The order matters: it's blinker THEN brakes.

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TotalWeb2893@reddit

Yep. Also, if you’re in the left lane, people will know you’re not there to be a left lane camper, unless you’ve been in it for miles.

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stevegee58@reddit

The "super easy adjustment" is to start following at a greater distance so unexpected slowdowns don't surprise you. Blinkers are superfluous.

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Dustyolman@reddit

Best kept secret in the automotive industry. That little stick on the left side of the steering column.

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Dustyolman@reddit

And move into the turning lane BEFORE applying the brakes!

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s1lentchaos@reddit

True, but better late than never, nothing like waiting behind some idiot who suddenly stopped to make a turn without their blinker

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that's at least half the drivers in the bay. my other (of many) pet peeves? when you're waiting to exit, see a car coming your way, they slow down, you see them slowing down, then they proceed to turn where you're exiting and never signal. it takes half a second to move the damn stalk with a finger...

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Notabizarreusername@reddit

Even if they have a turn signal on you shouldn't go until it's very obvious they are making that turn. Never know if it's the next entrance or corner they intend to turn at.

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lolreddit0r@reddit

You can usually tell when they cut their speed and/or when their nose dips

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_B_e_c_k_@reddit

No, late isn't better than never. Late means someone might try to pass you legally and then you might turn into them. Please be a good driver, lots of people die due to this kind of logic.

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s1lentchaos@reddit

You'd rather they just commit to not using blinkers?

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FoaRyan@reddit

If you're going to do something, do it all the way lol. Signaling after beginning to turn is more offensive to me than a middle finger in my face.

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_B_e_c_k_@reddit

Obviously I want people to drive correct and follow the laws so it's safer for everyone. You really can't figure that out?

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jobutupaki1@reddit

My thoughts as well. Sometimes you never know until they complete a turn.

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Alex_Masterson13@reddit

I almost always honk at those idiots.

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claurbor@reddit

MSM in the UK. Mirror-Signal-Manoeuvre was what I was taught, with manoeuvre being braking turning changing lane etc.

In practice it depends. Delay your blinker if you are passing a turn before yours. You do not want to mislead someone waiting at that turn into believing they can go in front of you. Allowing for this and making your then may require braking before signal. Indicating/Signalling in a place that can cause confusion can get you marked down in a UK test.

Interestingly, the California Driver’s Handbook switches the mirror and signal, listing the order as Signal, Mirror and other visual checks, then manoeuvre.

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Beautiful-Owl-3216@reddit

Different parts of the US use blinkers in different ways and for different reasons.

In most of the developed world and in the northeast, blinkers are used as you say. As a warning that the vehicle is going to change lanes.

Other parts of the country use the blinker as a way to ask permission to change lanes like in the Midwest when they stop at yield signs.

In the southwest desert, the blinker isn't used for turning at all. It is used to signal that there are no oncoming vehichles and it is save to overtake on the left.

In Miami and South Florida you shouldn't use blinkers at all because it is considered rude to cut in front of people and it's more courteous to surprise other drivers like when they are checking their phones, etc..

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h3dr0ncr4b@reddit

As someone born and raised in the southwest desert, 1: nobody uses blinkers. 2: when they do, it's to indicate intentions to turn or change lanes. Wherever you got that info was false.

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CafeTeo@reddit

I had 5 drivers in the space of 5 minutes of driving all slow on a 45mph road for a turn all to only put on their turn signal AS they began to turn.

Considering I have not seen ANYONE but myself stop at a stop sign in 30 days. Yeah this tracks.

Oh and O got honked at 3 times this month for stopping at a stop sign WTF!?!

And 2 of them raged at me.

And these were quick stops. I slowed carefully, knowing NO ONE stops at stop signs. Stopped did a quick check and moved ASAP. And still got honked at.

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BrassHockey@reddit

Depends on how closely I'm being tailgated.

Kidding... Sort of. It's a move I would pull when another driver annoyed me. I've since endeavored to treat that as passive aggressive escalation and I refrain from trying to button push like that.

