Cars turning right from side streets

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CallenFields@reddit

"Or slightly over" ... This is a point against you.

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gland87@reddit

I just hate those who do that then proceed to drove slowly in front of you. Why were you in such a hurry to turn out then?

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FreeIndividual7@reddit

And often I have nobody in the lane behind me.

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This, but some times when I am waiting to make a turn some one will stop to let me turn in front of them with no one behind them. No I do not want to pul out in front of you, I do not trust you enough to not step on the gas the second I start turning. Plus there was no one behind you so all you had to do was get out of the way.

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glitterfaust@reddit

I’m so tired of that. I was a pedestrian a few weeks ago, almost to my destination, just needed to cross a busy ass road with two lanes going each way and a mutual turn lane in between.

Thankfully part of the turn lane was closed off for construction up the road so I was able to pause between both sides (no cross walks or traffic lights in sight unfortunately). I was waiting for a gap then whenever I finally had a decent one coming up, long enough to cross both, people stopped to either offer me a ride or just stop in the left lane “letting me cross” with traffic still in the right lane that now can’t see me at all (and I can’t see past your big ass car). It was infuriating! Just keep going predictably and I could’ve already been at my destination!

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FoaRyan@reddit

I got so sick of that behavior, I started making it really obvious I'm not going to pull out into blind traffic (turning left for example across multiple lanes) by turning my head the opposite direction of that kind benevolent traffic-jam-causer, that they finally get frustrated and go.

Sometimes people even honk at me while I'm still in a parking lot, 10 feet back from the road, as if I'm obligated to pull out because they're "letting me." It's kind of fun actually. And safe.

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TNoStone@reddit

Oh man, this shit makes me absolutely SEETHE

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gland87@reddit

Yeah, i dont understand it.

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ShimmerRihh@reddit

Dont even get me started. DONT EVEN GET ME FUCKING STARTED!

OMFG I hate this more than ANYTHING. If youre in such a rush MOVE YOUR SLOW DRIVING, SLOW BRAINED ASS ALONG FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 😤

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PMTittiesPlzAndThx@reddit

It’s always an old person

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

Although very old people may do it by mistake, I’ve found that younger drivers are more likely to do this just because they tend to be more self centered

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Accurate_Maybe6575@reddit

All drivers are more self centered.

Some of them just have the bitter experience of needing to buy a new vehicle ahead of schedule because they were being self centered.

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JMHorsemanship@reddit

I once saw an old person just ignore a stop sign and pull onto the main road I was on, I had to hard break. They just cruised along at 20 mphh. I'm sure they are dead now

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ConceptOther5327@reddit

They know they’re wrong they just don’t care. So many people just disregard rules these days. They know drivers will avoid a collision if possible so they take their chances because you’ll probably slow down.

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Sea_Practice_7604@reddit

I remember when I was a student driver (within one week of learning to drive I think), someone pulled out in front of me from a left turn lane. I was terrified, but Jesus took the wheel and I swerved without losing control.

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spacestonkz@reddit

Was Jesus the name of your driving instructor? Did he use Chuy as a nickname? He sounds like a cool guy.

For real, good reaction for such a new driver!

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FoaRyan@reddit

Funny story I once had a girlfriend who was athiestic, and was with her fam over the holidays. Their cable or internet went out, and they had to call out a tech to fix it. His name was Jesus. So her story became that Jesus saved Christmas!! 😂

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alwyn@reddit

Cop will come and give youba ticket for 'following too closely and make it your at fault.

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ximyr@reddit

My dashcam would say otherwise.

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uberdriver259@reddit

This 👆

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

It depends. If I'm sitting on a side street for 3 minutes and still haven't been able to get into traffic, then you might need to hit your brakes when I pull out.

However, nobody should ever be slamming on their brakes. If your reaction is immediately "look at this asshole" and not "holy shit I gotta slam on the brakes to not hit him" then it probably wasn't that egregious of a pull out.

Now, if you pull up to the stop sign, roll the motherfucker and pull out in front of me, then I'm mad lol.

