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SnooDoubts807@reddit

Upgrade GPU - 4070S and CPU - 5700X3D,

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Arcangelo_Frostwolf@reddit

You can get a 5700X3D on AliExpress for $150

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DeadoTheDegenerate@reddit

Here before this gets downvoted into oblivion by the newbie PC builders that act like they know everything.

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DeadoTheDegenerate@reddit

People see AliExpress and shit themselves

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Ah i see, well thats more about a sales platform thats been known in some circles for some knockoffs/bad purchases, and kinda has nothing to do with PC builders. New or old you might not trust ali express lol.

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Xaan83@reddit

It's all about the vendor. Some are awful, and some are reliable. Comet Crash is the seller that everyone here orders from and they deliver in about 10-14 days. I've gotten a $363 7800X3D and $181 5700X3D from them, no issues at all.

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jsmrf@reddit

I decided to get my 5600X from this vendor to see if Aliexpress, or at the very least Comet Crash, is worth it going forward. For €101 it was hard to not take a chance on it. Saying 1st of December minimum on delivery though. I guess they have expedited shipping for US market?

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Xaan83@reddit

I'm in Canada, but I'd imagine NA is all very similar

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jsmrf@reddit

Yeah I guess being in Ireland it has to pass through a couple dozen borders in mainland EU first. Goody!

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Cautious_Village_823@reddit

Not saying anything about ali express one way or another, simply stating its not a builder thing old or new, its an ali express thing lol.

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Waylon_Gnash@reddit

one might level the same criticisms against amazon.

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jsmrf@reddit

Whether or not it's shit depends entirely on the individual using it. Probably has the rep it has because too many people who didn't know what they were doing got scammed. That and it was where a bunch of fake 7800X3D's were being dumped only a couple of months ago.

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NoFoot6210@reddit

Hell you can get a new one with a warranty for $50 more

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ewoknub@reddit

Why are they so much cheaper on aliexpress compared to local stores?

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jsmrf@reddit

Because the vast majority of them are used. Hence the no box or warranty.

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PAcMAcDO99@reddit

no most are brand new

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ewoknub@reddit

I had a look further. It seems that they are cheaper because they are tray oems not retail stock.

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Corkfire@reddit

Are you Ali at AliExpress?

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PAcMAcDO99@reddit

my name is Ali Express

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Corkfire@reddit

It is truly an honor sir

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doobied@reddit

That's Mr Express to you

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Corkfire@reddit

It is an honor Mr Express

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jsmrf@reddit

Most are *advertised as new, whether or not that is indeed the case nobody knows.

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Urtho@reddit

They are primarily stock that was meant to go to OEMs, unboxed processors. No warranty either.

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karmapopsicle@reddit

This is the real answer. They're OEM tray processors with no AMD warranty, retail box, etc.

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Arcangelo_Frostwolf@reddit

Supply, demand, and you're paying in USD, the global reserve currency, to a seller based in China, a communist state. Hey Alexa, what is "Balance of payments"

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kaleperq@reddit

Maybe it's better to upgrade to am5 for longevity since there are few budget constraints

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jsmrf@reddit

*And make sure the BIOS is up to date and can support the 5000 series.

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

This should be done whether you add a new CPU or you don't.

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Skepsis93@reddit

Eh, bios updates are one of the few updates I hold off on until necessary.

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

That's a mistake. We're no longer in 2003.

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Taskr36@reddit

Sometimes updating is a mistake, especially with Asus. I'm stuck running my 3600 RAM at 2133 speeds because a BIOS update fucked things up making the board unstable with the RAM any faster than that. I used to be the guy that kept his BIOS up to date all the time, but I'll never recommend that for an Asus board ever again unless there's a damn good reason for it. I RMAed the board twice and they never fixed the problem, so I just gave up and accepted that that's how it is now.

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

Well, I never liked ASUS. My mainboards are always from Gigabyte. Imo, the best motherboard manufacturer. I never had a problem with their boards, bios, config. They are just reliable.

