how is everyone NOT excited about RON FREAKIN PAUL being called into the admin

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fennis@reddit

Lol trump isn’t cutting the size of government. He is a big believer in big government and big government spending as shown when he actually governed and grew government more than anyone before him.

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That first term. However shi don’t happen over night. Look at Vivek he literally very libertarian. So much better then most republican. And trump like him. Trump also endorsed Javier millei in Argentina and Javier is definitely different then him when it comes to to policy

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mmmhiitsme@reddit

Let's invade Mexico Vivek? Raise the voting age Vivek? He's not libertarian. Not even close.

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mecheterp96@reddit

Ron Paul is at the age where he could drop dead any day. What makes you think he will have any influence at all and this isn’t just Trump/Elon just pandering for more votes?

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User_Anon_0001@reddit

So is trump

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human743@reddit

Trump is 89 years old? News to me.

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User_Anon_0001@reddit

One doesn’t need to be 89 to be at an age where they are more likely to drop dead at any moment

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human743@reddit

An 89 yr old can expect 4 years. A 78 year old can expect 9 years. It gets more likely as you age.

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2001asamodyssey@reddit

What about for a fat 78 year old who eats a lot of mcdonalds?

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human743@reddit

Yeah its not great but still statistically will outlive an 89 year old. Jack LaLanne dropped dead at 96 and he was probably the healthiest person that ever lived and had no conditions. Age is a big factor.

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stupdizbu@reddit

One doesn’t need to be 89 to be at an age where they are more likely to drop dead at any moment

this is correct .. Coolio died while taking a shit at the age of 52 because he pushed too hard and had an aneurysm ... or something like that

drink your fiber gents!

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kormer@reddit

That's my thought as well. I love Ron Paul as much as anyone, but who I really want is some forensic accountant who is just old enough to have the experience to know what to do, while being young enough to work the 15 hour days for months on end tracing every transaction.

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RobKAdventureDad@reddit

YES!!!

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TheGreatone_88@reddit

The dude is a dinosaur. A shell of what he once was. When people get to a certain age they’re easier manipulated. Spike Cohen would have been a better choice. 🤷‍♀️

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bongobutt@reddit

I'm not excited because I don't believe it yet. There was quite a lot of rhetoric this campaign cycle. A lot of promises. Many of those promises were conflicting. The old rule of thumb I was told is, "If a politician promises to do something good, they'll break that promise. But if a politician promises to do something terrible, they'll follow through on that promise every time." Call me cynical, but I'll believe it when I see it. There are plenty of other people out there who are excited - and I have no intention of trying to throw any wet blankets. But I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm not putting my faith into these people (meaning Trump or DC). Ron Paul is amazing, and I hope the promises are true. But "hope" as in want. Not "hope" as in, "set myself up for disappointment." If my expectations are low, then I can only be pleasantly surprised.

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motoyolo@reddit

I’ll say this as a 2014-2019 Marine when General Mattis was brought on as SecDef.

I guarantee it’ll be short lived when the person you (rightfully) worship doesn’t get along with the Trump admin. But I’ll take any amount of Ron Paul at any level with the Federal Government

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fucktheredwings69@reddit

Yeah this only came out a couple of days before the election to drum up libertarian support it might not even happen

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EarlBeforeSwine@reddit

It will not happen. Elon Musk (not even Trump) mentioned it in a tweet… so not even a campaign promise, and we all know how believable campaign promises are.

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cc4295@reddit

But Ron Paul did respond to Elon Musk tho, soooo there is a chance

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EarlBeforeSwine@reddit

Did you know that Elon Musk does not have the authority to make Presidential Cabinet appointments?

Not even if Ron Paul also thinks it’s a good idea.

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cc4295@reddit

Thanks for the education mom, but I was just pointing out that Ron Paul seems willing.

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mountaineer30680@reddit

This. Trump famously runs off at the mouth every chance he gets. As soon as Ron wants to cut one of Trump's buddies sacred cows it'll blow up into a shit storm. The good news is Ron will absolutely not back down and say what he thinks, and it will all be very public. So I do have just the tiniest sliver of cautious optimism if it happens.

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Neither-Phone-7264@reddit

You're probably right. Best to hope though.