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skyharborbj@reddit

Your inconvenience doesn’t override the laws of your state, nor the laws of physics. Wait until it’s safe means wait until it’s safe.

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

You've probably never driven in summer Florida traffic I take it lol, you'll get honked at if you don't let people from the side roads in

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izeek11@reddit

love the ones that see they have 6 car lengths and pull out when they're down to 2, then proceed to not accelerate for 3-5 seconds, if we're lucky, then take 2 blocks to reach the speed limit, only to not make the light 4 of us rolling casually wouldve made./s

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skyharborbj@reddit

No, they make the light. With several milliseconds to spare. You don’t.

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izeek11@reddit

true

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No-Text-9656@reddit

Yeah but you don't have a god given right to your momentum. If they have a choice between waiting 10 minutes and making you slow down, they're going to pull out. Now, when I was a kid my neighbor's parked car was plastered by a lady picking a compact up from her floorboards, so I know not everyone is paying attention. So I wouldn't pull out in front of someone. But still, you don't have a God given right to your momentum.

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skyharborbj@reddit

It’s not a god-given right, it’s a traffic law called right-of-way.

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ximyr@reddit

Correct, it is not a god given right. It is, however, a state-given law.

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Sesh458@reddit

They don't, they just don't care cause you'll be found at fault without a cam and possibly with a cam.

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Minapit@reddit

Not really you have the right of way here

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

No dashcam + your front end is smashed + their back end is smashed = no insurance for you lol

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ximyr@reddit

If the cop knows the driver turned off a side street, they will be cited for failing to ensure the lane of entrance was clear.

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skyharborbj@reddit

Depends on the point of impact. Cops generally don’t determine liability for reimbursement. Insurance companies do.

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WingyYoungAdult@reddit

Add to the fact you have to attempt to avoid a collision at all.

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Littleone3685@reddit

My wife has a friend whose motto when driving is "just pull out, they'll stop"

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AsparaGus2025@reddit

I hope "just pull out" isn't also their philosophy for birth control! 😄

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skyharborbj@reddit

Unfortunately it was their father’s.

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

A lot of female drivers share that philosophy.

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phalangeals@reddit

found the incel; men actually cause more accidents than women, including deadly accidents

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

More men have in the past snd present drive more then women do. But ok champ. I got a wife with three kids. But keep assuming.

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phalangeals@reddit

either way it’s still wrong for you to lump 50% of a population together.. assumptions based on a population that large often aren’t correct

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sleeperthoee__@reddit

He never lumped 50% together. He said “a lot” not all female drivers. You’re the one lumping them together

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phalangeals@reddit

be for real.. what does “a lot” mean?

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

It means a lot. Not 50 percent like you are justifying to yourself. But whatever, be politically correct and a knight to all females.

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phalangeals@reddit

source?

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

The internet. Look it up.

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phalangeals@reddit

not a source, pls show me where you got 50.5 :)

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

Show yourself. You can type and look at a screen.

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phalangeals@reddit

i have looked it up and found the opposite to be true, so i am again asking you to show me this evidence you have for my point being wrong

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

“ What percent of the population is women in the US. “

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bigchilla777@reddit

take a trip to the truck stop, who do you see there? nearly all men who drive 5k miles per week

take a trip to the country and observe agriculture next, who do you see driving? nearly all men who haul 100,000lbs around to feed you

take a trip to the forest and observe some logging, who’s driving those machines? nearly all men driving log death machines

take a trip to a construction site, who’s driving the heavy equipment? who brought it here? again nearly all of them men driving the machines that tear down buildings and barely fit onto a wide load semi trailer

we can go on, but it’s not really necessary, people that go outside see men drive 100x more

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phalangeals@reddit

we’re talking about driving personal vehicles on the road. use some context clues thanks

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bigchilla777@reddit

the context was “men actually cause more accidents than women”. its one comment back if you can’t remember lol

in response to that i brought up the deadliest things on the road and who is driving them

the culture surrounding men doing all that driving and dangerous work extends to personal life/vehicles too

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Naikrobak@reddit

My rule of thumb: if you have to slow down to avoid a collision because of me, I failed.