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TinyDuckInASuit@reddit

Occasionally, vendors release bios updates for the sake of patching vulnerabilities. For example, the Sinkhole Vulnerability for AMD processors not too long ago.

Always check for bios updates regarding security patches and microcode updates for improved performance or stability.

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jsmrf@reddit

I guess, but generally you won't unlock the extra PCIE lanes unless you have the CPU to utilize them.

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

The BIOS upgrade doesn't just allow new CPUs. Fixed errors, smoother running cause better microcode, et cetera. The "never change a running system!" Was valid when hatdware had been tested, and version 1.0 was good. Today, they come with kids' diseases, and they need to be remedied.

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jsmrf@reddit

Well sure if there are known errors and improvements but it isn't always necessary so I wouldn't consider it a must.

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Waylon_Gnash@reddit

it's typically only a must or even a consideration when someone's bought some new hardware or is starting virtual machines or something.

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jsmrf@reddit

How would not being on the latest BIOS effect Virtual Machines if the version you're on supports you CPU? Genuine question, first time I've heard of there being a link between the two.

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Boot_Shrew@reddit

Don't forget the newest chipset drivers either.

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Breadnailedtoatree@reddit

Depends on his board but I updated my board on a new build yesterday and it’s so easy with Q-flash plus, would deffo recommend following this OP

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jsmrf@reddit

Given that he's running an R5 3600 I would say it's an old BIOS

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karmapopsicle@reddit

Just running an older gen CPU doesn't really tell you anything about what BIOS shipped on the board when they bought it, nor whether or not they've kept up with BIOS updates to address security vulnerabilities. Assuming OP's using the Asus B550 Plus, that board has supported the 5700X3D since BIOS 2803 from April 2022, so any update in the past 2.5 years would mean the board is already compatible.

That's really besides the point though. Never a bad idea to install the latest update before dropping in a newer CPU regardless.

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jsmrf@reddit

I meant perhaps the 5000 series wasn't available then, hence his BIOS probably doesn't support it. OP didn't say how old the build is so it could be before that update was released.

And no, I would not tell people to update the BIOS if there is no reason to. Especially if they don't know what they're doing.

They aren't always a necessity.

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Waylon_Gnash@reddit

there's a lot of boards out there that came out before the 5000 series that support it. a ton. all of the x570 stuff, etc came out with the 3000 series, for instance and will support 5000. its definitely worth looking and it's definitely worth keeping your bios up to date if you frequently buy components for your computer.

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jsmrf@reddit

How can older boards manufactured and sold prior to 5000 series support it without the latest BIOS?

And yes, if there is a genuine reason to do so then you should update the BIOS but I wouldn't advise people to do it just for the sake of doing it.

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GrimSlayer@reddit

Doesn’t the B550 support ryzen 5000 series out of the box? Still not a bad idea to update the bios though.

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Waylon_Gnash@reddit

not out of the box for all memory frequencies, you'll probably have to update the bios, but the updates are already available.

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tony78ta@reddit

Normally, yes, but this is probably 2-3 years old or more. So would need a bios update anyway.

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Skepsis93@reddit

I think even some of the earliest releases of b550 boards had out of the box support. The x570 which came out first is more likely to need bios update.

Nevertheless, I'd still update bios.

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karmapopsicle@reddit

B550 launched months before Ryzen 5000, so plenty of boards did not ship with support. OP's Asus B550 Plus came out end of May 2020, just over 5 months before the first batch of Ryzen 5000 chips launched.

More importantly, to support a 5700X3D the board needs at least AGESA 1.2.0.7 (I believe that's the first one that added the microcode for the 5800X3D spring 2022), which in this case would be BIOS update 2803 for OP's motherboard released end of April 2022.

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jsmrf@reddit

I just bought an Asus board and I was advised I'd need to update the BIOS for the 5800X so I would say it's not the case. Newer boards fresh from the factory would probably have the latest BIOS.

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jsmrf@reddit

Nope not automatically. I just bought a B550 Mobo and the retailer advised me I will have to update the BIOS for the 5800X. Maybe if you bought one that was just recently manufacture you could be lucky. B600 boards would likely be ready to go out of the box.