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Nick_OS_@reddit

My rule of thumb is. 1 blink per 10min before braking (you should know your blinker speed)

So if you’re going 50mph. Try again for 5 blinks before braking

10mph: >=1 blink before braking

20mph: >= 2 blinks

30 mph: >= 3 blinks

…

70mph: >= 7 blinks

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JOliverScott@reddit

Not disagreeing at all but as a counter perspective people following rarely heed the tirn signal indicator anyways. Trucks with trailers often have to buttonhook to clear a corner and in the few seconds that they counter steer away from the corner some idiot will try to dart inside the gap and then get caught inside the turning radius of the trailer THEN try to tell the cops they are the victim when in reality they weren't even paying attention and failed to notice the multitude of blinkers.

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nounge2scrounge@reddit

I wonder what these people think the signal is even for. Using it after you've already started slowing down is negligent and using it when you're alreadly turning is just straight-up pointless. It's literal NPC shit, like they just know that signals and turning go together "because it's the rules" but the reasoning completely escapes them. These are people who should not be driving.

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osrsirom@reddit

As it turns out, a great many people are disappointingly dumb. I hate sharing a road system with them more than nearly everything else.

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DunkinRadio@reddit

Even worse is to turn on the blinker half way through the turn.

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MET90LX@reddit

Even worser is people who almost stop before getting in the turn lane. Like the turn lane exists for a reason. Get in the turn lane first then brake. At that point I don’t really care if you signal or not. Just don’t impede traffic. Or people who half assed get in the turn lane leaving half their car still in the through lane. I get it some turn lanes are short and some vehicles are very large. I’m not talking about those. That’s unavoidable. I’m talking about the Toyota Yaris that has a 400’ empty turn lane that will slam on the brakes and almost stop before going in the turn lane. Sorry for the rant. Just that shit happens all the time to me.

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ShoddyAsparagus3186@reddit

Not exactly what you're talking about, but there's a turn lane near me that consistently has people turning across it instead of into it. This means that when they get halfway through the turn and find that they have to wait for traffic, they're still in the lane they started from.

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MET90LX@reddit

I will admit when I’m driving a bus and turning left onto a Main Street from a side street and it’s busy I’ll inch out until traffic stops. I’m sure it’s annoying to other drivers. But I got a schedule to keep.

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

It’s blinker first, only then brake if you really have to and THEN get into the turn lane. After you’re in the turn lane, the blinker is almost unnecessary at that point.

Sure sign of someone who is completely clueless about using a blinker, is a driver who only turns it on AFTER getting into the turn only lane

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Key-Ad-1873@reddit

After you’re in the turn lane, the blinker is almost unnecessary at that point.

Untrue, I see people not turn properly in turn only lanes daily (using the lane to jump ahead of traffic and go straight, think it just continues and almost hit a curb, etc). Even in a turn only lane, the blinker is still necessary precisely because people don't bother to follow the laws and the police don't enforce these things when it happens in front of them

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

I turn mine off. It’s impossible to go straight from a turn only lane. If you tried, you would run into on coming traffic or a concrete barrier. You need to turn on the opposite turn signal to leave the turn lane if you change your mind and want to go straight.

Again, if you think you need to leave your turn signal on in the turn lane then you just don’t understand how to use a turn signal

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Key-Ad-1873@reddit

If it's impossible then why do I see it happen every single day (I'm not exaggerating). People use the turn only lanes to jump the line in straight lanes all the time, to get ahead of traffic. They never use any turn signal for it. It's because of that and other stuff people do in turn lanes that they are not supposed to (and that is also illegal) that I say you still need the turn signal in the turn only lane. Without it, I'm assuming you're gonna pull some crap and risk my life, because like it or not it happens far too often (not specifically to me but in my visual range, meaning it happens more often on a larger scale)

I understand where you are coming from. You SHOULDN'T have to. However, with the way I see people drive all the time, and how they misuse the turn signals or don't use them at all, I feel it's necessary, plus I'd rather err on the side of caution and use my turn signal too much than not enough.

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

If you’re in the left turn lane and want to go straight, then you need to turn on your right turn signal to move one lane to the right and then go straight. Me having my left turn signal in the left turn lane doesn’t fix this.

It’s like telling me that I need to leave my right turn signal on when driving in the right lane down the highway because some people might change lanes to the left without using a turn signal. No

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Key-Ad-1873@reddit

That's not how people do it in the real world man that's what I'm trying to say. What I see happen all the time is this:

Light is red, small line of traffic, cross traffic turns yellow, someone from the back goes into the turn lane and accelerates. Straight lane light turns green and the guy in the turn lane doesn't stop for his red light, he instead gets in front of everyone and changes back to the straight lane in the intersection of merges back in the front of the line in a gap. No signal used during any of it, breaking multiple laws.

