Fear of libertarians is not that they ll leave YOU alone but they’ll leave others alone. And for many people other people being free to do what they want is a very scary notion
I'm not concerned about Libertarians, unless they are Libertarians that aspire to be some form of hyperactive town planners in which case maybe they aren't Libertarians after all.
I got banned from there like 3 weeks ago for commenting on a pro trump meme and saying that the people posting all the pro trump stuff are just republicans too afraid to admit they are. I tried to message and ask why I was banned and never got a response.
r/libertarianmeme
Someone shared something calling a 3rd party votes a waste. I simply stated it was a weird sub to choose for being against 3rd party voters.
They're red af right now. A bunch of disaffected left-leaning independents will decide they are Libertarian soon and flock to any Libertarian sub and this sub will swing blue, while the meme sub balances out.
This sub has been comfortably balanced lately but I'll need to find a new home once the Trump hate moves in.
I mean, I got banned from the meme one because I dared to defend bodily autonomy for women in the same way everyone was up in arms about vaccines.
I get the argument against abortion, and morally I agree with it. Apparently applying the same logic to bodily autonomy to both abortion and vaccines was too much for them.
And I know they’re different, I just don’t believe the State has a right to tell people what they can’t do with their body.
I like to make that comparison too. But I also add in infant male circumcision and conscription (Selective Service). Bodily autonomy for me, but not for thee...
I'm not libertarian, but I agree with some ideas. The group here is at least open to reasonable discussion, and even when they internally disagree the conversation seems to be respectful form what I've seen.
It's not like a "100% libertarian ideas or you can go die" group.
Imagine thinking your singular vote will impact the outcome of any election. It's like saying not to pass in the ocean because it could change ph balance and kill the fish.
People don't fear libertarians. They hate them. Because most people have a religious faith in government to protect them and take care of them. And the Libertarian stance calls that faith into question, causing cognitive dissonance, which is painful. And hatred is the result.
Cats are terrifying. You let them 31 times instead of 30 times, they get pissed and claw you quicker than you can blink. 29 times instead of 30? You get bit.
He doesn’t understand why a political philosophy based on leaving people free to do as they please is a hard sell.
But it makes sense if you think about it. Most people don’t want to be left alone, they want to be taken care of. And they don’t want to leave other people alone, they want to control them. Because most people are not self sufficient, responsible, or tolerant people. If they were, libertarianism would be a much easier sell.
yea until the oligarchy comes and replaces the libertarians. I'm sure unrestricted capitalism will go wonderfully. Korea definitely doesn't have a problem like that :)
Cats? Like the ones who annihilate local bird and rodent populations, piss nearly pure ammonia to destroy plants (and thus pollinator populations), breed with wild abandon, and become incredibly territorial and violent at random?
If the libertarian party wants to stop funding animal control, then yes, I am afraid. I was a libertarian once when I was young. As I've gotten older, I just want a libertarian voice in the conversation of people who ensure my comfort.
Libertarian party leaving you along sometimes equates to getting rid of the police force to hire private contractors, there are terrible ideas on this side too
Short of an overwhelming supermajority of incredibly ideologically consistent libertarians at all 3 levels of government, it’d be impossible to get the society you’re worried about
A strong libertarian minority playing “kingmaker” in exchange for concessions from more traditional establishment parties would basically just be a moderating force leading to fewer people rather than more being ground up under the boot of the State each year
sideblade@reddit
Fear of libertarians is not that they ll leave YOU alone but they’ll leave others alone. And for many people other people being free to do what they want is a very scary notion
pcvcolin@reddit
I'm concerned about cats.
I'm not concerned about Libertarians, unless they are Libertarians that aspire to be some form of hyperactive town planners in which case maybe they aren't Libertarians after all.
NAP!
andyman171@reddit
Cats are a horrible analogy for the libertarian party. My cat is a dick.
HeinousEncephalon@reddit
I don't kill 200 small mammals every year if I'm left outside.
montanagunnut@reddit
This guy has never been to a gopher derby.
HeinousEncephalon@reddit
Sounds delicious though
DeadHeadDaddio@reddit
Damn hunting seasons.
montanagunnut@reddit
I fail to see the discrepancy. Dick.