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Mist3r_Numb_3r@reddit

He doesn't have to, he has a b550 motherboard

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Honest-Ad1675@reddit

I like the 5700x3d, but unless op is into ray tracing specifically I think a 7900GRE or XT would be a better fit with the same or more vram at a much better price.

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karmapopsicle@reddit

Meh. It's all just a matter of tradeoffs in this market segment right now. Between the GRE and the 4070S you save ~$20-50 and gain a few percent extra raster performance, at the cost of 50W+ additional power consumption, substantially worse RT performance, losing the entire DLSS feature stack, etc.

OP is talking about enjoying graphically demanding games on ultra, which these days certainly means cranking up the eye candy on modern titles implementing various levels of RTGI. I'd argue Ray Reconstruction alone is almost enough to push the needle to the 4070S in that comparison even ignoring everything else.

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randylush@reddit

Or 3080

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

57003XD

Are those still micro center exclusive?

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TransientEons@reddit

The 5600x3D (and 7600x3D) are Micro Center exclusives. The 5700x3D, to my knowledge, was never a Micro Center exclusive.

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Rare-Trade443@reddit

Can get them on Amazon now, or even AliExpress if you're feeling brave

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

Exactly.

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S0ulSauce@reddit

Upgrading is what I'd do as well. 5700X3D and 4070S would be a big big step up in performance that would make you happy for a while.

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KnightXFighter@reddit

Upgrading to an RTX 4070 Super makes a lot of sense for your situation, especially since you're aiming to game at 1440p with high settings. Let’s break down how this upgrade would fit into your current build, what it would improve, and whether you’d need any other upgrades.

1. The GPU Upgrade (RTX 4070 Super)

The RTX 4070 Super is a significant step up from the GTX 1660 Super, especially in terms of raw power, ray tracing capabilities, and DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling) support. DLSS 3.5, available on the 4070 Super, can help maintain high frame rates at 1440p by using AI to upscale from lower resolutions, which is ideal for demanding titles. This will help you achieve smooth performance at ultra settings on 1440p.
The 4070 Super is designed for mid-to-high-end 1440p gaming and even entry-level 4K gaming, making it a great fit for your 1440p monitor.

2. Compatibility with Current Build

CPU Bottleneck: Your Ryzen 5 3600 is a capable 6-core, 12-thread CPU, but it’s starting to show its age in more CPU-intensive games or in scenarios that demand high frame rates. At 1440p with ultra settings, though, you’re generally more GPU-bound, which means the GPU will handle the bulk of the work. However, if you’re aiming for very high frame rates (over 100 FPS) in certain modern AAA games, the R5 3600 could hold back the 4070 Super slightly.
Recommendation: You can still go ahead with the 4070 Super upgrade, as it will provide a major improvement in visual quality and frame rates. Down the line, if you find that certain games are bottlenecked by the CPU, consider upgrading to a Ryzen 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5800X, both of which are compatible with your B550 motherboard and will pair well with the 4070 Super.
RAM: For 1440p gaming, 16GB is generally sufficient but pushing settings to ultra in newer, more demanding games could benefit from 32GB, especially for titles that are heavy on textures or use large open-world maps. If you notice stuttering or RAM usage near 16GB in Task Manager, upgrading to 32GB could smooth things out.
PSU (700W): The 4070 Super has a recommended PSU of around 600W, so your 700W PSU is more than enough. Just ensure it's a good-quality, preferably 80+ Gold-rated unit to handle the power needs reliably.

3. Future-Proofing and Performance Considerations

Bottleneck Balancing: For most games at 1440p, the 4070 Super should pair decently with your R5 3600. However, in very CPU-demanding games or simulations, you may see that your CPU is maxed out, particularly if you’re aiming for high frame rates. If you plan to keep this setup for a while, a future CPU upgrade would ensure you get the most out of the 4070 Super.
Enhanced Graphics and Ray Tracing: The 4070 Super will allow you to enjoy ray tracing and higher graphical fidelity, something the GTX 1660 Super couldn’t handle well. DLSS will also enhance performance without compromising visual quality, which is a big advantage at 1440p resolution.