This is only one example of the stuff being done on a daily basis, of the turn lane being used improperly. People do this crap all the time. So yes when you're in the turn I feel you still need a turn signal because just because you're in the turn lane doesn't mean you're actually going to turn. Legally, yes you are required. Realistically, about 1 in 10-20 people I see do something that makes me question if the rest of the people are actually going to turn.

As for your example of the highway, it's not at all like that. Leaving your turn signal on when you have no intention to turn would be stupid, though I've seen that once a week or two. And people do change lanes without a signal, all the time. You can't count on them to use their signal anymore, because about half of them just don't

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whereverYouGoThereUR@reddit

Your line of thinking represents the ignorance of how to use a turn signal. You just don’t understand that people leaving the left turn lane are not going straight but moving one lane to the right so should be using their right turn signal. No turn signal means I’m staying in my lane. You’re the problem

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Key-Ad-1873@reddit

I'm the problem? Buddy I'm just telling what I see happen every day, not that I do it. I agree with you that it is changing a lane to the right and a signal SHOULD be used, but what I am saying is that DONT use the turn signal when they should. Half the people I see never use the turn signal to indicate a lane change anymore and you're saying I'm the problem for simply trying to point that out??? I never disagreed with you that people shouldnt need a turn signal in a turn only lane IF people followed the traffic laws and used the turn signal appropriately. BUT THEY DONT. That's what I'm saying, in your fictional world where people do things the right way, you are correct that's it's not necessary, in the real world where people do unexpected things ALL THE TIME, the turn signal is needed for more than it should be needed.

Ik how to use a turn signal properly dude, I'm not arguing that I'm saying that's not how the real world works and you assuming that people drive like that (only ever obeying traffic laws and using the turn signal appropriately) is woefully ignorant of the current driving standard in the u.s.

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Attarker@reddit

And the opposite annoys me. The people who use the turn lane as a merge lane. Cruising along at 40 mph down the turn lane for a quarter mile to merge making it dangerous for anyone else who wants to use that lane.

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MET90LX@reddit

Here in Cleveland the turn lanes and bike lanes are just bonus lanes.

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MET90LX@reddit

Here in Cleveland the turn lanes and bike lanes are just bonus lanes.

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Humungus_Honkers0113@reddit

I was turning left onto a main road, and someone on the main road was turning left onto my road. They didn’t indicate until they were halfway through the turn and I had already started to inch forward because I thought they were just slowing down not turning. Then they blared their horn and yelled watch where you’re going while they drove by lmfao.

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RevolutionNo4186@reddit

I’ve seen people use blinkers after they already finished their merge/turn

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WDFKY@reddit

Or only after the light turns green. 😤

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NotHumanButIPlayOne@reddit

I've literally seen people use their indicator after completing a turn. The other day I had a woman in a white Chelsea tractor indicate right and exit left off the roundabout. People everywhere are useless tools.

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misterfuss@reddit

Even worser (i know it’s not a word) is when someone in front of you turns on their left turn signal when the light turns green. Grrr. I could have chosen the longer line if right lane traffic if you signaled that you were turning left as you approached the intersection.

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007-Blond@reddit

i fucking hate when people get into a left turn lane and THEN turn their blinker on. Like no shit you're turning left smh

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CareApart504@reddit

Dont you love seeing them almost all the way over and then their blinker pops once and then is immediately off?

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theFooMart@reddit

I agree 110%. I get it of you're too lazy or dumb to use your signal light at all. But signalling when you're already halfway in the other lane, or through your turn is just dumb. Like why even bother at that point?

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ThePocketPanda13@reddit

I'm sorry but I don't get it if you're too lazy to signal. If you're too lazy to signal you're too lazy to drive get off the road.

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Geno_Warlord@reddit

Most likely they have their fingers outstretched so that they flick the blinker as they’re making the turn. It serves 3 purposes; one, it’s to cut back on the effort needed, two, it’s so they get the correct signal for the direction they are turning, and three, it’s some feature of the car to attempt the signal because you forgot.

