anon questions America

She was a pretty terrible candidate and actually moved a bit to the right of Biden in the hopes of appealing to moderates and Never Trump Republicans. Unfortunately, it’s not really a good move because no matter what you do you’ll be called a communist so you might as well lean into a more progressive message, but she refused to, paying only lip service with Tim Walz (who didn’t do such a great job himself). I don’t think she necessarily lost because she lost the progressive vote, but it certainly didn’t help. And her appeals to the right fell flat with that demographic too.

Ultimately, I do agree though, you would have to be crazy to think that a female candidate won’t have a harder time. Everyone, including other women, has a lot of internalized sexism that they don’t really recognize. Trump gets away with a lot that Harris and Clinton don’t.

Still, it is worth pointing out that both Harris and Clinton were terrible candidates. They weren’t uniquely terrible, but they were terrible nonetheless, and the fact that they were women only makes that a harder sell.

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JustOffensive@reddit

Before Biden was elected, he promised a lot and seemed like a safe choice compared to trump. That’s why he was made president. We found out very quickly that he wasn’t a good candidate. She’s not worse than Biden, but she does reinforce a lot of Bidens policies, ntm she also expressed support for Israel which lost her a significant amount of votes. She lost because a lot of people figured she would just do the same thing Biden did. Shitty campaign.

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Halcyon_156@reddit

Por que no los dos?

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OnTopSoBelow@reddit

Never send a woman to do a man's job /s

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Narcofeels@reddit

“Should I campaign more and get airtime with actually like able people? No I should just call anyone who doesn’t vote for me racist and sexist for the thousandth time people love that it worked out great for Hillary”

Never mind the fact that we had a well regarded black president for 8 years who was actually able to sway some people from the right

Kamala gave off uncanny vibes like was just doing whatever she thought would get people to like her instead of actually trying to be genuine

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Old-Post-3639@reddit

Harris also lost to Biden that cycle. Plus, Biden had the benefit of lockdowns to justify why he wasn't making public appearances. Biden probably would have lost if it weren't for SARS-CoV-2.

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Zeranvor@reddit

Admittedly I barely tuned into to this election, but I honestly can’t recall one Harris position other than “I’m not Trump”

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IHateNumbers234@reddit

She did state ger opinions on social media and the commercials I saw. To list a few, she wanted to codify abortion rights into law, legalize recreational marijuana, pass the border security bill Trump killed, give $6000 child tax credit to new families, give $25000 down payment assistance to first-time home buyers, and expand the $2000 price cap on prescription drugs to everyone

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Lost_And_NotFound@reddit

give $25000 down payment assistance to first-time home buyers

Sounds like a demand-side solution to a supply-side problem. I’m sure this wouldn’t just raise the costs by $25k.

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0x474f44@reddit

As another comment points out, it makes a difference whether everyone gets the $25k or only first-time home buyers.

Also… what are Trump’s plans to make housing more affordable?

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Lost_And_NotFound@reddit

I’m not American I don’t give a shit what Trump’s plans are. I can just know a stupid plan when I see one. Let me Trump’s and I’ll tell you if it’s stupid as well.

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0x474f44@reddit

That’s the thing, Trump campaigned on barely any policies. Regarding affordable housing I believe he never mentioned what he would try.

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Kazzot@reddit

That's exactly what would happen. Surprised more people haven't pointed that out.

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t0ppings@reddit

No, that's dumb. It's for first time buyers only, we have the same thing here and while we have similarly fucked house prices the first time buyer bonus doesn't contribute to that. All it does is make people less likely to spunk it on a small starter home before moving up. The housing crises are largely not due to individual home owners, it's because of property companies and mass hoarding of housing.

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Zpalq@reddit

About 30% of construction workers are immigrants. What's the housing price increase when they get deported?

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xXxedgyname69xXx@reddit

"First time" is the point. It gives an incentive to people actually living in the homes instead of scooping them up as investments. Expectation would be a price increase, but of less than 25k.

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nuklearink@reddit

And people saw this and said “Nah i want the racist rapist for president actually, he says what he actually means!”

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Yorunokage@reddit

Today i legit turned from an optimist into a climate doomer. I finally understood that humanity is so much more stupid than i thought and even though we totally could i don't think we will bother with fixing the climate before it's too late

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Tronerfull@reddit

A bit slow on the uptake aint ya? dont worry we are doomed as a species. We kinda needed to evolve a lot more before being stiffled by our tech.

Anyway enjoy your lifetime and center in yourself instead of the big picture.

Because the big picture was fucked from the start.

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hitchens1949@reddit

We are not doomed;. however bad things get, remember that despair comes from the evil one. Keep your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me."

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

enjoy your lifetime and center in yourself instead of the big picture.

A lifetime in a fucking cyberpunk dystopia. fucking thanks

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BathTubBand@reddit

I mean if were all gonna put out our worst case scenarios now I would suggest that climate change is only bad for the poor.
How the fuck is wind ever gonna be a problem when I have a concrete underground bunker?
Water when I have oxygen tanks?
If you have money and a radio you just move away from disaster. I think you could probably have 2-3 properties and enough cool tech to get to 2070 right now as long as you got about 3 million dollars.
Also you would have to want to survive in that scenario. The Fallout series is kinda cool they all live in silos underground etc.
cant go over it, cant go under it, have to go through it. Like a boss!
Become an Abrams tank, in your minds!

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MentalRadish3490@reddit

Just buy one property in Michigan or somewhere like that, enough water to last at least your lifetime and the chances of a hurricane Helene destroying Grand Rapids seems unlikely even in the worst case scenarios. Anyone in the gulf states, you’ve got about a decade or two before living there is fundamentally not worth it anymore. Plan accordingly.

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Fluffyeater09@reddit

Yep for most people in eastern US or Canada, living near the Great Lakes is likely the best long term option

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TSDLoading@reddit

I'm sorry for all the animals and wildlife, but the great filter is coming. And seeing humanity the last decades not learning anything from past mistakes, I really think it's better so.

