to think there is a real backlash at non-abortion social issues with, sadly, LGBT+, because of a poor framing of the issues and how media covers it. Some of my more moderate friends feel it’s getting to be too much.
Democrats have also been leaning heavily on the Hispanic, non-Cuban vote despite cracks showing in that voting block for years.
Democrats, like Republicans, have been running to the extremes for years. Moderates are tired of it. I thought that might have been the one saving grace this election, but in the end, people vote with their pocket books as they say.
QuesoStain2@reddit
Valid take as a moderate. I voted Trump.
BlueGreenOcean21@reddit
Yup. I’m fed up with being told I’m a crazy bigot because I don’t want biological males in women’s sports. It doesn’t make any sense but people can’t even question this without being attacked.
TheShadeMaster@reddit
Why does it matter? How much women’s sports were you watching anyways? Probably none
SlightDumbass@reddit
Same here. My first election, a shitty one. But I fully agree with what they said.
menolike44@reddit
You should be in the DNC! You perfectly summed up the issue!
TalpaPantheraUncia@reddit
I lean a bit more right than center but I'm fairly open minded especially on social issues. The way I frame it to people who ask just compare the 4 years of Trump to Biden (2016 to 2020 and 2020 to 2024). I can almost guarantee that the average working class people like us are worse off. I will concede that the turn of global events are unprecedented but nonetheless we're inadequately addressed arguably by both, no one can say for certain if the Trump administration's policies would have sustained the same economic growth and stability through these last four years.
Frankly, I'm not crazy about either of the incumbents but my gut tells me I'd be $15k richer, the war in Europe would be short-lived if started at all, and we'd have a controlled flow of immigrants coming into this country legally while maintaining border security.
We've spent years building up the rest of the world while our country is burning up in flames and unironically more people hate us now more than ever and since it appears we will be returning to the middle east, we'll not only have more enemies, but they'll be better equipped as well.
SmoothDish5608@reddit
This. I am a moderate myself. I’m sure I’ll get berated by all types of people for saying what I’m about to say. Unfortunately this two party system results in conformation to one set of ideologies. Can’t I believe in the woman’s right to choose, but also desire a strong economy and foreign policy? Everyone assigns different priorities to a candidate’s policy stances. To one person, certain issues may be more important naturally.
The Harris campaign repeatedly alienated moderate voters by stating a vote for trump is a vote against their own loved ones and a morally hateful decision.
Over 71 million people voted for Trump. Several million of those people were moderate. It is honestly just as hateful to label these people mysogonist simply because they don’t vote for the same person you do. Moral arrogance and superiority has driven voters like myself away from the Democratic Party and Harris campaign.
onwingedfeet@reddit
I feel like Dems just keep moving more center, not to the extremes. I can see why moderates would be tired of the sanctimonious attitudes though. I hate my party for allowing the DNC to keep putting up these establishment figureheads for us to vote for.
ItsYaGirlConfusion@reddit
I agree with this sentiments. The main issues are on either two extreme, so middle ground people were conflicted. You know it’s bad when you have to pick between “the lesser of two evils.” (This is not to say in this instance trump is that, but it’s just a general idea). That’s now how you want to chose someone to run your country.
Kind_Scholar4022@reddit
I'm not going to pretend like this country didn't vote for a r*pist over a woman. There's no policy disagreement that excuses that.
cride11@reddit
Well I love being able to say “I told you so.” So guess I will at least have that to look forward to for the rest of my life every time something horrible happens that can be traced back to the results of this election. 🤷🏿♂️
enlightningwhelk@reddit
But unfortunately anytime something bad happens they’re going to say it was residual from the Biden/Harris administration. They’ll never take responsibility.
fvalt05@reddit
Yup even with their clean sweep, they will still blame Democrats
Significant-Pilot892@reddit
And even with another boot in your ass you will continue to claim that the party of welfare is the majority party.
fvalt05@reddit
Who's claiming that?
Significant-Pilot892@reddit
Apology- was a plural "you" saying Dems only blame turnout.
fvalt05@reddit
Well you got the boot part right.
crooke86@reddit
It's a strategy that has worked for Abbott and Cruz for years.
DrPepperEnthusiast02@reddit
Just like how yall do the same thing to Trump, yall just blame him when yall have any inconvenience.
Emotional_Bee_5330@reddit
that literally was just happened the other way around jesus christ
Bootstrap1029@reddit
we will take full responsibility, but only after yall take full responsibility of the complete disaster that has been the last 4 years. this economy is in the gutter because of Biden and harris
extraordinaryevents@reddit
Both parties do this.
Vzninja@reddit
It’s like when Democrats blame the economy on the prior president but when it’s a Republican, they don’t make that argument.
ThatGuy972@reddit
You mean like younlosers have been saying the past 4 years?
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cbrew14@reddit
You're delusional
blonderaider21@reddit
Exactly!!! Downvote away, nerds.
QuesoStain2@reddit
So exactly what Dems been saying during their 4 years in office? Blaming trump for everything
Alexkono@reddit
So whose favorite team is right then?
civilaet@reddit
Yep. Already told my husband this
cherrybeebop@reddit
They're going to suffer right along with everyone else this time around. He promised to get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Let's all enjoy them getting EOBs where insurance is denying every service again for frivolous reasons. But they'll have the God they truly worship...guns. Maybe guns were the solution all along. It'll be interesting to see suicide rates, especially since they're already highest among working class men who own guns. The women in their families will die too because they can't get medically necessary abortions. They will feel the pressure of a failing economy when he implements mass deportation which will destroy manufacturing and agriculture. These folks don't have the intellectual capacity to think critically about these issues with the future in mind, so they'll have to learn by experiencing it first hand.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
Think of how great it will be when a huge mass of people decides to homeschool their kids! "Time for math class kids! Ok so today's lesson is about how God created the world in 7 days"
cherrybeebop@reddit
Hahahaha...you joke but this is exactly the plan. Enrich the wealthy, the corporations, while creating an even less educated working class that will follow no questions asked and make them believe that minorities are keeping them poor while they enjoy watching them do their bidding. Trump did exactly this on Jan. 6th. Sat back and watched people beat the police officers, some to death all for a lie.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
Oh trust me, I'm right there with you on this train of thought. We're going to be the dumbest possible version of America in about 20 years.
Accurate_Fill4831@reddit
I think we are already there. Did not take 20 years, just 8.
GroundedTexan@reddit
You claim we don’t have the mental capacity to think critically why your post is filled with lies?
cherrybeebop@reddit
Sir, everything is said above is a verifiable fact. You can read for yourself. There are multiple reputable sources you can seek.
GroundedTexan@reddit
Show me one source where he says he’s going to get rid of SS. That’s been a leftist talking point since before I was born. Show me one source where he says he’s going to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.
Trump has stated he wants to expand access to IVF and possibly have it paid for.
Deporting criminal aliens =/= deporting immigrants. There’s a difference.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Definitely not just deporting criminals. Most cases of deportation are like this one.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2018/03/12/a-beloved-restaurant-owner-was-deported-his-indiana-town-got-over-it/
GroundedTexan@reddit
Yes, just criminal aliens. Those that enter illegally are by definition criminal aliens.
noncongruent@reddit
Most immigrants here without documentation entered legally on a visa, but the visa expired and they became undocumented. This is actually not a crime. Crossing the border illegally is a crime, but after what we did to the Jews during the Holocaust the civilized nations agreed to make it legal to seek refuge in other countries. We even signed legally binding treaties agreeing to this. If someone in this country without documentation, regardless of how they got here, asks for asylum we as a nation are legally obligated to provide them due process to make their asylum case.
BTW, "Ted" Cruz's father Rafael got into American this way. His student visa was revoked and he was here without documentation, so instead of going back to Cuba as the law required and to avoid being deported as he should have been he instead applied for asylum. He eventually turned that into a green card, though he waited forty more years before bothering to become a naturalized citizen.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
So the children? The children are alien criminals? The children who ended up born and raised in America, who can't even speak Spanish only English, and have never been to/been back to Mexico. After Trump struck down DACA there were thousands of Hispanic children BORN and raised in America who had no experience with Mexico throughout their whole life, who were stripped of their college educations here, and sent to a country they have no knowledge of and can't speak the language. I'd but money you don't give a shit just bc that didn't effect you, or you'll say it just didn't happen.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Entering as a child does not make you a criminal.
noncongruent@reddit
I would not put it past Trump to revoke the citizenship of those children, leaving them stateless and forever unable to return to the country of their birth.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Trump also claimed to be "the father" of IVF but I believe Republican actions speak louder.
https://missouriindependent.com/2024/06/13/u-s-senate-republicans-reject-democrats-bill-on-ivf-protections/
GroundedTexan@reddit
Republicans in Missouri is not Trump.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Did you read? It's about the US Senate voting against a bill to protect IVF. The article is from a publication based in Missouri.
GroundedTexan@reddit
Ok, that still doesn’t help support what you said. The US senate is not Trump. The op’s post is about what Trump would do.
cherrybeebop@reddit
If you've paid any attention, they follow every command he makes. He's saying one thing to the camera, but what he actually wanted is what they enacted with that vote. It's very plain.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Plans to dismantle the Department of Education - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-push-dismantle-education-department-gets-momentum-house-gop
cherrybeebop@reddit
He said out of his own mouth that he wants to cut SS entitlements and Medicare. It won't allow me to link the video.
LuckyAmeliza@reddit
Funny, since those are things Trump has stated himself. Literally just repeating the words from his mouth, and yet... Lies. Okie dokie 👌
GroundedTexan@reddit
Literally didn’t happen. Y’all can keep making stuff up all you want. That will never make it true, and last nights results show that y’all are in the minority and that we’re sick of the lefts lies.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
Lmao look in a mirror buddy.