ARatOnATrain@reddit
Yeah, but organizing libertarians is like herding cats.
thatsnotwait@reddit
That's because everyone else isn't a real libertarian like me!
henrideveroux@reddit
Ask for Libertarians their opinion and you will get five diferent replies.
Jovancar5086@reddit
I thought not being sheep is a good thing.
PhilRubdiez@reddit
Sure thing, Pinko.
Achilles8857@reddit
That's a feature, not a bug.
HTownLaserShow@reddit
Cats suck ass.
No wonder the movement isn’t catching on
If bet if we were herding dogs? 5X world election champs, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTTYYYYYYYY
Acalme-se_Satan@reddit
Is more like being scared of a gecko
Crashes556@reddit
Yeah my cat ass-Sprays me while I’m working on the car.
CommonRequirement@reddit
Yeah while they may like to nap they do not follow the NAP
flomflim@reddit
I don't think I've ever seen anyone be afraid of libertarians. This guy is such an idiot.
wadakow@reddit
I think Democrats WANT to be governed. And the handouts. They loooove their handouts.
Midwestern-manXX@reddit
Is this a real libertarian group? I was just banned from another for defending my 3rd party vote
Repulsive-Relief1818@reddit
I got banned from there like 3 weeks ago for commenting on a pro trump meme and saying that the people posting all the pro trump stuff are just republicans too afraid to admit they are. I tried to message and ask why I was banned and never got a response.
Midwestern-manXX@reddit
I told them I was emailing Spike and that he would then tell his wife. I think I have them on the ropes.
balthisar@reddit
A lot of non-libertarian traffic here. Which sub banned you for defending your vote? I'm vociferous about not voting for Kamala or Donald.
Midwestern-manXX@reddit
r/libertarianmeme Someone shared something calling a 3rd party votes a waste. I simply stated it was a weird sub to choose for being against 3rd party voters.
Dr_Swerve@reddit
I unsubbed from there months ago. It was always more right-leaning, but it was nonstop trumpism in the past 4 or 5 months.
DrZoid1984@reddit
Ha! Welcome to the club. Banned from there as well for saying conservative memes are annoying.
franklesby@reddit
Libertarianmeme is basically republicanechochamber now. This sub has been a lot better recently
Solar_Nebula@reddit
They're red af right now. A bunch of disaffected left-leaning independents will decide they are Libertarian soon and flock to any Libertarian sub and this sub will swing blue, while the meme sub balances out.
This sub has been comfortably balanced lately but I'll need to find a new home once the Trump hate moves in.
Wintergreen61@reddit
That is not a Libertarian sub, it is a conversative sub cosplaying as libertarian.
redpandaeater@reddit
I don't live in a swing state so I would say not voting 3rd party is a waste of a vote. Won't happen this time either but hitting 5% would be awesome.
airassault_tanker@reddit
Right to jail. That language is totally verboten. How dare you criticize a criticizer. /s
stoopdapoop@reddit
I'm not a libertarian and I get along just fine around here.
Lopsided_Ad3516@reddit
I mean, I got banned from the meme one because I dared to defend bodily autonomy for women in the same way everyone was up in arms about vaccines.
I get the argument against abortion, and morally I agree with it. Apparently applying the same logic to bodily autonomy to both abortion and vaccines was too much for them.
And I know they’re different, I just don’t believe the State has a right to tell people what they can’t do with their body.
t0rnAsundr@reddit
I like to make that comparison too. But I also add in infant male circumcision and conscription (Selective Service). Bodily autonomy for me, but not for thee...
possibleinnuendo@reddit
A better way, is to just enjoy the meme. Yaaaassss
benefit_of_mrkite@reddit
This sub is sort of libertarian but a lot of republicans and anarchists seem to be members
Black6x@reddit
I'm not libertarian, but I agree with some ideas. The group here is at least open to reasonable discussion, and even when they internally disagree the conversation seems to be respectful form what I've seen.
It's not like a "100% libertarian ideas or you can go die" group.
Lopsided_Ad3516@reddit
stoopdapoop@reddit
I'm not a libertarian and I get along just fine around here.