Imagine living in an interstellar environment, run by the same people who control earth. Shivers me

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3DollarMeat@reddit

stop drinking the koolaid.

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Ycr1998@reddit

Imagine living in an interstellar environment, run by the same people who control earth.

Never watched "Don't Look Up"? You'll enjoy the ending. 🤭

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TSDLoading@reddit

No, never. Will definetly watch it, if you're saying that 😅

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RB1O1@reddit

I hope the fermi paradox gets us, the species doesn't deserve to exist...

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croto8@reddit

Figure out fusion and it’s gg. Stop being a doomed and go invent something

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Yorunokage@reddit

Well i do work in research, that's just not my field though

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croto8@reddit

Then get motivated. Stop perpetuating doom. Be the change.

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Yorunokage@reddit

I get it, as i said i've always been an optimist, i was just venting because this is a very sad day

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KainDing@reddit

Welcome to the club... grab a weed brownie and forget your worries. We wont be able to make a change anyway.

(Still should always vote for what one thinks is right)

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Probably1915@reddit

Didn’t Biden say he was going to do literally all of this and then never did?

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Chickentendies94@reddit

He did pass the tax credit for a year, but couldn’t get it renewed under the republican house

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chillychinaman@reddit

Not saying Biden is blameless of effectual, but remember Republicans in Congress torpedoed their own legislature to not give Biden any wins.

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Specialist-Ad-9038@reddit

Did you not?

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tweak06@reddit

They said “I’ll take fascism if it means cheaper gas and cheaper Doritos.”

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Old-Post-3639@reddit

Fascism antagonizes religion. Donald Trump doesn't. Ergo, Trump isn't fascist.

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tweak06@reddit

I don’t think you understand what fascism is

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Old-Post-3639@reddit

Fascism is the political order created by Benito Mussolini and utilized by Francisco Franco. A key tenant is that there is no power higher than the state.

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Ignis_Imperia@reddit

He speaks in buzzwords because that all his followers care about since they're mostly 40+ who just believe the first thing their guy says without doing research

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Justhereforther34@reddit

Because we didn’t elect Harris, our greatest ally is now going to suffer. Who is going to give billions to Israel and Ukraine now!?

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Djinigami@reddit

You think trump's gonna stop funding Israel?

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Justhereforther34@reddit

Oh he will be

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Snazzysnaj@reddit

You clearly have not been keeping up then. There is no bigger Netanyahu glazer than Donald Trump.

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Justhereforther34@reddit

? I’m agreeing with you

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Snazzysnaj@reddit

It sounded like you were saying Trump is gonna cut funding mb

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tokcliff@reddit

Nah its because she had 4 years to do it and couldnt do it. What makes you think she can do it for the next 4 years?

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Empero6@reddit

She was the vice president.

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batmansthebomb@reddit

And you think Trump will do those things?

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2Rome4Carthage@reddit

No, people realized these are fake promises and voted accordingly.

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nuklearink@reddit

Voted accordingly for the racist rapist, yes

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2Rome4Carthage@reddit

gUyS hE iS LiTeRalLy hiTleR rEeE

Vote camala not based on the content of her character but on the color of her skin. Who is the racist?

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Empero6@reddit

I didn’t want a convicted felon who has tried to both Epstein and diddy to be President.

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nuklearink@reddit

I never said he was “literally hitler” i said he’s a racist rapist, which he is. Whoever said I voted for Kamala based on the color of her skin as well? I don’t like kamala but i certainly like orange shitstain less, and I certainly don’t care about anybodies skin color regardless

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ArchMageSeptim@reddit

*child rapist

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The_User76@reddit

Yes but they also voted for fake promises because he won the first one being "anti establishment" and them was anything but that , why would he be different this time ?

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IllConstruction3450@reddit

Epstein and P-Diddy are friends Trump called friends and apparently that’s ok.

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revanisthesith@reddit

Wasn't the legalization of marijuana a pretty late add-on? I don't remember her saying anything about that early on. I'm guessing that was at least partially done to deflect from her just laughing when asked if she ever smoked weed after she locked up so many for doing just that.

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HenFruitEater@reddit

Giving away free money has tons of side effects with taxes and inflation. I would rather just get taxed less than add bureaucracy and give out free money to buy votes

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saketho@reddit

I heard her say she is going to cut taxes for the poor and the middle, but she said it just once or twice. The overwhelming majority is in favour of this, even the rich, and this should have been her primary agenda that she pushed in every rally.

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No_Economics_2677@reddit

So she was going to cut taxes, which means the government has less money, and she was gonna give out a bunch of money? Where's the money coming from? Or would that have just been the next presidents problem?

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saketho@reddit

The tax on the wealthy and businesses, and all other taxes (sales tax land and house etc) are enough to cover the majority of businesses. Cutting taxes for the poor wont impact government revenue as much as cutting taxes for the rich. Main goal is reduce government spending.

I think she should have spent her entire campaign explaining what government spending was going to be cut, or how things would be more efficient and save money etc. From the things she promised this had potential to be the strongest point and didnt focus all efforts behind it, imo.

She was more insistent on printing money to give to the poor, instead of just cutting taxes for the poor and letting them keep what they rightfully earned.

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random_internet_guy_@reddit

Yes because money grow on trees, dems are so ignorant its crazy.

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sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit

The border security bill was an amnesty bill that would secure swing states as blue locked. It’s literally the meme where you call the bill the “good thing bill” then you just poison pill it with stuff the other party won’t want then you can say they killed the good thing bill. Can’t speak on anything else other than the child tax credit thing was 1 upping trumps $5000 that he pitched.