All are extreme examples of laziness and incompetence and why these people shouldn’t be behind a giant murder machine.

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Geno_Warlord@reddit

God, what was that game that takes place with those old cars? It was some mafia game I think that had quite a bit of driving in it. The cars you’d drive ALWAYS did exactly that and it always pissed me off.

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Lego-Under-Foot@reddit

The name of the game is literally just Mafia

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Geno_Warlord@reddit

lol, that was probably it. Been a long time since I played it. I just remembered that about the game.

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angelblood18@reddit

I’d share this to my local subreddit if i knew i wouldn’t get absolutely flamed and told that i need to stop driving so aggressively 🤪

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

What about this could even remotely be considered aggressive?

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angelblood18@reddit

“Not following far enough behind so it doesn’t matter” People in my city think that if you’re not following 2-3 car lengths behind, you’re the problem, even in heavy, slow traffic 🤯

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N0tInKansasAnym0r3@reddit

That's really dumb. 3 car lengths at 70mph is different than 3 car lengths at 30mph.

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WDFKY@reddit

Actually, 3 car lengths are the same at any speed. But if you want to talk "safe distance" a/k/a the "2-second rule," I'm with ya.

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N0tInKansasAnym0r3@reddit

Lmao thanks for being able to interpret my poorly worded comment

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angelblood18@reddit

Totally agreed!

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tickyul@reddit

They are both signals, they only have an irritating-impact if you are following too close.

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DifficultyWorldly502@reddit

People seem to misunderstand the purpose of blinkers. Its to let people know that you are about to make a turn or about to change a lane, keyword “about”. Not while you are turning or once you are in the turning lane cuz then there’s no point.

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iliveoffofbagels@reddit

Additionally, if you have indicators that look like brake lights, maybe understand that the person in the lane next to you might have no idea you are changing lanes and you should be extra cautious versus a person with actual proper amber indicators

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WDFKY@reddit

Hell yeah to the amber.

And is it just me, or is the relocation of turn signals - away from the main tail-light cluster - a poor design choice?

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i_liek_trainsss@reddit

Amen to that. It's possibly my biggest pet peeve on the road.

I'll be driving along the right lane of a three-lane boulevard minding my own business, and the driver in front of me slows down, and slows down some more, and then some more. And then finally when he's traveling at an excruciating 4 MPH he throws his blinker on a fraction of a second before making a right turn....

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MaskedFigurewho@reddit

Are you telling me people break and than put on thier blinkers as a regular rule? I don't think I ever witnessed this

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onelonecheezit@reddit

There’s a certain demographic that are notorious for that and other terrible driving practices 🙄😅

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Key-Ad-1873@reddit

Never found this to be a problem, but then again I don't tailgate or generally have to rush to be on time, and I actually pay attention to the road and surroundings when driving (based on the other people I see, at least 2/3rds of the population can't say the same)

Just takes a bit of situational awareness to know if turns are coming up and if the person might or might not be slowing down to turn or not, whether or not they use their blinker is kinda pointless to worry about in my mind.

What is ACTUALLY infuriating, is when people are trying to find a road, and slow down and/or drive well under the speed limit to find where they need to go. They gps will tell you where to go and will reroute if you miss it. It's not the end of the world to miss a turn, there will be another, so you don't have to drive 15 under and slow down to 20 at every turn off a mile

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Odd_Drop5561@reddit

It depends on the situation, if I'm approaching a corner and there's someone waiting to pull out of the gas station, I won't turn on my turn signal until after I pass the gas station driveway even as I brake for the corner because I don't want the guy waiting to pull out to think that my signal is on because I'm turning into the gas station.

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TReid1996@reddit

That's what you're supposed to do. You're always supposed to turn on blinker before your actual turn, but after any other potential turns in that direction.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

That’s entirely fair.

There are always going to be exceptions to blanket rules. Yours is a good example.

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p0gop0pe@reddit

You really can’t fix stupid

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trowdatawhey@reddit

No. It’s gas, break, dip

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Pristine_Paper_9095@reddit

This is one of those things on the road there’s just NO excuses for whatsoever. It’s sheer laziness and disregard for other people. I too see this numerous times per day and just don’t understand how one can be so incompetent.

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kgxv@reddit

People don’t seem to realize that a signal is for signaling what you’re about to do, not what you’re already doing.