4. Recommended Upgrade Path

Step 1: Upgrade to the RTX 4070 Super. This will deliver a massive improvement in frame rates and visual quality at 1440p without needing any other immediate upgrades.
Step 2 (Optional): Upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5800X down the line if you feel the CPU becomes a bottleneck. Both CPUs are compatible with your B550 motherboard and will improve frame rates and consistency in CPU-intensive titles.

Summary

The RTX 4070 Super is an excellent choice for your setup and will let you game at 1440p with high/ultra settings comfortably. Your R5 3600 will work well in the meantime, though a future upgrade to a higher-tier Ryzen CPU might help maximize performance in particularly CPU-intensive games. With your existing components, particularly the 700W PSU, this upgrade path is straightforward and doesn’t necessitate an overhaul of your system.

This GPU upgrade will deliver an impressive improvement in gaming experience without the need to replace your entire setup—at least for now!

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Agitated-Shoulder-75@reddit

R5 3600 is an upgrade?? lol i have the 5600 just simply for bitcoin mining on the side they are cheap and not much of an upgrade at all.. Dont use the internet to spread more false information...

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areax91@reddit

Why throw the baby out with the bath water? I'd upgrade your rig's CPU, GPU, and RAM if I were you. Specifically...
1. Swap the 3600 with a 5700x3d (update the mobo's bios first).

Increase your RAM to 32 GB (another 16 GB kit is fine if you have 4 slots, otherwise a 32 GB kit from T-Create or Silicon Power should do fine).
Get the 4070 Super you've been looking at. Alternately, you can get a RX 7800XT to save $160 and get additional VRAM or you can pay an additional $150 or so to land a 4070 Ti Super (which is my personal GPU for more VRAM and superior RT performance).

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Thick-Weekend-2205@reddit

I had a very similar setup. Same gpu and 2600. I upgraded to 5700x3D and 7800xt and it feels like a new machine. Can play any game maxed out at 1440p and some at 4K (I mostly play BG3 which runs great at 4K)

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tht1guy63@reddit

5700x3d and 4070 super go.

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double0nothing@reddit

Well, you could always upgrade your GPU, try it out with your current system, then see if it's giving you the performance you want.

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alialattraqchi@reddit (OP)

This is looking like what I'm gonna do because it's the most money saving option and makes total sense tbh. Thank you!

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Dapper-Conference367@reddit

With a R5 3600 the best you can get is a 6700 XT, even a 6800 will be too much for the CPU (talking by second hand experience).

Equivalent would be around 3060 Ti / 3070 for Nvidia.

I can play any game in 1440p with my 6700 XT (I have a 5700X3D and 32GB RAM tho) but surely not AAA games with stunning visuals (titles u suggested you like when you said you enjoyed graphically demanding games) on high settings if I want above 60 FPS.

So I'd say keep the mobo but update BIOS first, then get a 4070S or, if you don't care about RT and DLSS, get a 7900 GRE which is slightly cheaper (at least in my country, prices may vary) and have comparable performance in pure rasterization while also having more VRAM, which seems to be really needed given the way PC games developers are going.

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kaleperq@reddit

Idk why you get downvoted and the general idea of a 6700xt not being an entry level 1440p card, but I'm planning to do a build whith that in the future unless the 7700xt falls 50 bucks in a year, whitch it probably will.

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Dapper-Conference367@reddit

Some folks with 0 knowledge like to downvote, then some other see a downvote and just follow the mass... it's reddit, it's full of useless people that like to argue rather than help OP.

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kaleperq@reddit

I sometimes argue about stuff, not always related to OP, but still I think it's an interesting topic or I thing they said something wrong and I might correct it, be wrong and learn or just piss off a kid who just gives empty answers to, what I belive, is an important topic for pc knowledge. And I don't see it being bad, although some don't like it, it's a social media after all, not everything is about helping OP(even if its pchelp), we gotta have fun.

