new york, los angeles, and chicago are our big 3 cities. if we were to add a 4th, which do you think it would be?

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DoinIt989@reddit

Atlanta and SF are more culturally relevant than Houston, and the SF Bay Area has more people than the Houston metro even if SF proper is smaller.

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DoinIt989@reddit

The SF Bay is also a "beautiful, diverse, vibrant, screwed up mess" of an urban area, and SF/Silicon Valley are just way more relevant to America than Houston. In every category.

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pakheyyy@reddit

Atlanta is the cultural capital of the South. You haven’t seen America if you haven’t seen the capital of the South.

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Theyalreadysaidno@reddit

This is the right answer.

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DMBEst91@reddit

Houston is the only factual answer

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Theyalreadysaidno@reddit

Houston is large, yes, but it doesn't pack the same cultural punch as those other cities.

Ask a foreigner what they know about those three cities and they'll be able to say something. Ask a foreigner about Houston and they'll have to think pretty hard about it.

I actually wasn't referring to population I was referring to distance. How far can you be outside the center and still be in the "X area"?

San Francisco for example still essentially refers to the city of - beyond that it's all "the bay area"

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picklepuss13@reddit

In full size, yes it's up there, also a lot of distinct cultural signficance at this point. I think it's moved up maybe to top 7 but I can't put it past the tech / significance of SF / Silicon Valley or the nation's capital. I think it is higher now than say, somewhere like Philadelphia or Houston though when taking everything into consideration.

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dixpourcentmerci@reddit

I guess the question is should there by regional preference given, since Atlanta is the most regionally and culturally distinct from the given three big cities.

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DoinIt989@reddit

It’s a little weird that Atlanta seems to be a more popular answer than DC for “fourth big city.”

SeawolfEmeralds@reddit

Agree it's changed many things have changed around America San Francisco should be of particular note

people should understand that politics in California is less about policy it's more about who is going to get in power that will have leverage on zoning or construction or one particular issue on a business aspect

Nothing gets done without the approval of the government in those areas or even if there's a simple mix up they said the wrong thing on a tweet. A project can be held up indefinitely even if it's already approved.

It's interesting people who promoted TDS on Facebook because that's what Facebook told them their friends went into

You know the people who said not to protest during a pandemic all 300 of them protesting for their right to work should be placed in concentration camps their healthcare revoked they should be fired from their jobs which most of them owned their own small business

Then suddenly it was okay to burn lute murder everything and everything except that 1 person possibly in San Francisco who tweeted no not my Starbucks

MSM round headlines is it okay to protest in a pandemic it depends what you're protesting

Type copy people who supported Joe Biden but after November 2020 election wasn't a single post about him, many of those people suddenly claimed to be libertarian

good luck having of conversation with them about their new fad political trend.

Think the Wikipedia edit wars is going on about how those aren't real libertarians those are conservatives. Ironic

That wasn't real marxism if I was in charge it would have worked

That's not real corporatism we like those companies you're thinking of corptocracy

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dukkha_dukkha_goose@reddit

You ok?

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StJimmy92@reddit

I know him from another site where he uses the same username. He comes across as mildly schizo if he’s not summarizing a post or article.

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SeawolfEmeralds@reddit

That was a travesty what began with simply link requests to no link screenshots of tweets resulted in the announcement of sticks and stickies a preference of penning no link screenshots of tweets

Result the amount of doctored and fake posts quickly escalated. Even became pinned content. Pictures of Tran in new became pinned posts

The signs were there but they couldn't back down they had to continue sensorship

looking back at PEDES over the years and seeing their last comments being complaints of censorship, fake posts and pinned tran.

Then came the desperate plea for help they need subscriptions they need money the site was down to maybe 10 users viewing a post maybe 1200 visitors a day

Super Bowl 2024 a site that claims to be about TD pinned nothing of the sort instead it was Taylor Swift derangement syndrome TSDS

A very vocal minority of the community came together in the silencing and daily censorship of this account 5 - 7 trolls.

