Why is republika srpska allowed to exist after what they have done?
Posted by inalibakma@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 44 comments
Srebrenica was an overwhelmingly majority bosniak town before the "war", now it's nearly 50/50 and is ruled by serbs. Isn't this literally what they hoped to achieve?
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
because they wanted and fought for their political autonomy and certainly got it
research what bosnian serbs had to endure throughout the whole bosnian history and you will be ashamed of ur own question.
silverbell215@reddit
By “fought for” you mean displaced and cleansed non-ethnic Serbs from the region.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
by fought i mean fought, they secured 49% of the territory and have political autonomy over it. More as any other ethnic group within Bosnia.
Do you seriosuly ask what Bosnian Serbs had to endure within Bosnia ? Is this a meme question ?
every single occupation was in favour of Bosniaks/Croats of Bosnia, from Turks to the genociding Croats.
here something more recent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Serbs_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia
you should really shame urself for the lack of knowledge you have on ur own country because of hatred
silverbell215@reddit
Let’s not twist things up. Even during the Ottomans, Orthodox folk had more rights and were preferred over the Catholics, so I would say they had it the worst in Bosnia.
At no point in History was a vast majority of that 49% a territory of the of the Serbs, but after essentially making a majority of the areas purely Serb, they claimed their own entity.
From a Moral perspective Republika Srpska shouldn’t exist.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
sure buddy life was good under turks, thats whal all bosniaks claim.
there is no moral in state building, only power and politics, open a history book. Historically RS has every right to exist and secure the interests and political autonomy of bosnian Serbs. Bosnia failed them historically.
take a wider approach
silverbell215@reddit
Never said it was good, you’re twisting what i’m saying. But yea, for Bosniaks, it was better.
Prior to the Ottomans invading the region, the Catholics and Orthodox communities oppressed the Bosnian Church, so I can do some whataboutism too.
To bring up something from 200 years ago in which there was not great statistical evidences has nothing to do with modern day Bosnia.
The Ottomans are essentially the reason why there are so many Serbs in Bosnia today dude.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Bosnian Church ? sure whatever helps you sleep well.
NDH wasnt 200 years ago, it wasnt even a century and it played a major role in the 90s. History doesnt happen in an vacuum, its contiguous. Each event affects the future.
ur the classic bosniak who read a single book from noel malcom (who is heavily based) and thinks he knows the history about Bosnia. So so sad. If you only knew how many sources there wich contradicts his points
if you knew a single bit you wouldnt make such shameful statements and question the right for Bosnian serbs to rule over themself. Bosnian Serbs fought historically way more for the indepedence of Bosnia as Bosniaks, think about that.
silverbell215@reddit
I never mentioned NDH, and I don’t know what most of their crimes have to do with Bosniaks.
I have not read Noel Malcoms work.
Again, Serbs have no claim to land in BiH from a historical standpoint.
And you’re claiming, because Serbs experienced oppression like literally every other ethnic group on the Balkans, that means you have rights to the land?
Destroying civilisation was what made Republika Srpska obtainable for the Serbs and this is fact.
Shameful? What’s really shameful is destroying and butchering people and their homes and then saying it had to be done because of the Ottomans.
You only know how to victimise yourselves. Not once mentioned the crimes of the Cetniks.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
NDH ruled over Bosnia aswell, just like Austria/Hungary and the Ottomans. While NDH were the worst, all favoured Bosniaks, let alone that they helped execute the biggest documented genocide in our region.
Serbs not but Bosnian Serbs do, they fought more for an indepedent Bosnia as Bosniaks. We claim the land we live for centuries.
i dont victimize myself you want to take the automy rights away from Bosnian Serbs who were victim of genoicde within Bosnia not even a century ago. Not even comparable in scale to the 90s. You have yet to bring a valid argument. RS has every right to exist and it will exist aslong Bosnia exists.
shameful is ur little knowledge and hateful position on ur own people in ur country.
enjoy the compromised federation with the croats
i will just relink ur statement again:
Most Serbs I have come across are like this. One moment they say “volim bosnjaci” and with the same mouth say they would kill us if they wanted to.
and you talk about victimization, poor you
silverbell215@reddit
Yes they ruled over Bosnia, but that does not mean they supported the Ustashe. There were Bosniaks who joined the SS Handzar division as a way to feed and provide for their family, many ended up leaving after witnessing the crimes being done and later became partizans.
There were also those who joined after oppression from the Chetniks, who also allied with Nazis to kill and annihilate anyone who wasn’t Serb. Don’t be one sided here, Serbs were just as bad as the Croats during this time.
I don’t hate Serbs and I support a Multicultural and multireligious Bosnia. I don’t support those who victimise themselves when they have committed crimes, and even deny them. It’s hard to live with people who look at Karadzic and Mladic as some hero.
I would love to hear how you feel about Kosovo or sandzak seperating from Serbia based on your own logic.
You claim the land to immigrated to due to the Ottomans. To still be so nationalistic as a 3rd gen Serb is beyond me.
Just looking at the recent war you can see how the Bosnian-Serbs lacked morals. Sniping kids, women and unarmed civilians. Blowing up mosques and destroying history.
Was my statement from a separate post false? Every week news comes out of some Serb saying some madness.
Again, Republika Srpska was gained by getting rid of the local population skewering who lives there. If to you that is normal and right, then that’s you and your lack of morals.