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fitfulbrain@reddit

Absolutely wrong. You don't know need a reason to slow down. When you are at the back, you react to the brake light at the front car. You don't second guess the front driver like you have super driving power

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themcsame@reddit

Yes. But sometimes no.

First priority is making sure your intentions are clear. There will be some scenarios where using your blinker before your braking point leads to a signal that could be misinterpreted by others, which also causes issues. It's not as big of an issue as what you're describing, but it's there and will be used against you by insurance when settling fault.

As is always with the case, the ACTUAL answer is access the situation and do what provides the CLEAREST message.

If you brake and flick your blinker on half way through a turn, you're a cunt.

If you brake and flick your blinker on late because you're pulling into your driveway which is shortly after a turning on that same side of the road? Anyone getting mad is short a few brain cells if they can't understand why a potentially misleading signal is a far greater problem.

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funkcatbrown@reddit

I use my blinkers always but rarely see others do it. Do people even use blinkers any more? But I agree with ya 100 percent OP. This is the way. And for God’s sake please use your blinkers people.

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odoyledrools@reddit

I know that I use my horn a lot more to indicate to people not using their blinkers that they fucked up.

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funkcatbrown@reddit

lol I’ve never done that. But you tell ‘em! Bastards. I am not afraid to use my horn if appropriate though. And it’s so weird how people will freak out they got honked at. Sheesh.

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odoyledrools@reddit

I feel that it is perfectly appropriate to honk at people for not using turn signals. If enough people shame them for it then maybe most people will start realizing that the turn signal isn't just for decoration anymore. I will admit that I am not the most patient driver but at least I try to follow all of the rules of the road. Getting honked at pisses off a lot of people but that's the whole point.

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Zealousideal_Rent261@reddit

How about the folks who put their blinker on 3 streets before the one they intend to turn onto.

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PrudentPair6961@reddit

Late blinker is better than no blinker but agree it is frustrating they brake and then turn it on.

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MajorApartment179@reddit

Drivers should be more focused on what's in front of them than what's behind them.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with my post?

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N0tInKansasAnym0r3@reddit

I'll make 1 disagreement. I agree with you on blinkers before brakes except when traveling downhill on a slope that's increasing your speed or uphill that will reduce your speed so much that you barely have to use brakes. Because you're already on your brakes going downhill and are going to brake later going uphill.

It should technically be "blinkers before intentionally making a change to your speed." But that's just me being petty lmao and it over complicates things for people who already fuck it up because they can't handle the basics of driving.

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MajorApartment179@reddit

My comment was kind of pointless actually. I think I agree with your post.

It's just I used to focus my attention on the cars behind me and I think it made me a less safe driver.

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MaccyBoiLaren@reddit

In the same vein, get into the turn lane, THEN brake. My sister always slowed down to 15-20 mph before getting into her turn lane, took forever to get her to do it the other way around. Felt bad for the folks behind us that had to slow way down, too.

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Ok-Satisfaction3085@reddit

Oh this, it’s a pet peeve of mine.

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brinazee@reddit

Obviously when possible. The center turn lane to get into my neighborhood is 3 car lengths long with 45 mph traffic, so I have to brake early. I feel bad for those people just wanting to use the road as a through road because the left lane both directions is people getting into short turn lanes to get into their neighborhoods. You can get over early because then you end up with incoming traffic wanting to make their own turns.

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MaccyBoiLaren@reddit

When possible, yes. Obviously it's unavoidable sometimes, but even tight situations can be navigated with minimal disruption if you're comfortable with yourself and your vehicle.

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broionevenknowhow@reddit

And more importantly if people have a proper following distance

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CT-1738@reddit

This is why maintaining good following distances is so important. Some braking or emergencies is expected. If you give yourself enough time behind someone it’s not a huge inconvenience or safety issue to also slow down.

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primalanomaly@reddit

I don’t know if this is just a British thing, but “mirror, signal, manoeuvre” is like the core fundamental sequence we’re taught to remember. Not that many people seem to do this in practice, but everyone knows the phrase. 100% you should check your surroundings and then signal before slowing down for a turning.

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NeonDystopian@reddit

It's okay, I'm sure they will stop doing it whenever they end up getting some of their family and children killed because they pulled something like that in front of a CMV that was too heavy to stop.