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theceure@reddit

Even with 25,000 dollars down. The house prices and interest rates are so high, most Americans still would not be able to afford a home. 6000 tax credit to new families is bullshit and everyone knows it. It means you get a one time payment of 6000. That’s nothing when you have to raise the child for 18 years. Expanding the 2000 prescription cap to the group of people who don’t need it as much is just not enough. None of these are particularly bad ideas. But like you said. You can read them. But when you look at all her interviews and she is asked about her policies. She recites one of those points and adds in her middle class American quip and one or two other rehearsed responses. Any thing else is nothing more but word salad gibberish and laughter. She came off as fake and artificial. For better or for worse Trump knows how to resonate with his base. You add the support of RFK and people like Gabbard behind him people start paying attention. They look back and compare 2016-2019 and the last 4 years.

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flame22664@reddit

The average American voter right here.

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Zeranvor@reddit

“The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter”

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SPRTN-KIMANDER9@reddit

Then you didn’t look

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Zeranvor@reddit

What do you think “barely tuned in” means, you dilapidated donut?

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Kokoro_Bosoi@reddit

I honestly can’t recall one Harris position other than “I’m not Trump”

Abortion rights? Student's loans forgiveness? Ukraine support? I doesn't take that much effort to remember them tbh.

They are almost opposite on anything but Israel.

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

She was in office these are the things she should have been doing already. That is very odd to propose those relatively minor things when people struggle to buy products. People wanted economy to recover not to support some war on other end of the world.

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knightmare907@reddit

Except the economy did recover, inflation was so low the federal reserve was looking to cut rates, unemployment was about as low as it could feasibly get, real wages were about as high as they had ever been. The US came out of Covid with a better recovery than any of the other countries in the G7. Despite all that everyone felt like the economy was bad because people don’t have any fucking clue how the economy works.

The main gripes I heard people around my generation make was that they never thought they were going to own their own home and thought they could never afford to have kids. And guess who ran on policies that would help Americans do both of those things? Kamala did. What did trump run on? An out of control inflationary plan of tariff every import at 20% for zero fucking reason and vague references of violence against dems and minorities.

Problem is we Americans are just regarded, can’t make decisions in our own best interest.

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LXiO@reddit

Not being Trump is a pretty strong argument tho

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ICoraxI@reddit

Interesting tell me more of this hypothesis

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paco-ramon@reddit

Not when over 50% of people voted Trump.

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YettiYeet@reddit

It’s clearly not lol

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chillychinaman@reddit

This aged like milk.

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Waterbuck71@reddit

Corporate Tax: Trump reduces tax to 15-18 from 21%. Harris increases tax to 28%.

Personal Tax: Trump reduces renews capital gains cut. Harris increases million dollar salary bracket capital gains.

Abortion: Trump declared neutrality. Harris renewes Roe.

Tariffs: Trump looks for a 60% tariff on all goods from China. Studies show this leads to significant inflation. Both would use minor tariffs strategically.

Foreign Policy: Trump is posed to be significantly more friendly with Russia than Harris, though he is chaotic enough to actually play hardball with foreign powers. Harris would have led to a more formal and professional, if less effective approach.

Minimum wage: Harris raises federal minimum to $15. Historically, it ought to be around $10-13. Trump is likely to leave it at $7.25.

I really don’t see how Trump plans to combat inflation. Heavy tariffs raise it, corporate tax cuts aren’t likely to raise wages, and he isn’t known for legislation that benefits the poor.

Meanwhile, most of my peers (25m) are struggling financially and are close to moving back in with their parents if they haven’t already.

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P41N90D@reddit

Foreign Policy: Trump is posed to be significantly more friendly with Russia than Harris, though he is chaotic enough to actually play hardball with foreign powers. Harris would have led to a more formal and professional, if less effective approach.

shot:

https://www.reuters.com/world/what-did-trump-say-about-nato-funding-what-is-article-5-2024-02-12/

chaser:

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-artillery/

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w00ms@reddit

cant wait to see the consequences of half of america electing a russian satellite into presidential office again

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komali_2@reddit

though he is chaotic enough to actually play hardball with foreign powers

This is a mischaracterization of someone who is easily flattered by strongman posturing. Netenyahu made a mockery of Biden he's going to cuck the SHIT out of trump

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Radical-Efilist@reddit

Except Trump has historically held an extremely hostile attitude towards Iran, if you recall both his campaign 2016 and the presidential term after that. I think Netanyahu will find the lines drawn are so far away he doesn't even have the balls to cross them.

Yes, he has buddied up with many other strongmen, but he's never had a good relationship with Iran. In fact, he spent his last presidential term repeatedly trying to screw them over and failing due to internal opposition.

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Stalinbaum@reddit

Pretty soon Dems will be able to make as many “trumponomics” jokes as possible before we run out of money and starve

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TWIT_TWAT@reddit

Does Trump have any actual policy positions? I think he has some half-baked ideas but not much in terms of a solid plan.

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

Isolationism, tariffs, lower taxes, smaller government. These I guess the major topics he is covering.

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Yorunokage@reddit

Honestly "I'm not Trump" should have been enough to win but alas the average american is even more stupid than i thought

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

It shouldn't and didn't. It will make very bad precedent when candidate promises to not be as bad instead of actually proposing viable alternatives and solutions which can be criticized.

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Diezelbub@reddit

It didn't work for Hillary why would it work for a candidate with even less support lol?

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Yorunokage@reddit

Because Trump is even more obviously of an absolute disaster than before

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Lt-ColViper@reddit

this mentality is why you lost, yet you refuse to change so continue to lose you will

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Yorunokage@reddit

Chill out wise sage, i'm not even american. I'm just saddened by the fact that we threw our likely last chance to solve the climate crysis to the wind today

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Lt-ColViper@reddit

countries shit talk the us a lot but then put all their chips in our corner, why?

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Yorunokage@reddit

What are you even on about now. Last i checked i'm a guy not a country

But i got the kind of guy you are so don't worry: GO AMERICA! BEST COUNTRY FUCK YEAH!

