The plan to overthrow America
Posted by Cloaked42m@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 21 comments
Author note: After talking with collapse moderators and reviewing the input received so far, I'm going to edit this in place rather than resubmit. I've copied the original and posted it [here] (https://www.reddit.com/r/sternlyletteredword/comments/vsoe70/the_plan_to_overthrow_america_original/?) to ensure an original version is kept. If someone is complaining about something that doesn't seem to exist, that's on Me, not them.
The Plan to Overthrow America
There is an active conspiracy that exists with the intent to seize control of the Federal Government through illegitimate means and if that fails, to secede from the Union. This conspiracy has seized control of the Republican Party and silenced almost all opposition within the party. January 6th was the culmination of a test run of the underlying infrastructure. Abortion is being used to solidify support for the underlying conspiracy. The routes being taken to ban Abortion are designed to accomplish the following: Insure that Party members and conservatives are forced to agree or be ostracized, Use the Supreme Court to revert laws and Constitutional definitions to the 1960s and as far back as they need to go to support the conspiracy, Assume full control of the voting process where possible, and normalize white supremacist theories of Replacement and Separation of States.
This is an organized attack on our country.
We are currently experiencing a carefully planned, coordinated judicial attack. Abortion is the pinning force, the anvil that galvanizes action and holds attention as Independent State Legislature Theory acts as the hammer. Attacks on Separation of Church and State, and sharp limitations on Federal authority are smaller diversionary strikes that separate defending forces and overwhelm intelligence systems. The goal? Permanent control of the Federal Government with a fallback position of Secession.
Abortion is the anvil. If you ask an average conservative if they think a 10 year old should be forced to have a baby, they are probably going to look at you like you are nuts and say NO, in a pretty disgusted voice. After all, the prevailing view point is that if you CHOOSE to have sex, then you are accepting the fact that you might get pregnant. The time to choose, says the Party Line, is before you have sex, not after. Yet the 10 year old didn't have a choice. Rape victims don't get a choice. We know these things occur. We know they are horrible. According to prevailing research, only 2% of Americans think there should be NO Exceptions. Yet the Party Line is that "life begins at conception and that is an inarguable fact". It isn't inarguable and it isn't true, but we aren't going into that yet. Why are they arguing such a wildly unpopular opinion? Why was the opinion leaked ahead of time by a Conservative Supreme Court Aide?
It got everyone's attention and distracted from the rest of what the court accomplished in a single week.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_n758.pdf EPA acted outside of Congressional Intent. Interpreting Congressional Intent, rather than Constitutional Intent. Normally, if something isn't expressly included in a Law, the Agency in charge of enforcement and policy fill in the blanks. This is NORMAL. You can't write to every single possibility. The Supreme Court said that was no bueno. Congress has to specify everything or too bad.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf Separation of Church and State doesn't apply to Teachers and Coaches. Even if it's clear that not participating in prayer would set you apart from the group. Not simply, "a quiet personal prayer", but led prayer before and during the game in a locker room that would make it impossible to exercise your right NOT to pray. Personally, I can't wait to see a team pull out their prayer mats to thank Allah after a game. I will also accept everyone putting on their colanders. Wiccan ceremonies clad in the light?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1088_dbfi.pdf School vouchers okay for Religious Schools. So publicly funded religious schools. Neat.
Now that environmentalists are freaking out, Civil Rights groups are losing their minds over publicly funded religion, women are terrified, men are terrified (vasectomy appointments are booked solid till spring in most areas), and LGBT+ groups are terrified since Justice Thomas said in his concurring opinion that they were next. If this was a Physical Army they've successfully sown confusion, fear, and divided the OPFOR. Now, you attack.
Moore v Harper re-introduces Independent State Legislature theory. The Supreme Court agreed to hear this case on June 30. https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/moore-v-harper-2/
This is the theory that only State Legislatures have the authority to set election districts and election law. It neatly eliminates judicial review and governor veto. This will allow any state to arbitrarily decide districts. Blue states get even bluer. Red states get even redder. More importantly, without judicial review, it allows the State Legislature to arbitrarily decide what Votes Count.
Conservatives, would you trust a Democrat/Liberal controlled state legislature to play fair? So why are allegedly Conservative groups pushing this concept? How would you react to a Democrat legislature deciding if your vote was "good enough"?
It gets worse.