Valued_Rug@reddit
My best old buddy tried to tell me the same thing this morning. It really is amazing to me how many people in this country, like you, have no fucking clue what he is planning to do, and are CHEERING for it. Easily verifiable that he plans to gut the entire safety net and dept of education, as well as many other things! Good Luck!
iLLa_SkriLLa@reddit
By dissolving the dept of edu, the funds would go direct to the states. This prevents the federal bloat thats been siphoning the allocation of funds due to federal misspending.
cherrybeebop@reddit
The funds will go to the military. Are you new here? And since when do the states look out for education? I've lived in 5 southern red states, and THEY ALL cut from education first. If you don't live in a Democratic state (states with the highest public education rankings), you're in an unfortunate situation.
ViolaFields@reddit
I don't know your news sources but Trump is not ending social security and medicare and he is fully on record in supporting IVF.
cherrybeebop@reddit
The Supreme Court justices he appointed Saudi under oath that Roe was settled law. Then they overturned it. Trump said he supported IVF, then Republicans in Congress voted against protections for IVF. This isn't rocket science, folks. He's paying lip service, but the actions of the people he controls prove otherwise.
Snap_Grackle_Poptart@reddit
Oh, well, if Trump said that, there's no way it wouldn't be true.
miiintyyyy@reddit
Exactly this.
Katy_moxie@reddit
Yeah, not much hope in the state picking up the slack.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
Not to put this energy out there but,,, 3rd times the charm. Thats all I'll say.
cherrybeebop@reddit
I'm intrigued, lol. What do you mean?
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
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cherrybeebop@reddit
Hmmmmm, but Vance is not much better. His eyeliner is nice, and we love a man confident enough to accentuate his baby blues bit he's an awful human being. He has a very long history of crazy podcast interviews as evidence.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
God, Vance is truly a lifeless sentient worm, thank you for reminding me of our second choice 😮💨 fcking cartoon villains
cherrybeebop@reddit
Well, one thing we know the next 4 years will be entertaining. Vance relating to other humans the best way he knows how (like a robot). And Trump tweeting insanity 40 times a day between naps.
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Forsaken-nurse617@reddit
Yep, been able to do that for the last four miserable years, back to being part of the winning team!🇺🇸
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
So what will you say when he cuts tax rates, gas, cost of goods and you make more in the next 4 years then you did in the last?
ThrowawayAg16@reddit
He campaigned on increasing taxes this time?
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
No opposite cutting FIT, eliminating tax on OT and tips. Helping the working class.
ThrowawayAg16@reddit
But then also said he wanted to add a 20% tariff/import tax on everything that would spike inflation and hurt our ability to exports goods at the same time.
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
Or shockingly move jobs to America…. And with taxes I have no choice but to pay them. With goods I have a choice on what to buy.
ThrowawayAg16@reddit
It may, though hurting our exports will hurt jobs too.
But that’s exactly what I meant by spike inflation… either it’s 20% more expensive to buy your normal goods because of the import taxes, or you pay more for it to be made here (which will take years to actually do), and you don’t actually have a choice either way - you’re going to pay for the import taxes on essential goods just like any other sales tax.
We as a country don’t have the labor resources or production lines set up to manufacture everything in the US. Even if manufacturing were to move back to the US, you’re going to pay the import taxes anyways because we don’t have many of the necessary raw material resources in the US.
Targeted tariffs are a good thing, but blanket tariffs will destroy our economy. Hopefully they’ll change their minds once in office though and you won’t have to find out.
Real-Excitement-1929@reddit
When he doesn't understand tariffs. You are exactly the kind of idiot this man counts on.
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
Well not the only idiot then he won the popular vote too. Don’t be bitter it isn’t a “smart” look ;)
acidtriptothemoon@reddit
"helping" hahahahahaha
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
How would that not help? Every poll this election shows the working class voted for Trump.
Walter_Padick@reddit
None of that is going to happen
DFWFunGuy12@reddit
Cool so when it does feel free to send me your savings.
mag0802@reddit
Yeah that’s not gonna happen
littlemachina@reddit
That’s what I said too. If nothing bad happens, great! If bad things happen as a result of his policies, I will indulge myself a bit. But that would require bad things happening to all of us and not just the marginalized which is what the people who voted for him wanted anyway.
fbc546@reddit
Lmao I know that feeling very well when I’ve been “telling” Reddit how terrible of a candidate Kamala was but I was just called a fascist. “I told you so” feels good.
MysticKnight2110@reddit
Well let’s hope another pandemic doesn’t happen so we can fix his bad economy faster after he leaves office.
Rolex1881@reddit
No
https://www.sanfranchronicle.com/kamala-harris-hospitalized-day-of-election-jblmnt
Hour-Needleworker598@reddit
Yep. Next.
Shage111YO@reddit
Something needs to change to bring the 200 million non-voters to the ballots
QuesoStain2@reddit
Turns out calling half the US racist nazis doesn’t bode well come election day.
DarkL1ghtn1ng@reddit
No one said half of Americans were racist Nazis. But half of them did vote *with* racist Nazis. So make of that what you will.
QuesoStain2@reddit
When you equate a rally to a Nazi rally, thats what you are doing. Reddit can’t comprehend it tho. Echo chamber mentality
DarkL1ghtn1ng@reddit
If you are talking about the MSG rally, isn't the comparison...obvious?
QuesoStain2@reddit
Because he had a rally at MSG? It automatically makes is a Nazi rally? Come on
No-South-7463@reddit
At what point is it ok to call trump a nazi? The man is using hitlers ideology word for word. Hitler blamed the jews for their economic issues, trump blames illegal immigrants, hitler claimed germany is a ruin with its people living day to day ,trump claims the U.S is a ruin as well. I can go on and on, but at the end of the day trump is using the same fascist language as hitler. He could have ran a diffrent campaign,but he choose to be a fascist because of fools like you who cant realize the context of our situation and would rather blame a group than accept the situation for what it is, greedy men wanting to get rid of you to feed their needs.
QuesoStain2@reddit
Cry some more my god. He is not a Nazi nor Hitler. Touch grass and get mental help.
No-South-7463@reddit
🤣🤣 keep proving my point lol. Instead of replying to what i said you divert to something else. Just admitt you dont give a fuck, its ok to not care.
QuesoStain2@reddit
Once we have concentration camps and kill 6mil immigrants then we can talk about the Hitler comparisons big guy. Spoiler alert it wont happen and overall not much will change. Carry on.
No-South-7463@reddit
Hitler wasnt just concentration camps, he limit the rights of people, literally tried to over throw his goverment when he didnt get his way, abused women, murdered political rivals,etc...My point is not that trump is hitler, my point is that he uses nazi ideolgy to justify his nomanition and half of the United states went " ok sure, where do i sign?" You dont see the problem there?
In other terms, If i choose to follow jesus and the bible, does that make me god? Of course not, but it does make me a christian.
DarkL1ghtn1ng@reddit
I think the content of the rally is the thing but whatever. My point remains, if you are voting for the same people as the actual Nazis, the David Dukes and so on, I think you should ask yourself why that is.
vividbiviv@reddit
His father was in the KKK but he definitely wasn’t raised with any of those views…
Formal-Cry7565@reddit
Cry while common sense corrects everything.
croidrules@reddit
Can’t wait for lower gas prices and a better economy. My truck is thirsty asf.
Trougius@reddit
Sure did. And everyone is losing their minds
menolike44@reddit
RemindMe! 4years
Local_Seaworthiness9@reddit
Some really soft people in these subs
PalpateMe@reddit
Lower inflation, lower cost of living, higher s&p annual returns, lower unemployment, lower illegal immigration and spending, lower involvement and funding in foreign wars if we’re going off track record.
some_onions@reddit
If you had a brain, then you would see the pattern. But you don't have one.
OAttention@reddit
Did you all just miss the tariffs part? Go read how that have cause MORE inflation throughout history.
Away-Quote-408@reddit
It’s like when you get second chance to do the things you never got around to the first time, and also the stuff you only thought of afterwards. But with so much more resources (Red everything) and new tools (immunity from prosecution). Obviously I’m thinking of myself and other marginalized groups, but I can’t help to think about how it’s gonna affect the poor and even middle class people that voted for him, thinking it will uplift them financially. We already know to expect the worst but that feeling when your eyes open and you realize your miscalculation, and your responsibility in it. I’m sorry for everyone and no, despite people saying “community” etc., the fact is I live in a place he won easily. Basically everyone I know and am around on a daily basis voted for him. I’m saving myself and my child.
Slow-Switch8412@reddit
i am personally liquidating my assets and opening a brothel in Spain
bandzlvr@reddit
If you open it I'll come work lmao
Slow-Switch8412@reddit
It has strict abuse laws towards sex workers. it's 100% lega there, legalized Marijuana, and affordable beach property. I'm thinking of liquidating assets buying a hotel.
bandzlvr@reddit
Nice plan so far
Slow-Switch8412@reddit
You can get a 10 bedroom 11 bath for around 650k
Forsaken-nurse617@reddit
Bubye.
Large-Vacation9183@reddit
This just sounds like a good idea no matter what’s going on in the world
Forsaken-nurse617@reddit
Just like all the crybabies blamed DJT for EVERYTHING.
SadisticFvckedup@reddit
It pains me to see how much the party of love and acceptance hates their fellow men and women. Just over a decision between 2 candidates that disagree. I don't hate you, I only pity you. You believe all the lies the media tells you and demonize its victims all for the actions of a few. Sad
woundedhealer92@reddit
Moved back to Chicago from DFW just in time… thank God. I feel sorry for ya’ll down in TX, it’s a lot better here… for now at least At least the weather is significantly less hot, we get more rain, the grass is so much greener (literally), we get REAL snow, we have Lake Michigan, AND most people here are pretty educated and logical. We actually have tax money that is put into caring for our land. Abortion is legal here. Weed is legal. Canada is a short drive away too in case things reallyyy go to shit everywhere. Seriously praying for ya’ll down there who didn’t want any part of this.
supertexx@reddit
Thank goodness.
