New PC in January, any recommendations/advice on this build?
Posted by botanical_h@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 6 comments
Basically, my current PC is lagging on games like world of warcraft which is ridiculous as it can run on a toaster, so it's time for an upgrade. With that said I have a budget of £1600 give or take, the cheaper the better as I'm a student. I don't particularly do anything extremely demanding; but as an example I've tried to play games like the new diablo, and halo infinity and my PC just couldn't handle it; with that said I'd like a PC that can run new games (I don't really care about graphics being on the highest settings, just no lag), I also make music so a decent CPU is a must (although for the most part, my current one manages unless I use a really heavy VST alongside loads of other plug ins). Just as an example I literally play WoW, hearthstone, SC2, would like to play the new diablo, and I've avoided buying spacemarine 2 because I know I wouldn't be able to run it.
Current PC specs:
AMD ryzen 7 2700
16gb dual channel ddr4 @ 1197
gigabyte B450m DS3H-CF (am4)
2047mb NVIDIA Geforce GTX 960 (msi)
200\~ GB SSD and 1 TB ssd
monitors: LG full HD 1920x1080 75hz
HP 2010 600x900 60 hz
The PC me and a friend came up with consists of:
Corsair 3000D Airflow
ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI - PCIe 5.0, 4x M.2, 2.5G/WiFi 6E, 10x USB-A, 2x USB-C
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Zen 4, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 4.2GHz, 5.0GHz Turbo, 120W
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black - Air Cooler
32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz [Black]
Corsair RM850x, 80PLUS GOLD, Fully Modular, Zero-Fan Mode
1TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe PCIe 4.0, 7450MB/s Read, 6900MB/s Write, 1200K IOPS
16GB ASUS GeForce RTX 4060 Ti DUAL OC, 4352 Cores, 2595MHz Boost, GDDR6, 128 bit, 165W TDP
The total of that is £1738 so it's a little more than i'd want to spend, but that's fine; but with that in mind, I get my next student loan on january 6th, and have a little money coming to me this month; I was thinking of buying the 4060ti this month to put into my current pc, then swap it out when i get my new set up in january - besides the fact I won't get the full performance from the card due to bottle necking, is there any other reason i shouldn't do this? (my friend said wait til jan as there will be newer cards out, so i might get it a little cheaper; but that might not be the case) - i also need to check my current PSU can handle it but i'll do that later...
I understand for what I want this PC is a little overkill, but at the same time I want it to last me a good 5-6 years+ if possible; but if I can still do that and get this cheaper, that would be a bonus!
Any advice appreciated! thank you :D
SagittaryX@reddit
A different option to consider is perhaps upgrading your current system, can make quite a fast modern gaming machine for cheap with reusing the motherboard.
The parts you selected for a new build are imo quite oddly chosen, very expensive motherboard, cooler, much stronger CPU than you need.
I'd probably do this instead: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hH4CmC (including a new monitor, better GPU, for less money)
If you want to reuse some of your old parts and be cheap, also this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/c44CmC (just remember to update motherboard BIOS)
botanical_h@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the advice, I think I want to avoid updating my current one for a few reasons, I'll be able to give the old one to my gf (whilst it lags and doesn't run modern games, she can use it for every day use/I'll try get her into wow lol; if she bites, maybe she could upgrade the gfx card for herself), secondly if I'm dropping £900 on upgrading it, in my eyes I may as well spend the other £5-600 on newer parts, then maybe if I ever wanted to, upgrade that in the future (basically future proof the new pc as much as possible, unless that sounds stupid? - I'm out of the loop with PCs now, go back 10-15 years and I would have a clue 🤣)
I like the PC you suggested otherwise, a new monitor is appealing also, my secondary HP monitor is so old now, I need to look at some benchmarks, but will I notice the difference between the graphics card you suggested, and the 4060ti if I'm not doing anything massively demanding, or is it more of a I may as well spend the tiny bit extra? And the same with the CPU, I need to check it out properly, but it's considerably cheaper than the one my friend suggested, so I'm guessing performance wise it's much worse or?
Also with the CPU fan, my friend is adamant that I get the noctua nh-d15... I said it sounds excessive spending £100 on a bloody fan 🤣🤣 anyway thanks again, I'll do some more research when I'm not trying to sleep!
SagittaryX@reddit
It’s more that the 4060 Ti isn’t a very good deal price performance wise. I’d look at the AMD alternatives if you wanted a cheaper GPU, 7700 XT or 7800 XT.
You absolutely don’t need a D15 cooler, the Thermalright cooler I included is pretty much just as good for less than half the price. You can tell your friend to check out the GamersNexus review of the Peerless Assassin to get an idea of it.
botanical_h@reddit (OP)
What do you make of this?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CGQnTM
Taking both yours and my friends advice into account.
Gone with a 7700x, so in-between the one you and my friend suggested both in price and performance, the 4070 12gb super... I've kept the mobo the same as i can't get the one you suggested on the scan bundle, and gone for a slightly cheaper & smaller noctua fan (again the phantom isn't on the scan bundle. I've also added a 1440p monitor.
Also a side note, it's almost £200 cheaper if I buy from Amazon, even moreso if I get the phantom fan & mobo you suggested, but 3 of my friends are saying only buy from scan with one insisting they build it (I've always built my own PCs with ease (although I don't have any anti static equipment etc and I've never built a pc this expensive)
Either way I think I'll go with the 4070s, and buy that this month, and the rest of the pc in January
Thanks for the help!
SagittaryX@reddit
Aside from the motherboard and CPU cooler that list looks fine, expensive ITX mobo for a ATX system is really odd though. SSD is somewhat overpriced as well but sure if you want the best C drive around, even if the difference isn't that noticeable. Also currently the monitor I recommended is only 10 pound more than what you have in your list here, for that small price increase it's definitely much more well rounded, though yours is also fine. Also if you want to save money I'd definitely still consider the 7600X or 9600X, the six core performs almost as well as the 8 core for gaming, but the 7700X also works well of course.
Not sure about the SCAN thing as I'm not UK, but I'd assume it's a build service they operate and charge extra for. If you're confident you can build it yourself and have before I don't see a need for it.
botanical_h@reddit (OP)
I didn't even notice the thing with the case, thanks! I guess another good thing about going through scan is that they give you a 3 year warranty on the whole thing which is pretty decent, I'll pick the monitor you mentioned also and check out the mentioned CPUs, I kinda wanted a higher power CPU because of the music making, whilst I know I could manage as I manage on my current CPU, I'd like to push the boat out so I wouldn't have to cut corners on production (i.e. I have to turn off plugins to record and stuff like that, to lower the latency) but I'll check them out!
In terms of buying the PSU this month with the gfx; my current PSU is 700w, and I checked on part picker and it would be compatible with my system with the gfx upgrade, should I still do it or nah?
Also I'm going to keep the old CPU, but buy a 3050, 32gb 3200 ddr4 ram and get a new SSD so my gf can use my old one and play some games, sound good?