I can see why they calls Serbs the israel of the Balkans.
mistersupersago@reddit
So many Serbian ethnofascists here...
Republika SSrpska is allowed to exist because of racist Islamophobia in Western European and American governments that pushed the Dayton accords right when the Bosnian army was about to retake Banja Luka from the Republika SSrpska fascists - this legitimized the existence of Republika SSrpska as an entity founded on genocide whose mainstream politics are ethnonationalism, Serbian irredentism, and genocide denial.
And to all those who are asking, no, TürKKKiye has no right to exist either. No state does! TürKKKiye is founded on genocide of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks and frequent genocidal campaigns against Kurds in exactly the same way SSrbija is founded on genocide of Albanians. Since 1830 the Serbian state has been expelling Muslims and large Western European empires allow them to get away with it. The Serbian revolution against Ottoman rule started out as a partnership between local Serbs, Albanians, and smaller numbers of Turks, Bosnaks etc. but eventually a Serbian monarchy emerged and decided to turn on the Albanians and other Muslims.
The reason why Republika SSrpska is allowed to exist is because our international leaders have no morality and are happy to relegate Bosna to a forgotten corner of their minds, and allow an entity that exists on genocide - Republika SSrpska - to keep going. Same reason iSSrael, ruZZia or ameriKKKa is allowed to exist, same reason any state founded through genocide is allowed to exist.
doinkbonker@reddit
Deranged lmao
Stverghame@reddit
Why is Turkey allowed to exist after what it done? Why is Croatia allowed to exist? Why is Germany allowed to exist?
Get the fuck off with your biased views, just because of your "Bosniak brothers".
inalibakma@reddit (OP)
Least butthurt serb
I asked a neutral fucking question regard
Stverghame@reddit
It is not neutral at all, Turk.
You are not the judge of what should or should not exist. First look at your own yard.
inalibakma@reddit (OP)
I was asking a QUESTION stephan
i'm fucking shocked by the replies im getting lmao, fucking insane
mistersupersago@reddit
I am also shocked by these replies. Republika Srpska'yi destekleyenler insanlar bile mi? So many people seem so happy to defend genocide of Bosnians by saying "but what about Armenians".
Most Armenian scholars recognize the Bosnian genocide, and most Bosnian scholars recognize the Armenian genocide. Most Armenian and Bosnian scholars also have better things to do than post Serb ethnonationalist drivel on Reddit.
godessPetra_K@reddit
Such a stupid post. Serbia will continue to exist so cry about it.
zdubargo@reddit
godessPetra_K@reddit
Don’t mind me I’m gonna take this because I love it.
zdubargo@reddit
Be my guest g, I stole it from someone else anyway
CriticalHistoryGreek@reddit
In all fairness the question is about Srpska.
HeyVeddy@reddit
Yes, it's one of the famous examples where the loser of the war actually gained land
Stverghame@reddit
That's right, Bosniaks - the losers, have way less land than they did pre-war and also they don't have "their own" country which they fought for.
HeyVeddy@reddit
Yeah as someone from Sarajevo i see the result of the war not being in Bosnia's favor at all. No control over country, smaller country, a political enemy that ran military campaigns has their own region and government, etc.
Fickle-Message-6143@reddit
Bosnia's favor or Bosniaks favor's? Also borders are same as in SFRY so how is country smaller?
HeyVeddy@reddit
Within those borders it's effectively two countries and three governments with a random dude above those three governments. It's made to shut everyone up, not made to have a functioning democracy or future development.
arhisekta@reddit
It's allowed to exist because of Elon Musk (he is from Republika Srpska and running it's shadow government)
Ornery_Rip_6777@reddit
Ilija Muskovic and Donaldin Trumic are both from RS.
zla_ptica_srece@reddit
Why is Turkey allowed to exist after what they have done?
FarAd3038@reddit
Why is Serbia allowed to exist after what they have done?
zulum_bulum@reddit
Why is Algeria allowed to exist after what they have done?
FarAd3038@reddit
Why is Slovenia allowed to exist after what they have done?
zulum_bulum@reddit
You really know how to ruin a party man....
FarAd3038@reddit
Sorry 😢😢
zulum_bulum@reddit
It's ok, have a drink and some weed
New_Accident_4909@reddit
For the same reason Croatia exists after crimes by NDH. You cannot possibly condemn entire people for an act.
Maria_506@reddit
??? Cause it was part of the piece agreement?
nikola_3002@reddit
No you’re right, ethnically cleansing other people before settling their land is only allowed in 1915.
GreatshotCNC@reddit
Imagine what'd happen if it wasn't allowed to exist.
Why are such stupid questions allowed to exist? Don't you ever think?
Fickle-Message-6143@reddit
Nice bait, but it has to do something with Serbs being one third population of BiH. Until NATO bombing Serbs controled most of territory in BiH.
And Bosniaks and Croats didn't really have means to do same as Turkey with Armenians and Greek Cypriots. Also Milošević threatened to enter war with Yugoslavian army. Nobody wanted that.
Try googling and watch "Death of Yugoslavia"
AnalysisQuiet8807@reddit
https://youtu.be/rIzX2LjNu_k?si=VpyxZSz6j2TCLpbn
Listen to this song and cry more turk
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vjosa_e_larget@reddit
"Allowed" by whom? It's Eastern Europe dude, you have to show strength to survive.