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Boring-Gas-8903@reddit

And brake lights are not a substitute for a turn signal

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Sugar_titties9000@reddit

Lmao no, its blinker and then speed up!

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Beginning_Hornet4126@reddit

I get it, and yes people should use their blinker properly ... but who passes unsafely as soon as you touch your brakes without a blinker? I mean, if it's a multilane road, they are going to pass you with or without the blinker because it is not unsafe. But you make it seem that if I touch my brakes without a blinker, they guy behind me is going to dart out into oncoming traffic to pass me.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

I’m thinking more like someone who’s driving in a residential area with unmarked roads and wants to turn left. They come to a near stop because the turn is tight (and they’re overly cautious), but they don’t signal.

The driver behind them has no idea if they’re going to turn, if they’re stopping to talk to someone walking down the sidewalk, or if they’re lost. They very well may come to the conclusion that it’s one of the second two and try to go around them.

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TheKillerhammer@reddit

If they try to go around their just plain idiots and deserve whatever happens to then

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taratarabobara@reddit

This is bizarre. You signal when you need to signal. You brake when you need to brake. If you are passing several turns before the one you take, you may need to delay your signal to make your intentions clear.

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xcuteikinz@reddit

THATS WHAT I'M SAYING cuz if you have your blinker on too long then people are just as confused

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taratarabobara@reddit

Yeah exactly! If you’re to the point where you’re moving in a lane in preparation for a turn (like hugging the right curb for a right turn) then obviously you should have your signal on by then. If it’s unambiguous what turn you will be taking, signal whatever. But it’s not some kind of slight to drivers behind you to brake before you signal. This is some next-level wtf-ness.

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LameBMX@reddit

cut 'em some slack. their blinker fluid was low so it took a moment for them to start working.

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online_jesus_fukers@reddit

Never use it...otherwise it tells your fbi guy where you're going and makes it harder to shake the tail

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xcuteikinz@reddit

But what if they think you're going down a different street? Because your blinkers are on as soon as you start to slow down? Do you know what I'm trying to say?

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Delicious-Badger-906@reddit

On the other hand, no matter someone's reason for slowing down, you should be following at a safe distance to also slow down. And you should be going at a safe speed to take whatever reactive measures necessary.

The person could be slowing down because there's a traffic jam ahead that you might not be able to see. There could be an object in the road. They could have a flat tire or other mechanical issue.

No matter the reason, you should be ready to slow down.

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XavierLeaguePM@reddit

I agree with you but the issue is that what does “safe distance” mean? Is it the same regardless of type of road or speed limit? I guess not.

My anecdotal data - OPs scenario happened to me at least 5 times today. You might say I wasn’t traveling at a safe distance but I know I was. For the road conditions and speed limit, my safe distance was about 1.5 to 2 car lengths. Yet each time, the driver ahead of me would randomly/abruptly slow down and turn right. Without using their blinkers. Or using my it as they were turning. I do slow down safely to avoid any issues but it’s frustrating without any notice whatsoever. Also puts me at risk of being rear ended because everyone tailgates in MA.

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Delicious-Badger-906@reddit

Usually three seconds. But generally, far enough that you can react to sudden slowdowns or unexpected problems.

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Scienceheaded-1215@reddit

Agreed! When I was in driver’s ed, they taught us it was to SIGNAL YOUR INTENT.

I don’t know why this is a foreign concept to some. Why would you signal an intention when you’re already doing the action dumb ass?

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letsgotime@reddit

I am like why are they slowing down, oha they are turning.

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City_Girl_at_heart@reddit

I find it safer to tap the brake pedal enough to show the brake lights, then signal, then brake if turning.

If I'm just pulling out to overtake, I'll signal and overtake when it's safe to do so.

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tweisse75@reddit

This annoys when the blinkers are the same lights as the brakes.

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City_Girl_at_heart@reddit

My blinkers work on the side I put them in to turn for. My brake lights work both sides and above my rear window at the same time.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

Why not just signal before you brake to let people know why you’re braking?

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City_Girl_at_heart@reddit

I do, I just tap the brakes before that to warn I'm about to slow down.

As I wrote, signalling can mean you're overtaking.