Anyways, do you know stuff about monitors, specifically how bad is slight image duplication from baclight strobing like from this(rtings link) monitor? And if would be better to not use it since the experience whithought it is already very good.

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SlickTread@reddit

I also had a Ryzen 5 3600 and did decide to go for a 6800XT back when I upgraded as I knew it was too much for the CPU but still wanted to have some future proofing where I could upgrade just my CPU and have much better performance. May have been a "waste" for a little while as I wasn't able to use the full potential of the card, however now I have recently upgraden the the 7800X3D and my entire system I so much faster now while not needing to buy a new GPU.

So still might be worth getting a slightly nicer GPU now to save some more later when upgrading, ofcourse depends on which 30xx card op has now.

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Dapper-Conference367@reddit

OP said he has a 1660S so surely even a 4070S with CPU bottleneck will be a better experience than what he's having rn, but in some titles CPU bottleneck means constant stutter and unplayable experience (in my experience only simulator games gave me this issue, not sure how many nor which specific titles could give same result), so it depends on which titles OP will play and how it'll be for him.

Surely he could just get a 4070S and wait to change mobo and RAM for a 9800X3D since it will be out soon, if he wants to upgrade to AM5, or could just buy a 5700X3D after seeing performance not being up to expectations with the 3600 and save up a lot of money but having no more upgradability path after this on AM4.

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MrDankyStanky@reddit

It also feels kind of cool to robocop your pc up and watch it turn into a new machine lol

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S0ulSauce@reddit

This is true also. If you aren't happy, the GPU is not wasted and will be great in a new build.

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Alternative-Pie345@reddit

5700X3D and a 7800XT or 7900GRE or 4070S on Black Friday sales. I have a hunch there's going to be big discounts as AMD and NVIDIA will try to clear stock for the upcoming 8000 and 5000 series launches

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Static_o@reddit

Sell it to upgrade

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durantant@reddit

Slap a 4070 Super first, see if there's any bottleneck, and if there is, if it bothers you, just then think about upgrading the CPU together with it

there's nobody pointing a shotgun to you and forcing you to buy both the gpu and cpu together

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catalinashenanigans@reddit

How do you determine if there's a bottleneck and, if there is, that is the CPU?

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durantant@reddit

If the GPU is not under 100% usage (95% is about the same, the sensors will almost never report 100%) it's because the CPU isn't fast enough to be able to deliver it enough frame data for the GPU to render

The higher the resolution the smaller the bottleneck because the higher the load to the GPU. If the best a CPU can do is 60fps (this doesn't change depending on resolution, your CPU doesn't care about resolution) and a GPU is able to render 120fps there is a 50% bottleneck, but in 4K the same GPU might be able to only render 60fps, in this case there'll be a 0% bottleneck

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ExplodingFistz@reddit

can the sensors report 100% cpu usage?

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ThatOnePerson@reddit

It can but it's unlikely. Also it can be worse because of how cores work. Not every game uses all available cores, so if your game is only use half your cores, but 100% of those cores, you still have a CPU bottleneck (for that game) but it'll show up as 50% usage.

Looking at GPU usage is more reliable (and make sure framerates are uncapped and vsync is off)

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catalinashenanigans@reddit

What's the best way to evaluate CPU and GPU usage? Task Manager? I have AMD Adrenalin but not much else.

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durantant@reddit

MSI Afterburner

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jroberts2652@reddit

Can back this up, r5 3500x and a rtx4060. Between 1080p and 1440p, I drop pretty much 0 frames due to bottlenecking

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durantant@reddit

In which games?

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jroberts2652@reddit

Black ops 6 surprisingly! Apex Legends too, although those are the only two games I’ve played recently so pinch of salt.

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NoHandle6266@reddit

All you need is a 5600 and a rx 6750 xt for 1440p for a few years

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ExplodingFistz@reddit

Upgraded to a 5700X3D + 6700 XT. Couldn't ask for more

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Elvish_Costello@reddit

Exactly this. I upgraded mine from 3700x and 2060 to a 5800X3D and 6750xt and it kills now. Even pushing it in 4k, I can get high 50s fps in Starfield...with FSR.