After years they had run out of alts, they began using their normal account or new handshakes. Because at that point every synthetic account targeting one individual had dozens of previous interactions that were copied in pasted as history and then The Mods would censor that to try and hide what was going on

The real issue censorship they got caught in a never-ending loop where they had to continually censor one single account because people were saying why is this account being targeted for censorship their comment is on topic at hand against marxism and that gained significant traction

That censorship began on Super Bowl Sunday 2024 talking about big pharma Pfizer Super Bowl commercial. Remember taking a break from sports ball stepping away to log into the site seeing the commercial was pinned dropping the link to the full commercial and then sharing the story of what had just happened people started talking eventually everybody admitted they knew someone young perfectly healthy who died suddenly it was a remarkable experience

We shared memories of those who are no longer with us if someone didn't have a memory or a story they surely would in a few minutes and none of it none of the memories shared were about Facebook or social media it was real people in the real world

remember that kids

Synthetics talking to synthetics do not represent reality real people are those you can sea here and touch

As for the non direct response words are written for the reader those who are capable of articulating on the topic at hand do reach out and share appreciation those who do not have that ability they typically do the following

They parrot what they see others say and do they display no independent or critical thought

StJimmy92

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Ohio

I know him from another site where he uses the same username. He comes across as mildly schizo if he’s not summarizing a post or article

No problems good to see an account that's seen some things on Reddit perhaps they are capable of acknowledging truth articulate on the topic at hand but they just simply chose not to at this juncture

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SeawolfEmeralds@reddit

dukkha_dukkha_goose

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You ok?

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ColossusOfChoads@reddit

All the people who made the place what it was have been run outta town. Well, at least they didn't raze the buildings.

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boldjoy0050@reddit

Sadly most big cities in America are becoming this way. The cool local places close and a Starbucks or Target opens up in its place.

What's thinking more of Golden Gate the port all the culture areas not a single thought about Harvey Milk.

Gavin Newsom though. Hearing from people who were his peers back when affordable housing was doing good for those in need, it worked it didn't become what it is today.

Where people need to jump through hoops to get approved it's not a safety net it's a status where they become dependent of the statedo

They are not suppose to lift themselves up and out of poverty they need to remain there in order to be housed.

from there it becomes drug dealing or money by any means under the table.

SF. The government did bomb SF with a biological weapon simply to test if it worked people went to the hospital people died

New York Los Angeles and Chicago people mention silicone valley that's not San Francisco.

The entire operation is based on the premise that 99% will fail the one that succeeds will cover the nut

Even the one that did succeed was a complete fraud it went on for 25 years they brought a product to market. placed it in people's homes told them they were safe this product will let them know if they were at risk of illness, the product lied to them

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Serafirelily@reddit

I do a small YouTube channel for fun reviewing mostly children's books since as a SAHM with an MLS degree I need something to connect me to book culture and to have something separate from being mom. I was doing something on Asian history month when I discovered the History of Angel Island and just how messed up it was. San Francisco is the biggest port city on the West coast and I think people forget just how old it is and how important it's port has played in American history. The Bay area is also a large Navy port and was a major player in the development of nuclear weapons.

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SeawolfEmeralds@reddit

Port. Commerce transcends the governed and the government. The military also bombed the entire population of San Francisco with a biological weapon people went to the hospital 1 person died.

Commerce

when Hitler boasted to Germany with an ally like Japan 3000 years never conquered, Germany can never be defeated. what they didn't realize was Japan was conquered the entirety of the World War was Japan their ports were opened at cannon point. They had unfavorable treaties forced upon them

deleted the whole segment on port people don't really care but it's incredible. the things that they're doing to slow down commerce creat scarcity. at 1 point they were turning away freight trucks because they had the wrong color trailer, the Trucker waited 4 hours. For nothing

RainbowCrown71@reddit

Boswash has existed as term since the 1960s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash

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DoinIt989@reddit

Atlanta is extremely influential in the culture, but probably not as exciting to visit tbh. Houston is also up there, but definitely doesn't hit as hard as SF or ATL.

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Beach_Bollock@reddit

San Francisco is dying, culturally speaking.

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storrmmmmm@reddit

Oakland is thriving though

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RhubarbGoldberg@reddit

Las Vegas or Orlando. These cities are absolute shrines to our zeal for consumerism and demonstrate the glory of late stage capitalism.

I was in Vegas recently and I couldn't fucking get over how many Louis Vuitton stories were within three square miles. Every fucking casino is a whole ass shopping mall. It's crazy. Who's buying this many very expensive handkerchiefs? I don't understand.