Ysclyth@reddit
Imagine thinking your singular vote will impact the outcome of any election. It's like saying not to pass in the ocean because it could change ph balance and kill the fish.
MatrimonyAcrimony@reddit
had me until "cats." big cats will stalk you and kill you with no relent and no remorse.
gotbock@reddit
People don't fear libertarians. They hate them. Because most people have a religious faith in government to protect them and take care of them. And the Libertarian stance calls that faith into question, causing cognitive dissonance, which is painful. And hatred is the result.
UncleVladi@reddit
Agree
themorningmosca@reddit
I almost got banned from this sub by making a cat reference one time:/. Libertarians DO NOT LIKE HOUSE CAT JOKES.
Forged04@reddit
Cats are terrifying. You let them 31 times instead of 30 times, they get pissed and claw you quicker than you can blink. 29 times instead of 30? You get bit.
sppotlight@reddit
Porcupine is a better animal comparison
HTownLaserShow@reddit
The fear comes from people’s own insecurities about self reliance and responsibility
DeadHeadDaddio@reddit
People equate Mcarthyism to Libertarianism and look no further than that.
benefit_of_mrkite@reddit
Never heard of that comparison.
What is a problem is how both parties agree on one item and that’s keeping libertarians off of ballots.
Ballot access has been an issue for years for the libertarian party and both Rs and Ds have gone to great lengths to refuse ballot access
Asangkt358@reddit
I've never heard of anyone conflating McCarthyism and Libertarianism.
DeadHeadDaddio@reddit
For some reason its pretty common.
WSquared0426@reddit
Being left alone is their fear along with the fear of what their neighbors will do with freedom.
PitsAndPints@reddit
Something something selfish ideology something something
finetune137@reddit
Don't forget "it caters to the rich only!" Kek
d3fc0n545@reddit
They're afraid because instead of siding on an issue, we want to take away their right to make those issues exist.
QBaaLLzz@reddit
Someone help me understand this
carnivoreobjectivist@reddit
He doesn’t understand why a political philosophy based on leaving people free to do as they please is a hard sell.
But it makes sense if you think about it. Most people don’t want to be left alone, they want to be taken care of. And they don’t want to leave other people alone, they want to control them. Because most people are not self sufficient, responsible, or tolerant people. If they were, libertarianism would be a much easier sell.
Responsible-Return87@reddit
And also because a lot of people actively want to tell others what to do.
QBaaLLzz@reddit
Thanks. Misinterpreted “fear of libertarians”. Makes sense now
insonobcino@reddit
🤣
DTKeign@reddit
That's easy the dems (and Rs) have committed a significant effort in destroying this country and indoctrinating people.
gamerologyst@reddit
yea until the oligarchy comes and replaces the libertarians. I'm sure unrestricted capitalism will go wonderfully. Korea definitely doesn't have a problem like that :)
NotTheOnlyGamer@reddit
Cats? Like the ones who annihilate local bird and rodent populations, piss nearly pure ammonia to destroy plants (and thus pollinator populations), breed with wild abandon, and become incredibly territorial and violent at random?
If the libertarian party wants to stop funding animal control, then yes, I am afraid. I was a libertarian once when I was young. As I've gotten older, I just want a libertarian voice in the conversation of people who ensure my comfort.
brutus8441@reddit
There are some REALLY big cats out there...just say'n
YouDontWatchTheMagic@reddit
Libertarian party leaving you along sometimes equates to getting rid of the police force to hire private contractors, there are terrible ideas on this side too
TheNaiveSkeptic@reddit
Short of an overwhelming supermajority of incredibly ideologically consistent libertarians at all 3 levels of government, it’d be impossible to get the society you’re worried about
A strong libertarian minority playing “kingmaker” in exchange for concessions from more traditional establishment parties would basically just be a moderating force leading to fewer people rather than more being ground up under the boot of the State each year
premiumCrackr@reddit
They either love you or hate you and you never know which one it is and can flip sides at any moment.
HeinousEncephalon@reddit
So really, everyone else is the cat
jordantbaker@reddit
*an indoor cat