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Taskr36@reddit

I'd just upgrade the GPU. The GTX 1600 series was always kind of bleh. I don't even understand the point if it, since they never made anything better than just ok in that series.

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Ratiofarming@reddit

Put the 4070S in and try that first. You might not need anything else, depending on what games you play.

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justa-Possibility@reddit

My friend, i would definitely just upgrade. It's a decent mobo. So AM4 is great still. Just slap in a ryzen 5 5600x, ryzen 7 5700x or 5700x3d or 5800x3d, and update the bios.

Then, just upgrade the GPU.. what is memory situation.

I recently upgraded my system.

I have an ASROCK B450M Pro4 v1 mobo

Upgraded from Ryzen 5 2600x to 5600x for ($95)

Upgraded from 2x8 2667 to 2x16 3200 cl16 ($60)

Upgraded from Nvidia GTX1660TI to AMD Radeon Asrock RX6750XT Challenger Pro 12Gig GPU ($325) and it Rocks!.

Way way better!

I can always slap a Ryzen 7 5800x3d and better GPU later, so I'm great for at least 3 to 4 years. Then probably go AM5 or AM6 we'll see.

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

Burn it to the ground. Sell it for $200 and start over. Your case is ancient.

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

A case is the best part to reuse again and again. Mine is nearly a decade old and covered in stickers. Works fine

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

It's not about functional. Do people remodel their homes? A 10 year old case is ancient and not current with today's trends. Buy a new case for a fresh perspective. Also nobody wants that old busted mobo with pcie3 and wifi 6 (or worse). It's time to have something nice.

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

Waste not

That's just more plastic for the landfill, that eventually gets into you food and blood

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

You're a comedian I see, and obviously a guy. I've thrown out a new refrigerator because it was the wrong color.

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

What the fuck man.

Everything you throw away ends up poisoning our future food and water.

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

I won't be around by the time it does!!! So everyone should reuse old 90's cases for the environment? That's ridiculous. No. We are a consumer culture. We buy what we want and discard the rest.

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

Our sperm counts are already dropping because of trash other people have thrown away in our past

Sure, you can justify anything you want with "It won't affect me", but that makes you a psychopath

Consume to survive or enjoy, not for vanity or color. Fuck me. That's wasteful as shit. Makes me wish we had a dystopia where you could be arrested for that

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

As a woman, I could care less about your dropping counts. I also refuse to recycle. I genuinely can't be bothered. The dumps will be around for my lifetime.

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AnnoyedCrustacean@reddit

I'd also certainly rather meet a bear in the woods than you

Good day, don't fuck up the planet too badly for the rest of us

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Distinct-Race-2471@reddit

Then you can pick up after me. You are more than welcomed to do so. It is silly you want this gentleman to keep his old busted case from 2010 just for "your" planet.

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clare416@reddit

1660 super

running everything on ultra graphics + 1440p.

Just saying, you don't need to crank up all to Ultra. High is enough

Btw, before this I used GTX 1660 Ti (same as Super) myself at 1440p except my CPU is a weaker I3-10105F. Upgraded to a used RTX 3060 12GB last year

If you can afford RTX 4070 Super, definitely go with this first and see how it run for you

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rory888@reddit

Depends on your budget. If you have a higher budget, just go for a new pc all together.

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Harusamov@reddit

Used to be in a similar situation and upgraded to a 5700X3D and 4070, juicing that platform for a good 5 more years.

Just get a 4070S and a 5700X3D, you'll be performing amazing on the cheap (got my X3D for 136€ and 4070 for 500€ about a year ago)

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Package_Objective@reddit

5700x3d

Any amd or green team gpu with 12gb of vram or more

Make sure your bios are up to date

32 gb of 3200 or 3600mhz ram

No need for a new system.