Orlando. Holy fuck. They drained a swamp, literally, and pushed out orange groves and cattle so they could pave over cental Florida and make it a pretend land. Now, there are like half a dozen massive pretend lands and in between them all is wall to wall exact copy paste strip malls with the same Publix, Walgreens, dollar tree, nail place set up. And lots of malls. Of course.

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tu-vens-tu-vens@reddit

I don’t think Boston is in the same league as the other two here. It’s hugely important in its region, but the Silicon Valley tech scene a the US government exert their influence across the world. Having a bunch of universities is nice, but being the hub of the higher education industry isn’t quite the same as being a finance or entertainment or government center.

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theniwokesoftly@reddit

I agree, I did my capstone project for the city of Boston and when giving us our parameters and assignment the people who worked for the city full time were saying they’re a second-tier city. Not in a bad way, they’re saying that population wise and all they considered themselves a step down from New York/Chicago/LA/DC, and their list of the slightly-smaller cities was Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, St. Louis. Having lived in DC, STL, and Denver, I agree for those three.

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ComesInAnOldBox@reddit

By population DC is 22, Boston is 25, and San Francisco is 17.

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iamGIS@reddit

They're smaller than some other metro areas people have mentioned

You can't talk about a city being culturally null to the rest of the country when that city is making major contributions in all areas of the performing arts and visual arts.

Moreover, you are suggesting that there is no link between the strong performing arts culture of Houston and your ability to recognize a musician or actor from Houston. But there is a very strong connection. Beyonce was able to train at Houston's outstanding High School for the Performing and Visual Arts in part because Houstonians prioritize training artists. Her teachers were some of the finest in the business and many had retired from stages in Houston.

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OldCoaly@reddit

But does anyone outside of Houston know any of that? You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth. I’m just saying that when people think of performing arts culture they don’t think of Houston. Maybe they should.

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TexanTeaCup@reddit

Are you asking me if people outside of Houston know that the taxpayers of Houston, one of only 5 cities in America with permanent professional resident companies in all of the major performing arts disciplines value the performing arts enough to fund a highly competitive public high school for the performing arts? Because literally every school district in America reflects the values of the local population. And you find the best pubic schools for the performing arts are in the cities where the taxpayers value the performing arts.

Or are you are asking me if Houston's Opera, Ballet, Symphony, and Theaters are well known outside of Houston, then the answer is a resounding "Yes". By every measure. By national and international awards, yes. By seats told to tourists, yes. By recordings sold nationally and internationally, yes. By prestige on the performers resume, yes.

Or are you suggesting that people who are ignorant about the performing arts are also unaware that Houston has a remarkable performing arts scene? Because that's like saying that people who are ignorant about space are also unaware of the significance of NASA to Houston. Or that people who are ignorant about medicine are also unaware of the significance of the Texas Medical Center to Houston,

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OldCoaly@reddit

I get that you’re proud of Houston and it sounds great. I’m just saying that if the prompt “name a city with good performing arts” was on family feud, multiple cities would be named before Houston. Houston sounds like a gem. It really does. But I like art and music. I have attended multiple performances of the BSO in Boston and smaller events at Berklee. I like theater. I didn’t know Houston has such a culture of supporting live arts and I would bet most people, especially internationally, didn’t know that either. They have have heard of Hollywood, they’ve heard of Broadway, hell they may even have heard of the Boston or Philadelphia orchestras. But Houston is much newer to these things and doesn’t have the same renown. Good on Houston for supporting the arts and changing that.

To be clear, I’m not attacking you or Houston. I’m just pointing out that Houston may not have the reputation you think it does yet. It seems like it should earn it though.

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TexanTeaCup@reddit

So your exposure to the performing arts is a few performances. Which you like.

And this means that you have some kind of insight into how different cultural institutions in America influence the performing arts. And can speak for how the masses view said cultural institutions.

That's like saying you know the best ballet schools in America because you once saw a performance of The Nutcracker.

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GeauxCup@reddit

I feel like Austin and San Antonio are distinct enough to stand on their own, even to a non-texan. Dallas and Ft Worth are extremely distinct...once you've been there. (The two really are polar opposites.)

And a lot of filming happens in Georgia

Greater Houston is more like 5-8th largest. The city proper in Houston is gigantic, something like 700 square miles, way bigger than most other cities in the country especially east of the Mississippi. Boston proper for instance is about 40 square miles. NYC has less than half the area of Houston but is 4x as populous.