Own_Kaleidoscope5512@reddit
Go to work? Do exactly what you did yesterday?
SadisticFvckedup@reddit
America is finally safe, for four more years. Hopefully Vance will run for the next eight.
VendettaKarma@reddit
Yes
BaffinSailor0@reddit
YES!
Most_Promise8638@reddit
So insane that people are at the point of normalizing gender therapy for minors lol I hope no one wonders why he won by a mile.
samie4g@reddit
Breathe easy my friend. You live in the best country on earth. No matter who our leader is, we’re all Americans.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Can someone bold this crap
people don’t realize they could’ve been born in a slum in India or in northern Mongolia and yet they sit here and cry because their lives are not utterly perfect and the world does not bend to their will
You live in the greatest country on earth
call_me_Kote@reddit
What other countries have you lived in/visited?
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Every single country in the EU lol I was born there. multiple countries in the Caribbean, South America and southeast Asia the only places I haven’t hit or Africa, Antarctica, Canada, and Russia
bigdickedbat@reddit
Hope your papers are up to date…
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Military kid. Natural born us citizen. Born on base
bigdickedbat@reddit
Hopefully your veteran parent doesn’t use any government benefits.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Go cry about it. No one here gives a shit what you have to think.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Cope harder.
Nobody is cutting benefits to veterans.
call_me_Kote@reddit
Every single EU country? Sure pal.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Brother does not realize how easy it is to get around the EU
Especially when you live there for nine years
call_me_Kote@reddit
Oh, so you visited every EU country via your parents from 0-9, and that means you know America is better than all of them?
Alexkono@reddit
Yep
umbrellarainnn@reddit
You must of never traveled or been to Europe.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Lol, I was born there… and lived there
Alexkono@reddit
Exactly
FoundingFeathers@reddit
If you liked Tim Walz you night want to look into North Texas DSA. Now, Tim Walz is no socalist. DSA stands for Democratic Socalists Of America. I just give leeway that a Liberal who really liked Tim Walz or, even better, Bernie. Might find purpose working with the grassroots REAL base of the left in America.
It is still early to call exactly "what happened" in totality, but one thing is clear. Economic anxiety won the day, and rightly so. Is Trump a better answer? No. But it is PAINFULLY clear. The current Democrat strategy for America is a failure. Populism is not a dirty word on it's own. If you are a "regular liberal" and actually care about what should/could be done. It is time to start looking into being part of an organization dedicated to addressing the economic anxiety that has BEEN stated by the American People for years.
Modi508@reddit
You still live in the freest country in the world during the best time to be alive in human history. Your connections with your family and community will contribute more to your personal happiness than politics.
ASignificantPen@reddit
Actually not the freest country. But still pretty far up there.
ryoon21@reddit
Not when your family makes being a Trump supporter their identity.
GuyAWESOME2337@reddit
You go about your life as normal
DirtMcgirt0034@reddit
Yep 👍
Kev-O_20@reddit
Wake up and go to work like every other day.
ProduceGlass6425@reddit
Nothing has changed yet. The only thing people found out was that the democrats are on the wrong side of history. Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college, and the people have spoken loud and clear. We are tired of the woke bs and them trying to burn this country to the ground. Also, side note. It's funny how Trump got 3 million fewer votes this time, but Harris got 15 million fewer votes than 2020. I wonder how that happened.......
Rogue_Earth@reddit
Surprised?
agent_x_75228@reddit
Now we can stop the dogmatic, cultish politics for another 3 1/2 years or so, get back to some level of normalcy and wait to see what the new sitting president does. Life goes on.
Dizzy_Nebula2734@reddit
Did he win?
Ok_Drive4205@reddit
The Cowboys will still suck on Sundays
RealisticLength8888@reddit
No he kicked ass
nochoaveragecouple@reddit
When dems start fear mongering like the right does, we won't win
babyvs@reddit
Is it fear mongering when we are genuinely fearful for our livelihoods? Me and my partner are a queer couple, my entire inner circle is all made up of queer people. We don’t know what could happen. I am disabled, too. What rights we did have might just be ripped from under us.
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Nobody is coming for the queers or any LGBTQ. We may believe the lifestyle to be sinful, but we only want good for you. How you choose to live your life is your decision. God gave you free will.
The red line is that we don’t want this behavior pushed on the kids. This is being done with books like ‘lawn boy’ in school libraries.
InterestingFactor825@reddit
Russia will take over Ukraine when USA pulls its support and move on to other Balkan states and possibly Poland resulting in a massive humanitarian crisis in Europe.
noncongruent@reddit
We did this dance in the 1930s when Hitler was doing what Putin's trying to do now. The difference between then and now is Putin has nukes, so he'll be successful.
imnotreallyheretoday@reddit
You go on living your life like you do every other day
DooDooTyphoon@reddit
I think many people of all different walks of life and political sides are going to be thinking long and hard about their decisions over the past decade.
BillsMafios0@reddit
He cheated, just ain’t been caught yet.
miketag8337@reddit
Hopefully a good economy and no war. We will see. Ignore his tweets after 10 PM
Few_Elderberry_5012@reddit
Yes
Spacewizard9999@reddit
😂
Zoll999@reddit
Of course. I knew he would based on how fake Kamala was. Elections are about human behavior, not politics. You might hate him but Trump is Trump. Plus 2016-2020 was great and everyone remembers that.
pamalamTX@reddit
I don't know if our country will ever be the same after this. I guess I mean our government and what we know as our system. I just don't know. We get what we deserve, I guess. I feel empty, but I soldier on and will try not to fall into a pit.
Bama-Ram@reddit
Hopefully the country will not be the same! That’s why Trump won.
TakeATrainOrBusFFS@reddit
Good attitude. Local civics has a place for you.
Practical-Face7741@reddit
America Votes Convicted Felon Into the White House
Praying for our country. 🙏 It's going to be a long 4 years.
cbrew14@reddit
Assuming it even stops at 4 years
tATuParagate@reddit
I keep hearing stuff about him just removing the term limit, is stuff like that even possible? He's said stuff like if you vote for me, you'll never have to vote again, which I think is very insane cause that's dictator behavior. It's more insane that people look past his thousands of red flags and can just vote for him with a clear conscience when he offers nothing that isn't motivated by greed or hatred. This country is such a shithole
LordShesho@reddit
Is it possible? Of course it is. There weren't any limits 80 years ago. Biden was alive when FDR was in his 4th term as president, so it's not like it's ancient history.
tATuParagate@reddit
That fucking sucks cause the only silver lining I could find is that his term will eventually end 😮💨
LordShesho@reddit
Take heart that they would have to repeat the 22nd amendment, and that would be no small task. So, unless he overthrows the entire government, he will likely leave office in 2029.
noncongruent@reddit
He can ignore the Constitution. His followers would absolutely back that play 100%, and that includes his followers in the Legislative and Judicial branches, all the way up to SCOTUS. In the end the Constitution is just an old piece of paper, the only value it has is the value that people give it in their minds. Enough people decide it's not important and it becomes just another piece of old paper that burns on the trash heap of history.
tATuParagate@reddit
Yayyy 🫶
noncongruent@reddit
In a functioning democracy where the different branches of government can act as checks against power it wouldn't be possible. For instance, Trump could just declare himself president for life, which would be completely illegal and unconstitutional. The legislative branch would seek to impeach him, that would be the House in the US Congress, then the Senate would hold the impeachment trial, and upon conviction the Senate would have him removed. SCOTUS would preside over the Senate trial and would issue the legal orders removing him from office. This is sort of how a criminal trial works, impeachment is the indictment and the Senate trial is like the criminal trial, then the trial judge orders the convicted person to be taken into custody.
What happens if the person on trial bought the prosecution and enough jurors to ensure he couldn't get convicted? And for good measure the judge is his best friend so no matter what the jury says the judge is going to declare the defendant innocent? That's basically where we are now. Republicans in the House and Senate are personally loyal to Trump over their sworn oath to the Constitution, and SCOTUS has basically been giving Trump all the power he can reach for, as well as running interference against the previous impeachments.
So in the end, if Trump violates the Constitution and there's nobody able to do anything about it legally, then he succeeds. Will he? Absolutely. He's never shown any particular loyalty to America or the Constitution, his only loyalty has ever been to himself. In his view people only fall into three categories, those that are useful to him, those that he's indifferent two, and those he sees as enemies. Near as I can tell most of his family falls into these categories as well.
cbrew14@reddit
Laws only work if they are enforced. If every branch of government is filled with Trumps loyalists? Who knows
CaffeinateMeCapn@reddit
It won't, even if he is unsuccessful at removing term limits. The horrendous SCOTUS decisions happened under Biden, because Trump got to appoint 3 justices (with no term limit) in his last 4-year term. We shall see how many he appoints during this term. He gets to change the rules that everyone else has to play by, or else they might look authoritarian.
Rygards@reddit
Name calling really did wonders for the Dems. Keep beating that horse for the next 4 years.
Alexkono@reddit
Lol the fear porn
AmericanHipponaut@reddit
George Washington was a felon - A hero.
Dcmart89@reddit
Violence. That’s what’s next. The thing that will personally affect all of us the most is how violent his rhetoric is. It will be violent on a domestic and international scale. You’ll eventually know someone personally, or you personally, will be affected by it. This isn’t the type of candidate, nor base of followers, that believes in anything but violence against those who do not agree with them. Get red or get dead.
DKDanny@reddit
Yeah your opinion does not reflect reality. Take a breath.