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Diezelbub@reddit

Not really lol

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scorpionballs@reddit

Yeah… fucking embarrassing really. And they have no idea

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paco-ramon@reddit

She had the support of Taylor Swift.

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batmansthebomb@reddit

Is that because you barely tuned in? Because she has policies, she said them multiple times in media, nobody listened.

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Radical-Efilist@reddit

She does, and I quite frankly think they're pretty good. The problem is, it doesn't matter if you don't make enough of a point for people to learn about them. The fact that Trump to a large degree won the economics issue just on tariffs and "look at my last presidency [before pandemic and large scale war]" tells us that Harris either said the absolute worst of her ideas or didn't put much emphasis on it.

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batmansthebomb@reddit

I'm not sure what else she should have done, started screaming at people?

It was on her website.

It was on her ads.

It was in the debate.

It was in her interviews.

No one listened.

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hundreds_of_sparrows@reddit

I don't think we'll see a major American party run a woman in decades. they've proven to fail. (I voted for her)

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1960somethingbatman@reddit

I've seen lots of people say he onky won because sexism, but honestly? I think this was it. Democrate were stuck picking their weakest candidate because with Biden dropping out, they'd lose all their election funds if it didn't go to the other person currently on the ticket when those funds were raised.

She did well during the Trump/Kamala debate, but bombed most of her other interviews (ex. FOX, and that Townhall Q&A). Mostly because she just wouldn't answer any questions.

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Rakoor_11037@reddit

And the "I'm from a middle class family" ofc.

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fresh_dyl@reddit

Person who wasn’t paying attention doesn’t know anything they didn’t hear from social media

More at 11

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hein-e@reddit

Tbf of you are not tuned in, you only get to see the clickbaity viewfarming stuff. Shockingly talking thats mostly trumps opinion on anything

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JoeyTesla@reddit

America would rather take ANY other MALE candidate other than trump

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reallygreat2@reddit

Women < Trump < any other man

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le_fancy_walrus@reddit

If I had a nickel for every time Trump beat a female candidate, I'd have two nickels...

...which, isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

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reallygreat2@reddit

It's weird he can't beat men.

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MrInfinity-42@reddit

Twitter has gotten so angry and evil recently that I deleted it from my phone but I'm very tempted to look at it again

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DreadPirateRobarts@reddit

And Reddit isn’t evil and angry? All I see is “I HATE YOU REPUBLICAN ILLITERATE F*CKS” everywhere.

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MrInfinity-42@reddit

Might be a you thing. I'm not following any political subreddits (and most of them prohibit political posts) so I barely see any election posts. On twitter it's pretty much unavoidable at this time

Any angry comments get down voted and hidden automatically, as opposed to twitter blue checkmarks getting engagement boost

But I'm not even talking about the presidency. Twitter has just become a very angry place in general. All there is nowadays is a pointless drama, endless arguments about nonsense topics. No more silly funny posts, all just negativity and hate

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tallspartan117@reddit

I'm not either but the popular page on Reddit is crazy. Half the popular page is ppl having mental breakdowns about it lol

Bro I saw a comment saying something like 1984 starts now with 1.5k upvotes crazy 💀

Also a lot of the sub reddits are modded by the same ppl that will just sensor you for having the wrong opinion. Probably why reddit is the way it is. It isn't a place for free speech.

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MrInfinity-42@reddit

Popular page of reddit is a pile of garbage election period or not

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10TheKing10@reddit

And porn, don’t forget all the porn

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dadat13@reddit

The last few weeks, reddit as a whole was pushing kamala propaganda.

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MrInfinity-42@reddit

Both sides have propaganda depending on where you look

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3DollarMeat@reddit

It's pretty funny watching the meltdowns after they've spent the last eight years swinging that superiority complex around. Turns out insisting that you're just better than the other guy in every way leads to one hell of a reality check if the other guy wins.

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mouthfullpeach@reddit

nothing wrong with being republican, the american parties are basically the same anyways. the problem, however, lies with the fact that trump is a felon cult leader whose dementia is starting to show pretty badly. people that vote for specifically him deserve the hate. hope you went voting tho!

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

And it's fucking justified.

There's people for whom the Obama care repealing will be a death sentence and women who will live with chronic pains from not having medication that is also used in abortions

Not to speak of all the women who will die from pregnancy complications

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micheldrets420@reddit

It’s just blaze of glory pats on the back and people saying, I was right all along, pretending they know shit. Just extensions of Trumpisms. If team blue would’ve won, it would be the reverse situation here on reddit probably

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Logan7Identify@reddit

To be fair the beatings weren't always part of his sexual assaults - sometimes he just went straight in with the kiss or grope. Also, the 13 year old was a few years shy of womanhood - though he did beat her good.

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SacredBuster@reddit

Real and straight

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LuckiKunsei48@reddit

So what's going to happen next?

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hereyagoman@reddit

Government sectors going to get dismantled and turned private (FAA, post office). Foreign aid going away, bye bye Ukraine. More aggressive posturing towards China, trade with EU will drop. Day to day life will remain unchanged unless something up there directly impacts you. Prices aren't going down, home prices aren't changing and unemployment isn't falling.

Business as usual for investors

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IFightPolarBears@reddit

Day to day life will remain unchanged unless something up there directly impacts you

Tariffs on everything will effect all.

Get ready for 10-30% inflation day 1 from them alone.

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MustardSardines@reddit

Oh no we will be shining the spotlight more on American manufacturing and not relying solely on foreign goods, what will we do!

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IFightPolarBears@reddit

Raising tariffs across the board isn't looking out for American manufacturing.

It's just hurting American consumers.

Trump's 2016 tariffs didn't help American manufacturing.

what will we do!

Pay higher prices, and make sure it stays in coffers locked away from the middle class sinking them further into poverty and despair.

This shouldn't even be a question, it's basic economics.

