I appreciate the back-and-forth.

Amber Thurman, while I understand the point you’re making with the influx of patients at this clinic and the inconvenience aspect, I do think it was her responsibility to be sure she accounted for traffic to be on time for her surgery. I would say the same thing for anyone with any surgery, or for example, when taking a flight. These things are directly within your control and there are consequences for being late to something like a flight, much less something as severe as a surgery. Like, would you be late for a heart surgery? I’d assume not. The same precautions should be taken with an abortion.

I think it’s both really tragic that she died and also something that was preventable, namely by either the doctoral team in Georgia OR the out-of-state clinic that could have delayed/rescheduled her appointment. I think abortion clinics severely underplay the potential complications seen from medical abortions, the fact that they prescribed it to her AND she had twins is crazy to me. She also could have been on time for her appointment, but even then, I don’t think her death was of course her OWN doing. I think it’s on the clinic and on the hospital.

Candi Miller, IDK. I’m still a virgin because I’ve chosen to abstain from sex until I’m certain I’m prepared for a child, cuz even with contraceptives, there will always be a chance of a child coming out of that act. So I DO believe it’s confusing. Not saying it’s realistic to expect of others, but it IS an aspect of this case where it’s logically like…why would you do that.

And yeah, I’d judge men just as hard if they could get pregnant. I still judge men for being irresponsible participants and/or deadbeats tho.

I feel for the family. I don’t expect women to know every piece of legislation but all it took was like. 30 mins on wikipedia for me to know what’s what for every state. It’d take way less time for someone to look at just their own state. I think abortion clinics can help people by being a resource that explains abortion laws for a person’s state, like that XYZ care should be provided, maybe help arrange this on behalf of a patient. Not sure if abortion clinics currently do that, but it would be a good resource to provide for people. I just don’t see how I can logically blame a new law being misunderstood by practicing on anyone but practitioners and the people who have perpetuated the fearmongering and misinformation in the first place.