_Pen15__@reddit
He'll be president for four years, and then a new president will be voted in. Don't listen to people who are fear mongering. People freaking out tend to forget he's been president before and nothing like what they said would happen.
paleface972@reddit
Remind anyone of Germany in the 30s right before they started rounding up the undesirables and putting them in camps. I'm gonna be one of loudest and most undesirable before I let that slumlord treat me like he has everyone else he has screwed over in history. Waiting to hear that drumline of someone who knows how to at least hold the steal this time music to my ears....
paleface972@reddit
I I know this probably offends some and others think I'm just so cruel but how many people were quiet at the beginning of the Holocaust. Not me I'm a true patriot I refuse to go quietly as he tries to ink my arm with the same Pen he writes Putin with .I'm a white Catholic but to me another white racist,NnY slumlord who has ruined every business he ever has had until bankrupt and now with 34 felonies and still president. I'm saddened to think this is best president we could of picked . Reagan and W now are not the worst we could of done after all. Count the votes twice and then double check again he is a lying fraudster cheater guilty in America's court not just everyone's eyes. I had really hoped America had gotten past their raccist,bigoted ways I don't know about you but racist will not replace me in the year 2024 let's make racist scared once again then America might be able to start getting better but I will not say good again cuz as I see it throughout history America has been a lot of things good maybe a murdering the original people who were here and stealing and lying wait then again that's why we elected Trump who else knows how to do any of those things better than him he knows a lot of things but no one knows more about lying stealing and cheating then Donald Trump.. I know this will probably be blocked and I'll probably be banned but like I said at the very beginning I refuse to go to the camps quietly and he will never put ink on my arm I have my number it's 1312
Opposite-Bad1444@reddit
as a canadian, nothing changes. this is why i moved here, because i don’t like canada.
if i wanted kamala policies id just go back to canada, or if i wanted kamala policies in a different flavor maybe Uk or australia
RonBurgundy1981@reddit
Live your normal life and enjoy it, the only person in charge of your happiness and attitude is yourself.
Dan007a@reddit
Probably going to leave Texas once I get my masters degree come summer.
tdmutch@reddit
You do the same thing we did for the last 4 years. You sit back and bitch about it.
Except the difference is your bitching will be unwarranted, where ours had factual grounding.
KoldKore@reddit
Well.. Kamala did not win because she's not a genuine person and flip flopped on all of her policies just to try and win.
Let's see how Donald does. He's been president before and everyone here on Reddit that hates him is still here lol
TheCoDogg29@reddit
Lol Y’all act like he didn’t win in ‘16. Guess what you were better off for those 4 years than in the past 4 years. Grow the fuck up.
d4ddyLngLegz@reddit
Is everyone forgetting how this ties into the New world order and plan for humanity’s future as a whole? Digital currency? Mass genocide so we can actually sustain life on this planet without destroying it. One world government. This is a small step on a long road ahead. We are pawns.
KillerOkie@reddit
Hope for the future of the American middle class and the chance my 10yo son won't be drafted into a future foreign war.
bassdeface@reddit
Yea because how many wars did Trump start in his last term? That's right exactly ZERO. STFU.
KillerOkie@reddit
You have grossly misread my comment LOL.
bassdeface@reddit
Ahh got it. Sorry. -)
GroundedTexan@reddit
With Trump winning that’s a lot less likely now.
Alexkono@reddit
Lol how much would you like to wager that we don’t instill a draft in the next 4 years?
RBUL13@reddit
Harris got BODIED
d4ddyLngLegz@reddit
Is everyone forgetting how this ties into the New world order and plan for humanity’s future as a whole? Digital currency? Mass genocide so we can actually sustain life on this planet without destroying it. One world government. This is a small step on a long road ahead. We are pawns.
InitialCoda@reddit
Can you believe there’s that many NAZIS in this country!
/s
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Yes absolutely can believe it. The DNA 🧬 of this country was built on hatred and racism.
InitialCoda@reddit
Thanks for your ridiculously cringy NPC opinion.
Alexkono@reddit
Lol seriously
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
We put a guy that steals women's clothes from the airport in charge of storing the nuclear waste, can you believe that?
InitialCoda@reddit
Dude looked like he was birthed from a nuclear waste pit.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
Nah, he's just Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen, that's all.
Hazelnutnole@reddit
Yall could really benefit from just a teensy bit of research.
Substantial-Put1298@reddit
Trump campaigned for four years and got 51% of the votes. Harrison campaigned for 100 days and got 49%.
NonchalantSavant@reddit
Supreme Court justices Thomas (76) and Alito (74) are likely going to be making appointments with their retirement planners sometime within the next 4 years.
rimora@reddit
I doubt it. These old fucks cling to power until their last dying breath. They'll never willingly give it up.
Slipery-biscuit@reddit
TRUMP IS BACK BABY
qp-W_W_W_W-qp@reddit
Kamala’s campaign funding will dry up and stop spamming all the state subreddits
Mind_Ronin@reddit
In this way, we all win.
FruityPebblesBinger@reddit
I'm a Harris voter, but the shills have been out of control here lately. Silver lining, I guess.
peachole@reddit
Fr i was so tired and sick of all those bs posts
roygerbill@reddit
YOU COPE A SEETH🤣🤣🤣
azwethinkweizm@reddit
The bigger story in Dallas is voters passing props S & U after nearly every elected Democrat in the city attended that press conference telling us to reject S, T, and U.
Alternative_Drama900@reddit
People are getting smart
Spacepunch33@reddit
You mean people thought for themselves instead of just being told what to do?
ArchReaper@reddit
Ah yes, the people that fell for the ploy by the California billionaire are clearly the ones that thought for themselves.
Spacepunch33@reddit
Or maybe they just agreed, dude. Be an ass all you want, it’s not gonna change the results: Kamala Harris might’ve been the Dems least popular candidate ever
ArchReaper@reddit
What does Kamala have to do with independent thinking about props S, T, and U?
Spacepunch33@reddit
Oh my b, I’m having a few convos with whiny undertones
My point is, I think just telling people “Vote no” without explaining why and treating people who were asking questions as stupid was not a good move
Alexkono@reddit
Exactly. But hilarious how Reddit downvoted you.
Heavy_Tofu@reddit
Well... Many of my friends and I will most likely lose our basic rights, considering they've been collecting information on people who have changed their gender marker. They'll try their best to ruin people's lives and prevent certain people's private care more so than they already have...
A lot of queers in the community are in panic, we are planning, we are holding our children closer than ever. It'll be slow at first and most people probably won't notice until it's already happened.
metafedora@reddit
If you’re non-white, a woman, poor, non-“christian”, LGBTQ+ or someone who values a functioning government, the environment, the value of the US dollar, workers rights, civility amongst your fellow citizens or free and fair elections… you’ve got a bit of a problem.
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Lol got a Democrat yelling about how it wasn’t fair or free
Here we go people
metafedora@reddit
I never said it wasn't fair or free.
Americans chose this path, and they will get what's coming.
strog91@reddit
“Russia hacked the election” Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
d4ddyLngLegz@reddit
Yay for white male privilege! I was scared I was going to have to actually work just as hard as my minority counterparts. All hail trump
RubAnADUB@reddit
I guess America will be Great Again ?
Illustrious-Host-987@reddit
Despite all the Reddit censorship and hiveminds; America has spoken
staceyann1573@reddit
The media doesn’t like Trump, but the people love him
armyoftanks@reddit
Who dat
WeevilZ06@reddit
Getting ready to watch the liberal mental breakdowns , the View could be a good start
Impressive-Motor-291@reddit
Just like January 6th?
Camwiz59@reddit
A Unarmed insurrection , sure If it had been real , they would still be cleaning it up
Impressive-Motor-291@reddit
What do you mean if it had been real
Camwiz59@reddit
Go get your Covid booster shot , you should be fine
Dallas-ModTeam@reddit
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Impressive-Motor-291@reddit
lol ok just avoid my question
Camwiz59@reddit
What question, what kind of insurrection would occur with a unarmed group , the answer is none
Impressive-Motor-291@reddit
6 people died, 174 police officers were assaulted, $30 million lost in repairs and vandalis
Camwiz59@reddit
Go back to and look again, one shot by capitol police , one to a drug overdose, three to natural causes and a officer from a assault, planned to keep the newly elected president from being able to run again Brilliant
mawashi-geri24@reddit
Trump won :)
mymar101@reddit
I'm considering packing my bags and leaving the US. This is not the country I was born in.
ApeChesty@reddit
I don’t know about you but nothing in my day is any different than it would’ve been had Harris won.
CinomedTweak@reddit
Buckle up, use any privilege you have to protect/help those that don't.
Who knows, maybe the GOP with push Project 2025 so hard that people realize mistakes were made....
Sakainu@reddit
What’s that mean for civil rights? I’m a PoC and I’m super worried.
MxSephie@reddit
Nothing changes about our job in all this. Fight the things that need to be fought, help the people who need to be helped, foster strong communities and help each other out. Everything you should have been doing yesterday, you should still do today.
hiirogen@reddit
We survived the first Trump presidency. We’ll survive this one too.
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Only thing I don’t understand is Americans removing a 70-80 year old president bc of his mental capacity replacing the position with another 70-80 year old
Lmao 🤣 how dumb can we as American citizens be? Do you think another 70-80 year old is just as mentally fit ? Especially one who has it in their family (his dad had it), and he isn’t in the best physical shape already.
SMH 🤦🏽♀️ no common sense whatsoever.
In addition to the first term wasn’t favorable. He re-allocated money from FEMA Disaster Relief fund to customs border patrol for the wall that was never built. That money is for American citizens during disasters and it’s taxpayers money but was reallocated from his order for a wall and immigration camps.