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Alex_Masterson13@reddit

Yes, you are supposed to turn on the signal before you start braking or change lanes, but there are so many asshole drivers out there now, that signaling at the same time you start braking or changing lanes is the only way to avoid getting cut off.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

If they’re in the lane you’re trying to enter, they can’t cut you off. You need to yield to them.

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Alex_Masterson13@reddit

LOL You have obviously never experienced all the assholes who will try and cut you off from merging over because you were nice and signaled first.

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

Again, they’re not cutting you off. Is it mildly impolite for them to block your lane change? Sure. But are you still required to yield to them? Absolutely.

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Notabizarreusername@reddit

So after several people see your signal and block you from moving over, what then? You'll find yourself pulling a surprise lane change when the next gap opens up as well.

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blindtig3r@reddit

Mirror, signal, brake. I had it drummed into me when I was learning.

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MoonWillow91@reddit

I mean they’ll probably go around anyway, but blinker before brakes and/or decelerating gives ppl more time to grasp the situation and check surroundings to make a choice. It’s super considerate and should be done as much as ppl can.

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Error8Shit@reddit

Haha, thought it was a request at a repair shop...

[And in a specific manor nor by a fLikc..

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ohmyback1@reddit

I was following some idiot panel truck that didn't bother with either, just went really slow, then turned. Thanks

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CoasterScrappy@reddit

Clutch-in, downshift, signal, brake, downshift as needed.

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Outlaw11091@reddit

I met a lady from Paris, Texas, who confidently claimed everyone in her town used their turn signals always.

I had dash cam footage that immediately proved her wrong.

Not one person on this Earth can legitimately make that claim.

Until we can confidently say that most drivers use their blinkers, let's not confuse them by adding in complexity and nuance.

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KrevinHLocke@reddit

Your car has blinkers?

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mike-manley@reddit

I mean they should. Unless you've got like a early 20th century Packard or something.

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Microman-MCU@reddit

People seem incapable of signalling their INTENTION to turn up ahead like in ADVANCE of their turn giving lots of warning behind.

I believe these people think you are not cool if your blinker clicks more than 3 times

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Unusual-Thing-7149@reddit

The way I learned it was MSM. Mirrors, signal, maneuver.

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untoastedbrioche@reddit

instructions unclear. decided to not use a blinker at all.

people don't know how to drive though. just yesterday I witnessed a uturn in front of a no uturn sign.

how many times do people incorrectly turn? more often than not. took the test this month and there's a question with an illustration that shows turning left onto a 4 lane road 2 each way.

which do you turn to? the left lane or right lane?

answer is the left lane, closest to you. theoretically 2 people could turn at once but nope. whichever lane people wanna use they use. tbh we need more cops for more tickets.

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glm409@reddit

Exactly. Let me know what you are going to do, not what you are currently doing.

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ChoiceNight7377@reddit

No it doesn't matter that much. If you're using your blinkers at all, you're better than 99% of drivers

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

What about this post reads as “unhinged” to you?

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grafixwiz@reddit

I think the person that never uses their blinker has just identified themselves 😂

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SeawardFriend@reddit

Ngl I’m guilty of signaling too late. I’m getting better at it but sometimes it just feels so awkward to have it on for like 10 seconds before the turn

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LexiusCoda@reddit

Whoa slow down. We're still trying to figure out what blinkers are

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wassdfffvgggh@reddit

Depends on why you are breaking...

If you need to pull over or something, then totally agree.

But if the car in front of you suddenly stops and you need to brake asap to avoid a crash... Please hit the brakes first and then the blinkers

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appa-ate-momo@reddit (OP)

I’m talking more about someone turning off a main road or changing lanes. You should always be signaling your intent before you begin the maneuver.

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wassdfffvgggh@reddit

Yes in that case yeah.

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TucsonNaturist@reddit

I hear blinker fluid is getting expensive. maybe that’s why they minimize using it. 😢

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trixicat64@reddit

Yeah, but also keep your distance. I had it multiple times, where i had to brake, because the fucking car in front of me was turning.

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CawlinAlcarz@reddit

Heh... I like this take. I have the same beef. For some drivers, it's almost like turning on the indicator unlocks their steering wheel, allowing it to turn. So they put on their indicator the instant they start turning the wheel... I suppose I should feel grateful that at least they used the indicator unlike about 30% of drivers out there.

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