This inflates Houston's ranking when only looking at city proper population. Neighborhoods that would be well out into the suburbs in other cities are still part Houston itself.

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biddily@reddit

There's a massive difference between Boston proper and greater Boston.

Boston has like, 700,000 people. Greater Boston has 5 million and stretches into New Hampshire and Rhode Island.

Unlike the newer cities out west where as the cities grew they just expanded, Boston was already surrounded by other towns. Nowhere to expand to.

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trilobright@reddit

Boston has annexed many of its surroundings cities and towns, to the point where you can live there all your life and still lose track of what's a neighbourhood of Boston and what's an independent municipality. It may not be surrounded by empty farmland/wilderness like some cities out west, but it's not accurate to say that Boston has never expanded outward, and can't theoretically continue to do so.

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biddily@reddit

Brighton (including Allston)- 1807-1874

Charlestown- 1628-1874

Dorchester (including Mattapan)- 1630-1870

Hyde Park (including Readville)- 1868-1912

Roxbury- 1630-1868

West Roxbury (including Jamaica Plain and Roslindale)- 1851-1874

It's not like over time Boston slowly expanded. In 1870 some mayor was like, we should be bigger, and then did it.

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No_Bad2428@reddit

Texas cities are the same way. You can start on one end of San Antonio, drive in a straight line, pass through several towns and still end in San Antonio.

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Opinionated_Urbanist@reddit

Bay Area

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Achilles765@reddit

The actual fourth largest city happens to be the most diverse, with a large economic impact and with a very respectable cultural scene that people really don’t realize:: it’s Houston.

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GregorioMendelio@reddit

Miami?

BrooklynCancer17@reddit

The OP literally cited 3 of the largest cities using their city limits. Btw city limits are a thing. Idk why people like you are obsessed with metro areas that consist of numerous cities

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maclainanderson@reddit

Because the entire metro area is what's important when determining cultural and economic impact. City limits are only important for government, e.g. police forces and funds allocation, which are important but not all of what people think of when they think of a city.

Also the OP didn't mention whether they were going by city limits or metro area. The top three are the same either way: NYC, LA, and Chicago. The differences come after. Houston is #4 by official city limits, but DFW is larger by metro area. The simple fact that Atlanta has the 6th largest metro area but is #37 by city limit population (barely above fucking Omaha, NE) is a massive indicator that looking at only one of those things doesn't give you the full picture of a city

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BrooklynCancer17@reddit

No it isn’t. Most people who live outside the city only go into the city for work or maybe to do something on an evening. As a matter of fact some people don’t even go into the city and some people intentionally don’t go for many reasons (racism, classism). So idk why people say it’s important. The only contribution metro people bring to the city is just clogging up the highways to go to work downtown

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maclainanderson@reddit

What I'm trying to tell you is that you don't even have to enter the city limits to consider yourself "in the city". A man can live in Decatur, work a shift at Frogs to Dogs Training & Pet Care, go eat dinner at Steinbeck's Restaurant, then hit up Fernbank Museum for entertainment, and follow it up with dessert and coffee at ChocoLaté Coffee before heading back home without ever entering the city limits of Atlanta, but if you look at each location on a map you would not be able to tell they're not in Atlanta. There's no clear dividing line as far as people are concerned and trying to insist that there is is ridiculous.

The rest of Bay Area is boring. Redwood City is exciting, and that’s the last of exciting Bay Area. Palo Alto and San Antonio are whatever, not too bad but not exciting. SF by itself is walkable and has everything you need. There are some neighborhoods after Bay Area that are fun, eg Los Gatos but that’s it.

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Maxxonry_Prime@reddit

~~Dallas-FTW~~ DFW

New Orleans

San Francisco

Boston

Miami

Austin

Tucson

Albuquerque

Memphis

Kansas City

These are all contenders IMO

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PlusAd423@reddit

Top 10 Largest U.S. Metro Areas by Population in 2023

New York, New York – 18,937,000
Los Angeles, California – 12,534,000
Chicago, Illinois – 8,937,000
Houston, Texas – 6,707,000
Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas – 6,574,000
Miami, Florida – 6,265,000
Atlanta, Georgia – 6,106,000
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania – 5,785,000
Washington, D.C. – 5,490,000
Phoenix, Arizona – 4,717,000

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soyboydom@reddit

I think San Francisco has a shot. It’s relatively low in population compared to our actual largest cities, and SF proper is also geographically quite small, but in spite of that has achieved a high level of cultural significance both across the country and outside of it. I’ve traveled a lot internationally and lived abroad, and everywhere I go, people recognize SF when I say that’s where I’m from and are often excited to ask more about it. I think a lot of foreigners imagine it to be on par with New York as a major-city destination for tourism, and many are shocked to find out the population is under a million and that it’s not even one of the top three biggest cities in California.