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ScrongleDonkulus@reddit

I hate people like that, if you're gonna take a ballsy turn like that USE THE FUCKING GAS PEDAL!!! It should only take a few seconds for any modern car to get up to city speeds

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K0RINICE@reddit

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reddidundant@reddit

And it's usually a Prius and/or old lady.

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Ex_InFi_x@reddit

I love the times when im the only car on the road for quite some way, and some impatient driver pulls out in front of me instead of waiting for me to pass literally 2 seconds later

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Mundane_Loss_5769@reddit

that may actually be a ticketable offense though rarely used " Impeding the flow of traffic" or some such

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ShimmerRihh@reddit

When you can forsee them turning out honk super long 🤣🤣🤣

I do it. Its like making a sharp noise at a toddler whos about to do something stupid, they get startled and stop 💀

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hecton101@reddit

If you're going "slightly over" then be prepared to brake. I live in a hilly city (San Francisco) with a lot of turns with blind spots. It's not unusual to have someone come up behind too fast and they get mad at me. Fuck you. You can try to accelerate through the turn, but there's only so much a person can do. You can't tear through a turn without knowing what's around the corner.

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Darth_Chili_Dog@reddit

Entering a busy street from a side street without the aide of a traffic light requires assertive driving, or else they may never have the opportunity to enter the busier street at all. It's just how it goes.

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

So that’s how you people justify being a dick

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Darth_Chili_Dog@reddit

If you think entering a busy street from a side street is "being a dick," then you must live in a town of 50.

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

The point is that no matter how busy traffic is, you never have to pull in front of someone such that you slow them down and force them to brake which is the OP’s topic of discussion. The only reason to do so is that you are impatient, self centered and put yourself over others. Good drivers never do this even in the busiest of traffic. You just need to wait longer

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AngryMillenialGuy@reddit

You lot are being ridiculous. You honestly believe that it's reasonable to expect a free lane that doesn't require you to decrease speed on account of other drivers?

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

You just don’t understand the topic. The topic is when you are waiting at an intersection without a light to first turn onto another street with other traffic. Somehow I’ve driven for decades in some of the heaviest traffic in the country without ever forcing other drivers to brake or even slow down in this situation but some seem to think that I’ve accomplished something impossible

The alternative argument is that you shouldn’t have to wait, fuck em and just pull out, make the other traffic slam on their brakes. It is this opinion that the OP is rightfully complaining about

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AngryMillenialGuy@reddit

without ever forcing other drivers to brake or even slow down

Never? In the heaviest traffic, no one has ever slowed their roll for you, even just a little? That's very hard to believe.

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thrownawayforeves@reddit

I’m with chilli dog here to an extent. It may just be poor design but especially during rush hour, some side streets just don’t get access to the Main Street unless some kind would gives way. Which may or may not happen depending on the time of day. And of course there are those buttheads that will block the side street altogether even when stuck in traffic up front. Which basically means that sometimes you do have to merge in and make the car behind you slow down. And when you’re driving a heavy vehicle hauling s$&t there’s no way you can really accelerate enough.

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Darth_Chili_Dog@reddit

Yeah, actually do have to do that sometimes. And if you're driving in that type of busy traffic and you're in the busy lane, be attentive, because people are going to pull out in front of you all the time. The thing about driving in busy traffic is that you don't get to mentally check out as you would on an empty farm road. You have an absolutist idea about this subject that's completely impractical and unrealistic.

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giorgionaprymer@reddit

Yeah, I live in a large city in Eastern Europe with some major streets planned and built in like 16th century, and it's just not possible sometimes to avoid causing someone to break on a busy street. And if there's a traffic jam, people here often don't make any effort to let others merge or pull out from side streets until you start muscling your way in.

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ThugMagnet@reddit

In my patch, folks will patiently wait for me to be too close, then they will make their turn, cutting me off. There’s 1/4 mile of empty road in front of me and another 1/4 mile behind. These are often the same people who lock up their brakes in front of me to very slowly enter a subsequent parking lot.

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Dense-Trust-1438@reddit

new driver. always concerned about being too slow when turning into plazas for the people behind me. whats the correct way to do that, signal early? because i was taught not to take turns fast in fact do them slowly, 10mph even

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ThugMagnet@reddit

whats the correct way to do that, signal early?