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Toltolewc@reddit

This exactly.

Where does American manufacturing get its raw materials? Not everything in the chain is/can be made here. Some things just have to be imported. Variable costs go up so either it eats your margins and hurt your bottom line, or you raise prices and people buy less of your goods and hurt your bottom line

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Furryyyy@reddit

Democrats also fucked up by throwing immigrants under the bus. Immigrants are THE option to see lower prices in grocery stores, and the Dems chose to appeal to isolationists instead. Now we're not only going to see higher input costs, but higher labor costs. Honestly, our hope is that he's too incompetent to get anything done, kinda like his first term.

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Available_Surround12@reddit

you mean republicans ??

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GodSwimsNaked@reddit

You’d piss and shit if you had to pay American wages for your products now. Oh well. You voted for it.

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kamikazecow@reddit

Huge labor shortage after the deportations too, so add that into the inflation too.

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lichtblaufuchs@reddit

If you are a US citizen, it seems delusional to think your life won't noticably change for the worse

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Grabsch@reddit

It's getting worse since 2001. What's your point?

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Riskypride@reddit

It seems more delusional to be a US Citizen and still think he’s gonna actually get the rest of our checks and balances to agree with his dumbass ideas

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llamawithguns@reddit

R's won both houses of Congress and we have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

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Pengawolfs07@reddit

he’s got all three branches my brotha

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Marik-X-Bakura@reddit

Sure, if you ignore everything getting worse for women and minorities and only rich white Americsn men benefitting from anything

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3DollarMeat@reddit

stop drinking the koolaid.

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EdgeOrnery6679@reddit

foreign aid going away

Nah, all the foreign aid will just go to Israel

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Testing_things_out@reddit

It would be interesting to see, if nothing else.

!Remindme 4 years.

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leebenjonnen@reddit

Prices are going up if he does tariffs

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ninjaian06@reddit

yea, and the worst part people who voted for him under the idea that harris will raise taxes and prices fail to realize that he'll raise taxes as well.

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TheyCallMeMrMaybe@reddit

That's exactly what the tariffs will be. He may not increase middle-class income taxes, but tariffs will put a fresh, insurmountable tax burden on everyone except millionaires. All while he promises the biggest tax cuts to billionaires in the country's history.

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kingalbert2@reddit

Surely the man backed by the richest 2 Americans won't do anything to benefit only the richest right?

Right?

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Halcyon_156@reddit

For some reason this concept is unfathomable to the majority of the American population.

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ninjaian06@reddit

too many people believe that the ultra rich are gonna use their money to benefit society.

you know damn well they won't

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FlyingVentana@reddit

the good old golden shower trickle-down economics

many such cases

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TheyCallMeMrMaybe@reddit

How else do they stay rich?

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komali_2@reddit

Aggressive posture towards PRC unlikely, Trump is trivially manipulated by strongman posturing. Remember when kim jong unf sent him a fuckhuge love letter in a cartoonishly big envelope and he gushed about it?

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IrregularrAF@reddit

Post Office will collapse in months if privatized. 😂 Have you seen the losses? I'm literally a mailman and to no surprise this is exactly what they want.

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Superkritisk@reddit

Nothing really, a more isolationist America, and more statesrights is prob what we're going to see.

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Thijsniet@reddit

And an economical depression if Trump does his tariff thing

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Brasil1126@reddit

America could cut all of its commercial ties with other nations and it would still be ok, America is the number 1 industry in the world stop talking bullshit

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Blueblough@reddit

No we couldn't lol.

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leebenjonnen@reddit

A huge economical depression if he does it. He probably wont do it though and it was just a talking point to get the uneducated voters on his side.

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paco-ramon@reddit

American Pedro Sánchez, don’t expect a lot of separation of powers.

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Keyser_Imperator@reddit

Nothing ever happens

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Riskypride@reddit

^ unironically

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CandidateMiserable74@reddit

Dang , dem subs are really quiet today

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Spectus1@reddit

Bots died

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Steggysauruss@reddit

paychecks disappeared

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NuclearWinter_101@reddit

Harry Sisson on a major copium high. He’s gonna have to get a real job.

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MarinLlwyd@reddit

time to get TOPPED

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hails8n@reddit

Can’t even have a moment of silence for the death of America without some chuds wondering why their lives are so empty without us.

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Personal-Barber1607@reddit

He grabbed em right by the pussy alright.

He does what he said they just let him do it and he even fucked then afterwards.

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BiasHyperion784@reddit

Running that many bots isn’t cheap.

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urboijesuschrist@reddit (OP)

Literally, it feels so quiet now

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Somedude522@reddit

In general its quiet. No more ads. No more yabbering about how “actually erm my candidate will cuz of this picture”. I didnt want him to win but it is what it is.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Yeah, I dont get the total meltdown doom and gloom either. It sucks sure, but unless the mfer rewrites the constitution, I think we'll be alright.

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altiuscitiusfortius@reddit

Don't think there isn't a good chance of that happening. He has the power to now.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Doubt 60 million Americans will sit by and allow that to happen. Roe v Wade is one thing, the Constitution is a completely different beast.

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altiuscitiusfortius@reddit

What will they do? Storm the white house? Threaten to elect democrats next election?

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thegraybusch@reddit

2 more scotus seats are likely. No matter what your personal politics it's not good for scotus to be this heavily one way.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Well if that happens and no one riots or nothing happens, America gets exactly what it asked for.

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thegraybusch@reddit

That's how scotus is set up. It's not illegal.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Then can Democrats really blame anyone when the opposition abuses it like they should have? Technically Biden can throw trump in prison literally right now and claim it as presidential action.

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thegraybusch@reddit

I know but they still for some reason are trying to uphold some sense of decorum.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Yeah, which is a total fucking joke move at this stage. They are welcoming a felon into the White House, and honestly, I'm tired of caring about it. This set back the democratic party an entire decade, and it's gonna be a shit ton of work to piece it back together. Frankly, I'm not going to contribute this time around. Seriously, fuck this.