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Tacoshortage@reddit

I hate that you might be right. Although Trump generally did what he said he would do last go-round.

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motoyolo@reddit

I hope he’s in the equation. Normalize a divine hatred for waste.

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StuntsMonkey@reddit

As a fellow autist from 2008-2013 I feel your pain.

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motoyolo@reddit

Shit was euphoric at the time when it was the three headed monster of General Kelly, Mattis, and Dunford. And that quickly petered out lol

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AbolishtheDraft@reddit

Mattis was absolutely terrible, he resigned because he was upset that Trump wasn't enough of a warmonger, specifically that he wanted to withdraw from Syria

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motoyolo@reddit

I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for Mattis strictly from a Marine perspective.

I don’t hate him because he always advocated for a military solution to questions, it’s literally his entire MO and background as an infantry Officer turned General turned SecDef. He’s not some career politician like Lindsey Graham, the Cheneys, or Hillary who are bought and paid for by the Defense Industry.

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YardChair456@reddit

Hopefully it is Ron Paul, talking to Elon Musk. Trump seems to be very influenced and will listen to someone like musk.

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soonPE@reddit

You are right

But even a week of Ron on the job will do us all much greater good, let alone imagine a month, a year

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Achilles8857@reddit

I think Doge-man will be running interference...

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katiel0429@reddit

Well, politicians are known for their honesty, but something tells me this might’ve been a bit of pandering. -_-

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Beneficial-Two8129@reddit

Ron Paul for Fed Chair. RFK Jr. for CIA director. Huckabee for Treasury Secretary (to help pitch the Fair Tax Act).

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Pirat@reddit

Yes, Trump is kidding you. You know he never pays his bills right? Libertarians ain't getting shit out of this.

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battlepassbattlepass@reddit

it aint gonna happen bro, trump used his ass to get the libertarian vote

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rebeldogman2@reddit

I mean I just don’t believe he will bring Ron Paul in. Why don’t he try to make government smaller last election ? He grew it more than ever just like every politician

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1Shadowgato@reddit

Remember what he did to Gen mattis? Just takes one disagreement and he is out.

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ThinkySushi@reddit

quiet hand raise...I am excited.

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JustColossus@reddit

Ron Paul (and his supporters) deserve every bit of it. Absolute legends

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WhoDey918@reddit

I’m skeptical anything is going to happen. I think it was a ploy by Trump to get independents to vote for him. I don’t think Trump has much desire to slash the government.

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curse_of_rationality@reddit

Trump already had a term and I don't know why people keep thinking its gonna be any different...

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joelfarris@reddit

Not saying anything for or against the guy, but typically, a President's second term accomplishes more, because they don't have to worry about a re-election. Here's hoping this is true again.

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Ehronatha@reddit

Maybe the lawsuits and the assassinations attempts might make things be different?

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Wycked0ne@reddit

The only thing I wonder is that this time around it'll be a lame duck. He doesn't have to worry about reelection and could therefore be a lot more direct with some of his policies.

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MysteriousShadow__@reddit

Yeah one has got to wonder why republicans don't cut government spending when they actually have the power to do so (the governors, too, benefit from big government and high taxes).

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TheFeedMachine@reddit

Not just a full term, but he also had a trifecta for 2 years. He could have passed spending cuts if he wanted to. Instead he passed 1 tax cut and increased spending. Anyone thinking that 89 year old Ron Paul would actually do anything is deluded.

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lordgholin@reddit

I ask the same of people who thought Kamala Harris would do anything different. She even said she wouldn't. We were kind of doomed no matter who won.

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maxwasson@reddit

Same with the promise to free Ross Ulbricht on day one.

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FunStrike343@reddit

Elon did it bud

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MichaelScottsMug@reddit

I would not be surprised to see a fallout between the two of them. Just look at how things turned out with his last administration. Could absolutely see Trump turning on Elon and blaming him for something

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NeighborhoodAdept420@reddit

I still don't know how he and the Republicans have managed to fool people into thinking he's some small government hero when he's obviously no different than the democrats.

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soooooonotabot@reddit

Do you actually think trump will follow through? Even if he does he will probably just fire him over some stupid thibg

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EarlBeforeSwine@reddit

It wasn’t even Trump that said it, it was Elon riffing in a tweet.