(California) Yes. Always signal. Be predictable. Counterintuitively, it is better to merge early to the edge of the road in order to get your bumper out of the traffic lane quickly. I always reward myself with a little dopamine when I am passed in the traffic lane while I’m making my turn into say, a parking lot. That means I was being predictable and not obstructing traffic.

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OrangeHitch@reddit

> These are often the same people who lock up their brakes in front of me to very slowly enter a subsequent parking lot.

Without signaling until midway through the turn.

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ThugMagnet@reddit

Without signaling until midway through the turn.

Well, without signaling at all. :o)

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Darth_Chili_Dog@reddit

There's always going to be somebody who'll misbehave or generally exercise poor judgment, but that doesn't reflect on the oft necessity of turning into a busy street from a side street.

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nmmOliviaR@reddit

This might be a good reason why a person decides to jump out, they get sick and tired of waiting for minutes for an opening and not being able to come into the busy road. I’ve even seen one instance of an impatient driver honking repeatedly and inching forward wanting to enter, and he had people behind him who probably were just as impatient. The way the roads are and how much traffic they get are contributing to driver impatience and not everyone can be pleased, but you never want to make someone that impatient and pissed off to do something drastic for many. Traffic engineers are gonna have to do more work.

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NorthernVale@reddit

I've never had to wait more than a couple minutes for a safe opening. And what I consider a safe opening is a lot bigger than most people.

It's not "just how it goes." It's impatience causing immediate hazards for everyone else on the road.

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Neat-Year555@reddit

No, it really truly depends on where you are. We have some busy thoroughfares through my city that turn into parking lots during rush hour. Not the major highway (the interstate) either, these are just regular city streets. You have to either wait for someone to be nice enough to let you in or you have to intentionally cut someone off because you won't get more than a car length of opening for hours.

For what it's worth, I don't necessarily condone this behavior. It's a symptom of bad road design. These streets I'm referencing were once residential, rarely commuted streets that have over time been developed and turned into major thoroughfares for a lot of local traffic without the road actually keeping up with that development. Each road has maybe 3 or 4 stop lights from one end of the commercialization to the other when they need maybe 8 or 9.

Unfortunately, the powers that be don't want to disrupt daily commutes long enough to shift the traffic pattern. Okay, I recognize that there's issues with that too, but it's not going to be fixed by continuing to do nothing. However, people still have to get around and you have to adapt your driving to your conditions sometimes. It sucks, but until it's fixed, I'm not sure what else you're supposed to do. This part of town is only avoidable by adding an extra 30 minutes to your trip and not everyone has that time (or gas money).

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Reddittoxin@reddit

Eh, listen I'm a speedy person myself, but I also recognize sometimes if you wait for the "perfect" gap you'll be waiting all day. Even when people pull out in front of me, as long as I'm only merely having to slow down a little bit or just take my damn foot off the gas for a second, i ain't gonna take it personally. With traffic the way it is around my neck of the woods, I know I'll also be that guy having to demand someone give me the slightest bit of speed reduction to get out one day too. You'll literally never get an opening otherwise.

Unless you're breaking hard, then just get over it my dude lol.

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AutomaticVacation242@reddit

Turns out that there's other people in the world that want to drive on the same streets as we do. Sometimes we have to alter our course or slow down to share the road.

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rojo1161@reddit (OP)

And sometimes someone could wait for ONE car to go by rather than cut them off.

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AutomaticVacation242@reddit

And when they don't they don't. We move on with our lives and not worry about things we can't control.

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rojo1161@reddit (OP)

If I was that evolved, I wouldn't have started this thread/post.

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AutomaticVacation242@reddit

Exactly.

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

There’s never a reason to cause others to slow down when you enter a road. That’s just a way to justify being self centered and not waiting until it’s clear

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AngryMillenialGuy@reddit

Fucking idiots complain about the so-called entitlement of other drivers while admitting that they are chronic speeders who don't think they should ever need to use their brakes.