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Sage2050@reddit

Make it into a home server

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BlckMlr@reddit

Just upgrade the GPU and CPU

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AdBasic2725@reddit

I went with an 5700x3D and 4080S for my upgrades from an 3600/2060S and play everything at 4k max very comfortable 70-150 fps on avg can even max out 240 on competitive games and 1080p can get upto 400 FPS on FPS

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ayodezofficial@reddit

My build was basically the same with a 550w power supply and a b450, I upgraded my gpu to a 3080 and my psu to a 750w and its been serving me well, I’d say going with a newer gpu and cpu should be just fine

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zonked282@reddit

My pc had pretty much the same specs, swapped the 1660s to a 4070 and it plays everything great!

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Ty_Lee98@reddit

upgrades. start with gpu and maybe go for other components down the line. x3d chip and maybe 32 gigs of ram maybe faster if it isn't already.

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Corkfire@reddit

Dont set your sights too hard on RTX 4000 cards, RTX 5000 are around the corner so i would wait. If you really, really know what youre doing and what RTX 4070 SUPER can give you performance wise, i would do a full custom build and not just buy the card (when the price drops after 5000 release).

I would check thoroughly if the system you have, first and foremost, can support the card. Your PSU is a bit weak, the recommendation (I THINK) is 750 W.
It is at least 750 W.

Check any benchmarks done on a similar system to yours with the RTX 4070 SUPER if the performance is good with your current setup. Or even viable.

Also check demo videos, some might compare GTX 1660 to RTX 4070 SUPER, and maybe other cards that are better value now. Radeon GPUs arent super shabby. But RTX are overall better when it comes to raytracing, if that is very important when you play games. There are many videos where professionals discuss value and performance of all cards in all ranges for 2024, i would check these out to get a better understanding beyond the NVIDIA vs AMD bias. When youve really set your sights on something, check if you have the requirements. etc, etc.

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kuksikoop@reddit

you dont need to upgrade, you could, but dont need to. id reccomend selling some components, not the whole pc. sell the cpu while it has decent sale prices, and sell the gpu. before you sell make sure that ur bios is updated. then get a r7 x3d chip. i reccomend the 5700x3d more. and a radeon chip since you seem like the type of guy who wouldnt do much cuda tasks. and rt is just an fps killer

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jalerre@reddit

Like others are saying, upgrade the GPU but I would wait until the 5000 series comes out. Even if you don’t want to get one of the new cards, the last gen cards should drop in price.

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Streydog77@reddit

I have a 3600 with 16gb of ram and just bought a rx6800 ($360) to replace my 1660 S. I also just bought 1440 180hz monitor. I am very happy with the decision, a big improvement. I thought about a 7800xt but decided to go cheaper, this is by far the most I have spent on a graphics card, I have bought quite a few over the years back to the Monster 3d add-on cards.

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Low-Blackberry-9065@reddit

You can upgrade just the GPU but some games will still exhibit problems due to the CPU, not that many though.

Ideally you'll also get a better CPU like the 5700X3D.

16GB RAM is still OK, there are a few games that benefit from having more but the vast majority won't have any issue with only 16.

700W is plenty (with new CPU and GPU you'd be under 500W) as long as the PSU is honest.

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jroberts2652@reddit

Just as a pointer, black ops 6 seems to be very ram dependant for me. Have tried with both 16 and 32gbs of ram and there is a noticeable difference between gaining frames and fewer stutters

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jroberts2652@reddit

Late to the party however I was in a similar position. I had a gtx1660s, Ryzen 5 3500x and 16gb of 3200mhz. I upgraded to an rtx4060, and what I’ve found is (subjectively) interesting. The card gives a boost in performance for sure, 1440p became an option for apex / now black ops 6, however there is a MASSIVE CPU bottleneck too. I’m planning to upgrade to a better ryzen 5 /7 as on YouTube you can see how well they work together.

TLDR: if you have the money for a new cpu and gpu you’ll get a huge performance boost. If only gpu, you’ll still get a reasonable boost, but the cpu bottleneck will be very obvious! Hope this helps!

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sweatoncrack@reddit

id recommend starting it all over, in your current condition you should go ddr4, wich in 1440p isn't that good, so if you still wanted to upgrade and go with ddr5 you should change mobo, cpu and probably psu since of newer gpus power draw

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Rare-Trade443@reddit

5600(x or non x) is a great chip if you're on a budget, and you can find them used for sub $100 where I live(California if that matters). Works like a charm with my 6800xt for 1440p(which I also managed to snag from Facebook Marketplace for $280).