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bexohomo@reddit

Except the fact the entire government is red now. Constitution is as good as the ones who choose to uphold it. We'll see.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

True. But you also have to remember that majority made this happen. I really don't think 60+ million Americans are trying to destroy their own homes. Reddit likes to play it like that (and I voted blue straight-ticket), but seriously, I don't think this is the end of the world. If history tracks, people will be tired of red bullshit and vote blue next election, just like it has happened dozens of other times.

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bexohomo@reddit

I don't think it's about willfully trying to destroy their country, I think it's the lack of understanding. Ask anyone how our branches of government work, a normal bro isn't gonna know. Education is subpar, and we're definitely seeing the effects of No Child Left Behind.

The difference now than any other red wave we've had, is that there are extremists in this one.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Yeah I see your point. But even with extremists, there are enough levelheaded people to not allow this country to devolve into complete chaos or dystopian nightmare. We have a few awful hiccups, sure, but look at our history too. Slavery is arguably the worst thing this country has ever done and we beat that. We will beat whatever bullshit happens too.

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bexohomo@reddit

I agree... But to get rid of slavery, we had to kill each other.

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Pound-of-Piss@reddit

Either side pushes too much and it'll come to that once again. Hopefully not.

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Narcofeels@reddit

“U GUUUYYSS LOOK SHE EATING DORITOS SHES JUST LIKE US”

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Somedude522@reddit

Goes the other way too. Ppl flamed trump for the eating the dogs bit and my response was “ok but that really doesnt mean alot about his actually policy even if it was stupid” and I just had a friend who sent me a video of Kamala being cringe and did the EXACT SAME SHIT. ppl are really bad at knowing what they actually wanna vote for.

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11122233334444@reddit

The Obama astroturfing machinery has been turned off for three years now

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ujelly_fish@reddit

It’s not bots we’re just sad and don’t want to think about it, for the most part. I’m just addicted to this shit and predicted a Trump victory weeks ago so I’m not surprised by this at all

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BustingAfatnut69@reddit

And the mods even changed the sub's banner and profile picture back to normal lmao.

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Kroisoh@reddit

I knew I wasn't high, coz I remember suddenly seeing blue background and Kamala banner yesterday. And in a few hours it was just back to green.

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BustingAfatnut69@reddit

I was also puzzled when i saw kamala as the sub's banner.

Would post the screenshots but the mods turned off the picture comment option because of the cat meme

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AlocatedPlane@reddit

Can you post it to imgur and link it please? Also literally 1984

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Kroisoh@reddit

I don't screenshot everything to anticipate a future need for a "gotcha". But I am very sure that this happen,

But I could wager a bet for sure. If I defamed the mods here, as long as the mods can show any sort of "time-lapse" proof I was wrong, they can permaban me from this sub.

Also, I hovered on the banner or something like that at that time, a text box was shown and said something along the lines of banner to stay until 6th November 2024 at some time some time. That was my memory, I guess some other people could attest to that too. I checked that because I thought I accidentally entered another political sub that I was actively trying to hide from.

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Kroisoh@reddit

Exactly, I already tried to turn off the major subs to avoid reading political ads/news and still the slipped in the cracks. Yea, mod, good for you that you went out and voted or whatever, but not everyone is American.

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11122233334444@reddit

You’re right that not everyone is American, especially democrats.

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BustingAfatnut69@reddit

but not everyone is American.

But sadly most of the major subs have American mods so they think everyone else in the world gives a fuck about their politics.

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Kroisoh@reddit

Very true, even if I give a shit, I know where to find you guys and their political takes. They are so abundant in Reddit, this domain expansion is not needed.

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fuckitymcfuckfacejr@reddit

To be clear, this is what normal people do when the election ends, whether your candidate wins or loses. The only people who continually parade that shit around outside campaign times are people who have their entire identities wrapped up in politics.

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Intelligent_Meat@reddit

Considering what this sub is I thought the mods were being funny

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therealEverynot@reddit

One of the mods made and pinned a post showing how greentext has more subscribed users than the 4chan subreddit and celebrating about beating bigots. They absolutely were not trolling.

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AsherFennec@reddit

that was the previous owner and they've been gone for months lmao

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therealEverynot@reddit

Good to hear, and to be fair does anyone keep outside of the mod group keep track of who's who?

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BustingAfatnut69@reddit

Maybe but considering this is reddit there's a 50/50 chance they were serious lol.

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CloudyRiverMind@reddit

Look at the teachers subreddit.

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WintersbaneGDX@reddit

Okay, sidebar for a moment:

I'm no Trump voter, but I'll always look for a silver lining. If Trump is the new emperor, all the bots are dead, and the dems are shell shocked, can we please bring back some of the better porn subs?

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mischievous_shota@reddit

Reddit still wants to appeal to investors and advertisers, so it won't happen.

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Idontpayforfeetpics@reddit

And brapbarn

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herpitusderpitus@reddit

They want to ban porn in project 2025 or w.e its called.

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v3rmilion@reddit

Project 2025 plans to ban porn though

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SleepingPodOne@reddit

I like how after a Trump win, the only thing on your mind is “what does this mean for my gooning?”

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WintersbaneGDX@reddit

What do you want me to say? I miss the good old days of amateur content before it got reclassified as "revenge pornography".

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ThrowRAIdiotLover007@reddit

You should ropemaxx

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trainedfor100years@reddit

Cars remain unfucked

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the-poopiest-diaper@reddit

Dems were quiet at the polls. I did my part, I voted. Like 15 million others didn’t pick up the slack. This election was an even bigger fuck up than 2016 for us!

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blazehazedayz@reddit

Enjoy it while it lasts. In a few days the sub IQ American populous will start blaming repubs for everything and then you can start shitting your pants again about a blue wave.