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AngryMillenialGuy@reddit

Like hard braking or a little braking? If it's the latter, I've got bad news for you: you aren't king of the road.

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Helpjuice@reddit

That would be illegal just driving into the main way of moving traffic without yielding until it is actually safe to pull out. Get a dashcam and report it. As you are right, if you had to break for them to pull out they are in the wrong and cut you off which might also be another offense they could get a ticket for if reported.

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modular91@reddit

Report it to whom?

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

The police....?

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modular91@reddit

They ain't gon do jack

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

If you live in a city, no probably not. Small Town pds will respond to everything tho. Just last month my small town pd responded to a call of a possum on our road. They gave the neighbors the go ahead to get their gun and shoot it 😂

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ReasonableNose2988@reddit

How fast should you make a turn from a stop?

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enlightened321@reddit

Insurance gives people the courage to do stupid things

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reddituser1247639@reddit

If someone pulls out dangerously on me their insurance is buying me a new car and paying to sort the project car out too. It's great

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RopeTheFreeze@reddit

Only if you have a dashcam! I highly doubt you'd win a claim with a smashed front end and somebody else's smashed back end if you didn't have any evidence

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reddituser1247639@reddit

Aim to take their front bumper off with your passenger side. Anything behind the wing is a questionable claim. If you hit from the wing forward then it's pretty much uncontested

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NecroBelch@reddit

Stop speeding and it’ll happen less often.

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thrownawayforeves@reddit

I’d honestly just say speed up or slow down. There’s always that one car who turned right on a red and will not change its speed at all and makes me wait till the light goes green to incoming traffic such that the 2 minute wait changes to a 7 minute one. And that other car who will just block the side road even when there’s a pile of cars in front of it.

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rojo1161@reddit (OP)

Really? The main street though town, a spur of a state highway, 30 mile an hour one lane each direction plus a center turn lane. It you're doing the speed limit you're being tailgated and flipped off.

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RhythmTimeDivision@reddit

Let it go, commenters are famous in the driving and dash cam subs for playing the 'blame op' game. Somehow, you must have done something wrong.

Keep arguing and they'll claim you could have chosen to stay home from work that day. Hence, your fault.

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surms41@reddit

To be fair going slower will keep that from happening. As it will open a long gap for cars to exit and speed up. I try to keep within 1-3 cars distance at speed if I don't want someone to jump in front as to make sure it's physically impossible for them to think about it. Now if you're still speeding with a large gap in front you're the one in the way keeping side streets unsafe to exit from and extending someone's wait time. Stay with the pack or slow to create a bigger gap for merging. Imo the people who maintain a 20 car gap are the assholes.

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JLF061@reddit

No, it won't. There is one road I do around the speed limit on because everyone does most likely because there are cops crawling around every corner, and they do it all the time. Now I go around that section because I'm pretty sure eventually I would've hit someone.

Speeding isn't a factor in my opinion. If you defensively drive, you don't go out in front of a car that's getting closer to you at an exponential rate. I personally don't expect cars to stop or slow down. It's not their responsibility. I always wait for an opening. Of course, I drive a smaller, slower car, and it takes a little long for it to get up to speed, so I have to account for that as well.

Personally, I never understood the rush to get out in front of someone and then take forever to get up to speed. You came out in front of someone just to go slow? If so, then just wait until there's more space or until the road is clear.

Drivers do what they want, and some of them do so with a lack of common sense and little to care for their safety.

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surms41@reddit

That's true. But I was mostly talking about fast moving waves of traffic. If those waves are all scattered, or if someone say, a car hit a right after the green light traffic, the turning car behing would be the one causing extra delays in cases where people may be in the left turn lanes all over the road, those breaks between traffic help the flow of side roads and median lane turns on a 5 lane road.

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BugRevolution@reddit

In this OP admits to doing something wrong.

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RhythmTimeDivision@reddit

Slightly over, let's focus on that.

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JMHorsemanship@reddit

Wait.

So you're actually speeding and breaking the law, then complain that people are pulling out in front of you? Lol

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NecroBelch@reddit

Yes. Try and see.

Also, quit giving a shit about the people being assholes behind you.

