It took one of the worst libertarian performances to get ron Paul into the white house
Posted by Me_MeMaestro@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 31 comments
Congratulations to Oliver, he's helped get a true libertarian into what's hopefully a position to cut this bloated government
natermer@reddit
Trump actively courted Libertarians this time around. 1-3% of the vote matters.
I am not going to hold my breath though. The guy is a fraud.
LeBeauMonde@reddit
Even if that is true, Trump also courted the Conservative Nationalist faction of the Republican Party— to the extent of making Vance his running mate. Vance has given numerous speeches explicitly against libertarian ideals, even one called “Beyond Libertarianism.” From all I’ve seen, the Conservative Nationalists are not the republicans of past years (they reject Reagan as an ideal); their call has been for more government, not less — stronger regulations, only in different areas.
Trump may give little hints and nods that people can use to connect dots and come up with some sort of libertarian agenda, but he’s been much more explicit about his excitement over Big State projects, such as foreign wars, tariffs, deportations, etc.. Those have been his rallying cries.
Trump may bring about a few outcomes of which libertarians can approve, as could any candidate. It quickly becomes a “purity test” about what is really libertarian. So far, his record and rhetoric more closely align with Nationalism, and promises of sneering victories in the “Culture War.”
These 11th hour rumors about slashing certain departments are interesting, we will soon see what substance they hold. To the extent libertarian ideas align with his macho-nationalism, there may be some crossover. And, of course, Trump doesn’t always get into the details, some people he promotes might pursue market-oriented or anti-regulatory aims. It may largely depend on how well the Nationalists fare under his administration. His first term saw a volatile changing of the guard every few months.
huapua9000@reddit
So you guys really believe Ron Paul is going to be able to do anything in the Trump administration? I’ll believe it when I see it, but some of you are acting like Ron Paul was elected because of a tweet between Ron Paul and Elon Musk.
aztracker1@reddit
I'm cautiously optimistic. At 50yo it's the first time in my life I've seen any lip service to libertarian values that has even a loose chance of bearing fruit.
Judging from Twitter/X, if Elon does get any actual authority, I can see it happening. It will take Congress and it will have to move quickly to get through before the mid terms.
TheFishyNinja@reddit
Nobody thinks that Trump magically turned into a libertarian, but if Ron Paul fucking sneezes within a quarter mile of the white house only good things will come from his influence. I'm not expecting much but it's better than the nothing we've had the last few years
Sea_Journalist_3615@reddit
They got conned. Maybe I will be wrong but if any of these people are over 30 they should know better.
Nubraskan@reddit
Surprised the good doctor even replied. I know he still massively disagrees with Trump and much of what Trump has done.
I also know he has always been open to coalitions for progress wherever he can take it, but responding to a tweet days before election seems so political and calculated.
Alas, if Ron taught me anything, it's to never trust a politician. Even him.
Build decentralized systems that don't rely on CEOs. Empower your local governments over state and federal. Find solutions that don't require electing a good-actor or subscribing to a good CEO. These things exist and people of this sub should be champions of them.
TheAzureMage@reddit
Likely not. It's wishful thinking. All Ron said was that he was willing to chat with Elon about his idea. I'm sure that is true. It isn't a promise of a cabinet position.
I hope that Ron does manage to get his ideas in the ear of folks willing to run with them, but the guy's up there in age. He deserves his retirement.
zzt0pp@reddit
No, he is just too old and he declined any official position already. I am very sure he would act as an 'advisor'—like you call him up and he will answer some questions—but that's about it. It is a sham that he would be more than that, and he also stated his positions on things are already well known.
Pkmn_Gold@reddit
No he’s not lmao people are gullible here
0verkast@reddit
I'd be surprised if he ever even sets foot inside white house for even a photo op
ThinkSignature@reddit
To me it’s an absolute win
Medewu2@reddit
I can't believe I am in a timeline where I get to see Ron Paul AUDIT THE F UCKING FEDERAL RESERVE
LawsOfEconomics@reddit
Not gonna happen. Hope I’m wrong.
BigAl265@reddit
For me, this is honestly the best part of the whole election.
RebelliousStripes_@reddit
It’s the only important part of this election
Grenata@reddit
It's an important one, but hard disagree on the only important part. Freedom-loving appointees throughout government, libertarian-leaning policies, federal judges, etc. all portent well for liberty in the U.S.
Medewu2@reddit
Only if DJT keeps his word... so we shall see.
legal_opium@reddit
I hope so
interwebzdotnet@reddit
People are so dumb, I'm sorry. Ron Paul will not be part of the administration, and even if he was he's not the yes guy that Trump wants so he would never listen to anything he says.
SpaceyEngineer@reddit
This will not happen and Trump will install a new fed chair that will be go back to buying up MBS and UST, I guarantee it
mmic0033@reddit
Not gonna get my hopes up. Now hing is confirmed. But this is definitely the closest we have ever been to an overhaul of the financial system as Ron Paul taught us about.
I am actually excited to see how this presidency goes.
ecleipsis@reddit
Assuming any of this actually happens, let’s hope Ron Paul can talk some sense into Trump and educate him on tariffs.
Jay_R_Kay@reddit
Never gonna happen. Trump is only going to get the biggest sycophants and yes men humanly possible.
zzt0pp@reddit
No way. You don't teach an 78 year old like Trump new tricks. His platform is tariffs and always will be.
mmic0033@reddit
I have high doubts it happens. The man is 89 years old. He deserves to retire.
He's already denied an official position. But one can dream :)
KushinLos@reddit
Yeah, weird times
Ulfurson@reddit
I’m surprised at how sure everyone is about this happening. These are politicians we’re talking about here.
Nuknu2@reddit
Oliver was so bad that Rfk still got more votes then him even though Rfk is off most ballots
The_Mauldalorian@reddit
chase oliver, the reverse spoiler hero
confederate_yankee@reddit
The hero nobody wanted… and possibly the one nobody deserved. 😂