The Supreme Court is supposed to be an independent body. So would anyone care to explain to me why the North Carolina Legislature has an amendment referendum planned that uses Independent State Legislature language in it? This amendment specifically says that it is your Right to kill anyone that provides abortions, or Plan B, or any contraceptive that inhibits implantation.
https://www.ncleg.gov/Sessions/2021/Bills/House/PDF/H158v1.pdf
Alternative Links:
NC Legislature page for House Bill 158
PDF of House Bill 158 as of 6June2022
No, I'm not exaggerating at all. It's explicit.
NC House Bill 158 was introduced February 25, 2021, that included very specific language for "Qualified Voters". Moore v Harper was introduced Feb 25, 2022. The RNC has filed a supporting brief for the case. Moore v Harper passes, the Republican controlled North Carolina legislature now has sole control to set standards for elections and which votes count. The bill requests a date for the referendum for this fall. 2022.
Texas has said that it will push for a referendum on Secession for the fall of 2023.
This is a planned attack with a fall back plan.
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How did I end up going down this rabbit hole? I read the proposed Abortion Ban for South Carolina https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsearch.php?billnumbers=1373&session=124&summary=B and stumbled on the word Abortifacient. I didn't know what that was so I looked it up and found this.
https://www.hli.org/resources/what-are-abortifacients/
Human Life International is a Pro Life site that defines what they think is abortion. It's not what we commonly think of as abortion. I went back and read the bill a little closer. The language in the bill matches almost exactly with HLI. The bill suggests that we use FDA guidelines. HLI proposes that we change those guidelines. It takes most birth control pills and IUDs off the market. The language used on the HLI site matches the language used in the bill.
This is the South Carolina Heartbeat ban. https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess124_2021-2022/bills/1.htm
This is a trigger law put into place a year ago. Again, the language used matches the HLI site. I decided to look around and see if it was just SC, or what. I stumbled on the North Carolina proposed amendment. The next day, Texas GOP announced its planned referendum on secession.
The day after that someone debating the SC Abortion Ban with me on Reddit brought up Separation of States. I've got more than a passing casual interest in the Civil War. Separation of States is one of the concepts that took us to the Civil War. Free states do Free state things. Slave states do Slave state things. We'll all get along just fine. We saw how well that worked out. Except now, they used Red/Blue states.
In the 1860s, this was about whether or not the States had the Rights to define who was human and who was property.
In 2022, this is again about whether or not the States have the Rights to define who was human and who was property.
If I hear hoof beats, I think horses, not zebras.
Edit: Please keep the constructive criticism coming. I've gotten some good feedback so far on how to edit this. There will probably be a Part 2 Post for Actions to take, plus a separate deep dive into some of the decisions and bills and what the Net Impact is.
Edit: Anywhere I said that Plan B was on the hit list is Most Likely incorrect. Thanks for the people that kept poking at me till I triple checked.
Potato_Catt@reddit
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Cloaked42m@reddit (OP)
You should go read the headlines on WRAL today.
Cyclone87@reddit
LOL
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eliquy@reddit
RemindMe! 854 days
Has the electoral college done gone did fascism?
YumyumProtein@reddit
We will find out tomorrow
DannyBDragdrodgyny@reddit
I cannot shake the absolute fear in the deepest parts of my soul. We will find out tomorrow.
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OxytocinOD@reddit
Almost there I’m on the edge of my seat!!
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dumnezero@reddit
Damn it, should've given it an extra day. Well, I guess we'll find out either way.
SovietJugernaut@reddit
Yeah the count was a bit off. Sadly I'll forget about this comment by tomorrow
ChanceImplement@reddit
Yes
greekgoddessnikki@reddit
It appears so.
dumnezero@reddit
One day too few.
TheOnlyBliebervik@reddit
Guess not
IM_NOT_BALD_YET@reddit
Thanks, u/RemindMeBot . lol. Guess we'll start finding out tomorrow! Good luck, everyone.
Cloaked42m@reddit (OP)
On that note. Saw an awful of lot of ads on Twitter today about reporting any "problems in NC" to the GOP.
Plus Trump's little 'surprise' with Mike Johnson
Plus the Virginia idjit saying NC should just give it's electoral votes to Trump.
CNN is hedging on calling NC for Harris at the moment.
IM_NOT_BALD_YET@reddit
I didn't hear that. :( Ugh. I just moved to Ohio from Virginia and I'm watching the numbers come in. Split right down the middle at the moment. Haven't heard of anything problematic so far, though. I wonder if they'll be able to call it tonight.
Cloaked42m@reddit (OP)
Turns out America fell for 80s sexism and racism. Turned into a moot point.