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Sesh458@reddit

No, it really won't

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NecroBelch@reddit

Yeah. It will. They’ll be more time for who ever needs to pull out.

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July_is_cool@reddit

Don't try driving in France, where, unless marked otherwise, the car to the right has the right of way. Even when a small road intersects with a major highway.

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untoastedbrioche@reddit

oh I see. you were speeding and got mad someone didn't know you were speeding and pulled out resulting in you having to slam on your breakdown.

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autophage@reddit

It is unintuitive that sometimes accelerating is safer than decelerating.

Same with switching lanes.

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Dear-Examination-507@reddit

"I shouldn't have to brake to let you in."

Good words to live by on the road. (I have a little mercy if we're approaching a freeway exit and you are trying to get over in heavy traffic, but that's about it.)

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BerserkerTheyRide@reddit

I love when this happens and there is nobody behind you

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Jazzlike-Basket-6388@reddit

The place where I have to pull out from my neighborhood is about 100 yards from a major intersection. With the time of the lights and people turning, there straight up isn't a gap in traffic from about 7 to 9 AM and probably about 3:30 to 6:30 PM. You really just have to find someone going slow that has their head up, then go. I'm squealing tires and fishtailing and banging 2nd gear every time I have to pull out during work traffic. Car count on the road has tripled since I moved here.

The people that pull out with no urgency suck, but the world would be a better place if more people would move into the left lane or breathe off the throttle a bit when they see someone in a tough spot.

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JLF061@reddit

It's one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to driving. My brakes are weird, and my car takes a while to speed up and slow down, especially if the speed limit is 55 and above. The fact that people assume others will be able to slow down in front of them is wild to me. I've started just switching lanes and then going out in front of them. And if I can't, then I lay on my horn.

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WorstDeal@reddit

Get a dash cam and start hitting people that pull out in front of you. I can't stand people who do that. At the same time, I do it as well, but the only difference is when I pull out in front of someone, I'm on the gas until I get just past the speed limit

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SaturnsShadoe@reddit

Happened to me today. Happy I got to use my horn today 🤣

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Alex_Masterson13@reddit

I have noticed over the years that more and more people have poorer judgement on how much room they have to turn out like that. Some cut it close and some sit there until they can't see anyone coming before they turn. I am also sure some just don't see us coming when they pull out in front of us, while others just do not care and only want to get into the road. I will admit to poorly judging a few times the room I have for a turn and a few times I just did not see the car coming that I pulled out in front of.

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ASweetLilKitten@reddit

Get a dash cam and put their insurance company to work.

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i_liek_trainsss@reddit

Especially frustrating when they take their sweet time getting up to the speed limit.

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onelonecheezit@reddit

I hope nobody tries this with me in my shitty old car because the brakes are shot and I don’t care if my car gets totaled.

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BugRevolution@reddit

That really depends though.

If it's an actual marked side street, they'll have a yield or a stop, or some other marking.

If it's unmarked, you have to yield to the right.

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rojo1161@reddit (OP)

I’m traveling straight,they have a stop sign. I don’t. I’m not a four way intersection

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BugRevolution@reddit

The stop sign (not side street) is the defining detail you left out here.

Anyway, even at a four way intersection, or any intersection, if there's nothing else posted, you yield to the right.

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canadas@reddit

They are either dicks, or stupid and think just because you wont crash while the turn is in progress its ok

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Sparky_Zell@reddit

Are you spamming on your brakes to avoid collision, or are you having to slow down slightly, especially if you are speeding. There is a big difference between those two situations.

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Strong_Revelation@reddit

I don’t know about your area but when I got to say get out of my driveway I literally have to inch my way out a lot of the time to be able to get out and see cause they love parking pickup trucks and bigger vehicles at the ending intersecting parts of the driveway. Also, you can see directly in front of you and see someone inching or pulling out then just brake and let them in maybe? Don’t worry champ, everyone driving feels entitled to right of way. I don’t worry about that and adapt accordingly when I drive. You slowing down for someone to get out doesn’t take much time at all. Especially when you ain’t stuck in traffic on top of it.

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