Then he enacted a tax plan that we felt that affects after he was out of office that’s his tax plan not Biden.
He presidentially declared COVID a national disaster enacting all federal services which caused hella fraud, waste, and abuse. So we are in a deficit from COVID alone on the federal level. Like smh 🤦🏽♀️ nobody understands civics, government, and how it all works I’m convinced folks just like hate, anger, gossip, and racism.
I truly watched and listened for the plan for immigration, the plan to better things be had none. He kept saying he would hire extraordinary ppl. Lmao what
God Bless America tho and hopefully his mind stays fit during this term.
Jyin475@reddit
Welcome to idiocracy it wasn’t just a movie
RequirementIll8141@reddit
I need to check it out never saw it lol thanks ima check it out today.
GroovyGramPam@reddit
It’s a lot scarier to watch now than when it came out. Because it’s coming true.
Spacepunch33@reddit
“It’s like a DoCuMeNtARy”
individual0@reddit
If someone does a good job. Why not keep them around?
soonerfreak@reddit
Removing Biden wasn't just age, his admin was historically unpopular. That initial boost for Harris was heavily based on the idea she would break with him. But she only broke with him to go even further right so the excitement dried up. 18 million fewer people voted this time, that's a problem on the campgain.
tATuParagate@reddit
We all watched that kamala debate where he just spewed nonsense. I just don't know what goes through the head of a trump voter after watching the debates and experiencing what we've been experiencing for the past 8 years. He didn't meet his promises last term, then we voted him out, so why the huge turnaround again? And why does it seem like way more gays and latinos were voting for him this time? Makes no goddamn sense
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Exactly I agree with you 100% How do you watch that debate and say yep this the guy lol 😂
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Crying helps
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Cry about it for what?
Alexkono@reddit
Cry
RequirementIll8141@reddit
I’m not upset about it - for me I don’t understand the logic. Nothing to cry about I will continue to live my life as such.
I don’t understand the logic of disliking a sitting president for mental capacity due to his age 70-80s then replacing him with mentally unstable same thing age 70-80. It makes no sense lmao 🤣 majority of Americans can’t read passed middle school so there is that
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Well, people don’t all get dementia and they don’t all get dementia at the same time so even though they’re very similar in age, one of them has dementia the other one does not it’s pretty simple
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Trump dad had it it’s more than likely he is having signs of it. You could tell from the debates and certain interviews. If you couldn’t tell you never been around someone with early signs of dementia or Alzheimer’s. Him even mentioning World War II like huh man ?
Like I said in my other post God Bless America and his mental capacity during this term
Accordingly_Onion69@reddit
Live life and hope for the best whatever happens next
No_Brief_5319@reddit
Won huge
BOOM_Shooka_Luka@reddit
I guess it's time to go back to getting angry, confused, and disappointed every day for the next several years...
I can't for the life of me figure out why hate and ignorance wins. There's just to many hateful and stupid people out there
QuesoStain2@reddit
You mean calling half the country racist and nazis isnt hate? Come on, she ran a garbage campaign.
CaffeinateMeCapn@reddit
Is it hateful to disavow hatred?
I don't say that as a Kamala fan. I say that as a human being who wishes to defend my fellow human beings who are under fire for who they are.
QuesoStain2@reddit
Who is under fire?
CaffeinateMeCapn@reddit
Women (Dobbs decision, stated intention to revive the Comstock act), LGBT individuals (primarily trans people per the rhetoric and project 2025, but Thomas has implicated Obergefell v Hodges decision too), immigrants (undoing DACA and removing asylum status, plus mass deportation is going to decimate families and entire communities and will require Gestapo tactics), people who don't support Trump (he has literally denied disaster funding to areas that didn't vote for him).
If I'm leaving anyone else out, I apologize.
Severe_Islexdia@reddit
We keep going as we do any other time.
At the end of the day people may not like the team they’re on and that can be remedied if any individual chooses to do so, but the fact is as long as I’m I was born and raised in the US country, I put the people in it above everything else whether I like you or your not- or your opinion or not, whether I agree with you or not.
I can hate the QB and still block for him, as the team doesn’t belong to him it belongs to all of us. And we will either come together for America or die as a group of individuals
Yotafanboi77@reddit
MAGA LIVES!!!
StuckAtZer0@reddit
We're back to making America great again!!! Woo hoo!
2ndlifegifted@reddit
Yeah baby!
nWoEthan@reddit
Now, there is no you and me, you lost all your LA privileges.
ConstantStrange9974@reddit
Today we’re sad tomorrow we get up and fight!
seaspirit331@reddit
Same thing that happens every Wednesday: rage at traffic on 75
MaxLeeba@reddit
It is what it is.
Express-Following282@reddit
This is not about abortions, it’s a section of a bigger picture!! Do u need it drawn for u??? It’s about a man who’s PRESIDENT, again. He did a GREAT job then, we were ALL happy then!! And 2020 happened…a term of pure hell
Late_Tip_1098@reddit
It's time Americans to unite again and start working together
Imaginary_Ball_1361@reddit
Yep😂
individual0@reddit
I'm going to celebrate
StockAdvanced2644@reddit
Because the welfare of people’s families depends on money
zoltronzero@reddit
Glad I made the move to Colorado before he got inaugurated.
Artistic_Agent2890@reddit
We get rich
Lotsapretty1@reddit
What would y’all suggest Allred run for next?
strog91@reddit
Dog catcher
Orthobird@reddit
Lower gas prices, energy independence, bring jobs back, seal the border, negotiate peace in Ukraine and Israel. Sanctions on Iran
htxDTAposse@reddit
Lolol the tears in here it's so funny.
DFWtx17@reddit
Now comes the reckoning
Expensive-Function16@reddit
Shit continues as shit always has and nothing changes.
Alexkono@reddit
Yep
No-South-7463@reddit
Why do you want that?
FizzgigsRevenge@reddit
If only. Republicans seem adamant to kill the ACA, meaning your kids won't be able to stay on your health insurance after 18 and millions of others will lose insurance too. They said they're coming for Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare funding, contraceptives, and will begin mass deportations. If any single one of these were to happen the results would be catastrophic to the nation and our economy.
Alexkono@reddit
Lol
Kollekt2@reddit
Wish more people had this view.
SeinfeldSavant@reddit
Dallas isn't going anywhere. You'll be fine.
SeaEvening5878@reddit
Yeah and from here on out everything is funny to me. “Trump put tariffs on basic needs and now I can’t afford anything” lol “trump is trying to get rid of the department of education” lol “trump is repealing previously secure rights” lol “trump is banning vaccines” lol
PM-of-Kushistan@reddit
Should have bet on Trump winning the election, it was free money
BoogerMcFarFetched@reddit
All of the propaganda bots leave Reddit?
Banned-Avacado@reddit
IMO he will be more unhinged and we will see drastic changes, more money going to businesses, more jobs in red states and blue state will suffer.
Era of Trump/Musk is on us.
No-Conclusion8653@reddit
Oops!... I Did It Again
Oops!
gaegh99@reddit
Anyone unhappy with these results can move to Canada. They need an influx of liberals.
Sass_McQueen64@reddit
I'm having a real hard time today. I'm making sure my responsibilities are handled but I'm crying the whole way through it.
OzarkaDew@reddit
I'm probably going to go out and buy a gun some time next month...
This way when the authorities come and I'm at the pearly gates, I could at least say I tried my best to defend my family. All because my last name doesn't sound "american".
It's sad how getting deported is a serious fear of mine.
Possumcox@reddit
If you’re here LEGALLY, you have nothing to worry about. Simples.
OzarkaDew@reddit
Is it simple? Because American history doesn't have a good track record with minorities. Citizen or not....
Possumcox@reddit
Oh geez. Here we go. Do I owe reparations?
OzarkaDew@reddit
I don't see how you jumped to that conclusion...maybe I did poor job at explaining myself, so let's try this way. As a minority and a united state citizen, my biggest fear is for authority or vigilantes coming and trying to deport me all because I don't look American. My fears is based on the fact that it has happened before in history and the president to be is not doing anything to alleviate those fears. I'm sure that the Japanese and Germans sent to internment camps also felt that they were safe bc they were American citizens...or the Muslims that were imprisoned during the patriot act. I did not mention anything about reparations...
Possumcox@reddit
Your inference that Trump is like Hitler isn’t based in any fact. The only thing that has been said is that ILLEGAL immigrants will be deported. And they should be. They’re here ILLEGALLY. As a US citizen, you have no worries. Americans are not the racists the left makes out to be. I love the melting pot we have, and I literally know not one person who would discriminate against any color or ethnicity.
OzarkaDew@reddit
I didn't mention Hitler, that's you. What I did mention was internment camps and the patriot act. Both of which were done under sitting us president. Both of which was done I. The interest of national security and ended with American imprisonment. Trumps whole campaign rhetoric is just replacing the words "spies" and "terrorists " with "illegal immigrants"
JurassicParkCSR@reddit
Never underestimate the power of hate and fear.
ChunkyChangon@reddit
You go to work?? You know..live you’ve been doing? Lol
pepsiblast08@reddit
I don't understand why people get so Up in arms after an election. I still have to pay my bills and they still suck. Nothing changed.
ChunkyChangon@reddit
Yup. The people crying/complaining and even the folks celebrating are all so silly. We still all have to go to work. We still have bills and we’re all still divided lol
Ok_Reveal_1739@reddit
Heck Yeah Baby, too big to rig.
gotechnow@reddit
Now the economy will improve, we will begin mass deportations of the invaders and we will decimate government regulations, we will reduce spending, we will eliminate DEI and ESG from the government, we will have more respect on the world stage. Everything will be better. #MAGA.
Sensitive-Trifle9823@reddit
I think we will be fine. People are so dramatic.