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Dense-Scholar-2843@reddit

sooooo your’re just gonna ignore these?

r/TrumpVirus r/LincolnProject r/meidastouch r/enoughtrumpspam r/liberal r/neoliberal

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paco-ramon@reddit

Just like the Texans that were going to turn the State blue.

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Georgevic07@reddit

Wasn't this sub like this yesterday? Like i saw the icon blue with Harris as banner

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BustingAfatnut69@reddit

Yes

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gbuub@reddit

Mods are scrambling to get to the copium store

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gr4vitycamilla@reddit

What's with subs having to show off their support for certain canditates? r/greentext fell off.

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Mesarthim1349@reddit

You're not wrong. Remember last week there was a thread here about a right-winger who couldn't get with his crush and it had thousands of upvotes and commenters saying they'd never sleep with someone who votes a certain way? Never expected r/greentext to be like that lol

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Phendrana-Drifter@reddit

I'd never expect anyone who posts here or on 4chan to sleep with someone in their first place

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HippoIllustrious2389@reddit

I haven’t slept with anyone since I started reading greentext

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IrregularrAF@reddit

Nobody I haven't paid twice their rate for the ick factor at least.

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cannedrex2406@reddit

Redditors acting like they have options for people to sleep with is hilarious

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Wesley_Skypes@reddit

Well we always have your mom so that's technically an option

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cannedrex2406@reddit

Sorry can't, lines too big

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Wesley_Skypes@reddit

My mom > your mom, this is very true

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ThePassiveGamer@reddit

No worries, it was all fake and gay to begin with.

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_Maybe_-@reddit

It's kind of funny your comment is collapsed

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volichair@reddit

I feel like a lot of us are just exhausted at this point.

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Willis_is_This@reddit

Yeah, most funerals are quiet.

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thelastsandwich@reddit

pics sub is active today

https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/new/

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Kamikaze_koshka@reddit

Every front page sub is nothing but drumpf, Hickory and Cockula. I hate this site.

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Foxhound220@reddit

They finally realized Reddit is nothing but an echo chamber and doesn't represent real world and what real people thinks.

One could only hope.

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Foxhound220@reddit

They finally realized Reddit is nothing but an echo chamber and doesn't represent real world and what real people thinks.

One could only hope.

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Liborum@reddit

Reddit does feel different today doesn’t it. What now?

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seergaze@reddit

Finally no more astroturfing

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DarkShadow_99@reddit

The mods deleted my post. They are really pissed that Harris lost the election

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urboijesuschrist@reddit (OP)

Update: my reddit is finally loading, I thought the post was being heavily downvoted for some reason and comments weren't coming in but now they're all coming. Probably just a ton of traffic coming to the site

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urboijesuschrist@reddit (OP)

This post feels crazy shadowbanned, is reddit down?

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TheGoblinKingSupreme@reddit

No, I think so many Americans on this site are just that disheartened about the left losing.

I’m glad, personally. As a non-American, it’s been months of constant political echochamber, even where it wasn’t warranted. Hopefully this’ll teach people that their echochamber bullshit doesn’t do a thing and they’re not actually engaging in political discourse or discussion, they’re just ruining the site for everyone else.

I’ll need a very large bucket of popcorn for this.

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nut_nut_november___@reddit

Well they are still coping saying it's just a red mist bro it ain't 2020 covid times anymore

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vjmdhzgr@reddit

It's been 40 minutes and it has 15 comments.

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urboijesuschrist@reddit (OP)

My reddit isn't loading so I'm not seeing the numbers lol

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Nikitka0009@reddit

I think some subs removed upvoting for recent posts for obvious reasons

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Guys, I think he means sub as in submissive (they like to be beaten)

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OhioAssassin@reddit

Going off the past three election stats, it suggests that most Hispanic and African Americans are hesitant to vote for a woman

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AMurkypool@reddit

Seeing the reddit meltdown is gonna be glorious

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OwO-tism@reddit

me when i put personal spite over the actual people in danger by this election

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3DollarMeat@reddit

stop drinking the kool aid.

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OwO-tism@reddit

im german, this isn't gonna affect me too much unless a thermonuclear missile lands on my head, but there may or may not be some history for comparable political figures here

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

Oh yes how glorious.

People melting down over the prospect of dying from pregnancy complications.

You're a pos

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

we have one here

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GwornoGiowovanna@reddit

you really #owned him bro, i too care more about seeing stupid liberals get offended than the fate of the country 🤘🤘🤘🤘

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Skillr409@reddit

Where are the 80 million Joe Biden voters ? They are about 14 000 000 short right now. Did they stay at home or did they never exist in tge first place ?

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keeleon@reddit

They died of old age.

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3DollarMeat@reddit

They were already voting from the morgue or a coma last time though

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IcyStormDragon@reddit

A lot of them thought that refusing to vote for Kamala because of Israel was somehow gonna lead to something good for Palestine. Now the dumbfucks get to watch Trump bomb the crap out of Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Iran.

Basically, they fell for the idiotic idea that not voting would somehow yield a result they wanted.

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Skillr409@reddit

That's what the Caledonian Kanaks did. They had a referendum for independance from France but boycotted the vote over something anecdotical. Now they are french forever lol

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gintoki_1513@reddit

I'm not even American but I'm looking forward to the redditors meltdown.

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ICoraxI@reddit

Look no further than this thread fam

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Karen-vaxx-nope@reddit

Moving to Europe (I was planning on it anyway)

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Many_Parfait9113@reddit

B-but Reddit told me he was going to loss 😞

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FrostyWhile9053@reddit

If she had entered the running from the start she would have won

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DontYouWantMeBebe@reddit

She did no unscripted interviews and laughed too much, unless that changed she was always going to lose

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Lost_And_NotFound@reddit

I watched Pete Buttigieg debate undecided voters on a Jubilee YouTube video and just couldn’t imagine Harris doing anything like that.