I reject that.

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As someone who lives in the SF Bay Area and is extremely biased towards it, I think the area is in an in between stage of cultural relevancy

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Picklesadog@reddit

Crazy.

Silicon Valley and it's impact globally, software and hardware, as well as SF being one of the world's top tourist destinations, much more popular than any of your other mentioned cities...

Sorry, but people aren't going to Houston on their summer vacation or their honeymoon. I would guess most non-Americans wouldn't know the first thing about Houston. I'm American and can't even tell you a single thing anyone would go to Houston to see.

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omg_its_drh@reddit

Silicon Valley and it’s impact globally, software and hardware, as well as SF being one of the world’s top tourist destinations, much more popular than any of your other mentioned cities...

It’s funny that your bring up Silicon Valley and soft/hardware in a conversation about culture because anyone from the Bay Area will tell you that the impact of the tech industry has driven out a lot of the culture from SF.

SF is obviously not an irrelevant city, but a lot of its draw is based on what it was and not what it is now. Due to COL the scene has definitely changed, especially with WFH and tech kind of decentralizing itself with SF/The Bay. SF in 2024 isn’t the same as SF in 2014.

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Picklesadog@reddit

SF in 2014 wasn't the same as SF in 2004 so you can get out with that shit. I'm from the area, so we can go way back if you want.

Hardware was never in SF. But it is in the Bay. Silicon Valley is literally the center of the semiconductor industry and has been for 50 years.

Again... you putting Houston, Atlanta and Miami above SF? That is crazy.

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omg_its_drh@reddit

Lol I took am from the area (see flair). The COL and Covid really fucked SF over. I don’t even particularly care for Atlanta and Miami, but those cities are definitely dominating more culturally currently than SF is. Even in terms of movies and music those two cities are out performing SF.

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Picklesadog@reddit

Dude, you're telling me international tourists from all around the world are flocking to...

Atlanta?

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Lol okay, whatever you want to say to convince yourself that Atlanta, who most non-Americans couldn't tell you a single thing about, has more cultural influence than an internationally recognized city.

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omg_its_drh@reddit

The Atlanta music scene is very well known and has been very fruitful since the 90s. Usher, Ciara, Lil Nas X, Lil John, TLC, Childish Gambino, OutKast, TI, Jermaine Dupri, Migos, Latto, Playboi Carti,and Young Thug are just some of the examples of artists who have had big mainstream success and are from the Atlanta scene.

Even then, I’ll be really superficial and just point out all the well known reality shows that are filmed in Atlanta( Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Baddies ATL). SF isn’t really used as a filming location that much anymore.

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Picklesadog@reddit

Totally forgot about Real Housewives of Atlanta.

You got me.

I'm sure that show alone will really ramp up Atlanta's tourism scene and international recognition. I mean, it's no Real Housewives Salt Lake City, but it's still one of the top 10 Real Housewives shows out right now.

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Yossarian216@reddit

Houston has basically zero cultural impact, get out of here with that. It’s the third most significant city in its own state.

So, you think that Chicago has a more significant Hispanic culture than Miami? Miami-Dade county is 72% Hispanic while Cook county is 27%. Yes, Chicago has a solid Hispanic culture to be located so far away from any native population but it is just not the same as Miami. Have you ever been there?

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Yossarian216@reddit

No, I think Chicago has a more significant cultural impact in every other way, precisely because Miami is so dominated by its Hispanic population. Cook county has 1.3 million Hispanic residents compared to Miami Dades 1.8 million, but Chicago has a massive edge in every other demographic and isn’t that far behind in Hispanic population, and the question isn’t what city has the most significant Hispanic culture, it was general culture, so obviously Chicago is vastly more significant. And you can make the same comparison to Atlanta by substituting black for Hispanic. Chicago is obviously more overall culturally significant than either, it’s not even close.