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No-Explanation1034@reddit

Cpu/GPU upgrade, and i think you could get a few more yrs out of it. maybe up the ram, too.

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jhaluska@reddit

It's a good time to upgrade. I recommend just upgrading the GPU. If your CPU is still holding you back, upgrade that afterwards.

You can upgrade your system to the point it has all the same components as a new system.

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BeefyBarbarian@reddit

If you’re doing 1440p just upgrade the gpu first. 3600 can handle a stronger gpu if you’re doing a higher resolution . Upgrade to 32gb at some point. If you’re not getting the frames you want, then consider the 5700x3d as the best (for price) upgrade. Cheaper than 5800x3d but similar performance

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Maybe_in_love@reddit

Selling your entire pc is stupid you are wasting the case and power supply, and storage

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AnotherUserOutThere@reddit

The answer to this is simple... If you want to get all new stuff and start over a build from scratch, sell it all. If you want to keep your case, hard drives/SSD and possibly memory (depending on if your new setup can use it) then upgrade your core components (CPU, MB, and GPU and possibly PSU).

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JPSurratt2005@reddit

What brand and model is your motherboard? I know in the past certain B450 boards could have a weak VRM setup and not be able to deliver power to the higher tier CPUs or potentially get excessively hot during use. I'm not sure if the B550 still has that issue.

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6950X_Titan_X_Pascal@reddit

its still very advanced

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Winter_Ad_9289@reddit

5700X3D, 32GB 3200MT/s RAM (if you are on 16GB RAM currently), RTX 4070 Super

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FrequentDemand9886@reddit

Get the 4070 super and then get a 5700x3d. Night and day difference compared to your current setup. I would also recommend upgrading your ram from dual channel 16gb to either a dual channel 32gb, or to get a matching 16gb kit, depending on your motherboard. Especially at 1440p, 32gb ram is necessary.

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wiseude@reddit

If you have to upgrade ram get 32gb minimum.Some games these day eat up 16gb like its nothing which will result in fps issues like stuttering when you hit the limit.

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alialattraqchi@reddit (OP)

Thank you everyone for your helpful insights and info. Truly kind of you :) wish you a good day!!

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kapybarah@reddit

If your target is 60 fps, the 3600 is still good for that. You could just upgrade to a 4070s and use dldsr to downscale from 4k dlls balanced and give the better image quality than native 1440p. That is the most efficient use of funds imo. You won't get a locked 60 but it will largely be a 60fps experience.

However, I'd just throw in a 5700x3d and run at 1440p with dlss quality cuz I prefer a higher fps experience.

You can also always upgrade the CPU later

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Accomplished_Emu_658@reddit

Upgrade. Why? Because you will get pennies on the dollar for what you have. Selling the 3600 and 1660s will net you more individually then they would net you in the whole unit together. Say you can get $125 total for both those parts sold separately, in a pc you would probably get $75 for them plus rest of pc. You will get less over all.

B550 is still solid board with many cpu options that are still great, hell they are dropping new ones still. Bump your ram up to 32gb, buy 5700x3d and 4070s or 7800xt and the thing will fly.

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elgato_max@reddit

If I were you and on a budget, maybe I would upgrade the CPU to Ryzen 5 5600/5600X/5600X3D, add more 16GB of RAM and swap the GPU to RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT so I can enjoy the 1440p gaming without any worry.

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Mopar_63@reddit

Check that the motherboard BIOS can update to the 5xxx series and if so get a 5700X3D, great value upgrade for your system. As for the GPU I would save a little money and get a 7800XT and then use those savings to upgrade the RAM to 32GB.

Now sell your 3600, 1660 and 16gb of RAM to recoup some of the expense.

Will give you a GREAT 1440 gaming experience. Buying a bigger GPU or CPU might give you more FPS but the real world, actually playing, gaming experience will be practically the same.

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