DutchBlaz3r@reddit
Ted Cruz won as well... Slimy bastard
SeanSixString@reddit
Carry on and work on things in your control. You can’t control the outcome of an election. Besides your one vote, you can control the amount of attention you give to pseudo celebrity presidents and the nonsense chaos they want you to pay attention to.
CEOnnor@reddit
He’ll prop up the economy in the short term for old ass boomers but further screw over younger gens in the long term
cutivt064@reddit
Go back to work as usual. Bills ain't gonna pay itself.
sportsnatic@reddit
Go to work, pay your bills, purchase your necessities. Business as usual for me.
Ok_Coconut_1773@reddit
Book bans imminent, mass deportation, and probably a loss of personal freedoms.
Forward-Front-5459@reddit
Thunderdome
YankeeRebel7676@reddit
Hells ya. And I already have more money from market. Its a beautiful day!!!
TheSnake6109@reddit
Back to making money for your corporate overlords! Have a great day!
ApprehensiveMovie191@reddit
Thank God, Trump won!
Now the democrat party needs to go the way of the Whig party.
deguello001@reddit
Hooray!!!
Consistent_Leg_6765@reddit
I’m not happy about the result, but feel like a weight is off of my chest today…a release from the uncertainty and anxiety of waiting to know.
NoSet1407@reddit
Yea thank goodness
RogerThat_Tyler@reddit
Lol our country gets fixed is what happens.
TexasReallyDoesSuck@reddit
your city council members & city manager matter a lot. rely on em, make the city better thru 311 requests. as well, it's up to the city to not enforce laws that are based on bigotry & ignorance & alike.
TakeATrainOrBusFFS@reddit
If you want to make a difference locally, the urbanism community in Dallas is thriving and needs lots of help with making Dallas a walkable, economically healthy, sustainable, bikeable place with good public transit. State and national policy affect this, but most of it is local.
I have made a ton of friends in this community and am feeling motivated to double down on focusing on making Dallas better since that’s the obvious path for civic engagement right now.
RequirementIll8141@reddit
Facts!!?!!
FujitsuPolycom@reddit
The 5 supreme court appointments are going to fuck us for the next 60 years.
MadNugs7@reddit
To do: cry
SaltyMatzoh@reddit
Wake up. Go to work. Live life.
Lotsapretty1@reddit
It’s so upsetting. Cruz won too and we don’t like him at all
Shage111YO@reddit
I am hoping that both political parties let it sink in that almost 60% of the general public didn’t vote. Whoever learns from this would be better served moving forward. I voted but I know many people who refused to. Roughly 70 million for, roughly 70 million against, and roughly 200 million didn’t take part in the conversation.
Jackieray2light@reddit
Well, it is time to start stocking up my pantry again, store 10 days worth of water, and buy a ton of TP. Probably should cut back on my IRA contributions as well, so I have a little more cash flow for emergencies.
harnessed_a_poot@reddit
14 million less voters for the Dems. If only half of them showed up she wins
grogers385@reddit
Leave.
ChloeDrew557@reddit
I will if border patrol allows it.
CatteNappe@reddit
What now is the fulfillment of Elon Musk's promise of hardship.
Ok_Repair_2323@reddit
The sun will rise, as it always does. But the sun is setting on Liberty.
Cassius_Rex@reddit
Somehow, Palpatine returned.
ChloeDrew557@reddit
We all owe JJ an immense apology for the trolling.
Anonymous-Satire@reddit
Are we allowed to be honest about Harris yet, or are the astrourfed local subs still banning users for posting any objective but unsupportive comments?
Repulsive_Factor_175@reddit
So many sheep in the comments quit whining and bitching she lost he won the world goes on.
Asada_Tacos@reddit
Yeah Reddit is full of liberal sheep unfortunately
Radiant-Touch3812@reddit
Trump 2024 babyyy!!🤘
Feelisoffical@reddit
Nothing much. Move on with life, you’ll be fine.
Murky-Rooster1104@reddit
The same thing that you did yesterday. What happens in your house is far more important than what happens in the White House. Next most important is the State and local level. You can always find a State that suits you (contrary to popular opinion all “red” or “blue” states are not alike).
Sure_Bass8242@reddit
Imagine seeing your rapist become president. Again. After being charged with numerous felonies. Those women are probably not ok.
Also - can we check on the fake Melania?
ChloeDrew557@reddit
Ah Melanie. Perhaps the biggest loser in all of this.
jjmoreta@reddit
The highlights of the crisis speech I gave my gutted (older) kids this morning on the school run (they were too young for 2016 to affect them).
Your feelings are valid. They're not stupid. Feeling threatened or like the world is going to end is normal. But just remember they're feelings and not always necessarily rational or need to be acted on. Don't make sudden or major decisions while in grief.
Life will go on. For an older liberal, today feels very similar to the morning after 2016. Maybe like older elections too. But it's part of living in a democracy. Your candidate doesn't always win. But we are Americans. This is the government we live in and will continue to work towards reforming where needed.
Try to resist blaming others for today. Trust in the system as votes are checked and recounted as need be. I have no illusions of hidden votes showing up or mail-ins being enough to overturn major results. Voter fraud is statistically low. Voter suppression is real and should still be fought in the future but is not the sole reason Republicans won this time. Analyzing what campaign strategies won or failed can happen later. They can't affect anything now.
Try to resist catastrophizing. It's easy to jump to spiraling into thinking of all the worst-case Project 2025 scenarios immediately. Distract yourself from the worst of it at least until some grieving is done and you can be more rational about potential and impending doom. Avoid social media and doomscrolling for a few days if needed. If all the governmental checks and balances fail and we lose more rights, there is always revolution. But we can think better about that later. They aren't even in office until January. As far as I know the filibuster has not been lost. The Supreme Court is suspect but they're not completely corrupt or stupid. All hope is not completely gone that we can at least maintain the level of rights we have.
Let yourself grieve. People often forget that grieving applies to smaller events in life, not just death. Grieve the future you were hoping for. Remember grieving isn't linear and the steps of grieving don't always happen in the same order or for the same amount of time. You may accept it one minute and rage against the world the next. Give it time.
Keep focus on the next goal in your life. For most adults, today has to be another day. Jobs. Family. Household. Make extra time and allowance for self-care and mental self-care. But also keep your weekly, monthly, yearly or longer goals in mind and keep working towards those. I think I'm clearing my calendar this weekend to do something, anything that my brain needs to move forward, but past that I am throwing myself into my long-term goals to help me regain purpose and meaning within my life since the rest is out of my control (I voted, I can't control anything past that).
If you feel like you need an escape plan, to a more liberal city or a more blue state or even to a different country, it doesn't have to happen immediately. Again remember, avoid major decisions when grieving. If you don't have the ability or money yet, you can still feel like you're working towards it by streamlining/decluttering your life and making progress towards your long-range goals. Getting ready to move so that when the opportunity does strike, you can jump on it.
You are not alone. We are a family and we will support each other. We are not the only ones devastated today. We will all eventually heal, regroup, and move forward.
Try not to judge others that are struggling. We're all coming from different places in our lives. We're all at different points in grieving. Some people will have problems moving on and will be in deep grieving or panic for a while. Love and support them as best as you can.
Also try not to judge others that are loudly celebrating their victory today in cruel ways too harshly. You aren't obligated to keep people that do not share your values in your life. Or give them any access to you. Moderate your life and social media friends lists accordingly. I am not purging my lists of Republicans. But I have removed some people that no longer add value to my life in the last week or two. And I may temporarily block or limit people I can't remove. I don't want my social media to become an echo chamber of only people that agree with me, but I also don't want constant hatred and negativity against other groups of humans on my feed. I don't owe them my energy or my time.
Be kind to yourselves and others today!
slwilke13@reddit
Ooo the humanity! It’s over! He’s Hitler! We’ll never get to vote again!
Ok for real… nothing will change but the time on the clock.
BasicChair420@reddit
We fukd
notathrowaway0419@reddit
What'd you do last time?
AliveChampionship479@reddit
Liberal tears….awesome
moneyshot556762@reddit
God Bless America. Keep working hard, and being thankful we live in the greatest country on earth. Americans were.not happy with the direction of the country and chose a different direction.
Cool_Signature_7624@reddit
Wonder how Kamala is gonna fuck us up these next two months
Skinny_Phoenix@reddit
She's VP. She literally can't do anything of substance, other than certify the election and be the tie vote in the senate, if needed. She will do the former but she won't have any opportunity to do the latter. She won't do anything.
Successful-Row-3825@reddit
YESSSIR
westex74@reddit
Is anyone surprised? Of course he won. Against a really weak Dem Candidate and with the economy and crazyness of the last 4 years?
Brn2bndair@reddit
Yes
Middle_Ad9459@reddit
AWESOME HAPPY DAY IN AMERICA.
pepsiblast08@reddit
Eh, no day is really happy.
Middle_Ad9459@reddit
Everyday in my life is HAPPY I have a truly Beautiful Awesome Wife, 4 Great Cats and crazy old dog. And always wake up happy. Now I will be even happier knowing my retirement money will grow and not be taken away like Obama and Biden were doing to me. And knowing that my Heavenly Father loves us is the Greatest thing of All.
pepsiblast08@reddit
I raised 2 kids for 5 years and was building a life with what I thought was a great woman. She drained the $80k I had, tanked my credit score from 850 to 550, left me with $35k+ in debt, cheated, and then ended things. Filed bankruptcy and been floating around the Southern states doing side work where I can. There's no upside. And running out of reasons to keep going with this world.