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Jdevers77@reddit

I absolutely agree that Chicago has more cultural significance overall than either Miami or Atlanta. I started this because you stated “In fact, Chicago has triple the black population of Atlanta, and a Hispanic population bigger than the entire city of Miami.” Which is only true if you ignore that different cities in the country relate to their metro areas in wildly different ways. Some cities like Jacksonville FL basically are their metro area because they sucked up all the suburbs, some are tiny and the bulk of the population is in the suburbs like Miami and Atlanta. Chicago is somewhere in the middle.

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omg_its_drh@reddit

I’m curious what the other two most significant cities in Texas are because I know you’re not talking about Dallas or Austin.

The rest of your point is convoluted.

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Yossarian216@reddit

I am talking about Dallas and Austin, because both are more present in the culture than Houston. Nobody outside the oil industry ever th8nk about Houston, it’s a cultural nonentity.

And how is my point convoluted? You mention a bunch of cities that can only compete with Chicago in a few categories but are well behind it in many others. That makes Chicago objectively more significant than any of them, because the question was general cultural significance.

My rankings:

phoenix is alot bigger than people think it’s the 5th largest in the US

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nymrod_@reddit

And it’s a cultural wasteland. Next.

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hatstand69@reddit

Can confirm. There is nothing particularly appealing about Phoenix. The other notable cities in Arizona have some level of appeal and culture, while Phoenix’s major contribution to the state is a highway system.

It’s more or less runoff from people who couldn’t cut it in Los Angeles

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welcometogoodburger7@reddit

It is interesting as a case study of desert reclamation in the mass air conditioning era, but the city culture is truly lacking, as you say. Arizona has some incredibly beautiful places, though (Scottsdale is not one of them).

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hatstand69@reddit

I think phoenix is a case of urban sprawl that has gotten completely out of control. When you build housing for 3 million new people in the span of 60 years culture dies and sprawl is inevitable. Compare to Tucson, which grew a little more organically and slowly and still has retained a pretty quirky artsy culture that blends western American, Mexican, and Native cultures…it feels like a southwestern city.

I’m a Florida native, and my favorite cities/areas are Saint Augustine, Gainesville, Micanopy, Cedar Key (which I think is flattened now 😢), Venice, and the Keys even though they’re pretty ruined by the damn cruise ships and commercialization. Cassadaga is really cool for a weekend trip, too.

But, Miami can be really fun especially around the Little Havana spots and I think culturally it has had a significant impact and tons of neat architecture and things to explore. The only big Florida city I really dislike is Orlando, and of course Tampa which I just find so boring and clustered.

Depending on a person’s interests they’re either going to enjoy the Hell out of Miami or just be miserable about the traffic. 😂

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Ocarina_of_Crime_@reddit

I lived in St. Augustine and 100% agree although I’m worried about the impact of tourism on it. It’s totally killing the vibe but I’ll always love it.🥰

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LexiNovember@reddit

Is it getting super touristy? That’s a shame, I want people to enjoy it but at the same time hope it won’t lose the overall vibe. I haven’t been in years but want to take my son up to visit soon!

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Ocarina_of_Crime_@reddit

There’s still a ton to love. I think the town used to have an ebb and flow and there were tourist seasons vs now where it seems fairly constant. It used to be much cheaper for working class folks to live and spend time downtown and that’s changed over the past 15 years albeit slowly.

Danjour@reddit

100% Philadelphia. Sports, history, size, political importance, self importance.

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Delicious-Ad5856@reddit

Why did this take so long to appear? History, culture.

Every texas city got more cultural than ny,chi and la 🤣

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Mediocre-Magazine-30@reddit

Miami

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SnugglyBabyElie@reddit

Cultural significance? Miami

atlanta or houston.

you’ve got the west coast, east coast, and midwest represented, need a southern city.

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PossibilityDecent688@reddit

Charlotte

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godless_pantheon@reddit

Centralia, PA

because fuck it, why not

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KilD3vil@reddit

There are only three American cities, New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland. -Tennessee Williams

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RoutineCranberry3622@reddit

Bosnywash megalopolis Chile be considered one big unit almost. Starts as far north as man chest hair new hamster down to like Raleigh I think.