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mischling2543@reddit

They're gonna put up AOC instead in 2028 and she's gonna lose because now there's a curse on female candidates

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Darren_McReynolds@reddit

That was great, if only there was more of that from the candidate

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_Zezz@reddit

I saw her losing as soon as she became a candidate.

Say what you want about joe, he at least was a meme gold mine and was memorable.

Meanwhile Kamala is just another political NPC.

That's all that matters nowadays. You cannot have a non-controversial figure as your candidate or you'll lose, as people won't pay attention to them and forget about whatever they talk about.

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

She also didn't had any agenda or backbone. She had 0 ideas which came from here and no plan how to actually implement them. And she was promising to push some laws when she is already in the office (a bit pathetic).

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Fanfics@reddit

She scripted the Fox interview?

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ReallyDumbRedditor@reddit

She had the script memorized in her head and just kept repeating the same lines over and over, while basically telling Baier to "STFU and let me finish" every few seconds.

Such amazing interview skills.

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mymemesnow@reddit

I think Trump being on Joe Rogan and Harris choosing not to be on is a good representation.

Trump used every trick in the book (including super unethical ones) to gather votes. Harris was way to mellow to beat that.

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CyberneticSaturn@reddit

That’s some powerful delusion. She had something like 7% of democrats in the 2020 primary and didn’t change her campaign style at all, really.

Just a bad candidate.

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FrostyWhile9053@reddit

She had almost 50% in the 2024 and she only had around 100 days to prepare

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hazzmg@reddit

No. She would have been destroyed in the primary debates by the more confident and capable on the spot public speakers in the dems. She got piss all first time around the primaries and was a dei hire. In all honesty the pure cantankerous and arrogance of Biden and his family to not step down waaay earlier set this result in stone

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etheran123@reddit

In all honesty the pure cantankerous and arrogance of Biden and his family to not step down waaay earlier set this result in stone

This was my take away too. The whole situation just makes it clear how incompetent the democratic party is. That isnt necessarily a surprise, but yesterday made it painfully obvious.

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F-Lambda@reddit

She would have been destroyed in the primary debates by the more confident and capable on the spot public speakers in the dems

don't know why you're getting downvoted, this is literally what happened in 2016

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DanOfMan1@reddit

Harris won her CA senate seat in 2016, she only ran for pres in 2020

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coconut-duck-chicken@reddit

Because its not 2016

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NoImprovement439@reddit

She's still just as bad

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coconut-duck-chicken@reddit

She was bad, but undeniably more confident

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NoImprovement439@reddit

I didn't think it helped. She's really just super uncharismatic, which in politics takes precedence over everything. She's not quick on her feet and even failed to shine in favourable circumstances.

If they could turn the time back, i think they'd probably just refuse to do any interviews and public appearances after the debate and just hope for the best.

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coconut-duck-chicken@reddit

Shoulda just gotten me to wear her skin suit ida done it

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Sandpaper_Dreams@reddit

Isn’t it also what happened in 2020 as well? Considering she spent the whole time calling Joe Biden insults and then redacted all of them once she got the nomination

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MobWacko1000@reddit

And this is based on what exactly?

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FrostyWhile9053@reddit

He has been campaigning for a total of 2 years and he she was only campaigning for a little over a hundred days and it was pretty damn close

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unusualyardbird@reddit

Classic loser talk.

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Plus3d6@reddit

I honestly think she got in the race too soon. Everyone was jazzed that it wasn't gonna be Joe. Then the good faith of her being a "generic dem" wore off real quick when everyone realized she was just going to keep the Gaza genocide going and do fuck all for trans people.

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123YooY321@reddit

As opposed to keep the genocide going and also persecute trans people like trump is

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FinestCrusader@reddit

This was so simple yet so many democrats and progressives didn't get it. It's not about good guy vs bad guy, it's about very bad guy vs less bad guy. They were so caught up in their enlightenment that they didn't vote Harris and that helped propel orange man to the finish line.

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CaesarWilhelm@reddit

Yeah but different from Dems the people voting Trump don't care about that

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epic-dad@reddit

Thoroughly, comprehensively, continuously and relentlessly /s

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MobWacko1000@reddit

"do fuck all for trans people"

I doubt anyone really cares

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Ryzakiii@reddit

Fully fucking agree

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aximeycu@reddit

I’d say the green text is the person I’d be worried about

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TheFatHat@reddit

Strength of schedule merchant, got swept by a decrepit old man and could only dunk on Harris and Clinton

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ikkkwatwan@reddit

i'm happy that trump won, the neocon ideology will start to be irreleveant. also the dems getting pissed is funny as hell

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P41N90D@reddit

Women can do better.

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kerm1tthefrog@reddit

Yeah, imagine this incompetent idiot being first woman president, what a disgrace for all smart and capable women.

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mouthfullpeach@reddit

hm 34 count racist felon or woman?

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Deprespacito@reddit

Of course, he represents his people well.

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Asscrackistan@reddit

Chris Brown was in his corner.

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

That people are quite ready to vote for a clown

But voting for something just becaues it doesn't have a dick is quite a lot to ask, I mean it's a circus but being sexist on top of that?

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Radio_Global@reddit

Woman yes but awful ones.

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Ill1thid@reddit

Donald "The Lady Killer" Trump.

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Jakeit_777@reddit

Third time's the charm, I guess.

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FallenSegull@reddit

Alright, I’m a man who can give credit where it’s due. Well done anon, that was a fucking hilarious observation

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KAAAAAAAAARL@reddit

Can we get an Impeachment speedrun again? Surely they wont let a Serial Sex Offender into the Office, right?

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TroublingRain-@reddit

I knew she wasn't gonna win cuz all her interviews started with I am from middle class family, way too much laughing, scripted interviews, pro gender change(most people i know are against these gender lgbt stuff and call it r3t@rded).again way too much laughing

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