Middle_Ad9459@reddit
My ex after 34 yrs packed up everything while I was out of town 800 miles away left my cats to starve to death. Like you cleaned my ass out. House was 8 months behind, my truck was supposed to be paid off but 8000 owed on it. Seems I was paying her daughters house and car and exes. Their bills etc. but traveled so much I didn't know it. Always asked how I was broke making 150k a yr and got shit answers. So fought 4 yrs for that divorce. Was at my lowest till I met my current wife. Now this month is 10 yrs. So never give up. She's out there and so will that job now that things will pick up again.
Successful-Ad7034@reddit
LFG!!!!
OhManisityou@reddit
Abortion is now a state level issue. What’s done is done. Work tirelessly at your state level to get these abortion bans overturned. Bitching about Trump won’t solve anything. Lick your wounds and move on to overturning the decision at the state level.
idkhowbtfmbttf@reddit
Ride the fuckin train baby!!! MAGA in full effect!
Koobles@reddit
If Michelle Obama ran, there could have been a chance.
BrockAndChest@reddit
Let’s gooooo
lukearguin@reddit
Now we get our country back
LurkerAbroad44@reddit
The people spoke.
reann289@reddit
We will have 4-8 years of JD Vance
Possumcox@reddit
The next 12+ years are going to be glorious!! We can only pray the Democratic Party is forever relegated into the annuls of American history as a horrible and embarrassing mistake.
Intelligent_Area4615@reddit
The kommie lost probably lost the gawk gawk technique she used to get the other jobs.
NeenW1@reddit
😪💔
Possumcox@reddit
Yaaaaaay!!!!! 😃😃
gibsic@reddit
farmie
knowhistory99@reddit
Caligula gets a second chance. Pardons himself & coronates himself.
PrizeOk4325@reddit
He won
Possumcox@reddit
This is a wonderful morning ☀️ I feel happy, hopeful and safe. It’s also extremely satisfying and amusing to read the comments from sore losers who don’t appreciate or respect the democratic process. The people have spoken. Tyranny, fascism, hated, racism, bigotry and oppression lost.
Fast_Distribution526@reddit
Time for a new house!! MAGA!!!
slutpriest@reddit
He sure did!
Possumcox@reddit
And just like his last Presidency, we’ll again see that all the negative publicity and scare mongering from the MSM fake news were all lies. It’ll be ok. The people have spoken.
Possumcox@reddit
It’ll be interesting to see if my previous post gets censored. Free speech and all.
jusplur@reddit
Obviously
tacoscholar@reddit
I give it a year before his cabinet removes him using the 25th amendment and the White House becomes the Heritage House
Alexia_ynwa@reddit
You're Delusional
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
We hope he doesn’t become a dictator like he said he would.
We hope his cabinet doesn’t include Elon, Ron Desantis, Hershel Walker, and RFK, like he said he would.
What a mess
Alexkono@reddit
“Dictator” good lord
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
He said the words. Should I not believe him?
Mant1c0re@reddit
He has literally promised verbatim to be one.
pepsiblast08@reddit
Have you been living under a rock or do you just not listen when he talks?
JuniorPomegranate9@reddit
I can’t wait for those grocery savings to offset the cost of healthcare, education, and massive tax breaks for billionaires
unbrokenSGCA@reddit
Just a bunch of people feeling emboldened to say whatever hateful things they want. Besides that, not much will change. Oh and he gets to escape jail time for now.
juanopenings@reddit
Nothing has fundamentally changed - America since it's inception has been a giant grift that exploits workers for the benefit of wealthy elites
WhiteNoize4567@reddit
Yes. America won. 🇺🇸
Kollekt2@reddit
The pre-election polls once again had a tough time knowing what to do with trump. I thought he would win but very surprised on the the margin and popular vote
sameolemeek@reddit
Don’t believe anything you see on tv and social media. Everything is for clicks and views now
madmos@reddit
Ummm, you get up, go to work, and go about your day.
I do not get how people think whomever is elected Prez is going to have any kind of impact on their day to day life. I have been on this rock for over 50 years. And nothing ever changes no matter which party is in power. Sure, the messaging changes. But true change never really happens.
So please, everyone take a deep breathe. Stop being gaslit by the media. Nothing horrible is about to happen just because DJT has won the election.
pepsiblast08@reddit
This exactly. I still have to pay my bills and I still have to work for shit pay. Nothing changed.
Yarusenai@reddit
And now we keep living as we always have. What other choice is there?
pepsiblast08@reddit
Exactly. Just keep struggling to get through each day.
PM_ME_YOUR_LAWNCHAIR@reddit
Now, we FEAST!
My Wednesday BBQ commences with my uncle's 14-hour brisket and my dad's Mac and cheese (nothing to do with the election).
Exact_Comparison_575@reddit
Enjoy it. Our country will be slowly become stronger.
J-Thong@reddit
Lmfaooooo the comment section . I been waiting for this
cherrybeebop@reddit
Enjoy destroying your country, do you? So fun!
J-Thong@reddit
Stock markets going up :)
cherrybeebop@reddit
Bitcoin!?!? You just told on yourself. Wow.
J-Thong@reddit
Cope
pepsiblast08@reddit
Didn't matter who won though. The world sucks and will continue to suck
Icy_Jello_3945@reddit
Yes, he did. And by a lot too. I wasn’t really surprised.
Distinct-Actuary-606@reddit
In the words of Nelson Muntz “Ha Ha”!
No-Celebration3097@reddit
Russia won.
DKDanny@reddit
Back to work. You have the biggest impact on your life. Not who holds political office. If you are a democrat 2016 came and went. You are still here. If you are Republican 2020 came and went. You are still here.
The media of this country has demonized one side or the other to the point where it assumed that those that disagree with you are dangerous. The reality is the media showcases the extreme. Most people are people, not monsters.
Everything is going to be okay.
borninfremont@reddit
I think Covid gave everyone memory loss. It was a daily bipartisan office ritual from 2017-2020 to talk about whatever crazy shit Trump said the day before. People on both sides were losing it and quarantine repolarized everyone.
SeniorEducated@reddit
now the jews can feel safe :)
Existing-Net5672@reddit
Did anyone really expect Harris to win? Maybe put a viable candidate up and Democrats might stand a chance. I know, lets ask Oprah. She's real good at picking a dark horse.
bombassgal@reddit
I don’t talk politics in person but I just have to put it somewhere.
Thank God. I don’t know if I’m more happy about Trump being president, or Vance being vice president.
I’m not going to argue - it’s not my intention when commenting here. I’m sorry that today is probably really hard on some of you guys.
Expert-Hyena6226@reddit
Unfortunately. I can't believe it. I feel like 10 IQ points were taken from me.
Shoddy-Store-4098@reddit
The only silver lining I see from this election outcome, is that when trumps universal tariffs hit, he’s taking down the entire MAGA merch empire down, those businesses thrive on Chinese exports
peachole@reddit
Yall seriously need to get out the echochamber lmaoo
alpineike_@reddit
Fr this place is INSANE lol
SippinOnShine1984@reddit
😎
blitz7979@reddit
MAGA
Burty-Burtburt4420@reddit
Insert James Carville quote: ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID. I also believe many men are more patriarchal than is publicized - this is a big thing in Latino/central American culture. And others. IMO a male same age as Kamala would’ve had really good chance to win. Just my two cents.
Biker3373@reddit
We move on. I'm more concerned about many of these props that passed.
Background-Range-613@reddit
Going to try and get through these next 4 years and hope and vote for a better future for my daughter
pepsiblast08@reddit
Now he becomes the president. That's pretty self explanatory.
davis214512@reddit
Life goes on. America made a decision and must now live with those consequences, good and bad. There is clearly a major shift right. Hispanics moved right. Texas is more red today than it was 4 years ago.
maxomega98@reddit
Yes sir let’s goooooo!!
mmmmglittery@reddit
We sit back and see how long it takes for him to actually be successfully assassinated. I’m giving it 1 year, tops.
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BabyNoHoney@reddit
Dallas County supposedly decriminalized marijuana. Maybe do something with that? 🤷♂️
WifeyNTX@reddit
There’s a lot of humbled people here this morning.
Alexkono@reddit
Deserved
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
We relish in the fact that there might actually be some positive change compared to the last four years and with additions like Vivek musk and Ron Paul into our government we might actually get some government efficiency and clarity
your either happy with it or you’re not and if you’re not deal with it
This is not an electoral college thing that you can pin on it. He won the popular vote and the electoral college…people really just did not want Kamala Harris.
Spacepunch33@reddit
Vivek and Elon will not get anything done. They are a brown noser and man child respectively
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
Two people that are both billionaires and have built empires won’t get anything done lol
that sounds super accurate
Elegant_Spot_3486@reddit
Live your life. Same as when he wasn’t president and when he was before.
mamasan2000@reddit
There goes our being in NATO. Here comes Project 2025 where they record women's periods to track for pregnancies. Anyone with an accent or brown skin is in jeopardy, even if they have their Birth certificate or green card. How do you prepare for fascism?
HarrisNGH@reddit
“What now”????? Ummmm expect life to get somewhat better, but one guy can unfuck an entire nation….. we are so corrupt it’s not even funny
MiddleAd6302@reddit
I will not miss the MMW posts here and in the Texas sub. Now we can move on…. I hope…
cherrybeebop@reddit
Do you not remember the daily chaos of Donald Trump? There was no peace. It will be even worse this time. He's obviously senile. It will be a constant barrage of crazy ass tweets and scandals.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
I only heard the obviously senile remarks about Trump after Biden was obviously senile on national TV.
cherrybeebop@reddit
If treason wasn't enough for you I don't expect much understanding from you.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
I voted for Harris, I'm just not huffing copium.
cherrybeebop@reddit
Sure.
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
I've been posting about voting for Harris since I early voted. You think I'd try and claim the losing side NOW?
Spacepunch33@reddit
No I don’t. Life seemed not much different than today before the pandemic
cherrybeebop@reddit
This sentence is atrocious, lol. Maybe take a nap and come back later with ChatGPT.