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youfailedthiscity@reddit

Paris, IL

Geriatric0Millennial@reddit

As an Atlanta native, Boston dweller for over a decade, currently residing in Atlanta, I have to agree!

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pekingsewer@reddit

I love when Atlanta gets the respect it deserves 😭

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CaliforniaHope@reddit

It definitely deserves it. Atlanta's history is awesome. I think it's gotta be Atlanta or Miami

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RhubarbGoldberg@reddit

Those are the two that came to mind first, then I was thinking about culture and as loathe as I am to admit it, Orlando. Fuck. I hate that I think that answer may have merit.

j2e21@reddit

It’s where all the most powerful people in the world live.

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TheTravelingTurtle@reddit

DC has the Smithsonians, plenty of historical and important sites (all of the monuments), and high profile music venues (Kennedy center being one). Seeing the national symphony orchestra at wolf trap? Amazing!

sixtteenninetteennee@reddit

SF, DC, or Atlanta

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MoreCowsThanPeople@reddit

Denver would be the 4th from a timezone perspective.

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mikezer0@reddit

New Orleans DC and Boston.

DC, Houston, Boston probs

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Zardozin@reddit

Washington

The metro area is just as sprawling

After that. Likely the Houston or Atlanta sprawls

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Bossman1212@reddit

Houston Texas

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thatrightwinger@reddit

New York represents the Northeastern Megalopolis. Chicago, to a certain extent, is a Great Midwestern city. Los Angeles is the grand city of the west.

The sunbelt needs to be represented, and the two most obvious cities are Houston, Texas and Jacksonville, Florida.

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pinniped1@reddit

I'd vote DC, slightly edging SF.

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igwaltney3@reddit

My first thought is San Francisco, at least from a historical perspective. With Detroit being the 2nd option.

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tlopez14@reddit

Houston or San Fran/Bay Area. Boston and Philly are overshadowed by New York.

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ComesInAnOldBox@reddit

By population, the nation's largest cities are:

New York City Los Angeles Chicago Houston Phoenix Philadelphia San Antonio San Diego Dallas San Jose

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anonanon5320@reddit

Orlando. Disney World. Argument over unless you say Kissimmee because technically correct.

It’s the center of Florida, supports 4 top conference schools, 3 NFL teams, is the top tourist destination with a lot of different cultural influence, and is home to Disney World, Sea World, and Universal Studios (which has the largest Halloween even).

It’s also support to our nations Space program and home of the largest PI law firm in the US.

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MarauderCH@reddit

Houston

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SirWilliamBruce@reddit

Philadelphia! Independence Mall, Philadelphia Museum of Art, the Barnes, the Rodin Museum, city hall. And it’s one of the best food cities in the country! Go to Angelo’s if you get a cheesesteak. It’s cash only and they won’t take phone orders if it’s busy. So worth it.

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Khuros@reddit

I mean population is what decides this even though OP is asking outside of that

enchiladanada@reddit

Boston or DC

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Rennie000@reddit

Philadelphia

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Bookworm8989@reddit

Seattle

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Dangerous_Ad6580@reddit

Atlanta

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Sauerbraten5@reddit

According to the Globalization and World Cities Research Network's classifications for US cities,

Alpha++ cities: NYC
Alpha cities: Chicago, LA
Alpha- cities: Boston, Houston, SF, DC (I guess any of these would be contenders for your question)

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Gyvon@reddit

Either Houston or Dallas, to complete the diamond

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Grouchy-Display-457@reddit

Miami

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marenamoo@reddit

Philadelphia for Liberty Bell, Independence Hall and cheesesteaks

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seajayacas@reddit

Strictly by population within city limits, Houston is number 4 in the US.

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Ecstatic-Garden-678@reddit

Vegas baby!

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Khuros@reddit

Unfortunately this gets decided for you based on population. Houston, TX is objectively the fourth biggest city at 2,314,157 people in 2023.

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Wesperado@reddit

I vote Houston.

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Aggravating-Yam-9603@reddit

Sf baby west coast

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Yourappwontletme@reddit

Seattle

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welcometogoodburger7@reddit

100% Washington. It's our capital! It is objectively one of the five most powerful cities in the world. It's America. It's a real city. Damn, I really love living here.