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olmek7@reddit

Exactly this

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FunStrike343@reddit

Ron Paul is anti establishment we good

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legal_opium@reddit

Let's see how he treats angela.

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EarlBeforeSwine@reddit

I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

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Thuban@reddit

Anybody remember the revolving door of his last cabinet? Some of them like Gen Mattis didn't have time for his chair to get warm before he was out of it.

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Important-Internal33@reddit

Because I don't trust Trump for shit. I'll believe it when I actually see it, and not a second before. Trump is a fucking scumbag who isn't fit to shine Ron's shoes.

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RoyalRidgeway@reddit

Trump is a business man, and can be convinced if it's either profitable or good for the American people. I'm sure Ron can influence him, when he has his ear.

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FunStrike343@reddit

Most people would not like the idea of appealing the civil right act. They just don’t. So I won’t be surprise if someone can if most people couldn’t vote

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Neither-Phone-7264@reddit

repealing the Civil rights act? what? did he say that?

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YojimboNameless@reddit

yes Ron Paul has said that he doesn't believe the civil rights act was necessary and was an unnecessary intrusion into the private world: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2004/07/ron-paul/the-trouble-with-the-64-civil-rights-act/

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Ordinary-Garbage-685@reddit

I’m just asking, did you read what his message was? His points weren’t wrong, and he’s always been about removing from and not adding to the government. The smaller the the fed the better, and freedoms granted to us in the constitution are more important than virtue signaling. Because that’s what laws like these are. They restrict liberty and promote more hate than they quell. Real change doesn’t come from a law, it comes from the combined effort of the people to change a opinion and shift societial views for the better.

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YojimboNameless@reddit

Yes I've read it, but at this point I don't care about idealistic virtues. We haven't tried to be a better society in 60 years. Our democracy is being eroded and the majority of people seem okay with ceding it to aristocrats and oligarchs. The only direction views have shifted is towards despotism and away from liberty. A bunch of 'do nothing' congresses have only made the situation worse.

My ideals still align with a lot of Paul's, but I don't think anything other than extraordinary efforts towards education, limitations of capital in politics, and congress doing its job will slow the decay in the short term. I also don't think going straight to idealistic anarchy is going to fix the massive wealth gap either, but only intensify the disparity in power.

P.S. Rights are not granted. Rights are inherent.

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FunStrike343@reddit

It not that. Trump have to appealed to massive so if most people couldn’t vote Trump would probably have more libertarian policy

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olmek7@reddit

I’ll believe it when I see it. There are always a lot of promises made during a campaign that don’t actually happen.

He’ll get shelved. Trump is a liar.

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BitsyVirtualArt@reddit

Sorry Chase but this was the right decision.

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Specimen197@reddit

Because Trump and Elon are attached? Not a hard concept to grasp.

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fuckthestatemate@reddit

It's not that we don't want Ron Paul, it's that we don't trust Trump to actually do anything he says

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dbackbassfan@reddit

Trump is Trump. Everything is about him and loyalty to him. I don’t think Ron Paul will have much room to maneuver in that environment.

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douglasrome@reddit

…this didn’t age well 😆

“I reject Ron Paul and I am #sorrynotsorry about it.”

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bulldoggamer@reddit

Because it hasnt happened yet. It's only words at this point. Once its action i will get excited.

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tarapj@reddit

Super excited!

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LectureAdditional971@reddit

It's the only thing that got me to vote the way I did. Better some influence than none at all.

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l1ttlebrittle@reddit

Simply put as everyone has already stated, IF it happens - great. Chances he utilizes him even then, very little.

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Lurial@reddit

Elon and Ron Paul cleaning house!!!!!

I'm practically foaming at the mouth for it!

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blaspheminCapn@reddit

I'll believe it when I see it.

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MattieBattie@reddit

For me, it's the lack of consistency that the Trump administration has. I fear he is just using Ron Paul as a way to get the Libertarians to vote for him and nothing more.

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Low_Abrocoma_1514@reddit

That's the oldest trick in the book but I have some hope it doesn't happen

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Neither-Phone-7264@reddit

!remindme 3 months

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TheWastelandWizard@reddit

Because it's still the Republicans in office and they're still beholden to their own masters. We got some candy, not dinner.