Spacepunch33@reddit
And with that nice little look into your personality, I’m shocked, SHOCKED I SAY, that most of America didn’t act the way you wanted them too
cherrybeebop@reddit
Not phased at all by your comments just excited to see all of you watch the devil you love so much destroy your lives. Good luck!
Spacepunch33@reddit
Sis I voted for Harris, I’m just not delusional
cherrybeebop@reddit
Sure 👌🏾
GambesonKing@reddit
You mean like the Russia collusion hoax perpetrated by Dems for three straight years?
chayatoure@reddit
The one that was investigated and confirmed by a republican?
cherrybeebop@reddit
Again, I know yall have intellectual challenges but that has nothing to do with today. And if the Kremlin admitting that he sent COVID tests to Putin when we had a shortage in the US isn't proof of something going on, there's verifiable evidence you can read.
Alexkono@reddit
Those subs were hilarious the last month or so
mamasan2000@reddit
I dunno. Reading "How Fascism Works' to see if I can find out what's coming. Prepare for the worst, but home for the best. I know people who'd be in danger who are leaving the country before the end of the year.
PM_ME_USED_TAMPONS@reddit
Just gotta survive day to day.
Going to keep my head down and remain polite, but distant, from those Trumpers who I interact with regularly and react to things as they happen.
Alexkono@reddit
Lol
CommodoreVF2@reddit
And Cruz.
TakeATrainOrBusFFS@reddit
You have plenty of opportunities to make millions of lives better through local politics regardless of what’s happening nationally.
It’s a great time to get involved in the Dallas urbanism community to make Dallas a walkable, bikeable, economically healthy, transit-accessible city.
I have hope because we recently passed Forward Dallas, homelessness in Dallas is going down despite it going up elsewhere because of our city’s approach, and I have a general sense that our city is moving forward generally.
Get involved in something meaningful. Voting every two years isn’t your only chance to make a difference.
lateseasondad@reddit
Your tax dollars kill brown kids still.
And the money goes back to Collin county
DonkeeJote@reddit
At least we won't get another Trump campaign.
Spartanjaws@reddit
November 6th I guess?
OleDirtMcGirt901@reddit
This country is what it is and always has been. I didn't want him to win but fully expected him to win. It's no surprise
monolith_blue@reddit
We'll see if people flee the country or doomsday prep in a fashion commensurate with their rhetoric.
TechnicalTyler@reddit
Trump alone isn’t the biggest thing, they’ve got the house, the judiciary, and probably the senate. And unlike democrats, I’m sure they intend to shove their agenda straight through. This is going to be scary for some folks, I really don’t like what’s been slated in project 2025. But we all still have work, the sun still came up, we will survive. The mature thing to do is swallow the defeat, process it, and live your life.
StangRunner45@reddit
Unfortunately…
Txctydrver@reddit
Its a great day for America 🇺🇸
Art_and_War@reddit
Cope. Seethe, even.
AmericanHipponaut@reddit
We celebrate!
mjdallas@reddit
Wait until he tries to repeal the 22nd amendment so he can be elected again. I am sure that is on his agenda as well. Ugh!
ThriftyLizzie27@reddit
You deal with it or unfriend everyone on your socials or whatever else y'all been going on and on about the past month, last night, this morning etc
blonderaider21@reddit
HALLELUJAH!!!!! 🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
rbrown999@reddit
Oh whaaaaaaaaa😭 very little will change in the power house that affects our lives. Dont act like it's the end of the world
One_School_4712@reddit
Yay
catluvr222@reddit
Trump won!
Ferrari_McFly@reddit
Why are y’all so surprised by this?
People remember when there were 0 wars and groceries/gas didn’t break the bank. I for one am optimistic about Trump’s 2nd term.
Spacepunch33@reddit
What’s his plan for the economy again?
ADHDFart@reddit
Yup and he’s your president elect now 🥳
superwoman7588@reddit
🎉🎉🎉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
SleptWithYourGirl@reddit
I love this comment section. I’ve been waiting for four years for this.
Go to your safe space
Basic_Barbie90@reddit
🇺🇸LET’S GOOOOOOO! 🇺🇸
mrjamescomer@reddit
Trump won. You lost.
SimpleSimon001@reddit
MAGA!
b_reezy4242@reddit
All of the companies that were propped up by the dems will struggle for 4 years with their stock returns. And a host of other companies will see gains as they work with reps. US will start giving discounts on weapons to Russia also probably instead of discounts to Ukraine
KennyGomora@reddit
Trump is now president duh 🇺🇸
TexasTriton@reddit
What a perfect start to the day.
Some-Advertising-666@reddit
Yep
SaltySaltFace42@reddit
It's a huge victory. Thank god he won both the Electoral College and the popular vote. Reddit this is reminder that if you get youe news ans information on reddit you are listening to the echo chamber
fvalt05@reddit
Just like other presidents, Trump isn't going to do shit. He's all talk
TinyTimD@reddit
Great day to be alive.
Smooth-Treat-1483@reddit
Landslide!!
Matthew6_19-22@reddit
Me if Kamala won: 😴😐⛪️💵🍺🏈(wreck em Tech)👆🏽🔁
Me if Trump won: 😴😐⛪️💵🍺🏈(wreck em Tech)👆🏽🔁
Large-Vacation9183@reddit
Wreck em🫡
Nomad_sole@reddit
I knew in my gut that he was going to win. Hope he doesn’t die on us.
Ready-Lingonberry692@reddit
Glad that the annoying orange man won! Knew all along despite what the delusional minority Reddit peeps were dreaming & continue to
crownedPom@reddit
Life will be like it was 2016-20. I think it was better back then tbh. Inflation is at an all time high in recent years and I think this Trump landslide showed everyone how tired everyday Americans are.
envision83@reddit
Inflation is high because of policies he started and a pandemic. And if you think it’s going to get better when he’s been talking about 25-100% terrifs then you need to learn a few things.
bosceltics23@reddit
People like that commenter are why Trump is back in office lmao.
crownedPom@reddit
Nah, maybe he’s back in office with the electorate and popular vote because Reddit is just a giant echo chamber and people actually get news from multiple sources
bosceltics23@reddit
Inflation started rising under Trump. Look at 2015/2016. Then look at Trump in office in 2017.
Inflation is lower rn than when Trump was in office. Biden had to deal with Trump’s mishandling of the economy and pandemic.
Glad-Description-541@reddit
Biden didn’t have the right state of mind to do anything.
tltr4560@reddit
My child in Christ please look up what a tariff is, I beg of you
envision83@reddit
And they don’t want to admit that life was better in 2016-2019 because of the Obama policies.
jonestownkid22@reddit
Man, you really don’t read up on policy and how they work. You’ll be even more tired. Just wait. You’ll deserve all the terrible repercussion that will come from this. Texas will be hit hardest with Tariffs. You must have money and think things will be okay because you can afford it.
w6750@reddit
If you think trump is gonna do anything to combat inflation you’re an absolute fucking moron. He used you to get out of a prison sentence. Nothing more
No-Significance5449@reddit
Or... it doesn't, and his supporters are the ones who are impacted the most.
JustGAFS@reddit
Back to Mexico, adios puto!
Glad-Description-541@reddit
Go! You’re not any better with THAT president.
Agile_Definition_415@reddit
lol
We're leaving but we're taking the land with us.
EolianAubade@reddit
lol, no you’re not.
truth-4-sale@reddit
https://x.com/ABC/status/1854115127794045269
cilantro88@reddit
I was not excited to vote in this election. I consider myself politically centered. On the social aspect I believe everyone should have the opportunity to live with dignity and have a minimum standard/quality of life. I also believe in meritocracy, I’ve worked really hard to get where I am today and I’m still breaking my back trying to make a better living so my children can have more opportunities in the future than the ones I had. In that sense socially I’m more inclined to the left but fiscally I’m more inclined to the right. Politics (at least the one presented to the masses) have become a joke. I remember when John McCain defended Obama in one of his rallies. We really should hold our politicians to that type of standard. The circus they put on today and the polarizing bullshit rhetoric they create should really offend us all.
quaestor44@reddit
lol
CoachDigginBalls@reddit
Nothing at all like always
Infamous_Grass6333@reddit
Hell yeah he did.
Matthew6_19-22@reddit
Expect several bans from sub Mods coping that people have different opinions than Reddit. (Not this sub, this is the best sub)
HiggsBosmer@reddit
Historically the precidency, senate and house r always switching around and dovded and so on. Its not the end of the world dont stress
Xidig6@reddit
Historically have we had one part control the supreme court, the senate, the presidency, and possible the house?
Upstairs_Yard5646@reddit
Yes. There have been multiple times this has happened, for example Franklin Delano Roosevelt during much of his Presidency.
I did not vote Trump, I just say this to be factual.
RioRozayy@reddit
The world will become a better place now
Pointmoni9@reddit
Thank god he did.
badsird@reddit
Cope and seethe
the__poseidon@reddit
🍿
vertansruledonce@reddit
God is good, huge win for Trump and the country!
Aggressive-Ad-522@reddit
He didn’t win. They’re still counting as of 3am
Balmong7@reddit
The only way he lost is if every remaining states goes blue and 4 of them have been leaning red all night.
lazyjazzgal@reddit
He already won. It's clear as day
Aggravating_Chain131@reddit
Oh yeah baby 🎆
ppeach-es@reddit
hell yeah he did 👏🏻
_you_know_bro@reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHA
dallaz95@reddit
Yep! Thank God! I did my part helping him get re-elected. ☺️🙌🏾
earthworm_fan@reddit
The border and edging WW3 insanity will stop
zi_ang@reddit
What now? People bitching to virtue-signal.
Browning1917@reddit
YEP!