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G00dSh0tJans0n@reddit

If you go with metro areas then Dallas-Fort Worth is 4th and Houston 5th. Some would say Houston is the 4th city but it lacks the oversized cultural impact the 3 you mentioned. Atlanta, the 6th largest metro, has at least the same level of cultural impact as Houston, if not more but everyone feel free to argue in the replies.

Seattle
Philadelphia
Boston
Dallas
Atlanta
Memphis
San Francisco
Las Vegas
Miami

Washington, DC without a doubt.

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Dark_Tora9009@reddit

Nah… we wish (as DMVers) but I think SF or even Miami are more important culturally.

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turkeyisdelicious@reddit

Detroit, Denver, Miami

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kn1ght-of-heart@reddit

Boston

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Dark_Tora9009@reddit

By size it’s already Houston… I’ve heard it’s projected to pass Chicago, but I’ve never been and I hear it’s a bit sprawly and doesn’t feel as much like a proper “city” per se (you can say the same about LA lol).

Rajshaun1@reddit

Philly or Atlanta possibly dc and Miami? 🤔

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reaperoftoes@reddit

Houston is the 4th largest after those 3.

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michelle427@reddit

Boston

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ShutUpDoggo@reddit

Miami

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WrestlingPromoter@reddit

Houston.

That’s funny, I don’t think about chicago as one. I’m probably wrong, I just literally forget it exists.

Boston San Francisco Austin

Not in terms of size, but if current cultural relevance

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No-Independence548@reddit

Boston. Incredible schools and hospitals, amazing American history.

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lovejac93@reddit

Atlanta culturally

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CaptainHunt@reddit

San Francisco or Seattle.

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ElysianRepublic@reddit

Washington, DC.

Houston, besides being mathematically correct, is the only Southern city on the list - and the most Actually Southern by a mile and a half. And the most American city of them all.

NASA, gunfights, the most sprawl of all sprawl cities, oil rigs, high interracial marriage rate. It’s like Miami w/o the beach, like New Orleans without the class, driving down the George Bush expressway at 90mph in an F250

No question

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CompostAwayNotThrow@reddit

I agree that I would add Houston as fourth.

But Houston isn’t really southern. And there’s no George Bush Expressway there. I think there may be a highway in Dallas with that name though.

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justonemom14@reddit

Dallas has PGBT, the President George Bush Turnpike, and yes it has plenty of people going 90 in their F250s on it.

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ShermansMasterWolf@reddit

We don't have a problem.

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smaxlab@reddit

Maaaaan I gotta advocate for my city here. Houston! We are literally the 4th largest city in the country, and our culture is great!

I would put our culinary scene up against any other city. We have world class restaurants. On any given night I can get amazing Mexican food, sushi, Indian, barbecue, Italian, southern/soul food, seafood, you name it.

Our music scene is iconic between chopped and screwed, country, all kinds of Latin music. We have some great concert venues!

We've got our rodeo, NASA, we've got a coast an hour away and pine forest a couple hours away to meet your outdoor needs. We've got all the major sports teams except NHL (we want one!)

Cultural significance? San Francisco.

Population? Houston.

I like the fact that those 3 are very spread out., and fairly different from each other.

Miami.

It's not the next biggest, but in terms of cultural significance and international recognition, it truly exceeds any other option.

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ludicrous780@reddit

Why wouldn't it be Dallas?

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CandidPalpitation427@reddit

Seattle

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Tommy_Wisseau_burner@reddit

Some combination of Houston, Philly, Atlanta, and the bay area

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RunFarEatPizza@reddit

It’s Houston in terms of population. Lot of mix of culture.

Some great suggestions, including most of Texas, and Atlanta.

Yossarian216@reddit

Chicago is a significant step above all of those you mention. Bigger population, bigger economy, far more cultural impact. The only place that gets close is the Bay Area, but that requires combining three major cities together and still falls short economically despite all that tech money, and is less culturally relevant.

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HudsonYardsIsGood@reddit

If you had to split the top three cities in two classes, certainly NY would be in one, and Chicago and LA would be in another.

First, the NYC population alone exceeds Chicago and LA together. Second, in general lifestyle/culture, Chicago and LA are far more similar to each other than either is to NY.

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Maquina_en_Londres@reddit

I don't agree with that second take at all.

I would say Chicago in lifestyle and culture is more like New York than LA by far. If I were to compare LA to another large US city, I think the better comparison is Houston.

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