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Exciting_Vast7739@reddit

The Machine is gonna Machine.

That said, the absolute meltdown on Federal employees subreddits is kinda intriguing. They're worried.

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the_cmoose@reddit

Well said

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P-funk88@reddit

Trump will audit the fed in the same manner he released those Kennedy docs.

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phatsuit2@reddit

Excited??? I just popped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ronpaulclone@reddit

Chase Oliver getting 400,000 votes really showing the system who is boss 😂😂😂

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Secure_Ad_9049@reddit

Omg really? I was looking for how much votes he got. Where did you find that?

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ronpaulclone@reddit

Look at the google election results. It’s like 500k now. Less than RFK who isn’t even running.

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Secure_Ad_9049@reddit

In 2020 the libs got 34,000

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Secure_Ad_9049@reddit

Oh dang I see 560,000. Oh shit lol

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Secure_Ad_9049@reddit

What I see says 68,000

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Ulfurson@reddit

Excited about a politicians promise? I’ll hold the excitement for now.

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cadillacjack057@reddit

Orange man can go piss himself in a corner somewhere.

Super excited to think about ron paul being part of the admin tho. If irangey can hire him to start shutting down fed agencies and audit the fed it will be an amazing thing to watch.

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SlasherHockey08@reddit

It won’t happen. Empty promise that they don’t intend to keep.

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Sysop84@reddit

Oh, we ARE FUCKING EXCITED, BABY!

Been waiting many years for something like this to finally happen.

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dbudlov@reddit

It's the only positive thing I've seen in politics for decades

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unwaivering@reddit

I really hope that happens! Like would be incredibly excited if it does!

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Fat_tata@reddit

no way! he was amazing back in the 90’s

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DiegoFlowers@reddit

He is 89 years old, and Trump can either be lying or he's going to choose him and then change him after 1 year or so

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BangkokPadang@reddit

How is Ron Paul doing these days?

I remember him having a stroke on a live TV or livestream or something 4 or 5 years ago.

Hopefully he's well and could be effective.

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Sithlordandsavior@reddit

He still does his show to this day and seems to have better mental acuity than people half his age, to be honest.

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223trinity556@reddit

Got Ron Paul on people's radar again. That's a huge plus for our party!

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Comprehensive-Bus299@reddit

I saw a lot of libertarian reps on the ballot this election. Compared to my last 5 elections I'd say there's solid growth. We mofht get a seat on senate in the near future

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Sithlordandsavior@reddit

And in 500 short years, maybe 2!

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LOSTmyMoney2wice@reddit

I kinda doubt this will happen plus to be fair Paul is getting a little long in the tooth

Amazing guy but still we all have our time

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Appleshaush@reddit

Bc he's 89 years old. It's clearly a gimmick

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castingcoucher123@reddit

We will see if he does the same thing he did to Jeff Sessions

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jasoncongo@reddit

Love me some Ron Paul, but the man is almost 90 and I haven't really heard much from him in 10 years.

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SemperP1869@reddit

End the fed! Ron Paul 2012!

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Rick_Perrys_Asshole@reddit (OP)

you guys are all very very bitter lol

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andyman171@reddit

Well he hasn't yet or did I miss something

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Rick_Perrys_Asshole@reddit (OP)

trump isn't president yet buddy

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andyman171@reddit

Now he is

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jrob112@reddit

Ron Paul involved to any degree with the federal government is a win

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libertarianinus@reddit

Can he have Javier Milei move to the US for a cabinet position? How about he takes his advice... that would be frigging awesome!!

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Virel_360@reddit

I’m excited that Kennedy will be able to have cart Blanche and can make some real health changes that will help a lot of people.

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Primary-Cat-13@reddit

We will get excited when he actually gets the axe in his hand and chops something. Libertarians are a skeptical bunch, for good reason.

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Rick_Perrys_Asshole@reddit (OP)

the tree remembers what the axe forgets

..... give ron paul that government axe !

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thetroubleis@reddit

I’m with you. Having watched him get screwed on the primary stage. This is amazing. Every one who is contrary is too immature to grasp what is going on or a kamala supporter. No in between. Those who choose to remain skeptical are fine, but have to be willing to admit that if even 10% of what we’ve been promised is delivered, it will be the most libertarian administration in US history.